Wait...What? The Name?
We think the entire intent of this article is to change the name of a law? While claiming police are bad of course
In the midst of a partly cloudy October afternoon in 2022, Jesse Green dashed out the door of his home. Dragging luggage in one hand and clutching onto a sandwich, jacket and firearm in the other, Green hurriedly made his way to the back of his parked vehicle.
As executive director of the North Lawndale Community Coordinating Council, Green was running late for his trip to the Illinois Main Street Conference in downstate Bloomington — looking forward to furthering his knowledge in community and economic development.
He loaded his luggage into the trunk, where he usually stores his firearm whenever he travels. But in his rush, he forgot to place his gun in its case. Instead, after closing the trunk, he quickly got into the driver’s seat and dropped some of the items in his hands, including his jacket and his firearm, into the passenger seat.
Notice who the offender is about to be. We underlined it so you don't miss it. Note, by his own admission, he is currently in violation of the law. Period. Full stop.
Before he had made it out of the North Lawndale community, Green found himself stuck in traffic. He turned down a one-way street — in the wrong direction — to avoid the congestion and passed by a Chicago Police car, which made a quick U-turn, flashing its red and blue lights, and pulled him over.
During the traffic stop, while reaching for his license and proof of insurance, Green noticed the butt of his gun underneath his jacket in the passenger seat and informed the officer. “Hey, I have my weapon, and it’s in the seat,” he told the officer, who then instructed Green to step out of the vehicle.
Leaving aside the fact that CPD squads don't have red lights, while in violation of Weapons statute, he commits a traffic violation in full view of the police. Then he admits to the cops (who haven't even requested a search at this point), that his gun is on the seat, immediately accessible, loaded and uncased. The article says so, but twists it into a critique of....cops doing their job AND the name of the law:
Since his gun was not stored properly and Green did not have a concealed carry license, he was arrested for aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, a felony charge that could lead to one to three years in prison.
Green is among a growing number of people in Cook County who have been arrested for unlawful use of a weapon resulting from a traffic stop. The increase has emboldened civil rights advocates who have long criticized how Chicago Police use traffic stops and has renewed efforts to rename unlawful use of a weapon charges.
Um....how did cops "use [a] traffic stop"? He drove the wrong way down the street in front of them and they did exactly what cops are authorized to do. Then the "executive director" volunteered that he had a weapon close at hand. He was detained, transported, processed and will get his day in court.
UUW is one of those charges that cops DO NOT have discretion on. You find a gun and someone in possession of said weapon, they better appear on an arrest report, there better be a case report, an inventory number, a call to the gun desk, sergeant and lieutenant signatures on the arrest report, and a call to Crimesha's office for approval (or disapproval) of charges.
Any one of those missing, and a cop is looking at suspension time. A number of years back, we know of a bunch of cops who were suspended, fired and faced charges of their own for making deals on the street regarding weapons. We also know of someone who made commander of 025 after being caught with a number of weapons in his locker on the west side, and you can search through our archives and comment sections for the history of Escamerit.
But all of this seems mainly to criticize CPD and the name of the law - Unlawful Use of a Weapon - along with the felony charge that goes with it.
NEWSFLASH for WBEZ - CPD didn't pass the law, name the law or sign the law. And enforcing the law is kind of the job of cops everywhere, regardless of every leftist effort to have cops not enforce any laws, especially in the ghettos where crime is rampant.
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These are the same people that are opposed to constitutional carry
I thought WBEZ was using this article as an opportunity to inform the public to set an alarm , use time management skills, obey traffic laws, or simply case a firearm up for safe keeping as IL law spells out.
Oh no. It was about how to be lazy, ignorant, self centered, & have a child like responsibility to be successful.
The message is: I know somebody & this law sucks, but I won anyway in the court of public opinion. & then in court regardless of the written law.
Now let's all bash the police.
I guess wbez never heard of impulse shootings , stolen guns , road rage, training to earn a right to ccl or a host of other reasons a firearm shouldn't be on your car seat. Whatever, let's stop all traffic stops searches because some idiot can't manage his own life.
Seriously it was the only time he ever carried inside the driver compartment uncased, winkwink.
