Tuesday, September 12, 2006

Word From on High

  • Police Supt. Phil Cline has no plans to scrap the Special Operations Section in the wake of felony charges against four of its officers.

    Appearing at a new memorial to officers killed or injured in the line of duty, Cline said the unit is worth keeping, despite the arrests.

    "There's no reason to disband the SOS unit," Cline said.

Well, we're sure that's a relief to everyone over at the old Sears building. But we're also sure that we haven't seen the end of reorganization and policy changes, not just at SOS, but citywide. Orders cut from the Patrol Division state that a Sergeant or above must be on scene and witness any signatures on "Consent to Search" forms. Unmarked cars a disappearing from units other than SOS. Take home cars may soon be restricted to exempts and there are rumors that those will be marked. Who knows what to believe when a scandal rolls into town?

By the way, does anyone else think that we have a couple of reporters reading the blog and their running to the Supe with questions?

77 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Copy and paste

http://mfile.akamai.com/12948/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0728/9591734.300k.asx

Its nice to know that there are Police Bosses out there that are not balless who will stand up to to scumbag judges and politicians. To bad we dont have guys like this standing up for us!

Could you see our own studdering goofball mayor trying to do this.

ah ba dee ah ba dee common sense.

9/12/2006 06:53:00 AM  
Blogger leftisthebest said...

There's no doubt the press are getting some of their leads from here. That can be a good thing, or a bad thing too.

9/12/2006 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the trust from the public is mirrored by the trust, or lack of trust the Supt. and supervisors have for us. Thats the bottom line. They are slowly taking away every portion of freedom we have.

9/12/2006 07:58:00 AM  
Blogger Disgusted in Area Five said...

Many of the people who have take home cars utilize them as their personal vehicles and are not on-call in their off duty hours. If they continue to allow take home cars then they should all have
m-plates and I see nothing wrong with them being marked cars.

Regarding meritorious promotions, Phat Phil allowed his son to become a lieutenant, LeRoy Martin did not promote his son meritoriously and did not request any subsequent Superintendent to promote him. Who is more ethical?

9/12/2006 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The liberal media ruins everything... I did get a kick out of the "Sons of Supervisors" remark on the news though... Anyone have a link to it?

9/12/2006 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you better believe that we have more than just a few reporters taking a look at this blog.

Just a note, the Supt. has given the order that all supervisor's below exempt rank who are assigned to the bldg. will have to turn in their unmarked (take home cars) and will be given a marked car without roof top lights. Why? To make it look like there is a strong presence of police out in the streets.
Supervisors at the bldg. are not happy about this, as they are soon to be flagged down by a citizen wh are in need of assistance.

Remember, the marked cars have a number on them that can be easily traced back to the person driving the vehicle. Make sure you have your police radio with you.

9/12/2006 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger Jack said...

I'm a patrol cop from a small city in Texas, and I'm pretty sucessful at gaining consent to search. I like street interdiction and have gotten good at it, and while I can still talk my way into most cars, more people are refusing consent these days.

Thankfully, I'm not (yet) required to get written consent. When/if that happens, my consents will go way down...as soon as some official paperwork comes out, they know it's not just their word against mine anymore. If you add me having to wait for a SGT to come be an official witness, I bet I would go from the 10-15% refusal rate I have now to around 90-95% refusals.

Good luck getting into those cars, guys. Seems like they're making it harder and harder on us all to do anything consentual.

9/12/2006 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHAHAH

I missed the first part, this is actually in the Slum-times! hahahahah WOW talk about a set up. Which Alderman or Reverand will be first to retort.

Bye bye SOS. It was fun while it lasted.....

9/12/2006 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It always amazes me the knee-jerk reaction to any scandel or crisis in this dept. Yet nothing ever changes. Taking away unmarked cars makes no sense. What about district tact/gang, or nagis, or the diks'? Will they also fall under the no unmarked car rule
? Hey, what if a copper used his personal car to commit crimes instead of an unmarked, would they then ban all personal cars in the district parking lots and issue us all take home squads?

