$6.74 Million Judgment
And the hits just keep on coming. From the Sun Times:
- After a monthlong trial that ended Feb. 17, a jury concluded that six Chicago Police officers acted with malice and found no probable cause for the charges of kidnapping and murder against the three men.
Big oops. The article doesn't say if the coppers are going to be on the hook for any of this - we'd imagine the City would refuse to indemnify the officers if they were "act[ing] with malice." Any word?
posted by SCC at 7:44 AM
77 Comments:
numero uno!
$100,000.00 REWARD!
For particulars, see my post under the thread "Undercover Officer Speaks" on 4/18 at 8:06:51 AM
018 Disrtrict does not have Detectives list...If its out there post it. Other wise its all BS.
SO? WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO COMMENT ON IF THERE IS NOT THAT MUCH INFORMATION COMING MY WAY ON THIS MATTER,SCC? COME ON NOW SCC, LET US NOT GET LIKE THE REST OF THE TRAVELLING TROLLS ON THIS SITE THAT CONSTITUTE ASSHOLE AS A NEW WAY OF SAYING BUMHOLE.(Psst...SCC...lets pick better topics....something a little better....thanks!)
018 District worse than 023. What a bunch of fruitcakes!
I think that my wife and I have noooo problems compared to what's going on in the department. I'm not doing anyone but her. However....she feels that I am not the understanding, gentle, caring, loving, metrosexual that I should be. Especially with all of the role models I have within the department who exhibit such on a regular basis.
So she figures we need someone to tell us how to have a better marriage and she drags my ass to the department counselor - the EAP counselor (407 s Dearborn). We sit down in this guy's office and it is clear to me in about 5 seconds (nothing gets by me) that this guy is an alternative lifestyle person (F.H.) and he proceeds to tell me how I could be a better husband. How the hell does he know, I wonder. Maybe he uses his partner as a role model.
How the department can have this person doing MARRIAGE counseling is beyond me.
So, if the wife drags YOU in for counseling you might check out which team your counselor is playing for.
Northside reminds me of Peter Griffin's father on the show Family Guy: ends every sentence saying something like "and that's the way it is! You wanna make something out of it?!?" Always looking for a fight. ha ha ha
To 8:55 a.m. on 4/18/06 You F*CKEN remind me of a little F*CKEN kid near F*CKEN CHRISTMAS looking through the F*CKEN gifts before CHRISTMAS MORNING. WHAT THE F*CK. That F*CKEN DIC LIST OUT??? IS IT OUT YET??? WHEN IS IT OUT? IT IS NOT OUT YET? WELL,THEN WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OUT? WHEN IS IT OUT? WHEN? Do you honestly think that being a detective is going to make you any F*CKEN better then anyone else or something? YOU got a job now PECKERHEAD, be HAPPY with that. THEY'LL PUT OUT YOUR F*CKEN DETECTIVE LIST WHEN THEY ARE GOOD AND READY. CALL YOUR F*CKEN FABULOUS FOP FOR THAT INFORMATION instead of ASKING for that information on here where you are NOT EVEN ON TOPIC, YOU F*CKEN PUTZ. YOU DESERVE THE F*CKEN "EXPLORITORY " KICK IN THE ASS WHERE MY F*CKEN BOOT GOES SO FAR UP YOUR ASS IT CAN"T SEE DAYLIGHT. JUST BY YOUR ASKING ABOUT THIS DETECTIVE LIST LIKE IF IT WAS THE POT OF GOLD AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW IMPLIES TO ME YOU ARE A SPOILED MOTHER F*CKER LAME BRAIN PECKERHEAD THAT THINKS YOU ARE BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE. WHAT DID YOU DO, COME ON THIS JOB THINKING ALL YOU WANT TO BE IS A DETECTIVE? F*CKEN PUTZ. IF YOU DID, WHICH IS PROBABLY SO, THEN YOU ARE NOT THE REAL POLICE AND HAVE NO F*CKEN BUSINESS WANTING TO BE A DETECTIVE IN THE FIRST F*CKEN PLACE. GOD, I HATE WAKING UP TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU WANTING TO GET SOMETHING LIKE A F*CKEN "DIC" LIST LIKE ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT F*CKEN THING IN THE WORLD. GO ON GO OUT AND DO SOME REAL F*CKEN WORK, SOME REAL F*CKEN POLICE WORK AND MAYBE, JUST MAYBE YOUR HARD WORK ETHIC WILL MAKE YOU APPRECIATE THIS JOB MORE YOU F*CKEN TAKE FOR GRANTED PIECE OF SHIT SILVER SPOON PUTZ.
