SPARs Up, CR's Down
(yeah we know they're called CL's now, but we were raised on CR's)
When society made the police the enemy, cops backed off. They backed off a lot. We can debate the pros and cons of having a dedicated (or aggressive) police force for years and never come to a consensus. But when the multiple oversight agencies don't have CLs/CRs to investigate and justify their existence, the Department has to resort to nitpicking minor infractions so they can say, "Look! We're holding Officers to account!"
While proceedings in high-profile police misconduct cases slowed to a trickle in 2024, the number of internal disciplinary actions initiated by Chicago Police Department supervisors nearly doubled from 2023, according to a Tribune analysis.
Records obtained via the Freedom of Information Act show CPD supervisors, mostly sergeants, filed more than 5,300 Summary Punishment Action Requests — “SPARs” — in 2024, a sharp increase from the 2,700 SPARs initiated in 2023.
The rise in internal CPD discipline comes as the external disciplinary process — where fewer, but more serious cases, such as those involving deadly force incidents, are handled — remains greatly curtailed as a legal fight carries on between the city and Fraternal Order of Police in the Illinois Appellate Court. No decision is expected anytime soon.
The SPARs are for minor violations, mostly administrative:
- tardiness, court deviations, uniform violations, grooming standards, failure to clear a job or lunch promptly, congregating, reading or smoking in public, radio procedure violations, minor fender benders.....minor crap
The BIG ones (CLs/CRs) are things that may end up as suspension time or criminal charges:
- Use of Force violations, money beefs, thefts, deliberate violations of orders, etc.
Remember when everyone complained that 95% or more of these violations ended up "unfounded"? That's because they were made up by criminals in an effort to intimidate Officers into not doing their job. The Department was never that corrupt, but the lib-turds and media amplified everything, bought into the grievance-mongering, and hamstrung the Department.
And cops (eventually) got the message, backing off from having anything to do with the public that had been conditioned to hate them. The job became solely a paycheck instead of a calling to serve and nowadays, Chicagoans reap the whirlwind. Good people as well as bad ones, everyone who bought into the hype or stayed silent in the face of the hype.
Get a load of this paragraph:
- “The new policy — combined with new efforts for progressive discipline — should better ensure that interactions with police are appropriately recorded,” the independent monitoring team wrote in its ninth report on CPD compliance, published in May 2024. “This will greatly improve any subsequent reviews or investigations by detectives, supervisors, TRED (CPD’s Tactical Review and Evaluation Division), the Bureau of Internal Affairs, the Civilian Office of Police Accountability, the Inspector General, the IMT, and the public.”
That's what....five oversight agencies (and doesn't include that one that Crimesha started solely to look over old cases.) No wonder almost no one is doing police work, unless they're selling their souls to get off of midnights.
When there aren't pretend investigations going on over lying criminal accusations, they only thing left to do is nitpick. And while some of the nitpicking is necessary, much of it isn't and just serves to drive morale further into the ground.
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Every spar for chicken shit equals 3 free days on the medical don't hate the player hate the game!
Come on blog.. with the quality of what is being hired, its a no wonder that spars are up for minor stuff. These new hires are morons that have such an entitlement attitude that they dgaf about rules and do what ever they want. Seriously think most of them are on the spectrum.
This city got the police force they wanted and now the public cries for actions! NOT!
This department is doomed.
Don’t forget the police board and Community Commission they make decisions , as well.
SCC, you are spot on about why so many CRs were initiated in the past: to deter officers who wanted to make bad neighborhoods safe for kids and good citizens, but also to sow some doubt into their criminal cases.
As far as the increase in SPARs, this is only speculation but it could be based on the way they are training new sergeants, or it could be that the new hires don't think they have to show up to work on time, shave, clear from lunch on time, etc. It used to be said that you should never cause your sergeant to do extra paperwork, and if sergeants today are taking the time to spar someone, they got to be genuinely and deservedly pissed at you.
Today's SPAR saves tomorrow's CR.