9/12/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

Glad to see they are not painting the entire unit with a broad brush for what a few may or may not have done. The cts policy is not new, just probably only enforced on the district level (swiping, anyone). I got a saw buck on the following: within the next 18 months you will see many bids out of 253 to places like 022, 008, and 016. Management will really clamp down on how things are run over there. Look for the salts to say "screw that, I'd rather be closer to home." The residents of these places will benefit, the Department gets to put younger people there who will tow the line and everyone will be happy.

9/12/2006 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt class to start soon.
The test results from the most recent test will not be sent out till after the new year.
The next Sgt class with be 100 or so.............

9/12/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HOW DO I BECOME AN AREA TWO GUN TEAM CRIME FIGHTER?
THEY ARE THE BEST.....
I WANT TO GET LARGE WEAPON SEIZURES WITHOUT HAVING TO DO ANYTHING BUT TYPE UP A WARRANT.

9/12/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey can anyone tell me why firemen who take the fitness test annually make $350.00 and us policemen who take it only get $250.00.

And yes I know someone is going to say the FOP sucks but doesnt the me-too claus come into this anywhere.

Thanks

9/12/2006 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After 25 years it still puzzles me who decides who elite is. Obviously the Mayor and his buddies aren't any good at it. The Top Cops (supt) have all been indicted since I've been on the job, with the exception of Hillard. Brass has been indicted for years. Guess how many skated indictments because of their ties with the Mayor. Maybe they should clean house starting at the top.

9/12/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was at the ribbon cutting ceremony at the Police Memorial this morning. It was a sonderful thing. Say what you want about cline, but he made this happen.

The real news, now don't tell anyone, and do not go posting this all over your blog and comment section. I could be killed for revealing this.

FOP has surfaced. That's right, FOP is alive and well. All, except that Black guy, what'shisname, were standing in a gaggle. It was kind of funny. Not one patrolman walked up and talked to them, not one. They can sure glad hand the bosses, though. They only talked to and were talked to by the bosses.

The Black guy, yeah, Syd Davis, was walking around by himself. Everytime he would join a group of police officers, they walked away.

Soooo, there is an FOP, and they are in our midst. Maybe they are trying to organized the exempts.

9/12/2006 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the unit should be disbanded immediately... the original purpose of the unit has long been altered,perverted, and distorted. allowing young and inexperienced officers going unsupervised, or working under unqualified supervision was a true receipe for disaster.

9/12/2006 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Frank Main said...

People in the hallway at HQ were talking about the names of possible commanders for 005---could it be that Rich Aguinaga is getting consideration? Enquiring minds want to know......

9/12/2006 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dilligaf is that you as in "jerky girl's" husband?

9/12/2006 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They almost have to get rid of SOS. They got rid of gang specialists, gangs north/south and west. I was in SOS for years. I left because it got bad. It got bad when we left 011 and went to Fillmore/Homan. Not too many in SOS are happy there, even before the scandal.

So...it seems the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. SOS, districts, units, coppers, etc..none of the above are what they used to be. They say the private sector blows, too!!

Good luck all!! I'm retiring soon!

9/12/2006 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>To make it look like there is a strong presence of police out in the streets.<<<<

Today I saw 3 bicycle cops out in Clearing. That's new...

9/12/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They had inspectors standing at the entrance to the parking lot at 35th again today, taking names, star numbers and units of anyone driving into work in a Department vehicle. HA HA HA HA! It was kinda hilarious watching the take home car crowd circling the side streets for an hour, trying to find a spot on the street to avoid the Inspectors! Ha !!!

What isn't so funny is that they better start car pooling soon. You think the parking was screwed up before, you ain't seen nothing yet! Avoid that place at all costs.

9/12/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SoS is 153.....

9/12/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Retired CPD said...

Hey Disgusted in area 5
You have just won the contest for the biggest fucken MORON on this Blog. You need to get a life and stay off this Blog. You are the most uninformed person on this Blog. You make up all this Bullshit with nothing to back it up. You are a MORON. Go play in traffic.

