what ever happened with keeping your mouth shut people. all of you should listen to yourselves and the crazy stuff you say. We need to all not pass judgement and start to support each other better. and that means off duty also. Remember that things can go full circle.
Four police officers arrested TODAY!!! The supervising Lt. re-assigned? Looks like it will stop at the Sgt. level. How much time do you think it will take for one these guys to start talking? I heard last night that 4 were stripped. I'm assuming that these 4 today are the same one's. Oh yea SCC, Channel 7 showed the names of the officers. Based on the charges, there are NO charges of THEFT, only Armed Violence, Kidnapping, Delivery of a Controlled Substance. Maybe more are to follow.
I feel bad for their families because it will just about bankrupt all of them for the legal defense.
All you young coppers out there I hope you really look hard at this not only are these guys looking to go to jail for at least 30 years but their families now have to go on and survive probably losing their homes and any savings they had for what a couple grand.
Be careful and slap the next copper you see doing something this stupid.
Hey SCC, you really should find a better way to do this delayed postings. Why did you do away w/ real time postings? I the same person keeps posting bullshit then I'm sure you can find out who it is and put some kind of blocker on his IP address. I like the site but you LOST A WHOLE LOT w/ this delayed posting policy you have now.
I hope they post bail then after their trails go the the pen. THEY GONE. Fuck them for giving us as Police Officers a black eye. Less then 5% of the Department ruin it for the rest. That 5% do not deserve or loyalty, or protection. These were not aggressive police mistakes. They are THIEVES plain and simple. Not any better than a burglar, or the stick up man. FUCK'EM.
In an unrelated subject: I HUGE hats off to bt 1813 midnights for ignoring a fellow brethen in need after said brethen was nearly jumped and robbed and after said brethen grabbed one offender for burglary to auto. Not only did these dogs push off the paper and not show an once of compassion for a fellow brother, but they questioned the motives of a guy just trying to walk home when 4 animals approached tried to take his wallet and nearly jumped him.
Sometimes there comes a time when I am so sickened by the lack of comraderie and the lack of loyalty. Thanks to beat 1812 for having the balls to pick up the pieces and at least help the officer get a ride home.
and to the POS LT who thinks that an off duty pulls his gun when hes in fear of his life is wrong and should be punished.....shame on you for never working a day in your life.
Guys if we dont have each other, who the hell do we have.
I know many are thinking they have whats coming to them, however, stop and look what they are being charged with: Burglary / Home Invasion, Aggravated Kidnapping, Armed violence...If any of you REAL police EVER stopped someone and put them in your car-YOU TOO could be charged with Aggravated Kidnapping, and Armed Violence. Ever get a consent to search,then get a beef saying you forced them to sign it because you recovered illegal drugs in the house? Then you too could get charged with burglary / Home Invasion. Be careful of who you throw stones at (that is unless you live in a glass house). I am NOT condoning theft, but let's look at the big picture here.
The hammer is going to fall alright, right on all of us. Do not think for one minute that there is not a lot of POd bosses at 35th Street right now.
All you people better get a reality check. They are going to monitor the hell out of all of us for the short comings of a few. That is how they not only correct problems, but prevent them in the future. A cold wind is gonna blow, so get out the parkas.
Better start acting like the police instead of the TV or movie police. Better stop with the whining, crying, and moaning. Save it for your porn movies.
Better start doing the things you are supposed to do everday. There are no supercops. Good cops do what has to be done everyday- no matter how trivial. Ordinary cops think they are special. The worse thing in life is to be ordinary.
It's easy to Monday morning quarterback. I wish the best for these guys. Whether they did it or not. The CPD should make church mandatory on Sundays instead of car inspections or weapon inspections on Wednesdays.
JF, TS, CS and CH, all the best and God bless your families!!
Do the rest of the boys feel the weight of this scandal? I know I do. This is gonna be a tough one to shed. Everytime you go into someones house for anything, the trust will be gone.
S.O.S. today.... and soon the big judge's hammer will be on those in OCD/Prostitution. Ths is going to be a mess.
Not sure if I can afford to purchase this many raffle and benefit tickets for everyone who is going to be locked up.
My Question is the news is referring to S.O.S. as an "ELITE UNIT" or "Son's of Supervisors" but what will the news call the Prostitution Unit when that news breaks? Drunken Female Hoe Police Officers working as Undercover Drunken Hoes?
I have a feeling that from now until at least the end of the year, the media/news are going to be hammer the police department. Let us wait and see.
it's too bad that the police are guilty until proven innocent as opposed to the criminals; even with our own superintendent. and its even more tragic that a former fellow sos officer, j.g., is co-operating with the state's attorneys' office to bring down his partners because of his own indistregtion about the car theft of his own vehicle. will we ever learn????
7:55 you are a complete moron..ever put someone in your car? ever get a consent to search? you fool you are comparing apples to oranges. the two examples you wrote were the act of doing good police work.....not stealing thousands of dollars...these guys are criminals dont make excuses for them idiot. your examples are horrible!
maybe they will get the same judges that have let so many people go on similar charges. if the judges were as hard on the true criminals as i know they will be on these guys because they are in the spotlight, the moral may not be so low in the department. if this was someone in cabrini green, there would be protests out there saying they are innocent, where is the innocent until proven guilty for these guys. also shame on the investigators who let it go for so long, one felony would be good enough to get them fired. how irresponsible to let them continue to do something wrong if they truly believed it. they should be charged as accomplices then.
i knew k.h. and i used to always see him at 26th and cal. its ashamed he seemed like a good guy. he must have been overcame by peer pressure. im sure he is going to regret this one for the rest of his life.
Everyone be mindfull of what you say. These guys got family and loved ones and they might read this site. ALl of this department must be honest with themself and realize why they took this job in the first place. It could not of been for the money. Things need to change in this big family. People need to lose their egos and look out for one another. On duty and Off duty.
I think Dan Web will defend them PRO BONO. Yea right you fucken idiot !
Second I will address Post 08:18:28
There never was nor will there ever be any indictments in the prostitution unit. They have nothing on them and they never were investigating them. So take your rumors and stick them up your non informed ass. Get this , you will never see anything on this subject.it's over before it started.
THIS CASE SOUNDS LIKE THE OLD MARIO MORALES CASE FROM THE 24TH DISTRICT. HE GOT 24 YEARS FOR EXTORSION AND HOMEINVASION/STEALING DRUGS AND CASH! IT HAPPENS EVERY COUPLE YEARS....CRIME DOESNT PAY BOYZ! WORK HARD EARN YOUR HOURS, WORK YOUR SIDES , DO DEFERRED COMP AND PRAY YOU COLLECT A PENSION.
"I for one am absolutely shocked and mortified to have learned that one of the 4 arrested today was C.S."
I'm not. A great career? If you got the hook up...
Known him since the academy. Bragged about being hired early and out of SS# sequence because of the hook up. One of the most arrogant and condescending people I've met on this job. And his policing skills are average. It's amazing how 3 months of hard lifting in your early 20's will add 50 pounds of muscle to your frame! My favorite was the night he was wandering around Dugans showing random women his cock piercing. It may come in handy soon. Surprised? please...
It is a sad day for the Chicago Police Department and the Special Operations Section. I know all of these officers, some I like some I dislike, but they were all the working police at one time. My prayers go out to all of the families of these officers, as well as the officers themselves. We can all ask for justice, if they're charged, and mercy if they are found guilty. The only person we know for sure made it to heaven is St. Dismis, the "Good Thief", and that was because he asked for forgiveness. Carl, yours hurt me personally because of he way you befriended my son, and how much he respected you, you are in my prayers. Jerry, I have know you for many, many years. Back from the original days of the Flying Squad and was with you and Jimmy S, when you recovered 10 guns from Presidential Towers. I will think of the good things you have accomplished. God Bless you, and stay strong...Look around you, watch each others backs. You are all in there, and make sure all three get out. I always trusted you when you had my back on the street. God Bless. Let ye who have not sinned cast the first stonel
OK Laura, If you are going to stretch a verbal arguement with someone that doesn't share your views from 7+ years ago, to current day and call them a "RAT", you really should do your homework. Give it up...I think you post things just to see your work in print.
To bad innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to the police even by the police!! Those of you should be ashamed of yourselves, unless you were there, and then and only then can you talk!!!!!
Word is... and yes if was from a friend of a friend...but going to post it anyhow... In regard to the prostitution investigation, that one female formerly assigned there is currently cooperating. Word is she got her move out of there towards the end of the investigation and was nicely rewarded for wearing an under"wire" bra which recorded very incriminating conversations of her coworkers. Maybe explains why one letter of intent of immunity was already issued? Sounds like she really was an undercover FBI angel! A few friends I know in OCD have conveyed a certain female's name that was recently rewarded and moved. So this maybe be very accurate information.
Old Santa Claus Phil is making his list and checking it twice. I guess no one from SOS will be on it. We do know who will be on Santa's Meritorious Lt. list. Mattie Cline.
I hope Fr.Tom will get over and see the guys (in the lockup) and their folks. Some of these guys are likely to eat the wrong end of the sig. I pray for everyone involved in any way. They will try to make an example of these guys to teach the young (coppers) some religon.
U gotta' love the guy who blames the investigators for letting this thing escalate! He says they should be tried as accomplices? Sometimes the investigator makes the recommendation, and the case gets buried by clout. The only constant in this is CLOUT never gets called on the carpet. This multitude of CR numbers over the years have to go thru a chain of command including the accused's own C/O and the 1st Dep. and SUPERINTENDENT. If you have 3 CR's in a year, you go on a list of candidates for Personnel Concern. Who makes the decision if bad boy or girl gets put on that list? THE C/O once again!!!! Or the admin. at IA or OPS. So, where do we point the finger in the blame game? One self, one's partner, one's boss? I think you should all put that finger it in your ass, sleep on it and smell it in the morning. 10 times outta' 10 it'll smell like shit, but 9 outta' 10 will swear it smells like a rose! BLAME THE FUCKING BOSSES WHO HAVE BEEN YES MEN FROM THE GET GO COMPLETS WITH WORN OUT KNEE PADS AND CHAPPED LIPS. THEY HAVE COVERED THIS SHIT FOR YEARS AND WILL NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. TURN THOSE FILES AT IAD AND OPS INSIDE OUT AND LET ALL COVER UPS COME TO LIGHT. PHILLY IS NO EXCEPTION. DIDN'T HE SAVE A DRUNK RECRUIT HIS JOB BECAUSE SAID RECRUIT WAS HIS NABOR?? I GUESS SOME OLD TIMERS CALL THAT BEING BLUE OR PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. PLAIN AND SIMPLE IT'S CRONYISM, FAVORITISM AND COMPLETE BULL SHIT!
wait and see what the dollar amounts taken are...that will put the doubts to rest. remember this is a two year investigation they don't devote those man hours to a west side bullshit beef. they get everything they deserve
hummmm let's see. white police... political election season...
If anyone out there thinks that they are immune from this type of prosecutorial misconduct, then you better inventory more of that sh'' instead of smoking it.
Anyone that puts a bad word out here regarding any of these officers is worse then any sh''head I've ever arrested. You have no honor!
Our constitutional rights are just as improtant as criminals and you and Phil should learn to maintain the perception that you care about your fellow officers.
This site makes me sick. SCC you should moderate better to at least give our department a fighting chance.
I was sickened again as Ch-5 reported the charges against these members of an "elite" unit, however, felt much better when she explained how SOS stood for "Sons Of Supervisors". Hat tip to Carol M.
Peer pressure? what, are we in grammar school? We took an oath and are expected to carry through with that oath no matter what. I have never had a problem pointing out someones wrongdoing for the simple fact that i have to sleep at night. we are sworn to protect others from criminals not become them. If they are guilty then let them hang but if they are innocent they should sue the hell out of this city and move to a nice quiet town where they can laugh at the rest of us. Either way i hope that the truth comes out but peer pressure is no reason to become a criminal. PERIOD!
I hope the feds come in and finish what IAD started, because this is the tip of the iceberg in this department. Until the political B.S. stops and the professional, honest, moral police officers (with no political connections) are recognized and rewarded for their good, moral, and ethical police work, this crap will continue. Every other department in America (and the Chicago Suburbs) praise honest professional police officers. But not C.P.D!! Only crooked political f%$#s get any opportunity at SOS or SWAT, or any other decent unit for that matter. Any honest P.O. who want's to do his/her job and have opportunities should leave C.P.D. if they can. Let the dogs, political hacks, dishonest, corrupt cops, run this city, since everyone from the Mayor to Cline on down to the Sgt's condone this by allowing this shit to continue (political clout promotions and appointments etc; etc.). These crooked s.o.b.'s arrested today can rot in IDOC for all I care. We'll all be looking at their picture on the IDOC web-site in about 2 years, serving time at Pontiac or Menard, with a projected parole date of 2030. Listen people, they became the evil that we fight every day. When you plant shit on people, lie in your reports, beat people for no reason, steal, pilage, and plunder, you are no better than the criminals in the street. You have become what they are. If you are crooked, then go to church or do something to better yourself. Don't bring shame upon yourself, your family, and this department. Don't bitch about the "savages" in the street when you are a savage yourself. The "G" needs to take over this City and clean the "machine" out, because the corruption in Chicago is just unreal.
