Budget Axe Falling
Civic Federation President Laurence Msall is urging Mayor Lori Lightfoot to steer clear of raising property taxes in the middle of a pandemic and erase a $1.2 billion shortfall by confronting the sacred cows of city government.
Reconcile the number of firehouses with a decline in fire calls and a spike in medical emergencies and eliminate minimum staffing levels that triggered the bitter 1980 firefighters strike.
Switch the $9.50-a-month garbage collection fee to a volume-based charge that incentivizes recycling, lengthen the time between pick-ups and reduce the size of garbage collection crews — from three employees on a truck to as few as one.
Eliminate a healthy chunk of the 847 sworn vacancies and more than 200 civilian openings in the Chicago Police Department and reduce the number of top brass in the exempt ranks raking in six-figure salaries.
We won't pretend to know CFD staffing requirements, but we'd be safe assuming that the guys who fight fires know what they need to do the job.
Charging to a garbage "fee" and lengthening pickup times will increase an already out-of-control rat population, just like NYC. We'll guarantee this as we've seen a massive uptick in rats in all neighborhoods we work and live in. It's insane.
Groot has already fucked up our Department via disbanding and creating units, eliminating OT opportunities then screwing everyone with endless 12-hour shifts that turn into 13 hours and more due to the morons up top who can't plan anything.
We've listed dozens of spots to make cuts, most of which involve undeserved "merit" picks and house mice and duplicated levels of supervision. We even guaranteed something like $10-to-20 million savings in the first year alone.
No one seems to listen though.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
127 Comments:
This Msall guy is a quack. Always was.
If they go to volume based garbage fees, expect to see trash fly dumped everywhere. It'll be an absolute mess.
Maybe they could stop paying safe passage workers. That’d be a nice place to begin trimming the fat.
What about reconciling the number of Aldermen to the number of police districts?
I stand savings of about $29million per year, without seeing a decrease in performance efficiency.
Close half the libraries! A librarian once told me that Daley wanted to have a library in walking distance of each resident -- but now we have scooters and divvy bikes, so let the kids ride free if they prove they were at the library -- might even increase the number of visits!
Well I think every single person on the department knows the first step they should take is to eliminate the XO spot. What a complete waste. We know they can do without that rank because for 100+ years before about 5 years ago there was never a need for that spot and the department got by just fine. At the minimum put them back on the watches so there’s actually one person in charge instead of having two or three Lts that want to run things totally different ways. What a cluster fuck.
Neighbors putting garbage in others neighbor’s trash cans. I can see it now. Fuck them. I produce as much garbage as I can and don’t recycle anything. They’re gonna charge me $9.50/month on top of my taxes, they can take every piece I can create. I cannot wait to move out of this dump.
Switch the $9.50-a-month garbage collection fee to a volume-based charge that incentivizes recycling, lengthen the time between pick-ups and reduce the size of garbage collection crews — from three employees on a truck to as few as one.
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Lol... in the given scenario if the truck is man by a single pilot minus 2 stewardess— I hope gas prices and wear and tear on the truck triples.... how the hell is the truck suppose to move while garbage is being consistently being put inside the dump truck. It’s just bad thinking. I am not tagging on the streets and sans, but I want the alley to be garbage free.
The only place I can recall that the garbage trucks have 1 person is in Elmhurst. They got a truck I saw on north ave that has an arm that picks up the garbage bin. This does not work really in the city because in slot of case you physically got to retrieve the garbage cans
Groot is a total screwup, that was me pulling it nice! Whatever happened to the so-called diverse income stream Chicago he is coming in? Groot so messed this city up.
Never fear the dwarf won’t take the recommendations. The dwarf is incompetent, thus she’s incapable of managing city government; thereby unable to take the reins of leadership. The dwarf thought it was going to be a cakewalk once elected, having seen her predecessors go through the motions. Now she’s drowning in of her own making of mismanagement and dictatorial lockdown edicts. She’s fucked this city over so bad it can only be described as FUBAR.
She will do the opposite of what makes sense.
I’m not a smart man but...
Hit the city’s front line defense first.... cut the aldermen, their budgets and slush funds.
Cut the safe passage idiots.
Cut the over paid useless traffic directors
Cut the mayor’s security staff and her slush funds
There’s an easy couple Mil if not 2-3x that...
One word to describe the failing this department. Carter. He was inept as DC of special functions, now inept as 1st Deputy. So much so that they have to bring back Georgas. Another recipient of a subject matter expert's gift of a copy of the promotional test. Hey mayor, how about trying this, the best people for the job. See how that improves things.
Recyling? I haven't used my blue cart in years, I store my pool equipment in there.
If they want less Police the way to do it is to let guys with 29 and a day in leave with the medical even if they’re not 55 years old. That would get more people to retire.
Fucking around with garbage is a lousy idea. Going to a "volume based" method of costing means that people will simply dump it someplace... empty lot? Street (I seem to remember a street that got completely covered over in trash, required hi-loaders to clear it all out - and it took DAYS).... rats will feast.
