The Hammer Falls Today?
Authorities are expected to arrest four Chicago Police officers today in a corruption investigation that could lead Cook County prosecutors to drop more than 100 criminal cases because they were tainted by the allegedly crooked cops.
The officers are members of the department's elite Special Operations Section, a citywide unit that seizes guns and drugs in crime hot spots.
Four to be indicted today. We don't know what that means for the other five or what it might mean for anyone else caught up in this mess. Maybe they're only going to be charged Administratively? All that does is take away the prison aspect of it. You can still lose your job, your pension, and your house in a Civil suit.
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I hope that when the arrests are made, it wont turn in to an H.B.T. incident. Who would the responding officers summon to assist in such an incident? Their fellow comrades in S.O.S. of course. What a joke! I hope these guys get everything they deserve.
TS was arrested at call back already this morning.
When will some of the exempts who covered for these guys be held responsible for their actions? One in particular who has covered for rogue cops before.
This is just like the scandal with LAPD's CRASH unit. The city's gonna have civil suits coming out the wazoo.
SCC you have the scoop!!
Chicago's finest, eh?
So wait until AFTER becoming a PO to develop a rap sheet? I have never understood that about some of you guys!
You go through a long process to get hired, only to get insanely stupid and throw it all away for nothing!!
How stupid can you be to not realize you can make more money playing by the rules than by trying to get over on the system?
Does ANYONE who visits Second City Cop think this will teach ANY cops a lesson? I'd like to know!!!
my guess is it will be J.F., K.H., T.S., M.H.
2 down 2 to go
What the Heck is going on in 009??? I hear from a good source that the midnight captain is getting dumped to another district because when he was the acting DC he "uncovered" hundreds of hours of OT that the commander was giving his office staff for "admin work" Some of it was in time but most was in $$$$. Stay tuned
Fox 32 at noon just announced 4 CPD officers in custody, very sad.
Class X Felonies--ouch!
Every time the media refers to SOS as an "elite unit," I want to puke. What do they do that is so above and beyond what others of us in units, tact teams, gang teams and beat cars do?
There very well may be some good officers in SOS, but the actions of a dozen scumbags have tarnished our image yet again.
And if it is proven they did what is alleged, I hope they go to prison for a long time.
I go out there every night and bust my ass and somehow manage to come home without robbing or framing people.
I know the apologists will attack my critique, but they have no moral gound to stand on.
I am not attacking officers, I am attacking gangsters that somehow got hired.
The more that get locked up and sent to prison, the better for us honest guys.
How that the indictments are in, lets name some names of the "alleged" criminals.
Several property Crime Detectives made Sgt from A/4 and went directly to IAD. This was about 2 or 3 years ago. They bitched and moaned and swore they would leave ASAP. They're all still there. On Tuesday I was walking through 26th Street and 2 of them were coming in with files. I asked them what they were doing. They got this look on their faces like the secret was out. I wonder what they are going to get out of this? I know JF socially. If I were him I'd take heart in the fact that these goofs were running an investigation. The SA does have some good investigators though; I'd be worried about those guys.
If they are dirty then clean it up.
I'm tired of hearing about corrupt cops. If you take money or steal shit then go to fucking jail like everyone else.
FACT: They are at Maywood and will face bond court tomorrow. News conference 2:00 p.m. today at Police Headquarters. Now, PLEASE instead of bashing them, let us wait patiently and LISTEN. these are still people, they still have families, and they ARE STILL innocent until the conclusion of a trial.
Let us, for their families, wives, kids, and friends, give them a break today.
Watch the 2pm news for a press release, so I hear. Of course, this will be posted 12 hours after it airs.
Tomorrow, I will post the pick 4 lotto numbers in the same fashion...
the four sos officers were just announced on tv with multiple class x felonies
4 charged today, jf, cs, kh, ts
The hammer has dropped
Are they announcing sgts class tomorrow?
