Lieutenants Test Tales
We're already seeing the typical stories that accompany any test given by the city - people showing up late and still being allowed inside; people not bringing the material they need and still being allowed inside; people using mobile phones in violation of just about every rule published and still being allowed to remain inside.
And then there's the dozens who don't even show up for Part 2 - you know a large portion of these goofs are the ones who are going to be merit over the next few years. How the hell can they even be considered qualified for their position if they didn't even sit the entire exam? At least come up with some kind of legit number, even if the number is 475 or worse. No wonder apathy and complete disrespect for the ranks is rampant. The testing is actually a symptom of the disease nowadays.
Anyone with funny or appalling stories about the test can post here. Was it an "in-basket" test AND oral portion? Or how did they run it for the benefit of the teeming masses reading here?
And then there's the dozens who don't even show up for Part 2 - you know a large portion of these goofs are the ones who are going to be merit over the next few years. How the hell can they even be considered qualified for their position if they didn't even sit the entire exam? At least come up with some kind of legit number, even if the number is 475 or worse. No wonder apathy and complete disrespect for the ranks is rampant. The testing is actually a symptom of the disease nowadays.
Anyone with funny or appalling stories about the test can post here. Was it an "in-basket" test AND oral portion? Or how did they run it for the benefit of the teeming masses reading here?
posted by SCC at 12:40 AM
121 Comments:
Funniest thing I saw when I was there was Lt. Richie Scotchbreath walking in to take the test.
They told him, you are already a Lt. and he said, Hic-up, Oh yea, I am. Sorry. With all my merit promotions I forgot what they gave me last, Hic-Up. Just don't the Commander about this, he is already in a bad mood and yelling at everyone! Is it, hic-up, at least 15 minutes past check off so I can go back to my district? Hic-up!
I took the test today. There were 3-6 empty seats in my class room. Obviously they are going to be merit. The question that I found very and I mean VERY insulting was in the oral phase when you are to respond to scenario via lap top computer. We had no preparation time, it was supposed to test how we "think on our feet". Here's the scenario:
I AM THE CAPS LT. AND P.O. MILLER (NOT A REAL PERSON) WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CAPS OFFICE BUT GOT DUMPED TO DAYS (2ND WATCH) BECAUSE OF NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS RE: HIS LACK OF COMMUNICATION SKILLS AND FOR RUDENESS. IN WALKS THE AREA DEPUTY CHIEF TO TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS.
THE DEPTUY SAY'S " HEY LT. HOW YOU DOING?LISTEN OFFICER MILLER IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND I KNOW HIS FAMILY VERY WELL AND FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OFFICER MILLER BACK IN THE CAPS OFFICE"(WHILE HE WAS WINKING).
THEY STOP THE VIDEO AND START THE RECORDER (YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS TO RESPOND).................
I MAY BE WRONG ABOUT THIS BUT I THINK ABOUT 98% OF ALL OFFICERS (BOTH PO'S AND ABOVE) ARE ASSIGNED TO "NON PATROL/STREET" DUITIES/UNITS-BASED ON A PHONE CALL, FAVOR FOR A BOSS, CLOUT, WHACK, JUICE OR WHATEVER U WANT TO CALL IT. LOOK AT THE IVORY TOWER!!
HOW CAN THIS DEPT. PUT FORTH A TEST QUESTION WHERE A AREADEPUTY CHIEF ASKS A LT. TO TAKE CARE OF HIS "VERY GOOD, CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND" IN THE CAPS OFFICE WHEN THIS OFFICER IS BEING A JAGOFF OR WHATEVER? AM I SUPPOSED TO RESPOND "HEY BOOS ILL TAKE CARE ITT ILLIVE HIM SOME BULLSHIT JOB" OR DO I SAY"HEY BOSS HE IS NOT EFFECTIVE AND CREATES PROBLEMS FOR ME AND MY OFFICE AND THE COMMANDER."
HOW MANY INCOMPETANT EXEMPTS ON DOWN DO WE HAVE THAT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE ON THIS JOB LET ALONE A BOSS?
WHAT AN INSULT!!!!!
ALL I CANSAY IS THIS, "KEEP YOUR HEAD DOWN LOW, YOUR POWDER DRY AND QUIT AT 29 YRS AND A DAY".
" IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU AND YOUR PARTNER, AND FAMILY!!!" FUCK EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!
