Big Oops
- Members of a South Side family said they were stunned, baffled and horrified when Chicago police raided their house and then ransacked it. Police said they were searching for guns and drugs. The problem is [...] they had the wrong house.
The Search Warrant reads 5621 S. Normal. The house that was raided is 5619. On one side is 5623 and on the other side 5617.
5621 doesn't exist.
As we understand Search Warrants (having done a few here and there AND having taken Chief Cline's class years ago - at least we think we might have), one of the first rules is verifying the address. Also, pictures of the house to be hit should be obtained. That way, everyone is on the same page. We have no idea how the SWAT Team is supposed to operate in conjunction with a District Warrant, but it seems there is a boatload of blame to be passed around on this one. The Affiant first of all. The Surveillance team second. The District Supervisor on scene and the SWAT Team leader. Get ready for some blowback AND some more training videos.
5621 doesn't exist.
As we understand Search Warrants (having done a few here and there AND having taken Chief Cline's class years ago - at least we think we might have), one of the first rules is verifying the address. Also, pictures of the house to be hit should be obtained. That way, everyone is on the same page. We have no idea how the SWAT Team is supposed to operate in conjunction with a District Warrant, but it seems there is a boatload of blame to be passed around on this one. The Affiant first of all. The Surveillance team second. The District Supervisor on scene and the SWAT Team leader. Get ready for some blowback AND some more training videos.
posted by SCC at 9:20 AM
48 Comments:
I've seen this happen a few times...this is just one of the ones that hit the press.
Not much will come of it, even though you'd think at the very least the tact sergeant/and or Lieutenant ( if he was even there ) should get dumped over something that serious.
Hopefully the Judge that signed it will remember the goofs that presented it to him, and obvioulsy lied, to get it signed.
Something else the City will end up paying for
RE-ELECT MAYOR RAY NAGIN!
Hope they sent the "Police Carpenter" out to fix front door ..
The intelligentsia of New Orleans knows that Brother Nagin be DA MAN!
Whats the big deal? So they hit the wrong house....like thats never happened before.
Whats the big deal? So they hit the wrong house....like thats never happened before.
4/23/2006 11:39:48 AM
They had a warrant for an address that doesn't exist, THAT is a BIG problem. Means they not only falsified their affidavit, but did sloppy, if any, investigation into the address and it's surrounding area before the warrant.
Honest mistakes are one thing. Straight up sloppy bullshit like this deserves a good spanking!
SH*T HAPPENS. ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK AND IF YOU HAVE TO, TRIPLE CHECK. IF THIS REALLY HAPPENED, SOUNDS LIKE A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TWO "TEAMS". YA GOT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE,BABY. ITS LIKE THE OLD SAYING, "HIT TONS OF HOUSES WITH SEARCH WARRANTS AND GET GOOD SH*T, YOU ARE A GREAT WORKING COP, BUT HIT THE WRONG HOUSE once ....you'll be known as a COCKSUCKER.
....that means...like...wow...my....tact team.....its...gotta like a lot of cocksuckers on it.
can't blame the SWAT team for this 1, whose ever warrant this was provided them with the address,photos and current discription of the house and we all know that the addresses are not always posted on the residence--- especially in the ghetto....
Did SWAT actually do the entry?
according to the video, I think swat is the only 1's in the dept with automatic weapons and flash bangs..... sounds like they did make the entry...... a little blame goes to the swat sgt, he should made sure the address on the warrant was good, not just go by description and photos....thats the problem when you rely on other people intell.....
Sounds to me like they hit the right house, but put the wrong numbers on the warrant. Its sometimes difficult to get the proper numbers when no house on the block has a visible address. That being said, they could have gone to the Cook County Assessor's web site for the address. Unfortunately, the photos are often unavailable.
I wouldn't be to hard on this team, as its a completely understandable error.
speaking of Swat, what ever happened to Sgt. Ray Hamilton? Why did is he in 016?
Make the police pay! If the search warrant is messed up and the wrong house is hit they should be fired. Learn to read the warrant first before you hit the house!
Fired my be a little extreme, but thats just lazy ! and I've do more than a few. got some negatives but never the wrong door.
No bullshit, I hear A/2 gun team hit the wrong condo in 024 a few ago. anyone hear the same?
and im not jumoing on the a/2 band wagon just heard it was true.
Sounds to me like they hit the right house, but put the wrong numbers on the warrant. Its sometimes difficult to get the proper numbers when no house on the block has a visible address. That being said, they could have gone to the Cook County Assessor's web site for the address. Unfortunately, the photos are often unavailable.