This WBEZ article reminded me of the BS, sob story, "somehow everything that is mentioned doesn't quite add up" articles that would show up in the Chicago Reader.
Yes, used to be four hefty sections of hardcopy print, learn to code, bitches!
1. “…Green was running late…”
2. “…he forgot to place his gun in its case…”
3. “He turned down a one-way street — in the wrong direction — to avoid the congestion and passed by a Chicago Police car…”
This guy is a bad planner and poor decision maker. He created this situation himself. This was totally about HIM. He's unfit to be executive director of the rubber dog shit concession at a novelty conference.
We have to do something about the gun violence. I bet this guy is all for the democrats push for more and more gun laws. SMH
I'm a civilian. Worked in the ghetto for 30 years. Never once carried a gun or knife or bazooka or anything else to work. Not once due to the severity of chicago laws. Uuw,lose the gun and maybe the car. Lawyer fees.nice stay in county ? No thanks. But certain peeps can just say oops I forgot and it's all good ? Time to throw away that blind scales of justice bullshit. Every law depends on who you is,who you knows and what you be like. Fukdat, I can't wait to get out of this socialist shithole and take my sizeable tax money with me. Fubu land.
The absolute stupidity of liberals is endless. Ignoring all the other shit, where he clearly breaks the law several times, let's discuss his weapon safety. He carries his gun in the same hand as his jacket and a sandwich, and then forgets to put it in its case in his trunk? Right! I believe that. Then he tosses the sandwich, jacket, and gun onto his car seat, still not realizing there's an unsecured and loaded firearm sitting there? How does one handle a firearm so ignorantly as to forget he's carrying it and toss it around with other random items? Did someone actually get charges approved for an Agg UUW just because the gun was on the seat? That's impressive in this county and city. I'm thinking there was more to it that they're purposely leaving out. If you plan on traveling with a gun in your car, and you plan on doing it legally by securing it in a case in the trunk, it should be unloaded and in that case before you leave your house. You don't get a grace period while you trek to your car with a gun and sandwich tucked under your arm. This felon fully intended to travel with a firearm within the passenger compartment of his vehicle. He most likely tucked it under the jacket in the seat once he realized he was going to be pulled over by the police for driving the wrong way down a one way street. He then noticed it was visible and told the police he had it, which was the ONLY thing he did right. But we're supposed to feel sorry for him, because he's a moron and he's black? He gets no sympathy from me, and I don't believe his story one bit.
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1. Do not drive down one-way street in the wrong direction.
2. No do this, no get stopped by police.
3. Finito.
If we take WBEZ's reporting at face value, then this really is exactly what most gun laws are meant to accomplish - to strew the legal landscape with a minefield of technicalities so that ordinary, honest citizens will decline to arm themselves, lest they be ruined over a moment's inattention to some obscure rule.
But I don't buy his story. Why would anybody, as they pack for a road trip, carry the case to the car, carry the pistol to the car, and pack the one into the other at the car? That's like carrying the empty suitcase to the car, then hauling out clothes to pack into it. The reason that makes sense is that he intended from the start to have the pistol out and accessible.
get a CCL you lazy fucking cocksucker and stop blaming everyone else for #1 your laziness and #2 your absolute stupidy for leaving it on the front seat.
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it's always ALWAYS someone else's fault
SCC you da real poleece who knows how to handle bidness & I luv it!!!
*update* refer to amc msg's and related order(s) no longer calling in seized/recovered only lost/stolen *there are some exceptions
Ps to quote a wonderfully nice and unbiased female Sgt "don't forget to do your eLearning" boy I'm gonna miss here ♡
Very similar to president Trumps bloodbath comment, he was literally talking about electric cars being shoved down our throats, but the mainstream media is putting their own spin on it 🤔🤔🤔
These are the same woke liberal loons that want child predators called minor attracted persons.
And another glowing example of not calling something what it really is, is Joe Biden was embarrassed into mentioning the homicide of Laken Riley the Univ. of Georgia nursing student by Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene at the State of The Union Address. And when he did mention her he called her Lincoln instead of Laken. He said she was killed by an illegal.
Laken Riley was killed by an illegal alien from Venezuela he beat her head with a blunt object and hid her body. Two days after the SOTU Biden was interviewed by the news and said he never should have called Riley’s killer an illegal but an undocumented.
