This is Interesting
And you know there's meat to it because they published it in the Saturday paper. From the Sun Times:
- African-American aldermen accused Police Supt. Phil Cline on Friday of masterminding a reorganization that "castrated" his black first deputy.
Thirteen months ago, Cline redefined the role of First Deputy Supt. Dana Starks in a way that removed the No. 2 man from day-to-day control over the department.
Starks was stripped of authority over both the 9,000-officer Patrol Division and the Special Operations Section, the elite unit where four officers stand accused of theft, home invasion and kidnapping of suspected drug dealers.
Wow. Are they trying to drive a wedge between Starks and Cline or what? And what's with the mention of the Special Operations scandal? They trying to keep this thing fresh?
Actually, from everything we've heard, the wedge between those two is pretty big already. They are on two different sides in the great political game. The way we heard it, Starks got hammered 13 months ago shortly after the aborted attempt to force 10 hour days in two southside districts and Cline got blindsided by the FOP's calls to find out what the hell was going on. Combined with a number of other incidents of the First being a little too proactive in his management style, he was cut out of the loop and Charlie Williams was designated the "team player." That hasn't stopped the First from placing a number of his Lieutenants in various Districts across Area 2 (allegedly in violation of a number of seniority clauses of existing contracts) and no end to Cline's headaches.
But this wasn't all:
Actually, from everything we've heard, the wedge between those two is pretty big already. They are on two different sides in the great political game. The way we heard it, Starks got hammered 13 months ago shortly after the aborted attempt to force 10 hour days in two southside districts and Cline got blindsided by the FOP's calls to find out what the hell was going on. Combined with a number of other incidents of the First being a little too proactive in his management style, he was cut out of the loop and Charlie Williams was designated the "team player." That hasn't stopped the First from placing a number of his Lieutenants in various Districts across Area 2 (allegedly in violation of a number of seniority clauses of existing contracts) and no end to Cline's headaches.
But this wasn't all:
South Side aldermen were furious about Cline's decision to transfer Calumet District Cmdr. John Matthews amid allegations that Matthews interfered with officers in the arrest of his son.
"It doesn't pass the smell test," said Ald. Anthony Beale (9th).
Troutman demanded to know "how many hidden Burges are out there"
Furious that their guy wasn't given preferential treatment when he "allegedly" acted like an asshole and tried to get officers to violate how many state statutes, municipal ordinances and Department policies to get his kid out of trouble? What the fuck? Isn't it enough that the 019th District didn't tow his damn car? Guess not.
And of course, the clown prince tops all:
And of course, the clown prince tops all:
- And then, there was downtown Ald. Burton F. Natarus (42nd), who wants Cline to order police officers who walk around writing parking tickets to issue another ticket -- to dog owners who fail to pick up after their pets.
posted by SCC at 6:20 AM
64 Comments:
uwcngaThe sad thing is that they are correct. If Starks is that incompetent, and he is, get rid of the son of a bitch.
Why didn't Starks just tell the truth,when asked? And WHY is the media just NOW deciding to write about this? This isn't news, this is OLD NEWS! Jeez, at least everyone involved in stripping down Starks should be adult enough to admit it when pressed for an answer. Cline and co. can't hide the elephant in the bathroom forever.
'That's ridiculous'
With Starks sitting uncomfortably near Cline in the City Council chambers, Ald. Arenda Troutman (20th) said, "You are a fine credit to the Police Department. I only wish you had more power."
Obviously, this aldermoron doesn't know him!!
Doesn't 012 already have a dog-pooping mission??? Maybe this could be the new "elite unit" on the department. What a way to tie up more of our already dwindling man power. Squad, I need to order up an E.T. to recover some poop for possible DNA, it's by the car I ticketed for being more than 12" from the curb. OFF TOPIC, glad the PO from TRU is ok.
You can rest assured that...
1. Starks leaked that loss of power to the aldercreatures himself and then feigned indignation when asked about it. "Bravo!" nice performance Dana.
2. Keeping the pot stirring over SOS will assure you that the aldrecreatures will demand and have a LARGER ROLL in who will be the next 1st and Sup.
