Another Ridiculous Payout
Crispus Booker, who has since moved from Chicago, was sitting on his porch in the 6800 block of South Talman Avenue when he laughed at two police officers who had been chasing a suspect.
As they went to arrest him, he pushed one of the officers and ran, said his attorney, Jon Loevy. The officer who was shoved [...] chased Booker and fired, striking his right hand. Booker was lying on the ground with his hands raised when Livergood fired again, according to a lawsuit Booker filed.
The bullet traveled through Booker's lungs and liver and lodged near his spine. He lost about 40 percent of his blood and spent a month in the hospital.
Booker, who according to court records has past drug and robbery convictions, pleaded guilty to battery for shoving the officer, Loevy said.
Police ruled Booker's shooting was justified, finding that he punched [the officer] and attempted to grab his gun, Loevy said. The officers said they found two firearms Booker threw as he ran.
- In a statement, Police Supt. Jody Weis said "the misdeeds of a few should not undermine the courage and service of the vast majority of police officers who served under SOS with integrity." Weis also said he had taken steps to prevent "future acts from occurring" while keeping the department focused on reducing crimes while building public trust.
And J-Fed is taking steps to prevent "future acts from occurring?" Future acts of self defense? Or future acts of any cop ever attempting to get guns off the street anymore? We got news for you J-Fed, you're already there. Five hundred plus dead this year - six hundred dead next year?
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
99 Comments:
Jody comes from the Fed-world of black and white. He truly believes that, once found guilty, you are actually guilty, and therefore not worth any further time, effort or consideration. He will NEVER contradict a court or defend us, once a court has spoken.
He doesn't live in the real world. He is not 'our' superintendent; he is the mayor's superintendent. He has no loyalty or warmth toward us. The only loyalty he has is to that inflated, ridiculous salary he gets.
Maybe he could do us ONE favor and refrain from commenting AT ALL, when there's an issue such as this one. Open mouth, insert foot, incident three. Let's start a count.
I worked with Livergood. No matter what you say about this guy, he is NOT one of the bad ones! He lived and breathed being the Real Police, NOT a thug or what ever you want to call the "accused". If he's involved, you can believe it is legit. I wouldn't say that for everyone that worked in 153, but for GL, I have no doubt!
This is another travesty, another payout for Loevey. I'd love to know what his connect to the Machine is!
This is just another in a long line of fucked up payouts to jagoffs who are allowed to do whatever they want to whomever they want and if locked up get a huge payday.
GL is a good guy and a good copper and the shit he has been through with this bullshit shows that this job today is just that..bullshit.
Read the articles...WHITE P.O. BLACK MAN...SCANDAL PLAGUED UNIT..The truth means nothing anymore..
And to the dickhead Jody...great way of standing up for GL..could not say it's an outrage? Injustice? Noooooo throw him under the bus like you have so many times before.
If it is not in defense of yourself,your family or friends then fuck it..it is not worth it
J-Fed is a naive buffoon. He thinks that our courts here are legit.
Maybe he ought to Google "Greylord"
..and read Cooley's book.
The corruption was not cleaned up. Just moved around a little.
Last week i made a reference regarding bullshit lawsuits involving close friends of mine. As I stated before I truly believe this judge (Holderman) and attorney (Jon Loevy) are scum and very shady. This attorney is granted EVERYTHING in this court room, while the judge treats the police like scum, therefore the jury always side with the assholes. I cant believe that the department, city officials, etc.. is so blind to whats happening in these civil cases. Judges can be as dirty as these lawyers, let us not forget Operation Greylord, Gambat, among the many other fixed cases in Illinois courtrooms.
Why even bother being the police anymore?
Where do they find these idiot jurors?
J-Fed, you are just over your head. Resign and go home.
J-WUSS. Watch your backs guys.
Maybe not this case, but the message is clear if you got a gun on you don't get arrested without shooting it or taking it out so you can get shot by Police then it's like winning a lottery baby. Where did common sense go, its a rare sight in this state or country.
What are the Agg Batt with Gun numbers?
What are the gun recovery numbers?
Is the CPD really better off with out the SOS?
Everyone knows G.L. and for the Sup to say shit like that and the jury even to rule like that tells everyone to be careful out there. Fuck it let it burn. Patrol where you live.
"the misdeeds of a few should not undermine the courage and service of the vast majority..."
The lack of leadership is what undermines the courage and service of the majority of officers. I know most everyone wishes he would go away, but the fact is that we are under a consent decree and are being managed by the federal government. Coppers get side jobs and sometimes they carryover into a nice retirement gig. CPD bosses jump into other city jobs and double dip. Feds come to CPD to make $140k and kill moral. They may thought that they were going to kill crime too, but it doesn't work that way. JFed probably sees that now.
ridiculous is this:
Chicago GQ city of the year
http://men.style.com/gq/blogs/gqeditors/2008/12/four-reasons-ch.html
SCC, it looks like in crook county, crime really does pay! Anywhere else, this guy would be locked up, but not here, instead here he is rewarded for being a criminal and a burden upon society. Oh and J-Fed, your a tool, just shut up and go crawl under your desk with your think tank
Fuck the city..fuck J-fed..stay strong George
Questions arise from this case, SCC, that the article didn't answer.