So now we have the President of the US regretting calling a criminal illegal alien an illegal. It should be noted Biden never called the family of Laken Riley to apologize for getting her name wrong or to comfort them. He is more interested in comforting the criminal.
One of the tricks of the Left is changing the meaning of words.
From cradle to the grave they are conditioned to believe that they’re victims and it’s somebody else fault. Fascinating, isn’t it?
They always have an excuse, “I was running late.” Well boo fricken who. We don’t follow the rules and they want to fire us or charge us with a crime. They don’t follow the rules and they want a pass again and again. They’re so used to being given everything that they don’t have to follow rules. See where the problem starts and only gets worse. Social promotions in school. Affirmative action jobs. DEI promotions etc etc. your not helping them by handing them by GIVING them everything.
A little off topic, but now the governor has decided that all juveniles must have a lawyer when questioned by the police what are you folks going to do with all your spare time? It seems to me that means patrol officers won’t be questioning kids, which means fewer arrests, and those who are arrested won’t be questioned even by the depts because no public defender is going to allow the kids to questioned.
The idea is to prevent false confessions, but in action it will mean no confessions.
Why does he need a weapon to attend a "community" conference?
Hey, I’m a little afraid of how things work in Chicago.
I’m looking for some advice from you coppers.
I’m a honorably retired cop who will traveling to your city. I have my retired ID and a letter from my former agency that I have qualified and am entitled to carry a concealed weapon under the federal statute.
In the very unlikely event that I might have contact with the PD/SO will my ID and letter keep out of the Stoney lonesome?
"Clutching onto a sandwich, jacket and firearm" doesn't sound like safe handling.
26 states have constitutional carry. As I have said before, FOID is racist. Ghosts guns were banned due to the perception that white maga folks carried them. in reality, who is carrying them
Let’s get rid of the FOID card.
yea, but according to the dems and libs all black people are allowed to break the laws and rules that white people have to obey,,,there, now go back to work, there are millions of illegals depending on your tax dollars.
Motorist just feels like driving down the street in the wrong direction. Laws are racist.
The 2nd Amendment says everybody has a right to possess firearms.
Just figure in todays world everyone is packing heat that bees the way it bees and when you get pinched for some bogus ass shit don’t fucking start whining about it guilty as charged
A lot of sergeants are pissed off. Because our salary is only $3000 more than a detective. Detectives make more than us if you add in all of the overtime they supposedly work. If you know what I mean.
It's time that we received a better compensation package. Pay us more for the important work we are all doing. To the haters- I'm a good sergeant who takes care of my officers.
Don't say peeps.
Was he able to finish his sandwich?
Most importantly
What kinda sammich he had?
Kim Foxie will dismissed the case already
The increase has emboldened civil rights advocates who have long criticized how Chicago Police use traffic stops and has renewed efforts to rename unlawful use of a weapon charges.
If you follow the rules of the road and if you don’t have contraband in your vehicle you will never have to worry about getting stopped by the police. Very simply put. Period.
Anonymous said...
A lot of sergeants are pissed off. Because our salary is only $3000 more than a detective. Detectives make more than us if you add in all of the overtime they supposedly work. If you know what I mean.
It's time that we received a better compensation package. Pay us more for the important work we are all doing. To the haters- I'm a good sergeant who takes care of my officers.
3/18/2024 07:15:00 AM
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I only took the Sgt. bump for the last four years of my career so I could have the Sgt. pension. Those four years were horrible. I took about a $75,000 a year cut and pay from the Detective division.
Coming from a guy that has done both jobs, your job is not that big of a deal Sgt. Be happy with what you have kid.
Hell I never even got the IROCC and still carry
To put a different spin on it, the article describes what's wrong with so many people:
lack of respect for firearms and gun law, self-entitlement (I'm LATE so I'm entitled to go down a once way street to save 5 minutes on a three hour drive), and victim mentality. It also shows how fucked up certain communities are that all of this is justified to be/stay successful.
“Pay us more for the important work we are all doing.”
More important work? You are an adult babysitter. Make sure the people on your log come clear from their jobs and approve reports. That versus working cases and bringing them to trial?