3. more heads will ROLL over the SOS fiasco.
4. 1st and 18th District will not only be handing out ANOV's to pooch poop offenders, but they will be handing out official "recycle the poop blue bags to area residents to pick up their pooch's dog rockets. Until of course they ANOV the wrong SOMEBODY and will be assigned to pick up the POOP themselves and Dana Starks will be given authority of that unit.
5. former Commander John Matthews is STILL an asshole ,with a scumbag son.
The way we heard it, Starks got hammered 13 months ago shortly after the aborted attempt to force 10 hour days in two southside districts and Cline got blindsided by the FOP's calls to find out what the hell was going on.
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Starks was switched cause he was Meek's lapdog going on talk radio yapping about that set up job on the 5th Dist Sgt.
With Starks sitting uncomfortably near Cline in the City Council chambers, Ald. Arenda Troutman (20th) said, "You are a fine credit to the Police Department. I only wish you had more power."
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This is rich. Troutman was the one who passing intel (and her car) to her gangbanger boyfriend!
More power, indeed.
They're just acting the fool likes they posed to do. Let me ax (actual pronunciation utilized by Aldercreature Troutman when questioning the Superintendent) you this, bees anyone surprised by this? When your constituent group is comprised of thieves and murderers you have to lash out at the Poooooolice to keep your seat in the hall of fools (commonly known as the City Council).
My personal opinion on the topic is we need more Jon Burges’. Maybe those members of the “community” committing crimes would think twice before they "acted the fool.” They need to know there consequences associated with their actions. The cards have been stacked against the Police over the past thirty years. We need something to "level the playing field" (one of my favorite quotes). Yeah right! Idiots of all ilks’ need to have a little street justice administered when necessary.
Speaking of fools, don't you just love old Burt. He's always good for a laugh.
Ax – an Ebonics term utilized by the grammatically challenged amongst us. Word is actually ask – to inquire. AX is defined as an instrument utilized to whoop someone up sides the head.
Don't these people have better things to do, such as getting better jobs in our neighborhoods, working on crime, affordable rental/mortgage, etc??
LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!!!
Next, there going to complain that we only issue tickets to black dog owners only. So make sure you proove them wrong. Only issue to black dogs. The animal kind.
Burton Natarus also said he would like to see 2 Chicago Police officers ARMED with shot-guns standing outside the Bars and clubs in his ward. Because people get crazy when they drink.
He saw this recently on an overseas trip and thought it was a fabulous idea.
I LIKE IT TOO! However, I am serious..and I think he was just being facetious.
The First deputy spot after Townsend and thomas is a nothing show up when you want no work job! It should be eliminated that is why Cline has a commander Gross who helps handle the day to day operations Starks is beholden to the notoroius Westside mininsters coalition that is his clout but with all his mistakes and incompetence Cline cannot let him make any decisions look at his girl penelope trahaunas in detached services who has everyone else do her work but makes a great salary who is in charge?
Naturus needs to retire along with stone,burke and all the old folks we retire are forced at 63 but these clowns stay forever! Hey i am the alderthief I am powerful! We do not even need them just call 311 and get your seweres cleaned! Waste of money over 100K year big budgets and staffs
God these aldermen are idiots! The stuff they say and get away with amazes me more and more every day. As for ex-Cmdr Matthews the only reason he was not shot that night in 019 was because the Desk Sgt recognized him when he came in. He came in acting the fool with his gun showing and did not identify himself. But of course I'm sure that if he was shot that would have been racist also.
With Starks sitting uncomfortably near Cline in the City Council chambers, Ald. Arenda Troutman (20th) said, "You are a fine credit to the Police Department. I only wish you had more power."
Who the FUCK are they to decide who has power on this department. The only knowledge of policing these alderscum have are probably calling the police when their relatives get locked up so they can be taken care of.
Tillman, Troutman and Beale can all go get fucked. What a bunch of under-educated, over-paid losers. Oh yeah, and "Commander" Matthews as well. Racist hacks!