For any incident, arising from the performance of a police function which occurs while the officer is on or off duty, the FOP Legal Defense Committee (LDC) will provide legal coverage and representation, including referral to an attorney approved by the FOP and payment for attorney’s fees and costs, for administration or judicial proceedings, including criminal proceedings.
They will not be covered by FOP because they were charged criminally while in the performance of there job.They would have to go in front of the criminal defense committee and plead their case in front of the board members and they will never approve counsel for them too much money for criminal lawyers.But C.S's mom does work there so lets see what happens!!!!!
They absolutely DO NOT GET FOP REPRESENTATION. The union does not look at a criminal act as in the performance of your duty. The above poster said it right get the check book out. Whether they did it or not would you want our union representing you when you are on trial for a significant amount of time? I know I wouldn't.
They will not be covered by FOP because they were charged criminally while in the performance of there job.They would have to go in front of the criminal defense committee and plead their case in front of the board members and they will never approve counsel for them too much money for criminal lawyers.But C.S's mom does work there so lets see what happens!!!!!
This is sad day as 4 of our own have been arrested. First let us afford them the same right of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Second, keep their families in mind at this time of personal crisis and grief. I hope that they will be allowed to bond out and be afforded time to prepare for their trials. That said if they are in fact guilty, then justice needs to be done. Plain and simple. All to often we we are quick to drag their names through the dirt without looking in the mirror first. Remember none of us who really works the street is 100% legit all the time. There are alot of gray areas in police work that are not taught in the academy. Remember that before you start throwing stones. I'm not advicating the behavior that has ALLEDGED to have occurred, but wishing we all just show some support for our fellow officers, until proven otherwise. It's gonna be tough all around the dept. now. Especially since the media is all over this case, as are all the attornies. In my experience this to shall pass. To all the youger guys and gals, slow down for alittle while. Do your work, but do not put yourself in any situation that may "jam" you up. You have a long careers ahead of you.There is nothing to prove to the veteran officers, let alone the bosses on this job. Go to work, have fun everyday, and MAKE IT to retirement. Then of course leave this dump of city behind you. Stay safe BROTHERS, and God Bless all of you.
I'm tired of hearing SOS, Tact & Gang teams, etc; refered to as "elite units." Any clown with clout can get into one of these units. They can get in with no knowledge of basic police procedure, tactical skills, ethics, or anything else positive regarding the police profession. Only a phone call is needed in CPD. I once heard that clown Mauer refer to Tru as an elite unit before he retired, comparing them to the 101st Airborne Div. I wanted to puke!!! Does he have any idea what the 101st did on D-Day and since then in other wars and conflicts?? Did that loud mouth ever serve in the U.S. military? He and the media have no idea of what an elite unit is. Now, if you want to talk about the hero elite units (101st Airborn, Marines, SEALS, Rangers and so on) serving our country, those are elite units. Soldiers and Marines our dying for our country every day, and brave police officers are dying in this country on an average of one every other day. And yet, 4 corrupt CPD officers have contributed to the already bad image of CPD seen across the U.S. by getting arrested today! SOS is not elite at all, they are a disgrace. Turn on the news and see the real elite warriors fighting and dying to keep this country free and safe. May all of the honest & ethical police officers in CPD stay safe and healthy, and may the corrupt be taken down and removed from this department.
These guys should have reset their passwords on the CLEAR system..... They would have been able to get their court notifications. It pays to use the CLEAR system!!!!
...Once they act criminally, you can throw out the ridiculous assertation that they were "acting as police officers." Screw 'em. How many of you have locked up a mutt and said, "Well, he isn't guilty until proven so in a court of law." Come on, you know better. These idiots give us all a black eye. If they each only get 30 years....they should count their blessings. Any working copper out there has had the ASA refuse charges on a "rock solid" case for bullshit reasons. If the state approved these charges....can you even begin to imagine how "rock solid" this case must be. I won't be buying any benefit tickets.
To da comment "Their Are No Super Cops". yes their are. and damn good ones they are. while the rest of the 80% lazy, dog, do nothing, laying down on jobs, looking the other way, not backing up fellow brothers in blue, hee haw, stupid poleeze are sitting on their hands, those 20% super cops are out their humping, cleaning up the streets and doing their job. Same coppers in the station on arrests. Same coppers in court. do the math!
My Question is the news is referring to S.O.S. as an "ELITE UNIT" or "Son's of Supervisors" but what will the news call the Prostitution Unit when that news breaks? Drunken Female Hoe Police Officers working as Undercover Drunken Hoes?
----------------------------------- Now I know who is spreading all those awful untrue rumors about those Prostitution officers. It was a married copper who a couple of months got caught trying to pick up one of those "Drunken Female Hoe Police Officers."
He obviously wasn't a very good cop because he thought that the P.O. was really a HOE. I heard the only way he stayed out of jail was crying and whining about how he was going to lose his job and how he could never look at his wife and kids in the eyes again if he got arrested.
Happy ending, though, he wasn't arrested and now likes to spread juicy rumors on this blog. I wonder what unit will catch him doing something illegal next? Beware it could be yours....
The hammer is going to fall alright, right on all of us. Do not think for one minute that there is not a lot of POd bosses at 35th Street right now.
All you people better get a reality check. They are going to monitor the hell out of all of us for the short comings of a few. That is how they not only correct problems, but prevent them in the future. A cold wind is gonna blow, so get out the parkas.
Better start acting like the police instead of the TV or movie police. Better stop with the whining, crying, and moaning. Save it for your porn movies.
Better start doing the things you are supposed to do everday. There are no supercops. Good cops do what has to be done everyday- no matter how trivial. Ordinary cops think they are special. The worse thing in life is to be ordinary.
"One of the most arrogant and condescending people I've met on this job." by 10:53 regarding C.S.
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On the contrary. C.S. has NO self esteem, is a follower and has had a really hard life. I feel very badly for the poor decisions he allegedly made. I use the word "allegedly" though I know in my heart he did wrong. I am a little older than C.S., but still hung around with him growing up. He was always such a nice kid, always seeking the approval of others. It's hard to learn that he has "allegedly" done such horrible things. I really am sad to see him ruin his life. He could have been so much more. God bless.
But, J.F.---there's the most arrogant person I've met on this job. Still, I wish the best for his family.
All you guys talk about clout. Well here is something you may not know and it has been going on since before we got the so called union contract. FOP, depending on who you talk to, gets between fifteen and twenty spots a year. They can recomend people to go to the units of their choice. So your own union has been selling you out through the back door.
Now, one the those SOS guys mom has been a long time FOP employee. How do you think he got to SOS?
Maybe that is why the so called union has always been so dead set against bidding to all, and I mean all, specialized units.
Hey, when's the benefit? Fuck J.F. & his whole crew! And if he has any friends, FUCK THEM TOO!
9/07/2006 05:08:48 PM
Now hold on there. We do not give money and go to benefits because of our personal opinions regarding the individuals. We do it for two reasons: 1.) They need our help and their families should bear as little of the financial burden of their mistakes as possible. It is the right thing to do. I hate what these guys did, and IF, and only IF they are found guilty, criminally and/or administravely, I hope they get the max. But I will give money to help them
2.) The second, and most important reason to give, Officer FUCK THEM TOO!, is it could be you or me. How would you like to be in their shoes and facing the loss of everything? How would you like to have your family lose the house, cars, and verything else? We give because anyone of us could be put in a situation where we wind up on the wrong side, whether the accusations are true or false. BTW, beating a case costs just as much as losing. Their legal fees are going to be astrnomical and we owe it to each other to pitch in.
Everyone hated Majenowski, even his own coworkers. Here is something you may not know. When his troubles started and very early on it looked as if he was going down and lose everything some anonymous donor came forward and paid for his kid's high school tuition.
So, MR FUCK THEM TOO!, I hope YOU never get in trouble and I hope I never find out who you are. Cause, I will be all over every blog saying FUCK HIM!
Have you noticed that alot of unmarked cars are now almost fully marked? Marked car w/o light bar. The Dept. is going to take away as many unmarked veh's as they can because of accountability. I heard that ALL Det's cars are going to be like this as well along w/ Tact and Gang Teams. This is compliments of SOS.
After reading these comments and noticing how some of the posters say
"We need to all not pass judgement and start to support each other better"
"I feel bad for their families because it will just about bankrupt all of them for the legal defense"
"he must have been overcame by peer pressure. im sure he is going to regret this one for the rest of his life"
"Everyone be mindfull of what you say. These guys got family and loved ones and they might read this site"
"My prayers go out to all of the families of these officers, as well as the officers themselves. We can all ask for justice, if they're charged, and mercy if they are found guilty"
"I hope Fr.Tom will get over and see the guys (in the lockup) and their folks"
"silly question but are they going to have fop representation?"
"We have all done some things we are sorry for. Never past judgment on someone unless you judge yourself."
"This is sad day as 4 of our own have been arrested. First let us afford them the same right of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Second, keep their families in mind at this time of personal crisis and grief. I hope that they will be allowed to bond out and be afforded time to prepare for their trials."
"To the SOS guys familes you are in my prayers and thoughts. You are innocent and need the support of the police family"
After reading these comments all I can say to the posters you are a bunch of ASSHOLES.
Was any of these sad comments made when the guys from 007th district got locked up and charged? HELL NO, so just because they're from SOS and white that they deserve this sympathy, FUCK NO so FUCK THEM.
So either be sad for all of the coppers locked up or be sad for none.
why are people on this blog talking about C.S. Mother! She is a great woman who was extremely proud of her son! The families should not be discredited because of this! By the way to the moron who was jealous of C.S he has worked out for many years not 3 months just because your obviously a fat slob don't cast stomes!!
Don't be quick to judge these guys. If you enter a house without a warrant while your partners detain the mope against his will you have committed armed violence, kidnaping, and home invasion if someone was in the house. If the mope beefs on you and says you took 20k he saved since he was 10 now you committed burglary. I am sure they did some thing very wrong but read between the lines. Another problem is that I sift thru dozens of rap sheets every night 10 to 20 pages with everything from murder to criminal sexual assault but they get a bond, bet the house these guys don't and it is their first arrest. just something to think about. Remember them in your prayers.
WOW HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN IVE BEEN LOCKING UP PEOPLE FOR YEARS. IVE SEEN THE QUALITY ARRESTS THESE GUYS MAKE. IVE ALWAYS ASSUMED IT WAS DOING POLICE WORK THAT MOTIVATED THEM AS IT IS FOR ME. I WONDER IF PRESSURE TO PRODUCE FACTORED IN HERE. I THINK ILL TURN INTO A DO NOTHING FORM NOW ON I WOULDNT WANT POLICE WORK MISCONSTRUED FOR SOMTHING ELSE. I WAS IN SHOCK WHEN THE NEWS SHOWED SOME OF THESE GUYS BIENG WALKED INTO THE COURT HOUSE IN HANDCUFFS. A TERRIBLE THING. I STILL DONT BELIEVE IT.
You are a dickhead! If you think politics/clout isn't in play with the 'burbs, state, or even the feds you are a moron!
Politics/clout in the private sector is called networking.
I've been in two "units," each time being brought in by a sgt. that I had worked for else where. I do the job asked of me, I do it well enough to keep the boss happy and I keep my mouth shut.
On this board a lot of people claim that all of the clout babies aren't worth crap as the police. If that is true then how is all of the GOOD police work getting done? This is the reason that anyone that works, and most importtantly keeps his trap shut and not worry about what the other guy is up to, can find a GOOD spot in the dept.
The bras always need people that can get the job done.
I wonder what the other (5) five are doing? HHHHmmmmm???? Do ya think they were the weakest link and broke em' to solidify their case? Who ratted on who? Who saved their own ass at the expense of fucking their comrades in crime? You call them "Turncoats", "Rats","Canaries", "Stool Pigeons", etc... They are the worst amongst criminals. They do the crime with their bretheren and when it's time to do the time, they start breaken'. At least their used to be honor among criminals but those guys should have known much better. "There is no honor among theives!".
In response to 12:06:03 a.m.; You are wrong. There are working police who ARE 100% legit. Just, because you may not know the law, general orders, and criminal procedure, don't assume other working officers don't. There are working officers who are by the book and make good arrests every day.
Anonymous said... I for one am absolutely shocked and mortified to have learned that one of the 4 arrested today was C.S.
I've known him for a very, very long time and I NEVER in my wildest dreams thought he would ever be involved in something like this.
I guess it just goes to show you that you never really know someone.
What a waste of a great career and a life.
