Interestingly Awful
On one hand, our readers have been predicting this for quite a while, based partly on our reporting that the Department is in the midst of the largest wave of retirements in three decades, but among all the bad choices, this is pretty bad:
- The Department is floating switching the entire department to 12 hour days by first period 2026 due to the outlook of decreased manpower in the future and the bad shape of current district manpower. MLAS has a draft which is going to be presented to the FOP. The 12hr schedule they are proposing is brutal. 3 weeks back to back it’s 4 12s in a row.. then the next three weeks it’s 3 12s in a row. Start times are 5a-5p and 6a-6p with the other watch being “5p-5a and 6a-6p”. Imagine getting 5p-5a??!?? You go to work about 430.. work all night. Get home about 530a.. fall asleep by 630a. Maybe wake up at 1 or 2 just to go back to work 3 hours later 4 days in a row just to be a zombie for your days off. This is not a good idea at all…
You think things are bad and getting worse? Imagine trying to figure out side job hours. Imagine OT not beginning until twelve hours into a working day. Imagine cancelled days off. Imagine trying to maintain a relationship with these hours.
Imagine trying to raise a child, attending Parent/Teacher conferences, going to Little League games or dances or other school events.
Imagine you're a two-cop family.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
271 Comments:
12 hour days?
NOPE! I'm leaving. FUCK ILLINOIS.
I’m gonna say these hours are a hard pass… 5p-5a? No thanks. There are better 12hr schedules out there than this garbage. Why can’t the department just implement something good for once?? I’ll take the 12 hour schedule, just NOT this one..
I'm getting sick just thinking about it.
I think I'll hit the medical NOW.
I do remember a survey the fop had a few years ago asking what 12 hour shift you were in favor of but they never released the findings.
Give them the Dept they asked for. Meanwhile the cute coed’s fresh out of the academy right off their rotations get a cushy inside spot with a mint schedule.
With all the negatives you list, it's dead-bang certain it will be implemented.
So will the BITCHES at Management and Labor Affairs be working 12 hour days?
Fuck THEM.
Let them push a beat car and handle the jobs involving the low-IQ democrats all day and night.
Plenty of suburbs and cities have been doing 12’s for years. Many have 10’s. It works out pretty well…. Also can’t really argue “how would someone plan side jobs.” The department don’t care. They are your primary job. The side job works around THEM. I’ve seen 12hr departments mainly do 6-6, I saw one years ago that was 3-3. Numerous departments have made it work. There is no reason why we can’t.
Lol they do it and I’m out. That just isn’t a life. Imagine getting that late arrest on the 11th hour and then having to circle back the next day
Imagine thousands quitting.
This is A 100% Guaranteed way to make people that were hanging around for whatever reason to Pull the Plug and Put in their Papers… Terrible idea!!
Poor detectives won't be making killee OT.
I’d go for it if it was a fixed 4 on and 3 off. Fop should look into that. That way you could bid for the fixed days off you want and actually have a somewhat workable schedule. 4 on 2 off is nice but very much not standard.
How about going to court in the middle of a tour? Or two hours after your tour ends on your 4th day of work?
Someone needs to think this thru
The problem isn't manpower in the districts.... it's all the manpower in phone call units, tack tickle teams leaving early, or 8 of them going down for a dopw. All the dollies in offices and HQ. Too many trainers and supervisors above 9171. The manpower is in all the wrong places
No
Fuck this dangerous, stupid bullshit.
FOP? FOP? Bueller?
I spent decades in industrial construction. Steel mills,refineries, power plants and nukes. Most jobs are 3 to 9 months either 6 10s or 7 12s outside in winter. I have worked 7 days a week 12 hours a day 2 hours away for over 100 days at a time. 6 10s is doable for awhile but 12 hour days plus commuting is plain abuse to your body,mind and family. It's the nature of the beast, it's huge money for a young person , but we knew that and signed up for it. 12s should not be forced on anyone. I saw many people killed over the decades sleepwalking thru their job.fuck conehead and larry,they caused the exodus, let them explain to the taxpayers why nobody comes when you call 911. Generational cpd family. P.s. back in the old days you had to get dynamite to get the 40 yr cops to retire.