This offender was arrested in possession of two handguns, yet only pled guilty to battery of the PO? What happened to the UUW (or Agg. Assault) aspect of this case?
Were these charges pursued? Were they denied by the ASA in charge of the initial investigation? If so, who was the ASA? I'm not going to cast any dispersions on the officers named as defendants in the civil suit, and judging by the paltry amount given to the plaintiff, clearly the civil jury had some unanswered questions too
(slightly over $700 grand for the injuries he received, with about 40% of that going to lawyer involved won't be leaving the plaintiff with too much to play around with).
Hey boys and girls, Its Lt. Richie Scotchbreath here.
I would like to be serious for a change. I think the non-alcoholic eggnog I was drinking brought this serious side on.
In the days when Lt. Richie Scotchbreath was just a P.O. on the tough and rough streets of Chicago, this police department and most of the working class citizens of this city supported great police work. Back then if you were in a shooting, good experienced dicks would make sure the T's were crossed and the I's were dotted. You were backed up 110%.
Today is whole different world than anybody who worked back then knows full well. Today we have a Fed as a top cop pushing for his Fed buddies to indict cops. We have a civil litigation system that allows many of the city's asshole to determine if another city asshole should be rewarded for their own bad behavior. And we have an internal review unit that is drooling from the mouth to hang you for any infraction, even during heroic efforts.
Do yourself a favor. Work your tour of duty, do as little as possible. The less interaction between you and the shitbags of this city is better for you. Give this department and this city exactly what they are asking for, Nothing.
The days of believing the cop's side of a story is over. A 12 page rap sheet asshole gangbanger carrys more weight to a juror than all the medals you wear above your nametag.
In the old days, most of the bosses on the job were asskickers, door kickers and lock them up mother fuckers. Today, most of the bosses are politically connected desk jockeys who have had less felony arrests than a security guard at Wal-Mart.
And when you get done with your tour, stop by TR's Pub in Mt. Greenwood. At least there you can hear some stories from the good old days and have a little taste of what this job use to be. Hell, Capt. Jimbo Spratte can fill you with more police fables than Santa can fill your Christmas stocking with coal.
Damn, I almost made it through this post without any comical material.
Sincerely,
Lt. Richie Scotchbreath
p.s. Yes, Eggnog does give me the winds.
Rule #1:
Shoot to kill. Once it is determined that you are lawfully allowed to shoot somebody, it doesn't matter if you shoot him once or 60 times. Dead man tells no bullshit tales.
Rule #2:
Make sure you follow rule #1!
None of my kills ever collect a nickle from this city or lived to testify against me in a civil trial.
And he will broke or dead from a drug overdose within 30 days. But he will have a nice fancy car.
Yet another reason (as f I needed one) to put on the blinders and just collect a paycheck
Pro-Active Policing belongs in a museum right next to the Model-T or a dinosaur fossil
OFF TOPIC:
I read the blog often but I just hit the comment buttons on the blog for the first time in about a year and now remember why I hadn't. I just have to say that because leaving a comment is free, it doesn't mean you have to. If you have nothing INTERESTING or FUNNY to say, shut the fuck up. Try reading these comments while pretending not to be the Police (and there are alot of those people who do), it's pretty sad. There's too many babies who need to stop crying or acting tough just because they have a star in their wallet. Act like the fucking Police.
he laughed at the cops ..then they went to arrest him ....
is that the defense lawyers version or what's going on here nickelnuts?
again---why is anybody doing pro-active police work???? only if the suckup tact team, TRU, and MSF would follow suit, then we could stand as 1 against the dept.
This idiot Weis keeps getting worse. I really didn't think it was possible, but he always seems capable of reaching a new low. What a dumb ass. Enough already, have some pride and get the fuck out of town.
Rule #1:
Shoot to kill. Once it is determined that you are lawfully allowed to shoot somebody, it doesn't matter if you shoot him once or 60 times. Dead man tells no bullshit tales.
Rule #2:
Make sure you follow rule #1!
None of my kills ever collect a nickle from this city or lived to testify against me in a civil trial.
12/21/2008 04:13:00 AM
That's what I'm talking about!!!
When I hear these obsurd payoff stories I wish you guys would go practice at the range. Kill the mother------! Shoot to kill!!
Signed,
A civilian
....Crispus Booker, who has since moved from Chicago, was sitting on his porch in the 6800 block of South Talman Avenue when he laughed at two police officers who had been chasing a suspect......
Okay, maybe the above is missing something? Guy laugh at Police Officers who had been chasing an Offender, so the Officer move to arrest him for laughing or what?
Where the two guns hanging off his side in full view, holding onto two guns while the Police are on the scene is even stupid for ghetto rats, who usually will disappear at the site of approaching squad cars, there's something important that's not being mention.
Anonymous said...
again---why is anybody doing pro-active police work???? only if the suckup tact team, TRU, and MSF would follow suit, then we could stand as 1 against the dept.
