Friday, March 24, 2006

Controversy Burning Out?

As reported here a few days ago, Alderman Tom Allen (38th), chair of the Transportation Committee has decided not to call the Hampton street sign for a vote this month and his procedural move looks to have hamstrung the entire effort at the moment. From the Sun Times:
  • Allen's legislative maneuver leaves Haithcock with only one option: Wait 60 days after the Feb. 27 committee approval date and then try to round up the 26 votes needed to "discharge" the committee over Allen's objections.

    That's a tall order. Proponents have acknowledged they don't have 26 votes. And they might even lose a few on the procedural vote.

Of course, Bobby Rush (D-scumbag black panther and racist) who is so free with the advice when telling the Superintendent to shut up and run his department, continues to jump on a local matter that has NOTHING to do with the US Congress. From the Tribune:
  • "I intend to fight this to the bitter end," he said. "We will get 26 votes, but I want to meet with [Allen] first."
So kudos to Tom Allen for at the very least, throwing a wrench into the works here. Too bad the officers of this Department have to look to a civilian for a little support and inspiration rather than their own supervisors who can't be found within a mile of controversy unless it involves them paying $250 bucks a month for their cars.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

You all smell that?!?!?! Smells like I'm first!!! Go Fighting 017!!!!!!WOOHOO!!!

3/24/2006 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fighting 017?~?~? Isnt that on oxymoron? Its a joke-- dont get all bent out of shape.

3/24/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police shooting in 005 last night on 1st watch. Off-duty copper got robbed. Shots rang out. Thank God the Officer was not injured.

005th District Officers did an excellent job of tracking down the offender by following his footprints for over 3 blocks in the snow. Weapon & proceeds recovered in his possesion.

So, naturally none of these Officers had a personal break, let alone a lunch break.

Yet, when Captain White came on duty, she came up to the Area. Instead of congratulating her fellow 005th District Officers on a job well done, she was bitching about them being on overtime.

Gee, it really makes you wanna work there.

I feel that the FOP should demand HAZARD pay from the City for any Officer having to work in the 005th District.

Or here's an idea Phil, give C.W. the command spot at the southwest closet of the northeasternmost building at O'Hare.

3/24/2006 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Id tell her or any boss to go fuck themselves. You work a case like that and get bitched at FUCK HER!

3/24/2006 01:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Have it Better Than Most (I guess) said...

TO: 3/24/2006 01:30:30 PM

Amen brother or sister...Thank God the copper is OK...

3/24/2006 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous PROUDCIVILIAN said...

Even if I was a politician, I would still tell them to kiss my A$$

Because I have SPINE

3/24/2006 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is amazing how Daley and his machine has neutered our brass. The cowards aren't even free to speak their minds for fear or retribution.
Oh yeah, fuck Bobby Rush!!

3/24/2006 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Acting DC? No she cant even act as a P.O. said...

Captain Cythnia White has been and continues to be a stupid dumb monkey cunt!

She looks like a hairy ass ape and has the brain capacity of a gerbil.

She ends up wearing a wire to bust cops after her dirty ass was caught!

She is a rat fink piece of shit.

3/24/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The current exempt members are sad. They craddle their department issued blackberries like shaking chickens waiting to be yelled at for something! They can't even take a shit without them. They give up thier family lives and are department slaves.

Screw them, they can have the gold badge in exchange for their balls. I rather have my balls.

90 percent of them would lick Phil's dirty ass crack to keep their gold badge and dept. car.

They only way they can be a man with 4 inches of manhood is to have a gold badge.

3/24/2006 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fighting 017 alright--FIGHTING TO GET OUT OF JOBS!

3/24/2006 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cythnia White... Think about it. She is an old fat nasty looking woman. She already was in one coma from diabetes. She eats like a pig and her diabetes is way out of control and over weight. She'll be enjoying a John Stroger stroke soon.

As for myself. I wake up everyday and thank the lord I am a white person living in a quiet area of the city where gun shots don't ring out and drive bys aren't happening.

If I was an old fat nasty looking black woman I would be pissed at the world also and taking it out on everyone. Do you blame her? She has to pretty sad and torn in turmoil.

3/24/2006 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is the new D/C of 005?