They will have to wait until “ out of town “ John is back , with the health bike / motorcycle guy , O say can u sing , Jimmy La Scorola , Springfield PAC Man Cosentino , Big “ gotta call a guy for an answer Mick, “ and that ain’t all ! But u need a sandwich , red hots , beef , little chili whatever you need next election in two years . Don’t worry guys you too can retire like the rest of us !
I don't get this at all.. I've been on 12s for a decade, many suburbs are on 12s. It's a very nice shift schedule, I would hate to go back to 8s or 10s. But I guess CPD can always find a way to screw something up that NOBODY ELSE has trouble with (4 12s is dumb nobody does that). This just sounds like crotchety old bickering, get on 12s and free up half your year literally.
How many POs and Sgts are assigned to Unit 124? We don’t need 12-hour days, we need our own version of DOGE to find all the 3-hour work day inside spots and get rid of them. There’s your manpower.
Keep F*"!?ing patrol... Department is.a Joke.
That last sentence, ouch! If that marriage ain't strong divorce probability 90%
You want officers to make more judgmental mistakes resulting in injury/death to the officer(s), injury/death to the citizen(s), more civil suits against the City, and larger monetary awards paid out by the City, then make officers work 12hr shifts. Plus there will be an increase of Department vehicle crashes due to officer exhaustion. When fewer people apply for the job, while attrition by retirement or lateral transfer to another Department increases, will the Department expect officers to work four hours OT beyond the 12hr to help cover for the lack of officers employed? I see no good coming from such a stupid plan. All the more reason the City will push it. Ugggh
It depends on the schedule for the 12 hour shifts. For example, if we work 3 twelve hour shifts a week, like nurses, then I’m all for it.
Also, a lot of suburban departments work twelve hour shifts. I’ve heard of departments working 5 days one week, then 2 days the next week. I’ve also heard of some working 4 days one week, then 3 days the next week. I’ve also heard of departments doing 4 days, then 3 days, then 2 days, and repeating. Yeah the shifts are longer, but you have more days off.
BAD idea. was lucky enough to do the 10 hours- years ago in 020---but my youngest in college and my significant other was working days---LOVED the 10 hours - especially the days off--but man it could be a slog if any OT cropped up.
Plenty of suburban departments are on 3 Day 12 hr schedules with every other weekend off. How is CPD not able to manage that type of schedule?
Imagine having to go to court....
The department is ran by @$$-holes. I hope the FOP gives them nothing but a bad time.
Who thinks this is a good idea for people trying to get stuff done out than work. For some it might work but for others it isn’t. Going to court after midnights is a disaster for anyone. I bet this causes more people to retire.
That would be enough to push me out the door! KMA!
My district is fully staffed. All 3 watches
Is there anyone on the 5th floor with common sense? It seems like the department is being run by 3rd graders. Constantly making insignificant changes. Demoting dedicated bosses that are loved by their community members, officers, local politicians and keeping the incompetent and corrupt.
I heard the CPD going to 12-hour days is nothing more than an attempt to bolster the failing restaurant industry here in the city. I’m going to be spending a lot more of my paycheck buying meals while on duty. Rangers like us don’t eat cold a** sandwiches and fruit cups. {Honk Honk} Clown World
Sounds good to me!!
With 12 hours, this schedule is worse than Arlington Heights PD. AH works 6 on, and this schedule would be only 4 on.
2027 cannot come soon enough.
Imagine the entire department hitting the medical.
Texas has 12 hour days. Some agencies have mandatory 60 hour weeks.
Think of your pension.
Before such measure is even entertained, all inside / desk spots should be scrutinized.
There are lots house mice, supervisors alike, on district desks, academy, homan, and HQ.
Lots of "activity" based units which work half tours for blue cards.
Lots of no job "mission" cars on the watch.
12 hour days in a suburban PD is not the same as 12 hours in CPD.
Don't forget the unpaid lunch?
It sounds good until you have to be there the full 12 hours. Anyone that thinks this sounds great, more time off, be careful what you wish for. Especially when you get that late job and now you're there well past 12 hours.
Who or what kind of retard thinkers come up with schedules like this for officers? 12 hour days for four straight with the hours being 0500-1700hrs or 0600-1800hrs? Can you say burnout or exhaustion in a few months? We can’t convince people to apply to be an officer with the schedule we have now and they want to change it to 12 hour days? The lack of common sense never ceases to amaze me.
