Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Portent of Things to Come?

It must be nice to be able to pick and choose a successor for your job without any sort of input from actual voters as Aldercreature Beavers has now done. It must also be nice for the executive of the city to have appointed something like half of the aldercreatures currently serving, thereby granting them the all important gift of "incumbency" when they run for office again. Not too much "quid pro quo" going on in the most corrupt city in the nation, eh? Sun Times and Channel 7 coverage.

And not only did "da mayor" (or "dayor" according to the CBS 2 link) appoint an additional 3 aldercreatures to the City Council Tuesday, he appointed three women. Which brings to mind an interesting question for the police department:
  • Kirby or Maher?
Based on the mayor's appointments of aldercreatures, conversations we have had, and just observations of the facts at hand, we are becoming convinced that the next Superintendent of this Department will be a woman - probably one of the two we just named. Two years ago, we'd have said the Chief of Detectives had the inside track, but now the ADS of IAD has been getting a lot of face time due to the recent scandals and everyone knows the mayor runs as a "reformer" when things get tough.

Any speculation in the comments section will be monitored overly closely. No misogynist ramblings. No crude references to body parts. We mean it.

123 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

God help us all if it is Maria..her hubby rick would be okay though. He's got my vote!

Never met Kirby though..however, the one that I keep in my hall closet has always been reliable!

Hey lets throw caution to the wind and shake up this department..I SAY CYNTHIA WHITE FOR THE NEXT SUPERINTENDENT!

(trembling)

Whew..(Just woke up) it was all a BAD DREAM! Oh shit, I think I wet my bed! Damn!!!!!

12/13/2006 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and do these ladies get to enjoy the concealed carry priviledge immediately?

I wish I could find a nice suburb near the Lake and Id move

12/13/2006 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Maria gets it, lets all chip in for a makeover from Oprah! And a gift card from Lovers Lane!

12/13/2006 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous CPD retired said...

Who are Kirby and Maher?

Former street coppers with hundreds of Part I felony arrests?

Great leadership qualities?

Well respected by the rank and file?

12/13/2006 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it is highly likely that the next Superintendent will be a woman. I have also heard that certain key people think that the time is right for a female. Kirby, Maher or Skahill would have a shot at it, with Kirby or Skahill having the inside track.

12/13/2006 12:54:00 AM  
Blogger Murphy40pct said...

If it must be...please be Kirby. Maher is not a smart woman. She does not know how to talk to people, does not know how the department functions, does not know Department policies, and does not know the law. Kirby is intelligent, hard working, and not a political hack (correct me if I'm wrong). She made her name by developing domestic violence guidelines-which means she at least did SOMETHING. Maher has done nothing in her career...unless mastering the look of smug ignorance is an accomplishment. She is terrible as Chief of Detectives, and will be one more blow to the already low moral of the Department.

12/13/2006 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about pointing out that they're useless on this job? Is that O.K.?

12/13/2006 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hire a Superintendant from OUTSIDE the CPD! This dept. is nothing about Police Work! It's numbers, bullshit stats and patronage for the bosses!

12/13/2006 02:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirby has worked hard at every position she has had. Between the two, she has earned her bones.

12/13/2006 02:49:00 AM  
Anonymous The View said...

I would have to agree with "anonymous (2:49AM) about Kirby. She was a well respected Detective when she was assigned to Area 2 many years ago. She was known to be professional, efficient, and very competent.

On the other hand, the "20 CRs/5 yr. rule" stinks. I believe, however, that this did not come from Kirby herself, but that, like others who find themselves in civil/political hot seats, it is coming from the Law Dept.

Kirby herself is also a lawyer.
So is Skahill. I could live with either one. Can't really say anything negative concerning Maher, as I've had very limited contact with the Chief of Detectives. She seems competent enough.

12/13/2006 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirby is highly intelligent. She is a lawyer and was a Fulbright scholar in college. She also comes from a police family. (On her mother's side, and the name was not Kirby) Her clout is Sheehan, Hynes, and the 19th Ward. If the next superintendent is to be a female, Kirby is far and away the most competent. But when did that ever have anything to do with it?

12/13/2006 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirby has worked hard at every position she has had. Between the two, she has earned her bones.

12/13/2006 02:49:23 AM

Stop kissing ass, Keith!

12/13/2006 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tina Skahill would be a great choice. She knows the job inside and out and does not play the race card. I say if they need to make Kirby, make one of them the Supt and the other one the 1st Deputy. Forget about Maher!!!!!

12/13/2006 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SOMEONE WHO KNOWS POLITICS SAID:

SCC, I don't think you are to far off with your assumptions. But, at the moment, I really don't think the Mayor is going to make either one of the ladies Supt.

Huberman really has his sites on being the next Supt. Now, try this on for size... Huberman as the next Supt. and for the first time ever a female as the 1st Dep.

