Arbitration Coming
There was some sort of an "offer" from the City regarding the Contract yesterday. We don't have the specifics yet, but it's as horrible as you can imagine and pretty much a slap in the face to a Department that has been worked to exhaustion this year, and shit on for three.
Rumor is 10% for four years (meaning it's almost expired) and back-loaded to minimize retro pay. Also, the gutting of disciplinary protections across the board.
The FOP is correctly outraged and disappointed. Expect more info shortly.
Rumor is 10% for four years (meaning it's almost expired) and back-loaded to minimize retro pay. Also, the gutting of disciplinary protections across the board.
The FOP is correctly outraged and disappointed. Expect more info shortly.
Labels: contract stuff, FOP, rumors
posted by SCC at 7:01 AM
158 Comments:
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This Mayor is disgusting. Just had my morning coffee now I have to take a Lori!
Don’t let them off the hook on retro!! That’s what this troll wants. Make it hurt and demand the retro. Don’t give up anything without a fight
I told you Arbitration was a big mistake better off working under current contract with disciplinary protections!
Let's arbitrate! While you guys worry about the contract I'm going to stop a dozen cars, get into a foot/car chase, write 3 anov's, and 3 pci's. That's on a rainy day. I don't need my 30 either...
Yet coppers are still out there doing proactive work! You people out there doing stops and chasing people need to have your head examined along with a spine, backbone, and testicle check.
Well if it is the same pay structure as CFD, it isn’t backloaded.
It is equal throughout. We shouldn’t get anything worst them they do on pay
What's crazy aout this contract are the 2021 one-thousand homicide numbers.
That's crazy mofo.
Do not give up any disciplinary issues .
Push back for all two man cars 24/7 .
Triple time for cancelled days off .
Arbitration is the only way to go.
Unreal. And yet you still have guys trying to save the world out there and bragging about all the guns they get. When will they finally understand the city wants your head on a silver platter. The proactive work isn’t worth it.
Can we rent out one the scumbag BLaMtifa doxers to get dirt on the arbitration judge?
Arbitration coming..... if I had a dollar for every time I heard that.
Given the rate of inflation; that’s a minimum loss of -2% in pay. (Supposedly the rate is +3 percent). And you can be fucked with further disciplinary actions.
But you know atleast 51% of the guys on the jobs would take this offer like yesterday
I like so many others are sick and tired of this cities fucking shenanigans and lack of professionalism. Under 10 years and seeking alternate employment. F.U.L.L.
10%!!!! We should demand what the teachers got, 16%!!!! We are still working while they are out protesting or sitting at home doing nothing. Bullshit.
Anybody see this jem? Got to love the Associated Press. It's not a real story without race involved!
"Police eventually used tear gas early Monday to disperse hundreds of protesters who took to the streets of the diverse city of 59,000 people in the heart of Pennsylvania Amish country following the shooting death of Ricardo Munoz on Sunday afternoon. (The Associated Press corrected this story to remove references to Munoz being Black. Authorities have not identified his race.)"
Just take what the commie teachers got. Good for the goose, good for the gander! Fuck the CTU
So then expect what fire and sgts received when it goes to arbitration. This mayor is a straight up piece of shit! No other way to describe her. She needs to step down. Nobody wants her.
END RESIDENCY NOW. Forty miles from the city limits any direction. If I can live in Hegewisch and work at O'Hare, you have no valid argument against me.
In the meantime summer mobile heroes stopping people left and right like there is no tomorrow so the can stay in the “unit”. They will use you to the max, bosses will get promoted you all of you will be send back to you districts. Stay fetal my friends.
I heard the same thing but also heard there was talk of a $500 per year bonus in lieu of a better raise. The bonus would not compound with future raises so while we would get more money it would not obligate the city to anything down the road.
Your going to have to accept whatever they put out there. Then take them to court over residency. You will win that. But your screwed unless you want to keep working under the old contract and wait until she is out of office. Or sue for residency now and use that for better contract leverage. They do not want to lose the residency hammer.
AngryToad Larri LightFührer has her wishlist and then flip-flopped?
It’s an insulting low ball and shredding, almost to the point that Larri has shopped and found an arbiter already to side with the City. The CPS contract was mostly decided under Rahm’s people, I wonder what potion of FOP was agreed upon years ago and now withheld altogether by Larri?
The best Contract will be the current form. 3 more years of Larri and it will NOT bend.
Re-Imagined Policing
Stay More Fetal
Fire got 10% for 4 years with 7.5% in first 3 years, but 1 for year 1. The raises are compounding so it’s important that the early years are at least 2% or more.
Bottom line, going to arbitration is going to add another year to take us into year 5. The arbitration process, in my opinion, is corrupt and there is no way to convince me the arbitrator isn’t bought and paid for by the city. It much cheaper to give a suitcase of 1 million dollars to the person making the decisions than it is to pay 10’s to 100’s of million to the whole department.
I figure you probably don't have the right to strike. You should fight for the right to withhold work due to unsafe working conditions. Too many 12 hr days, too many attacks/ambushes on cops, and idk what else exactly but it sounds like Chi has a ton. Is the City breaking your current contract? If not, how/why does the contract let them get away with sh--ting on you? Will you take another contract that does the same?