I need the FOP to fight this. Take the city to court. Or make it 10 hours day.
The city has manufactured this need for 12 hr days since they decided to cut the police personnel out of the budget for years. Now they are crying saying we don’t have enough police to man 3 watches. I’ve been on the job long enough to remember the 6-2 schedule so fuck 12 hour days
Terrible … JJ couldn’t do surveillance that long in the 050 parking lot
So work more hours for the same pay. More accidents , IOD’s, CR’s , cops getting hurt, mental wellness down the drain
Good luck the department will end up with a shortage of officers working 12 hr days do to everyone leaving
Fuck that
Sounds like they need some part time officers
Who the fuck came up with this idea? Just another way to "defund" the police. Is there a police officer out there that would like these hours? There won't be a police force.
The City of Chicago and Chicago Police Department don't care anything about you and that's being polite. You are a servant to them who is unappreciative of their generosity. They've done everything in their power to ruin the city and department. This will be a complete disaster. The young ignorant know it all officers will want this schedule. They won't take into consideration family life or anything like that. They only care about getting those long weekends which will never happen with days off canceled in t he summer. Female officers who have a higher divorce rate than males will find it almost impossible to have a relationship with a non officer. Those who don't remember the 6/2 days will be in for a rude awakening. I started my career like many on 1st watch with the 6/2 schedule. You were exhausted by day 5 and especially day 6. Think of 4 12s in a row, yikes!!!! I'm married to a nurse she did 12's. She never did 4 in a row. She was gassed after 3 days!!! 4 was undoable. Nobody wants this job now. Think of what this schedule will do?????? Suburban departments do 12's but not with this schedule and not with a CPD call level!!
Who cares at this point?
Working for the CPD is like an abusive relationship, and the city knows they can do whatever they want to us.
We had the chance to get a decent 10-hour day in the past, and everyone hated on it. Well now here you go.
And the funny part is this, as shitty as that would be, there will still be a ton of guys who are over 55 with the time to go. And they’ll stick around for no damn reason, fighting to work all their RDOs at CTA and CHA.
Some guys just can’t be convinced to leave the job no mattter how bad things get.
but conehead said crime is going down !!!!
They do this and I just leave and go somewhere else. This is just a job. I will not let it ruin my life. Remember we only get one life. Don’t waste it being a slave to this job and city.
Anyone with two brain cells would vote no, this city wants legal slave labor and a machine to run through the means of blood, harassment, threats and suicides. You are stupid if you think you make a difference on 12's with the department "taking care" of you. Small bicep Smelling won't help you even if you lose everything.
We don't have an officer shortage problem, we have a too many officers hidden away in redundant spots problem. Get rid of the special pin cushion spots and we'll be fine!
Might as well.
3-3. You are out of your fucking mind.
Hahahaha that’s hilarious. Wait and see how many officers that were waiting till 55 pull the plug early. Absolutely no reason to stay with that kind of 12 hour schedule, it will take years off your life.
Been there done that in the burbs. 1th hour domestic arrest and then court at 1300 same day, just to return for another 12hr shift at 1800. Great times.
This does not bode well
To me this is an admission by the City that they are either unable or unwilling to hire enough manpower to fully man three watches.
hmmmm... which is better, 8 hours working being told to not chase the criminal and not fight with the criminal and not swear at the criminal or 12 hours of that???
Mass resignations of newer coppers and more suicides from those who can’t leave.
You sound salty ! Had trouble with the multiple choice questions did we ?
Check with the current suburbs. I'm retired and work a few days a week in a suburb. MLAS should look at their schedule. Work 2, off 2, work 2, off 3, work 2, off 2, work 3, off 2, work 2, off 3, work 2, off 2, work 3 off 2......their off every other weekend. This is a monthly schedule....work like fireman.
Get out now if possible. I retired late last year, moved out of state, and got a great new job. Life is superb. cpd is shit. Too bad it took so long to realize it.
You must've never worked in a busy district, going from call to call !
pretty sure those mlas folks work a 10 hour day---so they have a 3 day weekend every week. cant imagine how they rationalize that- must be nice.
I’m sick and tired of hearing, a lot of suburban departments are doing it, f that! We are chicago! Definitely not worth it!!!!