A little off topic, but now the governor has decided that all juveniles must have a lawyer when questioned by the police what are you folks going to do with all your spare time? It seems to me that means patrol officers won’t be questioning kids, which means fewer arrests, and those who are arrested won’t be questioned even by the depts because no public defender is going to allow the kids to questioned.
The idea is to prevent false confessions, but in action it will mean no confessions.
3/18/2024 05:35:00 AM
I've been on 21 years. Patrol officers have never been able to question a juvenile. An advocate(Youth Detective) had to be present. Scary you didn't know that.
You must be a sergeant in Oak Lawn or Alsip. The last time I checked Chicago sergeants make about 9,000 more than detectives.
Are idiots like this guy the reason legislators in Springfield want to prevent the police from arresting certain people for traffic violations? It sounds like this guy thinks driving the wrong way on a one-way street is an acceptable choice when trying to avoid a traffic jam. If he thinks it’s acceptable, I suspect he must do it a lot. Do we add this to the list of bad driving habits a certain demographic engages in that the police should now stop enforcing because too many “people of color” end up with drug and weapons charges after being pulled over for driving like an idiot?
26 states have constitutional carry.
Recheck your numbers. It is not 26. It's 29.
Speaking of the rehire program, are they going to implement a rehire program for the dispatchers who are about to get fired? I need my sidepiece to take care of me so that I do not get any jobs while I am working. I am married but my sidepiece dispatcher really understands me.
Pistoles, Rifles and Knifes OH My!
Warlord Brandon Johnsoms junta robbed 13 people on Saturday in a recently designated neighborhood named Little Haiti on Chicago's north west side
The democrat proxy army squad of five military style black domestic terrorist offenders are thought to be prior felons on parole we tried reaching out to the CCOSAA (Cook Co. Office of States Attorney Accountability) for comment but the CCOSAA was unavailable and did not respond (because there isn't one)
Conehead is expected to order law abiding citizen to shelter in place for freedom as the Juntas operations proceed
I left the CPD to work in a suburban department. I had 8 years with the CPD. I worked two years with the suburban department. I just got rehired by the CPD. Does anyone know if I have earned 8 years towards the pension or do I get credit for the 2 years that I worked for the suburban department and have earned 10 years towards the pension. I hope that I only have to work 10 more years.
Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
He's important. He can disobey laws apparently.
If someone was hit-killed, "where were the police?"
WBEZ "fact based news & information." When did that start?
Was in Iowa and flipped through the dial. Landed on NPR. All I hear was "racist" in everything from car choices (low rider cars) to video games (creative Dots home game)
"The game tackles housing inequality, gentrification, racism, and generational trauma with elegance and empathy. Within one hour, a playthrough of Dot's Home is complete, but the impact of the ...."
CBC in Canada. ALL they talk about is racism. (Trudeau's Canada....)
https://cbc.radio-canada.ca
When is race relevant? - CBC/Radio-Canada
This is blatant bias and anti-white racism by the public broadcaster. You said that CBC programmers should remove the article and apologize. MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. Shiral Tobin, the Director of Journalism and Programming for CBC British Columbia, responded to your complaint, and defended the report..."
Can you imagine the WBEZ-Times, public radio, in addition to FB, Tik-Tok being your main form of news?
It gets old, but there's one good thing!
The average CPD student would take 4 hours to get through the 3 syllable words!
When the DNC comes to town tac teams will be called brandon Johnson regeim goon squads ordered to carry out SS and SA like activities
Anonymous said...
Hey, I’m a little afraid of how things work in Chicago.
I’m looking for some advice from you coppers.
I’m a honorably retired cop who will traveling to your city. I have my retired ID and a letter from my former agency that I have qualified and am entitled to carry a concealed weapon under the federal statute.
In the very unlikely event that I might have contact with the PD/SO will my ID and letter keep out of the Stoney lonesome?
3/18/2024 05:48:00 AM
If you are white and shoot a black offender trying to rob you then our democRATic politicians and prosecutors will charge you with a felony, if you are black and shoot anyone trying to rob you then you will be safe
Get your applications in for COMMANDER!!! Due before 27 March! POs with more than 10 years welcome to apply!