Stop fucking with the emergency services - start fucking with the Alderthieves. Cut them by 66%, get rid of the $1 million/each slush funds (that's $50 mil right there). Get rid of their bullshit offices too - The City needs to give them an office in a local Police Station (a broom closet in the basement sounds good). No need for them to rent a space that the city has to pay for. They're still in the Ward, etc...
Get rid of about 33% of Strets and San - does it really take 6 guys to look at the guy in the hole?
Forget the freebies like Illegal alien ID cards, and a never-ending supply of free food for welfare leeches. Give them 3 years to get their shit together, or starve. Stop having kids you can't afford or put the fucking kids up for adoption. Harsh? Yeah, but I've been watching this welfare bullshit for decades and I'm sick of it. Time to cut it off.
Start putting criminals in jail and prison and keep them there. Cut 95% of the 6-figure "director" positions in Hotel Le Dart, hire guards. Feed the prisoners baloney and bread. Give them some water. Two TV channels: CSPAN and the Weather Channel. Make it so they don't WANT to come back ever again - no pizza.
Prohibit anyone who drops out of school before they're 21 from getting any welfare, EVER, unless they get a GED. The message? Education, or you get treated like you treat us - with disdain (obviously the truly mentally retarded are exempted). Forget the 5-6 meals at school a day crap too - Breakfast, lunch. Get the rest of it on your own dime. We're not going to do that forever either - again, have kids you can afford, or don't have them. You fucked, you had it - you feed it. It's not MY kid to feed for life. Harsh? Yeah, so is being ripped off for decades some some J/O politician can get re-elected...
No more TIF districts - get that $$$ back to where it belongs, all over the city. Pay the pensions. Tell the teachers that don't want to work 8 hours that they're fired. Watch the rest snap into shape. If they go on strike - fire them all. They get too much, do too little, and like pigs they want more. Nope. We're done.
Make people pay their damn bills - no more water amnesty, traffic ticket amnesty, etc. Pay or the City liens the house, impounds the vehicle. Move to force a sale on liens, sell or crush the vehicles - charge the owner for the service. Harsh? Yeah. Pay yo damn bills or don't incur them in the first place.
No more freebies. City's got no mo money and needs to get its shit together. For that matter - no mo DEMOCRATS... get them all out of office, vote in Republicans.
It's time for you guys to do a 100% strike, walkout, blue flu or whatever you want to call it. Let the politicians see who holds all the cards. When the city really goes up for grabs, name your own terms, and break Frog Eye's strangle hold.
Save 10 to 20 million—- how much are you in the hole Groute from waste- 500 million?
When is the new academy going up? I am sure the contract has already been signed and money is being flushed that way... but When is the police supposed to be defunded? Too many unanswered questions, blah blah blah.... can someone please protest this stuff. I sure as hell need some time off
Don't forget about the 38 billion dollar unfunded pension liability. A huge number for a city that has an annual budget in the 11 billion dollar range. That is the proverbial bull in the china shop.
Death spiral.
froggy's peeps don't have to pay any fees. why should the rest of us?
f and u groot. u ain't gettin any bailout. u too fatass.
What will happen to all those Motor Truck Operators that can ONLY drive the garbage, water trucks, etc.? Somebody gonna squeal? Making top dollar for sitting on their a$$ all day and reading porno mags? They got to go very soon!
The solution is obvious.
Since the evil little Troll is a socialist, she should do the socialist thing: Tax The 'Rich' via a City Income Tax. Problem solved.
Since Gov Fatass says taxing the 'rich' is the only fair thing to do, then why should the 'Rich' in Chicago who use & demand more of the city's services, pay the exact same amount as the 'poor' and middle-class do -- which is nothing.
Plus, a city income tax hasn't hurt New York City. Those millionaires & billionaires haven't fled so I'm positive you wouldn't see a bunch of For Sale signs lining Astor Street.
And since Gov Fatass is a Chicago resident I'm suuuuure the evil little troll could get him to cut an ad for the city, saying he'd be glad to help the city by paying a city income tax. Hell, the evil midget could even frame an Income Tax as a Chicagoans Civic Duty, as an example of patriotism. Like Biden and his 'National Mask Mandate'.
Naturally, the sawed-off runt mayor would 'promise' that the tax would 'never' be levied on 'the middle-class' or poor.
I think it's a winner!
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Cut alderman to 20-25!
DemocRATs have to fix the election otherwise obama and the rest of his disciples will be put in prison for treason.
Put the TIFF tax dollars back where they belong. Cancel the Lincoln Yards Billion dollar pay out and cancel the Roosevelt Road Billion dollar payout as well. These developers can use their own money for these projects. Between these two projects you can save almost $3 billion.
Fuck it let it burn
Msall is a police department reject and now has an agenda to destroy our pension because he couldn’t get it.
1)The garbage folks can be cut to two on a shift. I’m usually home at my pick-up time and one of the crew (50% of the month) always calls in sick.
2) Nobody ever calls out Msall who lives in Oak Park.
3) 15 alderman is all we need.
4) S he will never give FOP a contract. Good luck!
Where to cut costs? Three places. CPS. CPS. CPS.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Don't say peeps.
“We know they can do without that rank because for 100+ years before about 5 years ago there was never a need for that spot and the department got by just fine.”
Your ignorance is showing.
