Traffic Enforcement to End
Probably the dumbest and most dangerous piece of legislation proposed in Springfield in quite a while:
- Amends the Illinois Vehicle Code. Provides that no law enforcement officer shall stop a motor vehicle for: (i) failing to display registration plates or stickers; (ii) being operated with an expired registration sticker; (iii) violating general speed restrictions (unless that violation is a misdemeanor or felony offense); (iv) improper lane usage (unless that violation is a misdemeanor or felony offense); (v) failing to comply with certain requirements concerning vehicle lamps; (vi) excessive tint; (vii) defective mirrors; (viii) an obstructed windshield or defective windshield wipers; (ix) defective bumpers; (x) excessive exhaust; and (xi) failure of the vehicle operator to wear a safety belt. Provides that no evidence discovered or obtained as the result of a stop in violation of these provisions, including, but not limited to, evidence discovered or obtained with the operator's consent, shall be admissible in any trial, hearing, or other proceeding. Preempts home rule powers.
The lib-tards call this "pretextual enforcement" whereby a sharp eyed copper notices someone breaking an actual law, then expounds on that stop to develop reasonable suspicion or probable cause.
You and we would call it good police work - and it's all COMPLETELY LEGAL, backed up by years of case law, legal precedent and US Supreme Court decisions.
Which means that cops can't be allowed to do it. Ever.
Which also means that no one has to obey any traffic regulations, no one has to maintain their vehicle in any semblance of working order, no one even has to follow signs, signals or licensing requirements upon passage of this law (which isn't passed yet, but give it a few weeks).
We're going to assume this means that we don't have to buy city stickers any more....or state plates....and the Inspection Division has to pound sand, too.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
122 Comments:
Zero percent chance of this passing. Even the most democrat of democrats aren’t prepared to lose that amount of money from stickers, citations etc etc. also, too much language in there about excessive exhaust, smoking etc which will drive the environmental people crazy. It’s sponsored by a single left wing radical to make a name for himself. Won’t even get out of committee if it even gets there. Non issue.
BLM meets I’m in charge now bitches.
This is the disastrous result.
This is NOT a dumb idea. This is an absolutely outstanding idea and should be passed through the legislature unanimously, signed into law and take effect right away. Police should not pull over anybody, for any reason, EVER. I don't give a damn if they're flying through every red light running 88 miles an hour trying to go back in time to 1985 like Back to the Fucking Future. This common sense measure simply codifies into law what should be the case to begin with.
The people have spoken. They voted in people like this cretin legislator and many many like him, overwhelmingly. The people, the same majority of which who voted in goofs like this, hate law enforcement. They want to end a coppers career, imprison and ruin them financially if they so much as look at a criminal with a stern expression.
Fuck em. They demanded chaos, they voted for it, they insisted upon it. So give it to them.
Chalkie Jr.
All growed up and ready to carry the torch!
This is all and only about probable cause leading to arrest for much more serious violation(s) of law.
Thus, a move to remove an effective means to thwart active criminals.
Has the odor akin to mexican cartels controlling their governments.
If this becomes law, the practical result for officers becomes fetality concerning vehicular law enforcement.
The defaults become:
1. On view active crimes
2. Response to dispatched to scene of accidents
3. Response to dispatched to scene of crimes involving vehicles, aka car jackings, thefts, torchings, road rage incidents, etc.
4. That's it.
Someone finds the benefits to criminals to be of greater value then the detriments to citizens.
A civilized response for citizens would be to no longer comply, at all, with the compelled purchasings of registrations, city/county stickers, etc., which would likely still be required by insurers. Thus, why pay for auto insurance, if you don't have any property to risk being taken in civil courts? The ones who will not be affected by this becoming law will be the ones who abide by the law for the benefits abiding provides them.
So, only the nothing much to nothing at all to lose will be not impeded by those pesky traffic stops, tickets, etc., with the ones actively engaging in criminal activities being more blantant then they already are.
4562 Team and every other area CST team won’t get all that activity . 4562 telling his guys drive cautious whine tracking a car for a straight steal and maybe a shooting maybe a shooting .. From 016 , 017 , 014 on the Kennedy car bails back in 017 again and suddenly 4562 Adam is right behind it after they said they were nowhere near it .. Keep risking your livelihood for a CB number if they T-Boned a car catching up on the alleged pings who aren’t always accurate … let’s see the department commendation for that sucker .
