Sunday, September 10, 2006

Time to Shut Down the Blog?

HUGE POST: We've been getting quite a few complaints lately. Some about how moderated comments have killed the spontaneity of the Board. Some about how unsubstantiated rumors seem to be making their way into the mainstream media as part of the latest scandal. Others, well, here's a few of them with our commentary added in:
  • You "IDIOTS" are embracing SCC as if he did something courageous by monitoring this site. He did it to save his / her own ass. (we weren't aware that our ass needed saving, but thanks for the heads up!)
  • For months SCC allowed unfounded allegations, racism, rumors, and lies to fester and grow. (for months, we let the blog run itself. We explained it numerous times. We had maybe two hours a day to spend here and we let it run free the rest of the time. Our role was to take out the insane stuff after the fact. That didn't work out so well because cops will be cops and idiots will be idiots)
  • If SCC is "The Police" I'm assuming very young on the job, educated, and really without a social life outside of this site. (let's see - wrong, right and wrong again. With a batting average like that, you could make millions in the major leagues - why are you the police?)
  • SCC has to stay anonymous because as many people who like this site, I'd bet there are just as many who wouldn't mind having a face to face "bar room" talk with SCC. (and wouldn't they be surprised to know that we've been sitting next to them in the bar talking about the site? We've never posted anything we were ashamed of. The fact that anonymous other people have and it stayed up until we could get around with our broom shouldn't have any bearing on what we've done.)
  • Also if SCC is the police SCC would be held accountable by CPD rules and regulations. Meaning the department would surely find rule violations on an ongoing basis. (name the Rule violations please. Seriously. The Rules and Regs of this Department were written in what? The 50's? And amended once since then? They are hopelessly out of date and arcane. The Department keeps them around to screw with people. We aren't doing anything on Department time or property. It's satire, protected speech and humor. The only catch-all charge we could ever remotely think of facing would be "obstructing the goals of the Department" and where have we ever posted anything but legitimate criticism of boneheaded policy? We have tons, and we mean tons, of case law backing our right to still be American citizens off duty.)
  • SCC is NOT a hero, but a coward who hides behind "Anonymous" and the lies and racism of others. (ah, the old "coward" charge. And you make from behind, what else? An "Anonymous" posting. We see it as carrying on a proud tradition of the Chicago Police Department. Maybe you aren't old enough to remember the old SCCN bulletin board? Or even further back "The 025 Gallows"? We remember them both very well kid. We don't hide behind an "anonymous" tag. We use a pen name and everything that gets posted under that pen name is ours. We admit it. We also know there would be career repercussions should we ever step out from behind it and we don't want that at this point. As to the lies and racism, we edited it in the limited number of hours we had.)
  • I will always respond to "an officer needs help call" thats how I was raised on this job. I just wouldnt mind seeing SCC bitched slapped as I arrived on the scene. I would assist, kick the bad guys ass,& lockem up. Then maybe SCC could put some more gossip on the site for the young officers to enjoy. (Nice of you to respond to the assist call, but it's difficult to take you seriously when you wish harm on us, even harm as trivial as a "bitched slap" (and it's a 10-1, not "an officer needs help call" kid) We, too, have responded to every 10-1 call ever broadcast on our zone, but we'd never think of letting an offender complete a battery to PO just because we didn't like what that PO had said to us somewhere along the line. We guess we're just better human beings than you are. And better police officers evidently)
  • PS SCC if you want to look up my IP address and keep it between just the two of us, we probably could have a great face to face discussion. (Gee, thanks, we'll keep it in mind. Schmuck.)
Or how about this one?
  • Remember anyone interested in litigation against SCC he now states in print at the top of his page "saved for blog owner approval"...should be interesting if CPD ever gets tired of this site. (Yeah, it'll be real interesting to see a government agency attempt to shut down a privately run entity protected by the greatest document on the face of the planet. It'll be real interesting counting all the money we'd have after a few years in Federal court.)
Or this:
  • Dear SCC, it has been a fun ride but I think it is now time to end this blog. On Fox32 news the reporter stated that an unnamed source has implicated the four officers in a murder. I think this reporter's unnamed source was some idiot on this blog. (I remember seeing an anonymous post like that a while ago.) (actually, it was probably our post taking the rumor monger to the woodshed and beating the living tar out of him for even suggesting such bullshit. We'd love to see Fox32 having to backtrack on that little story when it comes out that it was from someone who was most likely posting drunk on the Internet.)
  • This site was good when it was coppers beefing about the job, but now reporters and others (IAD, Bosses, Defense Attys, et al...) are using rumors from this site as a legitimate information source. I know that you are going to say that it is their problem and that they could get in trouble for using rumors as fact. (You're right - it's their problem and it's their look out. They want to destroy any modicum of credibility they might have, that's their problem. We remember half a dozen rumors that sprouted up on this board a year ago and 35th Street went into a tailspin trying to track them down. It was hilarious and sad all at the same time. That's what the get for believing everything they read, especially here.)
  • Unfortunately, it is time to end it. This is my last post. I hope you heed this request. The idiots (CPD and non-CPD) have made all of us hardworking coppers look bad long enough. Even with your diligent moderation this site is now hurting us. (Sorry to see you go. You seem to at least attempt to make sense. Thanks for the compliment on the "diligent moderation." We think it's making a difference.)
So what does everyone think? Should we shut it down? We think we've done pretty well keeping up with the comment posting a few times a day and keeping most names that deserve to be kept out of print off the site. Errors will still happen and we continue to invite people to drop us a line when they find something objectionable and needing to be censored in the comments section (our e-mail is in the profile page).

