Manpower Misallocated
We (somewhat) jokingly made the case a few days ago for a return of the Summer Mobile Force. We said it didn't take a rocket scientist to see the need for it.
Lo and Behold, someone makes our case for us....again (thanks to CWB for the story):
- A man was shot during an altercation involving a large group of
people near Montrose Beach on Sunday evening. Chicago police said the
gunman escaped after his getaway car crashed nearby.
People were heading home after a busy, summery day at the beach when police began to report altercations breaking out within the crowd around 8:20 p.m. As the situation continued to unfold, a gunman seated inside a silver sedan rolled through the 4400 block of North Simonds Drive.
Police said the gunman opened fire on a 38-year-old man who was standing in the parking lot, striking him in the back.
If the Department would make sure all beat cars are filled first, then they could fill tact teams later, Area teams after that, then citywide teams, and finally, as a last resort, inside staff.
Someone quoted a statistic that claimed there are more inside people working days than manning beat cars on first watch or perhaps even second watch. That's counting the Districts, Areas, Homan Square, Academy, off-site Academy training and HQ.
We tend to believe it.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
72 Comments:
Surf's UP!!!!
Lots of house mice.
Always have been..
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Not to mention all this department cares about are fixed posts and some bullshit mission preventing the next robbery or shooting. I work 1st watch and whenever dispatch reads the 30 plus job backlog, without fail you’ll get some sgt going on the air saying we need to pull a car to sit at x and y intersection for the remainder, works great for the car that get to sit over there but screws everyone else over. From the top down, they don’t give a shit about calls for service, the main purpose of our job.
headquarters parking lot is full every day of the week during the day. Why? It wasn’t always like that but now they have so many hiding there during the day, most likely almost 1000 people there during the day. Why is the parking lot literally overflowing so that you chance to park on the street if you’re retiring or going on medical? Anyone want to explain why headquarters is all of a sudden this past year overflowing with people?
019 front office has admins on 3rd watch in addition to all the daytime desk dollies. The doors to Caps and front office are usually locked, so you don't sneak up on anybody. Everyone knows they aren't doing anything. Some of them don't surface until furlo picks! Most have 3-5 years on. Don't get me started on the "social media officer" positions made up citywide. I think at this point every office is a "social media officer". A sworn officer whose job it is to post on social media!
There is nothing more disgusting than to see young, able bodies officers working in an inside spot. Those inside spots exist for officers who really need it.
Hire retired POs part time to work inside positions. I bet you could fill most of them.
Citizens of Chicago, this is how your tax dollars are misappropriated.
An "inside spot" is a secretarial or administrative position. The bosses like to assign their girlfriends, mistresses (we often refer to police headquarters as Fort Fellatio), relatives and political favorites to an inside spot.
Adding insult to injury, most of them don't even work the full eight hours. They work 2-5 hours. Your tax dollars at work.
They are looking at this location. It already passed the legislator in Springfield. However, Fatboy trust fund baby is going to veto it because the airlines want this property for the sum of one dollar which is what the city does to sell property on this prime land I guess whoever gives him the biggest campaign contribution will win the prize. They bastardized the police anyway trust fund baby does not like police, but uses them like his personal valet is just like Brandon the states attorney the crook County president all the rest of them. I think, though Brandon has the biggest amount of platoon officers ever.
https://southwestregionalpublishing.com/2024/05/19/legislation-to-acquire-new-police-district-facility-on-southwest-side-passes-general-assembly/
* so you would have a police station with 4 beat cars from Cicero to Harlem from the Stevenson to 65th St. you only have four cars, where are they going to find extra police anyway? But then we could use another commander and more useless inside positions.
Whoa there cowboy, without us inside people there would be no outside people.
I didn’t come on this job to work no damn street, that’s just crazy talk.
Besides, who’s going to write up all those useless reports, not these exempt fools that can barely speak a coherent sentence.
Now go get more blue cards, Obama’s premise will eventually be proven.
Nothing will happen.
WOL would rather down a car than pull a mouse from the desk to man the beat.
Units and Teams are made to accomodate supervisors who can't or won't work the watch. Of course they need an army of former house mice and watch rejects to justify such cushy spots.
Next!
Hey SCC... this mayhem,.lack of conehead comments on murders , shootings ,in shithole Chicago silence from CPS honor student snelling ,all part of the grand progressive plan to take down ..American system .