That would make good political sense to me, don't you agree?

12/13/2006 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully it will be Kirby, not only is she a smart and fair person, she is something nice to look at!!!

12/13/2006 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've met Maher and she was polite. I didn't let that fool me. I know from other people who have or work for her that she is a two faced, smug, incompetent bI$%h. She would be a throwback to Rodriguez, arrogant and to good for the lowly PO.

I don't know anything about Kirby. What you read so far about her makes me think she would make a good superintendant for the citizens and bad for the working coppers. Those of us who work know domestics are 99% bullshit and the caller should be the one going to jail for fileing a false police report. She is in IAD so we know she has had the heat on her since the SOS scandal. She would fold under the pressure and send the working police to the wolves.

On to T Skahill. I've heard alot of good things about her. I've dealt with her and she seemed like she had no common sense. I think that says it all right there.

In my opinion the next Supt will be black. I don't think gender will matter. C Williams has got to have the inside track. If I was in charge the next Supt would be an outsider. That would lift morale on this dept higher than all the crackheads on the westside on a Saturday afternoon.

12/13/2006 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Kirby has worked hard at every position she has had. Between the two, she has earned her bones.

12/13/2006 02:49
Except being a patrolmen and a everyday cop. She is a desk beast like all the rest of the uselessness on this job

12/13/2006 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All 3 are terrible and inexperienced as street cops,dont have a clue as to what is going on or how its done, I dont care if they have 30 years on, They've done nothing as a PO, what did they do their frist 10 years on this job? Not Police work, thats for sure! We need someone from an outside big-city Dept. like NY or LA who can make some changes and put us into the 21st century. We have too many morons in command positions who like to "go with the flow"

12/13/2006 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Outta da two..KIRBY is easier on the eyes...

12/13/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

These people act as if our city is a mom and pop business, a bakery store of sorts, and they're handing it off to a family member(s).

To make it worse, are the people who live here. They have become immune to the corruption, don't care, or just don't get involved.

This city has fallen apart. It's ghetto and people are a bunch if sheep here...

12/13/2006 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I came on the job with Debbie Kirby, She is fair and I believe she will do good, she has her hands full with the lack of quality IAD investigators, some or 20% can carry the weight, but the rest mostly females have no clue of what goes on nor do they have any investigative skills, and Debbie is stuck with them because they have the rank of D2-its like getting rid of a non-working Detective-they are protected by Union, what a shame, I got my twenty in and Im leaving real soon, God Bless-Be safe

12/13/2006 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just had person come to my house 12/12 for Daley's Petition signature! I thought all the signatures had to be in already? Is Daley concerned that he only turned in 24,000 instead of the traditional 140,000 in years past. I don't think any new signatures can be added after he already filed? If Daley gets in Huberman covers all bases for Supt.

12/13/2006 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:49 AM

So Kirby has "...earned her bones."

007? 011? Aside from empty holster, house mouse duties courtesy of the 19th Ward, kindly elaborate on her credentials as a POLICE OFFICER.

Ditto for Maher.

12/13/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, another crew of detectives bid out of Area Five, I wonder how many more good dicks they will lose before downtown does something.

It's time for Queen Dean to take a step down!

12/13/2006 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EVERYONE KNOWS MAHER IS A COMPLETE MORON!

12/13/2006 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least we could sign in late for court at 26th st. as neither one of these two hacks knows where the court sign in room is.

12/13/2006 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

usually, its not the most obvious who get the job. I suggest we allow a women to pick the next superintendant. I select dorthy tillman.Because it takes a prostitue to pick a prostitue

12/13/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

William Beevers asked if he was worried about his daughter going up against the wife of powerful Jessie Jackson in the general election.
Beevers response" u eva here of william Beevers, the powerfulist alderman in city of chicago, the powerfulist, william beevers"

MY GOD SAVE US

12/13/2006 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give the job to Charles "the rat" Williams. This way he can disband whole CPD like he did Housing and we can all go home.....FYI all the medals that shortman walks around with on was from slamming m/2 coppers when he was in IAD. Hater/Rat

12/13/2006 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirby is a hard worker especially, if she can screw a copper for some imagined violation. She has NEVER made an arrest, except arresting cops, of course. A total 19th ward hack, biotch

12/13/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The latest Cline mandate: If a Supervisor gets a sustained beef for refusing/failing to initiate a citizen complaint, the recommendation for first offense will be a minimum of 10 days. TEN DAYS!!!

Plus, old CR's are going to be "randomly" spot checked to verify the complainant's side of the story! I don't need to tell you that this could lead to lots of headaches for the sergeant who originally investigated it.

Everyone say thanks to the SOS crew for the daily policy changes that will soon make this job completely unbearable. Pretty soon, the few "stand up" bosses will be completely nuetered.

12/13/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds to me your a little bit of a whoosy. God forbid if you upset a future Supt.

