Performance Ratings
Sometimes, our readers are just too damn efficient. We didn't get around to reading the comments section until late this morning and then the Sun Times even later and - lo and behold! - our readers have already started commenting on the new Performance Rating System set to come on line shortly.
We were among those glad to see the old system go. It was ripe for abuses (not to mention ancient, outdated, overly subjective ... you get the idea) and was abused regularly. Now we have a new system about to come about and here's the kicker:
We were among those glad to see the old system go. It was ripe for abuses (not to mention ancient, outdated, overly subjective ... you get the idea) and was abused regularly. Now we have a new system about to come about and here's the kicker:
- The system will also help set benchmarks for successful performance, he added. Good numbers by "high achievers" could be used for better assignments, he said.
They always throw out this "carrot" to get us to accept programs or at least resist them less. Anyone remember the "$1,000 for 5 years" incentive to work in busy districts? They promised people who completed it first shot at better assignments. How about the "Furlough by Watch" proposal to get more vets to bid to busy districts? That has gone away. Or maybe the 10 hour work schedule? Snatched away by the City without so much as an explanation. Does anyone really believe that "choice assignments" are ever going to go to anyone who (A) isn't already impressing bosses with their work, (B) doesn't have a phone call or (C) (we'll let you imagine what (C) is).
As to the "not being used as a disciplinary tool" spiel, we highly doubt that also. Off the tops of our heads, we can name half a dozen people on this job right now who have been on the medical for over 250 days in the past 5 years of all ranks, races and genders. And what action has been taken against any of them? None that we've ever seen. Any situations revealed by this new system will be used selectively, unevenly and punitively.
They always have in the past - why believe they'll change now? Anyone want to bet against us?
As to the "not being used as a disciplinary tool" spiel, we highly doubt that also. Off the tops of our heads, we can name half a dozen people on this job right now who have been on the medical for over 250 days in the past 5 years of all ranks, races and genders. And what action has been taken against any of them? None that we've ever seen. Any situations revealed by this new system will be used selectively, unevenly and punitively.
They always have in the past - why believe they'll change now? Anyone want to bet against us?
posted by SCC at 1:15 PM
62 Comments:
First Big Deal. Why did the FOP come out in favor of this new program. I think we all know the City will use it as a tool to take care of the people they want and screw the rest of us.
Blame that MICKEY MOUSE MUSKETEER AREA 2 GUN TEAM for PERFORMANCE RATINGS. EVERY WEEK after the DOC meeting...Did you see what the AREA 2 gun team did?did you see what the AREA 2 GUN TEAM got?Why can't you guys be more like the AREA 2 GUN TEAM? It's downright sickening. Arrrghhh. Them guys from the gun team down in AREA 2 are the MICKEY MOUSE MUSKETEERS allright..cause they get MUSKETS from OLE PEOPLE...Lookee here boss look what I got from the 90 year old man with the colostemy bag that was sitting in his wheel chair that was parked in the nursing room lobby..a MUSKET...yea BOSS it still got SOME BLACKPOWDER in it. YEA THATS RIGHT AREA 2 GUN TEAM....you guys are the MUSKET...EERS ALLRIGHT. GETTING MUSKETS FROM SENIOR CITIZENS. and THEN counting them as REAL GUNS jamming us with the PERFORMANCE RATINGS FOR THE OTHER TEAMS.
how can fop be warm to this new procedure the city will implement plus swiping in, and yet didnt fop forgive the city millions in pension relief. what did we get in return???
(whaaaap!) thank you sir may i have another.
(whaaaaaap!) thank you may i have another!
(whhhaaaapp!!!) thank you sir may i have another!
we are such chumps... time to DUMP F.O.P.!!
From what I've seen posted here, none of you do anything but Part 1's, never hit the medical and are all god's gift to policing. This shouldn't affect any of you in the least.
Off topic here, however nice day out but decided to take a trip down to our public library!
Anyone can view the Chicago Trib historical archives at no cost.