How many businesses have been robbed this year on North- Norhtwest side? . Except for April .. 40-50 a month..have been robbed..How many arrested? ,,Under Daley you think this would have tolerated.. But Lol.. wonder why them pastors awful quiet while blacks being shot, killed .. including wide mouth Sabina's Fr.faker .. Mia
Cut Brandon Johnson’s detail from 150 down to 30.
Enough said.
Few years back just after the Bauer tenure, there was a PPO S.L. who came thru & only passed her FTO time cuz her dad, soon after she cried she did not want to work 1st because it was too dangerous so 018 hid her in the caps office and now she's at HQ hiding there. Never been on the streets, I hope inside spots get cleaned out
I remember the fun Summer Mobile parties many years ago...good times!
Boots on the ground. Boots on the ground.
5/21/2024 12:51:00 AM
The former CPD police headquarters is now Public Safety Headquarters and the Chicago Fire Department is there too. Along with God only knows all of the house mice and desk dollies.
Yeah every time you pull into the lot at HQ it’s totally filled. You’re lucky to find a spot just to pull in the to do some form of business like purchasing merchandise from the store or dropping off some paperwork that needs to be there in a timely fashion. Just not right. Get these artful dodgers back out into the districts and help out. Jesus H Christ.
I put the number of sworn that could be replaced by civilians at 437 last count.
They better close the beaches. It's too hot near the cool water.
To the post asking why HQ parking lot is full. It’s because the fire department shares the building and parking. Plus any in-service training. Heard you can park across the street at De La Salle.
Send the 9th district part time desk dolly back to the street oh that’s right he’s on the medical AGAIN disregard
Pulling even more officers out of patrol for a summer squad is suicide. We’re too depleted for that shit.
There is nothing more disgusting than to see young, able bodies officers working in an inside spot. Those inside spots exist for officers who really need it.
5/21/2024 05:46:00 AM
That's a weird take. Inside spots aren't only for people who can't physically work the streets. Also, a large number of those who "really need it" are just fakers hiding inside. As long as there are inside spots available for full duty officers, anyone should be eligible to fill them, regardless of their lack of medical issues. You want to discriminate against able-bodied workers, simply because they can do what others can't, while also being perfectly capable of doing whatever the inside position entails? How very progressive of you. Why hire the best person for the job when you can hire the one with a limp and a wonky eye, right? I'm not suggesting that CPD actually puts the best candidates for each role into that role, but you're advocating for actively seeking out people who are unable to work as police officers on the street, to fill the position of a police officer working inside. It's pretty much an argument for civilianization of inside spots. An officer who can't perform the duties of a police officer on the street, due to some medical issue, should apply for disability, not argue that they're more entitled to an inside spot.
I thought the city hired po as hall monitors and janitors
Anonymous Anonymous said...
019 front office has admins on 3rd watch in addition to all the daytime desk dollies. The doors to Caps and front office are usually locked, so you don't sneak up on anybody. Everyone knows they aren't doing anything. Some of them don't surface until furlo picks! Most have 3-5 years on. Don't get me started on the "social media officer" positions made up citywide. I think at this point every office is a "social media officer". A sworn officer whose job it is to post on social media!
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SDSC has to be 10-4 but beat car had to be down or 99.
Desk has to be 4 deep as well.
Ancient mice Dennis K is truly stupid.
Eh, anybody in that crowd was probably bad news anyway.
Patrol is the back-end of the department and clout is needed at every level. During covid, 1st watch in 016, 4 or 5 officers scheduled to work the following 1st watch tour of duty. So the WOL does the one sensical thing and assigns every officer for that night to the late side, so two 10-4 cars. By the time the next tour rolled around... heavy phone calls were made and early side special people started early as usual. Remember, there's two separate departments, the haves and have nots. Your safety is none of "haves" concern, not even for one day.
Why isn’t there a contingency protocol that drafts housemice to the street when backlogs start? Get the desk Sgt and WOL out there answering calls too. Every sworn able body should be in play as the jobs pile up.
Asking for a friend: does OHARE still have two guys assigned to the desk, so one can duck early every single day? Did you hear that SPIRO GEORGAS?
A side note specific to this incident, I noticed there was no problem identifying the color of the vehicle. Any insights as to the identifying qualities of the shooter or driver of the getaway car? I might be wrong, but I’m pretty sure a silver vehicle did not fire the shots.
Hire retired POs part time to work inside positions. I bet you could fill most of them.