12/21/2008 07:52:00 AM
I agree, with j-fed making a statement like that, if msf or tru or any other bullshit unit beleives leos lies "don't worry kid we will take care of cr numbers,be the police" you have to see a shrink! Read the supts statement he is telling you do nothing or else!
Lets see eddie burke heads the finaance committee and he has final approval of all the payouts,does not stand up and just gives our money away great job eddie! Which one of eddies fleet of d-3 paid valets carries his hairbrush and the shoebox?
Anonymous said...
again---why is anybody doing pro-active police work???? only if the suckup tact team, TRU, and MSF would follow suit, then we could stand as 1 against the dept.
12/21/2008 07:52:00 AM
Hey doggie. Like getting shot at? Go ahead, hide, lie down on the job, or better yet, go work on 35th St with all the other useless dog-ass whiners. You and others like you are handing us over to the shitheads. Why do you think so many of them are shooting at the police? Face it, you're either a pussy who's scared of your own shadow, or you're a criminal wearing a uniform. Which is it douchebag?
We know who you are - when there's a job on your beat you're suddenly on a traffic stop and when PO's call for a backup you're suddenly not available.
Get some self-respect, youngster. Lawsuits come and go, and each one makes you stronger. But lose your self-respect and you become a weak, spineless moron spouting idiotic advice.
Quote from Lt. Scotchbreath...
Do yourself a favor. Work your tour of duty, do as little as possible. The less interaction between you and the shitbags of this city is better for you. Give this department and this city exactly what they are asking for, Nothing.
Yes..this sums it up...Gps...cameras.... It all still means no work....sorry!
Anonymous said...
Why even bother being the police anymore?
Where do they find these idiot jurors?
........
12/21/2008 12:33:00 AM
Jurors come from voter's rolls.
That explanation says it all.
Most of them have nothing to do, or aren't smart enough to get out of serving. Jury of one's peers. In Crook County it's laughable.
Retired in 2003 .............
Whatever might be happening with GL, it is not deserved. George trained in my District and was as humble and eager as he could be. Honesty and integrity all the way. It is a shame what happens when someone trys to tarnish an otherwise stellar career through misunderstanding or basic BS.
George you are the same person now as you were then.
Everyone should know that. Don't let the bastards bleed you of your self confidence of integrity.
025 Alum
loevy and Loevy are parasites. Manipulation of facts, turning them to fiction, and eliminating vital information pertaining to the event are the tricks they use to convince a judge or jury that the Police acted recklessly or whatever.
Wait until that skinny little cocksucker needs something, or one of his "clients" turns on him like a pit viper. Then maybe he and his firm will see through their distorted views
Why the hell are guys that were dumped from SOS and SWAT joining MSF?
And people wonder why morale is in the shitter!
When obvious dogs and police fighters still hit the jackpot against the city and police!
"p.s. Yes, Eggnog does give me the winds.
12/21/2008 04:06:00 AM"
Well said.
And nary a burp, fart or hiccup.
Don't make this a habit, though, or we'll begin to doubt your veracity.
"Act like the fucking Police.
12/21/2008 06:32:00 AM"
Which 'fucking police'?
How can he lead Patrolmen when he has never been one?
Try reading these comments while pretending not to be the Police (and there are alot of those people who do), it's pretty sad. There's too many babies who need to stop crying or acting tough just because they have a star in their wallet. Act like the fucking Police.
12/21/2008 06:32:00 AM
Really? Act like the police and suffer the wrath of department. Face the facts. It was not that bad five years ago. Hiring freeze and retirements actually hurt us. So, tell me how to be the police, the real police? I am not risking my career or pension to play police now.
Here is a clue, stop living and breathing at being the REAL POLICE, you become an idiot real fast. Use common sense, I know there is very little of it around but try.
Most of you young guys, 15 years and less, have watched to much TV and it left your brains mushy. Stop trying to be heros, that went out when grownup policemen stopped drinking.
Holy twisted bastards Batman!!!
Two of the gravest problems we face are faced with today is:
1. A two-faced back stabbing superintendent who ain't got our back when we are right!
2. An out-of-control court system and lawsuit crisis. Tort reform is badly needed here. Enhanced disciplinary system to protect the integrity of our criminal justice and civil court systems. Too many self-serving and corrupt lawyers are allowed to bring forth false accusations against police officers in the media before the case is brought into a court room. Bogus experts allowed to distort evidence and a professional jury system.
G.L.
I havent seen you in years but I would work with you tomorrow. You are a good guy and do not deserve to be dumped on by our Supe.
For all the timeshe says he has our backs,when hesays somethng like this it shows where he is really coming from. He should have been out raged. He should have said how wrong this was and how he supports the officers. Of course that would not have sat well with Shortshanks. No, we get some Bull that Monique probably put together for him.Putting the uniform on does not mke him the Police. He insults us but is too dumb to know it,or just doesn't care.
I am 48 yrs old...i have never run from, fought with, shoved or attempted to dis-arm, a policeman.
Why should an asshead get paid for doing all of the above ? Most people live an entire lifetime without doing things like that...If i am ever on one of these jurys, they can forget about a pay-out, i will never go for it in a million years ! I will be the lone juror that says that the guy who messed with the police can go f*ck off .