Ald. Ariel Reboyras (30th) added, "If I'm going to go to jail, I want to see a Hispanic judge in front of me who is at least going to be sensitive to what we're dealing with."
Who the fuck is this loser now?!
Why wasn't it mentioned the reorganization shifted power to Charlie Williams? Are the alderman trying to make this a racial issue or is it more a clout issue?
So are we talking about Cline, the guy who made some guy a meritorious SGT. because he was to busy raising a family, or are we talking about the Cline the honorary member of Meeks church, or maybe it was the Cline who offer up to the Media and political concerns the carcass of the nearest standing P.O. The 1st Dpty has historically been in charge of the day to day operations of the dept. just as simple as that. It appears that when the first minority took this post, some decided that this should changed, maybe a good thing, maybe a bad thing. Hopefully the powers to be will realize that the 1st dpty office will never ever be what it used to be. I seen to many times where Starks had been blinded sided by area chief's and CLINE allowed it, perpetuated and encourage it. Starks has played the same game that every other person in that position has done, singling him out as if his actions are some sort of brand new abuse/misuse or dictatorial practices is just plain wrong.
The "City Council budget hearings?" It sounds more like the fuc%in' Amos and Andy show.
Black alderman ticked off cause the brother don't have "power"? Matthews 'set up' by the man, then, this crazy senile Natarus starts talking about the soft-ball yuppies and their dogs and dog-shit???
Oh, and of course you have to ask how many Burges are out there.. THAT IS a very important fiscal question. Yeah, sounds like a budget hearing to me - Chicago style. No wonder our taxes have almost doubled. Every one of these incompetent bastards should be indicted.
I'm just counting the days left that I can leave this shit-hole city.
Now, we know even more about Starks and his clout.
We know the majority of us on the job who are trying to work, regularly complain about all the clout promotions and what a negative factor it has on the daily operations and how these promotions via clout can seriously aid furtherance in mismanagement, which leads to compromising safety for our Officer's.
Now we read a bonafide presentation of the fact, of exactly why clout boss's should be eliminated along with their clout.
Anyone see a potential strong arm movement in the back wings to replace Cline with Starks via Starks clout by using the news as a tool? Sure it's Sat. news but it's a lead teaser watch for a follow up, It's Election time friends.
Why do these same Alderperson's irresponsibly continually keep raising and using racism as a tactic? Simply, It works for them. Their current tool is White Burge. This is more power play on their part then it is of true concern. It's dirty and dangerous politics for the well being of this entire city.
First there was the Holocaust and Burge parallel now it's Starks and Burge? Same Alderperson's every time with the race baiting, now their doing it for our Deputy. Boy I feel better already. What their doing is baiting militant action against the police and this is cause for concern.
Thank you 1st Dep. Starks for the poisoned candy just prior to Halloween and your true once masked agenda, (YOURSELF!) Let us add by allowing yourself to be willingly used as a tool for your agenda and your clouts profit and power play at any cost, we all end up paying the ultimate price.
(SAFETY!)
Anyone else noticing criminals trying to physically disarm police and cause them harm or more frequent attacks against police again?
Starks had no problem accepting his promotion based on his clout and now he wants his chapter rewritten by his clout for their preference and control at any cost? Whose the real crybaby now Boss? At least we whined about why it's always been WRONG!
What your balling and clout race baiting warriors are actually doing is creating further harm to this department along with compromising officer's safety and the safety of our citizens. Were target enough don't you think boss?
Its nice the Sun-Times didn't say anything about Commander Matthews pushing the desk sergeant in 019
The DOG ass Alderman like to complain about everything but themselves. They need to be held more accountable what goes on in their wards. Look how dirty the streets and the alleys are. And how about the abandoned houses, 5-10 abandoned houses on each block. Again, again a good refection how the alderman really care about thier wards and the community they serve. Some alderman should not be re-elected the next time around.
How many White officer's has Starks castrated through his phone calls and accepted favor's to other boss's screwing over and bricking Officer's? Bet there are quite a few. Naw, business as usual for the clout monger's like Starks. Maybe they need to come forward and demonstrate who the real victims are, but wait their not on the clout advantage pay to play score board, like Starks is. So their true complaints are always dismissed and for bringing up the issue their names are passed around in further effort to destroy their careers. Boss's like Stark, is exactly why we remain Anonymous regardless of the shades of our skin.