9/07/2006 06:35:40 PM
You gotta be kidding???? When I heard this was going down, he (C.S.) was the first one I asked about. That must have been his mom posting. They need to stick up their bosses A%%es as well. S.O.S. was allowed to run rampant, collect C.R.s and lawsuits for years. Elite unit,my balls! Anyone can do enough H/Is and come up with some dope or a pistol.
maybe some of you hard core "real police" should get out there and work in prostitution and be a HOE for a night.how come noone on this job has nothing good to say about anyone? noone sticks together? wtf is going on? just remember everyone, dont burn ANY bridges, cuz that may be the co-worker that you just might need to save YOUR ass someday....male or female, on or off-duty. ego's have NOTHING to do with this job.
Anonymous said... We have all done some things we are sorry for. Never past judgment on someone unless you judge yourself.
9/07/2006 11:53:46 PM
Fuck You! I, like many, have never stolen a penny from the dope man or any other citizen. These guys are not being charged because they were caught doing "grey area" police work. Even doing that is stupid these days. We all know where we stand with that shit, those days are over unless you want to risk your freedom. Sorry, but thats the way it is.
I am a white nonliberal but..... I knew "Dink"and Corey Flagg too. Nice guys to other cops, both black and white. Made a hell of alot of good pinches too. Didn't see too many people posting "God bless them" and "innocent till proven guilty" about them. Did see "Duke" and "gangster" though. Double standard???? But you know what???? Fuck all dirty coppers. The criticism is warranted. Suchocki did all but confess on the news last night. Other morons keeping stashes in their lockers? Yeah, these guys are the elite brains of this operation we call C.P.D.
A guy walks into a liquor store pulls out a pistol and demands all the money in the cash register. This guy is an armed robbery offender. The same guy is apprehended and is discovered to be a police officer. The question is will he be covered by the union? The answer is "NO". He is accused of a criminal while not in the performace of duty. Example #2 (prior to national legislation allowing law enforcement officers to carry concealed in other states)A Chicago Police Officer driving through Wisconson is stopped and subsequesntly charged for carrying his weapon. This officer has no right to legal defense from the union since his arrest was not in connection with his performance of duty. Now if an officer is accused of any wrong doing while he is acting as an officer they he is afforded the right to legal defense
Legal Defense Program
For any incident, arising from the performance of a police function which occurs while the officer is on or off duty, the FOP Legal Defense Committee (LDC) will provide legal coverage and representation, including referral to an attorney approved by the FOP and payment for attorney’s fees and costs, for administration or judicial proceedings, including criminal proceedings.
If these guys are guilty they should get every thing the judge can give them. However, they are assumed innocent until proven guilty, that is why FOP has no choice but to afford them protection.
As for anyone even trying to guess who's ratting out who - or even saying they know for sure who the rat(s) are- why don't you just give it up!! NO ONE really knows yet. Let the chips fall where they may. It is obviously very politically motivated and honestly, I don't think anyone will come out clean--regardless if they rat or not.
The reason everyone hates CS is he is a clout baby arragant as hell and on the roids big time. hes off them now and is really 30-35lbs less muscle. He should of been fired years ago for a gun caper but clout saved him and now look where it has gotten him. I wish I could say I dont believe the charges but I do.
ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! As somebody who has worked in these "specialized" units and played the "real police" for many years, I can only say one thing, if they're guilty than they should do their time. But to listen to all of these "ONE YEAR WONDERS" bad mouthing guys they don't know, about an issue that they only know about from watching the news is sickening. The law of the land is still "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!" Right now, instead of condeming these guys, who are just that, innocent until proven guilty, we should be offering our support to their families. Because accept it or not, these are the same guys that would come running when all of you "know it alls" are screaming for a 10-1 when you're getting your little a@#es beat. So my question is, "Are all of the trash talking butt-wipes going to apologize to these officers if by some chance they are found to be innocent?" That answer is probably NO, because it takes a man to do something like that. So to all you "wanna be real police" go wear out your first pair of boots before you go bashing these officers.
07:22:02 FUCK YOU TOO, Bozo! Too many of us went blindly to the First Medzianowski benefit, back when H.W. was mayor. We bought into the B.S. that he had a lot of arrests & therefore was a good P.O. Find out who is involved & what kind of PERSON they are first, before you start wasting any money on what may be a RAT. Find out what is alleged and make a FAIR estimate of the probability of it being true. In the case of Criminal actions, "We're All Blue" doesn't hold. Not for me anyway. Certainly take into strong consideration their on the job performance in making your judgement.Consider all factors. As far as their families are concerned, it is the job of EACH OF US to look out for our own families. That means "DO THE RIGHT THING!" If you don't know what the right thing is in ANY situation, you don't belong here. While I sympathize with any family that has a RAT for a relative, especially if he is a P.O., it is NOT our responsibility to carry them. And don't think that every family of a crooked cop that gets caught is blindsided by the news. Some know and have known. Guilty knowledge is this/close to involvement. And if I ever get jammed up, please DO NOT come to any benefit for me. I don't like the way your brain is wired. I'm glad I pissed you off with first post & hope this one works as well. Lastly, take advantage of the tuition reimbursement plan & take some reading and spelling classes.
"To the SOS guys familes you are in my prayers and thoughts. You are innocent and need the support of the police family"
After reading these comments all I can say to the posters you are a bunch of ASSHOLES.
Was any of these sad comments made when the guys from 007th district got locked up and charged? HELL NO, so just because they're from SOS and white that they deserve this sympathy, FUCK NO so FUCK THEM.
So either be sad for all of the coppers locked up or be sad for none.
9/08/2006 08:09:34 AM
well, when the guys from 07 were locked up, I did not know about this website and you do not know I did not say this in person to anyone, there is more than the internet my friend. Also, you just did what other ignorant people will do to these guys pass judgement without checking out the facts first. You dont know me and you dont know them even as fellow officers. If they had gotten killed or something your hypocrite self would be at the funeral. do they have to die to get your sympathy right or wrong? do you post about the criminals you arrest or lose sleep over them?
You really should graduate from the academy and get sometime on the job before you call me retarded.
I have been through and seen more scandals on this job than you ever will, and I have seen what the Department does afterwards. Let's see, thirty plus years.
Oh yeah, and I bet I have spent more time at IAD, OPS, and the Federal Building than you ever will. I will even bet I have more time getting laid in a squad car than you have on the job.
So go ahead kiddie kop, call me retarded. Call me what ever you want. At least I know what to expect and what to do and how to survive. So you can call me a retarded survivor.
But they made a movie about you. Based on your whole life story. It was called "Clueless".
I had the experience of working for the county,chicago and now the state police and guess what; if you have political whack you can move to nice spots in all of these departments with the county being the easiest. As far as sos goes, yes there are alot of jaggs there but more than half the unit are nice guys who are always willing to help out the district coppers with no questions asked. when it comes down to it we should all make sure we all go home at night period. I think alot of cops have lost their focus, we have to remeber we are all 1 big family, you become apart of the family the second you take the oath and pin that badge onto your chest. It shouldn't matter what dept you work for or what unit within a dept, you should always be prepared to take 1 for your family meaning a bullet or a scandal. we will get through this if we all stick together. united we stand divided we fall........ lets not lose our focus!!!!!!!!
I WON'T SAY THEY SHOULD'NT MAKE BAIL BUT YEARS AGO WHEN THEY COPPERS IN 006 WERE ARRESTED FOR SHAKING DOWN DRUG DEALERS THERE WAS NO BAIL BECAUSE THEY WERE CONSIDERED "A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY".THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE FED DID THAT INVESTIGATION.
Their legal fees are going to be astrnomical and we owe it to each other to pitch in......Sorry, if they did it we don't owe them anything. This is not a case of some mutt beefing on a few cops, and had it stuck in their ass by the Dept. This seems like a case of bad choice and criminal activity, choices they made and have to now live with if in fact they did it. We're not talking about kids here, theses are guys who are old enough to know what the consequences of their actions would be. If they did indeed commit criminal acts, then they deserve what they get, andhave no one to blame but themselves. I feel bad for the families, but that's what every copper should be thinking about everyday you go out in the streets, that is what's important, and you have to everyting possible to make sure that that's not taken away from you. Nothing on this job, NOTHING is worth going to jail or losing your family. Be safe all!!
TO ALL YOU CRY BABIES OUT THERE! GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! IVE BEEN IN SOS FOR 8YEARS & IM THE FIRST ONE IN MY FAMILY TO BE ON THE JOB! OH AND BY THE WAY I ALSO DONT HAVE A FREAKIN OUNCE OF CLOUT!!! IF I DID I WOULDNT BE THERE! I GOT THERE ON MY OWN MERIT. A HARD WORKING P.O. WITH AN EXCELLENT ARREST RECORD. I ALSO MADE IT ON THE SWAT TEAM! AGAIN W/O A PHONE CALL. I MADE IT ON MY OWN BASED ON MY SKILLS & OTHER QUALITIES!!! SO STICK THAT IN YOUR ASS ALSO! YOU GUYS AND ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THIS FUCKED UP DEPARTMENT MAKE ME SICK! NOT TO MENTION THE COMPLETE LACK OF STICKING TOGETHER AS REAL A POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF WIMPS AND PHONIES THAT THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL AND PRIDE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU BUY A POLICE MEMORIAL T-SHIRT. I KNOW ALL FOUR OF THESE GUYS. AND YES IVE BEEN SICK SINCE THIS STORY UNFOLDED. BUT DONT THINK FOR A MINUTE THAT IM GOING TO PASS JUDGEMENT ON THEM UNTIL THE FACTS ARE PROVED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. HEY TOUGH GUYS OUT THERE, THINK WHAT IF YOU WERE IN THEIR SHOES RIGHT NOW & YOU WERE INNOCENT??? THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS DEPARTMENT...NOBODY GIVES A RATS ASS ABOUT THE GUY SITTING NEXT TO YOU. AND THAT IS WRONG. ESPECIALLY THESES NEW KIDS COMING ON THE JOB. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE BROTHERHOOD?? BLUE IS BLUE. AND IF THEIR FOUND GUILTY, THEN IT WILL BE A VERY SAD DAY. IF NOT? THEN YOU SO CALLED "REAL POLICE" SHOULD BE ASHAMED THAT YOU PIN THAT STAR ON YOUR CHEST EVERYDAY! PEACE OUT & MAY GOD BE WITH MY BROTHERS IN THIS TRYING TIME!
Seeing the comments about the overall impression of the members of SOS reminded me of why the majority of Tact/unit guys are new guys. They listen when told to do silly shit. After several years on Tact I started asking why or saying Im not doing that. So where is the supervisory accountability with the SOS ALLEGATIONS. Also, our friends at the States Attorney's office put us in the position for beefs. Try getting a warrant, they say go to his house and get him. Demand we get statements. We came up with Investigative Alerts to let everyone know when there was probable cause to arrest, which is great. When the alert says NO probable cause, don't try to be cute and get in trouble.
It’s sad that this happened to these officers, but on the flip side, it makes the rest of us look like shit—thanks. I really hope that other officers in this special “elite” unit take a long look in the mirror and check their bad ass, arrogant, self centered, attitudes at the door when they come into the districts as result of these arrests.
The bravado exhibited by SOME of the officers in units like these are pathetic. I really don’t know why they must feel to look down at us lowly patrolmen—ohh that’s right, you’re a patrolman too. We all pushed a beat car at one time in our careers and because many of us do not have a phone call or china man doesn’t mean we are not hard working officers.
A while back, I was asked to go to SOS and I turned them down due to family issues. It could have been me in cuffs.
Leave CS’s mother out of it! She is a wonderful person and any Officer that has come in contact with her has always, yes always been treated with respect. She always goes out of her way to help an officer when needed. Keep the families out of this mess. CS’s mom is a great lady. Doesn’t she have enough heart ache right now without you jerks bringing her into the mix? JEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
You are exactly what is wrong with SOS and why other P.O.'s dislike the unit. I know J.F., C.S., & T.S. too. So fucking what? I won't hammer them, but I won't be buying tickets to any fundraiser either. Your "brothers" have disgraced me in front of my family & friends. I am embarrassed to mix with the public. And if you really are in SOS then you know the stories are crazier than anything posted here. This shit has been an open secret for at least two years. And leave the "brother" shit for the FDNY. There is a big difference between climbing a hundred flights of stairs to a certain death and criminal racketeering.
P.S.
Hope you caught Dallas SWAT on A&E last night. SWAT rocks!
HOW DIFFERENT ARE THESE GUYS THEN COMMANDER MATHEWS WHO CAME INTO THE 019 DISTRICT . PUSHED A P.O. AROUND THATS CALLED A BATTERY AND THEN NOT HAVE HIS CAR IMPOUNDED STEALING FROM THE CITY! THEN GOT DEMOTED AND GOT HIS JOB BACK! WHAT A JOKE!