You need lawyers, good ones.
You'll have to supply the other 2 things yourself.
Can the FOP finally get fucking serious about residency. I know it’s not contractual, so fight it down in Springfield. File a lawsuit saying it’s unconstitutional like every other big city has done and WON. This is bullshit. If there were ever a time, it is now.
Counter their off with a residency lad suit. Take that bitch, get all other unions in same boat to join suit.
I have no idea how you guys just don’t walk off the job at this point.
If this is true simply go for arbitration ASAP as the abuse heaped on the officers by the shitty makes a good argument for better compensation.
Time to vote alderman out. 1st is the snake Sposato.
Get that big list ready of all the money our esteemed mayor has frittered away
on social projects, violence interrupters who shall be unnamed and nowhere to be found,
the Census Cowboy, the LA policing guy who was hardly ever here, the illegal immigrant cash money,
all those negated fines and fees the community got exempted from, and the list goes on.......
Paying off the Do-Nothing Commie teachers at 16% should be our starting point....
NOT TO MENTION.....we still have state and federal protections by law that can not be undone!
Take the money and run.
Bull Shit . Let bug eye get her own private Security at her residence.
OT
From Rush Limbaugh (today).
Early Monday Night game viewership was down 20%
vs. 2019. EVERY NFL game this year (so far) is DOWN
vs. 2019, except Tampa/Saints. Tampa/Saints viewership
was up only because Tom Brady was playing.
BLM must have so connection with the LGBQT movement because they are always so visible at the riots
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/16/watch-protesters-attempt-to-block-traffic-harass-restaurant-patrons-in-philadelphia/
The Democrats will literally do anything to win. The video below is of a woman in Oregon taking matters into her own hands and stopping an arsonist start fires. Global Warming - Blame Trump, Wildfires - Trump. Look at the pattern of fires along Highway 101 - interesting pattern for wildfires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=VCrGHnW077o&feature=emb_logo
How many million for the bullshit COVID tracing? But no money for the police. Teachers get 16 percent pay raise for 5yrs and a ridiculous 40 percent raise for teaching assistants but no money for the police.
For over 10 yrs there have posts on this blog,
almost every day, that anyone doing proactive
police work is a fool, stupid, insane, etc, etc, etc.
This is how much the city appreciates you!
One word - Residency.
Can someone tell me why our FOP has never fought this archaic rule/law? It’s way past time for this stupid rule to be gone.
From the scum times;
In the letter, Frisch seemed to signal the administration would not back down on issues of police accountability.
“Your members deserve better,” Frisch wrote to Catanzara. "We remain committed to working together toward a fair contract, but will never retreat from the reforms that are essential to restoring legitimacy and accountability.
“It is clear that you are totally misreading this moment, the demands of the consent decree and the needs of the public,” he continued.
*This idiot the demands of the consent decree that was put together by the criminal madigans Lisa in particular who quickly resigned her position hopefully the federal authorities are looking in her and her father which we already know you’re going after daddy, the needs of the public needs to the public as they need police to do their jobs and you wanna wait for them to do that is for the Democrats they control everything to stop with the lawlessness and anti-police mantra Democrats ruin everything throughout the country especially in the most corruption filled city state and county the blood runs thick the murders keep rising!
Teachers 16% to sit at home and teach 350,000. Chicago police nothing to serve 2.4 million and take a beating by everyone. Lightfoot will destroy Chicago in short order.
I know it’s not all about money, but FUCK THAT!!!!
Back-loading it is BS.
That basically turns it into an interest-free loan that the city has had, with our money.
And on top of that, there is no need/pressure to negotiate in a timely manner if there are no consequences.
Make no mistake, extending negotiations extraordinarily long and avoiding/minimizing back pay IS designed to be punitive as a “fuck you” from the city- simply because they can.
I know that there are a lot of other urgent issues at play in this contract.
But retro is money that we have EARNED, and we shouldn’t have to give something away just to get it.
Step up to the plate FOP, and help us to be treated fairly!
The way city hall treats their police officers is sick sick sick! Not surprising though. What about residency? How can we be forced to live here under these conditions? Also, our salary doesn’t come close to the cost of living increases. Who will ever take this job? Especially being forced to reside here.
Contract protections stripped? I always asked my troops to fly under the COPA radar. You achieve that by laying low and reducing citizen engagements. Answer your calls that’s all I ask. Now I’ll have to order everyone to be fetal. For their own good.
WOL
Start marching
We should have the option of retro check or residency. Anyone in the future would just have to pay 10k and get residency too. All the city cares about is money so it's a win-win for everyone.
I took comp time with days off cancelled and extended tours. Did anyone else not get their overtime pay? If the city is in trouble why are the selling on old firehouse for a dollar? If CTa is in trouble then its in trouble financially again. Why is the city going to give "incentives" to build big apartment buildings on the south and west by Chicago Transient Authority stations? Emmanuel started the water/sewer/garbage taxes to "modernize" the water system. Why are we still having problems with contaminated water? Fuck this city. Fuck this city and this wrlfare parasite infested country
Fuck this city. If you are doing more than answering calls you need your head checked. Now districts are short. Some districts are more short than before. This DCO pilot program is eating all the manpower for what?