Clout has grown grossly out of proportion. What we have is a lack of Ethics and Corruption all rolled into one and the pay to play continue to get away with it. These clout mongers appear to be made of Teflon no fear no worry and their getting bolder.
All Starks has done is just throw out his true color and it's not to be confused through the rants about the shade of his skin either. It's all about STARKS personal ploy and his corrupt Politician playmates rants and their needed votes to stay in power nothing else matters, nothing!
Ending the article about the dog's highlighted the Starks story. Here we have the same Alderman who went after an officer who was enforcing the dog leash laws doing his job, now this same Alderman wants us to do Sh%T Patrol. Were at a new cross roads fellow officer's. At least the article reflected and substantiated we have gone to SH%T! Isn't that what we have been saying all along?
Didn't the alderman already get into it with one of our coppers when he objected to the copper taking appropriate police action against a pet owner for not restraining their dog?
I still have the photo from the times of the officer making his point to the alderscum (framed on the wall). we miss you at 025, GR.
One of the many differences between Cline and the previous superintendents, he is and always have been a hands on guy. And always had innovative plans to fight crime He is not a lap dog he is a progressive person.
SCC, this isn't news. Every copper in the city knew about Starks' de-balling last year. If the Aldermen are too stupid to figure it out until now, then it's on them.
And don't think that Cline is above promoting incompetent nincompoops based on clout. Look at the new commander of 5. 14 years on the job, hates patrolmen, and notoriously stupid.
oh well, "C'est la vie."
POOR STARKS: Winter is coming and he wont be able to sit on that bench outside the back foor of 35th st with his cadre of bullet proof desk bunnies anymore.
It's really a sight to see, that moron and the giggling a-holes he surrounds himself with.
Isn't Troutman the gangster diciple on the shitty council?
You know what is really interesting is the silence coming from FOP on the shit that is coming down on officers with twenty or more CR numbers. Why are we paying those union dues?
SCC, this isn't news. Every copper in the city knew about Starks' de-balling last year.
It's only interesting that it got brought up now. We wrote about it when it happened 13 months ago. Someone is trying to make political hay out of the whole situation - we're just trying to figure out whom.
SCC, in the days of old man Daley, Wards were able to pick the Police Commanders. Does that still occur?
Also, weren't some of these Aldermen supporters of honoring the violent group, the Black Panthers, and now they're bitching about police brutality? Just wondering.
IT seems as if history si repeating itself. Old man Daley wanted to bring the Pan-Am here to distract from the ongoings occuring in our city, and now little Richie seems to be in his steps.
Malcolm, you racist:
Name the last superintendant that was "his own man".
Here's a hint: there never has been one. They're all puppets to the mayor in this city. That's the way it's always been. Deal with it.
Rumor ville has it: Fat Phil couldn't cut his own balls off, IT WAS DALEY! WHEN STARKS DECIDED TO START LEEKING INFO TO THE MEDIA ABOUT THE MEEKS CAPER!
Starks is lucky he wasn't TOLD to RESIGN!!! Especially after showing up at Mayors office with the reverends to stand up for him and being told to "GET OUT"!
Just Rumor, but sounds credible!
WE ALL KNOW WHO RUNS THE DEPT!
F.O.P. friends of Phil will never say anythuing and ruin their chances at great spots when they lose in the next election!!
FOP = DID NOTHING FOR ANYONE AND NEVER NEOGOTIATED A CONTRACT.
THANKS ARBITRATOR!!!
Hillard promoted Dana Starks initially with the encouragment of Jimmy Whigham.
Cline agreed to make Starks the 1st Deputy in exchange for Alderman Beavers support in the give and take prior to his becoming Superintendent.
Starks made Regina Evans a meritorious lieutenant with the encouragment of both Whigham and Beavers.
Lieutenant Evans interceded on two different occasions to interfere in the arrest of her husband's relatives.
