023 District Follies
OK, what the hell is going on in 023? What is this "waiver" that a certain captain was trying to get PO's to sign? What was contained in the waiver that a bunch of people are alluding to about an abrogation of the contract? This sounds like quite a story - no doubt similar to that "quota" memo that was floating around that other northside district signed off on by a Watch Commander, Commander and Deputy Chief.
Where do they come up with these people that just think a legal document (a contract) is so much toilet paper? Oh wait, it must be the "merit" system!
Where do they come up with these people that just think a legal document (a contract) is so much toilet paper? Oh wait, it must be the "merit" system!
posted by SCC at 4:51 PM
121 Comments:
1ST BUT I WISH I WASNT FIRST FOR A 23RD DIST THING DUH!!!!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
What District is both the 3rd Watch Captain and the DC being called down for a MAJOR contract violation hearing?
5/10/2006 11:49:10 PM
Stashy says
Isn't that 3rd Watch in the 023rd District where the Captain tried to force all the personnel to sign a waiver of their contract rights so that he could abuse them any way he wants. Where the hell is the news coverage on this????
Hey, newsies, write about some Captain deciding he is going to renegotiate a union contract directly with the poor souls under his command. What a fucking tool!!
Or would "asshat" be more appropriate here?
Anyway, I hope they bust this guy to Lieutenant and dump his ass way the fuck far south. 006? 005?Anyone?
5/11/2006 07:33:45 AM
This guy now out ranks his father who retired as a Lieutenant. The father always wore latex gloves because he was scared of catching something. He use to wash his hands 2 to 3 time a hour. Mental must run in the family.
5/11/2006 11:58:10 AM
Isn't that the gay district? Maybe this is just the "brokeback pledge"?
I imagine its the old to do about a Lt. that made Capt. and hasn't been in a patrol for a bunch of years. Now he is micro-managing police officers instead of the do-nothings down at HQ. If its a contract issue the union might want to look into it. Typical of Capts these days, they don't know how to lead men.
There should be a requirement that in order to make capt you had to have worked in patrol the 3 years prior to being made. From there then you should also make a requirement in order to make Det. you must have made an arrest, maybe even so far to have made a non-narcotic felony arrest, in the year preceding your appointment to Det. I know its a bit steep but to me that makes sense. I know of a Det. off the first list that hadn't made an arrest in the 3 years prior to being appointed Det. I'd love for her to show up on my Robbery or Burglary pinch and tell me how its done. HA. Just had to rant a bit.
I said it on a previous post, its unfortunate to see someone who appeared to have it all together screw up. I thought Lemmer was an attorney as well. Maybe the odor of amyl-nitrate wafting out of the fruit bars and into the station took its toll.
Back in 1998 I was doing some time at Call Back. There was a chick who made Detective out of there that had been there for NINE FUCKING YEARS! Not as good as when I made Detective in 2000 and the law instructor (Mike Keehan) asked, "who doesn't know how to fill out a Felony 101"? Half the class raised their hands. The rest of us got a long lunch.
Off Topic, I apologize,
Today I was approached to purchase a ticket for a benefit for a "Copper" getting "30" for "Bullshit".
Well it may have been "Bullshit" that he is doing THIS "30" for, but from what I have been told the "Copper" has another "30 pending" coming down the pipe.
The second "30" comes from an incident where he took AKA STOLE several thousand dollars from a benefit held for the daughter of a deceased police officer, who was killed in the line of duty in 1995.
I believe the "Copper" still works in 15.
So if you are selling tickets for this JAGLIPS, Stop.
If you are considering buying a ticket for this ASSHAT, Do Not.
If he tries explaining to you what he did, you decide if you want to listen to his bullshit.
If anyone has further information, please advise.
I wish Seiser could have his way with this POS.
CORRECTION, HE WORKED IN 15 UNTIL BEING STRIPPED.
Who is the Captain?? 3rd watch would be my bet, always has been a wqatch for the worst of the worst!!
Ya, ya we know. The only standard on this job is if your in patrol you have to follow some sort of uniform/dress code and answer your 911 calls.
So what. This job is easy and there is no evaluation (I don't consider the political hacks investigating medical abusers or people who have to many C.R. numbers an evaluation, they won't investigate people that are connected). You have a medical system that is set up for abuse if a boss fucks with you. Like a certain officer who used to abuse the medical and when the bosses tried fucking with him he all of a sudden had an IOD incident and disappeared for a year(still collected a pay check though). The bosses don't fuck with him anymore. Believe me there is one of those stories in every district.
So incompetents move up. You want professionalism go to New York. I'm staying in Chicago. I only work when it amuses me or the rare times I might actually help someone who's not a shithead (very rear since it's always shitheads who want and need the police). The only other job in the world with less accountability is the fire department.
So if you wanted a professional organization the feds, the suburbs, the military, state police, corporate America, the Boy Scouts, they're all hiring.
You guys must be the same guys who are in shock that Daley has a machine.
>>Not as good as when I made Detective in 2000 and the law instructor (Mike Keehan) asked, "who doesn't know how to fill out a Felony 101"? <<
If nothing else, God bless these people for their honesty. If the PD were represented by the posters on this board, the 1/2 of the class that should have raised their hands would have been talking out of their asses and loudly boasting that they INVENTED Felony 101!