Yes, a very succinct posting as to one of the main reasons that I hate this effin job! Nitpicked to death. It’s literally the reason that I do as little as possible just so I don’t have to hear it… or worse. I’ve got plenty of friends stripped andin purgatory. No one wants to work the streets anymore and for good reason. This tone deaf department and their constantly changing rules of engagement with the public have made it impossible. Just getting a legit arrestee into lockup has proven to be madness.
It’s only a job. It’s not a lifestyle or the movies. That’s the way I approach it. The bosses and their glory stories is all BS. Most never did anything. The way to the top is not with hard work.
If you told me when I came on the job that in the year 2024 I’d be making $120+K a year base salary - and over $160K with minimal OT to do next to nothing, I woulda said you were high. But I listened to the old timers early on when they said this was just another job. I quickly learned to do the absolute bare minimum and nothing proactive as the system has always been stacked against us little guys with no whack. The less you do, the less chance you have of stepping on your dick. And not stepping on your dick means more money stays in your pocket.
And here we are…debt free, house and summer home paid for, three kiddos put through catholic schools and college and quite a healthy nest egg via Deferred Comp and other investments. But most importantly, STRESS FREE and haven’t given up a single day to suspension time in 3 decades on this circus.
Old Timer Tip for all you knuckleheads who can’t seem to figure out how the game is played regarding being suspended: for every day the job takes from you, take three back from the job. There’s plenty of ways to skin that cat, just use your imagination.
And fuck any sergeant that goes out of their way to initiate a SPAR for petty shit (unless it’s an ongoing issue that needs to be corrected). But in my experience they never seem to have to balls to address the chronic abusers.
Make this job work for you, not the other way around.
Bureau of Internal Affairs Is the biggest joke on the job. They make the outcome the bosses want. A bunch of corrupt @$$ kissers.
Remember the 3L's: Look, Laugh, Leave
The lack of real leadership is the problem with the nick-picking. If they weren’t merit than they were allowed to study in non-patrol spots. Most of the men and women wearing white shirts don’t deserve them. Do as I say and not as I do. The Gold Stars are completely clueless. I would hate to think I could lose my life working for them. White shirts could be compared to trustees in a third world prison. No real leadership.
I got one sentence "Fuck COPA, Internal Affairs and this corrupt fucking Department. I've got 20 plus yrs and maybe 1 or 2 more. Presently thanks to all the LIBTARDS and corrupted POLITICOS , this job is just a paycheck and not to police anymore. Hell it's better to become a criminal now a days. I hope TRUMP fixes this country because it's been going to shit. See you guys on the other side.
Just come to work and answer your jobs and go home. I got a SPAR for not seat belting an arrestee. Well, I know how to make sure I never let that happen again. Thanks Sgt.
Welcome to the Shit Show. With Summer approaching things will definitely become interesting.
S - Shaky
P - Police
A - After
R - Report
Nice, way to go CPD, LOL! Instant replay CPD style! It’s like playing “Mother May I”.
I can’t wait to retire. Coming up on 20 and seriously considering my options.
Everything I was ever told about Log #’s is a lie. It doesn’t show your working. It makes you look like a problem person when they want to use it against you. Don’t be a fool. Try and not get them. I’ll leave it at that.
STROK Your Sgt’s ego and get a reprimand or shine the Sgt’s shoes. Sgt your so smart and we are all just goofy. Sgt everyone on the watch are just not as smart as you.
Take the ridiculous copy of the policy you didn’t follow and take your reprimand. Then say Sgt I’ll go to the dollar store and buy some razors. They will love you.
Moral is in the sewer. I guess the department and the Democrat’s want to see how low they can get moral. It isn’t enough with all the Suicides. Do the best you can and focus your energy on your family and making the best life for you all.
Johnson and Snelling are looking to have a submissive Police Department.
HB 1398 and HB 2526
Conflict Avoidance. Just do what you have to. Management wants to be petty. They need us. Sometimes they forget that. I’m sure everyone knows how to be creative and remind them.
Excuse me boss I just pissed in my pants because your fucking with all the working police. Bosses come and go. I wonder who’s bright idea this was.