9/12/2006 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a journalist but I don't cover cops. If I'm reading it, and your blog gets a plug in local media, then it's obvious other reporters who do cover cops are gonna read it. There's no way of knowing with 100 percent certainity if the comments from "cops" are really cops, but there are some that sound more credible than others, based on context clues.
So if you guys want to send the media on a wild goose chase, you have the power right here to do it!
What amazes me is how CPD hasn't tried to shut down this site. Not that I'd like to see that, but I can't see how they'd not threaten their employees if they knew who the ANONYMOUS cops are.

9/12/2006 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The unmaked car thing is all crap. Yes fewer will be taken home, yes fewer will be assigned to units like SOS. The district tact and gang teams will keep their unmarked cars, after all they are in unifrom most of the time anyway. Investigative uits will keep their unmarked cars.

The cost to put all those decals on a marked car is about $800.00 a vehicle. The cost to repaint a car white and the put all the decals on is over three grand.

By the time all the unmarked cars we have now are replaced, this mess will be behind us and we will have a new supt. So dont sweat all this unmarked bullshit.

9/12/2006 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

see many bids out of 253 to places like 022, 008, and 016. Management will

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253 = TRU

153 = SOS

9/12/2006 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley will grand stand and order eht disbandment of SOS in a few weeks.

9/12/2006 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would they need inspectors to take down the names and stars of those driving an unmaked car or a take hime car? that does not make sence. They now who is authorized to take a car home and keep close tabs on that.

If your not authorized to take a car home and you pull into the lot at 35th street, so what, I went out for coffey. I would think the inspector would have to catch you at home with your car, not pulling into the lot at 35th street.

If you work at 35th street and are authorized (CLOUT)to take home a car, you dont have to worry about an inspectors beef anyway.

9/12/2006 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic, but I'm at work and don't want my outlook email address used to email SCC direct (my employer tracks all outgoing emails from our work addresses).

OK, so 4 law students got charged with agg batt over the weekend for the incident in the west loop. The media is apparently too timid to name 4 law students who get charged with felonies, but has no problem naming 4 coppers who get charged.

There is sort of a debate going on in legal circles, and I was asked to ask...

Does anyone know:
1.) the names of those charged;
2.) the school(s) attended by those charged; and (most importantly)
3.) did any of these idiots actually grow up in Chicago or any other major city?

Guessing is that these 4 are from the suburbs or somewhere that ain't Chicago or New York.

Anyway, I'm a lawyer and former CPD, and its just a bet, but it seems like its fair to post their names here so long as the media and lawyers are constantly posting the names of coppers.

SCC, I'm not challenging you. If this question shouldn't be asked or answered here, than please delete this and my feelings won't be hurt.

9/12/2006 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 9/12/2006 09:45:39 PM

Are you kidding me?

If you were CPD or any law enforcement type then you know it is a crime to release that info.

Why is it you can post from your employers pc but not use the email act?

Nice try.

9/12/2006 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GPS is comming gang.

First unmarked cars, then
city - wide marked cars.
Then wagons (because of out
of district runs).
Finaly marked cars.

18 months from the first instal.

9/12/2006 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Disgusted in Area Five said...

Phat Phil allowed his son to become a lieutenant....


Hey dumb fuck, Cline's kid is a Sgt. You can all bellyache about secret study groups or whatever, but he is not a Lt.

As for take home cars, are you still mad at Hawk & Dean? I have at take home car. I hate the fucking thing, it's a giant pain in my ass. But there is no way I could do my job in a fleet car, marked or unmarked, with M plates. Of course if you weren't such a bitter whiny fuck you wouldn't be buried in A/5 SVU.

9/12/2006 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever the new commander of the 5th district is, let's hope it is a person who has some sanity and smarts with minimal clout, because clout usually comes w/out the sanity and smarts.

9/12/2006 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the story with the law students and some agg batt thing?

9/12/2006 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After 25 years it still puzzles me who decides who elite is. The Top Cops (supt) have all been indicted since I've been on the job, with the exception of Hillard.
***********************************
I've been on since 77. Name which Superintendents were indicted and what for. Rodriguez, Martin, etc. Tell me genius. You sound as stupid as "Dickless in Area 5".

9/12/2006 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New SOS recipe:
Disband, send everyone back to the districts. Reorganize, come up with some positive well-thought management strategies and focus, give it a different name; add knowledgeable supervisors who have some brains to run it and not nitwits.
Next, mix in district "workers" into the newly organized unit, hold the the crybaby daddy/mommy clout kids.