Sarcasm and silliness will still happen, too. And it will probably still happen here.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

No way should you shut this down. People should leave the hate at home and save the beatings for their wives and kids, but this site has most certainly generated reactions from the city and the CPD. Which is good. If they have something to be embarrassed about, the only way they are going to remedy it is if its public.

That is itself the great benefit of the blog. Oh, that and the ability to dispel some fairly serious allegations on occasion.

The 40 or 50% with thought behind it is well worth having to wade through the rest. And at least now the "rest" is more boring than it is crazy hate speech.

9/09/2006 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, so here's my opinion. SCC is like the tabloids. Its there, people talk shit about how terrible, fake and full of crap they are but they still buy them off the rack. Hey, if you don't like the site, here's an idea....stop coming here. Its time all you whining pieces of crap take some responsibility for yourselves (I know it may be unheard of)if you don't like it, leave. For the rest of you who would like to keep coming back for the entertainment value....cheers.

9/09/2006 11:05:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

oh if only we could make the money that the tabloids rake in. damn, that'd be sweet.

9/09/2006 11:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure, the friends of the 4 guys currently sitting in County want you shut down...probably a bunch of people who are crapping their tighty whitey's right now, wondering if they are next to go would like to see this sight go away.

Unfortuneately I know for a fact that piece of crap Frank Main LOVES this place.

We are the po-po. Take the good, take the bad. I say defintiely keep it up, and thanks for giving us a place to amuse ourslves, and drive the bosses crazy with!

9/09/2006 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shut it down .....

9/09/2006 11:19:00 PM  
Blogger Doubter said...

God bless, SCC, and keep up the good work. For a while there were a few who turned the blog into a cesspool, but that wasn't your fault, and now you've fixed it. Too bad we lost some spontaneity, but it's a necessary evil.

You're providing a terrific service, and those who don't like it can go elswhere.

9/09/2006 11:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep it going for the enjoyment of all of us that aren't too computer savvy. It's a fairy tale mind expanding place to daydream of days past and have insight into the future. This is a place to cozy up to people's thoughts without getting wasted in the bar! I find it so much easier to drink directly from the bottle holed up in a room with my computer. Keep it going. We NEED this site.

9/09/2006 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If these fellows are guilty..They deserve no help from anybody who risks their life and defends this city. If they are not guilty then they deserve all of our support. It really is a horrid situation. You cannot believe anything you read.. that is certain. I will reserve my own judgement until some "facts" become available. We can only pray that justice finds her way into this mess.

9/09/2006 11:35:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

And now, breaking news on the SCC Blog and yet another CPD Scandal.

Mayoral Candidate Westcide Dog
The first dog of Clout
by Fran Schnauzer, City Hall Reporter
The Snoop Times

Westcide Dog is a beloved Canine in this city where corruption looms so large. Many say he represents the working class amongst the cops despite his love for obnoxious bow ties, expensive cigars and high maintenance broads.

But now City Hall Reporter Fran Schnauzer sheds light on the pooch.

Westcide was born in a cardboard box in the alley outside of Jimbos in Bridgeport. Out of a litter, only 2 survived.

After that, things are sketchy about his whereabouts until we ran into a pack of dogs heading down the alleyway.

"Sure, we know him. We used to belong to a gang called the Crowns and would wear our leather jackets." [photo of young Westcide]

"He would always tell us, never trust the lighting in the alley if you saw a cute looking Poodle. Because the next thing you know, you wake up in the morning next to some Snaggletooth who you though was a show dog the night before" an anonymous Irish Setter stated.

Then we just lost touch with him.

Part II next week
Vet records show his real name and his brother working for Animal Control

9/09/2006 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear SCC....Im the Smuck your talking about....I remember the Gallows....I have "over " 20 years on the job. The Gallows were a monthly "bullshit" letter. This blog was for the most part a forum of raciism and rumors which went day in and day out unmonitored. YEP I'll admit I wouldnt mind seeing you Bitch Slapped...just one else...YOU created this forum without thought or supervision. The media, bosses, and everyone else out there reads it. Some coppers are hard working , honest, some are dogs, and criminals. You had a responsibility as a forum of which "you approve" to be at the least credible or with merit. My mind is made up regarding the SOS officers their actions, evidence, and accusations speak for themselves.You are just the kid never picked to play on either side of a sports team, the last one there looking at everyone else. I really dont wish you harm as a fellow officer just some common sense in what you do. You have potential, the education is definately there. You just lack common STREET sense. I'll bid your site farewell, not in defeat only in disgust this is what the job has turned into.