Wasn't Timothy McVeigh, murderer of 160 plus men, women, and children, apprehended as a result of a traffic stop for such a minor violation? I guess we have to let people like him go....
Sounds like this legislation is trying outlaw US Supreme Court precedents.... don't like a SCOTUS ruling? Then just make it against the law. No problem. Better yet, let's write a law banning SCOTUS. That will work.....
How did he get elected?
(WARNING: above statements contain sarcasm)
What Illinois' elected "representatives" who support this legislation fail to realize is, traffic stops are the basis of a lot of good, aggressive police work. One example: Anyone here heard of a guy named Timothy McVeigh?
Police History: How Trooper Charlie Hanger caught the Oklahoma City bomber
Trooper Charlie Hanger is proof that one cop can have an incredible impact with a single traffic stop
A short time later, Charlie passed a yellow Mercury missing a registration tag. Charlie slowed to let the driver of the Mercury get ahead of him. As he did, Charlie hit his overhead lights to begin the vehicle stop.
As the driver pulled his vehicle over, Charlie got a strange feeling about the occupant. Even though the stop was for a minor violation, Charlie sensed something more serious was going on besides a missing registration tag.
Charlie paid attention to his inner voice and orchestrated a non-approach vehicle contact. Instead of just walking up on the Mercury, he called for the driver to step out of the vehicle. Hanger watched the suspect exit his car. He had the man walk to the area between the squad and the Mercury.
When Charlie asked for the suspect’s driver’s license, the suspect reached for it. This movement alerted Hanger to the outline of a weapon impressed under the suspect’s jacket. During a verbal exchange, the suspect – now known to be Timothy McVeigh – admitted to having a weapon and said it was loaded.
Charlie had drawn his own weapon, and as he covered the suspect he replied, “So is mine.”
Charlie handcuffed McVeigh and discovered he had a .45 caliber Glock loaded with the devastating Black Talon rounds. McVeigh carried his Glock in a quick-draw “suicide holster.” Charlie’s search also revealed McVeigh had a spare magazine and a knife hidden on his person.
https://www.police1.com/terrorism/articles/police-history-how-trooper-charlie-hanger-caught-the-oklahoma-city-bomber-TOwns4jqYYH4Acet/
There goes alot of revenue for Chicago.
Defund the police and stop the police without saying it. Don't do shit.
That is THE most raggedy idea I’ve heard yet! Carry on, nothing to see here…
Can you pull them over if parts fall off the car?
Ranks right up there with the safety act legislation the roads have become do as you please with no repercussions and no consequences for driving like an asshole
The lib-tards call this "pretextual enforcement" whereby a sharp eyed copper notices someone breaking an actual law, then expounds on that stop to develop reasonable suspicion or probable cause.
In layman's terms "Don't dare stop our fellow democratic voters from the hood..."
OK, those of you who are LEOs, are the traffic stops this clown wants to ban the ones that some claim disproportionately target black drivers? Are people in “the communitay” unable to keep their vehicle registrations up to date, unable to drive the speed limit, unable to keep their vehicles in good operating condition, unable to obey basic traffic laws? If the legislator wants “the communitay” to be exempt from these laws, why doesn’t he propose legislation to get rid of the laws entirely? Or is it really the searches and the discovery of drugs, weapons, evidence of other crimes that tend to result from these traffic stops that he wants banned? Why have the laws at all if you aren’t going to enforce them?
How long before EVERY insurance company in the whole WORLD drops and will never write a policy in Illinois. What’s more, I believe State Farm calls Illinois home. They may as well move.
So you would hope that some of insurance providers would be first in line questioning this bill right? Oh never mind this their invitation to raise rates.
This type of legislation happens when politicians are beholden to gangbangers...
Like most of Cook County politicians.
DG in GA:
BINGO!
So does that mean I no longer have to pay the 151.00 extortion for a little sticker for my plates? I mean if the cops cannot stop me for no current sticker , why get one?
Inspectors still going to gig you
I endorse this bill...
Zero percent chance of this passing….
Awww, you think it’s STILL legit?!! That’s so cute! Good for you Officer!! Keep reaching for that rainbow!
12:14am don't be so sure. Other cities/states have passed similar laws banning these type of stops, you don't think the woke state legislature couldn't do the same here? Also Chicago is now run by progressives, the City Council could always pick up the baton from the state and pass city ordinances banning them. Tell me you don't think the goofs here couldn't do it
This Representative has zero common sense, and yet the morons of Illinois voted him in. My very first thought was that the Representative is a drug dealer, human trafficker, or a pedophile. Why else would he want to do something this stupid?
