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What part of this:
About 2 a.m., members of a Chicago police robbery team were on patrol when they saw two people believed to be armed get into a black 2007 Lexus ES in the 5500 block of South Pulaski Road, police said.
Officers began pursuing the sedan, which fled at a “high rate of speed” for about 4 miles before running a red light, smashing into Smith’s 2024 Kia Soul and hitting a building in the 3500 block of South Ashland Avenue, police said.
A male passenger of the Lexus was ejected and landed on the sidewalk among the rubble of the partially collapsed building, according to a police report.
"high rate of speed"?
Four miles?
Suspect launched from crashed vehicle and died?
Lawsuit incoming. In a just world, no one would give a shit that a criminal died in the commission of a crime, but this isn't a just world, and we've been sounding these warnings for years now.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
81 Comments:
That whole Chase scenario and others need to be challenged on the courts by honest judges not the political hacks in Cook County. Unless the police vehicle is a striking vehicle or actually involved in the crash how can the city and or the police be responsible for the actions of another they are driving the vehicle and can stop anytime they want the police have no control the other driver does and should be solely responsible.
Nice job guys, hope you enjoyed your employment with the city while it lasted.
Please, by all means- keep disregarding policy and doing whatever you want.
You know better.
Hope that “robbery team” was with it.
Shitbird dead. Good job being protectors of our society. God be with the officers as they face the politicians, media, activists, lawyers, etc. scumbags.
It was much nicer in the 90’s when a crash happened it was the responsibility of the driver, passenger hurt by driver action, no issue.sorry, so sad, Now if your taking a shit in your apartment and if he siren scared you the city will settle for $15k.
From 55th and Pulaski to 35th and Ashland sheesh. These guys are fucked. These carjacking teams/robbery teams think the car chase policy doesn’t apply to them and just applies to dogass patrol. Anyways I’ll buy a ticket to the benefit and have a beer at the lodge while everyone soon forgets you after you’re buried at callback and eventually fired
The carjacking unit violates the order weekly , any of these young kids on these teams always say we’re allowed , or the ones who say we’re under a task force , that’s task force means shit because your badge still says Chicago Police .
We been saying no to alot of things that we knew were going to come back and bite us ... CCs, BCs, stopping 1s in their neighborhoods, yet we still do it and yup we got bite. So we won't learn and stop.. nah we have to play the part we sold or sole to be in .. plain clothes unit with 3 year on
Some people on the job always choose to learn the hard way.
But… but my honorable mention? Maybe even a department commendation. And of course, my commander might look up in the hallway and nod at me as I pass by. Not to mention the desk babes will maybe go out with me if I tell them the story of a high speed chase.
These idiot young cops!! They only way they will learn is by punitive damages to the shit birds family- STOP CHASING!!!
That poor car, what a shame
A lot more to this story. Good luck to all involved.
So you’re telling me that these officers were granted the Go to chase for how many miles without a supervisor terminating it? I can’t even curb a vehicle without being told to terminate. Something ain’t adding up.
55th and Pulaski to 35th and Ashland may only be 4 miles on google maps, but that is a long way to pursue in a city. I bet there were 30 stop lights, 20 stop signs, and, even though it’s 2am, hundreds of citizens in cars they passed while chasing. None of it’s worth it. None of it.
When are coppers going to OBEY the Constitution of our country and our general orders? Yeah, that's right, I said obey.
According to the article, the officers believed that two people were armed and they got inside a vehicle. Hence they pursued them. That alone is not reasonable articulable suspicion or the threshold for probable cause.
Cops like this should be fired. Cops like this endanger all of our lives, freedom and job security. You reap what you sow.
Guess the chasers just couldn’t read the No memo. Probably graduates of CPS.
What a shame, offenders both armed, wearing their robbery gear, and linked to a string of armed robberies. Coppers will get fucked. Wonder what Larry has to say?
Just start writing down your assets. It’s finna be aight.
