Time for Some Accountability
Hey "Consent Decree" people - how about firing some of these medical abusers?
- Recently, there was a disabled sergeant on the Police
Pension Fund agenda who is in danger of losing her benefits. Let me be
clear she is not above everyone else. Every officer receiving disability
benefits is required to attend an annual physical examination, yet she
refuses to comply.
What’s even more troubling is that the injury she is now claiming is not the same injury for which she originally received disability. Her original injuries had healed. Now she claims she cannot see the Pension Board’s doctor because it gives her PTSD.
This is exactly the kind of behavior that undermines the system for officers who are legitimately injured. Meanwhile, as mentioned in the post above, there are officers on no-pay status who are clearly not fit for duty and are struggling through the proper process. Situations like this damage the credibility of the disability system for everyone else.
If someone is deliberately abusing the system, there should be consequences. Cases like this should be investigated thoroughly, and if wrongdoing is found, appropriate charges and legal action should follow. Pay back the Fund.
A few years ago there was a concerted effort to have a Medical Integrity Unit to investigate abuse. It rapidly went away due to "demographic" revelations about exactly who was abusing the medical and at what rates.
People like this are going to lose the Medical Roll for others who truly need it.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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The abusers should be ashamed.
But the won't.
I’d like to solve the puzzle!
Yes they absolutely need to crack down on the people that abuse our great benefits.
Never vote to allow the city to take away our great medical benefits.
I do use the medical when I am sick and had surgeries. To some veterans they think using the medical when you are sick that you are abusing it and that’s not correct. That old mindset is terrible. Also, I bet back in the day when manpower was great, those veterans just dropped slips to take off when they were sick. Also I’m sure some lieutenants just tossed those slips in the trash as long as they liked you. I laugh when I hear from veterans I got 20 years on, I got 25 years on and I never used the medical.
Who cares. Screw the department. They hired her knowing she couldn’t do the job. No deal with it.
The revelations revealed that’s it’s the usual suspects. Of course. There should be a MIU for OEMC but it would yield the same results. OEMC bleeds overtime money from the medical abusers and FMLA scammers.
Nothing will ever be done to change the abuse. Even when the pension board gets it right, people still get paid out for being able to manipulate the system. Why even bring it up anymore, seems like a waste of posting space.
You’re arguing 2 different things, medical integrity unit went after officers abusing medical rolls once they were granted disability, that unit washed its hands of the case. Also, duty disability is state law, you’d need the legislature to amend it to get rid of it, good luck getting that gaggle of clowns to agree on something like that.
must be gardner from 2 more time in the medical then work
How can this head case make sergeant, or even get hired in the first place for that matter? Let me guess…..
We all know it’s always the same people abusing the medical. Are they connected, they must be to get away with it. I remember being ordered to go down there a two days after abdominal surgery. The reason I was ordered was I called them and told them it would probably another week before I was able to move and see my surgeon. They didn’t care about the physician’s report. When I got there they even had a sergeant waiting in case I didn’t cooperate even though I was a sergeant. The nurse who processed me was illiterate and she was unfamiliar with common medical terms. It was a painful ride to and from the medical section. I was not an abuser if I had a minor aliment I took time due and would not go on the medical. The only thing I can surmise was that I argued with them on the phone asking to come in at least a week after the surgery. That was about 20 years ago, do they still screw over people?
Create a new unit for a few detectives to investigate medical and disability abuse/fraud to catch the scammers and save our money. Fire, prosecute and sue the scammers. It's sad that officers with cancer and other serious illnesses show up for work every day, but there's officers scamming the system.
It would be nice to see her prosecuted criminally if there is fraud.
Just like when she was on the job. Useless and crying racism. How about Detective Matias who intervened in a man killing his wife, took a ricochet from a fired round, and is now in a no pay status cause the board hasn’t approved his Duty disability yet. wtf are they doing down there???
This is just embarrassing. Drag hers out for years. Clown.
Her PTSD will disappear as soon as her benefits are halted until she complies with the rules.