Hats Off to 6:00:57 . Couuld not agree more. Do what you have to do and nothing more unless it amuses you or if you are a court whore. No Offense to coppers who use court as a second job. been there ,done that. Just remember this is a job not a calling from God. Everyone be safe.
if p.o. walter wrote a dui to a coppers family member, or even a gold star family member, it was probably deserved. i personally don't write dui's, but it is a necessary task. sometimes when police or their family members get stopped for possible dui, are they discrete about it ?? no, they make it a point to holler," my (take your pick) is the police and you can't do this. what is the p.o. supposed to do ? why should the policeman or police woman have to take some drunken fool's abuse in front of many civilian non-police affiliated persons who are witnessing the whole situation unfold? not to dismiss the point that the arrestee had a family member killed, if he was this night and has a history of getting bombed and acting like a complete asshole and using his brothers name to get out of trouble, shame on him. but, i'm sure that anyone reading this post was not there to see his actions, so how can you judge the p.o. on his actions without hearing all of the facts. if you are the police or the family of the police, keep your mouth shut and show a little respect. you'd be surprised how far that goes. to the guy that said to tell p.o. walter to his face, you are correct. this man is bigger than many pro athletes, but fortunately for the anonymous guy that wants to slam him, if you did get the balls to sign your name to your post, i'm sure as a favor, he would beat you into unconsiousness quickly so the rest won't hurt as bad. but seriously, i know p.o. walter. and he wouldn't do anything like is posted here unless he was given no other choice. just ask the sergeant from 023 who got alot less than what he deserved when stopped by p.o. walter. anyone can slam another copper anonymously for what they feel is a sandbag job, but more times than not, when all of the facts are heard, the police were left with no other option. be safe all. as for not backing someone else up on a stop... how ignorant are you ? we are the only ones who will protect each other. all of us have backed up p.o.'s who were supposedly not worth a lick, but we all have families to go home to. just stop and wait if you don't want to get out of the car, but we can't get to the point to where we don't back each other up...dickhead. to the poster at 11:44 p.m. if you are so bad, don't ask the guys from 019 what they are gonna do...go take care of business with him on your own. thought so, pussy.
5/11/2006 06:20:57 PM
023 is THE most UNIQUE police district not only in CHICAGO, but the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Lemur is as trying to prove himself as "brilliant" as Sobcyk (that genius responsible for the mass arrests/lawsuits at the Water Tower in 2003.) Easy to slam the rank and file but the new "cream of the crop" proves themselves more incompetent every year as well
Off the topic a little but Lts. and detectives are in training right now. When is the sergeant's next class starting??Any info?
who is this captain in 023 who is starting to undermind union contract issues? just name the asshole.
I signed the wavier and now I am the Broadway footguy. I figure giving up my contract rights for this sweet gig was a fair trade.
Sgt's List is out - late evening posting - Here are the names............
P.O. Cant wait
p.o. Now Isitout
p.o. How aboutnow
p.o. Oh CantTakethewait
and finally
p.o. IhaveitsoBad Icantwait
When it comes out it does - does it really matter? You don't get paid till you are sworn in. Or are you one of these tough guys who is too good to be a blue shirt and deserve so much more?
Sobczyk...the former tact sgt in 14 who struck and killed a sweet little old lady who had the audacity to step off the curb in front of his 80 mph unmarked car while he was raceing to a call with a SUSPENDED LICENSE!!! HE TOOK TIME FOR THAT AND SO DID THE TACT LT (DURBACK) because it was right after uniform inspection. Now he's a big shot
does anyone have any actual info on this 023 thing? i would love to know its true and burn the damn bosses there.
07:46........didn't know that, but it's not surprising. I mean, since when does integrity, professionalism, experience, and character (as opposed to race, gender, family connections, political clout, etc.) factor into promotion and assignment, particularly with the exempts? Just wondering...when the dept. posts/lists their managers/personnel on their website, wouldn't it be a good idea to also list their connection/clout, i.e., Dept. Supt. Joe Blow, xxx years with the CPD, P.O. here, Det. there, etc., cousin of so and so, married to so and so, member of the xxth ward organization, sponsored by City Hall, "merit" this or that (you gotta love that merit label, that might qualify as the scam of all time).....
Tell us more about these new exempts and their misdeeds!!! The public, and the still un-initiated on this job deserve to know the whole stories. You know the real problem? There aren't anymore hero's left in the exempt ranks. Peace time military, whore's, connected Irish that should be in the penitentery, a bone thrown to a storefront preachers nephew. Daleys handpicks. Try this in a white town-it couldn't happen. Keep voting for democrats boys!
ATTENTION ALL YOUNG P/O'S, Nobody can have you sign a waiver of any part or section of the contract. This little trick was tried before and failed, thank God. You cannot sign away your rights or try to only abide by parts of the contract, or have only certain units work for straight time, etc.
A certain Sgt. tried that in Loop Traffic back in 1991 and had his ass chewed away. He wanted all the more senior officers to sign waivers so that everyone would get a turn to work overtime when details came up and avoid the seniority list where they start at the top every time as per the contract.
He even tried to rig the FOP unit rep election and failed.
Thank you Sheila Burke (past FOP secretary) for the Sgt. Santa Letter in which the same Sgt. tried to let everyone work O.T. but one P/O who the Sgt. did not like. P/O filed a grievance, and after several months was awarded quite a tidy sum of hours that he did not even have to work for.