9/12/2006 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard some of this mark vs. unmarked car stuff is a result of a problem with cages fitting properly. Appearntely, the cages won't fit right so they will be replacing some cars that units had as unmarked with cars that will be marked with no 'Mars' bar up on top. Anyone hear something different.

9/12/2006 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I attended the ceremony this morning at the new police memorial park. Wearther sucked but it was awesome to be there, even in the rain.

If you were there too, thanks.

If you weren't, why not?

9/12/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the results of the Sgt's test arent coming out tell next year Daley and phil must be scoring the test themselves and making the neccasary adjustments

9/12/2006 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang/Tact units would love to have the cars of the bosses. They dont need them anyway. And to the detective who claims he needs a take home car...... who are you crappin?????Its always amazed me why Command staff have the best cars to do their shopping and fucking off in whereas the officers in the field have the bottom of the barrell. The only command staff that needs a car are the street deputies...they actually respond in the field...otherwise its a luxury. But its the CPD way.....

9/12/2006 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 9/12/06 at 7:20, the reporter...
If we were able to "send the media on a wild goose chase" it would just show your fellow reportes as not only biased, but Lazy too. If this is the best source Carol has then she needs to hang it up. There are storys all around that we see every day, but you guys miss.

As to coming after this site that would be pretty stupid. You and your fellow leftwardly leaning elitist "reporters" should know that cops are not the second class citizens you treat us as. We as the police still have a first amendment right to free speech, as do all Americans, even those of us that say things that are not politically correct. You and those in your profession should try to keep that in mind when covering subjects that you as a liberal disagree with.

9/12/2006 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
>>>To make it look like there is a strong presence of police out in the streets.<<<<

Today I saw 3 bicycle cops out in Clearing. That's new...


yeah, a few months back there was some in garfield ridge for about 2 weeks straight. mostly they wrote tickets to p/o's personal cars for parking in the street facing the wrong way in the street, they said so their presence could be proven, and people could stop complaining they are never around. well, i had never seen them before that except off duty.

9/13/2006 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

those guys have been on bikes all year in 008 but dont go west of Pulaski. We see them all the time in the 20/30 sector and like idiots they bring in tons of revenue activity to make King Richie proud.

9/13/2006 12:48:00 AM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

Thanks, my bad. should have said 153. WTF is "jerky girl?"

9/13/2006 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>To: 9/12/2006 09:45:39 PM

Are you kidding me?

If you were CPD or any law enforcement type then you know it is a crime to release that info.

Why is it you can post from your employers pc but not use the email act?

Nice try.<<

Actually, the names of people accused of felonies seem to get released to the media pretty much all the time, so I'm not sure where you are coming from here. I doubt any of the 4 is a juvenille, as they should all be out of college.

On the other hand, I'm not asking for people to look up any internal document that they are not authorized to obtain and/or review (i.e., for any non-department related purpose). I understand that THAT particular action could cause a problem.

Nope, just asking if someone has knowledge of this (sorta like all the other "personal" knowledge that gets put out on the site. Alternatively, perhaps one of the reporters who cruise the site can call news affairs and ask.

For the e-mail thing, its because the default email that opens when I try to e-mail as an internal link is Outlook, and Outlook is my work email address. Anything sent from my work email address is automatically stored on several work folders. Outlook (used widely in the private world) is one of those things you probably have to experience to understand what I'm saying.

Anyway, the question will get answered somehow. Publishing the names of accused felons is very specifically not itself a crime, or slander etc. (the truth is the truth).

And if their is anyone who should want these names published, it would be POs. The agg batt charge on the 4 is supposedly for battery to the dicks and POs at the scene of the shooting @ or around 600 W. Washington.

Again, not encouraging anyone to use (or misuse) department resources to obtain the information. But it seems really strange that none of it was published in the media.

9/13/2006 07:21:00 AM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

And if "jerky girl" means a loving wife and outstanding mother who has put up with my bullshit for over 8 years then guilty as charged.

9/13/2006 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Are you kidding me?