And the cheaters complain when Mike Lappe had investigators looking at a lot of them and they got denied! A bunch of scumbags that have used the system and then they cry about it so many of them got caught working other jobs after they got undeserved disability nothing but trash
The demographic revelations of this last study were also revealed in a study did around 1984 on who uses the medical roll, by rank and by race and by sex. That study also was placed in a drawer never to see the light of day.
Cmon scc, don’t hate the player, hate the game!!
Woah woah woah. Who do you think you are looking for accountability in the Chicago Police department?
Don’t forget to mention the “light duty” abusers. If you can workout, hit the streets like the rest of us or go find another job.
Awww you poor little guys. You think this dept and city are legitimate.
Don’t worry you buncha clowns, things will get better for you
This Sgt is seeing the wrong DR...sounds lke shes more mentally fucked up with bruised feelings...time to release her from this Dept..Officers like her ( probably merit) is whats ruining this force.
The Sgt refuses to go because they will not find anything wrong with her and she's more afraid of having to actually go back to work. If shes refuses then put her on no pay status.
One does not simply “fix the medical”
Lots of scam artists out there. Suburbs usually give 1 day a month medical. But then again, If you get cancer it’s good to have 365 medical
Seems about half the department is unfit for duty.
There is a lawsuit going on in Riverside, California where there are three allegedly 100% disabled military veterans who are serving as police officers, with a couple of them on the SWAT Team. Makes you wonder what the VA considers 100% disabled?
Now...if they back off the nails and hair rules.....
Maybe...Just maybe...She'll come back....
Mean time....
You go girl....
When you hire DEI what do you expect....
PTSD for seeing a doctor?
No keeses for her!!!!
Hey dumbass...........disability comes from the pension fund......not the city.
100%. These useless old timers are a buncha morons. Utilize your benefits!!!!
Exactly!!! Stay low f- this city.
Who cares. She is just one of a third of the department that get paid to do nothing.
Or play in a basketball league
I swear, some people just don't know the difference how our pension system works.
After reviewing the agendas, the only thing that really stands out is a female sergeant who ran for Secretary of State against Alexi Giannoulias while she receiving disability benefits.
I’m not sure how everyone else feels about that, but it raises a fair question. If someone is well enough to campaign for statewide office and work in that capacity, it seems reasonable to ask why they wouldn’t also be able to perform a light-duty desk assignment.
These are exactly the kinds of situations that deserve closer scrutiny. Accountability and consistency matter, especially when it comes to disability claims and maintaining public trust in the system.
I think people know
Why all the hate?
Fun fact: If you're a 100% disabled veteran, you pay no real estate taxes.
Michell Turney, a true example of 100% fraud. Sued the board doctor and a trustee claiming she got PTSD after being told she was lying.
Good for you for never having experienced a broken bone, bad car accident, cancer or a heart attack off duty…I suffered a broken shoulder, broken leg and a degenerative eye issue that required major surgery…was I a medical abuser
I'm white and would disagree somewhat about the "demographic" of people who abuse the medical, light duty and disability. With over twenty years on, I know more white people abusing and defrauding all three options. They are scum and have always been full of shit. The Department and pension board does nothing, even if you report it. It's always the ones who were scammers from day one who end up profiteering from their bullshit while everyone else works and pays into the pension.
As for the newer Officers who hit the medical for headaches and minor colds, you are weak and no one respects you. It is one thing to use the Medical when you really need it, but to go on and off of it ten times a year is not utilizing your benefit, it is being full of shit, weak and a terrible co-worker.
F&$€£# Lappe
Working split tours is not just abuse but Theft.
Supervisors doing this every night. They dont have to be on medical to scam the system.
Please don’t say stupid things about a situation You have no clue about. Officer loses his hearing in a shootout, chooses to work limited duty instead of eat up Pension funds. Healthy enough to hit the gym, but definitely shouldn’t be on the street. The number of those officers out there with similar stories are more than you are aware of because they don’t advertise. They just come to work, do the job that they’re capable of doing, collect the paycheck and keep their mouth shut. You could learn a lot from many of them.