4 names, on cltv. court on fri
sad day for these officers
I tell you who "fell" today. Commander Powers formerly of the Personell Department passed away after a long battle with cancer. This was a fine man who handled many very difficult situations with tremendous dignity and decency.
He tried to get coppers the help that they needed without jamming them up. In some cases it was impossible because some of us will shoot ourselves in the foot despite the best efforts of those around us.
Here was a man who was in authority and had some power himself but he managed to keep his nose clean during a long career with the department. Our current brass and politions should learn from him
While there is no excuse for stealing and the other major crimes the Unit 153 officers are accused of, which go beyond the pale of the "Gray Areas" that any good cop has to sometimes operate in, one wonders if culpability lies not just with the accused and their supervisors, who may have had knowledge of the alleged corruption, but the unit and department as well. Being chided and encourgaed at roll call on almost a daily basis by your higher ups, to not just make a daily arrest, but "something good" can create a climate that makes some feel they are justified in their actions. The excuse for encouraging officers to make make arrests, no matter what, is usually blamed on the commander, headquarters and most recently the "D.O.C.", therefore, don't they also bear some responsibilty? Perhaps the best thing about being a supervisor on the C.P.D. is that their names rarely appear on any arrest report or case report, and, as a result, any accusations their charges must face can avoid them leaving maybe the slightest blemish or a "slap on the wrist". Supervisors usually are dropped from a team or a unit (and usually only for a small period of time) and rarely are suspended or prosecuted or face any real discipline. Doesn't immoral behavior breed immoral behavior? Whether police officers like to admit it or not, they represent the governmet to many people. Those in charge reflect on all of city workers in some way. If you have an immoral and corrupt group of men and women in charge of the goverment of this city, does it not surprise you that some of their employees would pick up on this and become corrupt themselves?
9/07/2006 01:36:07 PM:
Are you trying to say they are innocent? Don't make me laugh!
The government doesn't go after cops unless they have airtight cases. These guys deserve whatever they get. They are a disgrace to the thousands of us who do it right every night.
Who's got the names?
To 9/07/2006 01:36:07 PM..........
Shouldn't they have thought of their FAMILIES before they did all of this??
ITS FUNNY HOW THESE GUYS WERE YOUR FRIENDS YESTERDAY AND NOW ALL YOU BACK STABBING PUKES CONVICT THEM BEFORE THEY EVEN GO TO TRIAL. AND LETS NOT FORGET WHO THE ACCUSERS ARE. IF THEY'RE GUILTY BURN THEM BUT HEH LETS WAIT AND SEE!!!
Dammit, my family knows a few of these guys from the past, and like KH and TS. I hope none of this is true, but I'm one of the ones who believes the CPD is thoroughly compromised.
The greatest reservation I have here is that this is IAD doing the investigating and Devine doing the prosecuting rather than the FBI and Feds. When was the last time the Cook County State's Attorney was right in prosecuting ANY member of the CPD for on-the-job misconduct?
Innocent until proven guilty, especially in Cook County.
If they're innocent, then it will be almost impossible for any case to be proven in a court of law.
If they are guilty, then fuck 'em, they tarnished every honest cop on the job with their selfish bullshit.
Based on what is in the paper and on the news, I'd bet they're guilty as sin. Time will tell.
To 9/07/2006 01:28:54 PM,
You are correct. However, two of the African Americans were merit sergeants and are idiots. The lone M/W from property is pretty sharp and went there as a favor.
Hey 4:10- you sound like a dope dealer in Engelwood blaiming whitey. Take responsibility for your own actions and don't blame others. It's called being an adult.
it's funny how when "dink", Flagg and crew was arrested last year this bloggers on this blog never said they were stand up guys. No one stated lets see what happens in trial. EACH GROUP of Thiefs were aggressive in only stealing. The only difference is there "culture" That should not make a difference, both groups fucked us all as Police Officers. their is no way around that so fuck them. HOPE THEY HAVE FUN IN THE STATE PEN. New nicknames Shitty Booty.