9/09/2006 11:39:00 PM  
Blogger kateykakes said...

I hope you do NOT shut the blog down. I may not be from your area, but I do read here every day and learn a lot.

As for the rumors - who cares? They are just RUMORS. They should be taken with a grain of salt. The same thing happens at the local Philly forum I belong to:

I'm not one to beg, but tonight I am - PLEASE do NOT shut down SCC.

One of your many loyal fans,


9/09/2006 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If SCC shuts down, SCC would be giving in to exactly what they have been fighting against!

Remeber the old adage, "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"?

It should of course, be assumed that SCC's visitors are not all PO's. Seeing that this is a fact, SCC has accomplished great things! Keep going!

9/10/2006 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, shut it down for three reasons.

One-If it was you or yours scandal being played out in an open forum like this you would f**king hate it.

Two-It will end badly, someone will commit suicide, or someone will out SCC and he/she will take major heat etc, etc.

Three-Police work is all about keeping your mouth shut, what we see, what we hear should stay between us.

Stop the madness. Shut the site down.

9/10/2006 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Definitely keep the site up!

There are always going to be whiney little sniveling bitches complaining about whatever.

I have found this site to be humorous, gossipy, and informative at times. I will continue to visit this site.

And for any civilain who reads some of these posts and assumes that the proud hard-working men and women of this department are ALL bad, then they are very narrow minded assholes. However, I believe that most people still have faith and respect in us.

I for one appreciate the time and effort you take on keeping up this site especially with the moderations.

Thank you SCC!

Proud to be and always will be.

9/10/2006 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're doing just fine, SCC, and I, for one, really appreciate the blog and the work that you put into it.

As has been suggested before, if certain idiots don't like what they see here, stop reading.

9/10/2006 01:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone wants this site shut down it's the white shirts and Daley. They hate free speech that's ananymous. They hate being called what they are.

9/10/2006 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say keep it up.To the cry babies who say it hurts the "working Police",I say grow up. What they fail to realize is no matter what we do people will hate us. Ever hear the term necessary evil? In regards to the boys from SOS, I'm sorry for what you will be going through in the comming months, but don't blame the blog for your aleged allegations, it seems the city was investigating you long before the blog was born. So to all I say if you don't like it, don't read it, but stop fucking it up for the rest of us, there are enough liberals doing that to everything else. I dont need you to protect me from what I eat, what I read, what I watch, and which gun I can own. I can make my own decisions, Remember that was what this country was founded on.

9/10/2006 02:43:00 AM  
Blogger Murphy40pct said...

Hey "SMUCK" 11:39-I applaud you for finding out how to get this far with your computer skills. One observation for you: you coming on this site and grasping at some non existent point, throwing around playground insults and drooling on the keyboard makes the CPD look bad. YOU, not SCC are what's wrong with this department. Loser.

9/10/2006 02:57:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

Dear SCC....Im the Smuck your talking about....
Hi Schmuck!

I remember the Gallows....I have "over " 20 years on the job. The Gallows were a monthly "bullshit" letter.
And it was a monthly ANOYMOUS bullshit letter - remember? kid?

This blog was for the most part a forum of raciism and rumors which went day in and day out unmonitored.
unmonitored - very good! as in "SCC had NOTHING to do with the site 22 HOURS A FUCKING DAY!

YEP I'll admit I wouldnt mind seeing you Bitch Slapped...just one else...
again, proof positive that you are an ass and a poor excuse for a police officer. thanks for proving our point.

YOU created this forum without thought or supervision.
what? we thought about it a lot. and now we need approval to be American citizens off duty? We aren't allowed to have opinions or web sites or ... Lefty, is this one of your socialist friends again?

The media, bosses, and everyone else out there reads it.
everyone? we better get to selling those ads. advertisers will KILL for numbers like "everyone."

Some coppers are hard working , honest, some are dogs, and criminals.
you MUST be a philosphy major with insight like this

You had a responsibility as a forum of which "you approve" to be at the least credible or with merit.
actually, with an unmoderated board, we didn't. your grasp of "blogging" and "an open unmoderated board" are feeble at best - kind of like your police ethos of wanting us bitch slapped

My mind is made up regarding the SOS officers their actions, evidence, and accusations speak for themselves.
yes the accusations do, but fortunately for the SOS guys, they still have to go before a jury of 12 and go through the process

You are just the kid never picked to play on either side of a sports team, the last one there looking at everyone else.
c'mon now. where are you getting this bullshit? we played many sports thorughtout grade school. we lettered in more than one sport in high school. we didn't have to wait to get picked. we were out there doing it

I really dont wish you harm as a fellow officer
a lie as evidenced by your previous statements above

just some common sense in what you do.
um, you mean like comment moderation? already steps ahead of you Ein-schmuck-stein

You have potential,
thanks dad, can we have that hug now?

the education is definately there.
um, no duh. and didn't you use the "education" card as an insult in your original posting? along with "young" and "no social life"?

