Baseball Trades
Ok, voice your opinion. Cubs making big moves while they're stuck in yet another rebuilding year (their 100th or so). The Sox make two small moves in the previous few weeks as they try to make a run at a repeat.
Aren't the Bears in training now? Doesn't preseason start next month? And once again, the Blackhawks will be struggling to escape the cellar.
Aren't the Bears in training now? Doesn't preseason start next month? And once again, the Blackhawks will be struggling to escape the cellar.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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it was fun with the white sox winning the world series last year, this year is already a bust... too bad ... and the bears still appear to have NO OFFENSE. YECCH!
oh yeah and BTW i'm first again...
Baseball trades? We are worrying about baseball trades? How about trading those useless RBT A/2 female dics for some REAL DETECTIVES.
Da Bears!
Who cares about baseball now?
It's August. It's time for some football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bears (and Colts!)
Any truth to that earlier statement about the SOS guys and the cash?
A SOS Lt is going down too !
Don't steal with those that squeel.
John the Baptist 3:16
The Sergeant that is rumored to be involved is the weakest link.
Hi Ham !! you should do some work instead of reading this ... look at the hands !!!
What is this shit about us losing our healthcare in 2013?!
We actually agreed to this shit?!
Please tell me this is an unsubstantiated rumor!!
A blonde, wanting to earn some money, decided to hire herself out as a handyman-type and started canvassing a wealthy neighborhood. She went to the front door of the first house and asked the owner if he had any jobs for her to do.
"Well, you can paint my porch. How much will you charge?"
The blonde said, "How about 50 dollars?" The man agreed and told her that the paint and ladders that she might need were in the garage. The man's wife, inside the house, heard the conversation and said to her husband, "Does she realize that the porch goes all the way around the house?"
The man replied, "She should. She was standing on the porch."
A short time later, the blonde came to the door to collect her money.
"You're finished already?" he asked. "Yes," the blonde answered, "and I had paint left over, so I gave it two coats. "Impressed, the man reached in his pocket for the $50. "And by the way," the blonde added, "that's not a Porch, it's a Ferrari."
look at the hands!!!
Where have you been? Yes, say good bye insurance by 2013. City is getting out.
We didn't really agree to the loss of Ins. The city told the current FOP board they were getting out, about the same time the lodge forgave them the pension right off. What ever happened to the Me To Clause with the Fire Dept? Can we get into their union or what ever they call their representing lodge? I know, I know many of you don't see the need for a true representing union.
Maybe the lodge needs to account to us where their at on any given day, besides the golf course. I hear plenty of I can't get a hold of board members, or the more frequent one their not returning phone calls. Has anyone else out in FOP cyper world ever experienced a non-return call?
IF one is getting paid approx $170K+ (or whatever the truth is), they better be fucking earning it to represent the PO. They should be addressing concerns/effectively communicating, making changes, and have spine.
Back to the basics FOP, BASICS.
Basics do not include blowing money on expensives lunches, and photo ops.
Don't forgot WHY you're in the position you're in.
SPORT OF THE HOUR FOP BLUES.
The Cubs need new management, preferably new ownership. The Sox and that gang banger Guillen need smaller heads, the Bears are a lost cause. Hockey? have they come back from their strike yet?
I'm with OLE, indoor sports; competitive female ass dining.
It's retiree health care that stops in 2013, not for the rank and file. Those currently covered under the contract will continue to have negotiated health care. Those not covered will have it terminated in 7 years. Hey Wayne? Why aren't you correcting this misinterpretations? You running for office again? Who you gonna run in Jaglowski's spot since his heart attack?
A year of destiny for da Bears. Start and finish with the fudge packers, have both New Jersey teams on the schedule. Actually see them going 12-4 and playing in February. Cubs definately need a change in mgt. Sox, the baseball gods are not happy with you anymore. Ozzie needs to shut up and manage. The Wirtz owned hockey club: I stopped following them after they left the old barn. Sad to see a storied franchise that owned this city in the 60's and 70's fall hard because their owner is an ass.
OK, just for you guys that never pay attention to the pension or medical issues. The FOP never bargained away medical benefits after the year 2013. This all started many years ago when the City told the retirees that they were going to reduce and then eventually eliminate retiree health care. The retirees sued in court explaining that the City guaranteed them health care coverage when they retired. The court rule that the City is not required to provide health care coverage for thier retirees. The City and the retirees then came to an agreement that the City would provide retiree health care coverage at least until the year 2013. Plus the agreement set down the co-pay the retiree must make on a monthly basis for their health care coverage. NO UNION had any input into this court decision and the decision affects every City retiree no matter what Dept. or Union they are in. This has been coming a long way down the pipe and no one has done anything to stop the speeding train. Also, this does not effect the employees that are working at the time. The City will continue to provide Health care for active employees but God only knows what it will cost everyone per pay check for that coverage.