I wouldn't be to hard on this team, as its a completely understandable error.
4/23/2006 01:02:17 PM
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Nope, It was the WRONG house
That is a FACT
Too funny about Crotty & Dominick's. I had forgotten all about her. The only time I met her was about a year ago when I was at that Dominick's. When I was coming from the elevator one of the usual suspects was standing outside the south door shaking down the guilt ridden yuppies as they went in and out. When I was leaving 2 female P.O.'s were outside with the usual suspect and a M/2 yuppie. One of the P.O.'s was waving her arms around and yelling at the yuppie. So I walked out the door and stood a discreet distance away in case things went bad. The conversation went something in the way of, "WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE CALLING THE POLICE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH." The P.O. who was doing the "talking" looked at me and yelled, "CAN I HELP YOU!" I told her I was off-duty P.O. and she yelled back, "WE DON'T NEED YOUR HELP!" I walked closer to her to apologize, but I really just wanted to see her nametag. Then I left. What a class act.
ymous said...
Make the police pay! If the search warrant is messed up and the wrong house is hit they should be fired. Learn to read the warrant first before you hit the house!
4/23/2006 01:23:58 PM Whoever wrote the above, Sir you are an asshole!! Wrong houses are hit all the time and there are multiple reasons for it, Some warrants are just by descriptions of where the house is located. You want the copper fired and the city to pay.....fuck you kid!!
Who the hell does search warrants anymore? Dorks enjoy your lawsuit trying to save ghetto.....Bid to 008 or 016 and protect your own.
answering "holding offender"
calls at dominicks on 1212's beat doesn't exactly make someone a worker...crotty... and no i wasn't turned down, would never be intersted in that skank
"Can't blame TWAT...addresses are not always posted on the residence--- especially in the ghetto...."
Yes you can blame swat. Address is on the front of the building! They even showed it on the news.
"Some warrants are just by descriptions of where the house is located."
Yeah, well this one had the address on it.
Plus these assholes did not notify the boss in 007 before the execution (Very bad form)and then high tailed it back up north with out letting anyone know. The "boss" who led this courageous effort refused to come back to talk to the homeowners and left it up to the District's Sergeants to handle. All around pompous foolishness. Sorry but it deserves ALL the criticism it is getting.
it's not up to swat to notify the watchcommander, it's the resposibility of the the tact Lt of the unit who drew the warrant to begin with......
WHY WERE THE SWAT GUYS THROWING FLASH-BANGS IN THE WINDOW ON THE WARRANT?? DID THEY BLOW UP STUFF IN THE HOUSE? AND IT WAS THE WRONG ADDRESS? MAN THATS BAD......
HOW MANY OF YOU FOOLS GOING TO WATCH THAT SILLY-ASS SOPRANOS SHOW? MAN THATS SO DORKED.
Lt who drew the search warrant?? what the fuck does that mean ??
you know what your talking about?
well, were the SWAT Team at least invited to dinner since it was the wrong home? Hell, might as well make the best out of it!!
SOPRANOS UPDATE, PLEASE
THANX
Just a little info on the warrant, know the guys that did it, good guys. Anyway, the bird that flipped for them pointed out the house and it was the house they hit. The house did not, I repeat did not have an address on it during the time it was pointed out, during the recon by either the affiant or swat and when it was served. They put the numbers on the house after they consulted with an attorney. They also trashed the house after the police left. It was the right house but they screwed up on the address. Shit happens.
Anyone else hear this new ghetto anthem?
I did a sound impound for some a-hole that was blaring this song. Here are the lyrics:
(sorry its kinda long but i thought it was pretty funny)
They see me rollin'
They hatin patrollin and tryna catch me ridin dirty
Tryn' ta catch me ridin dirty (4X)
My music so loud I'm swangin
They hopin' that they gone catch me ridin dirty
Tryn' ta catch me ridin dirty (4X)
[Chamillionaire]
Grindin to see if they can see me lean
I'm tense, so it ain't easy to be seen
When you see me ride by they can see these gleam
And my shine on the deck and the TV screen
Now ridin with a new chick, she like "Hold up"
Next to the Playstation controlla
It's a full clip and my pistolla, send a jacker into a coma
Girl you ain't know I'm crazy like Krayzie Bone
Just tryna bone, ain't tryna have no babies
Ride clean as hell, so I pull in ladies
Laws on patrol and you know they hate me (Know ya hate me)
Music turned up all the way to the maximum
I got speakers, some niggaz tryna jack for some
But we packin somethin and what we have for um
We'll have a nigga locked up in a maximum, security cell
I'm grippin oak (Oak)
Music loud and I'm tippin slow (Slow)
Twins steady twistin like "Hit this dough"
D's behind and it's in re-throwed
Windows down, gotta stop pollution
City change just like, "Who is that producin?"