Money beefs are the biggest waste of time in the department. Copa doesn’t even want them because of how 100/100 are made up by the criminal to retaliate against being arrested. Bia passes on them and sends them to cr sergeants. Criminals should face prison time for lying about their encounter with police. That would be the only thing that reduces beefs, charge with false report every single time when they lie about coppers.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISCJZavHdQo
We have to deal with crap like this and worry about our careers. The Democrat organization caused all this mess with hating on the police and DEI. Chicago is a dying city.
Well the plans for Dexter Reed didn’t work out
SCC we want few more Sheriff office posts. Keep is updated on indictments coming. Can we have a Tommy indictment clock?
Uniform and grooming standard SPARS are necessary just like any other police department.
Other departments are more strict though.
The powers that be do not care about morale.
what's gonna happen to all those bottles of neon green and orange and purple and red nail polish if grooming standards are enforced?
The nit picking always went on and it used to be much worse than it is now. When I came on the inspectors were always sneaking around in the district looking to gig guys. The last 5-10 years I was in the field before I hit the button you rarely saw them.
Looks like the governor threatened the president of the United States. Would that be https://www.foxnews.com/media/attorney-general-bondi-issues-stark-warning-illinois-new-york-governors-comply-federal-law
Unlike Donald Trump, we follow the law in Illinois," Pritzker said publicly in Chicago on Feb. 7. "Donald Trump has no idea what he's up against when he attacks Illinois."
I've been a Sgt. for over a decade. Most of the discipline is initiated because of new policies that review almost everything. The cameras put Supervisors in the trick bag all the time. Nitpicking is more like CYA than anything else. Supervisors can't ignore things like they used to. Secondly and more importantly the new officers are extremely soft and treacherous. When I deal with an old timer or someone with over 10 years on the job I can easily talk to them informally. Sometimes a little profanity to an officer who screwed up on something more serious gets the message across. The new guys you have to do formal discipline. New officers will get a CL on a Sgt as quick as you can snap your finger. They file lawsuits like a shithead or ambulance chaser. New officers can't be taught anything either. They whine and cry when they don't get what they want. They file grievances for anything. A very entitled breed of officers is here. Can't wait to retire!!! The administrative state got what they wanted. Everyone is telling on each other. The brotherhood of the past is lone gone.
When the job became a paycheck you should have left. Think of it this way, it's not a paycheck it's welfare.
there are a bunch of taxpaying, working, legal American citizens in some neighborhoods who do want the police to be pro-active, and yes, we do know it's hard to do when all the democRAT politicians, fake rev-runs and lying liberal news media make that impossible
Wrong, dummy. We get paid for what we MIGHT have to do.
If you still wanna play hero, that’s on you. Can’t wait to hear your sob story on how they’re trying to jam you for “nothing”. All this tells me and anyone who has a lick of time on the job and a modicum of common sense is that you’re a fucking moron.
One more time for good measure, chump: this job is just that… a JOB. A steady source of income and benefits. It’s no longer a career except for those with the proper pedigrees. It’s been this way for a while and it’s not gonna get better…EVER. Self preservation is the name of the game, you have to adapt to the climate. The sooner you realize this, the better.
You can thank me later… If you make it that far.
100% correct post.
This is fucked up:
https://x.com/spotnewsonig/status/1893333149809070230?s=46
Sad as your post is , its 100% true. Fucking new crew of hires totally fucked this job here and in every pd. Not a calling anymore for these clowns, its just a job
Calling exaggerated BS in a heartbeat! Dramatic stories to get all going
I'll tell you exactly what is going on. Most CL's are not sustained or unfounded but per the consent decree everything has to be reviewed. Did you complete the ISR like you were supposed to? NO... SPAR. BWC turned off early...SPAR. That's where most are coming from. Combine that with cameras being reviewed daily by Lt's etc you get a huge increase in SPAR's.
seems to me like they're acting like slave owners, forcing the work force to slave labor on even after the beatings given.
when you have the Chief of BIA supporting her local drug dealer by loaning her personal registered car to sell dope in the hood, you should know the BIA is corrupt as heck.
Lying 🤥 Supervisors should also face prison time for lying about their encounter with police (subordinates).