Leave it to the city to fuck this up! I work for a suburb now and we currently have 12 hr shifts. We work - Mon,Tues, off - Wed, thurs, work - Fri, Sat, Sun and then flip to be off - mon, tues, work - wed, thurs, and off - fri, sat, sun. A lot of guys take the wed, thurs off the 2nd week and get 7 days off in a row. We also start at 6a-6p and 6p to 6a. You end up working 14 days in a 28 day period. Its awesome!
Please don’t compare suburban departments to CPD, total different animal - call volume, types of calls, number of employees, type of employees, management etc…. All have to be taken in consideration to make a schedule considerations.
Yep, work those officers to death. Less pension checks to pay later.
The Lts in 005 had to work 3-3 bc there were only 4 of them and we are on 10hr shift in 005 which is actually a great schedule. All that while Saadia Carter was the only Lt of camera room in the whole city with a sgt in there doing her work. She worked solid 2 hours a day. The other ones were driving 1.5-2 hours through construction from north side by Norwood park to get there. They were zombies working 14 or 15 hour door to door add in that 005 always has some bullshit going on. I genuinely felt bad for them. No wonder we had 50+ bid out as soon as they could over the years.
True plus a brand new police spec take home car! Working 9 to 5!
Ive been on 1W for over 10 years. Time for an early retirement and move on to another industry.
Let me get my IROCC, retired credentials, 3k comp time, and deferred comp.
Last man flush the toilet please.
same here!!
don't go to court LMAO
The Department cannot just implement 12 hours days. They have established that this has to be negotiated with the Fop when they got rid of the 6-day schedule and changed it to the 4-2. What they want and what they can do are two different animals. Now they could go to 12 hours days because of manpower, but they would have to pay overtime.
A lot oh house mice because 95% of the gold stars can’t write a coherent sentence.
I hear that the teachers will be going to a 4 hour day, it all balances out.
The city can decide our schedule without any need for the approval of your “union” or you.
If it happens, demand an 'until'. This is a management problem that is going to pushed down to become a worker-level problem. Once management feels no more pain, effort to fix the emergency will stop.
When people in charge create these plans, they'll claim it is under 'emergency operations'. Otherwise, Give it an open-ended time period, and the emergency operations will become 'standard operations'.
You obviously don’t know what “fully staffed” means.
Imagine having to make a life altering decision in less than a second and you’re 11 hours in to your 3rd day.
You are either a shill for management or a complete moron
Highly doubtful, how many of them could make 6 figures doing anything else
Wow. Quitting or suicide are your only choices? Go somewhere else. Find another department or go into another line of work. If you have your health you have all you need to make a move. Your peace of mind isn't worth your two days of buses, two days of housing or any other bullshit overtime you pull. If that schedule is so bad a mass resignation would make the city call in the national guard . Let the city burn. And if the city begs you to come back make them pay you a signing bonus, of say, ten grand for your troubles. And the ones who stood and took the heat? Give them the bonus too. Or let the city burn. Fuck them and fuck them ALL...
Gotta be merit or pincushion
I may be in the minority but I would LOVE 12hr days. I've been trying to get to 005 for the longest time. What they should do is leave some districts as is. Then put some district on 10hr days and then others in 12hr days. You get more days off!!!
Nurses don't have court.
This job is not for everyone.
Years ago, we worked 6 on 2 off with the exception of two 3 day weekends & rotated watches every 28 days.
The schedule was rough but the camaraderie on the watches was great.
When we went to straight watches & the 4 & 2 schedule, one of the reasons given was more complaints against P.O.'s & more crashes occurred on the sixth workday.
If that was the case, what's gonna happen on the last few hours of day 4?
Absolutely NOT where the F is that recruitment unit I am a female and can do a way better job getting people signed up for this job those goofy ass bitches up there don’t know what they’re doing!!!! There is no way anyone will accept this or would these hours work or be healthy HA people would have heart attacks from stress whoever thought of this can go to
HELL not
Happening!!! How do I join recruitment dumb goofy bitches!!!
With 19 years on, I suppose the Department making this decision would make it easy for me to determine how much longer I plan to stick around past 20 years.