Groot is nuts! Everyone hit the medical!
Sounds good, plan on going to four winds casino soon.
Great!
My Sgt told us he wants more activity, sure guy. What a fool
I am starting to believe this city is 95% filled with rats, vermin, and the creatures that deserve to get drained out of this swamp. You will not see me support any of those fools with the aldercreatures anytime, whether its a call(I am slow rolling as hell into that call), when I arrive on scene, and if their stupid ass isn't on scene I will call back(added reassurance to make sure I made my attempt to reach the "victim") and 19b that bitch if they are on voicemail. If it's a representative of the office, I will tell them no can do and i will need the owner himself, and not go in until the demon themselves show up and tell us verbally on camera and of course sign the consent to search sheet to enter their premise. Play these stupid games with police, I will play stupid games with these anti-police and stupid yokels from wherever they lurk. Sick and tired of hearing "We support the police." But we don't try to get involved on legislature to help back police and empower police. Reap what you sow, Minnesota's "city council" are upset all this crime is occurring in their city and the media outlets ask them questions such as "Should we give more resources to police?" "Was does the city council not have a plan for their "community plan based service system"?" I'll tell you why, because these woke fucking moronic, inbred, mama's/daddies basement/wealthfare individuals love not working and living off the governments dime with creating chaos in THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS OR THE CITY. Let me repeat that barney style, THEY LOVE DOING CRIMINALS THINGS AND THE MAYOR AND POLITICANS WON'T ADMIT WHO THE PROTESTORS/LOOTERS/SHOOTERS/PILLAGERS ARE... Oh gee, yeah don't say, these people live in XYZ and do these things? And then this booze city threatens to take all the hard work we have done, all the bullshit we endure and give us scarps while we are societies garbage man? Na boss man/lady, hope you don't have to sleep under your bed when people enter your condo or home and threaten you, hope you don't to call the police for US to protect YOUR weak anti-police ass. Keep hiding morons, these rioters/looters/shooters all see the same thing, if you have money, they will take it from you and they'll burn/loot/shoot/invade/etc whatever they want because of this stupid tree stump of a mayor and her "woke" idealogy and two faced tactics.
The Democrats are already cheating with the ballots mailed out to military personnel overseas. How in God's name do you put the wrong day for Trump's vice president, Pence. This is election interference already. The Democrats are doing everything to win.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/16/democrat-michigan-secretary-of-state-misprints-trump-ticket-on-ballots-for-troops/
Now why would the city think that we would accept anything less than the exact financial agreement, including retro pay, that the Sgts and Lts received?
FOP told no retro the city is poor. Oh, and a handful of reforms, 17 pages of reforms. Me thinks the city is full of shit!
Don’t plan any family time starting Halloween weekend. 12 hour days and rdo’s cancelled for at least several weeks. The mail in ballots will prolong the agony. Enjoy ur retro!
That’s the BS Supervisors contract again. Me to only works when the guy gets more
this is what are officers are dealing with on a daily basis. They should be given awards for restraint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqyH8HfrUlI&ab_channel=TatumReport
This is what true leadership looks like. Vice President Pence calling out the looters and the violence. Democrats would never give this speech because they would be attacking their base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEBEMn8dQV8&ab_channel=TatumReport
Mike Pence - he cares about us
Since MSM won't cover President Trump's speech anymore here is the link to the powerful speech he gave on fake news and law and order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j61y3Nsv_gM&ab_channel=TatumReport
They’re trying to gut protections by law anyways. No union protection for job action? Well, doesn’t look like we have protection anyways so let’s do a test run and give them what they want. See how much they enjoy that world they think they wanna live in. Annotate ALL the money they are finding and giving away for stupid bullshit programs and three or four layers of welfare bullshit.....but they wanna cry broke?! Give me a fucking break. We might as well get exactly what the sergeants got.....Likely their negotiating tactic. Offer fucking peanuts and everyone will just be like give us what the sergeants got.....and in the end, they get what they want.....and they’ll still work you into a grave while paying the communist teachers a higher raise to stay home, not work, and indoctrinate your children on your dime. Makes total sense, in this socialist shithole we live in.
At work strike. Slow down to a crawl.
Anonymous said...
I told you Arbitration was a big mistake better off working under current contract with disciplinary protections!
9/16/2020 08:01:00 AM
You are an idiot. Do you even know what the hell is going on.
So,you say we work under current conditions...that means we should go on forever with no raises...how long should we go without a raise?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Your going to have to accept whatever they put out there. Then take them to court over residency. You will win that. But your screwed unless you want to keep working under the old contract and wait until she is out of office. Or sue for residency now and use that for better contract leverage. They do not want to lose the residency hammer.
9/16/2020 09:32:00 AM
They haven’t won the residency in the last 20 years. What makes you think they can win now? If lawyers thought they could win it now they would jump on it and FOP would have filed a suit
Just allow me to retire right now. 25 years should be the number and you can walk away no matter how fucking old you are. This is fucking bullshit. I hate this fucking City
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fire got 10% for 4 years with 7.5% in first 3 years, but 1 for year 1. The raises are compounding so it’s important that the early years are at least 2% or more.