That's the Play N Skillz when we out and cruisin
Got warrants in every city except Houston/ But I still ain't losin
[Chorus: Chamillionaire]
They see me rollin'
They hatin patrollin and tryna catch me ridin dirty
Tryn' ta catch me ridin dirty (4X)
My music so loud I'm swangin
They hopin' that they gone catch me ridin dirty
Tryn' ta catch me ridin dirty (4X)
[Krayzie Bone]
I've been (Cenz.) and smokin, holy shit cause I really can't focus
I gotta get it home before the po-po's scope this
Big ole Excursion just swerve'n, all up in the curb'n
A nigga be sippin on the Hennessey and the Gin again
its in again we in the wind
Don't wanna hold up while I puff on the blunt
I roll another one up, and leave it like we ain't givin a fuck
I got a blunt up in my right hand
40 0z. in my lap, freezin my balls
Rollin up a tree, green leaves and all
Comin' pretty deep me and my dogs
Yo' I gotta hit the back streets
Wanted by the six-five and I got heat
glock, glock shots to the block, we creep creep
Pop pop hope cops dont see me on the low key
With no regard for the law, we dodge 'em like, "Fuck 'em all"
But I won't get caught up and brought up on charges for none of y'all
Keep a gun in car and a blunt to spark
wonder if you want nigga it poppin dog
Ready or not, we bust shots off in the air
Krayzie Bone and Chamillionaire (Millionaire)
[Chorus: Chamillionaire]
They see me rollin'
They hatin patrollin and tryna catch me ridin dirty
Tryn' ta catch me ridin dirty (4X)
My music so loud I'm swangin
They hopin' that they gone catch me ridin dirty
Tryn' ta catch me ridin dirty (4X)
[Chamillionaire]
You wouldn't think it so, I tryed ta let cha go
Turn on my blanker light, and then I swang it slow
and they upset for fa sho
Cause they think they know
that they catchin me with plenty of the drank and dro' (No)
So they get behind me, tryna catch my tags
Look in my rearview and they smilin
Thinkin they'll catch me in the wrong, they keep tryin (Keep tryin)
steady denyin that it's racial profilin
Houston, Texas you can check my tags (Tags)
Pull me over, try to check my slab (Slab)
Glove compartment, gotta get my cash
cause the crooked cops'll try to come up fast
Bein the balla that I am, I'm talk to them not givin a
damn about them not feelin my attitude
When they realize I ain't even ridin dirty
Bet you'll be leavin with an even madder mood (Hahaha)
Then I'll laugh at you then I'll have to cruise
Ya my number two on some old school DJ Screw
You can't arrest me, plus you can't sue
This is a message to the laws, tell 'em "We hate you"
I could be tough tell 'em that they shoulda known
Tippin down, sittin crooked on my chrome
Bookin my phone, findin a chick I wanna bone
Like they couldn't stop me
I'm bout to pull up at your home, and it's on
[Chorus: Chamillionaire (2X)]
They see me rollin'
They hatin patrollin and tryna catch me ridin dirty
Tryn' ta catch me ridin dirty (4X)
My music so loud I'm swangin
They hopin' that they gone catch me ridin dirty
Tryn' ta catch me ridin dirty (4X)
[Outro]
*tires squeel*
AWWW...OHHHHHhhh Shit
Damn man
*horn honks*
"They put the numbers on the house after they consulted with an attorney."
Above comment is complete and utter bullshit. The supervisor who had to go try and clean up the mess after they left was laughing because the house had the address clearly posted out front.Nice try though.
1:06
Good post, it's amazing that after all the monies this city pay's out to law suits, there isn't a unit of dedicated retired dic's working for the corperation council's office.
Hey city, there's an idead!