5/21/2024 05:56:00 AM
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They are.. LOTS of civilian spots:
https://chicago.taleo.net/careersection/100/jobsearch.ftl?lang=en
what about all the desk dollies that work the desk at 016
you have a gun and a badge go out there and answer some calls
Manpower Misallocated…… CHIEF Of DETS
Really wish someone would take a hard look at what A 2 Det Cmdr is doing. It’s completely F’d up. Only a few chosen get pre-approval OT directly from Cmdr. Manpower is down to less than a handful. Victims are pissed! Cases are blown off! CC (A&P) are down bad. And absolutely no one seems to give a Flying F
Triple Merit A 2 Det Cmdr is clueless.
I agree that the sworn working inside are extremely young but ya’ll got to take into account this is also a very dept now. And quite honestly, I think the old timers don’t want to be tied down to a desk of all places
Use to be senior officers were offered in side or desk jobs but it usually always went reverse seniority. There are also 3 times food more inside/desk positions than there use to be back in early 2000’s
Violent criminal activities, in progress. That's all. That's it. Everything else is a luxury, an indulgence, a waste of effort, an ilusion of effective value.
99% of law abiding is achieved by voluntary adherence.
The 1% rejecting voluntary adherence to basic must not do laws are the police officer's business. Criminal violence must not do.
Self defense is not criminal violence.
The default preference for self defence is to flee.
The fight option is never preferred, yet often not avoidable.
Fear of loss of life is the default state when criminal violence is experienced. Thus, flee or fight.
The presence of police merely defines, to the criminally violent inclined, the factor of opposition to their intended actions. Violent opposition. Fight opposition, not flee.
The portion of any population deluding themselves that police function as a guard dog is insane.
How about pulling police from all neighborhoods that Alderman,Mayor live that want to defund police.
10:41a so says the able bodied 5yr wonder with an inside spot.
If those house mouse dollies every got out from behind a desk or got off a supervisors lap they would piss their pants to have to work the street never going to happen
The real test will be this weekend. The start of summer, this will tell how the summer will go. I hope that all that are working this weekend stay safe.
019 is a crap hole on midnights. 7 officers held indoors every night. 1 cop only does the schedule, 2 to do reports, 1 desk sgt, 2 POD officers, and 1 watch commander. All that while multiple squad cars are rolling with one cop. Talk about officer safety concerns. So fuck you coming into roll call talking about EAP & officer well being. 7 cops inside so cops on the desk can leave early. While cops are rolling by themselves on midnights. But no worries house mice! Your hiding indoors will be coming to an end very soon! CPD #s are diminishing rapidly with retirees and cops wising up and going to other police departments. There will be no choice but to drain the Swamp called headquarters, and all the little swamps at the districts. Where will you hide? BWAHAHAHA
House mice should have lesser pay.
No duty availability.
No uniform allowance.
No LEMART, CIT, Bike incentive.
No OT opportunity.
FTO VC from 018 midnights has been a house
mouse for years now.
That's a weird take. Inside spots aren't only for people who can't physically work the streets. Also, a large number of those who "really need it" are just fakers hiding inside. As long as there are inside spots available for full duty officers, anyone should be eligible to fill them, regardless of their lack of medical issues. You want to discriminate against able-bodied workers, simply because they can do what others can't, while also being perfectly capable of doing whatever the inside position entails? How very progressive of you. Why hire the best person for the job when you can hire the one with a limp and a wonky eye, right? I'm not suggesting that CPD actually puts the best candidates for each role into that role, but you're advocating for actively seeking out people who are unable to work as police officers on the street, to fill the position of a police officer working inside. It's pretty much an argument for civilianization of inside spots. An officer who can't perform the duties of a police officer on the street, due to some medical issue, should apply for disability, not argue that they're more entitled to an inside spot.
Your just an a#s hole.
Plain old Chicken Shits.
Why doesn’t the city just eliminate the part time desk bids it would free up the 9 th district crybaby desk dolly to go back where he belongs on the Medical 6 months out of the total POS
19 front office has admins on 3rd watch in addition to all the daytime desk dollies. The doors to Caps and front office are usually locked, so you don't sneak up on anybody. Everyone knows they aren't doing anything. Some of them don't surface until furlo picks! Most have 3-5 years on. Don't get me started on the "social media officer" positions made up citywide. I think at this point every office is a "social media officer". A sworn officer whose job it is to post on social media!