Bottom line, going to arbitration is going to add another year to take us into year 5. The arbitration process, in my opinion, is corrupt and there is no way to convince me the arbitrator isn’t bought and paid for by the city. It much cheaper to give a suitcase of 1 million dollars to the person making the decisions than it is to pay 10’s to 100’s of million to the whole department.
It’s not about the money. It’s about the disciplinary procedures and the affidavits
Counter their off with a residency lad suit. Take that bitch, get all other unions in same boat to join suit.
9/16/2020 10:08:00 AM
That might work for you since you're a renter, but for us homeowners we need future city workers to but our homes.
back loaded does retired pension increase? Fuk No
BS We need RETRO John Keep Fighting for US
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can the FOP finally get fucking serious about residency. I know it’s not contractual, so fight it down in Springfield. File a lawsuit saying it’s unconstitutional like every other big city has done and WON. This is bullshit. If there were ever a time, it is now.
9/16/2020 10:05:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Counter their off with a residency lad suit. Take that bitch, get all other unions in same boat to join suit.
9/16/2020 10:08:00 AM
Would love to see residency so I could move out of the city. That being said no Illinois Court is going to rule it unconstitutional and it’s a state issue, especially the Illinois Supreme Court. If it’s such an easy win, why haven’t the last 5 FOP administrations filed suit or the CFD union or all the city employee unions? Name one big city in Illinois that filed a residency suit claiming it was unconstitutional and won
Believe me I’m for it but it’s not as simple as you think
two man cars 24/7
war against police
do not respond to any calls without a back up
people in Jefferson park , please call 911 for every suspicious person , barking dog , noise complaint , only way to get more manpower
I’ve been retired 7 years and have gotten 3% raise each year. 21% raise for COLA...if you have the age and the time, retire that’s a no brainer. You will have to have been born before 1966. Stay safe
Anonymous said...
One word - Residency.
Can someone tell me why our FOP has never fought this archaic rule/law? It’s way past time for this stupid rule to be gone.
9/16/2020 12:07:00 PM
It’s completely mind boggling that we still have forced residency in the year 2020! Times have greatly changed. Residency is a major turnoff to get a decent applicant pool to become police officers. Especially now. Why the hell hasn’t JCat started the process? He campaigned saying it’s his top priority.
Suburban LEO here, over got an idea. How about we take the next 400 “non-violent” offenders That are released on recogs or low cash bonds. Take them in order, so no one can manipulate which ones qualify. We house the first hundred on a hotel floor with Prickwrinkle, the second hundred with Crimesha on another floor, the third hundred on a floor with Evans, and the last hundred on a floor with Campanella and her super-liberal views. They all stay there for a week, go about their lives.
Let’s see 1) how many recidivists we have in that week, and 2) if they are willing to put their money (or their lives) where their mouths are. If they have so much confidence that this social experiment is working and they’re letting the right people out, then it’s time to put up or shut up. Way too many decent people in neighborhoods throughout the city are terrorized by these same assholes and they don’t have a choice but to live near them.
You guys whining about Residency, just forget about it or find another Police dept.!
The city NEVER gonna give us residency and you knew what you got when you took this job!
For long term F.O.P., work on the Health Insurance the way it used to be and get lower premiums, with lower age at least 50 years old, with better coverage!
That's what you young Officers NEED to understand!
There are Police Officers with 30 years of service on, but only 50 years old and can't get the low premium Health insurance until 55 years old!
In the long run, health insurance is a way more important topic than residency because when most of you Officers retire most coppers move away from Chicago!
Look what Rahm did and stole, and bragged about taking away the health insurance from retirees!
Rahm committed a crime and was against the Illinois Constitution!
Anonymous said...
I told you Arbitration was a big mistake better off working under current contract with disciplinary protections!
9/16/2020 08:01:00 AM
Why? Did the arbitrator rule already? We haven’t even filed yet you idiot. Do you have a crystal ball?
12% over three years,retro and residency
Anyone hear about a LT getting called down to copa to identify troops by names from riots so they can hammer down disciplinary actions? I guess there’s tons of video footage from may that they are trying to screw us all on.
Teachers 16% to sit at home and teach 350,000. Chicago police nothing to serve 2.4 million and take a beating by everyone. Lightfoot will destroy Chicago in short order.
9/16/2020 12:37:00 PM
Settle for not one cent less than what the teachers received! They are not educating the children but they do have a great public relations team. The FOP needs to hire great communicators.
You can tell the Mushroom & Frog Hybrid that she can stick her offer up her bony ass! We have worked to hard & put up with so much bullshit to accept such a slap in the face to my brothers & sisters in blue. I can wait until she is no longer mayor.
Make overtime pay pensionable
Make residency a bonus. You live in the city, you get an extra yearly bonus for cost of living in city. You can take it or leave it...your choice.