How about starting their own business while collecting 75% tax-free with other benefits included
Take a look around.
Patrolmen, Detectives, Sgt’s, Lt’s, Capt’s.
A bunch of goofs in all of those ranks!
I think it’s mandatory to be a idiot to wear a gold star!
You get the sniffles and hit the medical...I can't believe we raised a generation of pussies.
-25 year vet
just because she worked for my re-election many times has nothing to do with her getting on the job and promoted
sincerely:
your local democRATic alderman
hey man, I'll let you know that my bump card is legit, and I was fittin to get me another one
Wow, that’s terrible.
A lot of people misunderstand what a 100% VA disability rating actually means. It’s not a blanket legal declaration that someone is completely incapable of working or performing a job.
A VA disability rating is an administrative benefits determination, not a general legal finding of disability for all purposes. The VA is determining eligibility for compensation based on service-connected medical conditions under its rating schedule.
Because of that, a veteran can be rated 100% by the VA and still be legally able to work in many situations. The rating mainly affects VA compensation and benefits, not whether someone is employable or fit for a particular civilian job.
Makes you wonder how many pussys on this job didn’t serve during the country’s time of war? Maybe take a few IEDs and watch your friends lose their fucking legs and then you can get va disability too
Mind your business. Just because someone can exercise doesn’t mean they are not injured. Exercising is great for your mental and physical health. I do agree there are officers that are abusing the light duty because they are afraid to go back on the streets.
Oh you mean the department that suspended officers for having Disabled Veteran plates they were legally entitled to, then doubled down and moved to terminate them when it was pointed out that a 100% VA rating has nothing to do with whether someone can work?
VA disability ratings compensate service-connected injuries; they are not a determination of fitness for duty. If those officers passed their department medical exams and fitness standards, punishing them for qualifying for a federally recognized disability benefit starts looking a lot like discrimination against a protected class.
I’m one of those guys, albeit it in another department. 25 years and probably took less than ten days. I did this because I just don’t get sick. I never thought of myself as useless, but healthy. This is a benefit to be used when needed.
If you hit the medical because you have the sniffles, you’re soft as puppy shit. Go to work, like your father and grandfather did.
Real easy to weed out the liars; make them take a polygraph exam and ask them flat out if they are exaggerating their injury, are they injured and can’t work? Was their injury caused by work related incident? This will weed out the liars/scammers and the really injured. I guarantee you those who are truly injured will have no problem going on the lie box to keep their checks coming. And those who are scammers will do everything under the soon to fight it….
Look this wacko up. She has sued the city, surprise. She also was trying to run for Secretary of State as a republican. She said if elected, on day one, she would throw out the results of the 2020 election. She would also get rid of all election machines by selling or dismantling them and then go back to paper ballots. Her petitions were challenged and she was thrown off. Compete goof!
Things that never happened
As a dinosaur I have a story. When I was OTJ I had neck injury, the orthopedic doc put me in a neck brace for 2 weeks. I called the medical section and asked if I could work the desk or some other inside job, NO!!!. Had to go to the med section with a report from the ortho guy describing the injury and justifying the neck brace. Showed up with the report as ordered. A med staff member came in took the report and opened my medical file. There was nothing in it, 25 or so years and no medical history. She was somewhat amazed and then showed me a med file of an officer with less than 3 yrs on and it was about 2 inches thick. The medical staff person said you got 5 weeks off, you deserve it see you in 5 weeks. Didn’t have to stay at home, no home visit by a sergeant, no phone call to the medical section, nothing.
^THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your story is really inspiring….. but here’s the real story… The medical staff person who said “you got 5 weeks off” didn’t just give you free 5 weeks. All she did was read the doctor’s note which specifically prescribed 5 weeks of rest. Even if you bounced into her office on your head with that brace on it still would have been 5 weeks off. But how could you know if you’ve never been on the medical. Or maybe you worked inside since probation. Either way, cool story bro.