SEP 16, 1969---
(picture of Bobby Rush) BPP records show misuse of funds. Book keeping ledgers from April 7 -June 7 show Rush nicknamed "Che" used money for the breakfast program to buy himself glasses, tires, car note, and Fred Hampton Sr used funds to buy himself a new suit and books for private use
Other info on there as well
June 11, 1969 -
16 BPP Indicted for kidnapping and torture of (2) Summit residents as they either had or knew the whereabouts of a missing BPP weapon. In custody: Fred Hampton of 804 S. 17th Ave Maywood
Also--- when he was arrested for that ice cream incident, witnesses say he choked the driver
Oct 1, 1969 -
BPP found to have infiltrate police
departments in NY City, Philly, San Fran and Ca. Chicago warned
Oct 4, 1969 -
(2) Chicago cops hurt after getting a call that shots were being fired off of the roof of the BPP headquarters.
After more cops showed up, BPP began looting and arson of businesses on the same block
Oct 30, 1969 --
Gage High School Teacher and Crane High Chief beaten after BPP start riots at school
June 26, 1968 -
Chief of Police Churchill and Lt. Jones-Head of Narc threatened with life by BPP
July 22, 1968 -
1500 americna men, part of BPP Thai arrive in Vietnam to double forces in south vietnam
July 31, 1968 -
Major riots, shootings in: Seattle, Muncie, Ind., Kalamazoo, MI., Pacifica, Ca., Peoria, Ill., and Goldsboro, NC --all BPP incited "If you have a gun and don't plan to use it, give it to someone who will"
Sniper hits roof of police car, injuring 2 cops. Fire bombings and rock throwning injure 3 more cops and civilians. Police did not return gunfire
Aug 26, 1968 -
(3) huge blasts rip into Newark Norht Citizen s Office. Area tryign to clean up rapes, drugs, etc and Anthony IMperiate states he had to change tel number 3 times as getting threats by BPP
Oct 2, 1968 -
FBI has info that BPP shows foreign involvement in differne t degrees
Oct 8, 1968-
Newark, NJ cop threatened with his life if he will testify against BPP Lerol Jones. The officer also got tel calls at home threatening him if he testified
Oct 10, 1968-
Recruitign begins in Illinois with Blackstone Rangers, Egyptioan Cobras and Vice Lords present
Every computerized system has the same basic flaw, "Garbage in garbage out".
The honorable mention was a tool to say "atta-boy" for honest effort
unfortunately, especially in busier districts, the sgts were too busy and tired to write them up. Eventually they went by the wayside.
History just repeats itself. Another problem was the hardass WC who used, "They're only doing their jobs" as a reason to perpetuate his lazy outlook for not saying nice job.
Does anyone truly believe that this computerized system of activity is going to change in behalf of the mopey dopey PO's without clout?? I don't
But I do see recorded opportunities to track "problems" and only those who have the bad fortune to be pursued by a zealot or someone who is taking all of this for real.
Will there be checks and balances?
What's going to happen when the racial imbalance appears? It will.
just more clouds over the sunny valley of the CPD.
Nov 8, 1968 -
English Instructor and BPP member George Murray fired for telling black students to bring guns to school against white establishment Bombs set off after his firing, fires in rest rooms, cafeteria, etc. one arrest a student from nigeria with package fo explosives
Nov 13- still unrest at the above school-one cop kicked and hurt, tv cameraman hurt
Nov 30, 1968- 5th Police pct in New Jersey gets parayed by 20 bullets from automatic weapon, 7 BPP arrested later
Nov 30, 1968 -
(2) BPP here in Chicago rob money and take ID's of two Univ of chicago students. Students flagged down chicaog cops, and cops arrest the 2 bpp in bpp uniforms
There was too much information to even write down plus the printer threw out blank pages when we tried printing much more. I know there was another thing about Bobby Rush, I think, being arrested and more about the funding of the programs behind the BPP.
Thanks to the library for helping us out and who were equally disgusted on our findings
OFF TOPIC BUT PLANNING A TRIP THIS SUMMER. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN PART 2 OF SGT. EXAM IS. THANKS.
This new system won't work because of the medical roll abuse. It needs mega-gigga bites and multi-mega super duper stuff in it to calculate just the number of times Dorey Ahearn (016/1st) and the ever popular center fold Maria Bazookas...(016/Garraro's old play toy)have been on the mdical. It is absolutly embarrassing to the rest of the rank and file.