REMEMBER THE DEPT. HAS NEVER FIRED ANYONE FOR DOING "N O T H I N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
TILL THEN, PEACE OUT, I/F 4/EVER!!!
the LT test was a joke, just like this dept. Mostly CAPS mission crap. Very little real world stuff a LT/WC needs to know. Nothing on domestics, pursuits, suicide, deaths, police shootings, search warrants. Probably a lot more that I can't remember now at 0200 hrs. 5 hours and 40 minutes of nonsence. I think I did very well but there was almost nothing there to properly measure who would be a capable LT. The subject matter "experts" and anyone else responsible for the content of this test should be ashamed of themselves.
I took the test. No proctors in the bathrooms (haven't we been there before?) Also, the oral part of the test had nothing to do with general orders, and seemed entirely subjective. The one with the Deputy Chief coming in to aske that you put his buddy back in the CAPS office was priceless. By that point I had completely given up, so I answered "sure boss, anything you want. If we can't take care of our friends, what's left?" Do you think I'll get any points for honesty?
SGT ANGELO FROM 019 IS TELLING EVERYONE THAT HE IS FRIENDS OF THE COMMANDER AND HE IS A GUARANTEE LT.
FUNNY... ONE MISSING IN MY ROOM, SEAT #1 ROOM 32?, ANOTHER ONE WAS THERE, GOT UP (THOUGHT TO USE RESTROOM) BEFORE TEST BEGAN...NEVER CAME BACK...VERY INVOLVED PART 1, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO SOLVE THIS GANG CONFLICT LT?? WITH LOTS OF REPORTS/MEMO'S/MAPS/GANG AFFILA/FLASHES... ETC....ORAL?????? FELT GOOD ABOUT 5/7.....OVER STUDIED FOR ORAL..VERY SIMPLE..SITUATIONS...BUT VERY NERVOUS... SGT FOR EVER???? WE'LL SEE.....LATE..OH YEAH....NO PENCILS..YUP...JUST PALIN CPT/////YUP....
Sean Flynn for F.O.P. President!
I had 2 empty seats in my room but it appeared that most everyone was prepared. The test was much less than I expected in fact it did have some of the basic things a Lt. or w/c has to do but much of it was on the DOC and the DOC and DIB reports. No School incident, No hazmat, No HBT, No bomb threat, no terrorist attack. God help us all, I guess we should just run away if a critical incident happens. I waisted hours on knowing proceedures concerning critical incidents for nothing. The oral was a joke. 7 questions with little or no substance again no critical incident you had to deal with just complainers and Sgts who did not want to do their job. Next time I will study less and just take my chances.
The only question I believe you could have cheated on as someone mentioned earlier on the blog in regards to cell phones was the 1 about what 3 things a lt. has to do when responding to a violation at a licensed premises. You could have went to the shitter text messaged someone and got 3 points which on this test could make or break you.
THANKS to all the Sgts posting and confirming the state of affairs..here in the lovely city..29 and a day here I come..Asleep At the wheel in 011
I'm glad I didn't study. If I had, I probably would have studied what I thought were things that are relevant to being a W/C or field Lt. None of that studying would have helped me on this test. This test was pretty much DOC, and CAPS oriented. Nothing about being a leader in a semi-military (LOL) organization or as a previous poster stated, nothing about Police shootings,suicides, procedure,chases, yada,yada,yada. This test confirms to me that they don't want leaders anymore, that they don't want Policeman anymore. Remember the old time bosses, the kind that even though they went up in the ranks, never forgot that they were the Police? The BTDT kind? The kind that would give you a boot in the ass if you needed it but then forgot about it and took care of you five minutes later if you needed something? The kind of guy that had an answer if you had a problem?Well thats not the kind of guy they want anymore! What they want is a person that fall in lock step with this CAPS and DOC nonsense which was and is being designed by civilians and which has NO BEARING on actual Police work. I'm near the end now and those of you that have a while to go, both blue and white shirts, have my deepest sympathy. This mayor and the people that run this Department have absolutely ruined it. That was never better illustrated by the test I took yesterday.