Can I have your autograph MIKE DIKA, I mean the guy that posted at 9:28 a.m.? I actually could not have said it better myself...some people just don't get it and other people do. (and some people do get it when they are NOT supposed to get it but I refuse TO SUCK DICK)
oops, i meant mike DITKA....sorry, MIDNIGHTS WILL DO THAT TO YOU.
so when's the detectives list out?
"Ohhhhhhhh Will-burrrrrrrrrr...."
A New Crime Fighter, for $10 in Hay and Oats
By ANDREW JACOBS
In this high-tech, gadget-dependent, "CSI"-obsessed age of police work, one of the New York Police Department's most prized and pampered weapons in the war on lawlessness is a temperamental pack of hay-chomping lads named Zeus, Philly and Angus.
Now, after decades of consignment to Central Park patrols, ceremonial trots down Fifth Avenue and the occasional cameo at a raucous demonstration, these horses — and 85 of their brethren — have begun patrolling high-crime neighborhoods, making late-night shows of force through Times Square and taking the lead during search-and-rescue missions along thicket-filled riverbanks and wooded urban parkland.
And there soon will be more of them: Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly is increasing the budget for the mounted troop, 75 horses and officers over the next three years, to eventually bring the total to 160, giving mounted patrols a larger role in battling crime.
"There's a reason we call them the 10-foot cop," Mr. Kelly said. "You can see them from blocks away, they're great at crowd control and they're probably the most photographed piece of equipment we have. I'm a huge fan."
So are police departments around the country. After decades of being viewed as a quaint 19th-century throwback, horseback policing is undergoing a resurgence in cities like Honolulu, Las Vegas and Oklahoma City. Law enforcement officials have come to appreciate the tactical and economic advantages of a mobile crime-fighting force whose members cost one-fifth the price of a Crown Victoria cruiser.
One mounted officer, police strategists like to say, carries the punch of 10 beat officers, especially when it comes to making a statement at large public gatherings or on busy downtown streets.
Scott McClelland, whose family in Canada trains and sells horses to law enforcement agencies across North America, said he gets weekly calls from small town sheriffs and big city police chiefs interested in starting mounted units.
"They can do more than a cop on foot, or a guy in a car," said Mr. McClelland, speaking from his ranch on the plains of Saskatchewan. "They can gallop through traffic, go the wrong way up one-way streets, and they're great for community relations. I mean, you can't exactly pet a cop car. Or a police dog, for that matter."
In New York, once paired, officers and their horses often spend the rest of their careers together. For example, Sgt. William McKay and Angus have been partners for nine years. Recently, they helped round up a group of men involved in a shooting. All it took was the approaching clippity-clop of Angus and few stern shouts from Sergeant McKay.
"When a cop on horseback issues a command, people tend to listen," he said. "I mean, I'm sitting on a thousand pounds of animal. It's also human nature to respect and fear a horse."
Sergeant McKay's Coney Island-based unit recently began patrolling some of the more troubled precincts of central Brooklyn, including East New York and Brownsville, where they often draw a crowd that is both appreciative and awed. In communities with a longstanding mistrust of the police, he said, there is nothing like a large animal to break the ice.
At the dawn of the automobile age, the city had 700 mounted officers. In 1970's, in the fiscal crisis, that number dropped to 40. These days, the department spends $4,000 to buy each horse, all of them castrated thoroughbreds or quarter horses that are groomed for police work.
Daily maintenance? About $10 a day for hay, grain and bedding material. "Sure beats the price of gas," said Lt. David Gaynor, who oversees the stables in the Bronx where horses are tested and trained. "And they don't give off carbon monoxide."