I thought I would never ever say this but Lt. Richie Scothcbreath is so right. I doubt if I will ever be aboe to say that again.
OT...
Anyone know what was going on on the far west end of 008 last night. At least 6 cars, lights and sirens, west on Archer Ave around 0130. Info please.
Off Duty PO
Ok,
we all get laughed at sometimes in life. Even the cops, even the CPD.
If the guy was on his own property,
or house he was renting,
it states he was on the porch, what is the big deal of someone laughing at you for a mistake? Even the cops?
are you perfect people, and never meet folks who might laugh at you, because they have nothing going on in their life?
So to arrest someone for laughing on their porch seems exessive in my tastes.
I have run into some mean, bitter people in my life, and they do stupid, crass things like this. Some has been projected onto me. I just laugh it off.
Yes the guns were found, I hear ya on that one. Still, what cause does a cop have, or he was "going to show him" for the laughing.
I guess I would have to need more detail on this story.
he laughed at the cops ..then they went to arrest him ....
is that the defense lawyers version or what's going on here nickelnuts?
12/21/2008 07:28:00 AM
You didn't see it in the ILCS? Laughing at officers in a foot chase is now illegal.
If someone laughs at you, place them in custody,transport, and process accordingly.
again---why is anybody doing pro-active police work???? only if the suckup tact team, TRU, and MSF would follow suit, then we could stand as 1 against the dept.
that will never happen. people must be in a unit. or the two year wonders (mostly Mcc's charges these days) will bring in arrest by the hundreds.
Damn, I almost made it through this post without any comical material.
Sincerely,
Lt. Richie Scotchbreath
p.s. Yes, Eggnog does give me the winds.
12/21/2008 04:06:00 AM
Yeah, real comical as usual--moron.
Jody does not have a clue;True.
We really can not blame him so much as our "beloved mayor'.
Jody is a product of our stumbling, bumbling mayor.
The mayor pulls the strings on this puppet Jody.
Jody will be gone and forgotten in two years.
"His Honor" will continue, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
"Long Live Big Brother"
ridiculous is this:
Chicago GQ city of the year
http://men.style.com/gq/blogs/gqeditors/2008/12/four-reasons-ch.html
I thought Chalkie made the list
Me on Tac. Me no work. Me no care.
Does it mean something is wrong when you catch a "real" bad guy who committed an offense against a "real" victim and don't feel good about it, because you know in your heart that the system will fuck it all up.
I mean you still chase 'em. You still catch 'em. But, it just doesn't feel the same anymore.
God, I hate this fucking department.
Second lawsuit won against the city by Booker and Loevy. The first was mine. I worked in the 008th District in 2005 as an FTO. I responded to the 6800 S. block of Talman for a disturbance with some young teens. A nice senior citizen called because her grandson was being pelted with crabapples by neighborhood thugs as he cut her grass. I arrived and was told by Grandma that the teens responsible were down the street. Grandma walked with me a few houses down to confront these teens. Crispus Booker, a person I never met before in my life and had no knowledge of his past, was there inside the gated yard of his mothers home. I tried to resolve the disput with the teens and Grandma. Booker chimed in telling the Grandma "Bitch you don't know what you are talking about..go home." I told him to show respect to Grandma and told Grandma to go home. Booker then told me he was going to kick my ass and he would take my star. He taunted me to come into his yard. Although I didn't back down, I knew not to enter his yard with all of his boys there. As I started to walk to his gate.Booker ran into his home. I went back to Grandmas house and made a case report for the incident with Grandmas grandson. (She didn't want to press charges.) Grandma then told me that Booker had been shot by the police and had spent time in prison for trying to take a police officers gun. I completed a case report for Agg Assault. A little while later some Tact guys from 008 arrested Booker without incident and charged him with Agg Assault. I signed the complaint. I transferred to the 012th Dst. prior to his courtdate. On the day of his misd coutdate at 51st Wentworth, I had a felony court date at Harrison and Kedzie. I went to the felony court and put my name in the court book for the misd case. That was it. I never heard anything after that.
In January 2006, I left CPD after 9 years and went to the state police (some of you now know who I am). While in the academy in Springfield, my wife told me a process server came to the house to serve me papers for a lawsuit. It turns out it was one of Loevy's minions. When I came home on the weekend, I was contacted by a Corp. Counsel who said Booker was suing me for false arrest. The allegation was that Booker was arrested in retaliation for the incident he had several years prior in the 008th district when he was shot(Before I arrived to the 008th District). I had to notifiy the state police that I was being sued for false arrest (nice when you are new and in the academy).
I told the Corp Counsel that I had a witness to the threats Booker made against me--Grandma. I included her as a witness in my report. Corp Counsel said she knew who Booker was and she knew Loevy was a "true believer" who thought Booker was an innocent angel picked on by police. The Corp Counsel said she attended a holiday party at Loevy and Loevy and saw Booker there dressed in a suit at the party. Well, nice added stress while I'm in a military style bootcamp. After the next few weekends of talking to the Corp Counsel and being told I was going to have to give a deposition on a Saturday when I came home from Springfield, the conversations with Corp Counsel stopped. The Corp Counsel never returned any of my numerous calls. I spoke to one of the Tact officers months later who told me that the city settled with Booker for thousands of dollars.