If you were CPD or any law enforcement type then you know it is a crime to release that info."

Are you kidding me?

Names can be released as soon as the charges are approved, unless they are juveniles.

9/13/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang/Tact units would love to have the cars of the bosses. They dont need them anyway. And to the detective who claims he needs a take home car...... who are you crappin?????Its always amazed me why Command staff have the best cars to do their shopping and fucking off in whereas the officers in the field have the bottom of the barrell. The only command staff that needs a car are the street deputies...they actually respond in the field...otherwise its a luxury. But its the CPD way.....

9/12/2006 11:43:17 PM


True very true Street dept is the only one that needs a car. Tact lt needs a take home car what a joke that is, if someone could tell me why i would love to hear it, and dont tell if one of his guys get into something he can responded too that is why we have field sgt's,field lt's,capts,dist.comm and that is just in patrol, then det's so forth and so on. And the Street Deputy so stop the bullshit.. the tact lt can drive his personal car to the area and hold his guys hand.

9/13/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey dumb fuck, Cline's kid is a Sgt. You can all bellyache about secret study groups or whatever, but he is not a Lt.

...yet

9/13/2006 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New SOS recipe:
Disband, send everyone back to the districts. Reorganize, come up with some positive well-thought management strategies and focus, give it a different name; add knowledgeable supervisors who have some brains to run it and not nitwits.
Next, mix in district "workers" into the newly organized unit, hold the the crybaby daddy/mommy clout kids.

they already did that, it's called TRU

9/13/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 8:59, you are as soft as they come, and I hope to God you are working a desk or handing out radios somewhere. First off Matt Cline is A Sgt., not a LT, .
Second I m not going to explain to you the necessity of having a COVERT car in a Specialized Unit, because someone with your Ignorance and Education level would never understand why we have them, and it would be a waste of breath to atttempt to explain why.

9/13/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And to the detective who claims he needs a take home car...... who are you crappin?????


No crappin here. Fly straight, I might be watching you...

It sure beats the Area.

9/13/2006 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever had those dumb comments about tickets being written in the west end of 008 by the bike patrol....park your car in the wrong direction and let me know where it is parked and I'll gladly write you a ticket too. I would think most people would comply with the law in that neighborhood, especially p.o.'s

9/13/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous 1st and 16th said...

Anonymous said...

GPS is comming gang.

First unmarked cars, then
city - wide marked cars.
Then wagons (because of out
of district runs).
Finaly marked cars.

18 months from the first instal.

9/12/2006 10:11:37 PM

So whats the big deal?? You will see my squad car sitting in the alley while Im doing a "street stop" for an hour or so, thats just enough time to get a nap in. Collect them checks boys and girls and remember my motto " I aint doing shit".

9/13/2006 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So shut the blog down for a while or realllyy limit what you allow out there. Don't you know that "they" monitor this site and go after the info that is posted here? We are talking about our business in detail! STOP ALREADY!!

9/13/2006 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Reporter,
Do you want a story idea, try this one. Why does the City settle out of court with so many A-holes, and so readily?
There are several possibilities:
1) the city legal team are a bunch of bottom-of-their-law-school-class hacks who are incapable of "lawyering"
2) Richie uses the out of court settlements as a way of laundering tax money into campaign contributions. Lawyer X gets a great settlement, then his firm cuts a fat check to the local democrats...hummm Hey reporter, peak your interest?
If you reporters actually talk to cops rather than shitting on them you would get all sorts of great stories.

9/13/2006 08:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to disgusted in area 5,
there was nothing ethical about leroy martin either.

9/13/2006 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who in there right mind would transfer to 008? it's nothing like it used to be.

9/13/2006 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the fire department has a me too clause. the police dept doesn't. therefore, if we get a larger raise or benefit than fire they will receive the same. if they get a larger raise or benefit than us we will not get it.

9/13/2006 09:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey "Are you Kidding Me?" Your the idiot, you can release info on people CHARGED.

9/13/2006 09:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So whats the big deal?? You will see my squad car sitting in the alley while Im doing a "street stop" for an hour or so, thats just enough time to get a nap in. Collect them checks boys and girls and remember my motto " I aint doing shit".