And again the same Sgt. had a sexual harrassment suit filed against him and was finally caught by IAD doing exactly what he was accused of and was let off easy (resign or get fired and maybe lose your pension and go to jail).
He retired the next day.
But all of his superiors thought he was a Stellar Leader, until he got caught.
So what does all this mean?
You cannot pick the parts of the contract that you want to work under or change the terms or language to fit your personal need. It may not be the best contract but it's a hell of a lot better than if the City ran it with a hearty handshake!
P.S. Hey FootMan, I hope you got a good Deal (or no deal) cause someone might take it away from you, with more seniority!
what the hell happened in 023?
You know what amazes me? Coppers on this job getting sexual harassment beefs. Who the hell are they sexually harassing? Most broads coming on this job look like Miss Piggy, are shaped like Runt in Chicken Little, or are diesel dikes who would kick my ass if they read this!!! No Sandra Bullocks need apply!
You guys in 023 want to straighten that watch out? Bring back "Bazookas". Nothing like a flat belly, ass like two softballs, fake titties, and more facial hair than a mountain goat to straighten out a W.C. Well, it straightened out something on Ricky.
8:59
You're right. That sexual harassment thing is confusing
Actually, 8:59 seems to have sexual harassment down pretty good.
Kevin Graham is our Unit Rep. He sucks. He is to worried about running for political office, instead of being worried about the troops. I am sorry I voted for him in the last election. I made a mistake. It will not happen again. He sucks Donahue and Fallon Balls.
that waiver of contract rights was done in the horsey unit way back when. and fop did nothing
To post 6:24 YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG AND MISINFORMED!!!
tHE SGT. YOU ARE REFERRING TO WAS STOPPPED SOME YRS BACK AND IDENTIFIED HIMSELF (STAR,ID) AND INFORMED HIM (WALTERS) THAT HE WAS RUNNING LATE FOR ROLL CALL. EVEN TOLD HIM HE WORKED023 (SAME ZONE AS 019). HE GETS IN HIS CAR AND HEADS TO WORK. WHAT DOES WALTERS DO? HE GETS ON THE AIR , CALLS IN A CHASE OF A POSSIBLE POLICE OFFICER W/B IRVING PK. I THINK THE STERIODS HE IS TAKING (PCS ANYONE) HAS MESSED HIM UP IN THE HEAD.
to 11:01 w/b irving would be on his way home, not to work. if i was misinformed...tim lied to me. nice try. but, if any copper was stopped while running late for work, a simple apology and he's on his way. but not this sergeant, he has the "i'm a sgt. and you can't touch me...do you have any idea who i am and who i know." threaten the police with your power ??? what do you expect?
someone needs to videotape this walter guy doing these traffic stops in 017 when should be in 019. And he should read the rules and regulations about hiding to make a mover.. watch your back walter sr.
His name is Thomas J. Lemmer former Acting Commander of Research and Development.
He was sooooo hated there but had too much juice to dump they promoted him out of R&D to Captain 3rd Watch 023. He sits at his desk in the WC office w/ 2 cell phones, 1 personal laptop, Desk Computer PC and PDT going at the same time. He actually has created an in district rating system he utilizes to determine officers days off for Comp Time, BFD etc...and work assignments. He has actually denied officers Time Due but tells them if they use a BFD or personal day they can have off (manpower not being an issue). He walks around the station quoting military leaders regarding leadership and ending his Roll Calls with "ATTACK!!!"
He tried to get an officer put into the Behavioral Alert System for too much time off and on the Medical for the past year. He wrote a request for this officer to be placed into the Behavioral Alert System and wanted a Lieutenant to write a To/From concurring w/ his opinion. This Lieutenant wrote a To/From but DID NOT CONCUR w/ Lemmer. Capt. Lemmer went nuts, and demanded to know why? When the Lieutenant said that the officer was already in treatment for the past month for an ongoing terminal ailment Lemmer shrunk to the size of a mouse. When one officers family member died in a foriegn country, this officer wanted DIF upon the body re-entering the States, but this would take up to a week due to Customs and all the bureaucracy. Lemmer denied this officer DIF because the Contract says it starts when the death occurs even though this coppers relative was 10,000 miles away.. This officer had to use 4 days of Comp time to attend the Wake , Funeral etc....
Now Lemmer has his NEW NAZI Sgt.'s on third Watch to promote his vision of effieciency. You should have seen him the other day when Vacancies were announced the day prior. They ran out of PAR Forms. I can't wait to bid the fuck out.
Heard Sgt. White want's his team to sign a drinking contract. All those on his team must drink Miller lite, and eat burrito's after hour's. Any truth to this?
I sit corrected it was E/B Irving.
All I can say is Tim lied to you.
If I identify myself as a PO, SGT, or whatever and relate that I'M late for work and I work in a bordering district on the same Zone and I'M running late now, what the fuck? Is this guy supposed to get on his knees and grovel and plead for mercy?
You defend this guy like you love him or something. " Hey I work in 023/019/018 I'm running late for roll call here's my star and ID? See you later"
What the fuck is wrong with that?
So call in a car chase of a supposed police impersonator? Walters tried to fuck this guy by middling him on the air. You think this is OK?
If you do your a lamer fuck than him.