All the while, we let tens of thousands of impoverished people into a developed nation. It is only a matter of time before the economy collapses and we are forced into socialism.
This is great! Officers have been waiting for this for years! What will all the commanders do at the meetings when asked about tickets, arrest etc. Please vote this in! This makes my job easier! No more sgt’s, Lt’s, Capt’s or commanders yelling about their quotas, or I mean index’s. Vote stupid people in, get stupid results, thanks democrats !!!
More stupidity from Democrats again and again Democrats prove everything is wrong with anything that is lawful, they are for total lawlessness but then again like has been said numerous times how many of them are protected by platoons of police officers do you know like the governor, the Richie, Rich trust fund kid, the mayor states attorneys, Cook county board presidents how many more people they don’t care about the regular people they are for the Wallace because they are protected. So we can keep doing what we have been doing. Whatever we wanna drive down the highway any highway they are all like the autobahn go as fast as you want. Nobody stopping anybody even the troopers have figured it out. Why bother?
Dems want to turn USA into a third world shithole nation.
This is all about generating more red light and infraction cameras. Not to mention this guys counterpart on the safe-t act bill is under investigation for red light camera influence.
Like this, is going to change anything that many of us are doing anyway. Just drive around collect that nice paycheck bring your computers with your smart phones play on them all day responding to calls obeying all traffic laws. This department has become a joke anyway so why bother let the animals go after the animals just protect the homefront. Everything else is optional.
See, that guy who said you should stay in Illinois the other day was right! No rules, just right!
OT- BJ approves for cps to remove every cop from the schools. Man these people are really making this profession easier and easier by the day.
Gov. Fatty will certainly sign it. Moron will expand traffic camera capabilities to show he is doing something. Can't have a drop in plate revenue.
Where’s Missy the parking ticket guru to chime in on this issue?
This coupled with no foot or vehicular chases results in Thunderdome. A city in a garden?? More like a city in a rat hole.
Don't need to buy plates for your vehicles. Since they'll not be allowed to chase you.
What will the suburbs do for revenue?
All this because people of color dont want to play by the rules and therefore complain they are being targeted because of their race. And we all know that playing the race card in this state has the best odds.
The interesting thing about this change in law is that many guns , drugs and fugitives have been seized using minor IVC violations. These types of stops have helped reduce violence also because of the contraband that is seized during these stops. Justin Slaughter is obviously trying to keep his black constituents out of jail and on the street where they can continue to terrorize their communities. Good job Justin!!!
Hey Bud, I worked at Cook County Department of Corrections.Driving is dangerous thats why you need one in the chamber. Im not gonna let anyone take my wifes truck.I hope she lets me keep driving it. I think i pulled a muscle doing wall push ups in lockup, gonna have to call off.
City taking union dues out of last few uniform checks....are we getting reimbursed?
I thought the safety act did away with any resemblance of law and order? I’m honestly asking at this point, why even have law enforcement agencies in Illinois? Just have police stations open so people can walk in and make out a report. It will be more of an open air grievance facility because detectives will be rendered obsolete, along with every other cop. When you thought it couldn’t get any worse…
I bet his biggest campaign donors are drug dealers and gang bangers.
To the person running his yap about cst tracking a stolen car. Im very confused, we're they not supposed to track the car? Was the sgt wrong for telling them to be cautious? I don't get it. These shitheads are out there in these stolen cars robbing off duty coppers and our family members and you have a problem with the police going after them?? You sir are a coward. You've probably been a lazy POS your whole career. One of those guys that just shows up, stands around making up excuses about why you don't do police work. But I bet your sorry ass never turns down a free meal or police discount. Since you obviously heard the radio transmissions you're either assigned to 016 or 017. Or you're one of those goofs that listens to the scanner while off duty. Either way you're a coward MF. Next time you make a comment leave name so us CST guys know who thank for such wonderful insight.
Who is the absolute idiot trying to get this passed?
To the guy hating on CST, you sound like a big one chu chu train. Let me guess you submitted a packet for CST so you could get off midnights and they didn't take you so, now you have talk shit about them. Of course you have so much to say but you won't dare leave your name.
does that mean no traffic stops for any vehicle driving by or parking in front of all politicians' homes??
the law will state only traffic stops are allowed when the driver is white
"Wasn't Timothy McVeigh, murderer of 160 plus men, women, and children, apprehended as a result of a traffic stop for such a minor violation? I guess we have to let people like him go...."