9/13/2006 07:18:01 PM"

And when the Inspector hits you up for the 3rd time and your co-workers call you on your laziness, maybe you'll quit, retire or take your suspension-but probably you'll just spend your time uselessly driving around. You have no honor. You have no courage. You have no place wearing the star-and you're probably the first to brag about being a "cop." Do you even know how pathetic your life is spending 40 hours a week for 20+ years at something you SUCK at? Quit. Go be a florist or something you'd be good at. Loser.

9/13/2006 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya know, sometimes I think you people should really get a life. You complain about what you do not know. I ahve met Matt Cline at social functions. He is not a bad guy and a stand up copper. I know he got called on the carper when he and his partner had too many beefs. I also know he stood up and told whoever waht they can do with themselves.

I would rather have him for a sergeant than any of you cry babies any day. At least I know what I am getting, some one who has been there and done that.

He is a good guy. If you guys, who do not know him keep disparaging him, he can turn into a bad guy, just like you morons.

9/14/2006 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently, all of you goofs saying that no one needs take home cars has never been at the scene of a police related shooting...yes, even if it's at 0300 hours. I'm not saying that they all should necessarily be there but, beside the street deputy, you'll get: the commander of the officer involved, the commander of the district of occurrence (if different from previously mentioned), the Area Deputy Chief of Patrol, the Det. Div. HGS Lt. (CO), the Area Det. Div. Commander, the Det. Div. Group Deputy Chief. That's the minimum. Also, anytime a member of a specialized unit is injured, the lt. or CO of that specialized unit has to respond to the hospital and/or the scene of the incident. That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a lot more scenarios where bosses need to respond.

9/14/2006 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matt is a pretty good guy but he has hardly " been there done that."

9/14/2006 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BOSSES AT POLICE SHOOTINGS!

I was working the desk at an Area a while back (On duty injury)

Heres the reality of bosses responding to serious stuff.

They are notified then one by one they start calling the Area to see who's coming out. They especially ask is their own boss is coming out, if not, see ya later!!!

To break them of this habit start putting their names on the 101s so they get subpoenaed. Then it's panic time for them cause most don't know how to get to the big grey building at 26/Cal.

9/14/2006 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently, all of you goofs saying that no one needs take home cars has never been at the scene of a police related shooting...yes, even if it's at 0300 hours. I'm not saying that they all should necessarily be there but, beside the street deputy, you'll get: the commander of the officer involved, the commander of the district of occurrence (if different from previously mentioned), the Area Deputy Chief of Patrol, the Det. Div. HGS Lt. (CO), the Area Det. Div. Commander, the Det. Div. Group Deputy Chief. That's the minimum. Also, anytime a member of a specialized unit is injured, the lt. or CO of that specialized unit has to respond to the hospital and/or the scene of the incident. That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a lot more scenarios where bosses need to respond.

Yes I have and its one boss to many. All you need is the watch commander of that dist. and the ads in charge. all you get is a bunch of over paid people flexing thier chest

9/14/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attention FOP!!!

Can you lobby to get us a "me too" clause to match the alderman?

Yeah Baby!! That's what I'm talking about :-) :-)

9/14/2006 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With respect to Matt Cline, admittedly I don't know the young man well. I've spoken with him several times, and you'd never know his dad is the top dog. Never lets it out.

But I do know something of his background, and yeah, he HAS "been there, and done that." Worked in 011. Worked tact for years in 011.
Briefly assigned to the old High Risk Entry Team in Narcotics before he became a Detective in Area 4. How many bosses kids can or are able to say THAT?? How many bosses would even allow their kids to go to a ghetto district??
Or go out on the street unarmed, trying to buy dope?? He's no supercop, for sure, but he is a highly capable officer, and a decent supervisor from what I hear from people who work for and around him in Gangs. If you don't know him, don't make judgements about him or his career, especially when most of you have spent your entire time in PATROL.
While I realize that not everyone can escape the beat car, many of you would be shocked at what is demanded of coppers who work Gangs, Narcotics, and various task forces. Many of you wouldn't go the places they are asked to enter
with TWO guns. Be grateful there are still a relative "handful" of real police out there, or we'd all be screwed!!