Northside district copper's screwing fellow copper's, geez what a surprise.
"Sgt. White's drinking contract", is wrong, it's not miller lite, its Guiness. Get your facts straight recruit!
You must sign an agreement to buy him at least 10 Guiness, and watch him shit his pant's.
The Burrito thing is absolute
bullshit!
Pure bullshit. He has never, ever required anyone to eat a burrito!
Get out of here you rumor punk!
6:20
right on, I couldnt agree with ya more there.
Sgt. White is such a punk he made me sign a contract that I had to work the man hole for free...in my underware! WTF? I called the union, and got a busy signal. I called the Inspector General's office, and was immidately connected to empire carpet's. I then called the sun times,and they told me to call my union.
Stay away from this guy, he's heavier than this Captain! And he ain't even a lawyer!
I was in 007 when LAMER (Lemmer) became a LT. He was a total dork asshole and belongs hidden behind some desk, out of the way of the working police (Hence R&D perfect). My partner and I had Night Narcotics court and came in late after a long bullshit case. The pussy didn't believe we just left and sent his bitch sergeant (Forget his name, but another brand new asshole) and we more or less told him to get fucked, drove into 007 and told him to get on the horn and see when we signed out.. that if he had a problem he needed to talk to us not beat around the bush with his spaz messenger. He pussied out and said he was "just joking". He a total stroke and I feel for all the guys/galls/"things"(It is 23) that work for that stroke.
41 comments and no one has yet said what the fuck is going on.
So, does anyone from 023 know what this thread is all about?
Specifics would help, thanks!
Would someone please give the captain specifics so that he knows how to make a defense here...I want to hear it!!
I love it when housemouses and clout assholes who have never worked the streets try to act tough. ATTACK!! LMAO
Three Points...
1. The 11:52 Lemmer post is true. Lemmer is almost as bad as D.C Ralphie "Skeletor" Price (016 now) was when he was 1st watch Capt. in 023. They are both responsible for destroying two great watches. Total jerks on a power trips. Lemmer even tried to make Tact/Gang come to his roll call and stand inspection.
2. I was working the night that Sgt. Gonzalcockface (who is bipolar himself) was stopped. Yes, he was late for work. Yes, the 019 copper over reacted and called a chase over the air. Sgt. Gonzalcockface was/is a jerk. Even faked a heart attack when he got detailed (reverse seniority) after going off on the WC. All that said the 019 copper is an even bigger tool with an even bigger ego.
Lastly, as stupid as it can get in 023 we still have hot Lincoln Park trixies to look at, shitheads to arrest in Uptown, Fags to laugh at on Halsted, 5 miles of beautiful lakefront and great restaurants to eat free at.
Next time you tough "sout-siders" and west-side rangers want to hate on us, remember a bad day in 023 is better than a good day in 002,003,004,005,006,007,008,009,0010,011,015,021,025...plus we all gets paid the same.
There was a greek copper in 16 (1st watch) who was like this Walters.
He suffered serious injuries when he was broadsided by a drunken polack at Belmont/Central.
No tears were shed.
What goes around comes around.
This Walters is working in a do nothing district. I would like him to try and pull that pussy shit in one of the fast districts. And I don't care how big he is.
Post 3:15 VERY WELL SAID!!!!!
Why couldn't Walters give the guy a ride home or call for a car to do it? I don't think anyone would have objected.
Danny O'Connor was very close to his brother Jimmy, who was killed in the line of duty on 16SEP1995 at 4100 N. Marine Dr. while encountering an armed offender.
Almost every yr since his brother was gunned down in the LINE OF DUTY Danny would come down to 023 after drinking, and would look for his brother Jimmy. I remember one time he walked into the 23rd District Station and was asking for Jimmy, trying to find him. iT WAS ALWAYS DIFFICULT TELLING HIM JIMMY ISN'T HERE ANY MORE.
IT WAS VERY SAD. Every time he was out looking for his brother JIMMY around the end of August and sometimes around St. Jude we would get him home, no questions asked. Some of the coppers who came on the job and worked w/ JIMMY even cried with Danny on these occassions. Even the coppers who didn't know or work with JIMMY did the right thing.
I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IS GOING THROUGH THE HEAD OF A CHICAGO COPPER WHO DUI'S A GOLDSTAR FAMILY MEMBER, BROTHER OF AN OFFICER KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY, AND BROTHER OF A LINCOLNWOOD COPPER
2 DAYS BEFORE ST. JUDE?
THIS MAKES ME ASHAMED TO BE A CHICAGO POLICE OFFICER!!!
Being dui+ being a jag-off when stopped=no pass from this copper. fuck these idiots, I dont care who they are related too. Be a little responsible and have some respect when you(the drunk asshole)and are stopped and then maybe you'll get a pass. Oh, by the way these goofs are the ones responsible for more car accident deaths than anyone else. Wake up!
Now don't get mad my comments are not in defensive or attack of either. If any of the post are legit. It sounds like this young man needs serious help, detox. I understand the grief of the GoldStar family as well as our own grief. Add the respect we should all show for them.
The question remains at what point do you cease enabling someone that is ill? Who may also be on their way to being a danger to themselves and other's in light of operating an automobile? How long do you take care of them and their addiction? Many of us know ways around the DUI and there are those that may have have taken a different route. That's a personal dicision on how your willing to handle at the momemt. Whether we think it's right or wrong.