One problem is when you don't like my all black gym shoes and give me a spar but the guy with dreadlocks is OK. Why do anything but the bare minimum which is 3X as much as him.
Getting a paycheck is the job.
💯 BIA allowed Lying 🤥 Sgt. Francis Higgins (retired 2010/22nd District); lie 🤥(Conduct Unbecoming/“failure to respond to a burglary in progress”) to become a CR instead of a SPAR, which should not been anything because Watkins did her job and was never NEGLIGENT to her duties. BIA then Chief of Internal Affairs Juan Rivera covered up his FRIEND lies from ACCOUNTABILITY and ignored the Chain of Command findings and Arbitration but suspended P.O. Jacqueline Watkins anyway to coverup a Rule 14 violation. Note Watkins was suspended for the Blatant lie that Stevie Wonder saw through, 6 years later (years after Sgt. Higgins retirement).😳🤥🤨🧐😏🤔🫣🫠🙄💩🤡👺😈
You are so right, if I tell my troops not to do something BC it can get them into trouble and they continue to do stupid things, I have no choice ,they get written up. Remember if you take a day or two I will get double or triple that, so yes CYA my ass.
So glad I retired, moved out of Illinois, and got a much better job. I look back on my cpd career and can’t believe I tolerated all of the administrative non sense I was subjected to.
A Lie 🤥 that if was True should have been a SPAR but became a CR with malicious intent… For the AUDACITY for P.O Watkins Standing up for her self was Unjustly billed the City legal fees 🤑💲💔https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-972/263038/20230407154603367_20230407-153911-00002559-00000205.pdf
Would this be considered, “The Broken Window Theory” for Police? Enforce the little things and all is well.
Love this! Thanks for sharing brother!
Tru Dat!
Speaking of CRs the FOIA boys and girls are swimming in shark infested waters running email searches unrelated to official business. When an email ends up on the blog or some other social media platform don’t go running to buffalo butt asking for cover.
Stop complaining about the “less the 10 years on” officers. Do you enforce the rules fairly across the board? Do you write up your buddy officers as you would any other officer? Or do you only duck them out 4 hours early, and others pick up that beat? It’s the same few being taken care of and never reprimanded no matter their actions. Officers aren’t blind and see the BS.
Yale study of Covid mRNA “vaccine”
They gave you Auto Immune Deficiency Syndrome
Go read it.
https://veryvirology.substack.com/p/covid-shots-cause-immunodeficiency
Keep promoting bone heads like Betencourt and Cesario. Company clouted yes men. Ever since they brought in the educated Police the department went to shit.
Maybe if coppers were proud of their department you wouldnt have to be strict.
How do you avoid a CR number on your day off? When criminal accuses you of stuff when you were not even working? It's happened.
Retired 15 years ago. What’s IMT?
That’s they way it should be done
CPD has too many supervisors. I don’t think anyone will argue this point, including the boss.
I hope you are joking.
Absolutely correct. At this point, we have more Tier 2 members than Tier 1. They just don’t care about following the rules even after being told multiple times by a Supervisor.
With a shrinking pool of applicants and reduced standards in hiring, give it a few years, those cases involving major corruption issues will come back.
OT:
https://www.police1.com/retirement-planning-resources/whats-next-for-first-responders-after-the-passing-of-the-social-security-fairness-act
I was once one of those officers who was in the petty shit crosshairs for SPAR. Petty minor stuff but it does accumulate. Didn't get mad, threw it back on them.
One was appealing a two day SPAR. Deputy offered to let me surrender 16 hours in lieu of docking my paycheck. I declined the offer. I pointed out how it was more financially advantageous to take the suspension over surrendering the hours. A 2 day suspension on your paycheck is about 12 hours of pay but 2days comp time is 16hours times the hourly rate.
Another time I had a 2 day sentence that had to be served before the end of the pay cycle. My RDO that week Tuesday-Wednesday.. The W/C asked me which days I wanted. I took Fri-sat because it inconvenienced him the most.
The pettiness stopped.