9/14/2006 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With respect to Matt Cline, admittedly I don't know the young man well. I've spoken with him several times, and you'd never know his dad is the top dog. Never lets it out.

But I do know something of his background, and yeah, he HAS "been there, and done that." Worked in 011. Worked tact for years in 011.
Briefly assigned to the old High Risk Entry Team in Narcotics before he became a Detective in Area 4. How many bosses kids can or are able to say THAT?? How many bosses would even allow their kids to go to a ghetto district??
Or go out on the street unarmed, trying to buy dope?? He's no supercop, for sure, but he is a highly capable officer, and a decent supervisor from what I hear from people who work for and around him in Gangs. If you don't know him, don't make judgements about him or his career, especially when most of you have spent your entire time in PATROL.
While I realize that not everyone can escape the beat car, many of you would be shocked at what is demanded of coppers who work Gangs, Narcotics, and various task forces. Many of you wouldn't go the places they are asked to enter
with TWO guns. Be grateful there are still a relative "handful" of real police out there, or we'd all be screwed!!

Your kidding right?
There are plenty of people that would love to go to Narcotics and the high risk entry team but their last name isn't a clout-heavy connected one so they never make it, and yes alot of bosses send their kids to the 011,010, 007 so they can say they worked the ghetto before they move them to a unit i.e. narcotics, gangs, sos, tru, it's always been that way, as far as working tac in 011, big deal it's easy to get to tac there when that is your last name and your dad was tac sgt. there and besides, who can't make a pinch in 011? I worked there, it was no big deal, its' all about the court time there, and most coppers WILL spend their entire time in patrol because they don't have juice not because they also aren't good coppers, fact of life. So much for being the backbone of the department.
I'm not trying to rip him, just stating the obvious.
9/14/2006 11:37:14 PM

9/15/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Blogger cpdwoman said...

TO: 11:37:14 PULLLEEESE! I don't know Matt Cline, or how was as a P.O. or is now as a boss, so I won't comment on that. YOU, however, have a lot of nerve to disrespect PATROL officers and imply that MOST of us would be afraid to go where he has been. Wrong!!! MOST of us will never get the OPPORTUNITY to go where he has been. Why??? because MOST of us in PATROL, don't have the PHONE CALL or the FAMILY relationship to go to specialized units. I think there is probably MORE THAN A HANDFUL of real police out there and I can tell by your attitude towards the rest of us, that YOU are not one of them

9/15/2006 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, CPDWoman, but I've gotta disagree with you. True, a lot of officers won't have the opportunity to go where Cline and others have, Narcotics, the OLD
High Risk Entry Team (now SWAT, part of Unit 153, at least for now), Gang Intelligence, various task forces, etc. But a lot of coppers don't seize the opportunities that they have. Most Districts are short of personnel on tact teams...why? Because most officers in those Districts don't want to work tact. Don't want to switch hrs. Don't want to make daily (or, almost daily, depending on what district you work in) arrests. Don't want to go to court. And if you are barely literate enough to write a case report, how are you going to write a search warrant? True, it still takes a phone call to get to 189, but if you haven't done the work, it will show, and if you're incompetent, eventually you'll be run out of there. Not much room there anymore to carry dumbasses and dogs anymore. The Lts. there now have a lot of say so as to who stays, and who doesn't. Anyone who knows Cronin will tell you that he will launch a dogass in a second. So, CPDWoman, while you're waiting for the big opportunity to come to 189, or Gangs, or Prostitution/Vice, or wherever, get on a tact or gang team, and get some skills first.
You'd be surprised how many press for interviews in 189 who have never been an affiant on a warrant, or ever attempted to buy dope on a tact or gang team in a district, or even worked on a team. I concede that Matt Cline was going to come to 189 when he desired to, but he earned his keep while he was there. Call him what you want, he was never a slouch while he worked there as a P/O. The fact is, most of the posters here would rather log on and complain here daily than to go about the process of bettering their skills, and utilizing the opportunities that exist right in front of them, building on them and then moving on to do something else. It's just sooooo much easier to do nothing but whine!