To 9:55:06,drew the warrant? Meaning going throu proper procedures to obtain a search, since you have no authority to enter a dwelling without a judges signature on a warrant(constitutional Law) You draw the warrant from the Judge!!!! aka getting permission.. according to new special orders, you must have a Lt. with you on a search warrant, so what ever unit got the warrant, their LT. should of notified the on duty watchcommader, not SWAT... our only job is to enter residence, secure it and its occupants and then turn over to the unit who got the warrant--- we do not search for guns and drugs, only people....if those people happen to have guns and drugs on them then it gets turn over to unit who got the warrant. Flash bangs used when there is a high probability that the occupants will shot at us, ergo violent convicted felon, or automatic weapons are believed to be in the house... we don't abuse this tool... Oh thats right you would never use them if you could because you are invinsible and you are way tuffer than the bad guys..... You use what ever the dept allows you to use--- end of story, why? because WE go home to our family every night, not the morgue... if thats alright with you
ooops!
11:33
SWAT,Not trying to blame you guys as much as the jackass team who wrote the warrant. Good lesson for SWAT in the future though, you're gonna have to double check the work of those asking for your help. This is CPD after all the home of mediocrity, "merit", and the "phone call".
still wrong sorry Lts dont draw warrants.
Your an affiant or the Judge THATS ALL YOU NEED !
you want to use flash bangs go ahead i didnt say you couldnt.
you have never gotten one have you. cause you have no idea whatyour talking about.
Thanks for the warrant and con law class-obviously you've never been in a foot chase that ended up in a house, or ever taken the time to get a warrant, because you have absolutely no clue. And the "new Special Order" about Lt's? Haven't been doing many search warrants I guess, because it's not new. You also have horrible grammar, which I guess is okay because you're phone call didn't care, and apparently READING isn't a top priority of SWAT. At least not reading numbers. YES, the affiant and both the Swat supervisor and Lt. who came along will share this liability. That's the way it goes.
*F* the "victims" in this case!
They probably didn't have an address placard on the front of their 'crib' - just like the other 80% of the residences on their block who don't.
If they can't be bothered to identify their own address, then why should the CPD be held accountable?
Just more Woo-Woo and another chance to sue the City of DeepPockets. It will also be another race-based storyline for Mary Mitchell to use in her column.
Here's a great argument for the Commander of SWAT, and the Lt. that have been begging for the right equipment to do these high risk entries. Digital cameras and video drive-by's of the target location as part of their pre-op briefing.
What did the department give em, (2) broken flat screens. And the Department took (2) of their "blacked-out" vans away from them.
The SWAT team took flight for "when SHTF" plus the barricaded people stuff and hostages, but the Department won't spend a dime on em.
Not until something bad happens......
God forbid a PO gets hurt.......
Never said it was the Lt that gets the warrant, what I said is that Lt has to be on ever search warrant---as far as being a new special order, it must be new to the dumbass that did not know a Lt is required to go on every warrant. As far as my grammar, sorry didn't realize that this was english class----I was speaking out of context---- thats what happens when you work 18yrs in ghetto.... Next time I'll use proper grammar.... keep up the good work professor......FNG's
Oh Great......first,I find out that we have a football team, ......now you're telling me that we have a SWAT team? Does anyone at 35th Street know about this?
So, the argument is now that the residents of the house had extra address numerals laying around the house just in case something like this would happen.
We gotta stop reaching here kids, they made a mistake. We all have at one time or another. They (SWAT)) are gonna have to suck it up and take it like a man.
How is it SWATS fault? We were not the ones who got the warrant from the judge with the bad address on it. I can see it being our fault if the warrant had the right address but we hit the wrong house.....
All you have to do is go on the Cook County Assessors web page and type in the address ... if its not in there ... then you best be checking it .... and you get a picture of the joint too ...
yes we went to the cook county assessors web site and it appears they are not paying taxes... look at the site the addresses go from 5605 to 5621 and then 5637...the house the show in the site is 5621 but on the street it is penciled in as 5617, so how and the hell are we suppose to see addresses that are penciled in and covered by awnings 5619 at night while doing our recon without blowing the warrant that isn't even ours... we had to rely on the tact teams info becuse the dept won't give us a covert vehicle........
the right house was hit, but wrong address was put on warrant.....you can't see the address from the street because it is tucked away under the canopy......... end of story....so fuck all of you haters.....
I hear heads are going to roll on this one. 2 Lt's out??
yall don't need a covert car. Just jump in the back of a cage car witha hoodie on and boom!
Why is Chicago re-inventing th wheel when it coem to SWAT? Wasn't there a HBT before? Just what did those guys do? Hasn't LAPD's SWAT been around since the 60's or 70's?? Why is this so hard?
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