You just lack common STREET sense.
good thing we aren't onthe street here then, eh? what does a computer blog have to do with "street sense"? the two are mutually exclusive. you're not making sense again Schmuck. Lay off the hootch.

I'll bid your site farewell,
buh bye now!

not in defeat
yeah right. don't forget to pick up your ass on the way out the door. you dropped it when we handed it to you.

only in disgust this is what the job has turned into.
if you think this site has anything to do with what the job has turned into, you are a sad human being - oh wait, you're already there. Schmuck. If you have more than 5 years on the job, we'd be amazed

9/10/2006 03:01:00 AM  
Blogger Murphy40pct said...

I think the moderated version of the blog is a hundred times better. As it stands the only people who I could imagine would want this shut down are those that don't want the city's dirty laundry known. Someday even Chicago needs some progress-and a forum that makes the clout babies, the criminals, and the dogs in this department cringe brings a smile to my face. Keep up the good work SCC.

9/10/2006 03:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A bunch of rat ...cry baby ...whiners..

Nobody ever talks ..on a blog or along with all you other stupid fuckin wanna bees..
It aint the same..but for a while ..those that stole..kept their mouth shut.those that didnt..knew nothing..
Our disgrace is our our own fault..
If you cant do it right ..dont fuck with it..If you think you know it all and are beyond being caught..then God bles you and may someone who cares..take care of your kids and loved ones..STUPID !!

9/10/2006 04:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc Thank you for being around, because of you/yous (lol) you have inspired other city workers to come out of the thier battered wife syndrome. Dispatchers have a blog now. I know it's not a smoking hot blog site, but with less than 300 of us it's a start, and like the other thousands of anny writers we too are in fear of repercussions, but slowly we are evolving. Cta also started a site. Now those poor folks are really scared of writing. Thank you for having the balls to keep it going.
Majority of us know to read btw the lines and not believe half the crap on here. Personally I believe whoever is suggesting you shut it down is upper management, they don't want all the city workers to air dirty laundry. They don't want the citizens to know what is really going on with OUR tax money.
Keep up the good work, please :)
Remember, united we stand, divided we fall.
Peace to all of you. Love, Squad

9/10/2006 04:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Six and outta here said...

The rules and regs only apply either while on duty, in the performance of duty, or using your office to violate them- campaigning for a candidate as a police officer or wering the uniform, for example.

They do not apply to freedom of expression on your own time. Oh, and SCC is safe. Blogger (Google) will not give out IP addresses with out a court order.

Now, if SCC was known, he could face reprecussions of a more hidious note. Baiscalyy harassment also known as over supervision and other allowed management techniques to make his life miserable.

SCC provides a service. He does a great job. It is the idiots, morons, kiddie cops, and so called super diaper cops with their lack of control that ruin the job and the site. Then there are those who just love to see themselves in print.

Oh, BTW, if you think this site is a disservice, or it is racist or immoral, unethical, and harms you so called police officers, then why don't you get your own site(s)?

Just like work, you are too lazy.

9/10/2006 05:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three-Police work is all about keeping your mouth shut, what we see, what we hear should stay between us.

The stay away from here!!! You are so full of it. No one has ever kept their mouth shut, or do you live a lonely life in a studio apartment with your cat.

There are no and never have been secrets on this job. Lawyers and reporters know more about this job than you and most of us do, and where do they get it? From drunken coppers who tell everyone else to keep their mouth shut.

As to your other drivel, this job is full of rumors, scandals, and what not. Many of us who have real friends know of things before they are even ruomors. It has always been that way, KID.

As to those guys families, and what not. Is it SCCs fault they got into a jam? Did SCC cause their problems? Did SCC do anything other then let you people post rumor and ineuendo here?

Go home, fed your cat, crack open a beer, throw a mini pizza in the micro, and pray some one does not find some juicy tid bit about you to post here.

9/10/2006 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you don't steal money, drugs or guns from the bad guys enjoy your 8 hours of sleep and the eagle shitting every two weeks.

9/10/2006 06:54:00 AM  
Blogger Disgusted in Area Five said...

You should not shut down. It gives the little guy a place to vent and to air our grievances and to identify problems that affect not only us but the citizens of Chicago.

We are currently dealing with the most devious Superintendent of Police in my tenure in Phat Phil.

He provides more meritorious promotions to politicians and heavyweights than any of the previous Superintendents and he is placing the Detective Division right in the middle for taking the blame with his playing games with the homicide rate.

I hope that the Federal government indicts him for his meritorious promotions and the news media, hello Pam Zekman, investigate him for his manipulations of the homicide rate.

My read on our past Superintendents:
Hillard was just plain stupid, Rodriguez was a mooch and a drunk but not an outfit front, and LeRoy Martin was the best of bunch as far as I am concerned.

