Tuesday, May 09, 2006

Flashback - Profiling

Long time readers of the blog will remember back in July, during the height of the reverend Meeks incident, we wrote a large number of threads about the entire incident taking everyone and their brother to task (go to our July archives, start around the 15th and scroll upwards). We also saw that the mayor is home from his little Middle East jaunt and we hope he brought us some new and wondrous policing ideas as he has on so many of his other forays (the better to call it "business" and get the taxpayers to pay for it). You will recall that the camera idea was picked up on trips to Europe, was it not?

Here's a little policing tip we hope the mayor introduces in the coming weeks or months. We referenced it way back on 02 August 05 in a post we titled "A dirty little secret." It is perhaps the DIRTIEST little secret in all of policing:

Profiling Works

Let's pause for a moment to let the screams from our more liberal minded readers die down for a bit. Are they done yet? We still hear some dogs barking. There we go. Take a breath people. Here's some more sacrilege - Profiling has ALWAYS worked. In it's simplest form, it's a matter of seeing something that doesn't fit the surroundings. And reality being what it is, race sometimes comes into it. Chicago is still among the most segregated cities in the nation. Therefore, it stands to reason that a white guy in a black neighborhood MIGHT be there to buy drugs. A black guy in a hispanic part of town MIGHT be there to do garage burglaries. A hispanic guy in a white neighborhood MIGHT be there to do a drive by. Your good coppers - your truly great street guys - can go beyond the initial visual anomaly and make some truly spectacular arrests.
  • Run the plate - is it from the neighborhood? Is it hot? Is it on the right type of car?
  • Visual clues - is the subject a "fit" for the area? Financially? Is he/she wearing expensive clothes in a rundown part of town? Are they carrying a pillowcase in an alley?
  • Physical appearances - Hypes? Health nuts? Holding their side? Eyeballing everyone else? Eyeballing nothing at all?
The list goes on and on, but what cops should be looking for is the "totality of the circumstances" which as we all should know, is a polite way of saying "profiling." NOT RACIAL PROFILING. Criminal profiling. Even some civilians can do it - but WE are supposed to do it. Being able to put 2 and 2 together has led to a lot of crimes being solved or prevented. Being able to put it down on paper and selling it to a State's Attorney or a jury is what makes it great.

Which is why this recent push to combat nonexistent racial profiling isn't just a waste of time and money. It's plain dumb.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH hell yeah...FIRST BABY on a thread I totally agree with you on SCC!!!! You wanna get pinches, profiling works, thats just how it is!!! Fuck those liberal bastards! GO FIGHTING 017!!!

5/09/2006 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous ex 015th district ranger said...

This whole racial profiling is nonsense how come when we do it it's a problem but when the FBI does it it's not. They actually call it profiling. Hell dozens of other agencies do it across the country like the numerous state police agencies that look for the mexicans muling up coke from mexico. I mean lets be real it has to be done to be a good cop, it's what makes us sharp.

5/09/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


5/09/2006 05:14:00 PM  
Blogger Westcide Dog said...

I hate flashbacks! I saw purple dinosaurs once in 1980 and couldn't shake em for years. Then that Barney mope shows and the next thing you know I'm trippin' everytime I got to toys-r-us for the kids!

5/09/2006 05:18:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

Speaking of alleged "racial profiling", check out the latest police procedural tome entitled "OUT OF CABRINI" by Dave Case, a CPD sergeant.

Just made one of my frequent visits to Barnes & Noble and picked up a copy. The protagonist is 18th District Tac Officer Stacey Macbeth.

As the title indicates, his fictional turf is set in the violence of the Cabrini-Green of yesteryear---prior to gentrification and Starbucks.

Ah, bittersweet memories of those bloody nineteen-story fortified arsenals at "1150/60", "1117/19" and "500/502". Gone but not forgotten.

5/09/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous bender said...