3/24/2006 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are going to push for a FULL Assault Weapon Ban in Illinois this year. Why do the crimes of the few justify disarming the many? Only 6% of the murders in Chicago last year were comitted by white folks. Guess who does all the killing?? How about disarming them???

3/24/2006 03:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask Cynthia Whte if she knows who George Sims's bagman was.

3/24/2006 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone from 35th street know what
date the second part of Sgt. exam is going to be???

3/24/2006 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Part II on 09 June 2006

3/24/2006 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a P.P.O. and my scheduled retirement date will be in 2037.

What does the pesion fund look like for me in 2037? Should I stay a few extra years till 2040?

Let me know please!

3/24/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know kid that if you killed 5 people today, you would be out of prison by 2040?

Sounds like you are fucked to have to be on thei NEW department till 2040!

Maybe just wrap your mouth around your 9mm semi-auto. It will be less painful.

3/24/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, this is 2nd City Cop Blog site
I have heard about this site at roll call. It was said that this site had great potential and a good idea at its offset. But like everything else that COPPERS do, there is always an element that comes around and ruin it for everybody else. This site has been depicted as a place for ranting, raving racists in "BLUE"
It might be best if 2nd City go into a sign up and register mode. That way cowardly racist would have to think twice before they bombard others with their stupidity
Its a shame that some of us will never grow up. Who ever started this BLOG DON'T deserve to have his/her time and effort drawn into the gutter by a bunch of cowardly posters who wouldn't dare express the same ideas or belief in public. But its okay if they allow this Blog Site to be smear with their vile rantings

3/24/2006 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah you bunch of cowards loser cops, get a life i'm amazed you asswipes can read and write

3/24/2006 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone from 35th street know what
date the second part of Sgt. exam is going to be???

3/24/2006 03:46:22 PM

And the answers!! Can't let the SA's kid get all the promotions!

3/24/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Our pension is seriously underfunded. The Fireman fund in even worse condition.

FOP in 03-04 forgave the city a big chunk of money owed to us by the city, which was suppose to go into the pension. Pensions are suppose to be first and foremost in paying, Ha, ha on us poor souls. Underfunded for yrs. now.
It will hit new hires, 1st. more due from you, less shared by city. Even a smaller reduction by the city will naturally alter the lng. term total. I have 20 and I am passing on the baton to you, I am old schooled, make a difference kid.

Whether your pension will be there for you is hard to say, we sure hope so, god forbid. Become active when you can in FOP, and listen very careful at what is being said at the mike, when officers get up to speak their turn on the floor. There is always a pattern. Feel free to speak your mind.

Membership needs to reunite not an easy task. Trust me each and everyone of us make up the FOP, they serve because of us not in spite of us. Regardless of who is sitting in office. They will be only as good as a united front expects them to be. Stay Safe

3/24/2006 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I am a P.P.O. and my scheduled retirement date will be in 2037.

What does the pesion fund look like for me in 2037? Should I stay a few extra years till 2040?

Let me know please!

3/24/2006 04:05:11 PM


You are joking, right?? Brother, there will not be a pension when you retire. The Boomers will eat it all up and want seconds! The city pensions are UNDER funded and they want to institute a pension "holiday". That is a cute way of saying they will STOP funding it all together.

Deferred Comp? Don't bother. You can't POSSIBLY save enough money AND pay for a good house in a safe neighborhood plus send your kids to private school.

You will stay on the job untill 63 or til you die, which ever comes first. City medical care coverage for retirees ends in 2013. You will have 7 years on the job then! You WILL work till you are 63. Medicare will not kick until 65 (that is ofcourse IF it still exists). So you will have to plan for 2 years w/o medical care. For a couple at 64 years old, it costs them right now $175,000 to cover their health. 30 years from now, you can add one zero to the end of that.

Oh, and btw a shitty little ranch on the NW costs $400,000!!!!

3/24/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question, does Hampton's son even live in Chicago? Is Hampie Jr. in Rush's district?

3/24/2006 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fighting 017....what a joke! and get this.....they have a tact team in 017....thats the biggest joke! ever see them!

3/24/2006 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I will be one of those Boomers, doubt they will give me seconds,I don't have a famous last name. I Will have to find myself a small hut keep a hand fan at my side and seek another country, while learning a new lanuage to survive.

He should still kick up a fuss, written, vocal hell the kid will need it with this job.