Just like a dude told me when i pinched him for pointing his gun from his car.
Told me the FOID Card is racist…
Look how Illinois screws over the law abiding citizens.. Foid, no high capacity magazines or weapons.
It will be interesting to see how this is prosecuted or dismissed. If he was a 'youth' or similar and a first gun violation (also no CCL, nor a FOID.., possibly under suspicious circumstances), nothing would happen as it would be dropped immediately. But given this is a community leader (and even though he made a really stupid mistake with no malice nor criminal intent) I wonder if the standards shift, just to make an example out of him?
Pat yourself on your own back sgt. I call bs on all the hard work you sgt are doing , what logging units at their jobs . Go blow your own horn if you know what i mean !!!!🎺🎺
“UUW is one of those charges that cops DO NOT have discretion on.”
I respectfully beg to differ. Maybe not currently, but there used to be discretion on EVERYTHING before GPS and BWC’s.
Spent many, many years in 015, 011, 025 etc in the late 80’s thru the 90’s. I’ve given plays to old timers who lived in the area and were literally prisoners in their own neighborhood. Walking or riding a bike to the corner store or fishing in one of the local lagoons, these men were/are not the problem with “gun violence”. Almost all of these men were veterans with no type of criminal background to speak of. They deserved the benefit of the doubt; not every dude with a pistol had to be a CB number. The furthest I ever went was taking the rounds out of a pistol before handing it back to the gentleman. The diapers on the job today haven’t a clue how much respect and “street cred” treating people right will get you. Mind you, this is while assigned to one of the biggest number producing units ever long before all these feel good orders on how to be the Pussy Police were issued.
This person should never have been arrested. A gun? Cool. Everyone should have one. Even convicted felons. The right to bear arms is an unassailable right given to us by God, and God only! Fuck Illinois and it’s anti- 2nd Amendment tyranny. Freedom!
In the very unlikely event that I might have contact with the PD/SO will my ID and letter keep out of the Stoney lonesome?
3/18/2024 05:48:00 AM
Being a retired cop, you should already know that this very unlikely event is easily transformed into an impossible event by your own decisions.
I expect KC Chiefs Kicker Harrison Butker to be released or traded soon. He actually called out the lack of Fathers as to being the cause of the KC Parade Shooting. I’m still waiting on the release of the mugshots on the news 24/7 or ANYONE from the NFL or team to speak on it. How quick were these idiots to take a knee but how silent are they to call out the actual problem to stand up and just raise their(82 % of all violent crimes) damn kids. Not rocket science Democrats.
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"Clutching onto a sandwich, jacket and firearm" doesn't sound like safe handling.
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It was a 6-inch Subway Tuna sandwich.
Aka: Jesse Smollett special.
Sure Sgt. you take care of your officers so you think? Such important work, you babysit. Don't think you are so important lol. Detectives do more important work than you ever will. That is working Detective's, not the meritorious type.
Sure Sgt. you take care of your officers so you think? Such important work, you babysit. Don't think you are so important lol. Detectives do more important work than you ever will. That is working Detective's, not the meritorious type.
On a seperate note in the 45th ward the second coming of john arena is running for democrat committeman . His name is Rabbitt and he even worse than arena huge advocate of public housing in ward. Of course he lives in all white edgebrook but wants it for jeff gladstone park. Please vote for joe cook he the normal guy. If u usually take repub ballot please take democratic just this one time and vote for Cook and Burke. Thanks
Stop locking people up on the westside!
It does NOTHING!
CPD should be required to contact the governor for the approval of any gun charges.
The governor should really clarify this error in the state law.
After all he wants gun laws charged to the full extent of the law no matter if it occurs in north lawndale or Wilmette right JB???
Does his ethnicity have anything to do with this change in the law? Asking for a friend...
I don’t see why you are asking about your pension after being rehired. Nobody knows and you will probably get 5 different answer
On the rehire website they won’t answer any pension questions and to directly call the pension board. They are the only ones that know
Why assimilate when you can adjudicate?