Take note you computer geeks in the CPD. Super size computers and super wide screens to show these useless chicks fat asses too.
The ONLY fair basis should be heavily weighted to INCIDENTS involving PART I FELONY ARRESTS, excluding shoplifting runs.
Show me an officer who has made hundreds of PART I FELONY ARRESTS sometime during his/her career and I'll show you a copper that has EARNED peer respect and deserves advancement.
You must live in a fantasy world. All I've seen in the last 15 years is that every time someone is doing a good job there are a dozen assholes lined up around the corner, usually the "real police", talking shit about them. I couldn't imagine a job with less unity and fraternity. I couldn't believe the pettiness and jealousy when I was first hired. The worst part is that it's aimed at coworkers, not the bosses. Guys walking around with huge egos and little dicks. You see it on this site in every thread. Bitterness, anger, & jealousy are part of the culture on this job. Very few are respected.
04:05
I agree with you 100%.
What everyone fails to realize is that this "program" that will evaluate us is designed by the Oracle corporation. They specialize in BUISNESS, not police departments. Each category will have an assigned value. x amount of arrests in six months will give you this rating #. x amount of movers= this. So on and so on. A computer program will grade your performance. If I were a supervisor I'd be little insulted. I guy on the medical for 200 days fighting cancer, too frigging bad. Your unit and the nurse in the medical section will know why you been off so long but HQ will just get a red flag. The computer system makes our jobs that much easier, but it cannot evaluate figures the way the human mind can.
I agree with you 100%.
4/15/2006 04:15:45 PM
And I agree with both of you!
As much as everyone screams "one for all and all for one" here on this blog, all I've EVER seen in the real world is "me me me me me me" from the lowly civilian lock up aides all the way up the food chain.
I don't know if it's a result of the job, or a pre-requisite to doing this job, but coppers are generally self-centered jagoffs. Me included.
Copyright Chicago Sun Times
May 13, 1992
A 22-year-old man who told police he is the son of slain Black Panther leader Fred Hampton was charged Tuesday in the weekend firebombings of two KoreanAmerican-owned shops on the South Side.
Alfred Johnson, of the 5600 block of South Wood, also known as Fred Hampton Jr., was charged with two counts of aggravated arson and two counts of arson. He was arrested Monday night by police and FBI agents in front of his home.
The firebombings Saturday afternoon caused minor damage to Lee's Men's Fashions and the M.J. Jewelry store, both in the Englewood Shopping Concourse in the 6300 block of South Halsted. Two people were slightly hurt.
Chief of Detectives John T. Stibich said the arrest came after police received "the aid of the community." He said citizens gave police several names and nicknames of the suspect.
Detectives were then able to track down Johnson, who was identified as the arsonist in police lineups, police officials said. Johnson had been arrested several times previously.
"He states he is the son of Fred Hampton," Stibich said. "We have no reason not to believe him."
Black Panther leaders Fred Hampton and Mark Clark were slain in a controversial raid by state's attorney's police Dec. 4, 1969. Hampton's son was born a few weeks before the raid.
The FBI took part in the firebombing investigation because of possible hate crime and civil rights violations. Police officials indicated there was a possibility of federal charges in the incident.
Tae Palk, 38, the owner of Lee's Men's Fashions, said he had never heard of either the younger or elder Hampton.
"I can't understand why this happened," Palk said. ". . . I've had no problems with blacks."
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Why do you cops like to take the peoples guns? Are you scared of the citizens being armed? Maybe without that gun you are just punks?
Why do you cops like to take the peoples guns? Are you scared of the citizens being armed? Maybe without that gun you are just punks?
4/15/2006 06:53:40 PM
Poor baby...got your ass beat didn't you?
Let me "axe" you a question: did the big bad boogeyman police use his gun when he treated you like the bitch that you are? No...he didn't need to did he?
Go file your Lawsuit and get in line. Act like a cunt, and get paid for it...it's the Chicago way.
Why the hell would anyone spend such a perfect day in the library researching shit from almost 40 years ago to post here?