To 9-8-2006 1:29.... Dear Mr "Tough SWAT Guy", First of all....you must be the baddest mother fucker out there to address everyone else as whimps huh?? and then you brag about how you don't have any "clout" to get into SOS or on to SWAT...but I bet you're one hell of a suck ass!! I too was in SOS for many years and let me tell you Mr. Tough SWAT guy...you are the joke because you "think" that you are better than everyone on this department as your comments clearly display...If you're so proud of your "No clout hard work status" please tell us who you are so that we may use you as a model for all of us shitty lowly district scum....please teach us and tell us how great you really are so we may be so humble and "try" to be as great as you...please show us how its done... You are pathetic and guess what tough guy...one day you'll be back pushing a beat car too....you're career will not end in SWAT unless you're a dirty as Jerry and his crew...The simple fact that you know these officers as do I doesn't excuse their actions....I doubt that after a 2 year investigation the department and the State's Atty's office said "Awwww, fuck it we have nothing but we sure did waste a lot of time on this...let's indict these guys and see what happens." Is that what you really think you goof?? Then if so....you are as stupid as you portray yourself as being...you are a typical goof that thinks he is untouchable...mabye you need to be investigated as well since you tout these great guys as your innocent friends??? Furthermore Mr "Tough SWAT Guy" I wouldn't go around bragging that you are a "Tough SWAT guy" because the HBT/SWAT team in this city is a FUCKING joke and anybody that has an ounce of brain matter knows that you need to be connected to get on that lazy ass team ...I remember HBT guys weighing 400 + pounds!! They probably had no clout either and made it like you did on their..."Skill and hard work" too huh??? I can remember one in particular who was fired from the job for pissing hot...John Steele....he was a 400 puonder...he couldn't do one fucking sit up!! and that's a fact!! but his hard work ethic...like yours got him there....You're a real nitwit!!
9/08/2006 09:27:11 AM wrong, feds to IAD.and more people around the whole Dept.are under the microscope including the city and suburbs. Listen, if you don't think your being watched for any red flag (i.e, court attendance has always been watched since inception of signing in.) your wrong, the feds, city and state are tired of this crap for the past 20yrs, and feel it may get worse. Bottom line keep you self honest and tight.
Please take this sincere "F*CK YOU" to all the little young bitches that are wishing bad to other coppers (legit or crooks) to heart. No one who works the street is 100 per cent legit. When you kick a door in (good faith) chances are youre committing a crime. When you slap someone around and detain them while gatering facts youre committing a crime. When to take a couple of rocks off a dope slinger and give them to a informant youre committing a crime.Theres all different levels of crimes and crooks. The ends dont always justify the means. If a copper is white or of color it doesnt matter to me, he/she is still a copper.There are a lot of coppers I have met over 2 decades some I like ,some I dislike, some absolutely turn my stomache, but I came on the job when it was taught to buck up for the benefit. The facts look pretty bad in this case, but if just one of them is innocent I want to "buck up" and hope for the best. Remember it only takes 1 mistake or eror of judgement to put yourself in the septic tank. Good Luck to all involved and if you are fortunate enough to take heed and never allow yourself to be put in this situation again.
Let me start off by saying I don't condone what these officers are accused of doing but right is right. Where does this Judge get off setting 1,2or3 million dollar bonds for officers. That sucks bigtime. They don't deserve that kind of bond. There are assholes that go through the system charged with more shit then that and they get off with 1,2 or 3 hundred thousand dollar bonds . It ain't right for the state to ask for that. Shame on you ASA's I know you have a job to do but my God you didn't have to stick in their ass. May God have mercy on them and you to.I hope you can sleep tonight.
you little computer nerds love bashing the real police dont you!!!!! let them go to court, see a judge, be tried! you know the whole innocent until proven guilty. you cops make me laugh with your brotherhood b.s. talk. you are like a bunch of gossiping h.s. girls!
Hey SCC, I thought the point of delayed posting was to keep people from posting names. Still see that Mr. Anonymous likes to leave names and that you still post them. If the person has pled or been found guilty post their names. If not they are still innocent until proven guilty and the names should be omitted. Otherwise you are no differant than the Slum Times.
Sounds like there is a whole lot of bitter bitches out there who wish they could amount to something more than just an o'll regular beat/foot guy.
Keep up the great police work. Maybe someone should find you whinning broads a spot in TRU. Its not quite SOS, but if it will help you stop bitching and console you I'm all for it clout or no clout.
Sounds to me like they will have to plea since someone will flip on them If they dont they will get the max so look for 4 guilty pleas and many many years in prison
I WAS IN SOS AND DO NOT APPROVE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED. I AM NOW ON THE BOATS WHERE WE DO NOT DO THAT SORT OF THING. WE ARE OUT THERE ON THE WATER RISKING OUR LIVES IN AN EFFORT TO SAVE OTHERS. I REALLY FEEL WE SHOULD GET D-3 PAY.
When you kick a door in (good faith) chances are youre committing a crime. When you slap someone around and detain them while gatering facts youre committing a crime. When to take a couple of rocks off a dope slinger and give them to a informant youre committing a crime.
Or you can accomplish what needs to be done by doing it LEGALLY. Asshole apologists like you should be shitcanned.
The State of Illinois and our fine City has a nasty history of finding INNOCENT people gulty and letting guilty people go scot free.
I am disturbed when anyone gets the Trial BY Media. IF these guys are the least bit innocent, they will be made political SCAPEGOATS just like those Mearday coppers. They don't have a chance.
I am a little dumbfounded they are calling JF a RINGLEADER. WTF? Gimme a break. Shame on all those coppers who get put on some one else's paper when they didn't do jack. Good reason to steer clear of other peoples arrests.
Todays Police Corruption Book Recommendation: Serpico
Anonymous said... We have all done some things we are sorry for. Never past judgment on someone unless you judge yourself.
9/07/2006 11:53:46 PM
In 20 years on this job I've done plenty of fucking up.Yep,on duty and off.And I caught plenty of unpaid vacations,most of which I deserved.BUT....I've always managed to draw the line on felonies.You know,the shit people go to prison for.In every place I've worked, there were"rumors"about guys.Money guys,dope guys,security for dope/whore/gambling house guys,peel job artists,ring the bell...ding,ding!Some of these geniuses are still on the job,some were promoted,and quite a few are still in prison.Me,I like to sleep at night.And when it comes to thinking about going to the joint....FUCK THAT.Use your skulls for something besides squadcar sex,boys and girls.
Snipers on the boats? The Coast Guard will be jealous. Maybe you should get D-5 pay and a lifetime supply of 5x7 glossies to hand out to your adoring fans.
Hey, when's the benefit? Fuck J.F. & his whole crew! And if he has any friends, FUCK THEM TOO!
9/07/2006 05:08:48 PM
Some years back, there was a cop just like you. Hated all of his fellow cops, thought he was better than his fellow cops, and would not give a red cent to help his fellow cops.
The he gets jammed up over a total BS domestic violence beef. Bail was set high, the lawywers fees were murderous. He was stuck in the County for a few weeks. He was writing letters begging his fellow cops to have some kind of benefit to help him out. They all laughed at him. His letters were posted on the bulletin board with cruel remarks about what a JO he was.
He beat the charges, beat getting fired. People still laugh at him. It cost him everything he had over a BS beef.
There is a lesson here, if your head is not to dense to pick it up;
It could happen to you, or me, or anyone of us.
You better hope that before it happens to you, you can find a phone booth somewhere to hold your party in.
06:06:07 Obviously you are one of the friends. Too obvious. There are many stories in the naked city. Don't bore us with yours. Your comparisons fail because I don't beat my wife, rob dope dealers, or run around wearing a star while commiting various felonies, on or off duty. I don't think I'm better than any other P.O.'s except the ones who do STUPID SHIT THAT EMBARRASES US ALL! I've been to more benefits than you ever have, and not just for P.O.'s, and have nearly gone broke doing it. You have not and never will be at any party that I hold or is held for me. You don't know who I am, do you? But I have a very good idea who you are. That bothers you. I am proud of all the good, honest, hard working Police Officers that I know and have known. I don't consider you to be in that category. I smell a phoney.
Anonymous said... The feds don't take cases until/unless you do the work for them and hand it to them on a silcer platter with a red bow.
The FEDS should have taken the case, MAYBE clout and biases could have been neutralized.
9/09/2006 12:45:10 AM
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Agreed. The feds won't do anything unless it is wrapped up tight with a big bow. The feds aren't the police, they are CPA's and attorney's allowed to carry guns and go by the title "special agent" or "agent"....they are too scared to make any type of arrest and don't do anything unless it's OK with an AUSA on board. They are worthless and usually don't share information, but certainly want you to give info to them. They should have taken this case, shame on them.
1:56:50 You sound jealous! Yes I am on the boats so what I earned my way there. I worked very hard in SOS and now on the boats. Hard work and good work ethic goes along way. I became a diver on my own, paying for it while working side jobs. You see when you are trained in a high demand field you are in demand. And when I make Sgt. you can come work for me and I will show you what good hard work is. So dont be a little baby! BITCH.
BLACK EYE FOR CPD? well maybe but seen this type of scandals over and over each year or couple of years apart.
My question is why did this take over two years. This was not a federal investigation, it was apparently done by IAD. Now we all know that they don't employ the sharpest tacks in the drawer. In fact I have heard some singing praises to them for their stupidity. This isn't the first scandal and it won't be the last that many of you young guys see in your careers. Don't beleive this "black eye" shit or being embarresed crap. Worry about how you do your job not how someone else handles him or her self. There is plenty of criminal stupidity among the upper ranks. This means from some of the newly promoted Sgts. Lts. Capt. up to 35th St. If there was a real investigation a high percentage would be indicted or at least fired for neglegence, official misconduct etc. Yes, official misconduct on the "bosses" who promote assholes and incompitant goofs and the nitwit goofs for accepting promotions when they know they are goofs. Can you jail some people for ignorance? If so, are the white shirts open game? Tac Teams would have a field day with CB#s. Don't worry about black eyes or bad publicity. There will be plenty more in years to come from incidents you havent heard and have yet to happen.
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Hey, when's the benefit? Fuck J.F. & his whole crew! And if he has any friends, FUCK THEM TOO!
You gotta wonder why only 4 were locked up when 9 were stripped.
Maybe 5 have agreed to testify? Cause I'm guesing that if even one testifies against them, this case is over and they spend the next 30 in the IDOC!
I'm betting the State asks for no bond, or at least a ridiculous amount like $5 or even $10 million.
What a day to do this too...they retire P.O. Solorio's star in front, while they are locking up coppers on the 5th floor.
what ever happened with keeping your mouth shut people. all of you should listen to yourselves and the crazy stuff you say. We need to all not pass judgement and start to support each other better. and that means off duty also. Remember that things can go full circle.
No feds.... must be some holes or they would have picked it up
silly question but are they going to have fop representation?
HOPEFULLY THE BAD ONES WILL BE FOUND OUT AND THE GOOD ONES BE SAVED.......BE SAFE.
Four police officers arrested TODAY!!! The supervising Lt. re-assigned? Looks like it will stop at the Sgt. level. How much time do you think it will take for one these guys to start talking?
I heard last night that 4 were stripped. I'm assuming that these 4 today are the same one's. Oh yea SCC, Channel 7 showed the names of the officers. Based on the charges, there are NO charges of THEFT, only Armed Violence, Kidnapping, Delivery of a Controlled Substance. Maybe more are to follow.
I feel bad for their families because it will just about bankrupt all of them for the legal defense.
All you young coppers out there I hope you really look hard at this not only are these guys looking to go to jail for at least 30 years but their families now have to go on and survive probably losing their homes and any savings they had for what a couple grand.
Be careful and slap the next copper you see doing something this stupid.
Hey SCC, you really should find a better way to do this delayed postings. Why did you do away w/ real time postings? I the same person keeps posting bullshit then I'm sure you can find out who it is and put some kind of blocker on his IP address. I like the site but you LOST A WHOLE LOT w/ this delayed posting policy you have now.
I for one am absolutely shocked and mortified to have learned that one of the 4 arrested today was C.S.
I've known him for a very, very long time and I NEVER in my wildest dreams thought he would ever be involved in something like this.
I guess it just goes to show you that you never really know someone.
What a waste of a great career and a life.
on fox news this afternoon they showed three of them in handcuffs. very sad :(
BR must be singing like a birdie! If they are all guilty they all better lose their jobs...just not the ones that didn't rat!
The only time you want to hear X is when it is X-rated not class X,good luck.
I hope they post bail then after their trails go the the pen. THEY GONE. Fuck them for giving us as Police Officers a black eye. Less then 5% of the Department ruin it for the rest. That 5% do not deserve or loyalty, or protection. These were not aggressive police mistakes. They are THIEVES plain and simple. Not any better than a burglar, or the stick up man. FUCK'EM.
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Damn you! How dare you have a private life when we need info?!
PS: Good riddance!
In an unrelated subject:
I HUGE hats off to bt 1813 midnights for ignoring a fellow brethen in need after said brethen was nearly jumped and robbed and after said brethen grabbed one offender for burglary to auto. Not only did these dogs push off the paper and not show an once of compassion for a fellow brother, but they questioned the motives of a guy just trying to walk home when 4 animals approached tried to take his wallet and nearly jumped him.