I left the CPD to work in a suburban department. I had 8 years with the CPD. I worked two years with the suburban department. I just got rehired by the CPD. Does anyone know if I have earned 8 years towards the pension or do I get credit for the 2 years that I worked for the suburban department and have earned 10 years towards the pension. I hope that I only have to work 10 more years.
3/18/2024 10:02:00 AM
Call the pension fund but no, you’ve to make up those two years. So now you’re stuck an extra two years.
The difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives tell the truth of how they think. You may not like it but you know their position. Liberals, on the other hand, have to make up stories and embellish to try and support their position. Thank God for Body Cameras to show the truth but even then most liberals just bury their head in the sand and do not want to believe the truth.
Go Trump
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Sure Sgt. you take care of your officers so you think? Such important work, you babysit. Don't think you are so important lol. Detectives do more important work than you ever will. That is working Detective's, not the meritorious type.
3/18/2024 02:47:00 PM
Lol. What a stroke. Try babysitting for a day see how you like it. You would run back to the Area in heartbeat. For that reason an alone, the job deserves a significantly higher pay. Unfortunately for you, jealously will rest it's ugly head again when the Sgts contact is settled. Till then bask in the glory of stretching out in custody jobs by sleeping at home, taking a second two hour lunch and working out for time and half. Don't worry big guy, I wont rub my 30k retro check in your sad lil face.
More important work? You are an adult babysitter. Make sure the people on your log come clear from their jobs and approve reports. That versus working cases and bringing them to trial?
3/18/2024 09:02:00 AM
You ever tried babysitting a bunch of grown, entitled morons with guns? Actual detective work is hard and I respect it. Let's not pretend you're always working on a case to go to trial. What percentage of your cases actually go to trial? Exactly.
I left the CPD to work in a suburban department. I had 8 years with the CPD. I worked two years with the suburban department. I just got rehired by the CPD. Does anyone know if I have earned 8 years towards the pension or do I get credit for the 2 years that I worked for the suburban department and have earned 10 years towards the pension. I hope that I only have to work 10 more years.
3/18/2024 10:02:00 AM
You want credit for paying into the pension for the two years you didn't pay into the pension? Make smarter career choices and you won't have to hope so much. Welcome back.
It will be interesting to see how this is prosecuted or dismissed. If he was a 'youth' or similar and a first gun violation (also no CCL, nor a FOID.., possibly under suspicious circumstances), nothing would happen as it would be dropped immediately. But given this is a community leader (and even though he made a really stupid mistake with no malice nor criminal intent) I wonder if the standards shift, just to make an example out of him?
3/18/2024 12:25:00 PM
He didn't make a mistake. He willfully chose to blatantly disregard the law several times, and then made up a story for WBEZ to tell. They don't make examples out of black gun offenders. He'll get probation or they'll drop the charges. Maybe he'll get traffic school or something.
There's always an exception or excuse for this group.
“UUW is one of those charges that cops DO NOT have discretion on.”
I respectfully beg to differ. Maybe not currently, but there used to be discretion on EVERYTHING before GPS and BWC’s.
Spent many, many years in 015, 011, 025 etc in the late 80’s thru the 90’s. I’ve given plays to old timers who lived in the area and were literally prisoners in their own neighborhood. Walking or riding a bike to the corner store or fishing in one of the local lagoons, these men were/are not the problem with “gun violence”. Almost all of these men were veterans with no type of criminal background to speak of. They deserved the benefit of the doubt; not every dude with a pistol had to be a CB number. The furthest I ever went was taking the rounds out of a pistol before handing it back to the gentleman. The diapers on the job today haven’t a clue how much respect and “street cred” treating people right will get you. Mind you, this is while assigned to one of the biggest number producing units ever long before all these feel good orders on how to be the Pussy Police were issued.
3/18/2024 01:21:00 PM
Just because you chose to let people go when they were violating the UUW laws, does not mean you actually had discretion about if they must be arrested or not. You were supposed to arrest them. You thought you had that power, but you were wrong. I suppose you thought you could let drunk drivers keep driving if they seemed like nice guys who were almost home too. Just because you choose to do something that you're not legally allowed to do, doesn't mean you were right. You got lucky. Now what if these people that you decided to let go weren't the nice guys you thought they were, and they ended up shooting someone? You decided to have your own little trial in your head after knowing them for a minute or two, and then dropped the charges and set them free. Maybe you were being a nice guy. Maybe they didn't deserve to be arrested. Maybe you were being lazy. Maybe you fucked up. So many possibilities, but having actual legal discretion was not one of those possibilities.