Keep the blog going....

9/10/2006 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll bet you a dollar to a doughnut that the "shmuck" come's back soon, wimpering, with his tail between his legs like a prodigal son. SCC Save da blog! Hey, I like that! Maybe SCC could market some t-shirts with the slogan, "Save da Blog", or something catchy. I'd love to see hotties Sandra Bullock, or Helen Dewitt, strolling the Oak Street boutiques in Prada jeans and an SCC t-shirt! And the moderated comments seem to keep people on thread devoted to the police business of the day-except for me. Hiccup.

9/10/2006 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 11:39,
AMF!!! Don't let the door hit you on the way out. SCC, please keep this blog up and running.

9/10/2006 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all of the whiners:

The internet is like a remote control for a television, if you don’t like what you are watching either change the channel or turn the television off, if you don’t like the blog then don’t visit the site.

9/10/2006 08:44:00 AM  
Blogger TheHatLives said...

Please keep this site up. It is nice to have an outlet for those of us without clout. This site is for us who have been fucked over by merit bosses who do not know thing one about the job and f**k with people just to show that they can. It is nice to see some of these bosses squirm for a change. As for those of you who do not like the negativity come up with positive things to post, I'm sure SCC will publish them.

I am also old enough to remember and enjoy reading the Gallows.

9/10/2006 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Dont even think about shutting it down. The clout desk bunnies and so called "merit" people dread the light this blog shines on them.

Sorta like cock roaches, they hate the light as well.

9/10/2006 09:24:00 AM  
Blogger Malcolm X's little brother said...

No, this site should not be shut. I think SCC should have shown some more insight to certain comments which appeared, but that is why it is called free speech.

One cannot deny the numerous racist posts which have appeared here, however SCC ("M" to "lefty") is not to blame. Those to blame are the knuckle-headed, European-American idiots who made the comments. I think perhaps a few were typed by non-police personnel.

Yet, one cannot deny the police department is rampant with bigoted European-American officers. Comments made in public (and private) resound this fact. That these comments have appeared here, to be viewed by members of the public, is indeed sad.

In conclusion, no, the site should not be set down. The moderator should be taken to task in some areas, but overall he/she, (no I do not mean a he-she), has done a commendable job. Keep the site in operation.

9/10/2006 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, Keep this blog as it is today. I was getting pretty sick of all those whining lil bastards. We need to stay the course and keep "info" that we all can use pouring in..not the b.s. from those "others". GOOD JOB!

9/10/2006 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC remember the ultimate rule:
Cops will, have and always will fuck things up for other cops. Its just the nature of the beasts

9/10/2006 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every cop I know/work with does not believe most of the stuff in newspapers or elctronic media.
Yet, alot of people beleive every
half assed rumor posted here.

People, get a life! I see this site as a place to have a laugh, bloew off steam and bust balls.

I do beleive that NO police officer's names shoould ever be posted!

As for the SOS situation too many are quick to judge. Yet if they were to be in that postion they would be crying like lttle kids, invoking, "innocent until proven guilty."
We can't have it both ways people.

Finally, if you don't like what you read on the blog turn it off!

Keep the Blog.

Please take a moment and remember the 9/11 vitims.

"Let's be carefull out there."

9/10/2006 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, c'mon now! I know A/5 Det. Schmuck personally and he's a great guy! Wouldn't want him near my wife or daughters, but other than that...

9/10/2006 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hate to tell you but as a public employee, your "freedom of speech" is limited by the dictates of your employment. As a CPD employee, you can be disciplined and even fired for public remarks, i.e., at a CAPS meeting, Police Board meeting, City Council, that impune the reputation of the Dept., (whatever is left of it), defame the Superintendent or other supervisiors, or call into question the policies and practices of the Dept., i.e, the utilization of SOS throughout the City, the manipulation of the homicide rate, the promotion of CAPS programs, etc. As an employee you are expected to and it is demanded of you to respect your supervisors and promote the goals of the Dept. The only time such speech would be protected would be if you were called upon to testify under subpoena or if the topic was one of public concern and not part of your personal agenda.

I agree that anonymous postings are cowardly but I do like everyone else to avoid retribution from the bosses or other PO's - who needs it. On the other hand, bosses are fair game, full names and all, because in their position, they have made themselve "public figures" at least as far as the Dept. is concerned. Same for the SOS-4, Juan Morales, and the Jones Gang.

9/10/2006 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Retired CPD said...

Being retired and living in another state the only info I get on the CPD is from this Blog. Please don't shut down or I'll cry. Seriously , I wake up every morning and grab my first cup of coffee and head straight for the computer to read your Blog. I look forward to this every day so keep it coming I can't wait.

9/10/2006 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope that somewhere somehow when a question is asked in court or in deposition that "i heard it. (Lawyer):Where SCC told me .(Lawyer scum )Who is SCC? A cop, but I don't know who. (Lawyer): I will find out thanks."