Do the right thing...including be on time, in uniform...act like a grownup and you wont get a spar.
HELP make me understand the bidding process there are districts that show available for bidding and you pick that as one of your 3, then submit the paperwork- why tf are people that work in that district then getting that bid spot? Why advertise it as available if you know management spots will take it? Such a garbage process no one thinks about until it’s your turn to bid
Hyjacked your post as I want people to see mine but ya, don’t hate the player be patient until you see how people will end up reaping what they sow
Remember officers, [unless something has changed since I retired.]
Never give your comp-time for a couple days of suspension time.
The deduction from your check is 1-365th of your salary for a year.
This is far less than the CU hours are worth in cash.
It drives some of them crazy when you do this.
You benefit by actually being off while they have manning issues.
And don’t forget to hit the medical at a later date.
Unfortunately to some it is a life style, and those are the tools to stay clear of.
Yeah, it’s been going on for years just ask that former IAD RAT FUCK Mike Barz. He’s screwed over more coppers than you can imagine while covering for corrupt bosses, where in return he directly benefitted from those favors financially with several merit promotions and who knows what else. Quid pro quo huh Mikey? Lied to try and make criminal cases and fucked over countless coppers administratively including at Police Board Hearings to try and get them fired. Barz has been called out on more than one occasion for his pathological lying but just like the engerizer bunny he just keeps going and going while the powers that be keep taking care of him. Hopefully one day he’ll be exposed for the evil, dishonest, and deceitful jagoff that he really is and someone takes his batteries out…
True unless they may be legit. If your a Commander of Narcotics and have 850K in debt, claiming bankruptcy, are a compulsive gambler, and have not one but over a dozen “money beefs” and your former partner and coworker went to prison after being caught by the FBI there may be something to look into don’t ya think? Nah, all of the complaints are BS, right?
Grievances cannot just be arbitrarily filed for anything. FOP watch reps or WOL's will not sign off on a grievance unless provisions of the contract were clearly violated. It's simple.
Yes.
Excellent.
Communism.
Toilet is a coward.
This is proof of a hostile work environment!!!! Then they wonder why we have a 60% higher suicide rate compared to any other law enforcement agency
Big Bird the Turd
Preach! Ain't that the final truth.
Ha that's what EM did. Excuse me, newly minted Sgt EM
Not yet, but rest assured, they will.
Truer words were never spoken. I might add that they will lay everything off on the supervisor in a heartbeat, refusing to make a decision like an adult.
Why? give them what they want, do nothing, and collect a pretty big check every two weeks. They created it, the people voted for it, let them deal with it.
what you mean sarge? I just gots my hair did and you gonna write me up? dat be raciss
If a supervisor does not take the CL they could get 10 days. And this is actually factual information. So you tell me who wants to take 10 days. If you have a good supervisor and the CL is nonsense then it can be written as such. No one is going to give up as a supervisor 8 thousand dollars. Just like a blue shirt wouldn’t give up pay to protect a supervisor. Let’s be realistic. Now I know this may rub people the wrong way. But 24 years ago. Maybe. Now. No. Especially with these young guys that don’t get it. Stop chasing. Stop. Stop doing things that could possible make a boss have to be a boss. Most supervisors hate doing discipline. We all started off the same. And a shirt color shouldn’t change who you are. Protect your guys but protect yourself as well. Because a blue shirt will get 1 day and the supervisor will get 3.
SPAR is better than the lawsuit when you crash and your arrestee is not properly secured. Seatbelt also restricts your arrestee's movement more, which can only help. The arrestee's lawyer would have a nice video of his client bouncing off the cage to make sure you lose. Maybe you should look at the SPAR as a clue that you should do things the right way to protect yourself. But no, you want to whine and play the victim. If you're not going to do things the right way, while being recorded the entire time, how is that anyone's fault but yours? Did the sergeant watch you transport the arrestee? Did the arrestee complain? Did you crash and injure the arrestee who you didn't secure properly, and you just forgot to include that part so you could play the victim more?