Why can't we get the same benefits the alderscum get when they retire?!
So I am in a north side district and heard that the commander of the 17th district had a sgt spared for working out on duty in the station? but the thing was the Little commander was working out as well right next to him! A few days later the same sgt parked his police car in front of the station within 15ft of the fire plug and the Little guy ordered a p.o. to wright a ticket on the car! Other officers should come to that district that commander changed the hours of the 6-2 cars on friday to 7-3am what a guy!
Thank goodness he didn't ask you to "wright" the parker ol' boy spellin champ of Area Five! Make eighth grade education a minimum educational requirement hor appointment!
The 017 Commander ..... didnt make the 3rd watch 1800 cars start at 1900 on the weekends on his own. Capt Anderson cries like a little girl to him that he has no coverage.
So 1800 cars start at 1900 on Fri/Sat so midnight cars can stay down for up to 2 hours getting movies for the desk, or running downtown for their food. Check the logs....everynight midnight cars go immediatley down on nonsense then complain nobody helps them. If they get assigned a job with a 3rd watch car, they dont show up. But dont worry Capt Anderson...its all been documented.
So I think you should tell the Commander things are ok so 1900 starts should stop ...right?
"had a sgt spared"
What his life?
"working out on duty in the station"
Ees 'gainst the rules, youse go to da box, two minutes, feel shame, then you git free.
"sgt parked his police car in front of the station within 15ft of the fire plug and the Little guy ordered a p.o. to wright a ticket on the car!"
Well, if it were I, I would try to draw as little attention to myself as possible if I was on anyone's shit list. Since I wasn't there, I can't give an objective opinion on who is right or wrong
OK off topic. But under a previous thread it was mentioned that the CPD is under its budgeted manning by between 1 or 2 thousnand cops. Another poster stated that at the range an instructor told him/her that there are only 8000 gualified "shooters" on the department. That means either 5000 cops are not either qualified to patrol or those positions are not filled. So why the f@ck are'nt you people doing anything about this?
Here we have two teams , one from the north & one from the south. Only one team is worth a dam. It's the team from the south. Your Chicago White Sox. Who by the way who are still in the running for some kind of part in the up coming end of the season hoopla. Although they might not make it , they still have a chance. It's a small one but who cares just maybe they might do it. We won't know there fate until the end of Sept.
But we do know the fate of your Chicago Cubs. It's NADA , NOTHING
ZILCH. They have no fate. Wait , Oh Yes. It's DOOM . Yes my friends
The Cubs will SUCK for another year
they will never get any better but one thing for sure , they will get worst. Today's Cub fan is a LOOSER
he supports a team that Sucks and area in which they play that Sucks
and Fans that SUCK. So my advice to Cub fans . Go find another team to support. Because everything that Lee Elia said years ago is still true today. So CUBTARDS , GO FUCK YOURSELFS OR Go FUCK your other FANS.
There was no misrepresentation on ins. and pension issue from what I just read on the blog. Is it not a fact the city said their out in 2013 on ins. did the FOP not forgive the city a whopping dollar amount of our pension money. The answer is yes on both topics.
Here’s a street stop video for you!
http://crimefilenews.blogspot.com/2006/08/heres-street-stop-video-for-you.html
That is Hilarious. Kinda saw it comin though
For the last fucking time THE FOP IS NOT A UNION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your right FOP is not a union. A union would'nt let almost half its jobs go to people who cant/don't qualify to do their jobs[patrol]. The poster who stated that only 8000 out of a budgeted 13500 qualify on the range said it all.
Hey Sun-Times, Tribune reporters that sometime read this....
How about a story on how understaffed we are and how no one is taking this job anymore due to things like them taking away our insurance and being the only big city left with a residency requirement and it is too damn expensive to live in this city getting paid what we do??
How about investigating how many people are REALLY on this job. It aint 13,500, no matter what Phil says. Where does the money go for the thousands of officers we are short?
I am sure the taxpayers would like to know this. The gauntlet has been thrown.
8/02
1:13pm
Don't we all wish? But just like the Fed's pick and choose who and what they investigate on this job so does the media. Wish I could get a 100% increase on my paycheck like I'm getting on my taxes.