Tax payers listen up! There are sgts in every unit of every district most, that “split shifts” we have so many in the north side ones that come work few hours and leave F this shit it will be a shit show you do these hours and you’ll see we have the man power bitches who comes up With this shit??? Bye!!!! Not
What I signed up not everyone is single that can say this sounds good lots of us have a life and family this just pisses me off today
1. IL laws now favor criminals.
2. Criminals are not to be pursued.
3. Officers no longer pro-active.
4. No violation of law, no pursuit, no apprehension, no court.
12-hours will work fine. (Managerial logic.)
Right mine too!!!! Stupid motherfuckers!!!! Who comes up with this BS bye !!!!!!! I’m so pissed at the thought of this today ha! We will see where are those hoes from that recruitment unit! Dumb silly goofy bitches what have you recruited? Do a no Jo tell people no COVID needed anymore!
Haha. I'm in 020. 12 hour days? Bring it. I'm bored anyway. You poor assholes in 11 15 and 7 are going to lose your minds. Good luck!
NO COVID vax needed why isn’t this advertised! Recruitment sucks and we’re fully staffed anyways who
Comes up
With this BS!!! Not happening!!!
Lol "thousands quitting" yeah right
Working 12’s in Glenview is in no way comparable to working 12’s on the west side. Those hours will get old very quickly.
12.5 hours of being around ignorant Chicagoans. I’d rather go straight and get a real job.
Be careful, you hit the nail on the head. Remember, less than 1/2 of our sergeants work in patrol. The HQBJ assassin squad may be coming your way…you know too much.
But they are not Chicago and running from job to job for 12 hours straight
Signed a POS boss that will never have to work a full tour !
Look at the university of Chicago police schedule
Way to create more division.
You should run for FOP President !
It’s time to end every clerical assignment for sworn police officers.hire civilians. End commander ranks, captain can run district and units.
Put beds in every district , 24 hours on 48 hours off We want CFD schedule.
The department needs to get rid of the 60 college credits requirement. Thousands would apply within minutes, if that happens.
The real problem CPD needs to address is: WHITE EXTREMISTS. Root them out!
Suburban areas already have it. I don’t think it works well in a big city. I also don’t think a 12 hour day is healthy. If you have court the next morning, you have to spend the night or lose sleep. People tire after 8 hours, plus reports adding over time.
The only good part is you have a few more days away to recover. It’s a way to avoid ot pay.
No one goes to court anymore
Yes and most of us got on this job with no intention of working 12 hour days. I have worked 10 hour days and while it is not terrible, I don’t want to work any longer than I have to. To do something that won’t even solve the problem is a joke. Do you think there are people that aren’t taking this job because they don’t like the schedule? Not only will this likely stop even more people from taking the job, but it is likely that we lose all sorts of people from switching. Young people don’t want the schedule, they can barely work a 9 hour day. Older people already have obligations and if it is between finding a new job and collecting a pension, what do you think they will do?
Question: can CDL drivers work 12 hour shifts? No? Why not. Too dangerous per DOT. Now you work your 12 have court in the middle of your down time then back to work. Trust me if you are involved in a UOF incident everyone will ask how much sleep did you have before. Look at every NTSB plane accident. They talk about the sleep cycle for the previous 24 hours.
12s in the suburbs isn't the same as 12s in the city. There is literally no comparison.
AH works a 72 hr week? Don’t tell CPD or they’ll implement it also.
Look at the good side. In a 2000hrs a yr work schedule you will need to work 167 days. If you hit the medical every Monday and returned to work on your first RDO you could literally stretch medical use time a little over 2yrs and not hit the streets once.
For anyone who wants this schedule, you haven’t been to the ghetto for 12s. 12hrs are a lot easier in slow districts.
Imagine 12-hour days in 007, 010, 011, 015, 004, 008....
No police department in the country with 12-hour days had that kind of call volume
Here’s a thought. Officers with families need the 9 hr shift so why don’t you just do a 5 on 2 off schedule like the rest of corporate America. Problem solved
People say there are going to leave, y’all ain’t goin nowhere
Saw the writing on the wall 5 years ago and spoke to Catanzara about this. His responses was ...."It will never happen". The buffoon was so short sighted, but now the members will pay the price.
That is what the city wants. This way, they don't have to pay for the medical for retirees. That pool will get smaller and smaller, then poof....not a contract issue any longer.
Have one who went straight to the desk. Even gets mad when they make her work the street once a month.
How do you work 5/6 pm - 5/6 am, then go to court at 9 possibly till 1-3 pm and show back up for your tour?