Seat belts save lives. Drive with a cop chasing at Rage speed, crash and destroy a brick building and bail. Bail and run. run run and IF caught, get out a day later, get released. Repeat.
One shitbird who won't be getting no cash bail.
You still have bonehead Tac Lt’s who tell their guys that they can chase and they will be fine. I can name a few
Nobody gives a fuck about shit like this in my new state. Fuck Chicago.
They knocked the building down yesterday.
Coppers from 009 should have known better.
Very solid officers from prt that will hopefully not see the shit outcome of this.
Shocked that the media reported that these two scumbags were armed.
Stay safe boys and girls.
As some one who reviews these reports…..I can tell you this incident reads like a justifiable chase in regards to doing old fashion police work!
That being said, the person operating the original CPD vehicle will have plenty of explaining to do? And when they compare it to the rest of the written, verbal and photographic evidence……there will have be someone’s A$$ in the hurt locker for this?
The lawyers have already started FOIA requests on the OEMC radio traffic? The victims lawyers which also include the offenders lawyers are out documenting where cameras are located at the incident sites?
And the best parts of these searches for evidence include the CPD GPS location system regarding the chasing vehicle along with any and all supervisors in the immediate area of pursuit?
Even major accident section reports are conflicting with the involved members reported speeds compared to the offenders vehicles computer which records the vehicle speed, application of brakes and impact forces when it struck the victims Jeep?
In other words, there is going to be a bus rolling over someone!
Get ready for the stripping of police powers, reassignment to call back. And Service of Discovery motions pending the formal Law suit against the City, CPD and the Officer operating the CPD vehicle? And possibly the supervisors on air in the area of the incident?
So why would any police officer in Illinois chase any offender?
Until that it’s challenged in court, you are held accountable for whatever dude does behind the wheel.
Might not like it, might not be fair, but that’s the way it is.
And idiot coppers STILL chase, then cry when they get spanked.
Sorry, not buying a benefit ticket.
No way they allowed a chase to go on that long without a supervisor monitoring the zone. I may work on the north side but this shit seems off to me.
Yep, I don’t think coppers realize how detailed all of that data is.
And when looked at under a microscope in court- the pursuing officer never looks good.
It’s always hard to call a pursuit “justified” when an innocent car gets t-boned and someone dies. Even though it’s using 20/20 hindsight, the optics really allow a justification when you’re in direct conflict with CPD orders.
Yeah walking around like they’re exempt from common sense and don’t have to obey the department orders.
I’m sure they’ll want a benefit also.
Stay safe everyone, no need to throw shade or monday morning quarterback. Solid job spotting these bad guys out. Let’s hope for the best down the road.
I agree. 100%
I’ve seen them in the district. They chase like crazy.
Good. One last turd on the streets.
I have a better idea. How about we start adding on murder and attempted murder charges to anyone who runs and hits or kills an innocent bystander during their escape, and that charge is mandatory?
And to think, these poor seminary students were headed back to their church to hand in the firearms they found abandoned on the street to their minister. Anybody hit by these a-holes needs to wait until the City pays them and then go after that money.
A male passenger of the Lexus was ejected and landed on the sidewalk among the rubble of the partially collapsed building, according to a police report.
That Barney Rubble what an actor
FYI. Washington DC cop and a sergeant are about to be sent to prison because the cop chased a moped and the crook crashed and died.
Proactively police at your own risk ladies and gentlemen. Been that way for years now. Pro-tip, your “spot” isn’t worth all the stress and aggravation that comes when it all goes south.
Robbery Team? Sounds like another "Tack-Tickle" blunder...check the work histories of these robbery team members and I think you will find that they served proudly on "Chicago's Elite Tactical Squad"
Let me make this a little more clear...When the city puts out an order effectively banning chases, and you violate that order, "You" become the responsible party for acting in violation of said order. Regardless of state law. You can't explain your way out of violating department policies and regulations. Get it? Got it? Good....Now report to the callback unit immediately...CPD has some paperwork that they want to serve you with.