When OW Wilson took over there were two captains in each district. One was what we would now call the commander, the other was his assistant, or executive officer. This is the same model Los Angeles, NYPD and other large cities maintain. Wilson didn’t like not having control over these civil service captains, so he created the appointed rank of District Commander; he could now pick who he wanted to run the district and dump them as he wanted. The extra captains become watch commanders, replacing the lieutenants who had been the WC. Thus the position of Field Lieutenant was created. This is the actual problem - there’s too many lieutenants in the CPD.
Now go back to your mother’s basement.
She will ask cpd and cfd to take unpaid furlough days.City worker told me they are hearing 12 for them and could go to 24 if public saftey doesn't share the pain.
Stupid suburbanites! You CAN'T Switch to fee bases garbage pick up in the city! People will just use other people's carts and NOT PAY!
Well,we have been saying this for Years!!! Get rid of at least 25 Aldermen!!! That would be a big saving!
If think the department needs more Deputy Chiefs and XOs if we want to see the crime rate go down.
And while your at it each station should have a greeter at the entrance on each watch like Walmart. Make the folks feel welcome.
Get rid of “Serve and Protect”. How about “Can’t We All Just Get Along”.
1/2 of the population works and supports the remainder. That is a trend that is also national. It is not going to change and only will increase with the social justice warriors in charge. Chicago and Cook County is a magnate for low income people ; Cook County Hospital and Cook County Jail and social services. These things should be a state responsibility and not placed on the head of the city voters. Recall when that dumb ass Orland park Mayor said they do not want any homeless shelters in his city as there are no homeless living there? Well, Orland Park Homeless and poor, drug addicted have moved into Chicago and other South Suburbs
I didn’t know there was a collection fee. I’ve been throwing mine over the fence along the Dan Ryan like everyone else.
We've listed dozens of spots to make cuts, most of which involve undeserved "merit" picks and house mice and duplicated levels of supervision. We even guaranteed something like $10-to-20 million savings in the first year alone.
No one seems to listen though.
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Look, I respect the CFD plenty, but the reality is that the density of houses is unnecessary, it's a relic of the past when fires were a far greater threat. We have far too many houses. Sorry. Not that it will make a difference, Chicago is in an inescapable death spiral either way.
In only 1 term our first black gay female mayor destroyed this city. Now lets defund the police to keep our non-tax paying citizens happy.
The only place I can recall that the garbage trucks have 1 person is in Elmhurst. They got a truck I saw on north ave that has an arm that picks up the garbage bin. This does not work really in the city because in slot of case you physically got to retrieve the garbage cans
10/12/2020 01:03:00 AM
Welcome to the 20th century. This has been going on everywhere but Chicago for years and years. Doesnt sit well with Chicago because thats a lot of patronage jobs they would have to give up.
Every time politicians bring up cuts they threaten to cut the only things they are really supposed to do...Cops...Fire and Garbage. As someone above referenced...why is it the responsibility of the city to feed kids 3 meals and 2 snacks a day? As also referenced above..cut Streets & San 30%....hate to do away with the Mt. Carmel Masters program but how many people do you need to stare into a hole. How many aldermen do we need under Federal indictment to underscore the waste, corruption and fraud in this city? Do away with that and you may just be able to rebound...if not the city is done. The only positive to that is that the fucking teachers will get screwed eventually.
How come no recommendation to reduce the number of wards and therefore aldermen.
Every city department has way too much dead weight at the top. Cut that shit first. Next cut the alderthieves. This city would run just fine with 20 of them. Then, no more amnesty from fines and fees. Just because you're poor doesn't mean it's ok to break the law. After that, no more freebies. End the handouts and make churches start paying for water and other services.
The guy has a lot of good points. This could be used as a blueprint on what could be done. Lets get something straight, CFD is a cesspool of waste. We don't need half the fire trucks CFD has. CFD basically responds and just stand around and waits for the paramedics. Fires are at an all time low. Start the cleansing now on CFD and lower their numbers. The city only needs the paramedics which should be doubled. Next put them on a normal schedule just like the guys says. They love their schedule that should be a clue right there.
SCC, the guy said exactly what you said about the department being top heavy. Cut the number of bosses ten fold. Make Captains in charge of the districts and make Commanders the head of the Areas. Get rid of an area and dump the XO position completely. Civilianize the front and back office of every unit and district. We don't need POs who are never seen by the public. You could save millions right there. Make the county man the lock ups with the detention aides. Put civilians with the cars, radios, and cameras. I'm tired of killing myself while others sit inside on days and weekends off.
I fully agree with the poster who talked about fly dumping. That would happen instantly with a volume charge for garbage. You can easily change the amount of workers on the garbage trucks or make them do more pickups during their work day. Either way some of them have to go. The machines overspending and graft has fully come home to roost.
Garbage pickup: Many suburbs are one-man pickups, with lifts for the garbage cans. But if you expect one man to also take mattresses, furniture, doors, etc by themselves, that's crazy. My driver/operators are finally getting selective so they don't get hurt. Make it a two man crew for that. Otherwise you'll need a separate crew just to grab the big stuff, especially in da hood, where suddenly an entire house can be emptied into an alley.