So why arent we doing something about useless fop? Why are we not stomping the shit out of them.
Why are we NOT sticking togeher to keep what is ours as CITY EMPLOYEES!
Keep bitching about who you hate. 8000 out of a budgeted 13500 qualify on the range. Got that?
"they will get worst. Today's Cub fan is a LOOSER
he supports a team that Sucks and area in which they play that Sucks
and Fans that SUCK. So my advice to Cub fans . Go find another team to support. Because everything that Lee Elia said years ago is still true today. So CUBTARDS , GO FUCK YOURSELFS OR Go FUCK your other FANS."
It goes to show you-- to be a Sox fan-- all thats needed is a total disregard for the English language. What a complete and total tool. Go back to remedial grammar class asshat!
"So 1800 cars start at 1900 on Fri/Sat."
From what I understand, If they switch the start times of the late rapid cars past the 1800 hour start, the officers are able to fill out O.T. slips for the change in start time. Third watch only has two start times, 1500 and 1600 hours. If hours are changed past two hour start the officer is to be compensated. I believe this is only for District beat cars.
From what I understand, other Districts tried this and the late rapid guys went to the union and were told to fill out slips. Also, heard there was a grievence filed regarding this.
So what does your post have to do with only 8000 out of a budgeted 13500 cops qualified on the range? Are you sure your not from HQ? Why change the subject?
How is it that the CHA residents get free stays at the Palmer House and Hilton Towers because their power went out. What if the fine residents of MT Greenwood, Garfield Ridge, and Edison Park lost their power. Would they take care of them?
They even got free room service.
WHo is paying that bill? And why??? Sun Times, Tribune, are you listening?
MEDIA, THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION, MAYORS OFFICE, ALDERMEN, ETC. FEAR BLACK PEOPLE WHEN THEY FEEL THEY ARE OWED SOMETHING.
PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO LET SOMEONE WHO IS LIVING OFF THE SYSTEM GO WITHOUT FOR EVEN A FEW HOURS.
I wonder what the rooms looked like afterward and how much booze was left in the mini-bar. SHIIIIT..if it all free we gona take it.
then there was the one girl on FOX saying that it wasn't quite as catastrphic as Katrina...What in the hell was she thinking? That shit was unbelievable. How much more free shit can we give? How many more FREEBIES can the government invent to keep these lazy, do nothing, stand on the porch and corner, bitchy ,money grabbin, peices of shit happy.
Because they are kissing ass for votes. My grandparents didnt get this type of service.
Every politician is kissing so much ass that the true american gets it up his/her ass.
These typical ghetto rats would rather smoke a rock then buy an air conditioner. They cater to these peices of shit who dont even care about living.
Yet when power goes out to real working class citizens we would be told....you can offord to....
Whats next....I will have to adopt some ghetto rat in order to be a city employee. I hate thios fuckin city and its politicians. I hope you all get fucked by the G.
NO UNION had any input into this court decision and the decision affects every City retiree no matter what Dept. or Union they are in.
Does the name John Dineen ring a bell. For the forgetful, unimformed, or those who have ten minutes on the job, John Dineen was the president of the FOP. He gave all of our rights away when he "negotiated" the first so called contract we got. He was also heavily and still is heavily involved in the FOP. The current president is his protege.
His law suit caused the current problem retirees have now- high health insurance costs. Be careful what you ask for. FOP sold us out and have been selling us out. Now they sold out the retirees.
Oh, yeah, and for all of you young guys who keep asking why some of us are staying around so long; we can't afford the health care insurance.
We will all be living in apartments soon, when we can't pay our bills and taxes. It will be like New York. This city eats ass and everyone working here is doomed
No matter what I said or how I said it the CUBS and there Fans all SUCK DICK !
Is that better , Fuckwad !!!!
Third watch only has two start times, 1500 and 1600 hours
From what I understand, other Districts tried this and the late rapid guys went to the union and were told to fill out slips. Also, heard there was a grievence filed regarding this.
your start time is designated on the sheets at the start of the period(granted no one pays much attention to periods since we no longer rotate) however it is incorrect to state 3rd watch has only 2 start times. thus if on the sheets you are designated a 1800 start they can start you 1600-2000 without paying you overtime.providing it doesnt vary by more than two hours a period
The city has ben saying for years that they want out of the health care business. They claim it is too costly. They would much prefer if we paid one hundred percent of our health care or, even better, get our own.