What is a 3rd watch admim responsibilities? Now this sounds like a nice spot!
I cannot believe the amount of new guys fighting to work inside. I've seen guys and gals go straight to the desk or the sdsc room while older coppers are placed in beat cars 99. I don't understand the logic I even saw an sdsc guy with three years leave the watch and go to a,different one because he had to work the street due to shortages. The department does nothing but encourage this behavior and caters to the cowards who want to hide inside.
That's ISP! Way more folks NOT on patrol these days.... unreal
Your just an a#s hole.
If you’re. As in you are.
For the one asking about 3rd watch front office spot, I have some bad news! If you have not been approached to work such a spot, then you will not ever be asked. You have to possess certain skills and talent. I mean knowledge, knowledge! You have to be really really really knowledgeable
When they cancel RDO’s and institute 12 hour days, will all the inside people be kept inside? Will any of them be out there for the DNC?
Nothing leaves a worse taste in your mouth when you see desk crews with guys and girls with under 10 or 5 or even 2 years on the job while you see the old guy or girl with 20 to 30 years humping job to job on a beat car. It’s just a strange department where the less seniority you have, the more perks you have than a dude or lady cop who is on high blood pressure meds , diabetic, or cancer survivor. I suppose the inside bosses want to be surrounded by pretty youth boys and girls massaging their egos. I agree with above comment, if your a 9 to 5 banker hours who “works” inside your entire career with weekends off, afraid of the street, with your 2 hour lunch and early ducks with your 30 hour per week schedule , no duty availability or uniform checks should be given to these folk. But in corrupt cpd , only the have -nots and unconnected will be pushing that beat car and doing the dirty work. Just the unfortunate reality of cpd.
10:41a so says the able bodied 5yr wonder with an inside spot.
5/21/2024 04:44:00 PM
Bad back, bad knees, bad shoulder, and not one inside spot in over 20 years. But you keep telling yourself whatever lies you need to justify your lazy ass fighting for that inside hiding spot. You joined the police department, not an office job. If you can't be the police, go shuffle papers somewhere else.
Your just an a#s hole.
5/21/2024 06:08:00 PM
It's "you're." And you can say asshole here. Your mommy isn't watching. Did I hurt your feelings by suggesting that the police should be the police instead of crying about being unable to be the police to score an inside gig? Sorry, snowflake. If you can't do the job, find another job, not a secret hiding spot for your lazy ass.
Tell the dickhead city to shut down the lobbies in the police stations after business hours. There's not a report on this planet that can't wait til morning. There shouldn't be non-employees in a police station ever for anything other than reports anyways. That would free up 2 to 4 people a night.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cut Brandon Johnson’s detail from 150 down to 30.
Enough said.
5/21/2024 08:14:00 AM
Cut it down to a driver, hired from his choice of connected hack security outfits.
These clown mayors are not leaders of nations, their absence would just be a small speed bump in the operation of the city.
Furthermore, end the details of the 3 former clowns, it’s a fucking joke it continues.
Trust story. I'm retired now 2 years. When i was in 005 not long ago , I started @ 0600. I handled armed robberies and burglary calls that occurred @ 0300 routinely. When Eddie Johnson came to roll call and was questioned about our response times he said, " I don't give a fuck about response times tell them to move to Iowa." He then threatened the roll call stating if anybody repeated what he just said he would fuck with their career.
"Anonymous said...
Not to mention all this department cares about are fixed posts and some bullshit mission preventing the next robbery or shooting. I work 1st watch and whenever dispatch reads the 30 plus job backlog, without fail you’ll get some sgt going on the air saying we need to pull a car to sit at x and y intersection for the remainder, works great for the car that get to sit over there but screws everyone else over. From the top down, they don’t give a shit about calls for service, the main purpose of our job.
5/21/2024 12:24:00 AM"
You can blame the corrupt Daley 2 for that. It was under his reign of terror that the police department HAD to respond to EVERY call for service, no matter how silly the call.
Other departments call takers/dispatchers throughout the country say, "no, we are not sending police for that nonsense." This contributes, along with shortage of manpower to the tune of 1500-2000 PO's, to backlogs and beat cars having to cover 2-4 other beats.
It's going to get worse as more retire while hiring doesn't not keep up with attrition.
"Anonymous said...