CFD: She's gonna shoot herself in the head with this. It takes at least 4 firefighters to fight a structure fire: engineer to drive the engine/pumper and run the pumps, at least 2 firefighters per large-diameter hoses to hang onto the damn things, and if you need a hasty search, at least 1 firefighter with NO backup going into burning buildings. Maybe Groot thinks "communitah firefighters" will show up, or CFD can become a paid-on-call department. Imagine all the blue light civilian vehicles racing through the City to calls!
All you need is A first dep sup, and a dep for every area. Every dept in cpd can be managed by a Capt or even a lt. There I just saved the city billions. I should get a hold star for that. Oh damn I think I just fucked up
That small guy wants to cut cut cut he doesn’t have a clue for the real world works he’s been saying layoffs and cuts every time he has a budget review what a dick head tommy t
Suburban fire dept. do great job with 3 firefighters on truck. If cfd needs assistance call fire house 5 blocks away.
Hey, how about billing the owners of property destroyed by fire for the amount of water used?
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There’s money for freebies for ghetto safe passsge workers, phony reverends, violence interrupters and all that crap intended to buy west and south side votes from the permanent victim class.
The suburban garbage collection is done by one person. Yes one! I saw the guy do the entire block in under 15 mins. He drives and uses a claw to grab the cans If there’s something the claw can’t get he gets out and does it himself. Unfortunately in Chicago corruption and patronage it’s not possible. Chicago has 3-4 guys. The driver can only drive and read his phone.
The last time Groot fixed the Department to help cut costs she added five more Deputy Chiefs! Please don't do any more cost cutting in the CPD, we have way too many gold stars as it is.
P.S. G.F.Y. Groot!
Civic Federation has been around a long time, I wonder if any mayor, civic leader within Chicago has taking any bit of it’s sensible advisements. From CPS to Park District they’ve made recommendations and yet the mayor at the time scoffs, then has the city stoolies rewrite the proposals as their own with perks going back favorable donors.
Raise garbage collection or cut the length of time to pick it up? Go 10-14 days between pickups, for real? The Civic Federation didn’t think this idea out too well. We have to $9.50 a month to separate and put trash IN the can, whereas others get to throw they’shit wherever and have to polices’ pick it up.
Well let’s not forget The Hushed Hashed Brown (haven’t heard much from him lately as death tolls continue to climb), he has CUC’s (Sworn community clean up crews) doing some free expensive S&S labor.
The City Budget had raised the 2020 Public Safety Budget by $200 million from the last year. That’s where Larri and the CF come to that rounded number, so it’s easy to see why the like to use Police as the big budget drain that need cuts. What they don’t mention is where the cuts will be. If one didn’t know, there’s over 1,000 house mice quartered in the HQ...283 mice budgeted for the Superintendent, 528 mice in Bur.of Organizational Development, oh and 16 mice in the Consent Decree Office that take up $1.5 mil of the CPD entire budget.
I’m surprised the CF didn’t mention Larri LightFührer increased the Mayors Office Budget by almost $4 Million and ADDED 30 more people to the staff and they didn’t see any significant cuts to be made there.
Blame the Covid not the spendthrift Larri LightFührer.
The CARES Act sent Chicago $470 MILLION (their share of the IL $4.9 BILLION). What did Larri do with the money aside from going from an $800 mil deficit to a $1.8 Bil deficit ??? Does/will the CF get to opine on that or just carry the Larri water?
Larri and her pack of radical nincompoops listen to CF? A much smarter Rahm and shifty ShortShanks didn’t.
#1 End the SCAMDEMIC and open up the city with no bullshit restrictions
#2 DEFUND CPS
#3 Eliminate 40 alderassholes and their commie staff
That would be a good start.
10/12/2020 03:11:00 AM
Great ideas, the #1 target needs to be cps the schools steal so much,and all at home,the janitors,coaches,way to many so called teachers at home full pay and benefits as the children just get more stupid,a totally lost generation. But don't worry they are still teaching police are bad,and propping up the viewpoints to hate the police,getting into their heads at such a young age ruining their malleable minds permanently. With al the ot money coppers earn,sell your extra cars,boats and put your children in private school fuck cps the communist teaching agenda.
Hmm does the mayors child go to private school like rahms-daleys and majority of the alderman do? Just axin!
Theblueline has a ton of suburban lateral ads. My suburbs buddies are saying hiring is tough and their bosses are hoping lateral option with comparable starting salary would attract fed up CPD coppers.
Make City truck drivers get out of the trucks and help the laborers. I found out that every bureau has thier own laborers and you can't move them from say water to curb and gutter if they need help. WTF, if you are getting paid make that person work wherever they need help.These people are the first to complain about how easy the police have it.
I confess to not knowing much..... but can't FOP file suit in federal court on behalf of Chicago P.D. for the wage and hour violations that may be occurring. I would think without knowing an injunction is available. Chicago P.D. Be safe. The public that is not part of your daily routine, admire and respect you.
I live in the burbs - we have 2 garbage cans-1 garbage 1-recycling. The garbage truck is manned by 1 person with an arm that picks up each can and empty’s the trash inside. 2 different trucks come 1-garbage 1-recycling. In the summer months another truck comes for yard waste. If it’s not in the can they don’t take it. If the can isn’t facing the correct direction and on the curb they skip it. Works very well. Not sure how well it would work on the west side or Roseland or Englewood though.