Well, of course I was relieved that this animal wasn't going to get any of my hard earned cash..but, what an injustice. I had a credible senior citizen witness to Booker's threats (I don't know if the Corp Counsel ever talked to the witness). Booker didn't claim any type of brutality..just false arrest. False arrest for threatening a uniformed Chicago Police Officer who was trying to resolve some petty stupid teenage disturbance (A disturbance Booker was not even involved in). I can't comment on Bookers recent settlement, but I can comment on the settlement he received from my case. Nonsense!
One other thing. On the initial courtdate (which I missed because I was in felony court), If the judge would have issued a continuence, I may have not faced this lawsuit. I have seen several times where a police officer is a victim of agg. assualt or resisting arrest and they are not in misd court because they are in a felony court. The states attorneys or court sgts notifiy the judge of the officers whereabouts, only to have a motion for another date denied. If the ASA's tell the court that a victim (civilian) called and asked for another date (and gave a valid reason for their absence) they would be granted one date...but not the police. Jon Loevey...I don't know how you can sleep at night. Booker is not a good person. I'm sure our tax dollars will be put to good use by Loevy and Booker! - P.M.
In a statement, Police Supt. Jody Weis said "the misdeeds of a few should not undermine the courage and service of the vast majority of police officers who served under SOS with integrity."
It sounds to me like this scumbag reporter took a statement made in general about the old SOS and applied it to this case in particular. If Weis did in fact make this statement in reference to the BS lawsuit, he should resign. I find it hard to believe that he would say such a stupid thing. I would imagine the Superintendent has similar approval ratings with the rank and file as our genius gov. This would be as smart as the Cozi thing.
If you read the article about promoting Dugan, a former Commander of SOS, similar points were made. These reporters fuck up every story they write about. In that same article, they give Weis credit for forming OPS when he actually replaced OPS with IPRA. The Trib and Times are so broke it appears they are having interns write articles now. If Weis was taken out of context, the so-called reporter should apologize. If he actually said it, he is a complete disgrace.
"Which 'fucking police'?
12/21/2008 10:32:00 AM"
The 'fucking police' that fuck.
Hey Hey; the first City plow finally came down by block for the first time this morning since the storm 4 days ago. Alderman Pope, thanks for nothing asshat!
I had another squad car sighting on 433 today. I was so so happy. It was the first sighting of any squad in almost 2 full days. Wow, do we get awesome police service.
Still, what cause does a cop have, or he was "going to show him" for the laughing.
I guess I would have to need more detail on this story.
12/21/2008 12:16:00 PM
Hey i'm sure George went after him for laughing...what are you stupid?? That is the reason the LAWYERS AND THE SHITHEAD CLAIM!!!I know George and have worked with him in the past and let me tell you there is no other I would want more in my corner.All this bullshit after the fact means nothing,none of it is truth.What becomes truth is what the offender and his lawyers say happened..so do not believe everything you read in the paper youngster.Good luck to ya George
"But lose your self-respect and you become a weak, spineless moron spouting idiotic advice.
12/21/2008 10:02:00 AM"
From the one who knows all about being "...a spineless moron spouting idiotic advice.".
Go gettum, tiger!
12/21/2008 01:34:00 PM
I hate injustice. Hopefully, they will all broil in HELL.
---not a cop
Telly Savalas for Super!
This entire system would make for a great Clint Eastwood film.
All the pay-offs go back to city hall. We need new blood to run our city and to stop this thievery.
I'm sure Mr. Booker is continuing to accumulate a nice criminal record wherever he's at now.
J-FED evidently has all of his muscles elsewhere and none in his head!
What a jag!
Hey, J-Fed, talk all the shit you want about supporting the officers who try to do the right thing and circumstance go awry. None of us in blue believe you. You have missed opportunity after opportunity to show demonstrable support for us and each time you fuck it up.
Boys and girls, answer your radio, go to your jobs and take enforcement action when absolutely necessary. Otherwise, let Chalkie do all the work.
Stay safe.
12/21/2008 12:10:00 PM
Drunk Mexican Domestic. Mexican had a knife but wanted to kill himself instead of the police. A lot more restraint (and commendable) than I would have shown buy the officers handling it. They asked for a taser and said that the offender had a knife. i would have had Christmas off on psyche leave.
One other thing. On the initial courtdate (which I missed because I was in felony court), If the judge would have issued a continuence, I may have not faced this lawsuit.
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The biggest mistake in both of Booker's payouts took place in criminal court. When you missed your PC hearing, you were opened up to being sued. The same problem happened in the GL case.
An officer has to follow every court date when he is the victim of a crime, especially when the offender gets injured during the arrest.
It should have been ABSOLUTELY unexceptable to let Booker plead out to an Agg Batt (hands) when the real crime here was the attempt to disarm. That charge and the UUW charges were dropped in exchange for Booker's plea.