3/24/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fighting 017 is that a high school football team? As you can see I have not seen them. Whose idea was that anyway?

3/24/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's one of the dorks from unit 017a, or as the northside coppers like to say, "017 Tact!"

Oh boy.

3/24/2006 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that the people and police who complain and complain and complain and. . . .complain sound so much like those who have been recently displaced as a result of the restructuring of public housing. The city, the mayor, the department and the leaders of that department owe you nothing besides compensation.

If you are not satisfied with the status quo please resign, please. You act as if this is an entitlement. You act as if you are above the fact that you get compensation. You get very decent compensation. Please just do your job. Study to get promoted, excel at your job and contribute. Wasting your energy on who gets what position or what promotion is just that - a waste of energy. Where in the world do you think it's different? In the corporate world? In the military? The state police? The federal government? It's no different anywhere.

The difference is that because you have the virtue of state allowed authority you think you have actual authority. You have as much authority as you can achieve with in the organization that is the Chicago Police Department. It is the same anywhere and everywhere.

If you are dissatisfied please try to make a living at something you can find happiness in. The citizen of Chicago, the visitors to Chicago, your families and you deserve better. They deserve your commitment to quality. They deserve your commitment to doing your job and doing it well.

Enough said.

3/24/2006 05:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next dicks class---how many and when?

3/24/2006 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


3/24/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I reside in a small apartment building and have good reason to believe my neighbor is selling drugs.

If I send an email via the CPD site, will they forward it to the drug/narcotic department, or do I need to phone this in?

Thank you.

3/24/2006 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to remind everyone that there is still a war on.

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 2319
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03) 2182
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 1852
Since Handover (6/29/04): 1453
Since Election (1/31/05): 883

American Wounded Official Estimated
Total Wounded: 17004

3/24/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Blogger Crimefile said...

I remember Bobby Rush running into the Courts building long ago when his pal, spree killer Gene Lewis waiting for his second death sentence had shot two people during his escape attempt.

The Ice Man as Lewis was called had 18 holes in his body after Det Crossett Hamilton and Ptlm Blackie McDonald shot it out with that killer.

Poor Bobby Rush was so upset! I somehow believe Rush was involved in Lewis' crimes.

3/24/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fightin 017

Yeap fightin ta get the fuck outta here. You guys goy it right. We got a blondbarbie doll for a Captain on days whose IQ is the same as her fake TITS = 2, and the Commander is a fake JOSE, yeah thats you yeah short little fuck you can fool city hall but yeah ain't sellin no corn ta me. Also the Captain on midnights is a great guy, yeap great at duckin police work for the last decade yeah fuckin shakie jake. Oh yeah how about the Captain on 3rd watch we din't forget about you but city hall wants to. So you all are right 017 is the pre-mo spot ta be if your a suck-ass coward, can't wait ta get the fuck outta this rat hole. And don't reply "get a civilian job" that means you, yeah fuckin company pricks.

3/24/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Anonymous northside said...

5:55 pm CrimeFile:

If he'd only take that fuckin' toothpick out of his mouth, Crossett "Lee" Hamilton would have been one hell of a homicide dick (Area 4). He was an ace. When he got through with Gene Lewis at the Courthouse at 26th St., the 010 wagonmen claimed that Lewis' corpse "jingled"

Lee's got a horse farm in Indiana now, living the good life. I'll drop him an eMail tonight about your mention, Paul.

If you thought that Gene Lewis was "the ICEMAN", he met his match and then some in Lee. One baaaadddaaaass copper. He never wore all his medals. (Lambert Tree, Police Medal, Award of Valor, etc.) Fond memories of a good guy.

If only he'd take that perpetual toothpick out of his mouth.
(Just bustin' balls, Lee. Don't hurt me.)

3/24/2006 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lights out nobody home:

No, it is not the same everywhere. Do you actually think all cops have never worked the private sector? We have numerous professionals and they hold rank of Police Officer, not by their own choice. Politic's have brought this dept. down to below sewer level. We do not consider ourselves Rats if you get the drift.

You apparently see us as one sided on this blog, so be it. This is where many of us drop in to make our greets, or throw a couple of verbal punches. Are you even from Chicago, were you born and raised in this so called city? I do not buy your, Don't Worry be Happy Retoric for one minute.