CPD should be required to contact the governor for the approval of any gun charges.
The governor should really clarify this error in the state law.
After all he wants gun laws charged to the full extent of the law no matter if it occurs in north lawndale or Wilmette right JB???
3/18/2024 04:00:00 PM
Jabba the Gov got distracted as soon as the sandwich was mentioned. He can't be expected to listen to the facts of a case while he's so hungry all the time. He's also very busy in Wisconsin and Florida, so he can't be dealing with all this crazy crime stuff in Illinois.
Police do have the responsibility to enforce the law as the law as written, but seriously, Illinois is not friendly to the Second Amendment.
To 10:02 am pension question
It’s called pension portability. You can buy suburban PD, I believe up to Five years. Kind of expensive.
Next best is military time. You can buy up to, two years, by the month, better rate.
If you were Cook County SD, the rate is the best.
You don’t jump anybody in seniority, you just buy two years, retire after 27 with full pension.
The longer you wait the more it costs because not only to you pay all those 9 percent deductions, but interest it should have earned.
The only way you lose if you buy the time, make rank late, and would have had to work anyway for pension.
Actually call pension board and someone might crunch numbers, tell you cost and you can take it from deferred comp with no penalty.
Anyway that’s what I did in 2012
Stop locking people up on the westside!
It does NOTHING!
3/18/2024 03:14:00 PM
Not nothing.
It feeds the vultures, I mean, lawyers.
Remember, the courts appoint a lawyer to everyone who claims they cannot afford one.
And those lawyers get paid. From the taxpayers trough.
And the lawyers 'prosecuting' do also get paid. From that same trough.
As do the judges.
And every other city/county/state employee within the justice systems thereof.
Plus, the race baiting hustlers get their babblings flowing.
And, the same hustlers hustle up boo coo bucks to their trough dipping organizations.
So many somethings does this feed!
All completely funded by the taxpayers.
So.
Not nearly nothing does it do.
Anonymous said...
I left the CPD to work in a suburban department. I had 8 years with the CPD. I worked two years with the suburban department. I just got rehired by the CPD. Does anyone know if I have earned 8 years towards the pension or do I get credit for the 2 years that I worked for the suburban department and have earned 10 years towards the pension. I hope that I only have to work 10 more years.
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I believe that as long as you didn’t get paid out for your contributions to the pension when you resigned and left it alone, you should only have to work 12 more years-if you were able to get in as Tier 1
If you are Tier 1, you do not work “20 and a day”. Instead, your retirement date is determined by how many work days you contributed to the pension. Generally speaking, you must work an extra 8 weeks after your 20 year anniversary to ensure you contributed enough work days to the pension.
If you’re tier 2, better off going to the retirement seminar asap
The difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives tell the truth of how they think. You may not like it but you know their position. Liberals, on the other hand, have to make up stories and embellish to try and support their position. Thank God for Body Cameras to show the truth but even then most liberals just bury their head in the sand and do not want to believe the truth.
Go Trump
https://youtu.be/9mYVi7WHyiU?si=b2JvNcuS1KtL0FF9
“ 've been on 21 years. Patrol officers have never been able to question a juvenile. An advocate(Youth Detective) had to be present. Scary you didn't know that.”
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. Like many who read this blog I’m not a member of the CPD, matter of fact, not even an Illinois cop, just a retired cop (37 years in two departments) having retired in 2007), hence the salutation “you folks.”
Most jurisdictions I am aware of don’t provide legal representation to juvenile arrestees/ detainees until they assert their Sixth Amendment right to counsel. Maybe the other departments in the state don’t have an advocate/juvenile detective available and that’s why your large and wise governor choose to enact this law.
However, in other states some public defender offices tried by policy to enact a scheme whereas they got the juvenile court to blanket appoint their office to represent all juveniles questioned by the police. The courts struck this down, arguing under the constitution representation was an individual right that must be asserted by the individual.