Someone has to do it so better them than ME! I’m saving my pension for ME!
ME-ME-ME-ME-ME-ME and I don’t care about your or the communerty’s feelings.
All these ROD desk jockeys criticizing actual Police upholding their duties are the problem.
Whatever BJ tells him to say.
Why all the hate on some coppers trying to make a difference in this city? Get another job if you are ok with letting bad guys get away from you. Chase until ordered to terminate!
Wow! The job really HAS gone to shit. The hard part is how many of you guys have bought into the departments bullshit. I understand the concept of writing reports and not doing a thing, but you don't have to buy into the bullshit. Old timers used to say no one ever got fired for doing nothing and it really is the truth. The detective who ran out of a Jewel during a bank robbery a few years ago kept her job...
Their Star says Chicago Police. What's with this "badge" stuff lately?
Every white shirt working at the time in 8 & 9, along with any white shirt in the special unit, are all fucked. Each had the responsibility to stop the chase.
A fucking crash dummy ! This asshole is no loss to society what so ever !
When these goofballs get on the air you know something bad is going to happen. Just like when they were chasing a vehicle, it struck and killed a pedestrian they came over the air to ask for a beat car to handle the "on view AA" they magically came across.
Dee criminal always gets what day got coming sometimes good sometimes not
lol troll
lighten up, Francis
God be with the couple struck in the vehicle, who had nothing to do with the shit bird or the cops who didn’t call in a chase that traveled all the way from 55th & Pulaski
I won’t. No empathy for police who refuse to follow the same rules I have to
Learned my lesson the hard way, sorry boys and girls involved but the powers to be are going to run a full train on you're good police skills for another time. The present is so fucked up, were the criminals are the good guys.....God Bless...
Stay fetal kiddies.
lars is not you friend he wants fire as white and hispanic officers as possible
Not saying I agree with it, but chasing in the city is stupid. Whether the police are at fault or not is up courts and policy, at the end of the day criminals will run and put civilians walking to work, home, the store you name at risk to catch these people. Shithead robs someone and flees, cops chase and shithead t bones a family heading home, who really wins here? 1 robbery victim just turned into 4,5,6 victims or dead people. Open county roads and interstate is a different thing.
Geezus you're an idiot. Just because a supervisor doesn't terminate, it doesn't mean you're chase will be deemed within department guidelines ESPECIALLY if someone is hurt/killed.
It’s funny how so many of our “brothers” are throwing the officers under the bus and taking the side of the criminals. Criminals who had a car with stolen plates on it, wearing masks and surgical gloves and armed with two stolen firearms. I live in 016. We are getting a lot more robbery crews coming up here. So it 008 and 022 where many cops live. When a robbery crew hits, cops are the first ones yelling and crying to catch the offenders. If the police get in a chase and a sgt terminates then they bash the sgt as being soft for a robbery that happened in 016. Now they throw cops u see the bus for doing what you want… ahhh, I get it, it’s not your neighborhood and you’re a dog and don’t like police work.. but it’s ok for OTHER PEOPLE to do police work when it’s in YOUR neighborhood. Can’t habit it both ways. These criminals played the robbery Bonnie and Clyde game and they lost. One less crew to come to 016,022, 008 or anywhere else police officers live. The potential future would be victims of this crew thank you also. In my eyes??? Job well done. Anyone jumping on the police is either a dog mutt who doesn’t do anything, a 376 prisoner or someone who left the job or the city.
lol go back to watching Netflix, obviously you don’t understand basic case law.
Ha! That was in 003 on 71st and Jeffery. I worked in 003 at the time this happened. The tact Lt. (B.K.) was a prince of a boss and he got a C.R. # on her for “Cowardice”. Don’t know if anything ever came of CR#. The P.O made Detective sometime after that I believe.