For every horse that makes it to the streets of New York, at least five others are returned to the seller, Lieutenant Gaynor said. Inherently skittish and prone to flee at the first hint of trouble, many horses will rear up at a wind-blown plastic bag or back away from a groaning sanitation truck. Horses prone to bucking, bolting or nibbling on fingers are rejected.
Paint horses, those of mottled coloring, need not apply. (The department values dark-hued uniformity, although there is one snow-white horse on the force.) Ultimately, trainers look for a combination of intelligence, fearlessness and the child-friendly demeanor of a show pony.
Prospects that make it to the training center in Pelham Bay Park are put through a nerve-racking gantlet of sensory challenges that include smoke bombs, clanging metal pots, hissing flares and the ultimate test, blanks fired a few paces from a horse's head. After three to six months of training, graduates make a 12-mile victory march to Manhattan.
On a recent afternoon, about a dozen horses, some newly arrived, some tried-and-true veterans, were put through "nuisance training," an ad-hoc obstacle course. Because they are highly socialized pack animals, the old-timers will often lend confidence to the rookies, which is particularly helpful when horses and their riders are forced to gallop across a blue plastic tarp, dash along an allée of burning hay, then made to march against a phalanx of hostile men waving trash bags and firing off air horns.
The idea, trainers explained, is to simulate the more harrowing aspects of city life: a gun battle, the possible mayhem of a United Nations protest or, say, the ugly aftermath of a Yankees-Red Sox game that spills out into the parking lot. (Attention would-be troublemakers: police horses cannot be thwarted by firecrackers, carrots or golf balls rolled beneath their feet.)
Having endured fire, smoke and shouting men, the horses and their riders are rewarded with a rugby-like tournament involving a giant inflatable ball pushed around by snout and hoof. The exercise, Lieutenant Gaynor explained, is to get the horses accustomed to pushing through throngs of people.
Although it is hard to find critics of mounted police — People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals supports law enforcement's humane use of horses — some experts say their value is limited. A mounted officer, they contend, might be reluctant to leave his horse behind to chase a fleeing suspect. Ice can be a formidable foe.
Others suggested that horses are a police department indulgence. Then there are waste-related issues, although horse manure, boosters pointed out, quickly dries up and blows away.
"Some cops disparage them as all show," said Peter C. Moskos, a former police officer who is now professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "Some guys say they're no better than a set of bagpipes."
Getting a spot with one of the city's mounted troop is highly competitive, and once they get in, most officers stay until retirement, even if it means giving up more lucrative transfers. Old horses live out their final years at an upstate horse farm, and many officers will show up at the stables long before the start of their shift just to groom their partners.
After 10 years on foot patrol, Officer Chris Farino, 33, recently won a coveted spot in the mounted troop. "I played cops and robbers a long time, and now that I'm on a horse, my picture's on everybody's refrigerator," he said.
Friends in the force rib him, saying he is a playboy who no longer works for a living. After all, he said, most people pay good money to spend a few hours on horseback.
"Compared to traditional policing," he said, "this feels like a vacation."
It's quarter to 11:00 - any word yet about the detective list?
Yes, they just faxed out a list of 110 detectives who will start on Monday.
Additionally, they made the following promotions:
85 sergeants
41 Lieutenants
6 Captains
Oh yeah, Starks and Grau retired and Maria Maher is the new 1st Deputy.
NOT!!!!
Now quit asking stupid quesitons.
Okay......the minute you have all been waiting for......FORTUNATE FOR SOME.....UNFORTUNATE FOR OTHERS.....JUST OFF THE TELETYPE...HOT OFF THE PRESS (I did not make this cut,,but congratulations to those that did) THE DETECTIVES LIST IS OUT..FINALLY...and just to satisfy some people that think i'm B.S.'ing some names on the list are ANN MYERS, MARIE GRANKOWSI, MARK STEWARD, GREGORY FITZGERALD....OKAY?
he or she is right.....det. list is out everyone
MORE NAMES PLEASE.....MORE NAMES....I AM SO EXCITED I WAS #65
LT. LIST OUT YET TOO???????
Would you believe BROWNING from 025 made detective?!