I can answer your question, the cause and effect is none other than a "D O G" it is worse than cancer.A " D O G" will infect the working coppers with the disease and turn them into dogs. This in turn keeps cycling itself, until a watch,district,and a department becomes infected with them. The working Copper is tired of handling its job fast and efficiently while the dog makes eveyone else work harder.I know of some D O G S who come to work just to see how much work they can get out of doing in the course of the tour .Then the worst insult to a working copper is when a D O G A S S gets a spot in a unit while a working copper doesnt even get recognized.To top it off this city doesnt back up working coppers.
Morale is at a all time low and if this is the city's idea to fix it ,they have a problem.Why is that inspectors go to court and try to write a working copper who is arresting offenders and going to court while the D O G never gets written up because they never make an arrest.
Because the D O G usually, at the very least, has his uniform squared away, while the "working police" feel that they can look however they want since they make arrests. You need a head, so you got to the dope spot/fishing hole. The Inspector needs his head so he goes to his fishing hole.
Pretty easy to beat an Inspector. Do what you are supposed to do and he's got nothing. Take a shortcut, then cry to someone who gives a shit.
How fucking hard is it to wear the uniform correctly and sign in and out the right way?
morale sucks because rank and file here this crap from the media and not from our own Department.
Press release before they inform US is a load of crap
morale sucks because rank and file here this crap from the media and not from our own Department.
Press release before they inform US is a load of crap
4/15/2006 08:05:29 PM
I agree with you totally.
Please stop all the bitching and moaning about all these petty issues. How the hell can you be so angry? Its not like you are hauling loads of concrete for 12 hours a day. The city gives you a car and a gun and says come back in eight hours. What you do with that eight is up to you. Realize what you have and smile. It only hurts for a little while.
Hey how many of you goof cops gonna watch that stupid sopranos show?? You guys just soap opera bitches!
I can see it now, this new computer system was put together by the same people that set up the new software for finance
City gives us a gun?? GREAT!!! Where do I get in line??
i think they say come back in 16hrs...unless u do double tours of duty everyday
Hey A/2 gun team, hear me out guys and gals, i was in the room that nite your team got all those guns(remember the almost 300 of them)that was a great cache of weapons dude had and a grand recovery. i heard from the "underground" that for the most part the other officers were pretty positive about your team. its ONLY some GOOFS that are putting your team down....STILL. i know your team is still getting guns and are busy working. i see your team walking out with the sledgehammers, and the big ram TO STILL DO WORK TO THIS VERY DAY. WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO ME? That you guys are WORKERS. If someone from "that other team" got what you did i'm sure that that would be the last piece of work for a century. Call me nieve, but for us "new" cops, you are setting a good example of what WE think police work is. WE are behind you 100%. Good work and DON'T EVER LET THEM GET TO YOU.
I have some questions that maybe the FOP should ask before they start saying this is a good idea.
(for the purpose of these questions activity means: movers, parkers, curfews, dispersals, arrests, etc.)
Is the new computer evaluation system going to include:
1. How many jobs you handle in a day and the lack of activity it caused?
2. How many case reports you had to fill out and all the notifications and faxes you had to make in a day that cause a lack of activity?
3. How many traffic crashes you had to handle in a day that cause a lack of activity?
4. How many assists you did that caused a lack of activity?
5. Time down on lunch that caused a lack of activity?
6. Time down at beat meetings that caused a lack of activity?
7. Time down guarding prisoners at the hospital that caused a lack of activity?
8. Time down guarding crime scenes that caused lack of activity?
9. Time down filling vehicle up with gas that caused the lack of activity?
10 Time down running errands for the desk that caused lack of activity?
11. Time down transporting prisoners for other units that caused a lack of activity?
I could go on and on, but you get the point. All these things factor into a beat cars daily activity and the only person that should be evaluating beat car coppers are their immediate supervisors. And because of the lack of supervisors you have a different sergeant every other day so that doesn’t work either. No matter what the city names there new system its called a QUOTA and defense attorneys are going to have a field day with this. Allot of pressure to get numbers that cause a lot of bad decisions to be made, that’s all I am going to say.