Its the younger generation who think doing activity for bosses makes them feel cool, its bragging rights to friends. There used to be a day in any union when whoever crossed a picket line was called a SCAB, or a knobstick. We cant strike, but we have an imaginary picket line which is not doing anything proactive whatsoever to help this Mayor. Not only because youll get screwed eventually being proactive, but this Mayor needs to understand that without us, this city would be literally in pieces. Downtown and the Mag Mile would still be on fire. Her home that we protected for her would have been burned to the ground. This Mayor cares NOTHING for police or whether you go home safe, or if youre black, white, hispanic, asian, gay, whatever. Youre a cop, and youre the enemy in her eyes. She cares about herself and how she appears nationally to liberals and to black people. I dont know how many times its been said on this blog, but its time to treat the proactive officers like they have crossed the picket line, cut them off, and treat them like they just stole money or food from you, because thats what they are doing. They need to understand that their actions are hurting everyone and negotiations. F this Mayor.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
My Sgt told us he wants more activity, sure guy. What a fool
9/16/2020 02:11:00 PM
**Make sure you turn on your body cam and tell your SGT to say that!! I guarantee the prick wont say a word and then threaten to CR you. Fucking Merits.
STFU with the residency already!
Anonymous said...
Don’t plan any family time starting Halloween weekend. 12 hour days and rdo’s cancelled for at least several weeks. The mail in ballots will prolong the agony. Enjoy ur retro!
9/16/2020 02:59:00 PM
**I just don't understand why the 12 hr. shifts?? Why cant everyone still do their normal shift even on RDO's?? Same amount of manpower and its easier to deal with than 12 fucking long hrs. By the way, don't forget we also have the TRIAL OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICERS COMING UP!!! Fun times ahead, and a lot of overtime, Merry Christmas.
Stop with the residency being attached to the contract! That has nothing to do with our contract negotiations. The contract will be too muddled with residency being added as a chip & we will have to give up too much. Fight the unconstitutional residency issue under separate terms, on its own. That is the legal way.
Focus on the contract in itself- discipline, pay, cancelled days off/12hr days/holiday cancelled (Time & a half, double time, double time & a half), etc.
nonymous said...
One word - Residency.
Can someone tell me why our FOP has never fought this archaic rule/law? It’s way past time for this stupid rule to be gone.
9/16/2020 12:07:00 PM
**Thats because you have to go to court and fight its not a contractual thing...and do you think for one moment that a DemoRATic judge will rule in our favor...yes, they have won the fight in other states but it wont happen here with all the corrupt fuckers we have in this city and state.
No arbitration until you file the Residency law suit. THEN you have bargaining power. Otherwise she has you over the city is broke barrel. While you cannot strike you can sue. THEY are scared to death over a residency law suit it would open Pandora box for all city workers. She knows she cannot let that happen otherwise city is bankrupt in a year or two. Property values and tax revenue go way down with a win. Taxpayers with two income families leaving city in droves, who will be left to pay for the Free Shit? Especially if Trump wins and there is no Federal bailout. To big to fail, Detroit wasn't. That city went from 2 million plus to 600k in several short years. So do not arbitrate sue instead.
Lets do this, well take the 10% for 4 yrs but also add another 5% for THIS yr only, which would be considered HAZARD PAY SINCE ALL THIS VIRUS BULLSHIT STARTED and we were forced to work without the proper safety equipment for most of it.
They will do anything to stick it up our asses. Funny why not offer thne same as CTU?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One word - Residency.
Can someone tell me why our FOP has never fought this archaic rule/law? It’s way past time for this stupid rule to be gone.
9/16/2020 12:07:00 PM
Municipalities that have chosen to impose employee residency requirements have sometimes faced constitutional challenges to their policies. These challenges seldom succeed in the courts. All that is needed for an employee residency requirement to be constitutional is that the municipality had a “rational basis” for adopting the requirement. This standard can be easily met. The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals (the federal appeals court that sits in Chicago) has noted, for example, that a city’s need to have its employees sometimes available on short notice is a sufficient, rational reason for a residency requirement to make it constitutional. Gusewelle v. City of Wood River, 374 F.3d 569, 578 (7th Cir. 2004.)
Take the ten percent and shove it up ur ass! F U Larry.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One word - Residency.
Can someone tell me why our FOP has never fought this archaic rule/law? It’s way past time for this stupid rule to be gone.
The Municipal Code of Chicago Section 2-152-050, ―Residence Restrictions,‖ provides that all City employees must reside in the City and makes no mention of a waiver from the residency requirement: All officers and employees of the city shall be actual residents of the city.
Maybe it’s time for the police to protest?
We should be asking for interest on the money owed!
If we keep this up NO mayor will ever give us a contract on time.
I would HATE for officers to start calling in sick in mass after election day. It would be wrong. or you soft officer might come in 4 or 5 hours late to your shift that would be wrong.
Register to vote already
I'm starting to think the city doesn't much care for the police. Maybe you guys should take a couple days off. Turn off the phone. Recharge the ol' batteries, clean up the house, play with your kids. Then see if they're ready to come up with a contract that's a little more amenable.
This is complete bullshit, we work our asses off, get shot at. Beat with skateboards and deal with more shit than any other profession. Get abused verbally and physically on a daily basis. And everyone wonders why Morale is down. What a bunch of assholes.
I fear that former vice president Joe Biden would be a figurehead president, incapable of focus or leadership, who would run a teleprompter presidency with the words drafted by his party’s hard-left ideologues. I fear that a Congress with Democrats controlling both houses — almost certainly ensured by a Biden victory in November — would begin an assault on the institutions of government that preserve the nation’s small “d” democracy. That could include the abolition of the filibuster, creating an executive-legislative monolith of unlimited political power; an increase in the number of Supreme Court seats to ensure a liberal supermajority; passage of devastating economic measures such as the Green New Deal; nationalized health care; the dismantling of U.S. borders and the introduction of socialist-inspired measures that will wreck an economy still recovering from the pandemic shutdown.