Sounds like a blow off, much like the last sergeants test. And do you know why? It's dumbed down to give some legitimacy to the final score of blacks, hispanics, and the marginally competent Irish who will become merit promotee's. Keep voting for Daley, Madigan, Lipinski, Dart, Levar, Doherty, Banks, and the rest of these corrupt asswipes. Hey white Sergeants-maybe the Department should create a new UCR code for "Theft-of promotion".
Sean Flynn? Isnt that Errol's son whose MIA in Vietnam? WIERD!!!!!
SGT. ANGELO IS PART OF THE GREEK ORG. LIKE I SAID BEFORE THE GREEKS ARE GETTING THIER SHIT TOGETHER.
CMDR. ELIAS VALGARUS, PRES. HAPA
CMDR. STEVE GEORGES, V.P. HAPA
SGT. ANGELO HITARUS, SECRETARY
LT. PENNY TRAHANNAS, BD. MEMB
CMDR. DEAN ANDREWS, BD. MEMB
Re: Anonymous said...
Funniest thing I saw when I was there was Lt. Richie Scotchbreath walking in to take the test.
You had me laughing so hard with this post, I almost made wee-wee in my pants!
Most of the test could have been based on the gang conflict in the Level 1 Deployment Zone on Beat 2633. Aside from the question concerning a battery at a tavern, everything else was all DOC related. What are you going to do..SBM.'s, Dispersals, Curfew Missions, etc. All th BS they are harping on in the Districts now.. The oral was a joke...I told the Chief it was the D/C's fault..Screw the media (they're juveniles anyway)..As for the commmunity activist, I'd knock him on his ass for talking to me like that. I also told the D/C if he wasn't always off on furlough, he'd know what the hell was going on
Senior Sergeant Forever!!!
I thought it was a very difficult test, the first part had a huge amount of material to get through in the time allowed.
THEY STOP THE VIDEO AND START THE RECORDER (YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS TO RESPOND).................
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The correct answer is to say nothing at all. It's a recording device! Duh.
This is really puzzling but predictable. This blog is 2nd City Cop as in PO? Why are there 6 comments on the Lt. Exam? Which can only be taken by Sgt? This thread should be shut down& directed to the 2ndCity Sgt. Immediately!
Why would any PO in their right mind care about the Lts exam in the 1st place?
The worst part of the test is the current merritorious Lts, telling Sgts to be quiet in the hallways. Its bad enough that these people scored lower than you on the last test, then you have to have them rub their rank in your face at the test. Yea Lucy, you deserve it..keep thinking that.....
Having taken the test 3 times, I thought this one was the fairest. The oral was easy, just depends what their experts decided on as the right answers. You just have to be straight up legit on the answers. I would always answer the way it would probably happen in the real world. This test I was in the land of oz. To bad that all of the people in Eli's study group are going to bury me , anyway.
the LT test was a joke, just like this dept. Mostly CAPS mission crap. Very little real world stuff a LT/WC needs to know. Nothing on domestics, pursuits, suicide, deaths, police shootings, search warrants. Probably a lot more that I can't remember now at 0200 hrs. 5 hours and 40 minutes of nonsence. I think I did very well but there was almost nothing there to properly measure who would be a capable LT. The subject matter "experts" and anyone else responsible for the content of this test should be ashamed of themselves.
1/07/2007 02:12:14 AM
Must have been a first timer. Relax, when you get over 40 and have close to 20 years on, then you can bitch...
down w/ poatroast flynn for fop president
Dear Cmdr JC thank you so much for lighting a fire under the dog*sses that work the 008th District. I actually saw Bt 8** patrolling the streets. Don't let the under achievers attack your character, continue to charge forward and lead the troops to victory. Please excuse me it's time for my medication.
Guys, while you were out whoring in some sleezy bar I was ringing doorbells for the Dems. I worked my ass off for the party and now it's my turn to get a return favor.
Any of you could have done the same thing.
So what is the big deal about guys like me making rank?
You had the same chance as me but you wanted to drink beer and watch football. Now you can call me Lt. and kiss my ass for the next 29!
I'm just LUCKY I made sergeant off the 1998 sergeant’s test. (list was up 1998 to 2001)
I was about 495 on the list – a total of 4 classes. They got as far as about 520 or 525 on the list. Then, add on the 30% 'merit' people.. they made over 700 people total.
You will never see this many made again of a sergeants list. The reason so many were made on that list was because so many coppers were hired in the late 1960s and early 1970's.. they were retiring at this period and left a lot of vacancies.