Beavers and Whigham both desperately want the "Toddler" elected.
Vote on election day.
One of the overiding reasons why he got cut down is because while Cline was out of town, Numb nuts was taking meetings with South and West side Holy men. This was an attempt to effectuate a political coup, solidifiying himself for a future run at the top.
Heard it from Legal Affairs Lawyer.
P.S. It didnt help that he dresses like a pimp on occasion
It appears that when the first minority took this post, some decided that this should changed, maybe a good thing, maybe a bad thing.
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The only reason the 1st was the lead role was bec the less than qualified MINORITY Supes were just that, less than qualified.
Gotta love those racial quotas. Only the best for America!
For what it's worth...someone mentioned Starks and white guys. Well, I'm white and so are my friends. Starks was our boss in 011 (both watch and district commander). I can't say one bad word about him and neither can my friends. It's possible he changed, but I can only go by how he treated us...he was a prince!!
In regards to Lt Evans interceding on behalf of her relatives, what about her husband the Sgt Evans allegedly attempting to take off with a female "friend's" car 15 Oct after it was involved in a hit and run in Beverly? The hubby allegedly jumped in the car in front of an 022 P.O. who had the lights on, and was blocking traffic, awaiting a tow......also refuse to identify himself as a Sgt until the P.O. cornered him and started reaching for the gun....then calls ADS into station to start bitching about the "foul-mouthed" 022 P.O. who made him feel bad...ADS sticks up for him of course, because the race game was played....
it's amazing how the police dept, white aldermen, chicago's liberal media bow down to chicago's do nothing-know nothing black aldermen. it's f#$ed up how the black aldermen get paid to play the race card on every issue and no one (media, phil cline, the white aldermen, etc) dont have the balls to stand up to them
The other quid pro quo that "Phat Phil" received from Beavers for going along with the elevation of Starks and Evans is the Alderman who used to worry about ovese police officers no longr has any thing to say on that subject.
Vote early and vote often.
HE'S 2ND IN COMMAND OF THE DEPARTMENT, STILL GETS PAID A BOAT LOAD OF MONEY AND NOW HAS LESS RESPONSIBLITY...SOUNDS LIKE MY DREAM JOB, WHAT THE PROBLEM?
Why does it seem that officers rant negatively about Starks, and seem to support the scandal with the SOS officers? Am I getting this wrong? Shouldn't we be extremely against the actions of SOS?
This department is so divided by black and white its ridiculous. It should all be right and wrong. I hate hearing how white officers are so right when they're wrong, and how black officers are just wrong all the time? Racial tensions are brewing in alot of districts, and i've been in many.
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you forgot the part about Regina Evans shooting her POS husband in the leg while domesticating, and him making out a false veh hij report.
Lt. Evans made it on the list. If you know anything you can't make merit with a open C.R. Dumbass.
Not related to or very friendly with Lt. Evans.
As usual most morons on this site leaving comments wouldn't know how to do legitimate police work if it bit them in the ass. And as far as those cowards who beat the 5th. District Commander's son once he was in cuffs and taken away from the scene.There is a witness to the incident; at the original location and by the time you cowards made it to the 19th. District. I hope all of you coward ass punks get your indictments soon.
Cline may well regret the decision of 005th District Commander. Williams will rise or fall on his own, "daddy" Williams won't be blamed, as his career with the CPD ended many years ago. Personally, I wish him the best; like it or not, the decision has been made, and he now has one of the most stressful positions on the dept. Hope he truly can rise to the demands of the job. It does no good to criticize and name call. If he does well, it reflects well on the entire dept. At 37 yoa, he has a long way to go on this job as an exempt. While I don't personally know the man, all I can do is wish him well, and hope that he is truly up to the challenge. Morale has been beaten out of the troops out that way, most of the tact/gang teams out that way are
(I hear) performing sub-par, so hopefully the changes he's made since his arrival will begin to make a favorable show, and soon.
scc, shame on you posting that message from "old grey guy." If that is not a prime example of the old race-baiting posts you've been accused of posting in the past, then I don't know what is. Heck, I'm not black, and I found it to be offensive. Wake up guys! You say you're reading the posts and cleaning up your act, and then post some garbage like that. If you truly are going to clean up this blog, at least make a sincere effort at consistency...