Sometimes there comes a time when I am so sickened by the lack of comraderie and the lack of loyalty.
Thanks to beat 1812 for having the balls to pick up the pieces and at least help the officer get a ride home.
and to the POS LT who thinks that an off duty pulls his gun when hes in fear of his life is wrong and should be punished.....shame on you for never working a day in your life.
Guys if we dont have each other, who the hell do we have.
I know many are thinking they have whats coming to them, however, stop and look what they are being charged with: Burglary / Home Invasion, Aggravated Kidnapping, Armed violence...If any of you REAL police EVER stopped someone and put them in your car-YOU TOO could be charged with Aggravated Kidnapping, and Armed Violence. Ever get a consent to search,then get a beef saying you forced them to sign it because you recovered illegal drugs in the house? Then you too could get charged with burglary / Home Invasion. Be careful of who you throw stones at (that is unless you live in a glass house). I am NOT condoning theft, but let's look at the big picture here.
Ouch! My ass hurt just watching the news of all this. Let's see what happens next.
The hammer is going to fall alright, right on all of us. Do not think for one minute that there is not a lot of POd bosses at 35th Street right now.
All you people better get a reality check. They are going to monitor the hell out of all of us for the short comings of a few. That is how they not only correct problems, but prevent them in the future. A cold wind is gonna blow, so get out the parkas.
Better start acting like the police instead of the TV or movie police. Better stop with the whining, crying, and moaning. Save it for your porn movies.
Better start doing the things you are supposed to do everday. There are no supercops. Good cops do what has to be done everyday- no matter how trivial. Ordinary cops think they are special. The worse thing in life is to be ordinary.
will these guys get FOP lawyers, or are they on their own?
It's easy to Monday morning quarterback. I wish the best for these guys. Whether they did it or not. The CPD should make church mandatory on Sundays instead of car inspections or weapon inspections on Wednesdays.
JF, TS, CS and CH, all the best and God bless your families!!
Do the rest of the boys feel the weight of this scandal? I know I do. This is gonna be a tough one to shed. Everytime you go into someones house for anything, the trust will be gone.
S.O.S. today.... and soon the big judge's hammer will be on those in OCD/Prostitution. Ths is going to be a mess.
Not sure if I can afford to purchase this many raffle and benefit tickets for everyone who is going to be locked up.
My Question is the news is referring to S.O.S. as an "ELITE UNIT" or "Son's of Supervisors" but what will the news call the Prostitution Unit when that news breaks? Drunken Female Hoe Police Officers working as Undercover Drunken Hoes?
I have a feeling that from now until at least the end of the year, the media/news are going to be hammer the police department. Let us wait and see.
it's too bad that the police are guilty until proven innocent as opposed to the criminals; even with our own superintendent. and its even more tragic that a former fellow sos officer, j.g., is co-operating with the state's attorneys' office to bring down his partners because of his own indistregtion about the car theft of his own vehicle. will we ever learn????
Shit has hit the fan. For a second it kind of makes you ashamed to be a cop. Just for a second.
hey,speaking of po's in trouble what ever happen to ricky.g?
7:55 you are a complete moron..ever put someone in your car? ever get a consent to search? you fool you are comparing apples to oranges. the two examples you wrote were the act of doing good police work.....not stealing thousands of dollars...these guys are criminals dont make excuses for them idiot. your examples are horrible!
maybe they will get the same judges that have let so many people go on similar charges. if the judges were as hard on the true criminals as i know they will be on these guys because they are in the spotlight, the moral may not be so low in the department. if this was someone in cabrini green, there would be protests out there saying they are innocent, where is the innocent until proven guilty for these guys. also shame on the investigators who let it go for so long, one felony would be good enough to get them fired. how irresponsible to let them continue to do something wrong if they truly believed it. they should be charged as accomplices then.
i knew k.h. and i used to always see him at 26th and cal. its ashamed he seemed like a good guy. he must have been overcame by peer pressure. im sure he is going to regret this one for the rest of his life.
scc take off the delay postings please!
Everyone be mindfull of what you say. These guys got family and loved ones and they might read this site. ALl of this department must be honest with themself and realize why they took this job in the first place. It could not of been for the money. Things need to change in this big family. People need to lose their egos and look out for one another. On duty and Off duty.
First , I will address Post. 09:32:03
I think Dan Web will defend them
PRO BONO. Yea right you fucken idiot !
Second I will address Post
08:18:28
There never was nor will there ever be any indictments in the prostitution unit. They have nothing on them and they never were investigating them. So take your rumors and stick them up your non informed ass. Get this , you will never see anything on this subject.it's over before it started.
THIS CASE SOUNDS LIKE THE OLD MARIO MORALES CASE FROM THE 24TH DISTRICT. HE GOT 24 YEARS FOR EXTORSION AND HOMEINVASION/STEALING DRUGS AND CASH! IT HAPPENS EVERY COUPLE YEARS....CRIME DOESNT PAY BOYZ! WORK HARD EARN YOUR HOURS, WORK YOUR SIDES , DO DEFERRED COMP AND PRAY YOU COLLECT A PENSION.
"I for one am absolutely shocked and mortified to have learned that one of the 4 arrested today was C.S."
I'm not. A great career? If you got the hook up...
Known him since the academy. Bragged about being hired early and out of SS# sequence because of the hook up. One of the most arrogant and condescending people I've met on this job. And his policing skills are average. It's amazing how 3 months of hard lifting in your early 20's will add 50 pounds of muscle to your frame! My favorite was the night he was wandering around Dugans showing random women his cock piercing. It may come in handy soon. Surprised? please...
It is a sad day for the Chicago Police Department and the Special Operations Section. I know all of these officers, some I like some I dislike, but they were all the working police at one time. My prayers go out to all of the families of these officers, as well as the officers themselves. We can all ask for justice, if they're charged, and mercy if they are found guilty. The only person we know for sure made it to heaven is St. Dismis, the "Good Thief", and that was because he asked for forgiveness. Carl, yours hurt me personally because of he way you befriended my son, and how much he respected you, you are in my prayers. Jerry, I have know you for many, many years. Back from the original days of the Flying Squad and was with you and Jimmy S, when you recovered 10 guns from Presidential Towers. I will think of the good things you have accomplished. God Bless you, and stay strong...Look around you, watch each others backs. You are all in there, and make sure all three get out. I always trusted you when you had my back on the street. God Bless. Let ye who have not sinned cast the first stonel
flying Sqq
OK Laura, If you are going to stretch a verbal arguement with someone that doesn't share your views from 7+ years ago, to current day and call them a "RAT", you really should do your homework. Give it up...I think you post things just to see your work in print.
To bad innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to the police even by the police!! Those of you should be ashamed of yourselves, unless you were there, and then and only then can you talk!!!!!
Word is... and yes if was from a friend of a friend...but going to post it anyhow... In regard to the prostitution investigation, that one female formerly assigned there is currently cooperating. Word is she got her move out of there towards the end of the investigation and was nicely rewarded for wearing an under"wire" bra which recorded very incriminating conversations of her coworkers. Maybe explains why one letter of intent of immunity was already issued? Sounds like she really was an undercover FBI angel! A few friends I know in OCD have conveyed a certain female's name that was recently rewarded and moved. So this maybe be very accurate information.
Old Santa Claus Phil is making his list and checking it twice. I guess no one from SOS will be on it. We do know who will be on Santa's Meritorious Lt. list. Mattie Cline.
I hope Fr.Tom will get over and see the guys (in the lockup) and their folks. Some of these guys are likely to eat the wrong end of the sig. I pray for everyone involved in any way. They will try to make an example of these guys to teach the young (coppers) some religon.
an old alley cop
U gotta' love the guy who blames the investigators for letting this thing escalate! He says they should be tried as accomplices? Sometimes the investigator makes the recommendation, and the case gets buried by clout. The only constant in this is CLOUT never gets called on the carpet. This multitude of CR numbers over the years have to go thru a chain of command including the accused's own C/O and the 1st Dep. and SUPERINTENDENT. If you have 3 CR's in a year, you go on a list of candidates for Personnel Concern. Who makes the decision if bad boy or girl gets put on that list? THE C/O once again!!!! Or the admin. at IA or OPS. So, where do we point the finger in the blame game? One self, one's partner, one's boss? I think you should all put that finger it in your ass, sleep on it and smell it in the morning. 10 times outta' 10 it'll smell like shit, but 9 outta' 10 will swear it smells like a rose!
BLAME THE FUCKING BOSSES WHO HAVE BEEN YES MEN FROM THE GET GO COMPLETS WITH WORN OUT KNEE PADS AND CHAPPED LIPS. THEY HAVE COVERED THIS SHIT FOR YEARS AND WILL NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. TURN THOSE FILES AT IAD AND OPS INSIDE OUT AND LET ALL COVER UPS COME TO LIGHT. PHILLY IS NO EXCEPTION. DIDN'T HE SAVE A DRUNK RECRUIT HIS JOB BECAUSE SAID RECRUIT WAS HIS NABOR?? I GUESS SOME OLD TIMERS CALL THAT BEING BLUE OR PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. PLAIN AND SIMPLE IT'S CRONYISM, FAVORITISM AND COMPLETE BULL SHIT!
wait and see what the dollar amounts taken are...that will put the doubts to rest. remember this is a two year investigation they don't devote those man hours to a west side bullshit beef. they get everything they deserve
Anonymous said...
silly question but are they going to have fop representation?
9/07/2006 05:43:54 PM
Yep, they will be on their own. FOP will not represent an officer who is charged criminally. Get the checkbook out boys!
Anonymous said...
silly question but are they going to have fop representation?
9/07/2006 05:43:54 PM
If that is what they want.....it all happened in the performace of being police officers.
Now we really get to see who has the clout of the group, i.e. who is allowed to roll in order to avoid prison/charges...
hummmm let's see. white police... political election season...
If anyone out there thinks that they are immune from this type of prosecutorial misconduct, then you better inventory more of that sh'' instead of smoking it.
Anyone that puts a bad word out here regarding any of these officers is worse then any sh''head I've ever arrested. You have no honor!
Our constitutional rights are just as improtant as criminals and you and Phil should learn to maintain the perception that you care about your fellow officers.
This site makes me sick. SCC you should moderate better to at least give our department a fighting chance.
I was sickened again as Ch-5 reported the charges against these members of an "elite" unit, however, felt much better when she explained how SOS stood for "Sons Of Supervisors".
Hat tip to Carol M.
Peer pressure? what, are we in grammar school? We took an oath and are expected to carry through with that oath no matter what. I have never had a problem pointing out someones wrongdoing for the simple fact that i have to sleep at night. we are sworn to protect others from criminals not become them. If they are guilty then let them hang but if they are innocent they should sue the hell out of this city and move to a nice quiet town where they can laugh at the rest of us. Either way i hope that the truth comes out but peer pressure is no reason to become a criminal. PERIOD!
I hope the feds come in and finish what IAD started, because this is the tip of the iceberg in this department. Until the political B.S. stops and the professional, honest, moral police officers (with no political connections) are recognized and rewarded for their good, moral, and ethical police work, this crap will continue. Every other department in America (and the Chicago Suburbs) praise honest professional police officers. But not C.P.D!! Only crooked political f%$#s get any opportunity at SOS or SWAT, or any other decent unit for that matter. Any honest P.O. who want's to do his/her job and have opportunities should leave C.P.D. if they can. Let the dogs, political hacks, dishonest, corrupt cops, run this city, since everyone from the Mayor to Cline on down to the Sgt's condone this by allowing this shit to continue (political clout promotions and appointments etc; etc.). These crooked s.o.b.'s arrested today can rot in IDOC for all I care. We'll all be looking at their picture on the IDOC web-site in about 2 years, serving time at Pontiac or Menard, with a projected parole date of 2030. Listen people, they became the evil that we fight every day. When you plant shit on people, lie in your reports, beat people for no reason, steal, pilage, and plunder, you are no better than the criminals in the street. You have become what they are. If you are crooked, then go to church or do something to better yourself. Don't bring shame upon yourself, your family, and this department. Don't bitch about the "savages" in the street when you are a savage yourself. The "G" needs to take over this City and clean the "machine" out, because the corruption in Chicago is just unreal.
We have all done some things we are sorry for. Never past judgment on someone unless you judge yourself.
Legal Defense Program
For any incident, arising from the performance of a police function which occurs while the officer is on or off duty, the FOP Legal Defense Committee (LDC) will provide legal coverage and representation, including referral to an attorney approved by the FOP and payment for attorney’s fees and costs, for administration or judicial proceedings, including criminal proceedings.
Please guys be informed
They will not be covered by FOP because they were charged criminally while in the performance of there job.They would have to go in front of the criminal defense committee and plead their case in front of the board members and they will never approve counsel for them too much money for criminal lawyers.But C.S's mom does work there so lets see what happens!!!!!
They absolutely DO NOT GET FOP REPRESENTATION. The union does not look at a criminal act as in the performance of your duty. The above poster said it right get the check book out. Whether they did it or not would you want our union representing you when you are on trial for a significant amount of time? I know I wouldn't.