I fear the grip of Manhattan-San Francisco progressive mores that increasingly permeate my daily newspapers, my children’s curriculums and my local government. I fear the virtue-signaling bullies who increasingly try to dominate or silence public discourse — and encourage my children to think that their being White is intrinsically evil, that America’s founding is akin to original sin. I fear the growing self-censorship that guides many people’s every utterance, and the leftist vigilantes who view every personal choice — from recipes to hairdos — through their twisted prisms of politics and culture. An entirely Democratic-run Washington, urged on by progressives’ media allies, would no doubt only accelerate these trends.
Every sane American should know that voting for Dementia Joe because you somehow don't like President Trump is like eating a dog turd because you don't like broccoli.
TRUMP 2020!
Kamala was always the insider choice, but so disliked by the rank-and-file they couldn't pump her up past Bernie. This is Plan B to sneak her in the back door.
One really needs to watch Trump's presser today and compare to a Joe+Teleprompter affair. What a jarring and stark contrast.
Trump gave lengthy, informed extended answers on varied complex subjects received from a hostile and snarky press, sometimes shouting at him and interrupting him, and he took them apart without ever getting angry or losing composure.
Compare that to Joe reading an answer (poorly) from his teleprompter to a scripted question offered by an adoring press standing dozens of yards away wearing a mask outdoors.
What a performance.
Some have used the vaccine as a goal for getting rid of masks. Watch how fast they move the goalposts again. I don't care if their vaccine is made from pez if it gives us a stick to beat the maskers with.
I still think the Wuhan Virus Pandemic is overblown. I don't think it is any worse than a bad seasonal flu epidemic. And I think a large number of the number of the Wuhan Virus deaths were due to comorbidity illnesses or the seasonal flu but since Medicare pays the hospitals more for Wuhan Virus admissions than for other admissions, the hospitals and doctors are reporting almost everything as Wuhan Virus.
Left wing thinking fully prevents rational thinking.
Look at there mobs, what they call leaders, and more so
the fear hate and deceit they teach and propagate.
Why would the Democrats care about what voters think when they're already committed to stealing the election through mass fraud, which they'll try to cover up with propaganda level media? The only "voters" they care about are illegals, criminals, and the dead.
Coup by Covid19 Lie !
ALL Americans should salute our police and fire fighters EVERY day but especially on September 11.
TRUMP 2020!
Whatever, I will do that much less.
3 years going on 4. Kevin John. All failures. ! Quit making excuses for everyone not getting a contract. We should have had an arbitrator 2 friggin years ago ! Do we even have one picked yet ?? And that’s another year or two once arbitration begins
How do the jaggyballs on her detail feel?
PEOPLE UNCLEAR ON THE CONCEPT: The Violent Thug Animals Who Used Their Bikes As Weapons, To Attack And Injure Dozens Of Chicago Police Officers, Are All Butt-Hurt, After Their Bikes Got Damaged - Chicago Streetblog
https://chi.streetsblog.org/2020/09/16/bent-wheels-smashed-derailleurs-slashed-tires-many-bikes-seized-by-cpd-were-badly-damaged/
Time to retire soon, away from this shithole!!!!
Hey FOP! Why aren’t we gearing anything from you about the pension situation?
Or are the raises you are seeking only of your concern because of the increase in dues that comes with them.
I love sanctuary city. What do I receive for free?
Don't arbitrate, wait til this gremlin is gone
Who is in charge of mayor's security detail now that she dumped her retired federal security guard?
And F U Lori...every day of the week.
Inevitable.
Abritration now and within 1 year of no contract.
Residency has everything to do with your contract fool. You do not have a contract now because you have absolutely no leverage. Threat or actual lawsuit will force them to sit down and give you what you want. Why is that so hard for you thick headed sashays to understand. You have no bargaining power at present time. You are at the mercy of someone who openly hates everything you stand for. 3 years of hat in hand begging has gotten absolutely nothing, except them laughing in your face. Her Clown comment should have opened your eyes. That is what she thinks of you and your union representation, clowns and tools to provide her personal protection. Kind of like court jesters back in the day. The CPD are an amusing group, just watch how high they jump when I clap my hands. Your only hope is to leverage something against their power and your only card is residency. Play the card or knuckle under to their demands choice is yours.
Residency is only a law if the city chooses to enforce it. Just like UUW, PSMV, and felony theft isn't a crime...
Challenge Residency.. Take the gloves off.
They gave teachers who went on strike 16%, they bent over backwards for those commoe assholes. We get shit on everyday, and get offered 10%, its a big fuck you. Consider what you have to deal with,how shitty the job has become and the hatered directed towards you by these same assholes offering the 10%. In addition they want it so an anonymous compliant will be enough to fire you.. Any of you coppers who just want retro or the money like the last contract need to have your heads checked,take 5 minutes to do your own research, this your career and livelyhood right?