The FOP is no better. They could care less. Sold out by the city. Sold out by the FOP.
Democrats, who promote health care, hate their employess so much they want to take it away from them.
The 018 District 3rd watch filed a grievance in early 2005 with FOP, and Management and Labor Affairs ruled in favor of the PO's after examining the grievance papers. The only starting times are 1500 and 1600 for 3rd watch,per G.O.'s and the 1800 late rapids are already a 2 hr deviation from the 1600 start time.
I was a supervisor in 006 when they tried to start all the late rapids at 2000 hours on Fri and Sat nights to help with the time that shootings were taking place. The W/C started the ball rolling there to rescind the 2000 start, and it worked, based on the previous mentioned incident with 018.
If they are trying this start time shift again, file the grievance, document the affected people by making copies of the schedule every day that someone is affected, and send copies to the contact person at FOP who is handling the grievance.
YOu guys are some pussy mother fuckers. Such cowardice has no reward except "self appreciation" everyone else thinks you are a spineless pussy. That is until say something to his face rather than hiding here. Whatever.
TRADE FOP FOR THE TEAMSTERS. It would be like trading two minor league players for the major league MVP. GO TEAMSTERS!
Off topic.
Testerday a Hispanic Immigration judge gave a group if illegal aliens a one year continuance in their deportation hearing. Supposedly it was to allow them time to demonstrate the hardship on their families if they were deported. Reality? They are hoping the law will be changed so their deportation will be a moot issue.
They are here illegally, they are working illegaly, and they can stay and work here illegally. So the Hispanic judge has allowed them to violate our laws for another year.
There is no justice. Just us.
I can't wait to retire in 2 years and MOVE OUT THIS CESSPOOL OF A CITY!!
Why aren't FOP officer's worried about their OWN healthcare after retirement? Because they make more than DOUBLE P.O.s so they can sock enough away or do they have some additional insurance as FOP officers? We need a "Me too" clause for FOP officers.
I read all of this shit about the FOP and we still don't vote. Their are more remarkes about the FOP than votes casted in the last election.
1. Retired Officers - SHOULD NOT VOTE OR HOLD ELECTED POSITIONS!!!! the FOP can't even rep. them in any matters. We have retired P.O.'s deciding whats good for P.O.'s on the streets..
2. VOTING TO BE DOEN IN UNITES.
3. LIST OF MEMBERS WHO DID OR DID NOT VOTE TO BE POSTED... you can go down to the board of election and see if someone voted in any election...but not the FOP.
4. 40% of all P.O. are not even reg. to vote in general elections in the city of chicago.
So.. shut the fuck up and vote.....
easy tiger
Low voter turnout is a problem. However, I'm no detective but I'd hazard a guess that the people attempting to open up topics like FOP probably do vote. Maybe your "shut up" should not be directed at those of us who want to discuss how we're getting fucked but the ones who just want to badmouth each other, tell us how their district "rules" and soon, I'm sure, how cool they were in high school. Odds are that they don't vote otherwise they'd be a little more interested in topics like these.
You are correct my "shut up" is directed at the people who just take this shit storm that we are given as P.O.'s. I have 14 years on and it is usualy the P.O.'s that bitch the most due the least to correct it... We all know that the F.O.P. is screwed up.. so as P.O.'s we should fix it..not leave it so we have somthing to bitch about...
I say class action suit against the city....when I took this job the job description also spelled out the benefits and that included paid health insurance.....the city just can't "quit" on providing health insurance....where are the legal eagles when you need them? FOP are you listening??
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Adios, au revoir, sayonara, motherfuckers!
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OLE !! Time to dine on some fine female ass....so A/2 females will not be invited....OLE !!
Why is the FOP President salary almost as much as Mayor Daley's paycheck?
He better be performing some damn miracles at that rate...
Why do I have an urge to smell my fingers after wiping my ass ?
What's the names of the PO's going down in SOS, bosses too ?
Hear it at work. No names here.
Good point LEOMEMORIAL. That salary is a bit much. Hell, I wouldn't fault them their big salaries IF we had our pension and healthcare squared away. And notice there are THREE Sgt.at Arms? I hope they aren't all salary. Was Nolan president when they sold us out and agreed that WE would pay them instead of CPD? To be exact: That their CPD salaries would be reimbursed by FOP funds. Their second salary is paid by us direct. Time for a change. Time for us to GET PISSED and stop believing the hype!
what are all of their salaries? I hear Sid Davis makes $100K
what are his job duties exactly?