Responsibility has to lie with this young man in getting help. the sooner the better. This is not the old days. We have fellow officers that were good cops in jail because of bad outcomes with drinking and driving. Those are heart breaking tragedies as well.
Northside copper mentality brother. Ya, I know, not all but many.
Take a look at copswritingcops.com for posts from other cowardly coppers who think traffic enforcement of coppers is a prestigious move.
Fucking pussies.
Anonymous said...
Being dui+ being a jag-off when stopped=no pass from this copper. fuck these idiots, I dont care who they are related too. Be a little responsible and have some respect when you(the drunk asshole)and are stopped and then maybe you'll get a pass. Oh, by the way these goofs are the ones responsible for more car accident deaths than anyone else. Wake up!
5/12/2006 08:38:15 AM
Ask Jason
Casper, 10 years for DUI at Stateville.
I will chime in on that Piece Of Shit Walter!!!!!! I work in 019. He pulled me over once on my way to work. Said I didn't come to a complete stop at the redlight. I was in uniform to work the lockup. He gave me a hard time told me he didn't know me and I better watch it next time. Fuck Him!!!! He brought in a DUI later that night and didn't even aplogize for treating me like a JO.
For those of you who don't know this real life version of Robocop. These are his actual words on the radio, every day. "Traffic stop 2800 W. Irving (out of the dist as usual) I'm good on my own". One day he will call a 10-1. I will drive by with lights and siren on. I will then yell to whoever is kicking his ass to hit him again then lend the street justice providers my asp!!!
Before he was the DUI king and actually answered radio calls he always said after getting his job that he didn't want backup. If you rode on his job because you were right there he gave you hard time when he showed and basically assaulted you. This guy is king of the dickheads. U can't confront him either. He won't do shit except follow you around hoping you go to a tavern so he can DUI when you leave. He stated several times that he wanted to DUI a Sgt who was on the 3rd and is now on TACT.
Those who defend this JO, FU!!! I'm one of many from CPD who have been treated with no respect by Mr. Personality!!!!
Anonymous said...
You know what amazes me? Coppers on this job getting sexual harassment beefs. Who the hell are they sexually harassing? Most broads coming on this job look like Miss Piggy, are shaped like Runt in Chicken Little, or are diesel dikes who would kick my ass if they read this!!! No Sandra Bullocks need apply!
5/11/2006 08:59:15 PM
------------
Obviously, you are just a schmuck that is stuck in a District. swing by Homan or 35th, u'll see some better looking women. You see, the bosses don't let loosers like you even look at them!
Anonymous said...
You know what amazes me? Coppers on this job getting sexual harassment beefs. Who the hell are they sexually harassing? Most broads coming on this job look like Miss Piggy, are shaped like Runt in Chicken Little, or are diesel dikes who would kick my ass if they read this!!! No Sandra Bullocks need apply!
5/11/2006 08:59:15 PM
must make you feel like you haven't left home! Especially with all of these manly pieces of art wobbling around, squeezing in and out of their squad cars
I think some of you are missing the point. What ever happened to an officer's discretion. Did Walters have to DUI Danny?
NO!!!
He easily could have made sure he got home OK.
This is what I think the point being overlooked is. Sure there are some coppers who fucked up.
No one here is saying let a blind drunk drive home. I for one have on numerous times taken the keys from drunken coworkers and driven them home. I have stopped drunken coppers and have driven them home or ensured they got a ride home, even when they were mean drunk.
I'd like to "SWING" by 35th St. and see Monique Bond in Leather and fishnets on all fours wearing 8 inch spike heals biting a leather whip panting real real hard.
Yea Baby!!!!!
I mean "heels"
Yea Baby!!!!!!!
There have always been copper's that write other coppers, their family members, Doctors, nurses, etc. Should you show courtesy? I think so but we have knuckle heads out there, that are just police and have no loyalty to anyone. We can call them misfits. As an example I have been pulled over by the state and also in Texas the cars had camera's, did they write no and it was appreciated. I have also been pulled over as has my family members and treated with great disrespect. There are as#holes across the board.
09:51
Not missing your point, and your outlook towards other coppers makes you a prince. Thank you
Hey how bout when Lemmer dumped the Traffic guy who wrote 10-16 movers a day.
Why you ask?
Cause he fell offa curb and fucked up his leg, so Lemmer, who HATES anyone on the Medical or IOD dumps the guy.
And his new traffic guy he refused DIF cause his relativwe died overseas and wouldn't be coming home for 7 days.
Thanks Phil for your personal pick.
Yes Lemmer repeats this at Roll Call all the time and ends with "ATTACK!!!"
I'm bidding to days.
It don't make me a prince.
If we don't help each other who we gonna call, GHOSTBUSTERS?
To 5/12/2006 09:44:25 AM,
By the way it's "losers" you no spellin' minority at 35th St.!
I work in 019 and will say this about P.O. Walter. He is a Robocop and not a friendly guy. His whole agenda is to get as much OT as possible. He could care less about taking drunks off the road. He thinks his shit doesn't stink. He thinks the bosses owe him because he writes over 200 DUIs a year.
One of the earlier posters was a little extreme on this guy. I will just say this. I've worked in 019 for over 8 years. I've never seen or heard of P.O. Walter ever backup his fellow officer!!! Thats says more to me about him than anything else. Shame on him!!!!!