No it’s manpower. The fact is you wouldn’t want the 1000 officers assigned to headquarters on the streets.
Suburbs do not have the call volume nor the stress that cpd has. It is like comparing JV to Varsity street work.
Don't compare a suburb where you do absolutely nothing to working 12hrs in the west side of Chicago lol no thanks
That sounds absolutely terrible. Would rather have a fixed 7 day schedule.
Don't compare suburbs with Chicago lol
Stay in shape. Stay an alpha. Be on your purpose your wife and prodigy will be fine and go nowhere. I work 6 days a week because I live over my means. Both kids honor roll and wife does whatever whenever I say and keeps burning desire for me. I work out 4-5 times a week and stay on a strict diet. God bless dont let this schedule scare you. Done right it can be beneficial.
Get the fuck off this job and get the fuck out of the city. Don’t be an idiot.
Add in the routine of canceling endless days off in the “detail” season and poof…..you’ll be working 7-10 days straight….i mean what could go wrong. And lastly if you have less than 15 years on have fun because the department will overload the first watch hours because that’s when most of the crime hits……evenings and overnight. I’ve never seen so many people trying to work straight days or inside in my 28 years on this job. One more year to go and you can have it.
Congrats it’s great you found a new job and life is looking up
Got to be a better answer than suicide. Probably 90% of the syicides involved alot more than the CPD. Maybe health problems, domestic and financial problems
Ohhh, be quiet and go to your officer recognition ceremony.
Yes, we will, we’ll just bump you out of special employment.
At the City Council yesterday there was a picture taken with six field reps from the Fop in attendance . You wonder why when Catanzara is out of town “ again “ and why nothing gets accomplished . It doesn’t matter who the Mayor is this guy can’t get along with anyone and
Does what he wants .
No contract , raised dues , he encourages cops to leave , gets Cr numbers on his own member and people are complaining ?
The real problem is most members do not go to their Union meetings and this allows this “crew” to spend their hard earned dues money on whatever they want . Catanzara’s get $180 k salary , salary for being the publisher of the magazine ,1st Vp of the State lodge , Credit card , free insurance , 401 k , and access to the PAC and general fund . Do you really think he cares if you work twelve hour shifts ? Here’s a guy who was a malingerer who is now making life decisions for you ! Time to wake up ! 170k X 10 = 2 million per after everything else !
12 hour days is not for urban policing, just the opposite, it should be a stress week. Meaning an 8 hour day at 4 and 2 with 3 day weekends, it can be done. Big city policing should never be 12 hours.
Commander Linas is getting the fuck out of here tomorrow. AMC on the 13th and cake and coffee on the 14th. Good for you. Enjoy your retirement.
I wonder if you feel the same if you had 2 mass shootings blocks away from each other, 2 foot chases going on the same time, a house fire with displacements, dozens of domestics, a gang funeral, throw in a police shooting, injured police going to hospitals from a car wreck…typical summer day in a district.
will the commanders sidepieces the desk dollies n the caps officer working 12hrs shifts
notttt
12s isn't bad, I've done it in the burbs. But naturally the department would choose the worst format.
The 2-2-3 format give you fourteen days off a month with every other weekend off.
a friend leo in arizona 10hours is great 4/10 fixed days off bid on senority , if you need a weekend day off you can trade with somebody or switch days offs
im retiring this year can you hint where to retire to im still in the planning stages
naperville pd 12hrs 2 on 2 0ff 3 on 2 off 3 off ect every other weekend off
elmwood park pd 6 on 3 off 8hrs
hey you goofs how about 8hrs 5 on 2 off 5 on 3 off ect every other week you get 3 days off its not rocket science
Aren't there labor laws?
Scottsdale az police officers work a variety of scheduled shifts, including weekends and holidays, with shifts consisting of four (4) 10-hour days. Shifts are selected annually based on seniority, and may be changed with advanced notice to accommodate department needs.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Shift Structure:
Shifts are 10-hour days, and officers may work day, evening, night, and weekend shifts.
Shift Selection:
Shifts are selected annually based on seniority, but are subject to change with advanced notice.
Holiday Work:
Depending on the scheduled shift, officers may be required to work holidays.
Call-In:
Officers may be called during their days off to come in to work, and in rare instances, can be ordered to work regardless of their plans.