You can enjoy being the Robot for us. Guess what? We hold the oil can.

3/24/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


You need the police for that job, currently were all on our unpaid lunch breaks.

3/24/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are all of the supervisors bailing out of 009? Can you say Clueless Gene?

3/24/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Study to get promoted


Your ignorance is only out shined by your stupidity.

3/24/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I live in Mayfair in 017. And work citywide. Honestly, I see ALOT of 17 beat cars driving around. They are always out and about. I like it.

Thanks guys!

3/24/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


3/24/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my partner smells help !

3/24/2006 06:36:00 PM  
Blogger sharky said...

Anyone know anything about Capt Lille Crump Hales from 002? She is the bid Captain coming to midnights in 022. First hand comments so far that I have been getting are pretty negative

3/24/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crump's management style is to motivate through spar forms as she once said over the radio during The Bud Billyclub Parade

3/24/2006 06:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. Crump-Hale is the fuckbuddy of Sgt. Casey on 2240. He pulled strings to get her there. They are booping each other as much as they can.

3/24/2006 06:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The same Sims, who was CO in 3 when CW baggin skit played out.

3/24/2006 07:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to agree with5:03:22. I've been saying this for the lastyear: The next contract negotiations the city will want PO'Sto assume more of the financial burden for health insurance.also, I know the pension isregulated by the state legislature, but if you don't think Daley runs that,you are fooling yourself.My bet:PO'S will have to contribute more pension in near future,so the City will do less. comments?

3/24/2006 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any information yet on the arrest of a F.O.P. board member by the suburban police? Was it domestic related or was the female not his wife?

3/24/2006 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lilly Crump Hales once led the 22 Tac team on a car chase after she blew several red lights and stop signs...she got from 111 Longwood to 99th and Halsted before she was forced to stop...this was only after stopping briefly and telling the tac guys that she was de POlice and she was late for roll call...she is a MUTT

3/24/2006 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok so like where is the transfer order?

3/24/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it looks like a side squeeze and not his wife. they got into a fight in a suburban hotel room. wonder if the room was paid with a FOP issued expense account credit card? sounds like he promised her to leave the old lady and hasn't and it blew up from there. she did have a facial bruise and the suburban department took photographic evidence of her injuries.

3/24/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, comments.
first of all, kid, if you think the cit's are going to let you have a full and robust pension after being fucked out of theirs at the steel mills, airlines, auto industry, just aren't thinkin. the trend is very clear. rosty started this with the soc. sec. windfall elimination provision. look it up.
a pension contribution holiday is nothing to be celibrated by those hopeing to recieve a pension. blogo probably won't be around when the full impact of his 2 year pension holidy comes home to roost...and he knows it.
max out and fully diversify your diff comp. plan to spend no more than 30% of your gross on housing....i know this means a house or condo in inglewood. you will have to send your kids to public schools and plan to work to till you are forced out!

3/24/2006 07:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Transfer order coming through now, listing of Sgt's. and P.O.'s.

3/24/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That is correct. Ck. out this website, let me know if you have a problem reaching it. Scroll down Or look for 2006 chg. budget. This is who assists our city for their budget planning, hmmm.

3/24/2006 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a true story.

A prisoner at the county was on a writ to A/5 for an investigation. The investigation concluded and the prisoner, in full DOC uniform, was placed in the 25th lockup on new misd charges. The Desk Sgt. I-bonded the prisoner on his new charge and let him walk out the door in his DOC uniform and jacket. How in the world could this happen???

3/24/2006 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog USED to be interesting, it has now deteriorated to locker room level gossip. If I were J.Q. Citizen reading these posts, I would agree with the image the press portrays of the police as racist, paranoid, uneducated and just plain ignorant. Too bad, this site could be a great forum for things that affect the police and REALLY matter.

3/24/2006 09:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crimefile, you absolutely rock!!

Great Rush posting...

3/24/2006 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know when new Lt's are going to be made?

3/24/2006 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My bet:PO'S will have to contribute more pension in near future,so the City will do less. comments?

3/24/2006 07:19:11 PM


the membership can't contribute enough to keep the pension aflot for the next 30-40 years. Boomers are on the quest for eternal life. They feel that they should be immortal and life forever. The rest of us are only here to feed them (and wipe their bottoms).