Now to be on topic. Working on the same zone as 023 I have to wonder, how do you guys keep getting the nutball boses? They get the pleasure of working in a slow dist without a whole lot do, yet mess with the P.O.s. I'm all for going after the do nothings. Violating the contract is another story. I remember when you had Capt Price on 1st watch, what a jerk!!!! U guys got rid of him, time to do what you did last time.
SO WHAT THE FUCK DID THE CONTRACT SAY ??
"Danny would come down to 023 after drinking, and would look for his brother Jimmy", his brother's been DEAD for 10 fucking years and he's still looking for him after drinking as 5/12/2006 07:13:34 AM says?? HOLY FUCK, this guy must be a major fuckin' alcoholic and I sure AM GLAD Walters locked him up!! Maybe he'll get some help before he broadsides me while I'm working (or my family) while he's shitfaced!!!!
It sounds like he needs help coping with the loss of his brother and he obviously turned to the bottle as a crutch, he does need help, not a dui....
Danny is a drunken lout.
Kudos to Walters for doing his job and saving someone else's life from getting crashed into by this shitfaced moron.
saving someone's life in 019?
the next thing will be 019 is filled with workers.
keep drinking the koolaid, farva.
Anonymous said...
TO: Phil Cline
FROM: Captain Thomas Lemmer 023
SUBJECT: 3rd Watch Update
Supt. Cline since you appointed me to advance your vision for the CPD I am giving you a semi-annual update on Watch Operations here in the 023rd District. The following are the High points since my arrival for Command in Aug2005.
1. I have taken a Watch that had the highest seniority for all 3rd Watches city wide and lowered it vastly. I foresee utilizing reverse seniority to fill vacancies in the coming months.
2. I have driven off almost 10 officers from 3rd Watch and the District altogether.
3. I have implemented a dress code for Tact/Gang teams.
4. All Tact/Gang Teams MUST report to me upon their arrival for their tour and STAND INSPECTION at all MY roll calls.
5. I utilize SGT.'s to conduct MEDICAL checks on 23rd District personnell regardless of residence and have them report to me the nature of these so called ailments these officers suffer from.
6. I have increased the number of SPARS and SUSPENSION DAYS given at the District level.
7. I was almost successful at getting an officer into the Behavior Alert System for Medical Abuse but my Lieutenant would not concur w/ me since this officer turned out to be seriously ill.
8. I have almost completed all those books you recommended to me on LEADERSHIP skills.
9. I am being called down along with the DC to a Grievence Hearing regarding a Matrix I initiated to combat chronic crime conditions in the 23rd District.
10. There are currently 5-8 officers on 3rd Watch who are bidding out of the District since openings were announced last week.
11. I have also instituted a Rating System that I use in the District for 3rd Watch Personnell.
I will report back to you a synopsis of my first yrs. successes in about 6 mths. I just want to remind those of you that I am a VERY smart man. One more thing, I don't understand why everyone around the station are calling me Captain of the Titanic?
Didn't that ship sink?
no one, not a person has yet confirmed the original post. i think its just anger at lemmer, who deserves it.
Farva--LMAO
I want a liter of cola.
Ya there are about 10 good looking girls on this job. I've been to Homan Square and 35th st and if they have a lot of good looking women there then the bosses are keeping them chained up in their closet. If you think the women on this job are good looking then you are my hero. You are a real man. You can be married to Rosean Barr and be happy as fuck. I watched 'Shallow Hal' and tried to get hypnotized and I still don't find the women on this attractive. (Maybe 1 out of 50). Someone help me. How do you do it?
Danny is a drunken lout.
Kudos to Walters for doing his job and saving someone else's life from getting crashed into by this shitfaced moron.
You are a class a jagoff! when you have lost a loved one in the manner of Danny O'Connor, then you can tell the rest of us who haven't how to cope; his brother was his best friend who lost his life chasing a purse snatcher in 023,I know a do-nothing district, Jimmy was a class act who missed by many of us who knew him, I can't even imagine how Danny feels and the manner in which he choses to cope shows he needs help and support, not dui's and bullshit posts on this blog......
How do you think P.O. Michael Gordon's family deals with his death? The P.O. that wrote Danny O'Connor a dui did him a favor. The next time could be fatal with reckless homicide charges. Hopefully this becomes a wake up call to get some help if that's what he needs.
5:08 If you want to see good looking women on the job come to 005 on midnights. We have nothing but stars. PO's and Sgts.
in regards to P.O. Walter' I worked Traffic for a number of years . Drunken coppers Abound !!!. Never wrote one of them . Of course they acted like Assholes, They were drunk!!Tried to take care of them any way I could. JUst remember There ,But for the Grace of God,Go I.
Sorry Boys & Girls. After 30 + years nevewr wrote a copper, relative, girlfriend, boyfriend, fireman or city worker. Took a lotta shit but I can look at myself in the mirror. If ya don't like it Go Fuck yourselves. Yeah I took drunken coppers home and gave them to their spouse. Worse punnishment they could have got. Yeah it was different times. All we have is each other. Some day you'll figure it out-----Come on saps late the hate begin.....
Same here, 27 yrs and never wrote a copper. Took many home. We got to take care of each other no one else will.