Overtime:
Officers may be required to work overtime hours to complete a crime scene, or as needed by the supervisor.
Shift Assignment:
You may have no choice which shift you are assigned to, especially during your training.
Transportation/Childcare:
You must be able to arrange transportation and/or childcare to accommodate your assigned schedule.
Speaking of changes, what is going on with the dispatchers at the OEMC? Has anyone being fired? Someone asked this question in a previous discussion, “does the discharged loan have to be reported as income?” The answer is yes (for the majority of the dispatchers and everyone else who fraudulently obtained the loan or improperly used the loan proceeds). Mr. Tax Man, please set up shop at the Chicago OEMC to get your numbers, you will earn a promotion, rise through the ranks, and make a name for yourself.
Signed,
The OG Cop
How about 4 six hour shifts a day work 5 days then 2 off only 2 day off groups
How about all the house cats, desk Dollie’s and CAPs working 6 hrs on the inside and then 4 hrs in the field?
I hope someone put Kirsten on the “do not hire list
years ago lapd had a 3 12hrs shift with 4 days off i will sign up for that
anything you spineless political hacks can go f your selves
As a nurse who worked 12 hour night shifts, I can tell you, 3 12’s in a row is tough. Doable but tough.you get a ton of time off that way. 2 12’s a day off and 1 12 is better. You actually get a lot of time off that way without needing intense recuperation.
The fuckery can start when they schedule you in a weird way. Like scheduling your 12’s every other day. And for cops, a real concern is court. You simply cannot be awake for 24 hours and not make mistakes.
One thing though: 4 12’s is not going to work. Plot it out on paper. It will leave no time to recuperate. Make the FOP stand on that.
Good luck guys and gals.
Hubs is one of the coppers retiring in May.
Who can't leave???? there are other jobs other than CPD
But what about the side piece and they are not on the same schedule?
Imagine you're a two-cop family.
We do 12 hours here in TN, our short week we work Wed/Thur, long week we work M/T and Fri/Sat/Sun. Never scheduled more than 3 days unless we volunteer on a day off. 12 hours in CPD would be too much. 10 hours would be the limit to allow for ot / late call or arrest.
It works for us but we don't deal with the BS I dealt with while up there. Good luck guys. Stay safe
Ronan
For a code wienie, either of the overnight shifts would rock.
For somebody subject to OT and expected to make split-second, life-or-death decisions? Not in a million fucking years.
Has the department ever really asked you what you wanted or cared about what you thought?
Why do you expect anything different now?
12 hours days if done correctly can be nice, but CPD will fuck it all up. I would suggest looking to work in a districe near home boys and girls. your commute time will cut into the 12 hours that you have off before your next tour.
The 12 hour day may force a few early retirements, but I dont see any mass exodus happening.
Another reason I should have been a fireman...
Stop panicking. Othet departments do it and it works for them. They arw goinf have to model our 12 hrs shifts like other department schedules .. so go buy some more TP and relax .. bunch of fear mongering
Not a cop. Our company does 12 hour shifts. They Suck! Especially if you're on your feet all day. Since we implemented it, we have had constant turn over, like 40%. When they discuss how to lower turn over, the 12 hour shift is not allowed to be used as a reason. This is because it is cheaper to man a plant 24hrs a day, 365 days a year running 12 hour shifts. It is also a lot harder to get people to cover for vacations, holidays, and sick time. Mistakes and accidents rise, and you feel exhausted all the time. It is strictly about profit for us. Which if anyone ever did a cost study on training new employees constantly, I think it would destroy the profit line. I feel sorry for the police if it is forced on them due to manpower shortages. Godspeed!
Officers used to stay until 34 years on a job and now they’re leaving at 20-25. Bosses are jumping off the boat.
When you get commanders, retiring with only 25 years, that’s bad.
If you’re a 2 cop family, you already f***ed up by doing that
I wanna see proof of this.. a snapshot of a draft or order..
