More Illegal CFD Searches
Yesterday morning, someone posted in our comments that CFD Internal Affairs was back at a firehouse, illegally searching cars:
- IAD is back at 3918 N Harlem making threats and demanding firefighters open their cars to be searched based on CCL issues. This is happening as this is being typed or shortly before.
- The IAD personnel on scene are identifying themselves as police officers
- They know a lot of fire department members, probably over 80%, voted for Trump. Especially if you are pro gun. Is this retaliation?
Also yesterday, their union released a statement:
- On February 27th, the Chicago Fire Department IAD and exempt rank personnel reported to Engine 86 to conduct a search of members’ personal vehicles. Currently, Local 2 is actively investigating the reasons why. The government or the Chicago Fire Department cannot conduct a search of members’ property unless probable cause or exigent circumstances exist.Based on the facts available to the Local, these searches lacked probable cause and exigent circumstances were not present. Members should be aware that the right to be free from unreasonable searches only applies if an expectation of privacy. Prior court cases have held that such an expectation of privacy does not exist in fire house lockers or fire houses in general. However, members do have a privacy interest in their personal vehicles.If the CFD makes a request to search a members vehicle parked on City property the Local is recommending the following: It is recommended that Members request a Union representative and inquire if any response or statement by them will result in discipline. Members should not voluntarily consent to a search of their vehicle.Members should ask if they are being ordered to allow the search of their vehicle If an order is given and/or a request for a Union representative is made, ensure that the order and request for a representative is documented in the company journal. Typically, members must comply with an order and contest the employers conduct afterwards.However, if an illegal order is given, compliance is not required. As of now, all the facts are not available to the Local to definitively state if the search conducted at E86 was illegal because we do not know all the facts which caused the CFD to conduct the search. Members should contact the Local to report all relevant information related to the search.The Local has been in contact with civil rights attorneys and criminal attorneys to take appropriate legal action to defend and represent our members and hold those engaging in potentially illegal activities accountable. The Local will follow the recommendation of these attorneys after all the pertinent information is obtained.Fraternally, Local 2 Executive Board
So it certainly looks like a number of firefighters just got a new car, a nice boat, or an expensive vacation paid for, all courtesy of CFD exempt staff and Chicago taxpayers.
Also, is anyone at CPD looking into the claims that personnel on scene identified themselves as Police Officers? There's a whole new set of charges for that.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
59 Comments:
I see the local Chicago media is following this closely. NOT.
Because they are fuckin' useless.
CFD has been Dei for years now. That's on.full display with these moves.
Get your cell phones out RECORD everything.
A video will bring more money in the end from the shit-hole city.
Could these searches be some sort of misguided response to the recent incident during which a member of CFD had a handgun stolen from his personal car while it was parked at the fire station?
So CFD wants the legal ccl carriers to not drive to work legally armed. Parking lot storage bad idea, yes, provide gun safes in the building or in individual quarters.
Call 911 and ask for the police to come to the scene.
The entire incident will then be recorded on body camera.
Make sure the coppers have the cameras on like the order states.
Then, sit back and wait for the the check.
FUCK Chicago.
What a joke probably the guy who got his eye dotted at that firehouse a couple years back that nobody wants around making anonymous calls looking to jam people up.
If CFD IAD is impersonating a police officer demand to see their star and ID if refuse to ID themselves file an complaint, if an exempt runs interference file an grievance. Fight fire with fire. I'm willing to bet fire commish is involved she has to be aware of what going on and guide this fallacy.
Is CCL in a parking lot a problem?
This story is a week old already. If anyone CFD reports to work with contraband in their vehicle, they are an idiot.
They didn’t find any uniforms they were left at home. They have to have an outfit to wear to the Jewel
Who were the exempted cocksuckers that conducted this civil rights violation?
Tell them you’re from Guatemala and everything will be just fine
Is this the city's response to contract negotiations? Sure smells like it! CFD union should respond with pictures or video of the shitty, antiquated equipment they have for a major city...
In Backdraft, Fire Investigator Robert DeNiro carried a gun.
Call 911. I respond. Caller signs complaint and I lock up the jagoff IAD CFD clown for impersonation of a police officer and trespass to vehicle. It’s that simple I dgaf about your rank title. I’ll contact the media immediately after. Firefighters are not police officers and have no powers to search detain anyone or anyone’s property.
Did they find a hooker in one of the cars? CFD famous for firehouse hijinks like that!
Probable cause to search a personal vehicle? Um no, you need a search warrant. If less than a search warrant is listed in a CFD general order then that order is illegal.
Yea, ok Lone Ranger!
Yeah, and a baldwin brother banged broad on a fire truck.....
Retired. Not from Illinois. We were "randomly drug tested" and in our case, had to open our wallets and empty contents onto a table. I complained. The "union" said this was mandated by the government. What bull crap. Glad I'm gone. "You can come back and visit us." Why?
These CFD IAD people are not firemen. They are civilian employees. They have no skin in the game other then being pimps! IAD eliminated firemen from their staff years ago.
And these exempt rank people want to be in the union under the BRASS BILL, but then on the flip side they want to screw with firemen.
I wish someone would have the balls to call CPD when this occurs and have these IAD peeps locked up for impersonation.
And if true who leaked the CCL info of city employees? This most definitely is a violation of LEADS and or whatever other program is used in law enforcement. I know back in the day, LEADS, could find out exactly the date time and person who ran people, plates, CQH, etc. I am sure this could be found out as well.