So you took care of coppers 'eh? How many letters have you written, or visits have you made to ex-P.O.s Casper or Krass who are in prison for reckless HOMICIDE while dui. I've also let coppers off who were dui, but it's nothing to be proud of. We're not doing them a favor.
TO: 7:45 Read the post stroke I said I took them home-----
I have worked out there over 10 years and written a lot of traffic to those that deserved it. BUT I have NEVER written any P.O. or their wife or girlfriend or their families or a nurse or a doctor that can save lives like we do. There is always PLAN B....you get the person a ride home and you pull the COIL wire and leave the keys at the desk. THAT'S HOW I HAVE DONE IT. WE NEED EACH OTHER..BUT every district has a traffic NATZI..and that's a sad fact.
I left 023 6 years ago, 1st and 3rd watches were great good bosses and POs. We had fun Good parties and people got the job done. Not to mention great places to eat and the views (women)in the summer were unbeleivable. No one throughs a Holloween parade like north halsted. I am so sorry to hear it has gone down hill.
IF YOUR DRIVING HOME DRUNK, JUST OBEY THE TRAFFIC RULES....YOUR NOT GONNA GET PULLED OVER IF YOUR GOING THE SPEED LIMIT (THAT'S IF YOUR NOT ALL OVER THE ROAD) BUT IF YOUR RACING DOWN THE STREET AT 70+ MILES AN HOUR AND TREATING RED LIGHTS LIKE A STOP SIGN....YOUR LOOKING FOR DISASTER.....BELIEVE ME IT'S NO FUN BEING ON THE SCENE OF A DUI ACCIDENT FATALITY...AND THE OFFENEDER IS A FELLOW COP....YOU OWE IT TO YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILIES TO GET HOME SAFE FROM WORK...SAME RULES APPLY WHEN YOUR HAVING A GOOD TIME....BE CAREFUL AND WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER...STAY SAFE
8:39:24,I worked in thet unit in the late 90,s. Worked for that same Jagoff SGT.He chased out 20 P.O's in 5 YRS. All the bosses thought he was great. Ifought all his beefs against me and won everything. the woman he victimized was a friend of mine and he got what he deserved.
023 used to be a "gem". The lakefront is fantastic. Great resturants. Not many problems UNTIL Lemmer came. I have parted my ways with 023 and do miss it there. We had great times but with a J.O. like Lemmer....well it's going to hell now. He is a moron and yes, he does say "ATTACK" after roll call is done. A real sicko. But then ya have a C/O that emails all of his W/C's instead of talking face to face and won't even acknowledge a P.O. unless he knows them. What a shame that is happening there. "WAS" a great district to work in.
Sorry to hear 023 is going down the tubes. Does that cute, grey haired guy (R.E.) still work on the wagon on 3rd watch?
The only thing good coming out of the fucking northside is a southbound train
I remeber Lemmer as a Tact dude in 009th District with his Mel Gibson "Riggs" cowboy boots. What a fucking tool then and from what I'm reading a fucking tool now.
LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!!!!!!
Mmmmmmmm! Mel Gibson...until he lost his mind.
Hey, you guys are always going on about the hot females on this this job. How about naming some of the smokin' males or telling where we straight, in shape, good looking female can go for a look. And leave the A/2 gun team out of this since I'm a northsider.
I love me some eye candy....
HEY KEEP AN EYE ON THE TRANSFER ORDER WATCH HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BIDDING OUT OF 023 I WILL BE LEAVING SOON WELCOME BACK CRIME FIGHTERS ATTACK NO MORE BITCHES IM OUT OF THIS MOTHER
Definitely check out Tim O'Grady in 023. He is bootylicious.
We need Seiser to rescue 023!
Heres my question about this Walters fellow. Forget for a moment about him DUI'ing this Danny O'Connor. That issue can be debated forever. Both sides in that debate have valid points. My problem is, what about this other stuff that he does. Things like hiding out, not backing up other coppers, arrogance, going out of his way to write other coppers for the simplest violation etc., etc. He sounds like a real POS. So what I want to know is, what are the other Officers in 019 that work with him doing about him? Has he been ostracized as he should be, has he been told in no uncertain terms that until he gets his act together he will remain an outcast and can expect absolutely NO help on anything should the occasion ever arise? Is he allowed to go out with the boys after work for a few cold ones?
And what are the bosses doing about him? Is he working a special traffic or DUI car? Why isn't the Capt. dumping him???? Are the Sgts. and Lts. denying him time due whenever the can. You know, like when he asks for those "two hours on the end"? And if he is on a "special car", is he working a full eight hours like everybody else or is he ducking out early? When he gets a beef, are the Sgts., rather than going out of the way to unfound it as most of us do, doing the exact opposite and going out of the way to sustain it?
This guy obviously has no respect for himself, his co-workers, the Department and most importantly, the uniform that we all wear. He should be dealt with accordingly. There are alot of ways to skin a cat. Somebody better start doing it. And soon!
He won't get dumped off the traffic car because I'm sure he carries the watch with movers. The Bosses don't give a shit if nobody likes him or what he does, as long as he brings in those movers.
Does he sit on Rockwell (I think that's the street by the river) and Irving? I used to work with a guy in 019 who like that spot. Ionihe
Then maybe the watch should start writing more movers. Make him less valuable. One of the many ways to skin a cat.
Danny is a drunken lout.