You guys need to lay off Matthews. Whatever went down out there in 019, he's paid a heavy price for it. His kid is still charged with a felony, and it's likely he'll get convicted of it.
There's probably plenty of blame to go around on both sides. God knows Matthews has borne the brunt of it. It's over; let it be.
Before this happened, I didn't know anyone who had anything bad to say about the guy. The interesting thing here is, the SOS guys are defended all around the city (even here on this blog), and EVERYBODY knows they were thieves!
I haven't seen the SOS guys or their alleged actions defended, in fact, most on here were very harsh in their criticisms of the entire situations. It is a blackeye to the entire department when these scandals surface, true or not. The publics perception is that if it's in the news it must be true. The whole department is feeling the effects of this one and will for a long time.
Always a black & white issue. Im so dam sick of this shit!
Dorthy T & your crew, Let it go already.
Starks was castrated for a number of reasons and all of them included stabbing Cline in the back.
Starks was leaking sensitive information on OPS and IAD investigations to the preachers and aldermen, he was trying to implement policies contrary to what Cline wanted, the Chiefs were all complaining about his being inept and incompetent, aside from being dumb. Due to his clout, when it came down between the Chiefs and Starks, the Chiefs were told either keep quiet or resign.
Every chance he got, he triedto bad mouth Cline to the Aldermen, preachers, and even the Mayor.
The final straw was when he got caught leaking information to Meeks on the 005 Sergeant and when Maurer finally said enough and quit.
You can only stab your boss in the back so many times and not kill him. Then he comes back at you. Starks is lucky he was not dumped and if his road show keeps up, he will be more than that.
What are you smoking? Lt Evans absolutely made it by clout, other Lt's that made it with her are po'ed because she made it with them and jumped over a whole bunch of people. She should be in jail like the rest of her family, another waste of a merit fuck..
Can't wait to retire from this job.
10/22
8:04pm
We really do have some naive people on this job. On this department you can make meritorious if you're a fucking serial killer if you git the right clout.
Calumet District? Remember when it was just plain old fashioned Pullman?
Then as it changed demographically, shall we say, and the shootings went up like 1000 percent the Holy Reverends out there pressured the CPD and press to change the name to Calumet so they wouldn't be so embarrassed every day in the press by the actions of their flocks.
Didn't the feds find Chicago Police mail in Arenda Troutman' boyfriend's apartment last year? Isn't he one of the high ranking Black Disciples from 6217 S. Calumet and a fugitive from justice? Boy, I sure do wish Starks had more power too!
Did'nt Starks dump all the Whites and Hispanics when he became Deputy Chief of Area Five and replace them with Blacks. And they still promote him.
Starks wasn't IN Area 5 long enough to dump "all the whites and Hispanics" from that office. I think he was promoted to 1st D/S
after about 5 months there (and maybe not quite that long).
Did'nt Starks dump all the Whites and Hispanics when he became Deputy Chief of Area Five and replace them with Blacks. And they still promote him.
He dumped almost the whole office staff. He brought his own people in. When a boss gets made, he can take his people with him.
Anonymous said...
For what it's worth...someone mentioned Starks and white guys. Well, I'm white and so are my friends. Starks was our boss in 011 (both watch and district commander). I can't say one bad word about him and neither can my friends. It's possible he changed, but I can only go by how he treated us...he was a prince!!
10/22/2006 09:11:48 AM
Hey whitey, I was in 011 too and he didn't bother me at all either, but ask previous partners of the CAPS mission team how GREAT a boss he's been to them. These coppers busted their asses for this clown and when he got made 1st DEP, and even to this day, he has done NOTHING for them.
Come to think of it, the only persons he's "taken care of," are blood and color ties.
Figure that out, ASS kisser.
Starks has brought plently of "variety" to his staff in the tower. Whites, blacks AND latinos.
I'm willing to bet he has the most diversity of any boss's staff down there. Don't rag him out about things you know nothing about.
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