That's a weird take. Inside spots aren't only for people who can't physically work the streets. Also, a large number of those who "really need it" are just fakers hiding inside. As long as there are inside spots available for full duty officers, anyone should be eligible to fill them, regardless of their lack of medical issues. You want to discriminate against able-bodied workers, simply because they can do what others can't, while also being perfectly capable of doing whatever the inside position entails? How very progressive of you. Why hire the best person for the job when you can hire the one with a limp and a wonky eye, right? I'm not suggesting that CPD actually puts the best candidates for each role into that role, but you're advocating for actively seeking out people who are unable to work as police officers on the street, to fill the position of a police officer working inside. It's pretty much an argument for civilianization of inside spots. An officer who can't perform the duties of a police officer on the street, due to some medical issue, should apply for disability, not argue that they're more entitled to an inside spot.
Your just an a#s hole.
5/21/2024 06:08:00 PM"
He/she may or may not be an asshole, but he/she makes a valid argument.
"Anonymous said...
Trust story. I'm retired now 2 years. When i was in 005 not long ago , I started @ 0600. I handled armed robberies and burglary calls that occurred @ 0300 routinely. When Eddie Johnson came to roll call and was questioned about our response times he said, " I don't give a fuck about response times tell them to move to Iowa." He then threatened the roll call stating if anybody repeated what he just said he would fuck with their career.
5/22/2024 07:49:00 AM"
Miss Karma took care of him, didn't she?
Anonymous said...
When they cancel RDO’s and institute 12 hour days, will all the inside people be kept inside? Will any of them be out there for the DNC?
5/21/2024 11:21:00 PM
I won't be. I'm beating them with the Medical, have been for the last several months and will ride this until retirement in 10 months.
I did my item, and more than that.
These idiots invited these bigger idiots here - not my problem. I'll be watching from my AC corner office on the 4th floor at 35th where I do as little as possible.
Ah yes, summer mobile. We'd drive back to the Academy for checkoff with the ass end of the cars dragging from all the beer in the trunk.
Then it was divvy up and trade brands in the park after. Assholes got locked up, harmless kids got a warning. We were feared
I won't be. I'm beating them with the Medical, have been for the last several months and will ride this until retirement in 10 months.
I did my item, and more than that.
These idiots invited these bigger idiots here - not my problem. I'll be watching from my AC corner office on the 4th floor at 35th where I do as little as possible
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Same situation just not at the IVORY TOWER. I let the bosses’ favorites hold the front line at the DNC. It’s only 3 days, goddamit, I’m going on 17 years of being at the bottom. Not taking it anymore my orifices are pretty sore. Just 3 more years and definitely making sure all my medical issues are fixed before the final day.
1:30am over 20yrs, been in a district then entire time and never had an inside spot either. Also a firm believer that those with the seniority and have paid their dues should have those inside spots over the youngsters (men and women) who take this job nowadays with the sole purpose and EXPECTATION of getting to an inside spot ASAP without even putting handcuffs on anyone. If your broken down self still chooses to stay in the street after 20yrs, God bless you
Miss Karma took care of him, didn't she?
5/22/2024 09:51:00 AM
Johnson has no shame. To a slightly lesser extent, Cline also has no shame. The two of them could be individually enjoying their bloated pensions, but instead, they pop-up on television every couple of weeks subliminally reminding people they are money whores.
If ever their current side-hustles evaporate, these two pricks will be either selling Avon door-to-door, hustling hot dogs on the corner or hiring out as a mohel. Already having a load of dough just isn't enough for these two former, mediocre hookerintendents.
I won't be. I'm beating them with the Medical, have been for the last several months and will ride this until retirement in 10 months.
I did my item, and more than that.
These idiots invited these bigger idiots here - not my problem. I'll be watching from my AC corner office on the 4th floor at 35th where I do as little as possible.
5/22/2024 03:39:00 PM
Drunk posting is not allowed.
Drunk posting is not allowed.
5/22/2024 07:48:00 PM
So how did your comment get posted?
Well, there's the house mouses of galaxtic celebrity.
Then, there are the wannabe house mouses who find it difficult to be invited into the house.
And then there are the default to mickey mouse policings that effectively are mice.
A calculation of the proportions of each of all on payroll would be amusing.
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"...the inside bosses want to be surrounded by pretty boys..."
The Keesing Bandit likes to be surrounded by pretty boys.
"...I'm going on seventeen years of being at the bottom..."
Keesing Bandit? Is that you?
So how did your comment get posted?
5/22/2024 11:05:00 PM
I donate heavily to the SCC AA PAC.
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