Drop a Slip, Get Paid
From the comment section, a "stupidvisor" who doesn't understand this is still the United States, even if it's in the Socialist Communist Paradise of Illinois:
- OT. I was walking in to work before my tour. In the parking lot I was wearing my ICE hat. A supervisor stopped me and told me to take it off and that I could not wear it on department property. I was told next time it will be a number. So now the department is telling me what I can wear while off duty to work.
There was a lawsuit filed in a largish police department a few years ago where the members sued over the fifteen or thirty minutes they were required to arrive at work, get dressed, gather equipment and then report to roll call prior to their shift.
Long story short, they won. So unless the City is willing to pay starting at the arrival time on the property, the "supervisor" should either be laughed at, ignored or told off in no uncertain terms that the clock doesn't start until XXXX hours and anything worn off duty shouldn't concern him/her/it.
This is exactly why the City, Department and the strokes over at COPA dropped any disciplinary actions and investigations against Officers who happened to be members of groups that the current socialists find distasteful.
Once you're off the clock, you regain a lot of your Constitutional Rights. You gain even more in retirement. And yes, we're aware of the Rules and Regulations, which were written how many decades ago? And survived how many direct challenges in court?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
26 Comments:
I’m going to say the supervisor was probably of the “merit” variety.
Just make sure it was actually “before” your tour of duty.. most walk in 10 after and into roll call at 15 after.. 1 second after your tour technically starts weather in the station or not you belong to them… I found that out the hard way.. start time 1500, roll call about 1520-1525 every day and I did some stupid crap in the parking lot thinking I was on my time at about 1305.. I was wrong.. took those 3 days……..
Make sure to get the stupidvisor to order you to take it off and then put it in writing, strip me of my "rights" I'll drag you through court with the department, I'm petty like that.
Your off duty conduct brings discredit upon the dept you can be discipled
But...But...It offends our ..."betters"....
If this actually happened, the copper needs to have another stupidvisor pull a number on this asshole.
Depending on how articulate this officer is, Rules 8 and 9 can surely apply. Either way, have another stupidvisor get the number and let it play out. Let them know you’re not a pushover to fuck with. Once they understand this, all but the dumbest will quickly back off and not try a repeat performance. Remember… Most stupidvisors wouldn’t hesitate to hammer one of us if the roles were reversed.
These motherfuckers need to be checked. And if they’re dumb enough to even entertain retaliation, be sure to make examples punitively out of every last one of them who participated.
We got enough to worry about to have these poseurs in white shirts going out of their way to add to the daily stressors. Hammer that motherfucker.
Let Sgt Chris svagina do his worst, he's a walking 5079 if there was one, document it next time worm
Larr Larr here....
When I was teaching....at the academy,...I would see a merit boss, I'd immediately start doing push-ups....
Hey...Look at me today.
I could see this idiotic department and certain bosses thinking it's a violation of their catch-all rule 2. They might even try to stretch it to some form of political statement. J-kitty got dinged for his little stunt with the flag, which was a little over the top, but not taking a political stance. Police officers are supposed to support the flag, the anthem, the President, and the 2nd amendment. That's not political, unlike the blatantly political and despicable act of kneeling in support of the bullshit BLM movement. Showing support for ICE is simply showing support for the laws of our country and those who enforce them, which should be expected and demanded of police officers. But this is Chicago, so it will be called racist, extremist, anti-immigrant, political, intimidation, etc., and someone will probably even release a cute little special order or secret memo prohibiting wearing anything or making any statements in support of ICE. You could probably wear a "free Palestine" bracelet on duty and have zero worries though.
Maybe the commander of 12 should learn about what constitutes off duty and stop calling us coppers on off duty hours to fix reports after I am already home. We get it boss next rank. Anyone thinking about coming to 12 skip you be better off in 15. And most of the Sgt’s suck anyway. And we aren’t your kids so stop that shit crazy.
Another Socialist Kool AId Stupidvisor!
Fuck off jagoff show me in writing, what I can wear off duty!
Hopefully it works out for some of the guys/gals (prisoners) at 376 stripped for what amounts to Freedom of Speech. What a joke of a department. And Cuck F0PA.
The lawsuits stemmed from the 2005 Supreme Court case Alvarez v. IBP where the court ruled the meatpackers were entitled to pay for the time employees spent putting on their gear and taking it off.
Santa Rosa PD officer sued in 2007 and LAPD officers sued in 2009 for the time it took to get ready for work and taking off their equipment. Judges ruled in the officers favor on both cases. Dress time and getting undressed is part of being on the clock.
More recently in 2016 the Supreme Court case Tyson Foods v. Bouaphakeo ruled in favor of the employees for the time spend donning and doffing.
I would of told the STUPERVISOR go ahead and get the number and left hat on....I'd love to fight that one. My last 12 years on the job I was a Sgt/LT.....would of never done anything like that.
When you leave work, your cell phone is also free to use as you desire. I recommend all blue shirts keep calling the anonymous ICE number and help out your law enforcement bros. and sisters. You know better than ICE where the vermin hides.
Without the white shirt many would just be cowards. Same goes for many PO’s. Without the uniform they’re just punks. Never abuse your authority just because you can.
The Stupidvisor probably just had his name moved to the top of the list for Merit Lt. BLM Brandon and Fatass will get hard after reading a story like this.
Out the handjob supervisor. What a jagoff.
That sounds like a civil lawsuit in violation of your constitutional rights with punitive damage.
You Sir are but a serf in this wasteland.The Department has reduced you to such and as quickly as you reside yourself to the fact that the city owns you, the easier life will be.
It's an official United States government law enforcement agency, not a hate group. Get the number coward and that person is gonna be rich.
People who are Leftists just cannot contain their communist impulses.
Is the SGT. that strict on hair standards?
What? Are kidding me? This was settled, gosh so long ago I can’t remember when. I retired in 92 from a Calif SO. We had always been required to be in the briefing room, in uniform, fifteen minutes before the beginning of our shift. After I retired, someone sued, and federal courts ruled if you were required to do something you got paid, this includes putting on a uniform and attending a pre shift briefing. Retroactive back pay was ordered for everyone except for those of us who had already retired. Pisses me off to this day. Then the canine handlers, God love them, jumped on the bandwagon, and got an hour or so overtime for feeding and cleaning up poop. The retroactive pay for them went back years. Maybe your union has dropped the ball and should get on this.
That supervisor voted for Kamala.
I really don't think any chicago police officer should wear an ice hat. Your not ice. Wear a MAGA hat. Now I've seen officers wear different types of hats or shirts over the years. If the department doesn't reprimand officers wearing black lives matter shirts to work. Then everything else shouldn't be messed with. You can't pick whats acceptable. Just be fair.
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