9/10/2006 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...LeRoy Martin was the best (superintendent) of (the) bunch as far as I am concerned." - Disgusted in Area 5 at 7:52 AM

Martin, aka Idi Amin Dada, "the Father of ExamScam", was easily the most treacherous, vindictive and corrupt police superintendent in the modern history of the CPD.

Keep up the outstanding work, SCC!

9/10/2006 12:24:00 PM  
Blogger TheHatLives said...

I agree with Malcolm except for one thing, there are also some African American Officers who are just as much of Bigots as some of the White Officers on the Job. Malcolm, one thing I have learned over the years being a Jerk and a bigot is not the property of one race or religion. A jerk is a jerk no matter what the color.

9/10/2006 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW, a lesson on free speech from malcom!

He states he is all for free speech and in the next sentence he basicly says; unless you are a European-American.

Malcon beleives it is all right for him to say what ever he wants, but if I say it I am a racist.

Tanks for clearing that up fpr us Malcom.

9/10/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to clarify a wrongful statement made by someone above: As CPD employees, the Rules and Regs apply to us every minute of every day until you are no longer employed by the CPD. Furloughs, RDO's and even if you are stripped, the rules all still apply!

Don't get jammed up because of someone's ignorance on the internet. Trust me when I tell you that most guys taking big time are doing so for OFF DUTY nonsense. If the guy who posted that the Rules don't apply off duty really believes his own BS, he's going to be one the guys complaining about his 30 days one day soon!

Stay safe and be smart!

9/10/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous M. Seiser said...

Having been a topic of discussion on this blog on numerous occasoins, I can only feel shame when those whom I call co-workers are so spineless and thin-skinned that they would advocate removing from one of our own their most basic right, that of freedom of expression.
We fight at home, while our soldiers fight overseas, to preserve the very freedom that these "police" seek to have removed, simply because they find fault with the intent or content.
Ours is a world which must transcend such juvenile adovcations. The "real police" does not concern himself with the actions of others of which he does not approve, save when he is making the arrest.
When we must take a life in the performance of duty, the "real police" mourns the loss of court, not the public opinion of himself or his actions.
The man who DOES, the man who helps others to DO...He is the "Real police", for he is a man of action.
The man who complains, the man of threats, the critic...his place is among the convict, not the cop. He is the omnipotent coward, who shall never master his own domain, yet seeks to influence others, based entirely on his purported knowledge of matters never demonstrated. He is not fit to be a merit sergeant, much less the police.

9/10/2006 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Long live SCC! I'm sure SCC doesn't like having to read every moronic, mispelled post, but like SCC warned, it was inevitable. The unmoderated post was rapidly becoming a forum for every kook with a computer, Po-po or not, and I, for one, was disgusted with how a good idea can turn bad quickly. I also remember the "Gallows" and how it was "spot on" regarding the foibles, incidents and "personalities" in 25. Sadly, the Gallows deteriorated as time went on, became less amusing, 'til it finally folded. Don't let this blog suffer the same fate!

9/10/2006 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LeRoy Martin was a racist, lie in your face ##@$$, just look at what he did with C.R. Numbers. Black cops almost always got Not Sustained or penalties reduced. White cops on the other hand, almost always Sustained and penalties increased.

Many cops, no matter what the race, did as much as possible to see he did not have a chance when he ran for sheriff.

9/10/2006 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, c'mon now! I know A/5 Det. Schmuck personally and he's a great guy! Wouldn't want him near my wife or daughters, but other than that...

9/10/2006 11:24:50 AM

Det. Schmuck is a great guy on the job and off! My family knows Schmuck very well, and we are proud to say that we have been able to leave him alone with our daughter without problems ever!

Schmuck has soared above and beyond since leaving SVU for the A/5 Gun Team.

9/10/2006 01:35:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

All Hail Seiser!

9/10/2006 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger It's Not All Real said...

Six and outta here said...

The rules and regs only apply either while on duty, in the performance of duty, or using your office to violate them- campaigning for a candidate as a police officer or wering the uniform, for example.

You couldn't be more wrong. As long as you're drawing a paycheck or if you are on a leave of absence, everyone is bound by the rules, good, bad or not.

Examples are rules 8 & 9 and definately rule 15. Rule 15 is the biggest bullshit rule, and should be removed. For those of you who haven't read your rules lately, 15 is you shall not be intoxicated on or OFF duty. Meaning if you get toasted at your brothers wedding, while sitting in your basement watching the Bears, or any other OFF duty incident, you can be jammed up if there is a beef.

Common sense should come into play. Common sense by us not to go stepping into shit, common sense by the department to not expect members to have to live the chaste life of a priest.

Keep the blog up and going please, it serves a good purpose. Just keep the "ole" asshats out of here please.

9/10/2006 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC keep it up otherwise we have to go back to calling rumor central

9/10/2006 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of Subject: Pray for our military. My boys are there now. Bless the USA

9/10/2006 02:28:00 PM  
Blogger 003lifer said...