I agree most libraries can be closed in the city - they were closed for months and are usually empty. With kindles and other readers books have become a waste of paper and recycling nightmare. Have an online digital collection of everything. The Dems complain so much about a lack of mental health centers- turn the libraries into mental health centers if they are really needed so much. There are more than 80 library branches-each with at least 4 librarians who make over $100k, 4 clerks who make over $75k and a custodian and building engineer making a city worker salary as well.
Correct that the number of fire calls is down from what they were in the early days- even if you got rid of half the fire apparatus, you would still need the houses for ambulance/paramedic crews. If anything they should have about 10-20 more mass casualty units to respond to all the mass or multiple shooting scenes that occur every weekend. Having 1 at ORD and 1 downtown isn’t being utilized properly (for aircraft accident or high rise fires) and should be used for ghetto stuff.
Correct they should close all 22 district stations, bring back 6 areas, build brand new buildings, and switch to 12 hour shifts/3 days a week on/4 days off. That’s 36 hours a week-negotiate for the other 4 hours to be well-being/fitness time at (1 hour each day off) for the other 4 hours. Feds get paid for 10 hours to fitness time a week. Or take it a step further and do what the feds do- get paid 25% on top of our current salary and do away with OT paid by the hour, unless it’s scheduled overtime (like a lot of the protest OT and special event OT) that would still get paid at time and a half.
CPS
Aldermen
There's where the money is. Go get it.
3 people on a garbage truck? Here in DuPage County there’s one person. One. The truck comes by, a big arm is deployed, it grabs the container and dumps it into the truck. It’s also done by a private company that bids in an open competitive process every three years.
3:11 hit nail on the head except for mandatory castration for any sex offender and fathers of bastard children. Pay up or lose your ability to have any sex. Watch how quick things clear up. Also missed the city sanctuary designation no more free rides for illegal although would be happy to trade brown for black even up any day.
Cut the Aldermen's staff and slush-funds first.
Plenty of waste in the CPS system, too.
Paying city workers to pick up trash is foolish. Privatize it. I pay about $240 a year for trash. I have two large square cans on wheels. A truck pulls up, there is a driver only. An arm grabs the can and dumps it automatically. A different truck comes the same day and gets the recycling. The driver only has to leave the truck if there are extras.
So, about $20 a month. Much cheaper than paying three city workers to do the same thing.
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Ah the left, too stupid to understand reality. Who do you think is keeping the death toll from being over 1000 every year? Its CFD, it is their quick response that is saving hundreds of lives each year. So go ahead and close fire stations, because we already know that black lives only matter when their death can be profited from.
Carter...Unprepared to handle the job
Maybe, but whenever an old lady falls in our building, they send an ambulance AND a fire truck.
Ha! Instead of closing or combining firehouses in fact the CFD has for years been operating at dangerously bare minimums since companies were closed beginning after the 1980 strike despite dramatic increases in overall call volume annually for fire-rescue and EMS/services. Numbers don't lie. For example there's a long overdue need to re-open a firehouse in the south loop to replace the closed house at 13th and Michigan (old Engine 104/Truck 31). That area is now gentrified, rebuilt up from the factory days, highly populated and very underserved by CFD; coverage there is badly needed. Also Engine 77 needs to be reopened in the newer firehouse at 16th and Pulaski with Engine 38. That area is crazy busy -- Engine 77 should've never been disbanded. Just two examples. So much for the Chicago Civic Federation's dangerous ignorence and reckless disregard of the facts. Lives are at stake. And where's the Fire Commissioner on all this? Duh? Here's a cue: Start saving by cutting 75 percent of all exempt ranks and mice in all city departments. Then go from there.
They already nixed the "volume based garbage" idea. All the Latino aldermen threw a fit claiming it would unfairly affect Hispanics because they have such large families i.e: 50 people living in one house!
Maybe the (50) aldercreatures can suggest some cost cut saving ideas?
Force the civilians to retire at 65 or 55 with 30 years. We had a 82 year old time keeper who couldn’t count her toes. Too many civilians stay past their time.
How about reducing the number of alderman and opening the TIF funds.
Msall is just another Oak Park asshole who thinks he is relevant. He’s been pushing his agenda for ages
one exempt on cpd should be the superintendent , it should always be a civilian or retired LEO so it will not drain pension fund
Captains and above can be eliminated , replaced with qualified sergeants , Lieutenants that were promoted in rank order , scoring over 70% , incentive for more responsibility would be a city car , adjustable days off and hours , maybe a yearly bon us up to $10,000 based on performance . The bonus wouldn't be pensionable .
no need for a walk out or blue flu
cars down , make an arrest , write a suspension , impound a car , write a case report on every crime , request an ET for every burglary , domestic battery , armed robbery
stay off the air we can beat this administration by doing our job
don't forget to make that late arrest , extra $$ in the bank
Vote with your feet and gtfo of Chicago and Illinois if possible the lazy demorats fucked this state up vote Trump 2020
Don't forget about the 38 billion dollar unfunded pension liability. A huge number for a city that has an annual budget in the 11 billion dollar range. That is the proverbial bull in the china shop.