Heres a few things I've found out. I don't know if they are hinky or not. I just find them interesting and think they are worth looking into and with enough of us digging...
Bob Podgorny - FOP Lodge 7 Former 1st Vice President, Currently Trustee and also...
President of NCPERS National Conference on Public Employee Retirement Systems - The worlds LARGEST national, nonprofit public pension advocate. Heads of nonprofit organizations DO get paid. Lets find out how much. He was also just named to Dow Jones Wilshire Indexes Advisory Board. Doubt thats unpaid. Glad he was able to make all those connections. Good for him. Doesn't seem like he would have much time to be trustee anymore though and he certainly doesn't need it.
Ron Shogren-Current Lodge Trustee and....
Mr. Shogren is nominated to the Patrolmens Federal Credit Union as Trustee. Election is in September if you all want to go and vote for him. Don't worry about showing up to vote. Nobody goes to those things so the votes he already knows he has will get him in. Unless you want to vote against him, you evil bastards?! PATROLMEN's (that's us) Credit Union Trustee a paid position? How much?
These are examples of "feathering your nest." A common practice of making connections that will pay off later (as opposed to straight up bribe taking). Which is fine. But only IF, in the meantime, those you represent aren't getting BONED!!
I can't find their salaries anywhere online. All I got was that stuff I submitted yesterday about Donahue under-reporting his salary to IL Charitable Organizations and Attorney General deciding NOT to fine him. He claimed approx.$53,000 and was found to make $146,000. Slight miscalculation? His explanation was that he only reported his police salary (which we pay back to city) and the rest is paid to him by union (again, which we pay). Someone out there knows this stuff. Come on, you muckrackers! W.H has gotta know those salaries!
Yeah HAREJ
Let's hear it straight.
What does these people make????
I have also been unable, so far, to get a copy of FOP Chicago Aviation Police Lodge 261 collective bargaining agreement to see if they have same contract. If it's better we all just join them!!! Wonder why they have a different lodge and how they got away with that, lucky bastards!
Yeah W.H. This is your chance to consolidate your voting bloc! Get the guys on your side. Won't be as big a money maker though, now that I'm watchdogging! You'll just have to wait to accept all those advisory fees and guest lecture fees untill after you leave the post of President.
Calling Wayne. Give it up. How much they make or where do we find the info.
EDDIE " LAWS" BURKE bans the following in the City of Chicago....
It should be illegal to :
Be a cub fan
white sox fan
have money for food
have a wife who is NOT a judge
fight cancer( or any other horoscope sign)
breathe
smile
and disagree with...
I know what's best for you, you bastards, EDDIE.
How about we ban Eddie Burke?
P.s. Let's hear the real deal on the FOP, please. Wayne, where are you?
what are all of their salaries? I hear Sid Davis makes $100K
what are his job duties exactly?
8/03/2006 12:25:23 AM
What are Sid "the racist" Davis duties? The same duties he has performed his whole career. Sitting behind a desk screwing the police. He has never been a cop, just a desk jockey. His only claim to work is his silly calendar with all the so called important dates. He came up wwith it so he did not have to tax his pea brain to remember them.
Sid Davis was born useless, raised useless, and will die useless. His favorite quotes are "the FOP cannot get involved with this or we won't help you." Oh and he firmly believes that the City cannot violate State nad Federal labor laws. He is nothing more than a political hack. He does the bidding of the politicians, not the membership.
He is honest though. He will tell you to your face that FOP will not help you. He will tell you to your face that he is racist. Must be a genetic anomaly.
Sid Davis has been a total wase of a human being since the day he was born.
The 017 Commander ..... didnt make the 3rd watch 1800 cars start at 1900 on the weekends on his own. Capt Anderson cries like a little girl to him that he has no coverage.
So 1800 cars start at 1900 on Fri/Sat so midnight cars can stay down for up to 2 hours getting movies for the desk, or running downtown for their food. Check the logs....everynight midnight cars go immediatley down on nonsense then complain nobody helps them. If they get assigned a job with a 3rd watch car, they dont show up. But dont worry Capt Anderson...its all been documented.
So I think you should tell the Commander things are ok so 1900 starts should stop ...right?
Problems in ( ALBANY PARK 017 )
Keep talkin shit boys and girls !
Bet an INSPECTOR will visit yeah real soon !
The CAPTS on 1st and 2nd watch are the issues at hand along with a D/C that has days left on the job.
So go with the flow 3rd watch or the big bad CAPTS will stick it in your ass !
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