12/13/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they must hire a woman as Superintendent...

BRING BACK HELEN DEWITT!!!

12/13/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope Daley wins again and appoints the biggest biatch female superintendant making all you crybabies miserable. Im retiring and moving to a suburb that doesnt sell hair gel !

12/13/2006 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what kind of pension Beavers daughter would get if she loses in the election?

If its a full pension wouldnt it have been better to let that seat remain vacant for two months instead of having the taxpayers support this clowns family.

oh thats right its the chicago way.

12/13/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being a good copper, or nice or hard working, are not and should not ever be the deciding factors for the top role. Being a woman, a man, black, white or hispanic, should not ever be the deciding factors for the top role.

You want to see how this stuff turns out? Look at what happened in Boston after Evans left for England and they took one of the internal womyns and put her in charge. Right back up murders and the crime rate went.

Or look at what happened after DC put Ramsey in charge. For something like the first 7 years, no change whatsoever. No change until gentrification.

You want results? There is only one way. Bratton's way. You need somebody who will rationally determine what is needed, and who will rationally allocate resources.

Good coppers, respectful, hard working etc. should all be requirements. But the requirements should go FAR beyond this. At the end of the day, the department needs leadership, not approval from the stands.

12/13/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A FEMALE SUPT. NOT"""" IF T IT HAPPENS I AM LEAVING. I HEAR LAKE IN THE HILLS,ILL PD IS HIRING. A LEAST THEY DO NOT HAVE A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. THE NEXT SUPT. SHOULD A MAN WITH LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND A PROVEN RECORD. BOTH PROVEN HEROES. BUT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, THIS IS THE CPD AND WILL BE ALWAYS BE STUCK WITH POOR LEADERSHIP OR LACK OF IT. SIGNED# UNTILL THERE IS JUSTICE THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE.

12/13/2006 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I vote outside the dept, male or female. We need some direction, MY home life is wonderful, however as soon as I start getting dressed for work (stress )I start thinking now what, use to be when a white shirt wanted to talk to you he would, ask what happened? not anymore now he says what did you do? maria Maher has been doing that for years, she has no people skills. remember when she got punched out when she was in 14 by a guy from the church at a meeting.

12/13/2006 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOR THE NEXT SUPT, JOB
WILLIAM BRATTON (CHIEF OF LAPD)
OR JESSE VENTURA (FORM GOV OF MN. FORMER GREEN BERET.
OH I FORGOT THIS IS THE CPD THEY DO NOT REAL LEADERSHIP TO RUN THE DEPARTMENT ,WELL THAT BEING SAID I NOMINATE OPRAH.
GOD PLEASE HELP THE CPD.

12/13/2006 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IF IT IS GOING TO BE A WOMAN, THEN SO BE IT.
BUT I WANT SOMEONE WHO IS GOOD LOOKING AND CAN SING.
THEREFORE I JENNIFER LOPEZ, MADONNA OR WHITNEY HOUSTON, FOR CPD SUPT.

12/13/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well.......... Hillard was Chief of Dicks, Cline was Chief of Dicks, and now she is Chief of Dicks............. Both Maher and Kirby are the real police, just ask them .

12/13/2006 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter who the next Super is. Female, black, white, hispanic, transgendered, whatever. Can anyone honestly say that any Super has ever affected change in this police department?

No. You can't.

They're all politcal hacks, because that's how this city works.

Just get used to it, collect a pay check and start saving for retirement.

This job will never get better because our "union" is a sackless waste of space and money.

Vote Republican!!!

12/13/2006 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had Kirby for a labor law class. Smart chick, and easy on the eyes. But she is a lawyer, that is good and bad...Always looking at the legal/liability angle instead of at the way things have to be done...Not sure how much backing she will give for the police. But lesser of two evils, most likely. But Maher has the female and the hispanic thing going...It's a twofer

12/13/2006 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you guys nuts? Kirby IS a political hack sent by Mike Madigan. Nuff said?

12/13/2006 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MORE PICTURES OF HITNEY!

12/13/2006 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be Skahill

12/13/2006 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares? Does it really matter? That position is nothing more than a bobble-headed figure to kiss the mayor's arse and make the workers look like shit to the public and media. I'll just keep doing my job and collecting whatever money I can squeeze out of the city.

12/13/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nepotism is alive and well. Mayor Daley knows what he is doing to stack the deck, Beavers daughter takes daddy's spot, lets not forget Ald. Tom Murphy's associate appointed by Daley to take his spot as he is now a circuit court judge. Now boys and girls think about it, Daley has another judge in his pocket do you really think that the fop or any officer, city worker, has a law suit against the city will win. keep thinking he's a box of rocks.

12/13/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

any word on the area three indictments coming?

12/13/2006 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares anymore...their all full of shit.