Someone look at their pay stub. Post how much per pay period you contribute to the pension. If the City (read: taxpayers) decides not to kick in anymore, that number on your stub is ALL that you will have going into the pension.

Do the math. Determine how many current Pension Collectors there are and how much they draw, that will equal "X". Now take "X" and divide that by the number of Pension Contributors. That will be the dollar amount YOU will have to give each pay period to make sure those guys enjoy their hard earned pension. Don't forget they want free health, dental and vision care....

it would blow your mind. Again kiss the house, and Catholic edu away.

3/24/2006 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are not alone.

San Diego Pension Deficit

This article has alot of links. Good source. Anyone that is interested should do a search for San Diego and deficits. They have been under funding their pension since 1996. Law suits are flying. This can happen here.

San Diego's Pension Crisis

3/24/2006 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do the math. Determine how many current Pension Collectors there are and how much they draw, that will equal "X". Now take "X" and divide that by the number of Pension Contributors. That will be the dollar amount YOU will have to give each pay period to make sure those guys enjoy their hard earned pension. Don't forget they want free health, dental and vision care....

So, are you suggesting that we start killing off the retired guys?!?!?!?!?

Let's send SEISER after them. He can start with that crab ass, knows everything Northside!

3/24/2006 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No what he is saying is that the fund will not live if you contribute for 25 years and collect for 40.

3/24/2006 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous said...

You know, Crimefile's comment about Rush inspired me.

So much so, that I decided to do some research myself. In fact, once we're done, we plan on sending this little care package to Ald. Hancock, since she wants to honor a member of this party.

Here's just some of the goodies I found:

Let us now examine the New Haven Black Panther trials. Ericka Huggins was the leader of the Black Panther Party in New Haven and Bobby Seale was the national chairman. In May 1969, George Sams, the Panther field marshall, was sent to New Haven to investigate whether Alex Rackley, a fellow Panther, was a police informant. Rackley was subjected to interrogation and torture by the Panthers, according to testimony in subsequent trial. He confessed to being a police informant, and was later found dead.

In May 1969, George Sams, the Panther field marshall, George Sams reportedly told Seale that Rackley was a police informant, although Seale later denied knowledge of this fact. Meanwhile, James Ahern, then New Haven Chief of Police, had the Panther headquarters under surveillance. George Sams ordered that Rackley be killed. Lonnie McLucas allegedly fired the first shot, and Warren Kimboro fired the second shot that killed Alex Rackley. George Sams, disguised as a minister, fled to Canada, where he was later apprehended. Warren Kimboro and eight other members were arrested and charged with murder. However, all the Panthers, except Ericka Huggins and Bobby Seale, were set free. Arnold Markle, State’s Attorney for the County of New Haven, accused Bobby Seale of kidnapping, conspiracy to commit kidnapping, murder in the first degree, and conspiracy to commit murder. Markle also accused Ericka Huggins of kidnapping, conspiracy to commit kidnapping, murder in the first degree, conspiracy to commit murder, and binding with intent to commit crime. Yale Law School graduate Charles R. Garry was the defense lawyer for Bobby Seale and Catherine Roraback was the defense lawyer for Ericka Huggins.


Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:07:41 -0700
From: David Horowitz <">
Subject: Re: [sixties-l] Re: sixties-l-The Black Panthers

Jeffrey Blankfort was one of the propagandists for the Panther gang. As a photographer he took many of the pictures that created the heroic images of a bunch
of street thugs. Apparently he has no regrets for the damage he did. His comments here are typical fantasies. The Panthers never had support in the black community,
which was well aware of the Panthers' criminal activities. The Panthers were strictly the heroes of the white readers of magazines like Ramparts which ran
Blankfort's heroic images. The Panthers' criminality, as Newton and Bobby Seale
write in their autobiographies, was there from the outset. They recruited gangsters
quite consciously. The Party was launched nationally when Newton murdered a 26 policeman. As I pointed out in a previous post, 348 Panthers were arrested in 1969
for strictly criminal activities, while Newton was in jail (and the Party according
to Blankfort was free of his bad influence). The charges against them ranged from
wife-beating to armed robbery and murder. The personal smears directed at Hugh
Pearson and myself (Rockefeller life style -- yeah -- and "government-serving
propaganda pieces") are typical and traditional Stalinist tactics: everybody who
disagrees with the party line is a sell-out or a government agent. Discrediting
witnesses is how leftists were able to kill so many people in the 20th Century and
keep the support of "progressives" like Blankfort.