It was 168 and, YES, that is how he was caught.
When he parked his getaway car a few blocks from the Murrah building, he pulled the plates.
He forgot to put them back on before heading back to KS.
He was pulled over by OHP for no plates. A gun was observed during the stop and he was tossed in the Noble county jail because he couldn't come up with the cash bail.
He was still there 3 days later when he was identified as the bomber.
The feds picked him up at the jail and his car from the shoulder of I-35.
This would be an opportunity for the LEO to pull someone over and charge them with reckless driving. Blowing a light or a stop sign or driving with excessive speed and weaving in and out of traffic is certainly reckless. Hook 'em up and book 'em Dano.
Never happen because the day after it passed nobody would keep plates on their car and the speed and red light cameras would not make money for blowiebaba and the fifty thieves.
Well I heard “Jake” from State Farm doesn’t approve of this legislation…but his cousin “Jaquarius” from Stateway Gardens does! {snicker}
How about we do a trial run. Start with the areas that elected the pos. Slaughter represents parts of the city of Chicago neighborhoods like Roseland, Morgan Park, and Beverly and parts of suburbs from Blue Island to Orland Park.
Fuck it. This is a dead end job now anyways. Who really cares anymore?
Is it just me, or is fop AWOP?? Great job guys, you’re really living up to that useless reputation.
The Peoples Republic of Urbana a few years ago decreed that certain areas of town were no vehicle stop areas. Stops signs, speed etc were all ignored. Made going across town easier. It was meant to appease the community who felt threatened for actually having to follow rules.
This would ultimately end 501’s.
This city is out of control. It's almost a weekly occurrence that I wake to an article about an off duty copper getting robbed. And I know that a few coppers family members have been robbed in 016 and 022. But what really disgust me is when other coppers bash the few working coppers left for doing their job. To guy on zone 1 bashing CST, I bet if it was your car stolen you would want them to move Heaven and Earth to get it back wouldn't you? Even worse, what if they just robbed your wife or mother? Guys like you are the reason we can't let our children out to play in the 016th district anymore. If you're so disgruntled why do t you just leave the job????
Officers who work where the sponsor of this bill lives/works should start pulling him over now while they can.
What is he hiding in his ride?
What are his family members hauling around?
What future transportation business is he planing?
Keep voting democrat, you will suffer.
This may the stupidest thing I've heard. Expired dates? Why have them then? 25 over posted limit? Why have any limit? These people are the dumbest of the dumb, yet the whole state could bankrupt you in a second. Imagine having to answer to this clown because he's the goobermunt, then think eventually you will...
By now it should have occurred to people (or folks) that the people in government making laws, know absolutely nothing about how laws affect society in general. They are completely out of touch with reality.
Any fool who votes to reelect any politician is also out of their mind...
https://www.ilga.gov/house/Rep.asp?MemberID=3104
What a name, the bills sponsor.
The ass hat that wrote this is the chairman of the committee so its not just going to die there. I see this getting to the floor of the house and hopefully there is enough of an outcry common sense kicks in and it gets voted down.
If this nonsense that’s being proposed gets passed will anyone living in Illinois be able to pay for car insurance ? Will car insurance be available for people living in Illinois ?
Anonymous said...
4562 Team and every other area CST team won’t get all that activity . 4562 telling his guys drive cautious whine tracking a car for a straight steal and maybe a shooting maybe a shooting .. From 016 , 017 , 014 on the Kennedy car bails back in 017 again and suddenly 4562 Adam is right behind it after they said they were nowhere near it .. Keep risking your livelihood for a CB number if they T-Boned a car catching up on the alleged pings who aren’t always accurate … let’s see the department commendation for that sucker .
1/31/2024 01:08:00 AM
Did someone take your Sweet Tarts off your desk during your potty break?
Seeing how people have been driving the last couple of years I thought that legislation had already passed.
Just pass a law that admits black people can't obey the law and be done with it. Fess up to the truth, assign black people some special class of citizenship that reflects their lawless nature, and move on. We can renamed something else for Jean Pointe Baptiste DuSable if that will make them feel better about their new second class status of citizenship.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is NOT a dumb idea. This is an absolutely outstanding idea and should be passed through the legislature unanimously, signed into law and take effect right away. Police should not pull over anybody, for any reason, EVER. I don't give a damn if they're flying through every red light running 88 miles an hour trying to go back in time to 1985 like Back to the Fucking Future. This common sense measure simply codifies into law what should be the case to begin with.