No raise and new Commander Shemash is telling Sgts. to ask us to make traffic stops! Get off your big ass and make them yourself lady.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/education/2020/9/16/21439924/cps-public-schools-workers-covid-pandemic-ctu-teachers-union?tpcc=email-breaking
Anonymous said...
Counter their off with a residency lad suit. Take that bitch, get all other unions in same boat to join suit.
9/16/2020 10:08:00 AM
That might work for you since you're a renter, but for us homeowners we need future city workers to but our homes.
Your home value is dropping because of high taxes, bad schools, crime, and poor city services. Not residency.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-lancaster-solved-its-rioting-problem-in-one-day-heres-how-they-did-it
Right to strike and residency nothing less.
Anonymous said...
Whatever, I will do that much less.
9/16/2020 07:46:00 PM
Winner winner chicken dinner. Even if you are doing absolutely zero right now there's always a way to do less.
Bottom line, going to arbitration is going to add another year to take us into year 5. The arbitration process, in my opinion, is corrupt and there is no way to convince me the arbitrator isn’t bought and paid for by the city. It much cheaper to give a suitcase of 1 million dollars to the person making the decisions than it is to pay 10’s to 100’s of million to the whole department.
Finally someone that gets it! This is real knowledge 0 sarcasm intended!
One word - Residency.
Can someone tell me why our FOP has never fought this archaic rule/law? It’s way past time for this stupid rule to be gone.
FOP and CiTy are one in the same friend. Its in the contract... no one ever reads the contract. Guess who grants the employee leave to work at FOP hall?... The character of nepotism is embedded in the rules... meaning the specifically looks down on any new union being formed that is not FOP. Read the rules and regs. Study CPD contract history. You are the city’s bitch because at the height of this job we CPD was an ok place to work at... now, not so much!
Catanzara said his members deserve more. Never mind that Lightfoot sent her budget director and chief financial officer to Tuesday’s negotiating session to talk about the combined $2 billion shortfall for this year and next.
“I basically told them our members are not gonna take it over the barrel because you guys delayed us intentionally for three years now. And now, because, `Woe is me. We’re poor,’ now, we have to take it on the chin. That’s not gonna happen,” he said.
“Firemen get to go back to their firehouse and wait for the next call, no matter how long they’re working. Police don’t have that luxury. They’re out there standing on foot posts for 12 or 14 hours. No bathrooms in sight. Women have to go find a dumpster to squat behind to go to the bathroom. Getting s--- thrown at us. Fireworks shot at us. Spit on. .… Our profession is a harder profession — especially in this day and time. And we need to be treated and compensated accordingly.”
Read too many comments on not doing arbitration.
The point is that you have no choice.
You want pay? She wants you to voluntarily give up contract protections.
Do Not Give up any disciplinary protections. Groot will fuck all of you.
The Arbitrator can only rule on unresolved contract issues. Nothing more.
I recently retired and don't want to see any of my friends get fucked for a fast dollar.
Don’t forget lets keep after the no name tags and stars. It’s a safety issue.
20 and out... no age, no medical
Apparently nobody reads the contract.
Article 27: Residency....it’s in the contract, ergo we can demand it be lifted for PO’s. Not that hard.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kamala was always the insider choice, but so disliked by the rank-and-file they couldn't pump her up past Bernie. This is Plan B to sneak her in the back door.
9/16/2020 07:19:00 PM
So disliked by black people she dropped out post haste, now pervert Joe had only a couple choices since he said he would pick a female and was told she must be black. So the one that called herself an Indian-American is now an African-American. You couldn't find two worse people to run on the democratic ticket than jerky Joe and Harris the ho. Why would anyone in their right mind vote for these two even if they do hate Trump. They will cheat and refuse to back down when Trump wins. What a country it's become. Lots of problems before but this new upside down world is the worst yet. Groot probably thinks he should have been the VP pick.
No arbitration until you file the Residency law suit. THEN you have bargaining power. Otherwise she has you over the city is broke barrel. While you cannot strike you can sue. THEY are scared to death over a residency law suit it would open Pandora box for all city workers. She knows she cannot let that happen otherwise city is bankrupt in a year or two. Property values and tax revenue go way down with a win. Taxpayers with two income families leaving city in droves, who will be left to pay for the Free Shit? Especially if Trump wins and there is no Federal bailout. To big to fail, Detroit wasn't. That city went from 2 million plus to 600k in several short years. So do not arbitrate sue instead.
You are kidding, right? Have you ever wondered why no lawsuit has been filed? If she was scared to death she would have given into the FOP demands
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Stop with the residency being attached to the contract! That has nothing to do with our contract negotiations. The contract will be too muddled with residency being added as a chip & we will have to give up too much. Fight the unconstitutional residency issue under separate terms, on its own. That is the legal way.
Focus on the contract in itself- discipline, pay, cancelled days off/12hr days/holiday cancelled (Time & a half, double time, double time & a half), etc.
Residency is a city ordinance, would have to be changed
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Stop with the residency being attached to the contract! That has nothing to do with our contract negotiations. The contract will be too muddled with residency being added as a chip & we will have to give up too much. Fight the unconstitutional residency issue under separate terms, on its own. That is the legal way.