After the siege, New Orleans television station WWL turned over a handwritten note to the police that they'd received sometime after January 2, but had not opened until January 6, the day before the attack at the Howard Johnson's. The police crime lab later proved that the note — dotted with misspellings and punctuation errors — had been written by Essex. The note said:

Africa greets you. On Dec. 31, 1972, aprx. 11 p.m., the downtown New Orleans Police Department will be attacked. Reason — many, but the death of two innocent brothers will be avenged. And many others.
P.S. Tell pig Giarrusso the felony action squad ain't shit.



On 3rd December, 1969, Hilliard was arrested and charged with threatening the life of President Richard Nixon. He was accused of saying at a meeting "we will kill Nixon". Later that month Hilliard was found guilty of carrying a gun and was sentenced to a 6 months in prison.
Hilliard was also charged with shooting at the police during the incident when Bobby Hutton was killed. In July, 1971, Hilliard was found guilty of this offence and received a one to ten year prison term.


In this interview, conducted in the spring of 1997, Eldridge talked with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. About the shoot out with Oakland police which led to his exile, and looks back at the legacy of the Panthers and the civil rights movement.

On the Oakland Shoot Out
When these riots started all over the country in the aftermath of the assassination of Martin Luther King -- I think he got killed on the fourth of April. This shootout that we had took place on the sixth and the seventh of April. So we saw it coming while the police were acting so we decided to get down first. So we started the fight. There were fourteen of us.
We went down into the area of Oakland where the violence was the worst a few blocks away from where Huey Newton had killed that cop so we dealt with them when they came upon us. We were well armed, and we had a shootout that lasted an hour and a half. I will tell anybody that that was the first experience of freedom that I had. I was free for an hour and a half because during that time the repressive forces couldn't put their hand on me because we were shooting it out with them for an hour and a half. Three police officers got wounded. None of them got killed; I got wounded. Another Panther got wounded.


In May 1969, Alex Rackley, a twenty-four year old member of the New York chapter of the Black Panther party, was tortured and murdered because party members suspected him of being a police informant. A number of party members had taken part, and three party officers eventually admitted guilt. [11] Party supporters alleged that George Sams, the man who identified Rackley as an informer and subsequently ordered his execution, was an agent provocateur in the employment of the FBI.

It should be noted that James Adams, Deputy Associate Director of the FBI's Intelligence Division, claimed that COINTELPRO operations did not intend to foster violence nor to harm individual members of the organizations targeted. However the final report of Senate "Church Committee" which investigated the actions of COINTELPRO in 1975 and 1976 did not agree with Adams, and purported to demonstrate that the FBI "itself engaged in lawless tactics and responded to deep-seated social problems by fomenting violence and unrest." [8] fuck u On January 17, 1969, Los Angeles Panther Captain Bunchy Carter and Deputy Minister John Huggins were killed in Campbell Hall on the UCLA campus, in a gun battle with members of United Slaves, a rival black nationalist group, stemming from a dispute over who would control UCLA's black studies program. Another shootout between the two groups on March 17 led to further injuries. It was alleged that the FBI had made contacts with US in an alliance against the Panthers. [9]

The Black Panthers attracted a wide variety of left-wing revolutionaries and political activists. Among others, the party was supported by former Ramparts Magazine editor, David Horowitz, before he renounced socialism and gradually drifted to the political right. Decades later, upon the death of Huey Newton (who died in a shoot-out with rival gangsters), he would remark, "He (Newton) killed a lot of people." According to Horowitz, the Black Panthers once murdered a young, white female activist named Betty van Patten, whom he had introduced to the Party and who was representing it. After raping her, Horowitz claims, the members beat the woman to death with baseball bats.[12]

Between 1966-1972 when the party was most active, several departments hired significantly more African American police officers. Some of these black officers played prominent roles in shutting down the Panther's activities. In Chicago in 1969 for example, Panthers Mark Clark and Fred Hampton were both killed in a police raid by Sergeant James Davis, an African American police officer in the Chicago Police Department. In cities such as New York City, black police were used to infiltrate Panther meetings. By 1972, almost every major police department was fully integrated.