The people have spoken. They voted in people like this cretin legislator and many many like him, overwhelmingly. The people, the same majority of which who voted in goofs like this, hate law enforcement. They want to end a coppers career, imprison and ruin them financially if they so much as look at a criminal with a stern expression.
Fuck em. They demanded chaos, they voted for it, they insisted upon it. So give it to them.
1/31/2024 12:26:00 AM
For the person who posted this, is say "GREAT POST". These aldercreatures and racist mayors keep fucking with this once great city. I'm glad I have left. This place just sucks ass!
no cash bail
safety act
what's a few more unbeilievable laws the whacky crazy stupid progressives can think of???
oh yeah, don't forget to vote democratic!!! keep that stupid going
Ted Bundy got caught because of traffic violations.
"In August 1975 police attempted to stop Bundy for a driving violation. He aroused suspicion when he tried to get away by turning his car lights off and speeding through stop signs. When he was finally stopped his Volkswagon was searched, and police found handcuffs, an ice pick, crowbar, pantyhose with eye holes cut out along with other questionable items. They also saw that the front seat on the passenger side of his car was missing. Police arrested Ted Bundy on suspicion of burglary.
Police compared the things found in Bundy's car to those Carol DaRonch described seeing in her attacker's car. The handcuffs that had been placed on one of her wrists were the same make as those in Bundy's possession. Once DaRonch picked Bundy out of a line-up, the police felt they had enough evidence to charge him with attempted kidnapping. The authorities also felt confident they had the person responsible for the tri-state murder spree that had gone on for more than a year."
Of course now he wouldn't, even if this inane legislation isn't passed. Police cant chase.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Zero percent chance of this passing......
Years ago I would agree. Now the lefty loonies are in firm control of many states and cities. Look at how the New York city council is mandating documentations of every interaction.
https://nypost.com/2024/01/30/opinion/nyc-council-hates-cops-and-just-put-yet-another-nail-in-the-citys-coffin-with-how-many-stops-act/
Now we can get a bit closer to Tennessee where the loonies want to send police officers to jail for 14 years for failure to activate their body cameras.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/proposed-bill-could-add-extra-felony-charge-for-officers-guilty-of-not-turning-on-body-worn-cameras
The proposed Illinois bill will survive in some form or another. Ask for a lot knowing you will get something. Incrementalism. Mao et al. would be proud.
Turn police into criminals. Turn law abiding citizens into criminals. Goal of the Marxists.
All the invaders that they are importing...from third world shitholes..
...now want same type of policing ..third world police arrive after accident, murder...clean up...
no active police work...
Laws are racist....
Leave it up to local discretion. Let each alderman decide what laws are enforced in their ward and how aggressively.
Traffic stops are not "pretextual." If you have nothing else criminal going on in your car, the traffic stop is what it is: a traffic stop. It IS possible to be driving at night with your headlights off because you had a brain-fart and not be carrying or doing anything else illegal in/with your car. Could "pretextual" be defined as "I have something to hide?"
Let's expand on this proposal and abolish the Illinois SOS vehicle office while we're at it. No more waiting in lines to deal with the living dead flunkies.
Remember, driving is a privilege, not a right.
Wasn't Timothy McVeigh, murderer of 160 plus men, women, and children, apprehended as a result of a traffic stop for such a minor violation? I guess we have to let people like him go....
1/31/2024 01:14:00 AM
Yes, as was Ted Bundy (twice actually the first stop the trooper saw the mask, handcuffs etc on the seat after speeding and attempting to elude, 2nd time in FL after the escape was no headlights which became a stolen car)
This is the best news I've heard in years. I love telling people about the no-chase policies brought about by our elected officials. Everybody who runs our government is a person of color so they must be right.
So now I can do even LESS and get paid MORE ??
Great.. I'll be watching Reacher Season 2 on Amazon Prime as I sit in the hole.
RADICAL is not enought to describe this cretin. I wouldn't be surprised if some of this passes. Anything to relieve the pressure of the ghetto dwellers.
When it passed in Washington State I just knew it would eventually come here....More Soros sponsored payouts? How are the coppers in Washington holding up?
The gift that keeps on giving.
Sparklefarts and his TSS
* “This was more of a conversation starter,” Rep. Slaughter told me by phone today. “We won’t be moving it,” he said of his bill.