10/12/2020 04:10:00 AM
Is there some proverb about a bull in a China shop that involves budgets? I think you're confused. Now make like a tree and get out of here.
Dont forget getting rid of rubber stamp alder scum. I don't blame the vertically challenged mental midget for the financial crisis the city is in. However she has not made any legitimate change to slow or reverse the damage of 60 plus years of mismanagement. Instead she accelerated it. Stop the illegal alien sanctuary city BS and dumping working class taxpayers money into creating the future enslaved democrat plantation and breeding ground that perpetuates irresponsible and unaccountable citizenry. Call Welfare what it is WELFARE not entitlements. No using the Slavery LINK card that chains you to it at anyplace other then a bonafide grocery store not a liquor store gas station or 7/11. And make only 1 special check out lane at the store that are for the Welfare card using customer only. You should be embarrassed to use it, and if you do you should be grateful.
Get rid of excess Alderman like O'Shea who doesn't do anything for his base and just panders to Groot and Foxx. Now we all have to protect our families and churches from getting burned and looted in November. Our neighbors and I are ready to protect our property and community since O'Shea just lets his neighborhood burn to the ground. Grow some balls O'Shea and stand up to Groot!
Ssshhhh, Midway is unofficially for sale and the number one candidate to purchase it is Jeff Bezos at a now dramatically cut rate price. Super secret 5th Floor Fire Sale, selling the assets is the first step to Chapter 9. Expect things to happen quickly and shady as is the Chicago way. I hope I didn’t just out a family member, but it’s been a hush hush topic and will happen before we have serious contract talks. She’s going to bleed the city of its assets, use that to further fund development on South and Westside, cry poor, raise the property taxes and of course blame the greedy police. Her main goal is a dramatically downsized police department and the further push for no pay raise yet blame us for all the financial issues. She is fixated, to the frustration of her staff, of CPD forced pay cuts out of her hatred of J-Cat.
To the the post at 2:11 PM Supt Brown has been told he is gone at 700 homicides and Groot is playing nice nice with Georgas as a Civilian #2 to Carter.
Brain Freeze: Joe Biden Says He Is Running for Senate and President
You can't have a brain freeze when you have no brain. Time for a new Ventriloquist
Seriously do we want a Prez who doesn't know where he is, can't tell the difference between his wife and sister, has no idea what position he is running for, and WILL NOT tell people his positions on anything. His whole campaign is Orange man bad, China good. Bunch of F'ing Commies the whole Democrap party.
I'll take the Orange man any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Anyone who votes for Senile Joe is just as senile and crazy as Biden.
TRUMP, SENATE, HOUSE 2020
Anybody over the age of 50 who votes for this clown doesn’t care what kind of country they’re leaving behind for their children and grandchildren. But there are a lot of selfish, gullible old people out there
Groot hates the CPD and is afraid of the CTU. guess who loses in the budget department and layoffs. My advice to FOP is to file the Residency law suit ASAP in a Federal court if possible. this will show her your serious and she knows that city cannot afford to lose the residency requirements for all the city workers. Further suggest you work with all the other city unions on a class action suit. This will bring her to her knees begging for a settlement on your terms. property values and taxes collected would plummet if ALL city workers could live outside city limits. The FREE STUFF gravy train would have to end.
The thought of Biden as President with race monger Harris only a heartbeat away is frightening. Don' t let the blooming idiot near the nuclear buttons.
He might think it's Hillary's "reset button". I’m shocked that millions of sheeple want to vote for this clown. It’s literally beyond comprehension
It’s literally beyond comprehension
25th Amendment is ready and waiting, right, NeverNancy?
Vote in Person, don't waste you're vote in Chicago and Illinois by the mail in vote fraud. Give the police back their powers and get rid of Foxx -- O'Brien 2020
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Paying city workers to pick up trash is foolish. Privatize it. I pay about $240 a year for trash. I have two large square cans on wheels. A truck pulls up, there is a driver only. An arm grabs the can and dumps it automatically. A different truck comes the same day and gets the recycling. The driver only has to leave the truck if there are extras.
So, about $20 a month. Much cheaper than paying three city workers to do the same thing.
10/12/2020 11:46:00 AM
You obviously have never been in the ghetto where they throw their garbage everywhere but in a garbage can. They always complain the city is racist cause their garbage is never picked up and the brain dead brain washed liberal news won't show all the garbage everywhere but in the garbage can. So the demorat politicians like to keeps the votes of the slobs
“Paying city workers to pick up trash is foolish. Privatize it. I pay about $240 a year for trash...So, about $20 a month. Much cheaper than paying three city workers to do the same thing.” @ 10/12/2020 11:46:00 AM
– Chicago could charge whatever and it’s not a matter of what they pay workers but how much Local 701 et al contributes to Larri. And Larri will be raising that city fee $9.50 anyway probably doubling it by 2022 due to Covid’s challenging times. The City partner Waste Mgmt Blue Cart guy comes every two weeks, works alone, I’ve seen suburbs use those trucks with side arm lifts and rarely get out, they’re fast. I have a two man crew and a union driver makes three, that’s gotta be in the $180,000 yr in wages. As for the $9.50 DYI sorting of recycling for these boners, that paper/plastic/glass doesn’t get processed anywhere near the city, we just sort regular black cart stuff again and sell it off to Waste Management, who sorts Blue Cart contents, sells, bales and sends it all slow boat to China, if they refuse to buy it, these shippers get stiffed, can’t unload it, guess where they dump it...in the ocean - on the way back. That shit doesn’t just appear on shores from folks tossing they’water bottle starboard.