BIA is as corrupt as City Hall only worse. Just look at the current bosses they have? Both the Chief and Deputy Chief commit multiple Rule 14’s, on the record at public hearings, get caught on audio/video and it’s proven that they made “false statements” aka “erroneous statements” aka “confusing/contradicting statements” and they were not held accountable according to CPD’s rules of conduct. Yet they both get to rule and make decisions on officers livelihoods that also may have made “erroneous statements” while being interviewed for various other infractions because they were nervous and those officers get terminated from their employment? The FOP and other unions should be all over this. A class action suit should be looked into. How is this even possibly allowed by the superintendent is unconscionable. Yeah it’s all legit. See below links for potential legal action or most certainly amusement only because the fucking Mayor nor the Superintendent won’t be doing anything.
https://news.wttw.com/2023/02/22/city-council-members-blast-police-brass-failing-fire-cops-tied-proud-boys-oath-keepers
Now the Mayor months later decides to start a task force to rid CPD of officers affiliated with the group?
https://news.wttw.com/2025/02/21/mayor-johnson-form-task-force-rid-cpd-extremist-groups-after-8-month-delay
https://www.chicago.gov/dam/city/depts/cpb/PoliceDiscipline/RulesofConduct.pdf
I don't think you know what a threat is. Pritzker's dumb fat ass does enough wrong that you shouldn't have to make shit up. I hope you're not the police if you think that's a threat. If you are the police, you don't know what you're up against when you attack me! If you believe I just threatened you, please let me know where to meet you so you can arrest me. I'd love to get a nice payday for that one.
Take a look at the breakdown of what district commander dishes out the most. Wait till you see the results of one particular district. Smh
Spars are up because most good supervisors pull them to take the power out of copas hands, think double jeopardy. If my hitting you with a reprimand saves you down the road from a copa initiated 15 days, I'll gladly be that stupidvisor. Too bad most of the whiners don't seem to get that.
Back in the day kid it used to be that no one cared about CR#’s because the more you had the bigger the Hollywood cop you were because it showed you were a worker. The bosses that were happy with your performance would make a call to IAD and make some of the beefs go away. The more egregious ones were 1/2 assed investigated and either unfounded or not sustained or shelved, left open and never investigated. Now a days you’d be a fool to rack them up working.
Indeed BIA is a joke. Just look at the number of complaints both Talley and Walker have. Money beefs? Criminal misconduct? Off duty conduct unbecoming? Not just one but several? These are the people leading Internal Affairs? Make no mistake that Walker is a snake and when the shit hits the fan she will throw whom ever under the bus including you Yoyo.
Barz has always been a one way mother fucker and would fuck anyone over just to get promoted.
FOIA department is also a joke. They conveniently can’t find emails at times just to cover up for the bosses but that too is being investigated by a certain outside agency. You can’t pick and choose shit. It’s ALL public information that when requested needs to be provided per the statute. Evidence of tampering with shit and deleting shit is forthcoming which will blow that FOIA unit up.
That’s not the case anymore genius. Haven’t you seen people disciplined for shit and the city comes back and fires them after the fact?
Yes it is
Fuck them too
Why isn’t anyone investigating BIA?
Is that how Marty Chatys email ended up on the blog? Don’t those inside useless house rats have anything to do besides gossip and leak information? I’m looking at you 🫵🏽 PE
IAD conducts selective investigations into the non connected. If you are from a particular Frat or Soro then ya’ll good.
Sometimes Barz forgets the walls are thin and one’s voice carry’s over a booth or two at lunch. 🤫 Becareful when using racial epithets because you never know who is listening or recording brotha’s. Not to make M/F’s paranoid and shit.
This 🤞🏻. Pure gospel. Pay attention, kids, and file this away for future reference.
Your CU hours are only going to appreciate in value over time with step raises and promotion(s). Don’t “cash them in” at a lower rate to satisfy a suspension. Take the days off and inconvenience the very same asshole(s) who got you suspended; they’ll have to adjust the manpower while you’re gone. And if it’s a decent sized whack? Still take the days off and we’ll pass the hat for you to help offset your loss of pay.