DORK
"........the cause and effect is none other than a "D O G" it is worse than cancer. A "D O G" will infect the working coppers with the disease and turn them into dogs. This in turn keeps cycling itself, until a watch,district,and a department becomes infected with them......"
Amen brother.
DORKETTE
How about PDT's? We dont get any on 3rd watch. How about you Guys n Gals?? Our equipment sux, but go out there and work as if it doesnt.
How many rapid repsonse cars in your district never get a PDT?
4/16/2006 12:13:30 AM
Hi nieve! Please install a spellchecker.
4/16/2006 12:13:30 AM
Hi nieve! Please install a spellchecker.
Looks like all the one year wonders on the 011 tact team got their spots in time before this program got off the ground
Help you get to better assignments HA didnt believe his own words.
read the fisrt page of the swiping order..
benefit BOTH the member and the department.
im going to bend you over and jam it in your arse, but its for your own good.
(that brought flash backs from my alter boy days)
Donahue's comment in the Sun-Times was disgusting!
Donahue is on Daley's payroll!!
Huberman is getting exactly what he wants! To fuck every single cop in this city! First with the swipe bullshit, now this!
D O G S are made,not born.Get a clue.I'm glad I finally did some years back.
How is this great computer program going to go back thru a coppers career and check his activity and related? I guess now when our guys get 20-25-30+ years or so on the job,get old, tired, burnt out on the job, the Cool Aid drinkers at the 35th Street Cool Aid Pitcher can now say the older coppers aren't up to standards according to their latest Whiz Kid Technology. Great thinking again,kids,bosses,and FOP AssHats .
How is this great computer program going to go back thru a coppers career and check his activity and related? I guess now when our guys get 20-25-30+ years or so on the job,get old, tired, burnt out on the job, the Cool Aid drinkers at the 35th Street Cool Aid Stand can now say the older coppers aren't up to standards according to their latest Whiz Kid Technology. Great thinking again,kids,bosses,and FOP AssHats .
IN THE 60'S WHEN KENNEDY WAS THE PRESIDANT HE APPOINTED ROBERT STRANGE McNAMARA AS SEC/DEFENSE.McNAMARA AND THE "WHIZ KIDS"HE BROUGHT WITH HIM FROM FORD
MOTOR COMPANY PROCEEDED TO RUN THE MILITARY LIKE A CORPORATION AND ENDED UP DESTROYIMG THE MORALE OF THE TROOPS AND GUTTING THE MILITARY OF EQUIPEMENT THEY NEEDED AND FORCING UPON THEM EQUIPEMENT THEY DID'NT NEED OR WANT,TO CUT COSTS.I WAS IN THE SERVICE AT THAT TIME AND SAW THE RESULTS OF THESE MINDLESS DECISIONS, NOT COUNTING VIET NAM, WHICH THEY MICRO-MANAGED FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.I WAS IN VIET NAM AND WE HAD NO INPUT ON THEIR DECISIONS,NOR WOULD THEY LISTEN TO US "PEONS" WHO WERE THERE.THE POINT OF THIS, IT'S DEJA-VU ALL OVER AGAIN ONLY THIS TIME IT'S THE CPD AND THE KOOL AID PALACE.
BE AFRAID OFFICERS,BE VERY AFRAID!
I'VE BEEN THIS WAY BEFORE
JUST AN OLD BURNT OUT COPPER COUNTIN THE DAYS,STAY SAFE AND BACK EACH OTHER UP.
hey 12:13:30
never heard of the second amendment have you ?
it's the one that secures the others.
drink more cool aid, idiot !
Here's a THOUGHT for the day.
Go out, do your job, stop whining, stop beefing, know the laws and the rules (these will protect you) and common sense. This is what the enemy lives by (junkies, burglars, robbers and the "educated" bosses.
Watch out for the college boy and girlie bosses. They're stupid and dangerous (because they are stupid.
Keep your mouth shut and your ears open.
This hasn't changed in nearly four decades except there are too many girles and girlee mens on this job. This amounts to too many social workers and yellow bellied shit-heads. Most of the yellow bellies nest at 35th St. but a few are scattered throuh-out the outlying buildings.