I agree with the fellow from Area 5 regarding Hillard as being stupid and Cline as being devious.

I also agree that they are playing games with the homicide count.

As for meritorious promotions I for one cannot understand on why Fat Phil promoted Regina Evans to lieutenant. She protected her husband's relative twice for two different murders and on the second one had 4th District personnel report to her house at 0100 to ensure that the suburban police did not enter to arrest the clown.
Also why she allowed to park her limos on residential streets around her house. Why doesn't 022 write them frequently?

9/10/2006 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

remember its not slander if its the truth. As for the rules I have no control what my 8 year old or his friends who happen to come over or my wife or my mistriss when shes out or her boyfriend when I'm writes about police supervisors or policy on some gossip filled web blog the words prove it would come up if ever asked by IAD or a supervisor. So yes I do believe fat phil is a he she cross dresser whos less than legit son deserves to be a Lt. about as much ast Todd Stroger deserves to be Cook Co. president so less pray to the god your choice it doesnt happen. By the way fat phil why so long to grade the Sgt's test how long can it take for you to ADJUST the scores to your and little richies likeing. I hope the honor guard got C.S.'s steroid collection because fat phil is a Big Mac away from a grabber.

9/10/2006 04:37:00 PM  
Anonymous DocMac said...

Please don't shut down. The comments have remained on point since all the petty griping has been "moderated". I retired 5 years ago but remember the Gallows well. It was comic relief for those of us in 025.
As soon as daley was elected mayor, I knew the job would go downhill; I see from this site it's actually dug itself a hole. It's a shame cause it used to be such a fun, crazy job.
SCC, keep up the good work.

9/10/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Follow-up to 11:35 -

Tha courts have consistently held that a police officer's speech is protected if it is comment about public policy (that about which any citizen might comment) as opposed to internal issues or comment that might impede the operation of the agency. So, if you want to stand up at your local beat meeting at say that there are not enough police officers patrolling your beat, that's OK. Saying at that same meeting that Cmdr So-and-so is a two-faced, back-stabbing slut for taking you off your car is likely to get you suspended. If, and it's a big if, the department cares to proceed on the matter. Sometimes it's not in the interests of the agency to do so. With "The Gallows" on everyone's minds, why do you think there was never a concerted effort to identify and punish the producers of it? Because it wasn't worth the effort.

And BTW, based on the present form of SCC, keep it up, "Chicago Parent" be damned. (More like "Chicago - Oak Park and North Shore Suburban - Parent" anyway)

9/10/2006 05:21:00 PM  
Blogger fillmoreranger said...

the gallows like this site served a very usful purpose to give a liitle power to the abused. shines a light on the goldstars abusing the system and the police let it ride

9/10/2006 05:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DISGUSTED IN AREA FIVE??? From this guy's posts I assumed he was just another Cline hater but after reading his opinion of LeRoy Martin it became clear that he is a mental case at worst or an out of touch desk jockey. Probably a little of each.

9/10/2006 06:11:00 PM  
Blogger kateykakes said...

**SCC said...
oh if only we could make the money that the tabloids rake in. damn, that'd be sweet.**

Actually, SCC, you CAN make money from blogs, but there is a lot of adverstising involved, I believe.

I read something about this very subject not long ago, and some people are making a fortune from their blogs.

Personally, I like reading blogs for what they're intended to be and hate all the advertising BS, but if you're thinking about making some cash from it, you might want to start with Google Ads.


9/10/2006 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring back a "City-Wide" Gallows!! We need more gossip and sarcasm now!

9/10/2006 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd air my dirty laundry but there are too many skids that I wouldn't want my neighbors to view. Ugh!

9/10/2006 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there actually is a Det. Schumuck, I would really consider formally changing that last name.

9/10/2006 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Negatory on the schumcksters.

9/10/2006 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hail Seiser!!!

9/10/2006 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please SCC don't consider any advertisements, look at NYPD Rant and all the advertising and pop-ups, we get enough of that when on-line, tv commercials, etc. I know you must be doing this out of love of free speech and not $$$$

Yours truly,

An anonymous friend

9/10/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, whatever happened to all the Hitney remarks? Bring em back.

9/10/2006 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep your site going. If somebody doesn't like what they read on your blog, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Mayor Daley, are you going to wait 2,3 or 4 years to settle on our shitty contract this year? I bet you've got all the money you made in interest from our money hidden in your walls and matress in your summer home in Michigan.

9/10/2006 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is (was) a copper named Ronald Schmuck

9/10/2006 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go ahead and shut it down.
I used to get a laugh from the dating prowess of Northside and Tyrone. The weirdness of some bosses and the crap they pulled, etc. Now I see someone is telling us about the wonderful seatbelt missions. I can't stay awake long enough to read this old lady dribble.

9/11/2006 05:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leroy Martin? Are u f*cking kidding? He was neck deep in the Rick Miller scandal, and almost went to the joint on that one. Dont u remember his chest pains and the hospital trip the weekend he thought the G was going to take him into custody? This is worthy of a blog of its own.