They will not be covered by FOP because they were charged criminally while in the performance of there job.They would have to go in front of the criminal defense committee and plead their case in front of the board members and they will never approve counsel for them too much money for criminal lawyers.But C.S's mom does work there so lets see what happens!!!!!
This is sad day as 4 of our own have been arrested. First let us afford them the same right of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Second, keep their families in mind at this time of personal crisis and grief. I hope that they will be allowed to bond out and be afforded time to prepare for their trials. That said if they are in fact guilty, then justice needs to be done. Plain and simple. All to often we we are quick to drag their names through the dirt without looking in the mirror first. Remember none of us who really works the street is 100% legit all the time. There are alot of gray areas in police work that are not taught in the academy. Remember that before you start throwing stones. I'm not advicating the behavior that has ALLEDGED to have occurred, but wishing we all just show some support for our fellow officers, until proven otherwise. It's gonna be tough all around the dept. now. Especially since the media is all over this case, as are all the attornies. In my experience this to shall pass. To all the youger guys and gals, slow down for alittle while. Do your work, but do not put yourself in any situation that may "jam" you up. You have a long careers ahead of you.There is nothing to prove to the veteran officers, let alone the bosses on this job. Go to work, have fun everyday, and MAKE IT to retirement. Then of course leave this dump of city behind you. Stay safe BROTHERS, and God Bless all of you.
I'm tired of hearing SOS, Tact & Gang teams, etc; refered to as "elite units." Any clown with clout can get into one of these units. They can get in with no knowledge of basic police procedure, tactical skills, ethics, or anything else positive regarding the police profession. Only a phone call is needed in CPD. I once heard that clown Mauer refer to Tru as an elite unit before he retired, comparing them to the 101st Airborne Div. I wanted to puke!!! Does he have any idea what the 101st did on D-Day and since then in other wars and conflicts?? Did that loud mouth ever serve in the U.S. military? He and the media have no idea of what an elite unit is. Now, if you want to talk about the hero elite units (101st Airborn, Marines, SEALS, Rangers and so on) serving our country, those are elite units. Soldiers and Marines our dying for our country every day, and brave police officers are dying in this country on an average of one every other day. And yet, 4 corrupt CPD officers have contributed to the already bad image of CPD seen across the U.S. by getting arrested today! SOS is not elite at all, they are a disgrace. Turn on the news and see the real elite warriors fighting and dying to keep this country free and safe. May all of the honest & ethical police officers in CPD stay safe and healthy, and may the corrupt be taken down and removed from this department.
To the SOS guys familes you are in my prayers and thoughts. You are innocent and need the support of the police family.
Anonymous said...
silly question but are they going to have fop representation?
9/07/2006 05:43:54 PM
If that is what they want.....it all happened in the performace of being police officers.
9/07/2006 11:39:33 PM
Wrong. FOP will not defend them on criminal charges.
this is a prime example why I will not call in a imaginary gang dispersal. The FEDS or the ASA's (police haters) will get you!
These guys should have reset their passwords on the CLEAR system..... They would have been able to get their court notifications. It pays to use the CLEAR system!!!!
Attention all coppers.. There is a lesson to be learned hear.
DO NOT BLOW OFF TRAFFIC COURT..... YOU MAY BE NEXT!
So who was the broad wearing her daddy's uniform standing behind the Superintendent at the press conference?
"BOSSES WHO HAVE BEEN YES MEN FROM THE GET GO COMPLETS WITH WORN OUT KNEE PADS AND CHAPPED LIPS."
9/07/2006 11:21:51 PM
scc, will you let the bosses know Walgreen's has the good cocoa butter chap stick on sale this week? they better hurry though, sale ends Saturday!
...Once they act criminally, you can throw out the ridiculous assertation that they were "acting as police officers." Screw 'em. How many of you have locked up a mutt and said, "Well, he isn't guilty until proven so in a court of law." Come on, you know better. These idiots give us all a black eye. If they each only get 30 years....they should count their blessings. Any working copper out there has had the ASA refuse charges on a "rock solid" case for bullshit reasons. If the state approved these charges....can you even begin to imagine how "rock solid" this case must be. I won't be buying any benefit tickets.
To da comment "Their Are No Super Cops". yes their are. and damn good ones they are. while the rest of the 80% lazy, dog, do nothing, laying down on jobs, looking the other way, not backing up fellow brothers in blue, hee haw, stupid poleeze are sitting on their hands, those 20% super cops are out their humping, cleaning up the streets and doing their job. Same coppers in the station on arrests. Same coppers in court. do the math!
My Question is the news is referring to S.O.S. as an "ELITE UNIT" or "Son's of Supervisors" but what will the news call the Prostitution Unit when that news breaks? Drunken Female Hoe Police Officers working as Undercover Drunken Hoes?
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Now I know who is spreading all those awful untrue rumors about those Prostitution officers. It was a married copper who a couple of months got caught trying to pick up one of those "Drunken Female Hoe Police Officers."
He obviously wasn't a very good cop because he thought that the P.O. was really a HOE. I heard the only way he stayed out of jail was crying and whining about how he was going to lose his job and how he could never look at his wife and kids in the eyes again if he got arrested.
Happy ending, though, he wasn't arrested and now likes to spread juicy rumors on this blog. I wonder what unit will catch him doing something illegal next? Beware it could be yours....
The hammer is going to fall alright, right on all of us. Do not think for one minute that there is not a lot of POd bosses at 35th Street right now.
All you people better get a reality check. They are going to monitor the hell out of all of us for the short comings of a few. That is how they not only correct problems, but prevent them in the future. A cold wind is gonna blow, so get out the parkas.
Better start acting like the police instead of the TV or movie police. Better stop with the whining, crying, and moaning. Save it for your porn movies.
Better start doing the things you are supposed to do everday. There are no supercops. Good cops do what has to be done everyday- no matter how trivial. Ordinary cops think they are special. The worse thing in life is to be ordinary.
9/07/2006 08:15:53 PM
YOURE RETARDED>>> NO MORE POSTS FROM YOU!
"One of the most arrogant and condescending people I've met on this job." by 10:53 regarding C.S.
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On the contrary. C.S. has NO self esteem, is a follower and has had a really hard life. I feel very badly for the poor decisions he allegedly made. I use the word "allegedly" though I know in my heart he did wrong. I am a little older than C.S., but still hung around with him growing up. He was always such a nice kid, always seeking the approval of others. It's hard to learn that he has "allegedly" done such horrible things. I really am sad to see him ruin his life. He could have been so much more. God bless.
But, J.F.---there's the most arrogant person I've met on this job. Still, I wish the best for his family.
All you guys talk about clout. Well here is something you may not know and it has been going on since before we got the so called union contract. FOP, depending on who you talk to, gets between fifteen and twenty spots a year. They can recomend people to go to the units of their choice. So your own union has been selling you out through the back door.
Now, one the those SOS guys mom has been a long time FOP employee. How do you think he got to SOS?
Maybe that is why the so called union has always been so dead set against bidding to all, and I mean all, specialized units.
Hey, when's the benefit? Fuck J.F. & his whole crew! And if he has any friends, FUCK THEM TOO!
9/07/2006 05:08:48 PM
Now hold on there. We do not give money and go to benefits because of our personal opinions regarding the individuals. We do it for two reasons:
1.) They need our help and their families should bear as little of the financial burden of their mistakes as possible. It is the right thing to do. I hate what these guys did, and IF, and only IF they are found guilty, criminally and/or administravely, I hope they get the max. But I will give money to help them
2.) The second, and most important reason to give, Officer FUCK THEM TOO!, is it could be you or me. How would you like to be in their shoes and facing the loss of everything? How would you like to have your family lose the house, cars, and verything else? We give because anyone of us could be put in a situation where we wind up on the wrong side, whether the accusations are true or false. BTW, beating a case costs just as much as losing. Their legal fees are going to be astrnomical and we owe it to each other to pitch in.
Everyone hated Majenowski, even his own coworkers. Here is something you may not know. When his troubles started and very early on it looked as if he was going down and lose everything some anonymous donor came forward and paid for his kid's high school tuition.
So, MR FUCK THEM TOO!, I hope YOU never get in trouble and I hope I never find out who you are. Cause, I will be all over every blog saying FUCK HIM!
Have you noticed that alot of unmarked cars are now almost fully marked? Marked car w/o light bar.
The Dept. is going to take away as many unmarked veh's as they can because of accountability. I heard that ALL Det's cars are going to be like this as well along w/ Tact and Gang Teams.
This is compliments of SOS.
After reading these comments and noticing how some of the posters say
"We need to all not pass judgement and start to support each other better"
"I feel bad for their families because it will just about bankrupt all of them for the legal defense"
"he must have been overcame by peer pressure. im sure he is going to regret this one for the rest of his life"
"Everyone be mindfull of what you say. These guys got family and loved ones and they might read this site"
"My prayers go out to all of the families of these officers, as well as the officers themselves. We can all ask for justice, if they're charged, and mercy if they are found guilty"
"I hope Fr.Tom will get over and see the guys (in the lockup) and their folks"
"silly question but are they going to have fop representation?"
"We have all done some things we are sorry for. Never past judgment on someone unless you judge yourself."
"This is sad day as 4 of our own have been arrested. First let us afford them the same right of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Second, keep their families in mind at this time of personal crisis and grief. I hope that they will be allowed to bond out and be afforded time to prepare for their trials."
"To the SOS guys familes you are in my prayers and thoughts. You are innocent and need the support of the police family"
After reading these comments all I can say to the posters you are a bunch of ASSHOLES.
Was any of these sad comments made when the guys from 007th district got locked up and charged? HELL NO, so just because they're from SOS and white that they deserve this sympathy, FUCK NO so FUCK THEM.
So either be sad for all of the coppers locked up or be sad for none.
VERY SAD TO SEE THEM CUFFED! WOW A REAL EYE OPENER
why are people on this blog talking about C.S. Mother! She is a great woman who was extremely proud of her son! The families should not be discredited because of this! By the way to the moron who was jealous of C.S he has worked out for many years not 3 months just because your obviously a fat slob don't cast stomes!!
Don't be quick to judge these guys. If you enter a house without a warrant while your partners detain the mope against his will you have committed armed violence, kidnaping, and home invasion if someone was in the house. If the mope beefs on you and says you took 20k he saved since he was 10 now you committed burglary. I am sure they did some thing very wrong but read between the lines. Another problem is that I sift thru dozens of rap sheets every night 10 to 20 pages with everything from murder to criminal sexual assault but they get a bond, bet the house these guys don't and it is their first arrest. just something to think about. Remember them in your prayers.
Rumor is IAD turned case over to the feds who said "no thanks". Maybe the case against these guys just is not that strong.
WOW HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN IVE BEEN LOCKING UP PEOPLE FOR YEARS. IVE SEEN THE QUALITY ARRESTS THESE GUYS MAKE. IVE ALWAYS ASSUMED IT WAS DOING POLICE WORK THAT MOTIVATED THEM AS IT IS FOR ME. I WONDER IF PRESSURE TO PRODUCE FACTORED IN HERE. I THINK ILL TURN INTO A DO NOTHING FORM NOW ON I WOULDNT WANT POLICE WORK MISCONSTRUED FOR SOMTHING ELSE. I WAS IN SHOCK WHEN THE NEWS SHOWED SOME OF THESE GUYS BIENG WALKED INTO THE COURT HOUSE IN HANDCUFFS. A TERRIBLE THING. I STILL DONT BELIEVE IT.
9/07/2006 11:49:50 PM
You are a dickhead!
If you think politics/clout isn't in play with the 'burbs, state, or even the feds you are a moron!
Politics/clout in the private sector is called networking.
I've been in two "units," each time being brought in by a sgt. that I had worked for else where. I do the job asked of me, I do it well enough to keep the boss happy and I keep my mouth shut.
On this board a lot of people claim that all of the clout babies aren't worth crap as the police. If that is true then how is all of the GOOD police work getting done?
This is the reason that anyone that works, and most importtantly keeps his trap shut and not worry about what the other guy is up to, can find a GOOD spot in the dept.
The bras always need people that can get the job done.
Stay Safe All!
They're FFFFFUUUCCCKKKDDDDDDTTTTT!!
I wonder what the other (5) five are doing? HHHHmmmmm???? Do ya think they were the weakest link and broke em' to solidify their case? Who ratted on who? Who saved their own ass at the expense of fucking their comrades in crime? You call them "Turncoats", "Rats","Canaries", "Stool Pigeons", etc... They are the worst amongst criminals. They do the crime with their bretheren and when it's time to do the time, they start breaken'. At least their used to be honor among criminals but those guys should have known much better. "There is no honor among theives!".
"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime!".
In response to 12:06:03 a.m.; You are wrong. There are working police who ARE 100% legit. Just, because you may not know the law, general orders, and criminal procedure, don't assume other working officers don't. There are working officers who are by the book and make good arrests every day.
Anonymous said...