It’s all a green deal climate change money grab charade.
Cut CPS!!!
one exempt on cpd should be the superintendent , it should always be a civilian or retired LEO so it will not drain pension fund
Captains and above can be eliminated , replaced with qualified sergeants , Lieutenants that were promoted in rank order , scoring over 70% , incentive for more responsibility would be a city car , adjustable days off and hours , maybe a yearly bon us up to $10,000 based on performance . The bonus wouldn't be pensionable .
10/12/2020 02:11:00 PM
You nailed it! That is the way to go.
There's always money for programs and more programs...
We Are All Replaceable
WHAT about that new police/fire academy?
The city pissed away the money on the property and this place will NEVER get built!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Theblueline has a ton of suburban lateral ads. My suburbs buddies are saying hiring is tough and their bosses are hoping lateral option with comparable starting salary would attract fed up CPD coppers.
10/12/2020 10:30:00 AM
Oh really lol I tested for numerous suburbs for over a decade and the local politicians kids plus retired Officers kids always were at the top of the eligibility lists somehow fudged! You're better off in Chicago if you don't like Officers you work with can transfer to different district bid on different assignment in smaller suburb stuck working with them and if your worst enemy on the job gets promoted they will make your life a living hell.
Anonymous said...
Put the TIFF tax dollars back where they belong. Cancel the Lincoln Yards Billion dollar pay out and cancel the Roosevelt Road Billion dollar payout as well. These developers can use their own money for these projects. Between these two projects you can save almost $3 billion.
10/12/2020 06:35:00 AM
There is plenty of money!
Take a good look at the people that pick-up your garbage, they are useless..if its not in the can don't expect them to pick your shit up..years ago we had good guys who worked the truck and worked their asses off because of the type of cans they actually had to lift, now the truck does all the work and they move like snails.
Anonymous said...
"Suburban fire dept. do great job with 3 firefighters on truck.
If cfd needs assistance call fire house 5 blocks away."
10/12/2020 09:31:00 AM
Apple vs. Orange.
Explaining how/why would be wasted on you
because you're so gleefully obtuse.
Father Pflager was a little miffed that the basketball game was called off..seems to think that playing ball is more important than handling crime
I will give it to the guys in CFD, when there is an actual fire they go and they work. It seems most of not all are hustling; know their job and roll and get it done. If I were them I wouldn’t want less than 5 on the truck but again, I’m not a fireman.
Consent decree.
Court order.
Expensive.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Maybe, but whenever an old lady falls in our building, they send an ambulance AND a fire truck.
10/12/2020 12:22:00 PM
How big is she?
Switch the $9.50-a-month garbage collection fee to a volume-based charge that incentivizes recycling, lengthen the time between pick-ups and reduce the size of garbage collection crews — from three employees on a truck to as few as one.
Most of the City does not pay the garbage fee and associated water/sewer tax. Why? If your house is valued at less than 250k (using the city's estimate) then the fee is waived.
You obviously have never been in the ghetto where they throw their garbage everywhere but in a garbage can. They always complain the city is racist cause their garbage is never picked up and the brain dead brain washed liberal news won't show all the garbage everywhere but in the garbage can. So the demorat politicians like to keeps the votes of the slobs
10/12/2020 05:12:00 PM
Well, that certainly is accurate in many areas, but not in all
I’m sorry but property taxes need to DOUBLE. Everyone wants to keep voting DemoRat (giving free shit out and layering in thousands ... yes thousands of jobs where people get full pensions, great pay and do little to nothing ... and they’re only getting the “jobs” via nepotism and their relatives in politics. Well you want all that SHIT, well then ... time to pay the piper with non-stop, ever escalating property tax INCREASES.
You all want to change this??? I have a solution - start voting Republican for all City positions. If not, Chicagoans need to STFU and enjoy the higher taxes that your fucking demonic party loves so much.
Thank you Groot for the .....
Death Spiral Down
Death Spiral Down
Death Spiral Down
Death Spiral Down
There is no stopping it now - too many business destroyed, and so, we will see ...
Death Spiral Down
Death Spiral Down
Death Spiral Down ... Chicago RIP - it was a good time while it lasted.
"Anonymous said...
Ssshhhh, Midway is unofficially for sale and the number one candidate to purchase it is Jeff Bezos at a now dramatically cut rate price. Super secret 5th Floor Fire Sale, selling the assets is the first step to Chapter 9. Expect things to happen quickly and shady as is the Chicago way. I hope I didn’t just out a family member, but it’s been a hush hush topic and will happen before we have serious contract talks. She’s going to bleed the city of its assets, use that to further fund development on South and Westside, cry poor, raise the property taxes and of course blame the greedy police. Her main goal is a dramatically downsized police department and the further push for no pay raise yet blame us for all the financial issues. She is fixated, to the frustration of her staff, of CPD forced pay cuts out of her hatred of J-Cat.