Kudos to Walters for doing his job and saving someone else's life from getting crashed into by this shitfaced moron.
THANK YOU!!! Not everyone on this blog is a drunken asshole just like Danny.....Get over it, it was 10 years ago and you are still crying in the case of beer you put away before driving and acting like an asshole??
Hey Sgt. Saunders, you a fucking idiot..........you don't even know this guy Waletrs, but you are gonna tell the coppers in 019 what to do??
023 is a GREAT place to work! There is no place like it, with HOT women BARS, great restuarants, Wrigley field!! It is really a shame to hear the bullshit that is going on there.
In the last 18 years I have seen some bad bosses here in Town Hall come and go. Yes, Yes Lenti is a dick wart, but he went away. Some bad bosses never leave. Pat Logan is a perfect example of a shitty drunk Irish boss that we just can't get rid of.
The only thing good about Logan is when his "tick" kicks in and he rolls his eyes back and licks his lips uncontrollably. He does not even realize it.
It happens every time he tries to fuck over a P.O. or when he smells gay penis, which in 023 is quite often.
Somebody has to tell them what to do because it's obvious that what they've been doing ain't cutting it.
Nimrod.
One more thing. Learn how to spell
Nimrod.
Sgt. Saunders is a fucking idiot, I sure hope noone is dumb enough to listen to him!!
I was thinking of bidding in to 023 from the westside. What watch should I try for?? What bosses should I beware of?? Please advise.
ALL OF US NEED A DRINK AFTER WORK , I CAN'T WAIT!!
Waletrs, is that you at 7:29:03?
Your still a Nimrod!
Sgt. Saunders is a fucking idiot, he's probably really a LT or Captain, trying to look smarter pretending to be a Sergeant!!!
If even half of what has been said about the watch commander in 023 is true, a prompt psychological evaluation is in order.
At this point, you can not rule out paranoid schizophrenia or borderline psychopathy with delusions of grandeur.
As a subordinate, you would be remiss if you neglected to report his deviant behavior for psychotherapy and proper medication. Otherwise, his condition could deteriorate even further into a full-blown psychotic state.
He may well be crying out for help.
I may be a Captain or a Lt. or a Sgt. or maybe even a Detective but you will never know. But whatever I may be, you will still be a NIMROD in a blue shirt pushing a beat car.Thats all you will ever be because NIMRODS such as yourself are incapable of becoming anything other than that. And once again, LEARN HOW TO SPELL! And STOP DUI'ing COPPERS!
Nimrod
I worked in 19 for 12 years and Walter is a piece of shit!!!! Never backs up coppers, I mean never. He'll get what he deserves one day.
When Lemmer was down here at R & D all he wanted was advancement. I remember asking him if he ever wanted to be or would have liked to have been Detective, his reply "NO WAY, it's a dead end job."
I would like to personally thank Supt Cline for promoting this IDIOT out of here, thank you very much, sorry 023 but better you than us.
WEll guess what? Now lemmer is "forbiding" anyone to read the blog at work. What an asshole. For someone who looks so much like steve buscemi you'd think he would be able to take some crap for the way he is. I mean MY GOD he is more concerned with this blog than with taking care of his grill. We do have a crappy dental plan, but come on, you make captains pay! You, my friend, are an extreme asshole and everyone hates you. I hope that as you read this you remember that it's"down the road not across the street". I hate to wish anything bad on anyone but i hope you come down with some terrible disease that makes you leave the job. Anyway, for a person who is such a jagoff you'd better be careful that your wife doesn't get a call concerning the other lady in your life. You forget that we have 16 hours outside of work to get even with you. Some of us just might use it.
Drive drunk once, maybe you can have a pass, drive drunk twice....too bad for you.
His brother died in the line of duty, and that's a sad state of affairs. I lost a brother and I know how it feels. But it sure sounds like this guy Danny needs to grow up.
So he gets a lifetime pass and can drive shitfaced because his brother was killed? I don't think so. Walters did the right thing. Maybe now when he gets shitfaced he'll do it on his backporch or in his own home. Drive drunk you're only pushing your luck. Ask Casper or Krass, or Delucia....and the names go on. Maybe one day it will stop, but not in my lifetime, and especially with so many apologists with stars.
so after 119 postings i still havent seen anything about the "contract"
Sgt. Saunders is GAY and proud of it!! I hope that guy in 019 dui's him too............
Sgt. Saunders is GAY and proud of it!! I hope that guy in 019 dui's him too............
Sgt. Saunders is GAY and proud of it!! I hope that guy in 019 dui's him too............
I never wrote a DUI to anyone
I've written tons of DUI's but never to a copper. Always took them home, sometimes even if they didn't want to go home! But I was lucky, never had one involved in a serious accident. When that happens, there's not much you can do about it.
Family members? I take that on a case by case basis. Obviously if there is a bad accident, you're hands are pretty much tied. Otherwise, it depends on his/her attitude, what they were doing to draw their attention to me, his/her attitude, was it a citizen's complaint with citizen on hand, and finally his/her attitude.
I've taken them home, and locked up a few. Without knowing all the facts I wouldn't rush to judgement. Being a family member is NOT an automatic pass, it depends on the circumstances. If you think it is, you obviously haven't had it stuck up your ass (like I have) for helping someone out.
My 2ยข
<< Home