I for one am absolutely shocked and mortified to have learned that one of the 4 arrested today was C.S.
I've known him for a very, very long time and I NEVER in my wildest dreams thought he would ever be involved in something like this.
I guess it just goes to show you that you never really know someone.
What a waste of a great career and a life.
9/07/2006 06:35:40 PM
You gotta be kidding????
When I heard this was going down, he (C.S.) was the first one I asked about. That must have been his mom posting. They need to stick up their bosses A%%es as well. S.O.S. was allowed to run rampant, collect C.R.s and lawsuits for years. Elite unit,my balls! Anyone can do enough H/Is and come up with some dope or a pistol.
maybe some of you hard core "real police" should get out there and work in prostitution and be a HOE for a night.how come noone on this job has nothing good to say about anyone? noone sticks together? wtf is going on? just remember everyone, dont burn ANY bridges, cuz that may be the co-worker that you just might need to save YOUR ass someday....male or female, on or off-duty. ego's have NOTHING to do with this job.
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9/08/2006 12:06:03 AM
Remember none of us who really works the street is 100% legit all the time.
Funny, I am. Jagoff.
Anonymous said...
We have all done some things we are sorry for. Never past judgment on someone unless you judge yourself.
9/07/2006 11:53:46 PM
Fuck You! I, like many, have never stolen a penny from the dope man or any other citizen. These guys are not being charged because they were caught doing "grey area" police work. Even doing that is stupid these days. We all know where we stand with that shit, those days are over unless you want to risk your freedom. Sorry, but thats the way it is.
I am a white nonliberal but..... I knew "Dink"and Corey Flagg too. Nice guys to other cops, both black and white. Made a hell of alot of good pinches too. Didn't see too many people posting "God bless them" and "innocent till proven guilty" about them. Did see "Duke" and "gangster" though. Double standard???? But you know what???? Fuck all dirty coppers. The criticism is warranted. Suchocki did all but confess on the news last night. Other morons keeping stashes in their lockers? Yeah, these guys are the elite brains of this operation we call C.P.D.
A guy walks into a liquor store pulls out a pistol and demands all the money in the cash register. This guy is an armed robbery offender. The same guy is apprehended and is discovered to be a police officer. The question is will he be covered by the union?
The answer is "NO". He is accused of a criminal while not in the performace of duty.
Example #2 (prior to national legislation allowing law enforcement officers to carry concealed in other states)A Chicago Police Officer driving through Wisconson is stopped and subsequesntly charged for carrying his weapon. This officer has no right to legal defense from the union since his arrest was not in connection with his performance of duty. Now if an officer is accused of any wrong doing while he is acting as an officer they he is afforded the right to legal defense
Legal Defense Program
For any incident, arising from the performance of a police function which occurs while the officer is on or off duty, the FOP Legal Defense Committee (LDC) will provide legal coverage and representation, including referral to an attorney approved by the FOP and payment for attorney’s fees and costs, for administration or judicial proceedings, including criminal proceedings.
If these guys are guilty they should get every thing the judge can give them. However, they are assumed innocent until proven guilty, that is why FOP has no choice but to afford them protection.
As for anyone even trying to guess who's ratting out who - or even saying they know for sure who the rat(s) are- why don't you just give it up!! NO ONE really knows yet. Let the chips fall where they may. It is obviously very politically motivated and honestly, I don't think anyone will come out clean--regardless if they rat or not.
The reason everyone hates CS is he is a clout baby arragant as hell and on the roids big time. hes off them now and is really 30-35lbs less muscle. He should of been fired years ago for a gun caper but clout saved him and now look where it has gotten him. I wish I could say I dont believe the charges but I do.
ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! As somebody who has worked in these "specialized" units and played the "real police" for many years, I can only say one thing, if they're guilty than they should do their time. But to listen to all of these "ONE YEAR WONDERS" bad mouthing guys they don't know, about an issue that they only know about from watching the news is sickening. The law of the land is still "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!" Right now, instead of condeming these guys, who are just that, innocent until proven guilty, we should be offering our support to their families. Because accept it or not, these are the same guys that would come running when all of you "know it alls" are screaming for a 10-1 when you're getting your little a@#es beat. So my question is, "Are all of the trash talking butt-wipes going to apologize to these officers if by some chance they are found to be innocent?" That answer is probably NO, because it takes a man to do something like that. So to all you "wanna be real police" go wear out your first pair of boots before you go bashing these officers.
07:22:02 FUCK YOU TOO, Bozo!
Too many of us went blindly to the
First Medzianowski benefit, back when H.W. was mayor. We bought into the B.S. that he had a lot of arrests & therefore was a good P.O.
Find out who is involved & what kind of PERSON they are first, before you start wasting any money on what may be a RAT. Find out what is alleged and make a FAIR estimate of the probability of it being true. In the case of Criminal actions, "We're All Blue" doesn't hold. Not for me anyway. Certainly take into strong consideration their on the job performance in making your judgement.Consider all factors.
As far as their families are concerned, it is the job of EACH OF US to look out for our own families.
That means "DO THE RIGHT THING!"
If you don't know what the right thing is in ANY situation, you don't belong here. While I sympathize with any family that has a RAT for a relative, especially if he is a P.O., it is NOT our responsibility to carry them.
And don't think that every family of a crooked cop that gets caught is blindsided by the news.
Some know and have known.
Guilty knowledge is this/close to involvement.
And if I ever get jammed up, please DO NOT come to any benefit for me. I don't like the way your brain is wired.
I'm glad I pissed you off with first post & hope this one works as well.
Lastly, take advantage of the tuition reimbursement plan & take some reading and spelling classes.
Stay safe. There may be hope for you.
anomynous said ...
"To the SOS guys familes you are in my prayers and thoughts. You are innocent and need the support of the police family"
After reading these comments all I can say to the posters you are a bunch of ASSHOLES.
Was any of these sad comments made when the guys from 007th district got locked up and charged? HELL NO, so just because they're from SOS and white that they deserve this sympathy, FUCK NO so FUCK THEM.
So either be sad for all of the coppers locked up or be sad for none.
9/08/2006 08:09:34 AM
well, when the guys from 07 were locked up, I did not know about this website and you do not know I did not say this in person to anyone, there is more than the internet my friend. Also, you just did what other ignorant people will do to these guys pass judgement without checking out the facts first. You dont know me and you dont know them even as fellow officers. If they had gotten killed or something your hypocrite self would be at the funeral. do they have to die to get your sympathy right or wrong? do you post about the criminals you arrest or lose sleep over them?
I WAS IN SHOCK WHEN THE NEWS SHOWED SOME OF THESE GUYS BIENG WALKED INTO THE COURT HOUSE IN HANDCUFFS. A TERRIBLE THING. I STILL DONT BELIEVE IT.
9/08/2006 09:36:41 AM
You just graduated from the academy, right.
9/07/2006 08:15:53 PM
YOURE RETARDED>>> NO MORE POSTS FROM YOU!
Really, and you are SCC? Kid get real.
You really should graduate from the academy and get sometime on the job before you call me retarded.
I have been through and seen more scandals on this job than you ever will, and I have seen what the Department does afterwards. Let's see, thirty plus years.
Oh yeah, and I bet I have spent more time at IAD, OPS, and the Federal Building than you ever will. I will even bet I have more time getting laid in a squad car than you have on the job.
So go ahead kiddie kop, call me retarded. Call me what ever you want. At least I know what to expect and what to do and how to survive. So you can call me a retarded survivor.
But they made a movie about you. Based on your whole life story.
It was called "Clueless".
hey...508......fuck you. if you had any balls you'd say it to his face.
I had the experience of working for the county,chicago and now the state police and guess what; if you have political whack you can move to nice spots in all of these departments with the county being the easiest. As far as sos goes, yes there are alot of jaggs there but more than half the unit are nice guys who are always willing to help out the district coppers with no questions asked. when it comes down to it we should all make sure we all go home at night period. I think alot of cops have lost their focus, we have to remeber we are all 1 big family, you become apart of the family the second you take the oath and pin that badge onto your chest. It shouldn't matter what dept you work for or what unit within a dept, you should always be prepared to take 1 for your family meaning a bullet or a scandal. we will get through this if we all stick together. united we stand divided we fall........ lets not lose our focus!!!!!!!!
I WON'T SAY THEY SHOULD'NT MAKE BAIL BUT YEARS AGO WHEN THEY COPPERS IN 006 WERE ARRESTED FOR SHAKING DOWN DRUG DEALERS THERE WAS NO BAIL BECAUSE THEY WERE CONSIDERED "A DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY".THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE FED DID THAT INVESTIGATION.
Their legal fees are going to be astrnomical and we owe it to each other to pitch in......Sorry, if they did it we don't owe them anything. This is not a case of some mutt beefing on a few cops, and had it stuck in their ass by the Dept. This seems like a case of bad choice and criminal activity, choices they made and have to now live with if in fact they did it. We're not talking about kids here, theses are guys who are old enough to know what the consequences of their actions would be. If they did indeed commit criminal acts, then they deserve what they get, andhave no one to blame but themselves. I feel bad for the families, but that's what every copper should be thinking about everyday you go out in the streets, that is what's important, and you have to everyting possible to make sure that that's not taken away from you. Nothing on this job, NOTHING is worth going to jail or losing your family. Be safe all!!
TO ALL YOU CRY BABIES OUT THERE!
GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!
IVE BEEN IN SOS FOR 8YEARS & IM THE FIRST ONE IN MY FAMILY TO BE ON THE JOB! OH AND BY THE WAY I ALSO DONT HAVE A FREAKIN OUNCE OF CLOUT!!! IF I DID I WOULDNT BE THERE! I GOT THERE ON MY OWN MERIT. A HARD WORKING P.O. WITH AN EXCELLENT ARREST RECORD. I ALSO MADE IT ON THE SWAT TEAM! AGAIN W/O A PHONE CALL. I MADE IT ON MY OWN BASED ON MY SKILLS & OTHER QUALITIES!!! SO STICK THAT IN YOUR ASS ALSO! YOU GUYS AND ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THIS FUCKED UP DEPARTMENT MAKE ME SICK! NOT TO MENTION THE COMPLETE LACK OF STICKING TOGETHER AS REAL A POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF WIMPS AND PHONIES THAT THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL AND PRIDE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU BUY A POLICE MEMORIAL T-SHIRT. I KNOW ALL FOUR OF THESE GUYS. AND YES IVE BEEN SICK SINCE THIS STORY UNFOLDED. BUT DONT THINK FOR A MINUTE THAT IM GOING TO PASS JUDGEMENT ON THEM UNTIL THE FACTS ARE PROVED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. HEY TOUGH GUYS OUT THERE, THINK WHAT IF YOU WERE IN THEIR SHOES RIGHT NOW & YOU WERE INNOCENT??? THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS DEPARTMENT...NOBODY GIVES A RATS ASS ABOUT THE GUY SITTING NEXT TO YOU. AND THAT IS WRONG. ESPECIALLY THESES NEW KIDS COMING ON THE JOB. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE BROTHERHOOD?? BLUE IS BLUE. AND IF THEIR FOUND GUILTY, THEN IT WILL BE A VERY SAD DAY. IF NOT? THEN YOU SO CALLED "REAL POLICE" SHOULD BE ASHAMED THAT YOU PIN THAT STAR ON YOUR CHEST EVERYDAY!
PEACE OUT & MAY GOD BE WITH MY BROTHERS IN THIS TRYING TIME!
Seeing the comments about the overall impression of the members of SOS reminded me of why the majority of Tact/unit guys are new guys. They listen when told to do silly shit. After several years on Tact I started asking why or saying Im not doing that. So where is the supervisory accountability with the SOS ALLEGATIONS.
Also, our friends at the States Attorney's office put us in the position for beefs. Try getting a warrant, they say go to his house and get him. Demand we get statements. We came up with Investigative Alerts to let everyone know when there was probable cause to arrest, which is great. When the alert says NO probable cause, don't try to be cute and get in trouble.
It’s sad that this happened to these officers, but on the flip side, it makes the rest of us look like shit—thanks. I really hope that other officers in this special “elite” unit take a long look in the mirror and check their bad ass, arrogant, self centered, attitudes at the door when they come into the districts as result of these arrests.
The bravado exhibited by SOME of the officers in units like these are pathetic. I really don’t know why they must feel to look down at us lowly patrolmen—ohh that’s right, you’re a patrolman too. We all pushed a beat car at one time in our careers and because many of us do not have a phone call or china man doesn’t mean we are not hard working officers.
A while back, I was asked to go to SOS and I turned them down due to family issues. It could have been me in cuffs.
Bond was set $3.8mill JF, around $2mill for the other two and $1.5mill for CS.
I feel bad for the families.
Leave CS’s mother out of it! She is a wonderful person and any Officer that has come in contact with her has always, yes always been treated with respect. She always goes out of her way to help an officer when needed. Keep the families out of this mess. CS’s mom is a great lady. Doesn’t she have enough heart ache right now without you jerks bringing her into the mix? JEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
These aren't going to be the only one's going down in SOS.