I've worked in the southside ghetto for several years and I don't give a fuck who it is I pull over. If he's black, he's getting taken down. If anybody has a problem with that theres nothing they can do. I'll drive my squad car head-on into a telephone pole when I'm 99 and guess what? No more work, paid to sit at home the rest of my life. Funny things about backs, doctors can never tell what's really wrong with them. Be safe folks, pull over as many oppressed minorities as you can. Hell, pull over some fucking eskimo's if you can get the chance.

5/09/2006 05:47:00 PM  
Blogger Captain Ed Lenti #61 said...

Don't even think of stopping ME, I AM HISPANIC!!!

5/09/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, atleast the economy is doing good, right? Right?? Right???

New CBS Poll: Dim View of Bush and the GOP


Only 31% of those polled approve of Mr. Bush's job performance; 68% believe the United States is worse off today than it was before Bush became president. Congressional Republicans get an eviscerating review in this poll. The GOP gets a favorability rating of 37%, exactly 20 percentage points lower than where it was in 1994. Inversely, Democrats in Congress had a favorability rating increase of 11 percentage points over what it was in 1994...read on"

5/09/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: 06:26:52 PM

I can understand going off topic but at what point did you think to yourself, "Gee, I bet people are reading this thread just waiting to hear about this"? Something you have to realize. For every study proving an undeniable truth, there is another study proving the exact opposite. Stop plugging in to the media unless it is for pure entertainment.

5/09/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

Profiling? Yeah!! We all do it, police or not! It's the city and common sense way of life!

You see a vehicle out of place, or looks suspicious, some swivelhead walking down the street acting weird, it does not belong!!

Gotta run now to go for a workout! Ya know how I got that nickname "starchaser?"

The men and women workin my beat know I like chasin their patrol cars down 63rd street trying to catch a star! LMAO ;)

5/09/2006 06:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did someone say profiling?

How strange it is that Daley just returned from Israel. Did he fly El Al by chance?

Why, you say, do I ask? Well, El Al is the safest airline in the world, and the leading profiler for any transportation company. Their security personnel serve as advisors for DHS and numerous U.S. law enforcement agencies.

And most any major jurisdiction in the U.S. has sent someone to learn from the Israelis.

What are they learning? How to profile. How to profile a hijacker or suicide bomber.

Do Democrats REALLY have a problem with this, or is profiling okay only when its important like with airlines and suicide bombers. Having 500+ homicides per year ain't good enough reason?

FWIW, that's more deaths per year than Israel has suffered at the hands of terrorists in any year. At least, I think it is.

So profiling our gangbanging/drugdealing/drugbuying/homicidal criminals: Bad. They only kill 500 out of 3 million per year.

But profiling hijackers/suicide bombers/terrorists: Good. Even if they kill less than 500 out of Israel's 6 million per year.

Can we find somebody to run against these idiots?

5/09/2006 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not a police officer but a well respected member of the African-American community. I find that just because I am affluent, white police officers pull my vehicle over assuming I am engaged in narcotics activity. My fellow African-American brothers do not pull me over. Why only the white police? Because they are racist.

Besides the profiling, I thank you all for the fine job you are doing keeping my neighborhood safe.

5/09/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: 07:43:05 PM

Nothing ornate or over the top. Simply, Fuck you.

5/09/2006 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this... Bobby Rush???

5/09/2006 07:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 07:43 I hate to sound like this and cause you to have a heart attack, but the answer to your question is simple, not all but most of your fellow African Americans don't like to do traffic stops or generate work for that matter and again I emphasize not all. And yes I am white but no I am not racist I am just a realist.

5/09/2006 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

an overwhelming majority of violent crime is committed by which ethnic group?

that's right, the police just make up crime to justify their existence.

5/09/2006 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


On behalf of all Chciago Police officers I apologize for the racist treatment you have encountered by some of my co-workers.

5/09/2006 09:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does that chocolate cock taste?