Its always easier to let a criminal case go away, the ASAs prefer it and most coppers go along, but when the PO is the victim, he has to accept nothing less than a guilty plea on the most serious charge or a trial. Most ASAs will accomodate you and if they don't then you have to demand a sit down with their supervisor. A trial is always preferred, even if the mope is ultimately found not guilty.
That's because once a case goes to criminal court it starts a record. Shithead witnesses are identified. Their stories are part of the record and they get cross examined. If the defendant testifies, its a permanent record, and if he doesn't then his refusal to testify can come up at the civil trial. Its also almost impossible for the plaintiff-mope to suddenly produce new witnesses that he didn't produce for his criminal trial.
In the end, its the record that keeps scumbag Loevy, his felonious client, and his felonious client's friends from getting together in a room and concocting the money story before they file their civil complaint. Loevy listens, re-writes, and rehearses their stories to maximize the payout. Loevy makes sure that this "story" jives with all the evidence that was turned over to the defendant right before he plead guilty to the lesser charge.
You better believe that this is how the whole game works. This way the plaintiff-shithead has a core story he can lean on so the case boils down to shithead's word versus yours. Unfortunately for us, shithead's word carries more weight than ours with many juries.
Protect yourself. Go to court. Demand a guilty plea on the charges that justify the offender's injuries. Otherwise, don't be afraid to insist that the case go to trial. Even if you lose, you may win in the long run.
Not to put a turd in the punch bowl
But I read the story.
Assuming its fairly accurate, which I know it often isnt,
Heres my question.
Besides "laughing at the police" what law did this guy violate?
What was the probable cause for stopping this guy?
It doesnt seem to me that there was any, other than damage to police ego
Since there was no probable cause, or none that I can see,
That may have been the basis for the award
We need thicker skins
"The days of believing the cop's side of a story is over. A 12 page rap sheet asshole gangbanger carrys more weight to a juror than all the medals you wear above your nametag."
Sorry Lt. Ritchie, but the medals never meant anything either. It all depends on who you are, who your clout is, where you work and who is pushing for the award that determines if you get them. Every time I attend a Dept. Commendation ceremony now, it's all I can do when hearing the stories of why some of them are being awarded to keep from laughing out loud.
SCC, I'm not going to cast dispersions on the officers involved in this case, but clearly, everything about it
hasn't been revealed here.
I too know GL and he was a decent
and honorable cop when knew and worked with him. Having said that, maybe less is better said here with all of the details not being totally revealed.
Anonymous said...
Is the CPD really better off with out the SOS?
12/21/2008 12:49:00 AM
I know one thing, I am better off without the CPD. And that reality will come soon enough, I am in definite coast to the finish line mode now boys and girls.
Anonymous said...
he laughed at the cops ..then they went to arrest him ....
is that the defense lawyers version or what's going on here nickelnuts?
12/21/2008 07:28:00 AM
You didn't see it in the ILCS? Laughing at officers in a foot chase is now illegal.
If someone laughs at you, place them in custody,transport, and process accordingly.
12/21/2008 12:27:00 PM
What is a foot chase?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
again---why is anybody doing pro-active police work???? only if the suckup tact team, TRU, and MSF would follow suit, then we could stand as 1 against the dept.
12/21/2008 07:52:00 AM
Hey doggie. Like getting shot at? Go ahead, hide, lie down on the job, or better yet, go work on 35th St with all the other useless dog-ass whiners. You and others like you are handing us over to the shitheads. Why do you think so many of them are shooting at the police? Face it, you're either a pussy who's scared of your own shadow, or you're a criminal wearing a uniform. Which is it douchebag?
We know who you are - when there's a job on your beat you're suddenly on a traffic stop and when PO's call for a backup you're suddenly not available.
Get some self-respect, youngster. Lawsuits come and go, and each one makes you stronger. But lose your self-respect and you become a weak, spineless moron spouting idiotic advice.
2/21/2008 10:02:00 AM
KEEP THINKING YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOUR TALKING ABOUT JOHN! Yes, you John.
I concure DO LITTLE or NOTHING, because it's the people who have worked at 35th Street know that the "real" police are getting fucked. Stop by OPS Command and ask them how well the police have been treated by our city and outstanding leadership.
I choose to come home to my wife and kids alive and stress free. That's my job.
Lawsuits make what??!! Stronger?!! How much have you donated outta my pocket to the cause in the name of being the "real police" in the last ten years? Try and enjoy your retirement when the day comes, life is too short.
And if you really want to know, Homan Square is the best hideout.
BTW, grow up.
Exempt officer said...
"The days of believing the cop's side of a story is over. A 12 page rap sheet asshole gangbanger carrys more weight to a juror than all the medals you wear above your nametag."
Sorry Lt. Ritchie, but the medals never meant anything either. It all depends on who you are, who your clout is, where you work and who is pushing for the award that determines if you get them. Every time I attend a Dept. Commendation ceremony now, it's all I can do when hearing the stories of why some of them are being awarded to keep from laughing out loud.
12/21/2008 08:42:00 PM
How many medals does "general" Leo schmitz have? Can you count them? LOL more bullshit clout all the way!