More to come; but they wanted the big guns first.
Typical Chicago Cop carp, dumb asses.
It could have been me in cuffs.
9/08/2006 01:45:10 PM
You're a theif?
But to listen to all of these "ONE YEAR WONDERS" bad mouthing guys they don't know....
I got 7 years and I am badmouthing what they did.
9/08/2006 01:29:10 PM
You are exactly what is wrong with SOS and why other P.O.'s dislike the unit. I know J.F., C.S., & T.S. too. So fucking what? I won't hammer them, but I won't be buying tickets to any fundraiser either. Your "brothers" have disgraced me in front of my family & friends. I am embarrassed to mix with the public. And if you really are in SOS then you know the stories are crazier than anything posted here. This shit has been an open secret for at least two years. And leave the "brother" shit for the FDNY. There is a big difference between climbing a hundred flights of stairs to a certain death and criminal racketeering.
P.S.
Hope you caught Dallas SWAT on A&E last night. SWAT rocks!
HOW DIFFERENT ARE THESE GUYS THEN COMMANDER MATHEWS WHO CAME INTO THE 019 DISTRICT . PUSHED A P.O. AROUND THATS CALLED A BATTERY AND THEN NOT HAVE HIS CAR IMPOUNDED STEALING FROM THE CITY! THEN GOT DEMOTED AND GOT HIS JOB BACK! WHAT A JOKE!
To 9-8-2006 1:29....
Dear Mr "Tough SWAT Guy",
First of all....you must be the baddest mother fucker out there to address everyone else as whimps huh?? and then you brag about how you don't have any "clout" to get into SOS or on to SWAT...but I bet you're one hell of a suck ass!! I too was in SOS for many years and let me tell you Mr. Tough SWAT guy...you are the joke because you "think" that you are better than everyone on this department as your comments clearly display...If you're so proud of your "No clout hard work status" please tell us who you are so that we may use you as a model for all of us shitty lowly district scum....please teach us and tell us how great you really are so we may be so humble and "try" to be as great as you...please show us how its done... You are pathetic and guess what tough guy...one day you'll be back pushing a beat car too....you're career will not end in SWAT unless you're a dirty as Jerry and his crew...The simple fact that you know these officers as do I doesn't excuse their actions....I doubt that after a 2 year investigation the department and the State's Atty's office said "Awwww, fuck it we have nothing but we sure did waste a lot of time on this...let's indict these guys and see what happens." Is that what you really think you goof?? Then if so....you are as stupid as you portray yourself as being...you are a typical goof that thinks he is untouchable...mabye you need to be investigated as well since you tout these great guys as your innocent friends??? Furthermore Mr "Tough SWAT Guy" I wouldn't go around bragging that you are a "Tough SWAT guy" because the HBT/SWAT team in this city is a FUCKING joke and anybody that has an ounce of brain matter knows that you need to be connected to get on that lazy ass team ...I remember HBT guys weighing 400 + pounds!! They probably had no clout either and made it like you did on their..."Skill and hard work" too huh??? I can remember one in particular who was fired from the job for pissing hot...John Steele....he was a 400 puonder...he couldn't do one fucking sit up!! and that's a fact!! but his hard work ethic...like yours got him there....You're a real nitwit!!
9/08/2006 09:27:11 AM wrong, feds to IAD.and more people around the whole Dept.are under the microscope including the city and suburbs. Listen, if you don't think your being watched for any red flag (i.e, court attendance has always been watched since inception of signing in.) your wrong, the feds, city and state are tired of this crap for the past 20yrs, and feel it may get worse. Bottom line keep you self honest and tight.
Please take this sincere "F*CK YOU" to all the little young bitches that are wishing bad to other coppers (legit or crooks) to heart. No one who works the street is 100 per cent legit. When you kick a door in (good faith) chances are youre committing a crime. When you slap someone around and detain them while gatering facts youre committing a crime. When to take a couple of rocks off a dope slinger and give them to a informant youre committing a crime.Theres all different levels of crimes and crooks. The ends dont always justify the means. If a copper is white or of color it doesnt matter to me, he/she is still a copper.There are a lot of coppers I have met over 2 decades some I like ,some I dislike, some absolutely turn my stomache, but I came on the job when it was taught to buck up for the benefit. The facts look pretty bad in this case, but if just one of them is innocent I want to "buck up" and hope for the best. Remember it only takes 1 mistake or eror of judgement to put yourself in the septic tank. Good Luck to all involved and if you are fortunate enough to take heed and never allow yourself to be put in this situation again.
Who is the female involved in SOS ?
Let me start off by saying I don't condone what these officers are accused of doing but right is right. Where does this Judge get off setting 1,2or3 million dollar bonds for officers. That sucks bigtime. They don't deserve that kind of bond. There are assholes that go through the system charged with more shit then that and they get off with 1,2 or 3 hundred thousand dollar bonds . It ain't right for the state to ask for that. Shame on you ASA's I know you have a job to do but my God you didn't have to stick in their ass. May God have mercy on them and you to.I hope you can sleep tonight.
you little computer nerds love bashing the real police dont you!!!!! let them go to court, see a judge, be tried! you know the whole innocent until proven guilty. you cops make me laugh with your brotherhood b.s. talk. you are like a bunch of gossiping h.s. girls!
Shitballs charges with Murder don't get bonds that high with 5 previous felonies...... Innocent until proven guilty my ass...
I hope this is all bull and works out... :(
The reason everyone hates CS.....
9/08/2006 11:17:07 AM
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HEY 11:17
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF YOU JAGOFF!!
EVER WONDER THAT PEOPLE MAYBE SAYING THE SAME THING ABOUT YOU.
GO LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU SLIMY PIECE OF SHIT!
Hey SCC, I thought the point of delayed posting was to keep people from posting names. Still see that Mr. Anonymous likes to leave names and that you still post them. If the person has pled or been found guilty post their names. If not they are still innocent until proven guilty and the names should be omitted. Otherwise you are no differant than the Slum Times.
Which name? It's completely possible something may have slipped by us. We're running 3,000 hits a day and a couple hundred comments.
Sounds like there is a whole lot of bitter bitches out there who wish they could amount to something more than just an o'll regular beat/foot guy.
Keep up the great police work. Maybe someone should find you whinning broads a spot in TRU. Its not quite SOS, but if it will help you stop bitching and console you I'm all for it clout or no clout.
Sounds to me like they will have to plea since someone will flip on them If they dont they will get the max so look for 4 guilty pleas and many many years in prison
I WAS IN SOS AND DO NOT APPROVE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED. I AM NOW ON THE BOATS WHERE WE DO NOT DO THAT SORT OF THING. WE ARE OUT THERE ON THE WATER RISKING OUR LIVES IN AN EFFORT TO SAVE OTHERS. I REALLY FEEL WE SHOULD GET D-3 PAY.
GODS SPEED FRIEND,
SNIPER
When you kick a door in (good faith) chances are youre committing a crime. When you slap someone around and detain them while gatering facts youre committing a crime. When to take a couple of rocks off a dope slinger and give them to a informant youre committing a crime.
Or you can accomplish what needs to be done by doing it LEGALLY. Asshole apologists like you should be shitcanned.
The female is MH. Heard she was already stripped. Have seen her around, not looking too concerned.
The State of Illinois and our fine City has a nasty history of finding INNOCENT people gulty and letting guilty people go scot free.
I am disturbed when anyone gets the Trial BY Media. IF these guys are the least bit innocent, they will be made political SCAPEGOATS just like those Mearday coppers. They don't have a chance.
I am a little dumbfounded they are calling JF a RINGLEADER. WTF? Gimme a break. Shame on all those coppers who get put on some one else's paper when they didn't do jack. Good reason to steer clear of other peoples arrests.
Todays Police Corruption Book Recommendation: Serpico
The feds don't take cases until/unless you do the work for them and hand it to them on a silcer platter with a red bow.
The FEDS should have taken the case, MAYBE clout and biases could have been neutralized.
Anonymous said...
We have all done some things we are sorry for. Never past judgment on someone unless you judge yourself.
9/07/2006 11:53:46 PM
In 20 years on this job I've done plenty of fucking up.Yep,on duty and off.And I caught plenty of unpaid vacations,most of which I deserved.BUT....I've always managed to draw the line on felonies.You know,the shit people go to prison for.In every place I've worked, there were"rumors"about guys.Money guys,dope guys,security for dope/whore/gambling house guys,peel job artists,ring the bell...ding,ding!Some of these geniuses are still on the job,some were promoted,and quite a few are still in prison.Me,I like to sleep at night.And when it comes to thinking about going to the joint....FUCK THAT.Use your skulls for something besides squadcar sex,boys and girls.
Snipers on the boats? The Coast Guard will be jealous. Maybe you should get D-5 pay and a lifetime supply of 5x7 glossies to hand out to your adoring fans.
Exactly how many people have you sniped?
Hey, when's the benefit? Fuck J.F. & his whole crew! And if he has any friends, FUCK THEM TOO!
9/07/2006 05:08:48 PM
Some years back, there was a cop just like you. Hated all of his fellow cops, thought he was better than his fellow cops, and would not give a red cent to help his fellow cops.
The he gets jammed up over a total BS domestic violence beef. Bail was set high, the lawywers fees were murderous. He was stuck in the County for a few weeks. He was writing letters begging his fellow cops to have some kind of benefit to help him out. They all laughed at him. His letters were posted on the bulletin board with cruel remarks about what a JO he was.
He beat the charges, beat getting fired. People still laugh at him. It cost him everything he had over a BS beef.
There is a lesson here, if your head is not to dense to pick it up;
It could happen to you, or me, or anyone of us.
You better hope that before it happens to you, you can find a phone booth somewhere to hold your party in.
06:06:07 Obviously you are one of the friends. Too obvious. There are many stories in the naked city. Don't bore us with yours. Your comparisons fail because I don't beat my wife, rob dope dealers, or run around wearing a star while commiting various felonies, on or off duty.
I don't think I'm better than any other P.O.'s except the ones who do STUPID SHIT THAT EMBARRASES US ALL! I've been to more benefits than you ever have, and not just for P.O.'s, and have nearly gone broke doing it. You have not and never will be at any party that I hold or is held for me. You don't know who I am, do you? But I have a very good idea who you are. That bothers you. I am proud of all the good, honest, hard working Police Officers that I know and have known. I don't consider you to be in that category. I smell a phoney.
Or you can accomplish what needs to be done by doing it LEGALLY. Asshole apologists like you should be shitcanned.
9/08/2006 11:12:27 PM
Sorry 2 year on the job gel in the hair rookie, I came from a diffrent era than you....THANK GOD !
Anonymous said...
The feds don't take cases until/unless you do the work for them and hand it to them on a silcer platter with a red bow.
The FEDS should have taken the case, MAYBE clout and biases could have been neutralized.
9/09/2006 12:45:10 AM
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Agreed. The feds won't do anything unless it is wrapped up tight with a big bow. The feds aren't the police, they are CPA's and attorney's allowed to carry guns and go by the title "special agent" or "agent"....they are too scared to make any type of arrest and don't do anything unless it's OK with an AUSA on board. They are worthless and usually don't share information, but certainly want you to give info to them. They should have taken this case, shame on them.
1:56:50 You sound jealous! Yes I am on the boats so what I earned my way there. I worked very hard in SOS and now on the boats. Hard work and good work ethic goes along way. I became a diver on my own, paying for it while working side jobs. You see when you are trained in a high demand field you are in demand. And when I make Sgt. you can come work for me and I will show you what good hard work is. So dont be a little baby! BITCH.
Go Bears!!!!
BLACK EYE FOR CPD? well maybe but seen this type of scandals over and over each year or couple of years apart.
My question is why did this take over two years. This was not a federal investigation, it was apparently done by IAD. Now we all know that they don't employ the sharpest tacks in the drawer. In fact I have heard some singing praises to them for their stupidity.
This isn't the first scandal and it won't be the last that many of you young guys see in your careers.
Don't beleive this "black eye" shit or being embarresed crap. Worry about how you do your job not how someone else handles him or her self.
There is plenty of criminal stupidity among the upper ranks. This means from some of the newly promoted Sgts. Lts. Capt. up to 35th St.
If there was a real investigation a high percentage would be indicted or at least fired for neglegence, official misconduct etc. Yes, official misconduct on the "bosses" who promote assholes and incompitant goofs and the nitwit goofs for accepting promotions when they know they are goofs.
Can you jail some people for ignorance? If so, are the white shirts open game?
Tac Teams would have a field day with CB#s.
Don't worry about black eyes or bad publicity. There will be plenty more in years to come from incidents you havent heard and have yet to happen.
Sgt. J.E. hit the medical on Monday 09/11 at his new spot. You have to wonder why!! Not to bad mouth him and hopefully he'll be alright.
God help all of them.
Who cares if JE is on the medical,to the dog who wrote it,why don't you get a clue and worry about your own shit,woof woof
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