Relax over there thunder thumbs.
Give the teams drones. Let the drones do the chasing from far overheard. A drone could have chased safely. Modern drones are not toys.
Do share the part of the story where it makes this sound like a good chase. You can spin this whatever way you want but the officers were chasing this car. Just because you don't put it out over the air as such doesn't mean it didn't happen. These guys went over both zone 6 and 13 and put it out as "information only". The only way to know the offending vehicles location is by following/chasing it which they did. And if the birds were flying at a high rate of speed, then you were too. I'm not saying be fetal. I'm saying be smart. Protect yourself and your partner(s) physically and financially
That’s terrible advice. You aren’t supposed to, nor do u have to wait until a supervisor gives the order to terminate. Waiting until given or not given that order will not absolve you of the wrath coming your way if the chase goes south. Take it from someone that’s dealt with a few of these.
Ha Ha Ha Ha, now that’s funny.
💯 !
The best is everyone trying to blame this on “young” coppers… the copper involved has like 20 years on the job, has a shitty attitude and thinks he can do whatever he wants for as long as I’ve ever been around him. Dude has a bad habit of this crap and it’s finally caught up with him. I for one don’t feel bad at all for dude
PRT. Not 009.
Sergeants may get flack but whoever was “monitoring ” that chase could be looking at some time or in the same position as the driver. Immediate termination is best bet for sergeants. If a lieutenant wants to override the termination order let them. They make more money than you anyway.
Exactly. The MO of this team especially is to say you are “just following” while continuously calling out streets as if it’s a pursuit. And then someone crashes. They pretend to not be involved. And try to go in their merry little ways.
Wow!!! 55th & Pulaski used to be a very good neighborhood.
WTF dude.... Relax with the ?? marks.
My favorite and timeless SCC policy reminder!
lol these guys will now be 376 prisoners sued and potentially fired. and for what??
None of what you said matters. In fact, your attitude is why we’re here. Your shit tier police actions in the past caused the policing crisis today. Your stupid impunity and mistreatment of people, it has a reckoning and it’s here. You’re the reason we are over scrutinized. You’re the reason we are constantly questioned, because fuck ups like you lied, cheated, stole. We are paying the price for the cops from the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. You fucked up. You killed too many people on dumb car chases for nothing. You beat people and they got millions from justified lawsuits. You think we don’t know? You still brag about the old days at roll call you stupid fool. Now we have to pay the price for you and you’ll be retired in a few years. Fuck you. Don’t chase anyone. Do I care if some loser gets robbed in 16? No. The coppers in 16 should do a better job. But wait, the only people who have the time or clout to get into 16 are dog old timers or literal cock suckers.
Get fucked and stay fetal. I got 20 years left. The more other coppers do stupid stuff like chase for four miles in city streets the harder those years will be, the more scrutiny, the higher discipline numbers, the worse it will be.
If this is the 60A team, I’ve heard those 5 year strokes in my district. They will “follow” a car for a mile calling it out but not “chasing” and if they get into anything they don’t want, they’ll try to push it off to the beat cops because it’s beneath them. I hope they get jammed up hard for their actions. I’m thinking about reporting some shit I’ve seen them do myself because I’m not taking the fall for them.
I worked in 007 on days and was on scene for that. I’m pretty sure the driver of that incident had nothing to do with this. Two different officers from what I saw on the report.
No one is blaming anyone. Clearly you have resentment towards this veteran you speak of. It’s a lot easier to speak negative of anyone behind a keyboard. Just goes to show the type of human you are. Hope all involved turn out good.
Exactly…
I would rather be a house mouse for 20 years and retire with a pension than to be in that position! Lose my job, pension and then punitive damages! Fuck the dead guy!! You are right ! ME ME ME!! Me and my pension for my family. Wake up boys. I pushed a beat car until the end and I had my fair share of shit but this is a different Police Department. NO CHASES!!!!
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