"....or none that I can see,
That may have been the basis for the award
We need thicker skins
12/21/2008 08:40:00 PM"
1. There are none so blind as those who would not see.
2. What's this 'we' shit?
3. "Not to put a turd in the punch bowl..."?????
"12/21/2008 08:08:00 PM"
Elegantly put.
Besides "laughing at the police" what law did this guy violate?
What was the probable cause for stopping this guy?
It doesnt seem to me that there was any, other than damage to police ego
Since there was no probable cause, or none that I can see,
That may have been the basis for the award
We need thicker skins
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Wow you read ONE article and assume it to be truth.Were you there? NO!! No one cares what you think about it! Now please go fuck yourself!!!
WHY IS ANYONE DOING POLICE WORK?!
Here's why, because they have what you don't. Work Ethic.
They swore to enforce the laws of the land to the best of there ability.
When G.L. and G.Mc. chased Booker down it was because he had guns on him, (2) were recovered, not because he laughed at them.
They worked together as partners, one chased and forwarded the direction of flight, after which the cut-off stopped Booker and the fight-for-life was on !
Booker punched G.Livergood in the eye which required stitches, and was photographed by an E.T. Booker continued to disarm G.L. of his pistol, and to prevent the disarmament, G.L. had to shoot to prevent Booker from gaining control and killing G.L. with his own gun.
From this moment on, the cards were stacked against the officers.
Booker plead guilty to Battery against P.O. and got tcs of 20 months. When in Federal court, motions were denied by police hater Judge Holderman to reveal Booker's many convictions and countless arrests. However it was OK for G.L.'s CR#s to be presented for the jury, even the CR's that were exonerated were wrung of their juicy details. The State ASA was available for Federal court to testify that the plea was legit and leniant but Judge Holderman would have nothing of it.
This is absolutely unfair!
Judge Holderman mistreated and bullied several of the witnesses on the stad and at one point during a sidebar, was loud enough for the jury to hear "When a Police officer says "I DON'T RECALL" it means he's backed against a wall and lying"!
This tainting of the jury and obvious hatred of any officer that passed through the SOS unit was aggregiously evident and should have ben grounds for an immediate mistrial.
The stinger in this is that Loevy & Loevy came to an agreement that would hav brought punitive damage costs off the table and away from G. Livergood. The city finance committee however never agreed to any, and G.L. was left hung out to dry. Loevy and Loevy, along with Judge Holderman constantly badgered the witnesses, detectives, and officers as if they were criminals; yet they did nothing wrong. Officer Livergood confronted an armed felon for the Department and the citizenry but Booker was now rewarded with over 700K in cash, and Livergood was left with punitive damages as determined by the tainted jury.
Prior to the jury deliberating the punitive damages against officer Livergood, Loevy and Loevy were pressing the jury's buttons nd Livergoods buttons as to how soory he was for trying to kill Booker. This B.S. sorrow is synonomous with guilt; Livergood stuck to his conscience and avowed, no I'm not sorry, I'm not remorseful, I did what I had to do and I did nothing wrong!
The jury came back and said we find against the defendant in the amount of zero dollars. Thank goodness someone had common sense on the jury.
It just burns me this convicted felon got any money at all. There should be elections for federal judges, not appointments.
I truly believe now through my experience the federal court system is corrupt.
How do I attest to this;
I was at the scene of the shooting minutes after G.L. went to the hospital, an I was at the trial.
Judge Holderman is a liberal police hater, Loevy and Loevy are absolute snakes that need to be the victims of crimes by the scum they represent, and the City attourneys are worthless. Loevy, Chicago, and this Judge are all in bed together.
George, you and Gary have doen more in your police careers than an entire unit can muster up. Now drink some Kool-Aid ; you're about to get randomly selected for drug tests ......
If you read the article about promoting Dugan, a former Commander of SOS, similar points were made. These reporters fuck up every story they write about. In that same article, they give Weis credit for forming OPS when he actually replaced OPS with IPRA. The Trib and Times are so broke it appears they are having interns write articles now. If Weis was taken out of context, the so-called reporter should apologize. If he actually said it, he is a complete disgrace.
12/21/2008 02:50:00 PM
Weis didn't do shit. Daley hired Ilana Rosenzweig in Sept 2007 pre Jody.
Jody comes from the Fed-world of black and white. He truly believes that, once found guilty, you are actually guilty, and therefore not worth any further time, effort or consideration. He will NEVER contradict a court or defend us, once a court has spoken.
how do you explain the Mette case then??Never say never I guess.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
again---why is anybody doing pro-active police work???? only if the suckup tact team, TRU, and MSF would follow suit, then we could stand as 1 against the dept.
12/21/2008 07:52:00 AM
Hey doggie. Like getting shot at? Go ahead, hide, lie down on the job, or better yet, go work on 35th St with all the other useless dog-ass whiners. You and others like you are handing us over to the shitheads. Why do you think so many of them are shooting at the police? Face it, you're either a pussy who's scared of your own shadow, or you're a criminal wearing a uniform. Which is it douchebag?
We know who you are - when there's a job on your beat you're suddenly on a traffic stop and when PO's call for a backup you're suddenly not available.