Fuck you , pay me!
He’s a dummycrat
Fire dept playing Police
Might have been Deputy Sheriff's.
It’s against the law
Can't be, everyone knows that he's anti-gun.
That is a good idea.
Say it right, "Jewels".
This DEI wokery beess reminds me of the LAFD before the big one.
Main lame stream media will trot out that video they used a few years back about firemen drinking at the station…they had that one on a repeat loop a few years back
Red Flu
A legally possessed firearm is not contraband.
What happens when you have DEI people in charge.
I see CFD has the same problem with the Demigod bosses
Identify as an illegal trans minority and they will flee from you.
The evil and corruption spreads to all sectors of city services. Brandumb is a one term mayor, hell bent on destroying all under his purview before he is voted out of office and returns to the Democrat hell hole of CTU.
Fire-Eaters don’t need no stinking Bullet Guns! We got a Deck Cannon that will strip the heat from fire & bring down a 2 foot bearing wall in 10 Seconds. And with hydrant every 1/4 mile, We can hook up200 feet of hose & pave the way of bad guys all the way home. Say hello to my Big Red Rig! Plus I have 2A friends that live across the alley. Go fish Brandie.
Oh man please somebody make this happen! They committed a felony by impersonating a PO.
I’ll donate the legal fund under one condition: any CFD employee suing goes after the individuals who violated their 4th Amendment rights punitively as well as after the city. Make those motherfuckers list their assets, write some checks and have their wages garnished.
There needs to be real consequences if bad behavior is expected to change.
Gonna remember this shit when called to a fire in certain areas of the city ! A big fuck you to all you socialist democratic fucking rats ! Pay back time mother fucker !
CITY OF CHICAGO
FIREARMS IN THE WORKPLACE POLICY
Effective Date: July 1, 2016
Can't post the whole thing. Look it up. But it specifically says you just can't bring it into a City building or vehicle or possesing (while on duty) where prohibited by law. Leaving in you vehicle is not prohibited.
FUCK deniro and alec !
Call 911 for the police to come to the scene of what exactly? There's no crime being committed, no public safety issue, no disturbance, nothing that would require a police response. Just record whatever you want on your own phone. Why do you need police body cameras involved? Stupid fucking idea.
Firearms are prohibited on or about the firehouse, or in possession of on duty fire department personnel by General Order, whether you have a CCL or not. Failure to abide may be subject to discipline up to and including termination.
They'd have to actually impersonate a police officer for you to do anything. And they're not going in vehicles without permission from the owners, so there's no trespassing. It's that simple. Are you actually the police?
You're wrong. Are any of you actually the police? You don't need a search warrant for a car if you have probable cause. You've never recovered evidence from a car without a search warrant? Besides, none of that is even relevant, because these are CONSENT searches. You can get a search warrant for a car, and sometimes that's the best option. It's incorrect to say you need a search warrant to search a car. Do you need an arrest warrant when you have probable cause too? CFD general orders can also be more restrictive than laws. That doesn't make them illegal. They are conditions of employment. CPD general orders restrict freedom of speech, restrict alcohol and drug use, restrict who you can associate with, etc. None of that is illegal. Unless the general orders are requiring someone to violate the law, they are not illegal.
Im not talking about a traffic stop or a crime i n progress. You park your car in a CFD lot and go to work they have no right to randomly search your personal vehicle.
a private car is not in or about the firehouse buddy
Im sure they have investigators that are leads certified and they arent civilian employees. they are sworn in just like police. Just not armed.
There are at least 2 members of Fire IAD that are sworn in as Special Police. They have police powers and carry a firearm. Don't shoot the messenger- just trying to provide some clarity.
Pretty sure they are Deputy Sheriff's.
It doesn't matter what you're talking about. Traffic stop, crime in progress, car parked by a firehouse, etc. all do not require a search warrant when you have probable cause. Why are you forgetting the probable cause part and now bringing up random searches? Let's try an example for you. Firefighter Steve parks his car at the fire station. He likes to steal equipment from the station and throw it in his car. Paramedic Bob sees the stolen equipment in Steve's car and snitches. Let's say it has city asset tags clearly visible and 25 people saw him steal it and put it in his car. Do you need a search warrant to recover the evidence from his car? Paramedic Bob also has sticky fingers. He was seen taking stereo equipment from vehicles at traffic crashes and putting them in his Subaru. The victims of his thefts are all on scene with receipts and serial numbers for the equipment that they see in Bob's car. Bob isn't very smart, so he confesses to stealing everything. Do you need a warrant to recover the stolen items from his car? Remember what you're trying to argue before changing your position and the parameters of the situation. No one said random searches of personal vehicles with no warrant and no probable cause were permitted.
For the record, It's spelled Gies....He has kids on CPD.
I don’t care if all the victims are priests and nuns who identify him. You still need a warrant. First thing a judge would ask before throwing out your evidence is “Officer was the car or evidence likely to be destroyed while in your possession?” If not you had the time to get the search warrant.
Anonymous
Pretty sure they are Deputy Sheriff's.
Please, name the deputy sheriff and what did he or she own. Oh wait. Maybe another CPS grad who doesn't know how to use an apostrophe. Want to say plural but write singular possessive.
You're definitely not the police, or you're not a very good one. All you need to do is rely on your experience. If you have none, you could just Google. You don't need a search warrant for a car WHEN YOU HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE. Period. Sorry.
Technically, they are Deputy Sheriff's Police, with an apostrophe. Now what?
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