Yes SCC, thanku for being here;dont shut down. Like the old "GALLOWS"(thanks Jimmy, Larry, and u 2 Ricky), it gives us unconnected, no juice patrolscum a place to opine, and put light on the things our union is suppose to be doing!!!!!!!

9/11/2006 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trust me, the big bosses could not care less what is said in this blog. They are a little too busy to listen to a bunch of cry babies whine. If the media is reading this to get insite and scoops well then lets make up a big scandle and get a good rumor going just to see what idiot reporter comes up with the story first and then tell all his competitors about his mistake.

9/11/2006 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the poster who said this site is hurting us. I think the free speech part is great but others (non CPD) are reading this and I hope it doesn't come back to bite us. I mean we know what is good and what is bullshit on this site, but others don't and a news story on this stuff would look very bad. I know, I know...the media can make anything look bad, it's just that I think we should keep our hilarious comments confined amongst ourselves at the bar or the bathroom stall.

9/11/2006 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no idea if Martin was a racist I do know that he was suppoesely going to be indicted through info from LEO's and the news media until he came down with cancer, along with former CPD Lt. Dvorak who did get and indicted and I believe is still in prison. And the Taylor Street OCD crew really liked and supported LeRoy for Sheriff I wonder why?

9/11/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shut it down, its too addictive....

9/11/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shut this bullshit site down or require a valid email address at the end of each post, so the pussies can be tracked and delt with.

9/11/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

M. Seiser runs it!!!!

9/11/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger coldtype said...

Surely you're not serious. Under the new moderated format some posters will fall off but most probably will not. And if they do? So what? They will soon be replaced.

This blog is a cross-section of the CPD folks. The stupid, the profane, the intelligent, and the brave all rolled into a rich gumbo I'm proud to be a part of. There is nothing wrong with fierce, no-holds-barred debate. Those lacking the intellectual firepower to present rational arguments will be exposed as lightweights by their own words. I see no cause for undue concern.

This is a great place for us to blow off steam. Pushing and shoving should be allowed. Having said that I realize that a moderated format may be just the thing to smooth the rough edges a bit. Allowing commentary that may be actionable would be foolishly irresponsible on your part SCC, you were right to step in. But there should be no question in your mind(s) as to the value of this service you provide. The malcontents will either shape up or return to their comic books. Keep it going. I look forward to disagreeing with you in the future. Stay safe.

9/11/2006 04:38:00 PM  
Blogger 025 Gallows (retired) said...

Please don't shut down this website. If you do they win, we lose. I did the Gallows for more than 3 years until the department forced me to retire against my will. They spent years as well as an untold amount of money doing surveillances on me as well as my family. IAD used to steal my garbage. IAD used to have a picture of me posted in their ofice with my miidle fingers raised as I was leaving my house. With freedom of speech the department so afraid. Keep up the good work, I'm proud of you guys.

9/11/2006 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are all adults and we(should) have enough sense to be able to deal with everything that is posted on this site, if you can't deal with it then don't come on the site! If you believe everything that your read or hear, I have a bridge to sell you. If you are so sensitive to comments, be gone! Don't be a BENLADEN! WE are in AMERICA THE LAND OF THE FREE! We should be able to say whatever, whenever and about whomever!!!!I don't like everything people say but so what such is life, people don't always like everything I have to say. DON'T BE SELL OUTS, DON'T SHUT DOWN THIS BLOG!!!!If nothing else this scc is amusing of course at the expense of others but oh well such is life!!!

9/11/2006 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a guy in the crime lab (or there was) named Kaputz

9/11/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Blogger Sabian said...

Keep the blog rolling. It's fun, it's American, it's raw, it's REAL!!!!!!!!

Only those who wear their shorts too tight have a problem here.

9/12/2006 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/11/2006 11:12:24 PM
There is a guy in the crime lab (or there was) named Kaputz



There used to be two partners in 011 named Smith & Wesson.

9/12/2006 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are right about Rodriguez who was a drunk and had his administration guided by "da guys". Hillard was just plaim stupid. But I know your kidding about LeRoy Martin. He was to be indited for his crimes by a Milwaukee Federal Grand Jury for his dope dealing crimes along with "Rick" Miller. It was heard in Milwaukee for the purpose of secretcy
The indictment was put on hold, apparently forever by the CLINTON AMINISTRATION, who else.

9/12/2006 02:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, it is time to shut this blog down...or at least time for a very long vacation. Way too many outsiders are monitoring comments about our own. The practice of using initials instead of names is also harmful. Think back over the years of rumors that never happened...almost all of them are b.s. We have turned from having a few laughs to feeding the enemy. we have become our own enemy with the bitching and name calling not to mention name naming. This blog should be put to rest for a while.

9/12/2006 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The blog is good and whoever runs SCC does an excellent job. I take it he's a cop, but very professional!!

9/12/2006 05:02:00 PM  

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