More of what he told me…
But I do plan to have the conversation about racial disparities. I think the narrative that I’m gonna put a lot of effort into is balance. Not necessarily taking away the tools from law enforcement to make traffic stops, which I get it, the current language is doing that. But the narrative that I would like folks to know is that you don’t want to take away tools for law enforcement to make traffic stops, but at the same time, what is the approach and interventions that law enforcement can make that t least acknowledge racial disparities, and fairness and equity as it relates to these traffic and pedestrian stops.
So, my energy and my efforts, to your question, is to generate the discussion. Now, out of respect for law enforcement, out of respect for law-abiding citizens, it was not my intention to get this reaction. But I certainly understand it because of the broadness of what was reflected in the language.
Please pardon any transcription errors.
* He also pointed to these 2023 WBEZ stories as the reason why the conversation must be had…
* Traffic stops of Black Illinois drivers at 20-year high despite law Obama championed: The racial gap is widening. In the last two years, the number of traffic stops involving Black drivers has topped 30.5% of all stops statewide, up from 17.5% in 2004, the first year data was released. The state’s adult population is 13.6% Black.
They forgot to add the magic mantra "for officer safety" to this. Once that enchanted phrase is in any proposed law, it sails through and gets signed without critical examination.
What Illinois' elected "representatives" who support this legislation fail to realize is, traffic stops are the basis of a lot of good, aggressive police work. One example: Anyone here heard of a guy named Timothy McVeigh?
No, he knows exactly what he’s doing and is doing it to end this type of enforcement, claiming it unfairly targets people of color. I wonder if all the good people of color in these areas that are being terrorized daily feel the same ? If so, then so-be-it. You get what you voted for ..
Sadly, it’s the legit good people who will once again suffer, as always …
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0110 SAYS:
What this is doing is actually taking away probable cause to stop a motor vehicle, further handcuffing police from doing their full duty. It is designed solely to hinder police and to aid and abbet criminal behavior, and to allow criminals to be able to more successfully use motor vehicles to transport contraban, including themselves. The overall benefit is solely for those involved in criminal activity with zero benefit to the general public needing protection by police. Any politician or Law Enforcement Agency or Official who stands behind this is truly an encourager of criminals and criminal behavior, and proponent for the endangerment of the general public.
What is the purpose(s) of vehicle registration/license plates?
Besides revenue for relevant government agencies?
1. Proof of current valid identity of current valid owner(s).
2. All of the resulting relevancies of having said proof, both to valid owners, law enforcements, insurers, etc.
3. That's it.
So, the ommision of law requiring vehicle registration/license plates is moot for those benefitted by voluntary compliance with said law.
For the owners, not complying = no insurers will issue insurance policy. Also, no lender will finance purchase of vehicle sans insurance. Also, no business, such as uber, will contract without insurance. And so on....
Thus, no enforcement of registration/licensing is more effective than business/owner self interest in complying.
All the above does not apply to the hooptie owners. The not real property/home owners. The traditionally unemployed. The feeding from the welfare trough. The illegally invading trespassers. The non owners of vehicles. In short form, all the residents not vested, in any responsible way, in being here.
These are this elected mutt's constituencies.
Any questions?
That’s awesome! When I visit Illinois, as soon as I cross the border I’m pulling over and taking off my plates! No more TOLLS or Red light, speeding tickets!
Justin Slaughter is that idiot asshole state rep that co sponsored the anti police get out of jail free card legislation, along with that fat crooked senator Elgie Sims, who is under an active FBI investigation for getting kickbacks from a body cam company doing business with Illinois. Sims lives in 006, Slaughter has an office on 95th around Loomis--- BOTH shitholes. What are they thinking?
Slaughter is the protege of former state rep Monique Davis, who gained notoriety after stealing a statute from Chicago State University. She's been an police hater for years.
Cut off all alcohol and weed in Springfield. They do this they there will truly be no need for police. More then way to defund the police. This passes and you stay on the job hope you get exactly what you deserve.
Can’t chase in auto or on foot, no prosecution for few criminals actually happy caught no no traffic stops. Who needs you? Laws of the jungle will apply.
The bill was withdrawn today. From IACP:
Chief Maton and I have had be in communication with the sponsor of HB4603, Rep. Justin Slaughter, over the past couple of days to express our concerns and issues with the bill and how it would negatively impact traffic safety and public safety as a whole. Early this morning I received a call from Rep. Slaughter who stated he understood our concerns and issues and stated the bill was “too broad” and that he would not be calling it.