12/13/2006 05:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG! If Kirby gets it I will puke all over my new station! This (cant even say p/o) gal has never made a pt 1 arrest. She was useless in 008 and is useless now. I agree with 02:30Am post. hire from outside the dept, we'll be better off!!!

12/13/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does it REALLLLLLY matter?????

12/13/2006 06:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She is educated and very smart. She is not or never was the police, and never wanted to .

12/13/2006 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J LO FOR SUPT

12/13/2006 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirby is a lawyer..nuff said. They are not our friends.

12/13/2006 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get ready for the annual gun turn in this Saturday. $50 for your gat, no matter the condition. Woo Hoo!!!

12/13/2006 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GRAU!!! ALL THE WAY!!!

12/13/2006 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous the stick said...

I select Ray Urbanski for next Supt. of Police. "Whats goin on Joe"

12/13/2006 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

01:29:52 PM I agree with you. Bring back Helen. She was the real police.

12/13/2006 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Super doesn't..and never did run this dept. ever since old man daley (townsend) and this daley..No super has made a longterm decision outside of a word from a daley rep..been that way for over 40 years..ask around.

12/13/2006 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I liked Helen, too. Never wore a hat, impeccably manicured and one smart cop. Helen come back out of retirement!

12/13/2006 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah!!!

Helen Dewitt was the real deal as far as women police officers go.

BRING BACK HELEN!!!!

(...can we start a campaign or something?)

12/13/2006 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hitney for supt!

12/13/2006 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes 12/13/06 1:29:52pm, if we have to have a "broad" Hellen would be a great CHIEF. She was one of my first bosses; having no juice, i was drafted to 015 after training. Along w/T.Stephens,Kz Johnson,lawyer Kozlowski,M. Atkins, etc)u knew u were protected under Helen & crew..
When I brought in a resistor one nite, and after Helen interviewed this citizen; she admonished me for not "adjusting his attitude more" before bringing him in....
When i bitch about being in 015 in the mid 80's; i have to admit alot of bosses kids were there and working; it seems it was a much better system just 20 years ago!!
As far a Helen goes; I always understood she was a "former" Marine, unlike this asshole on midnites in 019 whoes an"X"......

12/13/2006 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with 12/13/2006 05:26:49P.M.

Daley is dumb like a fox. I don't like the guy, but give the devil his due. Too many of us make the mistake of underestimating him and calling him stupid. He is not. He has this police Department, city, and court system all sewn up. Not something that a dummy could accomplish.
As for Leo Memorial, I am sick of your whining about the city being a ghetto. If you feel that way why don't you move to the suburbs and take your comments with you! At least you can move out of this city we can't.

12/13/2006 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maher or Kirby...either way it doesn't matter. They both hate me.

12/13/2006 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seiser for Supt. because he runs it anyway, might as well make it official.

12/13/2006 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helen Dewitt was the Gold Standard for what a female PO should be. In 011 she would kick ass on a daily basis. Once, a shithead was in the lock up assaulting the turnkey...Helen ran back there and used the minimal force necessary to chain this shithead to the bars until he could regain his senses. It would have made a great streaming video!!

12/14/2006 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The next Sup't will just be another puppet for Daley. Daley needs to co-sign for the next Sup't. If you think otherwise, you're a fool. Enough said.

12/14/2006 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Murphy40pct, Kirby "made her name" by developing domestic violence guidelines? Wow, now there is a credential to run the Dept.! Are you serious?

12/14/2006 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helen Dewitt for SUP!!! Has my vote twice!! Talk about a chick with balls bigger than the Sears Tower!!! Was my boss in 011 and stood behind and in front of her people...great boss!!! Or here's another great boss....Sgt Tommie West!! what a great sgt...was 013th Dist tact Sgt...as good as they come...I have no idea if the man is still alive....but what a great boss!! and....GOD REST HIS SOUL...Eddie King!!! They broke the mold when they made this man...I'm a white PO and I have never seen a better African American stand up boss in my life!!! Eddie bled blue..all the way

12/14/2006 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked with Tina Skahill when she was new, she was never afraid to work or fight if it was needed and she never wrote checks with her mouth that someone else had to cash

12/14/2006 02:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is sorta funny... There are two views out there about Kirby. There is side that hates her (lawyer, IAD, take your pick) And then the side who worked with her, knows her, or of her reputation and thinks she can do the job. Go figure. Compared to Cline? I think she better than him anyday! As far as her clout, I am curious as to where it came from? I agree that maybe the next Supt come from outside the city. But I also feel Daley has had a good run and it is time for him to go someplace else.

12/14/2006 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maher as Sup.?

She can't keep her mind made up for 5 minutes, much less a whole tour of duty. We'd all be doomed...they can't figure out what to do with her since they made the mistake of making her Chief. A Lateral for her into a dead spot is the only thing they can do, seeing as how NO ONE in the building will talk to her if they don't have to.