5/09/2006 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

09:05..dont ever apologize for me,,you just stay in that desk job of yours and read the general orders so you can make sgt..i will stop pulling over blacks the day they start driving as the rules of the road state..and i stop white people to.but the black just as they do in school or at work just drive anyway they want..no RESPECT FOR ANYTHING..SO NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR THE WORKING POLICE...

5/09/2006 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ditto, 817.

Dixmoor PD!!!!
Home of the non-working po's!!!!! good luck getting backup while they sleep. hahahahahaha

5/09/2006 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All you Greco supporters should know that she and her website are complete phoney's - she has absolutely no connection to the National Police Memorial, neither the one in Great Britain or the one here in the U.S.

Check out their website: http://www.nleomf.com/TheMemorial/Facts/names2006.htm

5/09/2006 09:11:28 PM

5/09/2006 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Clearpath said...

Citing the importance of building trust between police and the community, Chicago Police Superintendent Phillip J. Cline unveiled a comprehensive community awareness campaign with a new public service announcement re-affirming the Department's strong commitment against racial profiling.

5/09/2006 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When your beat is 100% Black how can you arrest White people?

When Blacks stop breaking the law I'll stop locking them up.

I have never heard the dispathcer put ous a wanted description yet that was White on my beat ever.

5/09/2006 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Squad said...

I can think of one that occasionally used to pop up in 011, though certainly not common.

Hit and run offender: white junkie knowing exactly where he's at and what is likely to happen if he doesn't run. Technically, an offender and a hair away from being a homicide victim at the same time.

5/09/2006 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mayor just met with his Rabbi in Israel and will be leaving soon to see his Chinaman in the East.

Do you think he is worried about the next Mayors election?

The only security he's checking on is to save his ass from the Feds.

5/09/2006 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous huh? said...

O.K. I admit, I'm more than confused after viewing these numbers. www.mapsofworld.com

Racial Makeup: A 36.23 percent of the population of Chicago is African-American. Another 4.35 percent is Asian. A 26.03 percent of the people are Hispanic. The Whites constitute 31.34 percent of the population.

5/09/2006 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous profile this said...

We know the Hispanic population is way off, especially after the marches. So that puts whites where?
Wake me up when it's time to be a minority. Oh, sorry my mistake it is time NOW!

5/09/2006 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Tips for the pathetic said...

leomemorial said...
Profiling? Yeah!! We all do it, police or not! It's the city and common sense way of life!

You see a vehicle out of place, or looks suspicious, some swivelhead walking down the street acting weird, it does not belong!!

Gotta run now to go for a workout! Ya know how I got that nickname "starchaser?"

The men and women workin my beat know I like chasin their patrol cars down 63rd street trying to catch a star! LMAO ;)

5/09/2006 06:52:18 PM

See, here's the problem with you. You love to add your two cents to shit you know nothing about. You say your "friends" tell you about it, sorry, not the same. Don't try and compare experience here. You only add fuel to the fire for the growing list of haters.

Also all this LMAO,LOL,ROTFL,^5,;) shit, dead giveaway. Knock it off. By the speed that you respond to negative shit here, I'm guessing you must monitor this place WAAAAAAY more than most. Try to keep to less than 5 posts a day. Otherwise someone might get the wrong idea about you.

5/09/2006 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wrongo; check out her site

5/09/2006 10:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NorthSide said...
Speaking of alleged "racial profiling", check out the latest police procedural tome entitled "OUT OF CABRINI" by Dave Case, a CPD sergeant.

The Tales of Tyrone: part II

5/09/2006 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't Commander Perry just get found guilty of racial profiling her own officers? If the Sup. is serious about racial profiling, why not start with her, and make an example?

Fact, in a city that is about 33% black, about 60% of the criems are commited by blacks. White people are not doing drive bys in Englewood (or anywhere elese in the city). White people are not doing car jackings in Gresham. Very few white people at least in Chicago are out on street corners selling crack to their own children and poioning their neighborhood.