10/12/2020 04:49:00 PM"
Then it is up to her "staff" who are frustrated at her incompetence and petty hatred of the police to become a whistleblower and alert the citizens as to what her intent is. If the "staff" doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to do so, then they are complicit in her maniacal rampage to destroy the city and its workers.
SCC, the guy said exactly what you said about the department being top heavy. Cut the number of bosses ten fold. Make Captains in charge of the districts and make Commanders the head of the Areas. Get rid of an area and dump the XO position completely. Civilianize the front and back office of every unit and district. We don't need POs who are never seen by the public. You could save millions right there. Make the county man the lock ups with the detention aides. Put civilians with the cars, radios, and cameras. I'm tired of killing myself while others sit inside on days and weekends off.
I agree with getting rid of a number of exempts. problem is, this is Chicago....EVERY exempt has a politician as a spokesman. It is the only way to do business here.
We all say so much fun crap about this useless mayor but we do nothing about it! Why don't we have our own candidate for mayor ? How many police and fire offices do we have that would vote for a good, fair, unbiased Mayor! We are always in the bleachers watching the game but never play the game! We must have a qualified person among be us somewhere!!!!!!! We need to stop being politically correct and stand behind a qualified person.. put in the work to get them on the ballot and put in leg work to get people to vote!!!! We need to put someone in office that for once will take care of us!
Maybe, but whenever an old lady falls in our building, they send an ambulance AND a fire truck.
10/12/2020 12:22:00 PM
How big is she?
10/12/2020 08:26:00 PM
Fire truck usually able to respond 1st and have atleast 1 EMT onboard and can triage or use defibrillator if heart issue while awaiting ambo
I'm a city employee. Where I work there's an assistant to the assistant to the assistant manager. All 6 figure jobs. Ever hear those stories a city painter can't plug in an extension cord or flick on a light switch. Has to be a city union electrician. There's too much waste and redundancy and overkill at city government. Years ago those drums garage men had to physically lift into truck getting all kinds of nasty shit spilt on them ,rats and bugs. But now wheel cart connect to crane flip lever. 1 driver 1 laborer is all that's needed driver gets off his dead ass when there's a sofa or anything outside of cans on wheels. 50 aldermen has always been a joke. Half or less needed. There's 1000s of non essential city workers that could go before I'd fuck with cpd and cfd. Streets and sans tons of jobs cut that nobody besides the poor bastard losing his job would even notice. Does the city really need city plumbers, electrician, carpenters,stationary engineers? No!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There's always money for programs and more programs...
We Are All Replaceable
10/12/2020 05:29:00 PM
But the peoples and folks that come up with the programs are replaceable too come November
Give me a package deal and I'm outta heafuck this place
G men would love to "help you out" with extra garbage that's "off the books."
Why do we need 50 Aldercreatures?
Go ahead and take 1 guy off a fire truck in the busy parts of the city,more guys will get hurt and then go off the job on disability. Maybe thats what the city wants?
I didn’t know there was a collection fee. I’ve been throwing mine over the fence along the Dan Ryan like everyone else.
10/12/2020 07:44:00 AM
Wait until they got to the volume based system. West side garbage will be 100 times worse than it already is.
Dept Commissioner...that is all
10/12/2020 10:20:00 PM
not too bright...
there are no more"republicans" in illinois
that ship sailed long ago my friend
She is fixated, to the frustration of her staff, of CPD forced pay cuts out of her hatred of J-Cat.
10/12/2020 04:49:00 PM
She hated us long before J-CAT was elected president of FOP Lodge 7. Electing J-CAT showed her we were not going to be bulldozed without so much as a whimper. I'd rather have a no bs leader like J-CAT and stand strong rather than just let her roll over us. F.U.L.L.
https://twitter.com/ilpoliski/status/1315708456876343300
The Federal Reserve will keep printing us make believe money!
You all want to change this??? I have a solution - start voting Republican for all City positions. If not, Chicagoans need to STFU and enjoy the higher taxes that your fucking demonic party loves so much.
10/12/2020 10:20:00 PM
The people voting Democrat are the ones who don't pay those taxes, dumbass. There are rich liberals in this city who vote Democrat, but the majority of the votes come from the unemployed, stupid, criminal, do-nothings on the south and west sides. They want whoever gives them the most free shit without any effort on their part. That's why Democrats have been winning here forever. The majority of voters are useless morons waiting for more handouts.
Fr. plagher is a moron
there's no more fucking fires. period. not too complicated.
Eliminate redundant services starting with the marine unit, Coast Guard and CFD can handle it.
Defund the D-Unit, a huge waste of tax dollars and nothing more than a glorified tac team filled with entitled to clout bitches scamming OT.
Elections for Chicago Mayor, Clerk, Treasurer and Alderpeople are officially non-partisan, though only Democrats run anyway.
For Cook County, Illinois and federal offices, Republicans rarely run and aren't supported by GOP Chairs.
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