This is a sad day for all of us. Long ago I abandoned the idea that the Drug War was good for America. The Drug War's issues with power, money and greed are worse than a bunch of stun out junkies. Here we get the best of both worlds, strung out junkies with the crime and corruption.
It's time for another O.W. Wilson and a new page for the CPD. This is far worse than Summerdale and Richard Morrison days
WOW! What amazes me most is that thge bloggers here have already determined that these officers are guilty. They won't even give these brothers the benefit of the doubt and wait until the trial is over.
NO, I am not is SOS and never have been, but I know that these negative bloggers must be the same that never do anything and have IAD/OPS on their speed dial; ready and willing to tattle for any violation.
I hope that the department, these officers and their families will be in everyone's prayers.
As for the people that blog here without knowledge, keep up the good work. Do us all a favor and shoot yourself in the foot so you can go on disability and leave us to the hard work.
DITTO on kudos to Cmdr. Powers.
A GREAT guy.
Sorry for mixing it up on this topic, but May He Rest In Peace.
Thanks, Bill!
9/07/2006 01:36:07 PM:
Are you trying to say they are innocent? Don't make me laugh!
The government doesn't go after cops unless they have airtight cases.
PUUULLLLLEEEEZZZ the government goes after anyone who they can get their face on the news prosecuting, or if you just pissed them off. been there done that. just decline to answer a g-man's question sometime and see how fast you wind up in the dock
Does ANYONE who visits Second City Cop think this will teach ANY cops a lesson? I'd like to know!!!
9/07/2006 09:38:36 AM
NOPE. Like my hero Forrest Gump says, "stupid is as stupid does."
It is too easy to throw blame around. Whose fault is it that these guys are in shit soup?
They did it to themselves and probably are going to take down their supervisors and command because of their actions.
It is their own fault. Is it my bosses fault, or the Command Staff fault, or the Superintendents fault if I steal?
They ruined their own lives, the lives of the HONEST cops they work with, and the lives of their families because of greed and their imbecile like brains that made them feel they would not get caught.
This is proof that there is no culture of corruption, as so many of you kiddie cops claim. It is proof that if you cross the line, you will pay the price. A very, very big price.
To 9/07/2006 01:28:54 PM,
You are correct. However, two of the African Americans were merit sergeants and are idiots. The lone M/W from property is pretty sharp and went there as a favor.
9/07/2006 05:48:45 PM
KB, JS, & Paul something or other are all white and off the list. TC is black and fucked up that case in 010 2 years ago. He was a Youth Investigator from SVU. Those 4 are IAD. BJ is a CAPS Sgt in 003. Even she was too stupid for IAD. They were both management Sgts.
Don't trust anyone. Only yourself. How well do you know yourself, let alone your partner? Surprised about CS? Gimme a friggin' break! Although I hear his daddy died on the job and his momma works at FOP. You bet the FOP will represent him, all the shit allegedly happened on duty, right? I want to know who is the weakest link? JB? Has he been a mole since he got transfered to FED?
...When was the last time the Cook County State's Attorney was right in prosecuting ANY member of the CPD for on-the-job misconduct?...
Chevas comes to mind.
"This is proof that there is no culture of corruption, as so many of you kiddie cops claim. - 8:02 PM
Oh, shut the fuck up, you sanctimonious prick. You know and we know that the corrupt patronage promotion and personnel policies of this dysfunctional department breeds, indeed even condones corruption.
You can't have a double standard.
Next, you will start proselytizing that this job is on the legit.
Drink your damn Kool-Aid with the rest of your gold braid assholes. Take your nauseating bullshit elsewhere, "boss"!
While I do not know any of the officers who were arrested, I give them the presumption of innocence unless and until they are proven guilty in a court of law.
Chevas comes to mind.
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It was (only slightly) over the top. There might be occasional examples, but they are few and far between. Not saying these guys are innocent or guilty, but I'll give the two my family knows and likes the benefit of the doubt.