She's N-U-T-Z

12/14/2006 03:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A political association with someone is usually required to rise anywhere in Chicago, let alone this department. Not one of the women (or men) who may be appointed Superintendent is any different or more intelligent than most of us beat cops. We have all seen people go from patrol to exempt is a few short years. There are many on this job with advanced degrees, special experience and even law degrees that are useless without that gentle push upward. I believe these women are all very short and if required could not defend themselves or be of much use in a fight. Unfortunately, that has always been true of many men on this department. That being said, lets be honest with ourselves, the only consideration the Mayor has in choosing a Superintendent, is how much political capital he can gain by the appointment.

Those who believe that promotions depend on competence do so because it pleases them, not because it is true. We have all seen people come on this job with serious physical and mental disabilities who rise through the ranks. Some are related to a judge, some know a major contributor, some sleep with and ADS (hello, it is not as if it is not obvious). We are all good cops even if others, others who know not what they do, beat us down until we stop working altogether.

THEREFORE, saying that Kirby (big political connections) or Skahill (there is a reason she has risen so far, ask Bobby) deserve, or have earned, their position is laughable. I suggest that they, like all of us, can do the job they are assigned. They are smart and hard workers just like all of us. NEVERTHELESS, THEIR JOBS CAN BE, AND HAVE BEEN, DONE BY MALES WHO WERE IDIOTS, CRIMINALS AND DRUNKS. So if the village idiot can hold any position on this department, then so can anyone who makes it through the drug test.

That brings us to Maher (she has a secret that Daley knows-she won't get the job). She is not more or less competent because she lacks a law degree; in fact, she is probably better qualified because she is less likely to lie because she does not have a law degree. She can do things Kirrby and Skahill cannot. Whether she slept with someone or not, she has support that others lack and so she is the Chief. (That is also a joke some of you will get) We all know she would not even have been on the job just 30+ years ago because of the height requirement. So no matter what these women (or their male counterparts) can do, they rose because of who they knew, not what they know. So why are we talking as if anything we say matters? Simply stated, we are jealous. We all want to win the lottery, get a "golden parachute" (severance agreement) or be the boss. No one will ever discipline Kirby for shopping while on duty or some other minor infraction. I wish them well; they made it, we did not. Fairness, justice, competence and grace have nothing to do with it. I wish I had their pension coming!

12/14/2006 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hire anyone from anywhere, hire Joe Drutz from Berwyn, who cares? Anyone who thinks the Department would somehow get better with a new superintendent is a fool.

To change this department in any appreciable manner it would have to come under the control of the Federal government through a Federal consent decree and the day to day runnings AND "MERIT" promotions would be overseen by a consent bureau, or something similar. EVERYTHING would be approved by a Federal oversight office of some kind.

That is the ONLY hope for making this job the least little bit honest and legit and fair to all.

Of course to many "fair" only means that the department work in their favor, kind of like your guy gets elected so it becomes your turn to steal and get your relatives jobs.

Look for a massive Democratic victory in the next presidential elections and perhaps the next 16 years of Hillary and Obama.

And then: Consent Decree operations of the Chicago Police Department via the US Government vs. Chicago Police Department.

Are you all really ready for it to be "Fair"? Ready or not it is coming. This is the most corrupt big city police department and the one in most dire need of federal oversight.

I can't wait.

12/14/2006 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its just silly, just silly, silly

12/14/2006 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we please see a picture of Hitney standing next to Cline!

12/14/2006 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets make the 009th district a better place, lets get rid of all the wannabe's on first and 3rd watch.

12/14/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous 025 District Copper said...

Whos is Helen Dewitt? Wasnt she in threes company? what about Krissy?

12/14/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
All 3 are terrible and inexperienced as street cops,dont have a clue as to what is going on or how its done,
--------------------

That's just the way they linke their Gold Stars

12/14/2006 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kirby has worked hard at every position she has had. Between the two, she has earned her bones.

12/13/2006 02:49:23 AM

Stop kissing ass, Keith!

12/13/2006 08:10:26 AM

HAHAHA...good one! Those in the know, understand that jab!

12/14/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

do they have any investigative skills, and Debbie is stuck with them because they have the rank of D2-its like getting rid of a non-working Detective-they are protected by Union, what a shame, I got my twenty in and Im leaving real soon, God Bless-Be safe

I thought PO in IAD made D-3 pay.

12/14/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Hopefully it will be Kirby, not only is she a smart and fair person, she is something nice to look at!!!

12/13/2006 08:37:57 AM

Give me a break,she is NOT fair-she is into making a name for herself and will sacrifice any pos she can along the way. She's not that good looking either, maybe as you get to know someone and you see what a jerk they can be the so-called beauty dimishes...