The amount of Gerber Babies in here is laughable. There are plenty of towns that run call to call and handle 12hrs just fine. LA for example is a major city and guess what, they are on 12’s and they have areas just as bad as Chicago. The problem is, there is a ridiculous amount of dogasses on this job that don’t want to do anything, don’t want to change, don’t want to do anything to upset their precious balance and everyone has to go with it “cause that’s how it’s always been.” Guess what, it’s a job and the city can change hours, change manpower and change things as they see fit. People complain about understaffing and then when a solution comes up like this, it’s another complaint. Can’t have it both ways…
Can’t ask common sense questions like this. You’ll instantly get the “wahhhh but CPD is exclusively different than any other department in the country!” It’s ridiculous.
Why she never showed up for work anyways!
You sound like a complete stroke
This draft is trash
We've done that already genius
I also remember getting my ballots back on two occasions because FOP didnt pay the PO Box or we were forced to use the unreliable US Postal service. Several posts online shown I wasn't the only one.
Don't worry, our union will negotiate a big fat quarter of a percent raise in exchange for agreeing to this proposal lol.
In a 12 hr day, you could literally lock up the same person 3 different times on the same tour. Then those oversight and defense atty will try to say you have a vendetta against a person.
Its simple, have Sgt.'s answer police calls and make arrests and write tickets just like in every other police dept. in the country. Just supervising isn't gonna cut it anymore. On streets of San francisco the lt's and sgt.'s are making arrests. On Hawaii - Five O, Magarrett is locking up left and right. Get with it CHGO.
Also he's collecting his pension
Neighbor beating wife's guts.
Come Lord Jesus come! They’re trying to kill us with the thought of 12 hour days!!!!!!!!!! They’re going to depopulate CPD jag offs!!!!!!!!!! This will kill us!
Better not miss 0900 or 1300 court or dept training either
12 hour shifts can work in a very well managed and very well organized department that takes care of its officers... so no, it will never work here.
You retired years ago and you still obsess over the blog? Get a life, Sean.
Add to it 12 hrs on midnights. You're fucked.
Wrong blog, but thanks for checking in.
020 will change soon. Shitheads travel.
So here is how it works. It’s a two week schedule. You work Monday and Tuesday. Off Wednesday and Thursday. Work Friday Saturday and Sunday. Next week off Monday and Tuesday. Work Wednesday and Thursday. Off Friday Saturday and Sunday. So in two weeks you are off 7 and work 7. So in a year you work 6 months and off 6 months. And this not counting furlo bfds and personal days. By time the year is over you probably only worked 4 months of the year. Plus if you have little time on the job you can burn 24 hours in your second week and still take a weeks vacation in the summer. The important part is do not cancel days off.
Oh you mean half-ass your way thru one fuckin module of a class and have the rest of the day to yourself
unit 124 ?! Fuck yeah! I do more in my 7 hr tour of actual work at hq (no bj or ass kissing here) than those suckholes do in a month. Put their bitch asses in the streey.
*** Union priorities:
Money
More money
Discipline
A little more money
Some extra money on top of that
this is the same lodge that let the city make 50% management at the airport and mass transit. they gave away rights to management
they will do the same now, in exchange for money to shut people up
Lucky bastard. Sentence almost served.
Bend them over sideways and congrats!
Pitman schedule. Worked it-terrible(only for midnights officers).
12s in Chicago PD is not the same as 12s in a suburban department. Some of the slowest districts in Chicago are still much busier than most suburbs. Imagine living in Jeff park and driving to 7 just to work you 12s. LOL if they have hard time hiring... they'll definitely make it harder. On top of that, it'll be harder to retain people.
Another solution is to get rid of all these useless teams in the district and areas that are only there pushing numbers. A lot of these useless teams don't even work full shifts. Statistical policing is dumb.
Snelling is running this department like he’s blindfolded with his hand tied behind his back. Literally.
12 hour days?!? Conehead is cutting back on our overtime, since he has to purchase his own Gucci bags and couplings. Since, he could no longer get it from the retailer, he has to give himself another raise.
Not really. 60% pension and a good suburban police chief job or a non descriped political job
Never will happen they will just go home after the 6 hrs and be carried
The dept did this to themselves when they went to the 4 and 2. Fewer day off groups = more officers (or a higher proportion) in each day off group = more of the watch off on any given day. Add on the hiring and attrition problems, and its a crisis. They don't have to switch back to 6 and 2, but that other schedule (was it 5 and 3?) they piloted when they piloted the 4 and 2 would work better, put more officers on the street each day, and not be 12 hr days. But the genius factory now running the department doesn't even understand scheduling.
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