He thanked us (ILACP) for taking time to reach out to him and educate him on our issues and concerns and apologized for how the process played out. He stated ILACP would be invited to participate in any future conversations, should they arise.
My plates and city sticker expire soon. Yeahhhh I’ll hold off on renewing those until I see how this plays out
Oh no what will the traffic cars I mean tact teams be doing get ready to turn in your skinny jeans boys and girls
Unfortunately the neighborhoods that will suffer the most will be the 99% of the hard working and law abiding African Americans being held hostage in their own homes and feasted on by the urban terrorists that destroy their neighborhoods. It’s Anarchy pure and simple.
So, this basically is an end to a lot of probable cause to stop a vehicle. What next, no Barnes stops???
I hope and pray anyone that votes or supports this insanity has his he or his family get T-Boned by a vehicle with no identifiers and the officers can’t chase them. Until it effects them personally they all just eat a Soros sponsored bag of dicks.
Coming soon: the Democratic Party has penned new legislation that allows any African American or any illegal alien can do pretty much ANYTHING they want to do W/ incentives to attacking whites, taxpayers & anyone who works for a living. They (The Demorats) know that the more they allow non demonizing tires & career criminals to do whatever they want the closer we come to a civil war……. Which is why Gov. Fatass wants the guns these politicians want to literally flip the script. What they don’t realize is when 100% of the population needs the Gov. Cheese there won’t be enough to go around. I believe it was the Harvard chick Ms. Gay who said “the problem with Socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money” & she said quote me bitches
The John Jay School of Criminal Justice in New York has done research in the past that showed a strong link between criminals and their behavior and operating of motor vehicles. That is something the liberals do not want to talk about. I don't think this proposal will become law, but you never know in Illinois, the middle America land of fruits and nuts led by Gove Fatass.
We've all been partnered up with guys who will find a reason to pull someone over. The cat and mouse game will never end. Just gotta get more resourceful. If they keep playing checkers, don't bitch about it. Just play chess.
SCC:
A few points for the fool talking shit about CST.
I’m a TAC guy who knows these guys, not CST, but here’s by 2 cents FWIW….. First, it was the 4563 team and their sgt who busted their asses for that job. The 4562 team and their sgt don’t do shit except lock up people without a valid dl or having a false TRP. same for the 4561 team who walk around like their shite don’t stank to hi hell. Let’s give them a round of applause btw… What do you want these guys to do instead, write parking tickets all night? our families are being attacked, our cars are being stolen, our houses burglarized, tax paying businesses robbed. I have a family in 016 and I’m grateful they’re putting cuffs on the right peoples
You upset that you never got anywhere besides a late car on a crappy beat cuz you never applied yourself? No one called u back on the 20 NOJOs you applied for because you’ve always been a dog? wife and kids hate you, disgruntled fuck?
i dont slam the dogs on this job even tho 80% of the place don’t do shit but dont slam the workers out there either. Someone has to keep the city livable for our kids
No license plates, tinted windows, no tail lights, broken or no mirrors. 35mph over the limit, no sticker, weaving, and generally driving like an idiot. All this to be made a non sequitur because it supposedly singles out blacks.
Doesn't this mean they want this because mostly black people are cited for the infractions listed? Whats next legalize drive bys and looting?
8:07am you HAVE to be backward hat, 5-11 wearing self proclaimed supercop with a few yrs on the job lol. The prob with this scenario junior is we who have time on the job played that "tracking and following" game and it doesnt fly anymore. Try telling that story at your deposition right after you list your assets if someone is hurt or killed in the process of your "following." Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and that's exactly what you hardchargers were doing, what happens when the car takes off on you......will you chase it in defiance of G.O since uts merely an auto theft? Once again tell that at your deposition if someone is injured
Black Supremacist.
When he parked his getaway car a few blocks from the Murrah building, he pulled the plates. He forgot to put them back on before heading back to KS.
1/31/2024 08:24:00 AM
Last I read, the OSP Trooper observed the rear plate (Arizona) was improperly and loosely attached with a piece of wire and was flapping in the breeze created by the motion of the vehicle, plus the plate was expired. McVeigh was certainly a ruthless mass-murderer, but I did not know he was not smart enough or saavy enough to re-attach the plate. Either way, the OSP Trooper is deserving of the utmost respect for their LEO skills and dedication to duty.
Justin Slaughter…what a maroon!
SCC, here is a question? So, if we, as sworn law enforcement officers, as part of our job was traffic enforcement, now becomes illegal to stop a car for speeding, how is it legal that a camera can still write tickets to speeders?? whats the difference?? Oh, I can tell ya, its because the cameras are not RACIST!!!!