3/24/2006 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pension Postings:
I am new to this blog, at least the past week or so. I will again give you a website. will show you want the city has known all along about your pension fund. Straight and to the point. How many of you have heard over the years, your fund is healthy? This time no one can deny the fact. Check it out, find out what I and other's already knew. I forsee a Rocky road ahead.
Signed highjacker

3/24/2006 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the kid who wants to retire in 2037-2040, it's not to late kid, your young enough to get more schooling and get a real job or start your own business ( you can sell police supplies or uniforms to the police and fire and make millions).
If you plan to stay, you better put everything in deferred comp., work as many extra jobs as you can, eat soup everyday, drive an old car, don't get married, live with your parents as long as you can, and maybe, just maybe, there will be a piece of the pie left for you. Good Luck Kid!

3/24/2006 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pension Issue
Once on website of click on publications, I think it is the second one.

3/24/2006 10:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it looks like the housing insanity is over. 10 % drop in home sales and a spiking inventory are the writing on the wall.
if you didn't sell your n/w side 970 sq ft ranch for 450,000.00 you might have missed the boat.

3/24/2006 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said, "The citizen of Chicago....deserve better. They deserve your commitment to quality. They deserve your commitment to doing your job and doing it well. Enough said.
3/24/2006 05:36:22 PM"

To Anonymous: The citizens of Chicago do not deserve better. They just voted in a vegetable for the Cook County Board President. They deserve what they get!

3/24/2006 11:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my God. Capt. Lillie Crump-Hales...where to begin? She's a merit EVERYTHING and is as dumb as they come. HATES the white man, so look out. She disciplines for the most minor infractions, yet thinks nothing of following only the rules that are convenient for her. Also, if Sgt. Prentiss Jackson is going to be her sergeant on the midnight, LOOK OUT.

Prentiss is a wanna-be-white-man piece of work. These two bosses together are deadly to the working copper. Just hope that the real s**t doesn't hit the fan because niether of them will have a clue what to do.

Also be aware that the fine Captain has her residence in 022, about 3 minutes from the station. She will never be late for work, and you better not be either. Or it WILL cost you.

3/24/2006 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's see a Black Female Captain that hate Whites.........with a Black Sgt. who thinks he's White
now how the F@%K is that going to work??????

3/25/2006 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Inability to strike turns to MUTINY. Where's the poet?

3/25/2006 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


3/25/2006 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


One thing that was mentioned was the possibility of a TWO TIER pension system. In other words, if you are already on the job, you get the 20on/50age=-50% and the 29+1 day=75% deal. If you are new, maybe it will be 25 years on the job equals 50%.

Everyone should look at what the executives in industry are doing to their people. I am sure Ritchie is thinking about dumping our pension on the federal government insurance plan where we would get 40%. This way he can spend more on flowerpots and iron fences delivered by hired trucks. His opinion of city employees has always been, “If he does not like what we are offering he can quit.’

It is bad enough that the Social Security Benefits that we earned have been fucked by former federal inmate Dan Rostenkowski now we got to worry about our pension. (Can anyone post a mugshot of him, I'd like to use it.)

One reason he does not care is that he does not belong to any city pension fund. His pension if the Illinois State Legislator's Pension. Which follows him form job to job and he can collect ??? % when he retires, even if he is in the federal pen like Danny R. did. It's nice to write your own rules and send the taxpayers the bills. I'd like to know what medical plans the politicians have, their retirement perks and what their Golden Parachutes give them.

Time to smarten up, we were better off with Harold Washington, and we will be better off with a minority mayor who realizes that he/she better keep us happy or they are out. If we can dump Ritchie, Blogo, Mel, Burke then they will FEAR US, and we, and our families will be much better off.

3/25/2006 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

20/50=50% If your 50 or over, 20 and day would =52 1/2%.

Also mentioned was if you are under 50 you go draw down lump sum.

Did you keep tips on how to get a better return, by wait dates, etc.?

I will be heading that way myself. Hut and hand fan in the middle of no where.

3/25/2006 02:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to key entry error's, watchin tv, sorry.

3/25/2006 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
it looks like the housing insanity is over. 10 % drop in home sales and a spiking inventory are the writing on the wall.
if you didn't sell your n/w side 970 sq ft ranch for 450,000.00 you might have missed the boat.