Get some self-respect, youngster. Lawsuits come and go, and each one makes you stronger. But lose your self-respect and you become a weak, spineless moron spouting idiotic advice.
12/21/2008 10:02:00 AM
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listen fuckface, ive probably got more suspension time that u have time on the job. so keep doing real police work and the city will keep taking money out of your paycheck. and i said PROACTIVE police work---so if an officer needs help or if im assigned a job -i do it
Lawsuits come and go, and each one makes you stronger.
A Loevy and Loevy and Adams richer and richer.....and you closer and closer to seperation.......take your bullshit elesewhere.....
I was the street deputy on this shooting - and it was justified from every angle.
The judge hearing this case is notoriously anti-CPD and very pro Loevy & Loevy (plantiff's attys).
The Superintendent's remarks are offensive!! At least the City went to trial!
What is a foot chase?
Its when you chase feet.... You Moron....now get off this board...........
I guess I would have to need more detail on this story.
12/21/2008 12:16:00 PM
Do you think???
Anonymous said...
Besides "laughing at the police" what law did this guy violate?
What was the probable cause for stopping this guy?
It doesnt seem to me that there was any, other than damage to police ego
Since there was no probable cause, or none that I can see,
That may have been the basis for the award
We need thicker skins
-----------------------
Wow you read ONE article and assume it to be truth.Were you there? NO!! No one cares what you think about it! Now please go fuck yourself!!!
12/22/2008 01:41:00 AM
I haven't seen anyone elicit any other version of the events, therefore I/we are forced to accept that version. If they were in fact foolish enough to try to arrest him for laughing at them, and foolish enough to state such on an Arrest Report, then it seems likely that would be the basis of the lawsuit. Can you understand "false arrest?" It is pretty hard to justify anything that happens after someone is falsely arrested. Be careful what you put in those Arrest Reports. Remember that they are sworn statements.
Sounds like an order to me. Fuck shitcago!!! Let it burn. Orders from the top!
The police should have left that shit bag alone. He would only likely been killing off only more shitbags with those guns. So who cares?
Anonymous said...
Is the CPD really better off with out the SOS?
12/21/2008 12:49:00 AM
FUCK YES!
"Besides "laughing at the police" what law did this guy violate?
What was the probable cause for stopping this guy?It doesnt seem to me that there was any, other than damage to police ego
Since there was no probable cause, or none that I can see,
That may have been the basis for the award"
----The mind of a Cook County Juror
Anonymous said...
Yet another reason (as f I needed one) to put on the blinders and just collect a paycheck
Pro-Active Policing belongs in a museum right next to the Model-T or a dinosaur fossil
12/21/2008 06:21:00 AM
Just say it you do not want to do anything because you are lazy and scared. Don't blame a lawsuit just get in touch with your cowardice and lazyness, here,s an even better idea, just fucking quit.
A careful look at the jury verdict is very telling and indicates the jury credited Officer Livergood's version of events and found his actions entirely justified. Notice how Mr. Booker's attorney, Jon Leovy, said "It was an unusual and extraordinary verdict." What was unusual about the verdict is that the jury didn't award any punitive damages at all. Punitive damages in police shooting cases are designed to punish the officer for malicious conduct. The fact that no punitive damages were awarded by the jury means it did not feel that Officer Livergood did anything wrong. In other words, the damages verdict was more sympathy for Mr. Booker than anything else.
I haven't seen anyone elicit any other version of the events, therefore I/we are forced to accept that version. If they were in fact foolish enough to try to arrest him for laughing at them, and foolish enough to state such on an Arrest Report, then it seems likely that would be the basis of the lawsuit. Can you understand "false arrest?" It is pretty hard to justify anything that happens after someone is falsely arrested. Be careful what you put in those Arrest Reports. Remember that they are sworn statements.
12/22/2008 12:04:00 PM
Thank you for the lesson..Now I say again...Go....Fuck...Yourself
"I haven't seen anyone elicit any other version of the events, therefore I/we are forced to accept that version.
12/22/2008 12:04:00 PM"
Speak for yourself.
Accept whatever you prefer.
Then go fuck yourself.
I was the street deputy on this shooting - and it was justified from every angle.
The judge hearing this case is notoriously anti-CPD and very pro Loevy & Loevy (plantiff's attys).
The Superintendent's remarks are offensive!! At least the City went to trial!
12/22/2008 09:50:00 AM
IF YOU WERE REALLY THE STREET DEPUTY I COMMEND YOU FOR COMING FORWARD, AND STANDING UP THE BLUE SHIRTS! THATS IF YOU REALLY ARE WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE. FYI NOW THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED YOURSELF AND YOU ARE STILL ON THIS JOB! JP WILL MAKE NO BONES ABOUT COMING AFTER YOU AND MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO RUIN YOU. STAY STRONG. GL WITH GL IN SOS AND HE IS A TRUE STAND UP GUY.
What kind of name is Crispus Booker?
I hate these West-side names!
What kind of name is Crispus Booker?
I hate these West-side names!
12/22/2008 10:09:00 PM
He was caught in a library fire when he was a 5 year old burglar..
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