12/14/2006 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Just had person come to my house 12/12 for Daley's Petition signature! I thought all the signatures had to be in already? Is Daley concerned that he only turned in 24,000 instead of the traditional 140,000 in years past. I don't think any new signatures can be added after he already filed? If Daley gets in Huberman covers all bases for Supt.

12/13/2006 11:29:11 AM



I really hope you said: no

12/14/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for Leo Memorial, I am sick of your whining about the city being a ghetto. If you feel that way why don't you move to the suburbs and take your comments with you! At least you can move out of this city we can't.

12/13/2006 11:16:02 PM

I'm sick of you whinning about other people whinning about the truth of this city.

12/14/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why have all of you wrote off Dana Starks already??

12/14/2006 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger Murphy40pct said...

01:54. Yes, that's how she came to be in favor with the exempts in the department. She was a sergeant with a title of something like domestic violence coordinator and wrote the GOs on the subject. As I have never worked for her, nor do I have her resume in front of me, I have no idea whether she has the credentials to run the department, but I know Maher does not.

12/14/2006 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't speak about Maher but have yet to hear a good word about her from anyone who has had the "privledge" of working for her. Kirby is another matter. That bitch would sell out each and every blue shirt she could to look good. She is a no good piece of shit and hated by all but a small handful of IAD...that small handful being a few suckholes. The rest of us just bide our time until she moves along, we just pray it's not to the Sup's office. If that happens, those of you who think she's okay because she's sooooooo smart and "easy on the eyes"-like that should matter) will know what a treacherous c she really is. Oh by the way, I KNOW I work at IAD, I don't feel the need to try to hang coppers out to dry so save your nasty comments-I just thought you would like to know an insiders opinion to the person she is now.

12/14/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BRING BACK HELEN DEWITTBRING BACK HELEN DEWITTBRING BACK HELEN DEWITTBRING BACK HELEN DEWITTBRING BACK HELEN DEWITTBRING BACK HELEN DEWITT

She was my sergeant for 5 years in 015 and it was great.

12/14/2006 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the post who hates Williams, you are a complete moron, maybe Williams punished you in the past get over it, Charlie is a good guy and he took a bullet on this job trying to rescue a P/O during a hostage situation, so shut your mouth, or better yet challenge his credentials-you'll find he is legit unlike our First Deputy who doesnt hold a college degree-never finished tried to call in a favor at Chicago State University -feds pick up on this -please

12/14/2006 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE NEXT POLICE SUPT. MY VOTE IS FIR EITHER BRATTON OR TONY SAPRANO, I THINK THE NY MOB WOULD DO A GOOD JOB RUNNING THIS SCREWED UP DEPARTMENT. AS FAR MAHER IS CONCERNED A COMPLATE IDIOT. I REMEMBER HER AS AREA FIVE DEPUTY CHIEF. I HANDLED A MAJOR ACCIDENT ONCE WITH DUI OFFENDER. IT WAS A VERY BUSY DAY AND WE WERE SHORT ON MAN POWER. NEVER THE LESS THE DRUNK OFFENDER WAS PLACED INTO CUSTODY MAIS WAS CONTACTED AND MY SELF AND A SGT AND A FIELD LT GUARDED THE SCENE WHILE I DID THE ACCIDENT REPORT. ALL OF THE SUDDEN MAHER CAME ON THE SCENE AND STARTED YELLING AND SCREAMING AT VERY BODY AND STARTED TO WALK INTO THE ROPED OFF ACCIDENT SCENE, LUCKLY MY FIELD LT WHO HAD BALLS TOLD HER THAT THE CIRCUS WAS OVER AND THAT SHE NEEDED TO LEAVE. THE GUYS FROM MAIS WERE LAUGHING AT HER AND TOLD ME THAT GOD IT WAS NOT A TRIPLE HOMICIDE OR A POLICE SHOOTING. IT ENDED WELL. THE TWO VICTIMS SURVIVED AND MY OFFENDER WAS CHARGED AND CONVICTED OF AGGRAVATED DUI. DEAR MARIS PLEASE STAY FROM MY ACCIDENT SCENES.

12/14/2006 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SEISER FOR SUPT. WHY? BECAUSE HE RUNS IT.

12/14/2006 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HELEN DEWITT FOR SUPT. A REAL STAND UPBOSS. FORMER MARINE I WOULD GO INTO COMBAT FOR HER. I REMEMBER, YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS A BIG 10/1 AT DIVISION/ KEELER. ALONG WITH A MINI RIOT. END RESULT MISSION COMPLETED , PEACE RESTORED AND ALL OF THE OFFENDERS WENT TO JAIL.

12/14/2006 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that a retired Lt who is now chief of police in a local suburb was considering applying for the job!

12/14/2006 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I retire in 8 years, my kid will be 21. I am leaving my job
and good spot to her.