3/24/2006 11:09:28 PM


Thank christ! But it won't be an abrupt correction. I heard sales were up for March.

3/25/2006 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At long last, a new home sale slump

3/25/2006 06:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Credit card problems

3/25/2006 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time to smarten up, we were better off with Harold Washington, and we will be better off with a minority mayor who realizes that he/she better keep us happy or they are out. If we can dump Ritchie, Blogo, Mel, Burke then they will FEAR US, and we, and our families will be much better off.


3/25/2006 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I bought my first house, I thought that there was no way the price of real estate could go up. Well guess what? I WAS WRONG! Since I bought that house, I've bought several others and in each instance the value of the home has increased dramatically, almost becoming absurdedly so. My current home went up in value about $100,000.00 in less than a year and is now worth more than I ever thought it would be. No sir, the prices will continue to rise here in Chicago no matter what happens in the rest of the country. People want to live in a nice house in a nice area away from the beast. And that means the N/W side. They will go to extrordinary lengths to get that house, three jobs, peanut butter/jelly for lunch etc., etc. Yes siree bob, I will probably get a cool million for my 200 thousand dollar home when I decide to retire and sell it. And they will be saying then as they are saying now, that the price of real estate cannot POSSIBLY go any higher. But it will as it always has.

3/25/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YES, 0405 you're right about the skyrocketing price of houses [especially N/W] BUT everything is relative, my brother. When you sell that house for a coool million, that Peanut Butter and Jelly 'sammich' will cost you around $350.00 !! We're stuck here in the City... take care of your self and your house---and life goes on. Stay Safe Out There and Continue to Back One Another Up!

3/25/2006 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as the so called higher up game players make money, the game goes on with housing prices. It's all relative.

3/25/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

condos are way overbuilt and undersold here in chicago....look at all the cranes in the skyline.
unless your condo is right on the lakefront you will take a hit.
if you purchased one of those condo conversions in an iffy hood with no parking for way too much money with a no down payment, intrest only are probably stuck with it for 10 yrs or so.......enjoy.

3/25/2006 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That is true and condo owners, that are renting them out are also going to warrant rent increases in certain pockets. A whole different topic.

3/25/2006 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me why u sometimes have to type the word verification different ways before submission on blog?

3/25/2006 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


3/25/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cause "L" looks like "i" or "N" is "V". Keeps the intoxiccated members amused though

3/25/2006 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garfield Ridge? What person in their right mind would want to live in Garfield Ridge? In a few years it will be referred to as Englewood West if it isn't already. No siree bob, the thinking man wants to live N/W, as far away from the beast as possible. The only good thing about the entire southside is the White Sox. Other than that, there is nothing of value on the southside. Sorry fellas.

3/25/2006 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

017-the whole distruct is illegal wetbacks..nothing like a nice illegal basement apt with 30 Joses there. alot of drunken Mexican nonsense-fighting over the last Modelo-then beat your mamacita cuz she didnt make tacos. Granted i would rather deal with a Jose than a mule anyday .NO ONE there speaks got stupid Mexicans, blind Koreans, dumb Pollacks, towel-headed terrorists. DOES ANYONE HERE SPEAK ENGLISH?? NO!no! The sargs. there dont do shit..the soul patrol can be on a parker for 2 hours and nothing from the sarg. and that commander?? You better have your name tag on your outer garment!! bosses sucks, citizens suck. morale sucks

3/26/2006 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alas sir,

Say all the derisive cheesehead jokes you want about Wisconsin but it is the most homogenious white population to be found. Grouse for shooting, trout, walleye, salmon in the creel, and they tried and sentenced the gook who murdered the six hunters less than thirteen-months after the incident in Exeland.

Yeah, folks up there might not know about life on Bt. #1111, but they're relatively normal, and conservative. And they speak English with a slight Norwegian twang-kinda quaint though. Thats why smart coppers have been buying up in the Northland for over fifty-years. Screw Chicago. Take the pension money and run! And don't forget-Save yourself-Vote McCain!!!

3/26/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your post except the part about McCain. Why would anybody vote for him? He's nothing more than a Democrap in disguise.

3/26/2006 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...






3/26/2006 05:08:00 PM  

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