Tell us more about the kidnapping and murder case. Never heard a word!!!! And btw the judge in the criminal case should never have stated in his reading of the verdict that the officers acted with malice and without probable cause so I'm not sure if that believable. Also the lack of publicity as well as the number of officers alleged to be involved makes such an incident pretty unbelievable. If a civil case is filed and their is a ruling that the officers acted with malice, i.e., it was all a trumped up case, then you can bet the City will be trying to get off the hook and these guys will themselves end up looking at jail time - perjury, official misconduct, malicious prosecution, abuse of authority, etc. And what about the States Attorney's Office? Don't think this case ever happened, if it did name names, particularly the alleged offenders.
Weaver and Fitz made it from 12th District. Conratulations...these guys know their stuff too.
LUCKY!!!!!!!!!
Seiser is a Detective,WoW!
I love when somebody reposts the drunken nonsense posted overnight. It gives us daytime dollys something to read. Thanks reposter, I appreciate the reading material.
How many dicks were made
The question is how many district coppers made Detective? Those are the guys that got it on their test scores, not a phone call....
Did they make any?
whats the scoop on the coppers about to be indicted?? supposed to happening shortly... someone referred to it on an earlier post.
Detective list out....Happy Days are here again...
0928 THANK YOU!! Best laugh of the day! You hit the nail right on the head!
Detective Class starts Monday boys and girls. Go out and buy some nice detective clothing with your $6,000 dollar raise.
Mr. Ed at 10:38 AM
In the Mounted Patrol article by Andrew Jacobs, he writes that the NYPD Mounted Unit "...began patrolling some of the more troubled precincts of central Brooklyn, including East New York (75th Pct.) and Brownsville (73rd Pct.)..."
Even when you consider 007 and 011 in the CPD, it doesn't get any worse than arguably, the two most violent and crime-infested precincts in New York City: the 7-3 and the 7-5.
Should the CPD put the Mounted Unit in Fillmo' and da 'Wood?
can someone post the names?
11:28----what makes you think its nonsense? trying to distance yourself, slut. I bet you wear sunglasses too.....even at nite?
11:37----yea,right.....(wink,wink) I believe you
wow.....9:28 did say it right
9:28 said it right for all of those who are too stupid to study harder for the tests and get a good score....there are plenty who get promoted that deserve it along with those that don't deserve anything...don't shit on the whole process cause your number hasn't come up yet
this takes some balls...tagging Air Force One.
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RUSSHOE RUNS IT BITCHES
THE TRUTH IS OUT!!!
All test answers are posted in units 72 hours before the tests. However we're not allowed to xerox them. I'm going to have to get better at copying them down. That's right folks, my clout got me to to Call Back (Alternate Response to those of us with the "juice").
Wow! Did you see who's on the list? Unbelievable. Lot more then 20% merit on this list.
Hey, a bit off topic, but is the Det. list out? Cause I heard from someone that it was out. Does anyone here know if it is out? Someone else I know said, "no, it's not out." But then I was like, "but then why would someone say it was out if it wasn't out?" And he was like, "dude, it's just not out, get over it." And then I was like soooo mad, cause I want it to be out, I need it to be out. And someone else was totally like oh man its soooo out!!! I saw it and everything and I know names and its out man, ITS OUT. And Sara-Sue was like if its out than why havent i saw it??? I would sooo know if it was out. and then emily was like i dont care if its out cause i'm not on it and poop on the people that are and then pj was all your just jealous cause i'm on it and your not and that that guy who made the list liked me better than you cause your a skank. and then felicia was like ... emily stuffs her bra!!!! and we all laughed sooo hard. julie laughed so hard milk came out her nose. it was sooo cool.
So, like, is the list really out?
1:27
LMAO....
There are only three possible answers on the Sgt.'s test.
Kool Aid = played
Seiser = played
A/2 Gun Team = played
Hitney = played
Tommabunz = not that funny & never really caught on
These jokes are stupid and worn out. You guys sound like Dice Clay still seling the same shit 20 years later. Of course cops ruin everything they touch (cheap food, cheap booze, cheap broads), so I shouldn't be surprised.