Lets not stop anyone swerving across lanes, cant stay in a lane because they are impaired or have no lights on at night..lets not be pro-active instead lets wait until they hit and kill someone or a family before WE can do anything legally!!! What a fucking joke.
The State of Illinois legislature has always been suspected of self-inflicted lunacy. This is prima facia evidence of said lunacy. With no traffic enforcement and the proliferation of illegal guns, the Safe-t Act, a horse shit Crook County Criminal Justice System, illegal aliens by the thousands not only make Chicago a shitty city but now, Illinois has turned into a shitty state (which most of us knew all along).
Ted Bundy was caught again from a traffic stop. He was speeding in a stolen car.
Bill withdrawn. Trial balloon to see how far they can go. Incrementalism is what they do. This is not over by a long shot. The cultural revolution continues. Mao
It’s PRT now dog ass. If you’re going to talk shit at least get the name and the beat correct.
Ted Bundy was caught by minor traffic violations, same with David Berkowitz, and Timothy McVeigh. Come on! Granted traffic stops are probably one of the most deadly encounters for officers along with domestic violence response. But I highly doubt this legislation is designed for officer safety reasons. Legislators and "Stakeholders" involved in the Criminal Justice System need to stop being lobbyists for criminals and their "allies." These are the same people who cry foul once they are elected or crime affects them personally. Granted CPD and the City does a horrible, horrendous job of training CPD and providing counseling and fair job advancement, preferring to keep political hires, promotions and management incompetence covered up even if it means keeping officers at risk and overworked and hiding corruption. But, this is not the solution!
Simple, don't do a fucking thing. Why are coppers so dumb when it comes to understanding whats going on with the ways of policing? It's because these westernized countries are coddling criminals to illegals to sway the votes to change laws and policies. You really think policing is going to get better here? Nope. Fatty and Conehead are making sure you see jail time for doing your job. You got shot and killed on-duty by a shitbag? Yeah Kim Foxxs ghetto counsel will get the cop killer a plea deal to see his senior days play out. Stop fucking doing anything unless you, your partner, or your families life is in danger. The people have spoken, give these Section 8 hoodtrash what they wanted. Give these woke commies what they want. Stop doing a fucking thing that's not harming YOU, YOUR family, or YOUR PARTNER. How hard is that?! This is the same state who voted in the safety act overnight, same state who is trying to arbitation thrown out for police(when it's state law), the same fucking state that will claim itself a sancuatry state when they DON'T want the migrants here. GET A FUCKING CLUE, the last 5 years has shown you big government hates you, especially if you're the police.
2/01/2024 02:04:00 AM
Yes! Couldnt have said it better.
8:07am you HAVE to be backward hat, 5-11 wearing self proclaimed supercop with a few yrs on the job lol. The prob with this scenario junior is we who have time on the job played that "tracking and following" game and it doesnt fly anymore. Try telling that story at your deposition right after you list your assets if someone is hurt or killed in the process of your "following." Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and that's exactly what you hardchargers were doing, what happens when the car takes off on you......will you chase it in defiance of G.O since uts merely an auto theft? Once again tell that at your deposition if someone is injured
Actually I believe I'm of the "Hair gel" generation. And I've had my fair share of law suits and CRs, and I've never been punished for doing the right thing. These officers were not pursuing this car, they had the victim on the phone giving constant updates. Perhaps if you weren't half asleep in your hole you would have heard that on the radio.
Have to love watching dogs call out a working team only for a “tac guy” to call out teams that work but aren’t willing to die on the CPD cross to appease the community ala Stillman. So is it do a bunch do some or do nothing at all? I’m really not sure anymore
Well I have long thought our highways should be a free for all ... Homicidial lesbians driving Macks... Old ladies driving Reagan era Fords ... The dope adleled ... Drunks ... The blind
SCC, here is a question? So, if we, as sworn law enforcement officers, as part of our job was traffic enforcement, now becomes illegal to stop a car for speeding, how is it legal that a camera can still write tickets to speeders?? whats the difference?? Oh, I can tell ya, its because the cameras are not RACIST!!!!
💡 🦶 thought cameras were racist catching people driving 9mph over speed limit
So 💡 foot 🦶 made driving 6mph over speed limit a violation to fine 💰💰💰Asian Hispanics and Caucasians
Who be the racist. No interviews to whitey
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