12/14/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had the pleasure of working with Maher aka Soto when she was a PO


For so many reasons, and on so many levels,
If shes the next Sup, "we {sic} in a heap a trouble"

12/14/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked with Debby Kirby many years ago and she was good people. I heard Maher was a Bank teller who was a hottie and was convinced by some Boss to join the Dept. so he could "watch her career." People who worked with her siad that she's good too. It's a matter of who can help the Mayor more, Black, White, Hispanic, Female, Midget,Crossdresser, whatever works for him.

12/14/2006 07:03:00 PM  
Blogger TheHatLives said...

I worked for Kirby a couple of years ago while I was in 008. I was not there long but she treated me fair and knew her job. If she made Supt I think it would be a positive. Just my opinion.

12/14/2006 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Confidential chaos said...

Oh by the way, I KNOW I work at IAD, I don't feel the need to try to hang coppers out to dry so save your nasty comments-I just thought you would like to know an insiders opinion to the person she is now.

12/14/2006 12:05:08 PM


BUSTED!!!! I know, because I really do work in IAD and the ENTIRE UNIT, EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO WORKS THERE was in a meeting at the multi-purpose room in HQ when this comment was made. So obviously, either you are completely full of shit and trying to cause trouble ( my bet ) or you somehow managed to type this trash on a laptop connected to Wi-Fi without anyone else in the ENTIRE Unit noticing.

Try again. Maybe next time you could pick a date that the entire Unit isn't signed into a meeting at one location. Duh........

12/14/2006 11:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a thought....... Charles Ramsey comes back from Washington D.C. to take over the top job. You heard it here first, now back to my Kool-aid.

12/14/2006 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to: 12/14, 06:16 am.....did you hit it on the head, a grand slam, or what? Kudos, my friend, you are the man...

12/15/2006 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would pay money to see Helen Dewitt's press conferences as Supt. She would be a nation wide icon. What a breath of fresh air that broad (in the best sense of the word)was. I don't think she would come back she as doesn't need the dough.

But....Helen for Mayor??

When do the petitions need to be in?

12/15/2006 05:14:00 AM  
Anonymous The View said...

Anonymous (14 Dec, 6:16AM), you can't really be serious. "They could not defend themselves in a fight," so none of those women should be considered for promotion to Supt? And I suppose CLINE could? Or CRONIN? Jeez! If you're going to say something so dumb, at least make sure it applies across the board! Of all the reasons for disqualifying someone for promotion, that is about the worst I've ever seen posted. Look at MOST of the exempts we have on the CPD now. How many appear to be physically fit? Maybe 8 at most!
How many take the annual fitness test? Probably not even that many.
If we're going to make "self defense" a catagory for promotion, a whole bunch of folks would have to step down, and quickly.

12/15/2006 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helen DeWitt? The first openly gay Supt? Doubt it...unless the Mayor's Chief of Staff is going to run for....nah, it won't happen in the 6 yrs. I got left.

12/15/2006 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said... 12/14/2006 02:37:42 PM "HELEN DEWITT FOR SUPT. A REAL STAND UPBOSS. FORMER MARINE I WOULD GO INTO COMBAT FOR HER. I REMEMBER, YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS A BIG 10/1 AT DIVISION/ KEELER. ALONG WITH A MINI RIOT. END RESULT MISSION COMPLETED , PEACE RESTORED AND ALL OF THE OFFENDERS WENT TO JAIL"

Are you kiddin me? Helen Nitwit AKA Large Marge?
What a goofball! May have been a good policeMAN in her day, but a horrible Manager! Just as fast as she made Commander of 013, she was quickly dumped! She couldn't lead a hungry pack of wolves to meat!

12/15/2006 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as I know, the only people who get D3 at IAD are the Sgts. They stopped making Agents (D2) and your soft if you want to give up your dick spot to work there or keep getting D1 as a PO doing D3 work....

12/15/2006 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I heard that a retired Lt who is now chief of police in a local suburb was considering applying for the job! 12/14/2006 03:09:13 PM
*********************************
That would be awesome if BK came back.
A truely great boss.

12/15/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The rumor downtown at City Hall is Huberman. I got this from somebody who is not the police, but is a boss in the building. It happened before with a civilian and it can happen again. God help us if this happens!

12/15/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are there any "standup broad" bosses on this job?

12/15/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Premature speculation: Everyone's trying to figure who the next Sup. might be. With Phil's standing, weather we like it or not, he's not going anywhere until he wants to. Why would Lil Dick Daley make waves for himself selecting a new Sup? It would be a no win game for him. He won't be able to please the con man revs., the hispanics, the ladies, the north shore libs, and least of all the street coppers no matter who he might choose. So he'll stand pat and so will Phil. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it!

12/15/2006 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 12/15/2006 08:55:35 AM,

DeWitt was an absolute zero. An unpolished butch. Elevated a mush to tact Lt. and singlehandedly destroyed some of the best Tact Teams on the Westside (TS'S, amongst others). The best coppers fled back to the watch.