Focus on the contract in itself- discipline, pay, cancelled days off/12hr days/holiday cancelled (Time & a half, double time, double time & a half), etc.
9/16/2020 06:14:00 PM
**THANK YOU!!! Finally, someone with brains...lets forget about the fucking residency, move on to more important things...medical coverage, rdo cancelled/12 hr shifts, swiping, retro pay, hazard pay, etc.
Residency has been tried many times stop wasting time it’s not happening, if you want out you can lateral somewhere else I did, but now looking at my suburb the people neighbors were better in mount greenwood, section 8 here, and let’s say different people moving in! Oh and my taxes went from 4500 a year now at 12,500, on suburban departments not bad but politics are worse and cannot change units and locations as easily a Cpd! Simply said grass is not always greener. Look at Naperville (hint) crime covered up and Rapidly rising taxes neighborhoods changing, the elected voted in section 8 and what a change! Where you going to move to sport?
We are going to get obliterated in arbitration. The arbiter for the negotiations with the sgts Union sided almost exclusively with the city, even when it broke state law. If you haven’t stopped working already, start.
Time to go to the bathroom and take a Larry.
Residency is not something that can be negotiated as part of a labor union contract since it is a city ordinance that requires employees be residents of the city. No labor union contract has any power at all to abrogate actual provisions of law.
You want to fight residency, you will have to fight the ordinance that requires it.
Apparently nobody reads the contract.
Article 27: Residency....it’s in the contract, ergo we can demand it be lifted for PO’s. Not that hard.
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Fine. Take it out. It does not change anything. A city ordinance still requires city employees be residents.
Newt Gingrich just called out the swamp and pointed out Soros is the cause of progressive district attorneys and corrupt officials like Kim Foxx and the announcers said to not bring up Soros and Gingrich is "why, he paid for them." and some awkward silence for a few seconds and it was like "cut to commercial, commercial." He said police officers will never be able to do their job with Soros pulling the strings.
It would be interesting to see how the internet scrubs his name so it is squeaky clean.
Big Money, just ask John Kass at the Tribune.
do not give up any disciplinary issues
Lori call police that use deadly force when being attacked with a bat a coward
yes she strips 14 of manpower because she is afraid someone will yell at her and her family
9/16/2020 10:08:00 AM
That might work for you since you're a renter, but for us homeowners we need future city workers to but our homes.
Your home value is dropping because of high taxes, bad schools, crime, and poor city services. Not residency.
9/16/2020 10:02:00 PM
Actually home values on the far NW side and even Mt Greenwood are up. Limited supply of homes and city workers looking to buy. Get your facts straight. Keep residency, you don't like it then go work in the suburbs.
Pretty soon I will be hanging up my spurs after 30 years on this job. I look at it as a love/hate relationship if that makes any sense. I really loved it and hated it at the same time. Nobody came on this job to get rich but it would be nice to feel appreciated and get paid a little more than the garbage men. We have all heard the caviat that we are held to a higher standard than an ordinary citizen. Then show some respect and make an offer that makes sense and is in line with other contract resolutions that have recently been made.
Residency restriction removal now!
Anonymous said...
Bottom line, going to arbitration is going to add another year to take us into year 5. The arbitration process, in my opinion, is corrupt and there is no way to convince me the arbitrator isn’t bought and paid for by the city. It much cheaper to give a suitcase of 1 million dollars to the person making the decisions than it is to pay 10’s to 100’s of million to the whole department.
This is a yes and it is a no. The loser pays the arbitrator and if things are close, the city and FOP split the fees, which can be substantial. There is a list of arbitrators from which one is chosen. It seems that the arbitrators do not want to upset either side for fear of not being picked in the future, so they tend to split the decision
Jiminy Cricket said...
Apparently nobody reads the contract.
Article 27: Residency....it’s in the contract, ergo we can demand it be lifted for PO’s. Not that hard.
9/17/2020 12:31:00 AM
Stop whining about an issue that less than 5% of the dept would use. It's great that you want to move to whatever suburb you grew up in and live near mommy and daddy but why should everyone else make concessions for you?
Jiminy Cricket said...
Apparently nobody reads the contract.
Article 27: Residency....it’s in the contract, ergo we can demand it be lifted for PO’s. Not that hard.
9/17/2020 12:31:00 AM
Jimmy Cricket, you are a stupid sob. Yes, it is in the contract, but it is also a city ordinance and a state law. A contract cannot change a law. Go back to playing with yourself and leave the blog to the adults.
Residency restriction removal now!
9/17/2020 02:37:00 PM
And we hear from another stupid sob with no knowledge of the subject at hand.
Residency, This fucks all us officers who have lived in the city and own homes. Some of us will lose up to 100K. Its easy to say this when you do not own. But when you do, you will be fucking us with this change. Also, how do you think that the pensions will be funded when we all move. Jesus have some common sense.
"...How to the jaggyballs on her detail feel..."
They're happy. They just got a bunch of those new lightweight umbrellas to hold for her.
police to be exempt from property taxes on their primary (single family unit) residence. Police to be exempt from water, sewer, trash fees.
police family members shall not pay for city colleges.
police to be exempt from wheel tax stickers.
I'm sure there are plenty more such taxes/fees the city can exempt us from, at no "immediate" cost.
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