DON'T LET THE NEW-AGE GIRLIEE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR WAY. Thats everyone from the Mayor, Chief of Staff, Superintendant and all of the Chiefs and etc. etc. etc.
to 9:46pm... you definitely are not the police... the city gave me a gun ?????? no, ray o'herron's gave me a gun, right after i forked over about $900 of my own money. i'm not complaining, just letting you know, get your facts straight before you start speaking about something which you have no idea.
I HEAR SGT TRULAR (011/3RD) WAS A BLACK PANTHER!!!!!!!!
I did hear a couple months back that the dept. was going to start a new rating system.
This will not effect Morale since there is none left. Bring back rotating again in Patrol and Det. Div. This will make coppers do something, which is more than they're not doing now. When I was rotating if you wanted to stay on a Watch you had to give them what they wanted or else you would be on midnights or bouncing all over the place. The watch did not have to pick you up. When Watch bids came out it killed any incentive to do anything if you were a sucessful bidder. You bid to a watch and then there's nothing that can happen cause you are a bid spot. As far as tracking your activity, if you were working a watch, they all had their quota's.
Some wanted more curfews than another while some wanted more parkers than another watch. This dept is , was and always will be driven by numbers.
SHIFT ROTATION KILLS!
Documentation available upon request.
DONAHUGSUCKIEY SELLS US OUT AGAIN
BEING A COP IN PATROL SUCKS!!!!!!
BEING THE POLICE SUCKS!!!!!!!
OUR HEALTHCARE SUCKS!!!!!!
OUR RESIDENCY RULE SUCKS!!!!!
OUR RAISE SUCKS!!!!!!!!
OUR MERITORIOUS PROMOTIONS SUCK!!!!
PEOPLE HATE US AND THAT SUCKS!!!!!!
NOW THEY WANT TO PROFILE US!!!
THIS JUST SUCKS AND SUCKS AND SUCKS
A2 GUN TEAM SUCKS !!!!!!!
GIRLFRIEND SUCKS!!!!!!!
WHEN DO WE GET SOMETHING GOOD RICHIE!!!!!!!!!!
OUR HEALTHCARE DEDUCTIBLE HAS DOUBLED 900 $ THAT SUCKS!!!!!
SEND KIDS TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL 15,000DOLLARS THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!
YOU COMPLAIN AND STILL DO NOTHING
THANKS FOR REALLY SUCKING IT UP FOP PUNKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOSSESS WILL JUST SCREW WITH US MORE NOW AND THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!
THIS JOB SUCKS AND IF YOU DON'T THINK SO YOU ARE EITHER NOT THE POLICE OR YOU ARE A WEASLE IN A DESK SUCKING JOB SOMEWHERE.
GET A GALLON OF KOOL-AID FOR 9:46...ON THE DOUBLE!
HE KNOWS TOO MUCH!
We will NOT tolerate the TRUTH!
9:46,
Have a nice day too.
Only the beginning ladies and gentlemen. I have it on good authority that by the end of the year, you'll be punching a time clock both in and out! Not your ID card either...... your thumb print!
Cant have anyone swipe you in then, can you?
With this new performance stuff, Seizer is gonna get some tree awards and more!
I HOPE WE START Punching IN and OUT..
It will stop these useless Tact Kids from working a 6 hour day.
looks like YOU were NEVER asked to work Tact!!!
I bet you don't even know what a Felony 101 is?
or Probable Cause?
or a Grand Jury?
or a Special Grand Jury?
or a Pre-Trial Motion Hearing?
I know your type, 1-2 hrs. down on a simple battery (paper only).
You go the other way when there's an in-progress job or man w/ a gun.
All you do is beef about anyone who does anything.
Anf I know you are the type a ASSHOLE who waits 11 days before putting in a P-Day for a Holiday Weekend in which guys have had their TD slip in for weeks and YOU pull that 'ITS IN THE CONTRACT, I BUMP THEM OUT SINCE I GOT SENIORITY
IT"S MY RIGHT" and you don't understand why your name is all over the shit house wall and no one has sympathy for you when you finally get gigged for being the absolute worthless piece of shit you can be, a useless carbon blob taking up space.
SO GO GET FUCKED!!!!!
Ditto 05:51,sounds like 11:11 is a dog.
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