"selling" for the spelling Nazis
It's a beautiful day out today and people are wondering about the detective test. Well, I got the PHONE CALL FROM PERSONAL already. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
SCC
Where retards come for solace.
OK sorry, but I have talked to some people and from what I can see it is appropriate to call BULL SH*% about the Detectives list...
Nobody can find it and training hasn't even been set up yet...When and where did the list supposedly come out?
Came out at 1100 on the fax.
WHEN THE LIBERAL ANTI-AMERICAN LEFT START THEIR BUSH BASHING THINK ABOUT THIS:
THERE WERE 39 COMBAT RELATED KILLINGS IN IRAQ IN JAN-06.
IN THE FAIR CITY IF DETROIT THERE WERE 35 MURDERS IN THE MONTH OF JAN-06. THIS IS JUST 1 AMERICAN CITY, ABOUT AS DEADLY AS THE ENTIRE WAR-TORN COUNTRY OF IRAQ.
When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:
1) FDR led us to WWII
2) Germany NEVER attacked us but Japan did. From 1941-45 450,000 lives lost... an average of 112,500 per year
3) Truman (Democrat) finished the war and started one in KOREA.
North Korea NEVER attacked us.
From 1950-53 55,000 lives lost
average of 18,334 per yr.
4) John F. Kennedy (Democrat) started the VietNam conflict in 1962. VietNam NEVER attacked us.
5) L.B Johnson (Democrat) turned VietNam into a quagmire...
1965-1975 58,000 lives lost
average of 5,800 per yr.
6) Bill Clinton (Democrat) went to war in BOSNIA without UN or FRENCH consent.
BOSNIA NEVER attacked us.
Clinton (Democrat) was offered Osama Bin Laden's head on a platter 3 times by SUDAN. Clinton did NOTHING. Osama has attacked us on numerous occasions.
7) In the years since TERRORISTS ATTACKED US, President Bush has crushed the Taliban, crippled Al-Quaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a TERRORIST (SADAM) who slaughtered over 300,000 of his own people.
The DEMOCRATS are complaining about how long the WAR is taking
BUT.....
It took LESS time to take IRAQ then it took JANET RENO (Democrat)
to take the Branch Dividian Compound where SHE burned 70 American citizens in their own home. This was a 51 Day OPERATION.
We have been looking for evidence of Chemical Weapons inside IRAQ for less time than it took HILLARY CLINTON (Democrat) to find the ROSE LAW FIRM billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the MARINES
to destroy the MEDINA REPUBLICAN GUARD than it took TED KENNEDY
(Democrat) to call the police after his car sank at CHAPPAQUIDDICK killing MARY JOE KOPECHNE.
It took less time to take IRAQ than it did to count the VOTES in FLORIDA!!!!!
Contrary to the MEDIA the MILITARY MORALE IS H I G H, the biased MEDIA hopes were too ignorant to realize the FACTS.
But wait......
There's MORE.......
Some people STILL don't understand why MILITARY personnel do what they do for a living. The following is an EXCHANGE between Senators GLEN (Democrat) and METZENBAUM......
JOHN GLEN (ON THE FLOOR OF THE U.S. SENATE)
MON 26Jan2004 11:13 HRS
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Sen. GLEN (D-OHIO)
"How can you run for Senate when you have never held a REAL job?"
Senator Glenn (D-OHIO)
" I served 23 yrs. in the United States Marine Corps. I served thru 2 WARS. I flew 149 missions.
My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire in 12 different occassions. I was in the SPACE program. It wasn't my checkbook, HOWARD: it was MY life on the line. It was NOT a 9-5 job, where I took time off to take the daily cash reciepts to the bank."
"I ask you to go with me...as I did the other day...to a Veterans Hospital and look at those men...with their mangled bodies, in the eye and TELL THEM they didn't hold a job!"
YOU go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go as I have gone to the WIDOWS and ORPHANS of Ed White, Gus Grissom, and Roger Chaffee.... and look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job."
"YOU go with me on MEMORIAL DAY and you stand in Arlington National Cemetary, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and YOU watch those waving flags."
"YOU stand there, and YOU think about this nation, and YOU TELL ME that THOSE PEOPLE didn't have a job!"
"What about YOU?"