What I am sure of is that the timing of this is at least a little political. 3 white guys and a hispanic guy, right? Just as they are announcing all the minorities thinking about running for mayor?
Daley and Devine want to be able to wave a few sacrificed heads in front of the masses so they can say "see what a great job we do uncovering corrupt white people in this city"? Maybe I'm too cynical, but two years to investigate this and it breaks just when Jackson Jr. and others look like they will be running?
This ain't random. These guys might not be innocent, but they sure as hell are being used as props this week.
RIP, Commander Bill Powers.
He was one of the nicest guys I ever met on this job. When I was in sergeant school, he was a Lt. in Personnel and talked to us about suicide and personnel problems with subordinates. At the end of the lecture, he gave out his office and home numbers and said that if he could help us out with anything, 24 hours a day, don't hesitate to contact him. How many bosses do that?
God bless you, Commander.
IT WAS SAD TO SEE THEM CUFFED AND BEING WALKED INTO JAIL. I HOPE AND FOR THEM. WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE AT THIS POINT
"Surprised about CS? Gimme a friggin' break! Although I hear his daddy died on the job....."
To: 10:53
What the hell is wrong with you bringing up someone's dead father? You are a real jerk with no class. Loser!
it's funny how when "dink", Flagg and crew was arrested last year this bloggers on this blog never said they were stand up guys. No one stated lets see what happens in trial. EACH GROUP of Thiefs were aggressive in only stealing. The only difference is there "culture" That should not make a difference, both groups fucked us all as Police Officers. their is no way around that so fuck them. HOPE THEY HAVE FUN IN THE STATE PEN. New nicknames Shitty Booty.
9/07/2006 06:36:41 PM
Thank You!!!
I said the same thing last week :-)
The only difference is....Don't need to speak it. As a matter of fact, the SOS guys are faced with more crimes than Dink and his suckers. 007th district produces top notch ring leaders. I know JF(ring leader) from 007 years ago.
I worked with CS's dad and he was one of the hardest working, honest P.O.'s you would want to meet. He wrote a lot of tickets and that did not make him so popular with drivers in the 1st district. His mother is a wonderful woman and this has to be killing her.
whats the difference between the cory flagg scandal and the sos scandal. and why no commits in favor of flagg. it's simple, the sos scandal were all white po's and had white friends or associates who all have computers and are willing to read stuff and post stuff on the computer. the corey flagg scandal involved all black offficers who are not likly to go on-line, have a computer or post stuff... I am not trying to be racist but I know that I hear more m2 or f2 talking about computer stuff than I do M1 or F1
Is there any truth that 4 guys from SOS are getting indicted for a bunch of misdeeds and that there might be even more coppers to follow? I keep hearing rumors but no one seems to be able to substantiate any of them...
9/08/2006 01:07:45 PM
Black officers have access to computers just like the white officers. I've posted my comments on here but for some reason, my comments are not appreciated by the blog author. Is it because I have nothing good to say about the officers arrested yesterday??
TO 10:39
I don't think the M/B Sgt. TC had anything to do with this case, and he did not fuck up the 10th district caper--the ADS did. Between her and the union rep, I don't know who was more culpable. Philly wanted to push that one under the carpet cuz' he didn't want any scandals on his watch. In the end the judge made the final verdict. Just wonder how fat that check was.
The M/W TC used to do Police Impersonations which makes him a natural. There are tons of Accused: Unknown; Not sustained cases out there. Those cases should be looked at.
o1-07-45 GET A LIFE... Poor me, you wont post my thoughts because i'm a poor black man...Why not sue and get a computer posting quota ordered by the a-hole political hack federal judges sitting at 219.
It would probably work before those liberal hacks.
What was the 010th District caper that was allegedly fucked-up? was it about the suspected narcotics in a brief case that the PO refused to allow IAD to examine without a warrant? Or something else?
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