Since when is the possession of a vagina the prerequisite to promotion. I thought it only allowed one to go on the medical for a broken nail and then rape the pension fund to the tune of seventy-five percent, sans federal tax! My pick would be McNulty. But I'll take Huberman over the two listed above. He has the cognitive skills and the ability to reason. And he doesn't hate us! He's a blue shirt after all, albeit a fortunate one. Anyone got a problem with a blue shirt getting the spot? Or is that privledge reserved only for the Sons of Eire?

12/15/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helen got dumped as C/O of 013 because she couldn't play politics and didn't kiss the ass of the Alderman and community groups. She only lasted 8 months and then sent to 008 where she retired from.

12/15/2006 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But I'll take Huberman over the two listed above. He has the cognitive skills and the ability to reason. And he doesn't hate us! He's a blue shirt after all, albeit a fortunate one.

WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY RESECT SUCH AN OBVIOUS HACK? H U B E R M A N !?!?

I'd Quit. He's a blue shirt that knows nothing about being a blue shirt and all his little assholes that worked with him down at that computer unit turned into cocky know-it-all pricks and bitches.

12/15/2006 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Tina Skahill would make a good supt. She's smart and well-spoken, female and African-
American. I don't think she has any skeletons in her closet. It would be a good politcal move for Daley and probably good for this department to have a different management perspective. She would certainly be better than Hillard or Rodriguez.

Or here's a thought, Cline will give the spot over to Matt just like Beavers, Stroger, etc. Isn't that how things are done in Chicago and Cook County, IL?

12/15/2006 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To those of you who think Kirby would throw regular po's under the bus every chance she gets, how would that be eny different from Cline? The only po's he has taken care of are those with his last name and friends of those with his last name.

12/16/2006 03:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm no fan of Irish bosses but the most knowledgable, able, experienced exempt on the job is McNulty. Competent, a gentleman, and he can hold his own in a crisis. And he can hold his beer pretty well, too! We need Pat!

12/16/2006 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IAD Agents make D2 PAY, PO/S HAVE TO TAKE A TEST TO BECOME AGENTS THEN THEY MAKE D2 PAY, SGTS MAKE REGUALR Pay, except for that Mahoney who makes d3 pay, as an advocate, now heres a guys who would tremble if he makes Lt, doesnt know the streets at all, is afraid to stick up for a copper, and always is an advocate to throw someone under a bus, remember this is the guy that reviews all cr numbers before they go past the superintendent's desk, what a no good political hack, Good Luck on the LT exam-None working copper

12/16/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be fair...Cline regularly reduces recomended penalties for coppers, much to the distress of IAD.

12/16/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be fair...Cline regularly reduces recomended penalties for coppers, much to the distress of IAD.

12/16/2006 12:51:24 PM


You obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about! Cline regularly RAISES the shit out of the recommendations from IAD. Unless it's a connected person, in which case it gets reduced. I can name 3 Friends Of Phil that went from either 30 Pending or a straight 30 to less than 10 for things that would have gotten most of us shitcanned.

You're retarded to think anyone in IAD cares if you take 5 days or 1. It's just a job. DO yours correctly and I might get a chance to breathe instead of being buried under 20 cases at all times! If you saw some of the stuff your coworkers were accused of, you'd be afraid to NOT work 99!

And to the guy who said Mahoney likes to throw coppers under the bus, you'd be surprised at how many times he has asked the investigator to LOWER the recommendations. I won't argue that he's a political animal, but I have personal experience with him changing recommendations to "violation noted" instead of a few days. Sorry to burst all the "IAD love to hurt the working copper" bubbles out there.

PS: Every time you say "I don't recall", we know you are a lying piece of shit. Have a great day.

12/16/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are there any "standup broad" bosses on this job?
____________________________________Yep, the chief of OCD's wife.

12/16/2006 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BUSTED!!!! I know, because I really do work in IAD and the ENTIRE UNIT, EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO WORKS THERE was in a meeting at the multi-purpose room in HQ when this comment was made. So obviously, either you are completely full of shit and trying to cause trouble ( my bet ) or you somehow managed to type this trash on a laptop connected to Wi-Fi without anyone else in the ENTIRE Unit noticing.

Try again. Maybe next time you could pick a date that the entire Unit isn't signed into a meeting at one location. Duh........

12/14/2006 11:52:47 PM

Hey Sherlock: Does ANYONE take furlo in December there? Just wondering because if the "ENTIRE UNIT, EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO WORKS THERE" was there in mid-December then maybe the FOP needs to be notified. BUSTED!...for being an idiot!

12/16/2006 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with 5:59:52 IAD does't give a flying rats ass how many days you take, However we know they get tired of the clout babies given breaks by this dept while the working po's that happen to make a small mistake take serious time, because the dept wants the citizens to think its legit.

12/18/2006 11:26:00 AM  

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