Report them to BIA. Any supervisor on the sheets for a tour of duty should be at their respective roll call and check off. If they're not, and you notice a pattern, say something to BIA. Why? Because you're expected to be at roll call and check off, why would a supervisor, who is paid more, not also be required to be at both?
Actually, she sounds like she knows what is really going on with our election system. Like Joe Biden admitted,
“We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”
Those on disability are paid from the city. Not the pension fund !
You get 60 percent. 75 percent the first year then it drops. Don’t put everyone in the same boat
I’m not hating on those who use the medical for Legit reasons at all. I use the medical myself when I need to. Also I’m not soft as puppy shit, but when I get a bad sickness. I get weak and I will not go to work if I can’t defend myself or others.
I’ve gone to work multiple times with mild colds in my career. Unfortunately I get sick multiple times a year, some mild illnesses and others more severe than mild.
Thank you for saying that and bosses want to talk about us for going on the medical when a lot of sergeants and lieutenants are committing crimes.
I never feel comfortable when a boss pads my slip. I’m not a criminal.
I’m very grateful that we get to check off early but I think it’s time for, when working overtime that we have to swipe out.
A police officer, sergeant and lieutenant in Baltimore recently got arrested for basically lying about overtime.
A officer in Florida got arrested for basically the same thing.
Also in Massachusetts years ago bunch of state police got in trouble for basically the same thing getting paid for hours they didn’t work.
I still can’t believe it’s happening today on CPD, it’s time that it ends. We are the police and suppose to uphold the law not break it.
#swipe out for overtime
#Be honest
I’ll take a polygraph today.
Abusers should de fired , charged with fraud.
Need an outside civilian agency to catch , fire and prosecute those that abuse CPD medical.
The no home visit, didn’t have to stay home is because you were made ambulatory.
Retired for a few years here. Similar thing happened to me. Was on medical twice for 8 days total in 28 years, I’m not special for that, and I consider myself blessed that I just rarely got ill or injured enough worse than a cut or bumps and bruises that come with just doing the job to have to take off. I personally felt it was stealing to scam the system if I could still do my job safely, besides, I had a good chunk of time on the books throughout my career and if I needed to extend a weekend or hook up two weekends or whatever, the watch secretaries I’ve dealt with were usually accommodating.
Towards the end got hurt IOD and was off eight weeks. Person at Medical Section had my file in the palm of his hand and was going up and down like he was weighing it, and says there is nothing in it but a few pages and then said there are files there that are as big as encyclopedias. I understand there are legit cases where someone’s file is thick due to catastrophic injury or illness, and those are exactly the cases that should benefit from the system we have, but there are many scammers too, which was what the Medical Section person was trying to convey to me.
There were brief moments during my time on the job when I thought to myself after seeing some of the shenanigans going on that maybe I was the fool for not abusing the system too, but then realized, to thine own self be true was the better path.
Remember that when you cry to a supervisor about having to leave early anf you're denied, or calling the wol because you gotta miss court and you're told no...go to court. Bunch of fn p u s s i e s
So says the bitter lifetime blueshirt lol .
Sgt EG from 007 got kicked off of the Pipes and Drums. He hit the medical…… Again! Piece is shit has more time on the medical than on the streets.
Dork
Nice try clown. She was running as a Democrat.
Trustees do your damn jobs!! The Pension Board has a duty to enforce the pension code fairly and consistently. If an officer receiving disability benefits refuses to see a Pension Board doctor, as required by the code, why has the Board allowed this sergeant to ignore that requirement for the past five plus years without consequences?The Board should be filing charges and requiring repayment for the years she failed to comply with the mandatory medical examinations.At the same time, the Board has ordered another disabled officer who lives in Indiana and has had a leg amputated to appear before the Pension Board doctor. If someone with such a severe and obvious disability is still required to comply, what makes this sergeant any different?
Reply to guy that says things never happened
I had to go down after surgery on my hand. Had a plaster cast on my left/shooting arm. Female tells me I can work with a cast…….