5/10/2006 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the added page in the rules of the road booklet. The people that we are trying to pull over, those that are black...half of them do not have licenses or have ever gotten one. It is unlikely that they will ever read that page regarding what to do when you get pulled over by a police officer.

5/10/2006 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...If they're called minorities why the fuck are they all I see when I look around?

P.S. Support and encourage "gun buyback" programs for inner cities...when SHTF there will be that many fewer guns shooting back at us and raiding our neighborhoods. I used to oppose any of Daley's anti-gun programs but when you realize he's just disarming the minority-majority of Chicago, it will help when the eventual race riot begins.

5/10/2006 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perry was not found guilty of profiling, the City was found guilty of retailiation against the sergeants/lts. for beefing. Hence the money for each.

5/10/2006 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Northside, how much was that book and is it written well?

5/10/2006 07:10:00 AM  
Blogger CalumetCopper said...

The liberal media won't be happy with ANY police service until they give us shiny whistles, white gloves, unarm us, and want us to simply tell any offender of any crime.

"Sir, stop! STOP SIR!"

Everyone wants a safer city, but no one wants to acknowledge what it takes to get one.

5/10/2006 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous leomemorial said...

Our police memorial strives to work to bring police and the community together. Naturally, we also know that there are limits on this. When the petition rolled out, there was a tremendous amount of civilians that not only supported you, asked what they could do to assist further, and even some who followed up after Haithcock dropped the sign issue (for now).

It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what profiling is. We're not splicing DNA here.

I'm not changing who I am to please you or anyone else, but to get the job done. Have a great day.

5/10/2006 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
All you Greco supporters should know that she and her website are complete phoney's - she has absolutely no connection to the National Police Memorial, neither the one in Great Britain or the one here in the U.S.

Check out their website: http://www.nleomf.com/TheMemorial/Facts/names2006.htm

5/09/2006 09:11:28 PM

5/09/2006 09:43:05 PM

This self-appointed and self-aggrandizing nitwit is trading on the name and reputation of the real National Police Memorial Fund to make herself look important and to dupe members of the Chicago Police Department into trusting her. She's a troll and no one should trust her. She's a beefer and has gotten CR#'s on PO's who confronted her. If she really contacted anyone in the Gilhooley family she should be whipped. Since she apparently doesn't work -is she living on donations made to her website but intended for the real Police Memorial????? She's simply your standard con-artist and probably thief. Know your enemy!!!!!!!

5/10/2006 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, please what ever you do keep profiling minorities, never stop for one instance.


5/10/2006 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH brother

5/10/2006 07:22:00 PM  
Anonymous leomemorial said...

You're quite far from the truth.

We never accept any financial donations for our memorial. WE did receive a police memorial art print "We Never Walk Alone" from the creator when we first established our site in 1999. Do you know anything about that print and what it represents?
I personally pay to keep our forum running on a quarterly basis.

If you check, there are no "CR's" on any police officer that has confronted me. Because no police officer HAS confronted me. (?)

You must be totally clueless about any police memorial since you don't know much about the NLEOMF let alone what we do. And yes, we are a national police memorial.

One of our Assistant's from the UK stood with the CPD in DC last year (SCC has the pics). So if you are even CPD, you weren't there!!

Believe it or not, I am employed full time!

Anyone that does know me, knows that if I was in charge of anything charitable, I would never touch the funds. That's not cool...

5/10/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prove it!!!!!!!! You're just another piece of groupie shit trying to rip off real coppers!

5/10/2006 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe it's that 18 inch hood ornament on your purple caddy.

5/11/2006 04:10:00 AM  
Anonymous mexico screams profile said...

Wiens says remark reflects Mexico's contempt for laws

Tom Wiens backed immigration notification bill signed
Print By Myung Oak Kim, Rocky Mountain News
May 6, 2006
The political storm over illegal immigration grew Friday when a Colorado lawmaker demanded an apology from a Mexican official for expressing concerns that a new immigration law would lead to racial profiling

5/11/2006 04:41:00 AM  

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