For those who DON"T remember....
During WORLD WAR II, HOWARD METZENBAUM (DEMOCRAT) was an attorney representing the COMMUNIST PARTY IN THE U.S.A.
Now he's a U.S. SENATOR(DEMOCRAT)
If you can read this, thank a teacher............
If you are reading this in ENGLISH thank A VETERAN!!!!
DON'T LET THOSE AMERICAN HATING BUSH BASHING LIBERALS GET AWAY WITH THEIR LYING BULLSHIT.
^^^ Fucken awsome ^^^
The Department’s new Patrol Corporal list is out!!!!
Just came out over the FAX!!!!
D2A+ Pay…..
WHY DID THE CITY TAKE AWAY GUN REGISTRATION FROM THE DETECTIVE DIVISION??????
IN ANOTHER STUPID ASS MOVE THE POWERS TO BE TOOK AWAY THE GUN REGISTRTION LINK FROM PO'S & DETECTIVES. SO ON THOSE POLICE SHOOTINGS NO INFORMATION WILL BE FORTHCOMING ON WEAPONS, ON SEARCH WARRANTS, AND HOW ABOUT THOSE STOLEN GUNS THAT NEED TO BE ENTERED AND SEARCHED BY DETECTIVES??????
The Gunnery Sgt. List is out.
The new position will commence on 31 MAY 2006.
Starting 31 Oct 2006 a list will be out for the new position of Rear Admirals. Master Rear Admiral Ronnie Lubberman will be the Department HEAD.
3 Captains demoted Art Para, Nate Hamilton and ? anyone know who the third is? GREAT JOB ART
Randy Barton is the 3rd
From Lt to Commander (009) back to Lt then promoted to Capt now back to Lt...what a ride.
Cline did a video today -
he runs in a race and crosses the finish line before all the other runners.
This is no lie.
I can't wait to see this streaming video!
The NYPD RANT now has a DOMAIN NAME:
www.NYPDrants.com
(Note the "S")
They now have an average of over 102,000 visitors daily.
New sergeants off the old list just faxed to the districts. Can not believe who is on it.
018..
To: 6:08
Capt. Rick Elmer from 013 was dumpped to Lt. also
6:44pm that's because of everyone else that is chasing him lol he's running like hell
no list?
THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26TH AT 10:00A.M.
Does anyone from Ald. Allen's Ward or otherwise know if he is going to introduce the Hampton street ordinance? Haven't read anything about it in a couple of weeks. What's up?
IAD Question? Can a chicago police officers wife and kids live outside the city if the officer maintains a residence in the city?
YES... As long as that Officer spends a majority of the time at the residence in the city.
Anonymous said...
Wow! Did you see who's on the list? Unbelievable. Lot more then 20% merit on this list.
4/18/2006 01:26:50 PM
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No, they are cheaters!
YEAH, NO PROBLEM SEINCE THE CITY FUCKED US OUT OF THE 10 HR DAYS !
THAT'S OK....THE NEW GUYS....CITY HIRES.....CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING ANYWAY.....IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME !
I WILL GIVE YOU 300,000.00 FOR YOUR 970 SQ FT N/W SIDE RANCH......AND YOU WILL BLOW ME FOR TACKING IT.....YOU ONLY PAID 190,000.00 ANYWAY !
a drunk angry white man, no doubt !
No, I paid about 130,000.00
You can't have your wife live out the city unless your legally seperated. They will can your ass.
Anonymous said...
IAD Question? Can a chicago police officers wife and kids live outside the city if the officer maintains a residence in the city?
4/18/2006 09:58:39 PM
see above
If the list is really out then someone post the names.
No the Det list is not out. Its just the same Jagoffs being Asshats.
Im all for registration...this blog is nothing but shit now.
Bull$#!+! Your wife and kids CAN live outside of the limits. As long as you have a residence within the city limits and spend most of your time at that residence.
Your wife doesn't work for the city, you do.
You're right. I used to work with a guy (now retired) whose wife & kids lived in Niles. He was on the shit list for being a shooter, all legit; so they came after him over the residency issue. IAD couldn't begin to make it stick, they tried, but no success.
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