9/16/2006 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact of the matter is, no matter how smart or police savy you are, unless you have a phone call to make you will never get a "spot" in a unit reserved for the special people who have connections on this department. So get real and do what I do. I took this job for the mental diversity. I go out everyday and just do my job "To serve and Protect" any arrest or tickets I write are because it gives me personal satisfaction and maintains personal integrity based on my morals and values. If you expect anything else you are only cheating yourself. Personal integrity is what will keep you off the news stands and rumor mills. I am not jealous because some supervisors kid or some kid who knows somebody gets afforded movement on this job into units that are so called "elite" I feel sorry for them because they are putting their lives in danger for this job! Their ignorance and lack of experience usually leads to thier demise. Look at Cerialli, his supervisors sent and unexperienced kid to his death, they should have known better! I blame his immediate supervisors for his death. Our job is serious and at any time you or I may not make it through the day! My uniform does not make me superman and the laxity i see out there is significant enough to make me worry for people. Sure we took and oath but damnit we are only human not robocop not superman. Why do people/media/bosses treat us as if we are programable robots. My biggest fear is for women on this job. There is a large percentage of them that have such big mouths on the street and think that a redman class in the academy has rendered them invincible. HA HA Or that their partner will back up thier bullshit. Yes it is hard to deal with someone who is m**&^g you and spitting or trying to hurt you but unless you have taken a punch in the face several times you don't know how it feels or what your recovery time is. This department needs to protect its officers with personal protection classes, psycology classes and prepare us to be the police they expect us to be. Do they really think a streaming video is going to change who I am or how I do things? They are just covering thier assses with bullshit. I think as officers if the department isn't going to help us we need to help each other. We have people on this job who have thier masters in a variety of subjects, lawers, teachers, business professionals, etc. How do we expect FOP to do anything when we can't even get along. Lets get people in office that will bypass the political bull and work for us. Our department is slowly crumbling, structurally and morally. Our current FOP is just another political suck up!

9/16/2006 08:39:00 PM  
Blogger cpdwoman said...

To 01:25:02 As I said in my previous post, I don't know M. Cline, haven't worked with him as a P.O. or with him as a boss. I am not criticizing(sp?)him at all.

I have never applied or interviewed for Narcotics and am not "waiting for the big opportunity to come to 189, or Gangs, or Prostitution/Vice, or wherever, get on a tact or gang team." Stop being so presumptuous. I have worked busy districts, units and on tact.

9/16/2006 10:39:00 PM  
Blogger cpdwoman said...

To: 08:39 " My biggest fear is for women on this job. There is a large percentage of them that have such big mouths on the street and think that a redman class in the academy has rendered them invincible. HA HA Or that their partner will back up thier bullshit. " I agree. If you can't finish your own BS, then don't start it. Never put your partner in danger for your ego.

9/16/2006 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD WOMAN: Bitching about the places she can't get to because she's not connected. You don't need to be connected to get your ass to court! Next time you are at 26/Cal, probably you first time there, check and see how many female officers are checked in for court. If it's a normal day the answer will be NONE!

9/17/2006 09:01:00 PM  
Blogger cpdwoman said...

to 09:01:01 I am not bitching. I am happy where I am at. I go to court.You too are presumptious.

9/18/2006 06:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matt Cline is a class act. He worked in 011 and I mean WORKED in 011. He could've gone to some pussy district, but he worked his ass off in the ghetto!! He never has a negative word to say about anyone or anything.

Now the job's changed so much he can't go to the bathroom without some idiot asking him for a time due slip. He's under the microscope to the point that I'm sure he wishes he never took this job, but he never complains.

Going to specialized units this day in age is no picnic. Especially now with the SOS incident. I left both SOS and Narcotics to go back to the district. The worst concept in the department=heavy coppers/supervisors who don't know what the f*$k they're doing.

Anyone bad mouthing Matt Cline doesn't know him. If you do bad mouth him your lucky you're hiding behind your key board. It's hard to believe people can talk about Matt Cline like this.

As far as his father. He's done about as good of a job as one can do. If you don't believe it...wait til the next superintendent comes out and it's Willie or Suzy. Then you'll really have something to complain about.

9/18/2006 07:34:00 PM  

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