Sounds like CPD already provides representation, or does it? Are these detective advocates licensed to practice law in the Great State of Illinois? If not they are mere observers. Can these advocates, as they are detectives I assume they are peace officers employed by the CPD, tell you that you may not speak with their client? Can the advocate give legal advice,? Can the advocate meet with the kid and develop a client attorney relationship where the advocate acts in the best interest of the kid? If the kid tells the advocate where the murder weapon is, is advocate bound by the attorney client relationship and prohibited under the penalty of criminal sanctions from sharing that information with his/her/ them police colleagues? I suspect not.
I don’t know anything about how the CPD operates, but I think that when you arrest or detain a kid, and you want to question him/her, you are now going to have to call the public defender first and they will tell you that on behalf of their client he/she is declining your invitation of a pleasant conversation in the interview room. In your 21 years of being a patrol officer (the best job in LE) ever had a lawyer allow you to speak with their client? Do think that a lawyer is going to tell some kid “tell the nice officer how you and your mates highjacked the old lady”? I think not. If they allow an interview at all, it won’t be until they speak with the SA.
I spent many years as an investigator and I will you the only times I’ve had a lawyer allow us to talk to their client were RICO , multi-defendant murders and fraud cases, and that’s after they struck a deal with the SA.
I think this law is going to have a major impact on Illinois, law-enforcement, but, then again, maybe not.
would require a lawyer for young people under 18 during a police interrogation — an expansion of juvenile rights that comes in response to WBEZ reporting that showed how a suburban Chicago detective extracted a teen's false confession to a shooting.Feb 9, 2024
Constitutional Carry would make sure no one else is ever charged with this.
Make it happen Mr. Community Organizer.
Be The Change!
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
These are the same people that are opposed to constitutional carry
3/18/2024 12:17:00 AM"
Of course, they're communists!
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
get a CCL you lazy fucking cocksucker and stop blaming everyone else for #1 your laziness and #2 your absolute stupidy for leaving it on the front seat."
Steady now, any more talk like that and the Keesing Bandit's white wine spritzers will be bubbling over!
"Anonymous said...
Very similar to president Trumps bloodbath comment, he was literally talking about electric cars being shoved down our throats, but the mainstream media is putting their own spin on it 🤔🤔🤔
3/18/2024 04:41:00 AM"
It's called gaslighting and the propaganda arm of the communist party does it better than anyone.
"nonymous said...
Hey, I’m a little afraid of how things work in Chicago.
I’m looking for some advice from you coppers.
I’m a honorably retired cop who will traveling to your city. I have my retired ID and a letter from my former agency that I have qualified and am entitled to carry a concealed weapon under the federal statute.
In the very unlikely event that I might have contact with the PD/SO will my ID and letter keep out of the Stoney lonesome?
3/18/2024 05:48:00 AM"
LEOSA says you're all good. Should have zero issues.
"Anonymous said...
I left the CPD to work in a suburban department. I had 8 years with the CPD. I worked two years with the suburban department. I just got rehired by the CPD. Does anyone know if I have earned 8 years towards the pension or do I get credit for the 2 years that I worked for the suburban department and have earned 10 years towards the pension. I hope that I only have to work 10 more years.
3/18/2024 10:02:00 AM"
You will have to buy back the time for the 2 years you went on safari. Figure about $12,000 because you have to pay your share plus the city contribution for the 2 years.
This person should never have been arrested. A gun? Cool. Everyone should have one. Even convicted felons. The right to bear arms is an unassailable right given to us by God, and God only! Fuck Illinois and it’s anti- 2nd Amendment tyranny. Freedom!
3/18/2024 01:33:00 PM
The only correct comment here
I've been on 21 years. Patrol officers have never been able to question a juvenile. An advocate(Youth Detective) had to be present. Scary you didn't know that.
3/18/2024 09:21:00 AM
And if you have to "advocate" for the yute, you would have that yute admit to nothing.
His famous white wine spritzers aren't the only things that bubble over in the Keesing Bandit's pretty loft.
His famous white wine spritzers aren't the only things that bubble over in the Keesing Bandit's pretty loft.
3/19/2024 09:36:00 AM
No celebration without video confirmation.
Audio also would be a bonus.
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