Fuck this administration. Do everything in your power to make it anything but easy for them to stick it in your ass. And as so eloquently stated by the above poster, remember to hit the medical at a later time that’s convenient for YOU.
Class dismissed…
Has nothing to do with tier 2 but with age- it’s the dumbasses in their early 20s that think chasing is great, that think with their other heads and not think about getting sued since they haven’t accumulated as much yet, also weak roll calls with just “back each other up” instead of going over lawsuit prevention shit I’m tier 2 but know what tf I’m doing maybe because I just left my 30s
Um no, the suicide rate is high because they’re hiring folks who don’t belong here. Add to that the whiny, soft everyone gets a trophy generation and that compounds the issue.
The IMT is a collection of grifters who someone believe they are G*d’s gift to policing. And they bill the city excessive amounts to “prep” for meetings with CPD, respond to email, etc. their billing rate is $400/hour give or take
Never wanted to be a sgt because I didn't want to be a babysitter to the relief pool goofs. Money means nothing if you lose your sanity.
Receiving a punishment for screwing up isn't a hostile work environment. Grow up, or grow a set, and take what comes your way for your fu--ing up.
as long as the guy with the dreads has it put up or in a ponytail, he's fine, just like women and their long hair. Your black gym shoes, however, have never been allowed.
And everyone wonders why the city is shit.
Today's millennial would be Big Bird's dream catch.... millennials today cannot even comprehend the way it used to be. Does anyone remember in the 1990s how you always had to wear your crown cap at crime scenes because if the news cameras showed up and you were on the TV news without the crown cap, you would be written up in a matter of days? Ahhh.... tears in my eyes
Ignant Merit Tool
Fix the broken windows but ignore the leaking pipes....
100 percent. As said earlier, today's SPAR saves tomorrow's CR.
Someone posted this earlier
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISCJZavHdQo
Thanks. It's the Mayor of Maywood being arrested by CPD for DUI.
You CPD officers were so professional. Made me proud. You were so good that the media ignored it, even when a mayor was DUI.
Very well put.
Tally is hypocritical garbage. Terrible person.Dirty.
Spot on! Ill take a written reprimand over a COPA beef any day. Sometimes you have to pick your fights.
15 days not 10
I sense a bit of hyperbole, unless you think slaves sat in a field and did nothing for over $100k a year. I'm pretty sure they "worked like slaves" and got paid nothing. If you feel like a slave, you're free to find another job. You won't though, because you love getting paid a bunch of money for being lazy and whining.
Or you could wear the shoes you're allowed to wear and you'll be fine, no matter what happens to dude with the dreads. Crazy, huh?
I'll argue it. There are actually way too few supervisors, along with way too few officers. And the supervisors that exist don't actually supervise as much as they should, especially the ones sitting at headquarters or some unit, overseeing nothing, just collecting a paycheck. When one sergeant is expected to supervise 50+ officers spread throughout a busy district, there are not enough supervisors. Arguing the opposite is just ridiculous.
You really showed them! 👀
If you get a SPAR for violating some rule or regulation, how is that anything but your own stupidity getting you in trouble? You can't claim a hostile work environment just because you don't like when the rules you signed up for are enforced. Mommy should've told you that before she let you sign up.
Educated? Who in the fuck are you referring to?
FFT - wtf ? lol no one's got a gun to your head. World needs plenty of bartendas.
What in the fuck, been on for 20 plus and worked in the worst districts. My dead cold fingers if I let anybody take my weapon. What is wrong with the new police or if it's an old timer, it's time to retire buddy.
Buddy, you made a dui arrest, congrats. No one cares but you.
Oooh you're such a rebel...a hero to your generation. Please be quiet....you're embarrassing yourself
age has nothing to do with it , it’s about being smart , you can be a cop in Florida at 18 including big and busy cities like Daytona Beach
The good sgt who took his life recently has over 30 years on. So he's whiny, soft, and participation trophy generation?
Be careful with your dumb assumptions. Emotional and mental problems have no generation boundaries.
Exactly, less supervision as supervisors work half tours. Some supervisors use the these dumb young guys as their own personal stepping stone to promote themselves, assigning them on blue card missions and prperty crime missions that places them a position to make huge mistakes such as chasing for property crimes.