Responded nicely , think you better check with someone on that
Other than 2 surgeries, I had a total of maybe 10 days on the medical over my 33 years. The medical policy is a great benefit, but the abuse throughout my career was obvious and I'm surprised the medical still exists.
The medical integrity unit does need to be reincarnated in some form or fashion, and yes, years ago guys would rather drop a slip for a day than deal with the medical section.
Be safe!
Said supervisors throw the blue shirts a bone once or twice a week with 3 or 4 hour ducks. I’m fine with that as long as I keep getting mine.
The abuser should be fired. If medical abuse is discovered it hinges on the fringes of theft, so there should be zero tolerance and anyone found to be abusing or scamming should be terminated. There's too much of it going on to continue to ignore it.
Take a look at the file of the fearless leader of the fop. Im sure its as thick as the new york phone book. He as white as it gets. Im sure he was on first name basis with all staff at medical.
Fuck that. You come to work hacking and sneezing all over the place go the fuck home. Don’t get everyone else sick.
98.7% of All G jobs are welfare jobs. So pumping the disability is just Flipping the Taxpayers for a bigger Grip.
This department is screwed when the lawsuit comes down. VA disability doesn’t mean you can’t work. It’s compensation for injuries sustained from your service.
Most places get 1-2 days every month, if you wanna be a company and chase stupid attendance awards go ahead no one gives a fuck. Stop
Being a idiot and use medical when you’re not feeling well and get everyone else sick you brick for
Brains
“This benefit is 75% of the member’s salary at the time of removal from the police department payroll. The duty disability benefit award is tax-free. Also, the City of Chicago will provide the member with free medical insurance coverage from the time he or she is awarded disability benefits. Any officer in receipt of a duty disability benefit is eligible to receive this benefit until such time he or she is found fit for duty, or until age 65.” Copied right from our Pension Board website. If you are the police, know what your benefits actually are. If you aren’t the police, a very simple Google search would’ve informed you better. You also get $100 per month per kid until they reach 18.
You are clearly not on the job if that’s what you think. All disability is paid out through the pension fund even ordinary disability. Why else would the Pension Board be responsible for hearing any disability cases?
You're the asshole that goes to work with a cold and coughs and sneezes all over everyone and everything and you get half the district sick. Stop being a selfish asshole and stay home when you're sick. No one wants your illness.
Before you call people names do your homework.
Sep 29, 2022 · One of the letter writers was Michelle Turney, a former Chicago police officer who filed to run for Illinois secretary of state as a Republican candidate but got knocked off the ballot after..
Sgt in my District didn't get picked up on 2nd watch Management so he hit the medical for a year.
I have been retired since 1998. I was working as a sector sergeant in a district. One of my sector cars called a 10-1 and I responded to the call. To make a long story short, I ended up rolling on the ground fighting with one of the offenders and in doing so, I injured my right shoulder. The injury was so severe, I needed two surgeries to recover from the injury. I am right-handed dominate so I shoot with my right hand. My 12 months were up on the medical so before I could be released back to full duty I had to qualify to shoot. What a disaster. After several shots, I could not only not shoot but could not hold the gun in a firing position. The range officer failed me and sent me back to the medical. For you old timers, the head of the medical section at the time was Captain Tash. For those of you who didn't know Tash, to say the least he was a terrible human being. He looked at my qualifying report and called the range officer, and he ordered the range officer to re-test me again. I went down to the range and failed again. The range officer to his credit refused to clear me for street duty. Tash got ticked off and recommended me for light duty. At the time the only light duty assignment for a sergeant was in the call back unit. I was assigned to the call back unit but as luck would have it, I ran into a Deputy Superintendent who I had previously worked for. After hearing my story, he made a phone call and I wound up being assigned to the training division. It took me months of rehab but after 11 months I was cleared for street duty. I returned to the district where I was previously assigned to and went back as a sector sergeant working the street. I am not against having officers working light duty such as was in my case. I could perform a function, but not as a street supervisor. I don't know this particular sergeant but back in the day if the likes of Tash were still around, I would venture to say she would be fired.
finally, someone names name and not initials.
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