I'd have to agree. The spars I've gotten in my 20+ yrs were 100% on me. No complaining about things not being fair or being picked on.
Agreed. Supervisors who were former lazy asses or house mice. Now supervisors but bigger lazy asses and bigger house mice.
We want you in Mt Greenwood!!!
Jackie, if your stupid ass is going to file at the Supreme Court of the United States, you should have had someone proofread for grammatical errors. Also, leave the ebonics out of it. You were a lazy mutt in 022 which is probably why the Sergeant got the number. Further, your lawsuit contains no evidence, just suppositions based upon your racism and black bunker mentality.
How do miss zoom traffic court? You could literally be getting a blowjob while on a zoom call and no one would know. Imagine getting paid for getting a blowjob and testify on some bs traffic.
It's shameful that adults who make close to or over 100k can't buy the correct uniforms. There's always some copper out there looking to buy the cheapest or unauthorized shit they can find. Pos and Sgts wearing polo uniform shirts even though their not in the bike unit. Wearing the quarter zip pullover with just a t shirt underneath. I recently saw a Sgt with a sweater on with a hole the size of a softball. What a fucking joke. Or what about the guys and gals who tint their Jeeps, including the windshield and then go out on patrol and stop Joe Citizen for the very same thing. No sympathy from me when you get a SPAR.
Like one of my Sergeants used to say to the inspector... It's Only Paypa. God Bless You Sarge.
Amen. Only problem is you have to make the days up for the pension.
I got sparred once for missing court I got a day. I was dissapointed that was all I got.
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Dead nuts on accurate…. Well said
Just a different perspective but I have had in my career several incidents where a spar was initiated instantly by lt or dc and accepted within 24 hrs. Why? Becuase once a violation is sparred. No further discipline can be done i.e. no cr #. I have also used this at times to protect in cases of good faith errors for the patrolmen under my supervision. Not saying this is what is going on since I really don't see the current leadership protecting officers but it is doable.
Be quiet, you have enough to worry about.
Also doesn’t help when you have blowhard inspectors sitting at a desk at court check in with Sgt SELLyoursoulERS and writing up officers for “ghost infractions” meaning the inspector doesn’t confront or inform the officer of the infraction instead obtains the credentials of said officer from the court admin and proceeds to write the officer up for bullshit. You find out later you’ve been written up upon your return of your next tour, ask me how I know. No fuckin balls on these cowards, keep carrying the water for Snelling and driving morale further into the abyss. Also good luck getting officers to show up to court!
Most supervisors aren’t doing anything for their subordinates.
More spars should be issued. If that corrects behavior before those coppers get out of hand the supervisor saved their career literally. They may be too stupid to understand though and bitch about it.
Maybe they should be in compliance then instead of looking like bums. Show some fn pride and dress accordingly. Quit bitching about dumb shit and do your job.. . which includes being professional and following general orders along with rules and regulations. Till then, cry me a river about morale goof.
Show up to court in full uniform and it won’t happen. Your story would be different if the infraction wasn’t true. If it wasn’t true then dispute it, but if it was and it likely was, it’s on you.
You’re mad because YOU were out of uniform?
So everyone should be in uniform, just not you. Got it.
Having a legitimate bump card and still getting written up for “styling” your beard is laughable. My uniform is always on point and unlike half these fat slobs on this job, probably including you, I carry myself well. Writing coppers up for petty shit like this is a joke. Morale probably should be a point of concern when you have coppers blowing their heads off at the highest rate in the country here, goof!
Spars are up because Larry Snelling cares more about uniform standards and giving his buddies something to do, than he does about tackling issues in this department that actually matter ie crumbling facilities, vehicles in disrepair, are hands tied behind our backs with oversight and policy, and the highest suicide rate in the nation to name a few more pressing matters
Correct. If more spars were handed out, more people would follow the rules, resulting in fewer spars eventually. It's just how things work. Everyone has gotten away with so much for so long, that now they piss and moan when they get a legitimate spar for something they've been doing wrong for years.
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