The Caps Lt. question is laughable only because I've yet to see a Caps Lt. who controlled who works in the office. I've also never seen a Dep. deal directly with the Lt. over whether someone is in the office or not. A real Dep. would have by-passed the Lt. and gone directly to the Commander. If the Commander said No, what do you think the Lt. would have done. The best response would be for the Caps Lt. to defer to the Commander and tactfully suggest to the Dep. that his request should be handled at that level.
Not a difficult question by any means.
hooray, at least my class was all on time and quiet with no cell phones going off.
the only downfall, we had the hottest proctor out there.
hellooooooo nurse.
five empty seats im my room
Who gives a fuck about the Lt.test Put some pictures up. can we see the bully faces
I heard a Sgt from Gun Reg had the answer key for the test, but threw it away. When someone was about to take it out of the trash he yelled' Don't you touch that! Leave it right there!"... something about 10 minutes....
"Why would any PO in their right mind care about the Lts exam in the 1st place?"
Because,maybe,some of you might have aspirations to one day study and get promoted.
The blog is used for information regardless of rank !! ..anyway I think it's the funniest shit about this Lt. Scotchbreath ...although I dont know who he is ..its the funniest shit ever... Where is this guy from ?
Lt. Pemelope Trajanas is black, she is not Greek you idiot.
I thought the test was challenging and did ask questions relavant to being a Lieutenant.
You people will never be satisfied, but who cares, the test was given and that will decide who makes Lt. Their will only be about 35 at the most who will make Lt. via merit on this test, so stop bitching. Some good people actually make it meritoriously.
Last thing, their were over 50 people who did not show up for part 2. So are you telling me they all are so sure they will be meritoriously promoted. I know one Sergeant ane her boyfriend did not attend due to a death in her family, do you think they will have a shot since they had a legitimate excuse?
I ranked in the top 50 on the Detective's test and top 20 on the Sergeant's test. I was just over 150 on the last Lieutenants test and did not make Lieutenant, but so what, I just studied harder this time.
me thinks Sean Flynn knows what's up.
Seiser doesn't have shit on Sean Flynn. while Seiser may run it, Sean Flynn has owned it.
Area 4 LT. M/S never spenta day on the street (unless you consider her stint as Santos' driver or when she was a petal princess in 001.
She spent 30 seconds in 011 before Cmndr. Dean of A/5 had her moved up to A/4 where she gave away the office to make friends and now, after her merit promotion to Lt. she has the balls to tell her Sgt.s whats important on the test. Pleaseeee. Hey Melissa, keep flying the flag, you'll get your gold star in no time at all!
sorry off topic! Anyone know when the new weapons and ammo is going to be finalized?
Was I the only one that found the first question to be pretty difficult?
Which car was the correct one to send to the park. I originally put down the beat car but then I changed that to 2642 based on the other information we were given. Is there a correct answer or only one that is 'correct' in the minds of the subject matter 'experts'?
You white coppers make me laugh, the latest sgt. exam was dumbed down to promote blacks and hispanics. Let me see you(whites)are the best tact guys,swat,narcotic officers, etc...and everyone else doesnt come to par with your race. Get over it, 15 years on and all I see it whites getting all the meritorious spots. The majority of you would be pushing a beat car on a watch if you daddies werent bosses.
There is a f/1 Sgt who did not take the 2nd part of the last Lts test and did not even bother taking this test because her arrogance says she will be made. So no 2nd part and not even signing up for this test and does not even work in a district. Claims she is like a daughter to Cline but is always hanging out with Starks. How could anyone even think of putting her in when she did not even make an attempt to score well or even finish the test and then to be so confident that she did not even take the new test. I hope she remains a Sgt and bitches out Cline and Starks for her not making it like she claims she is going to do. But then again she believes she is making it. Laugh will be on her if she does not make it and then not to have taken the new test so out of the qualification for merit here on in.
If by some chance I make it off this test, it is because I have become a better actor, not a better supervisor. My oral responses were Oscar worthy but total BS.
1/07 10:23am
You aren't serious are you? Penny Trahannas is black her maiden name was Jones. Coppers are sure some dumb assholes.
SOOOO GLAD I DIDNT TAKE THE LT TEST THIS TIME, AND AFTER READING THESE COMMENTS AND HEARING FROM OTHERS WHO TOOK IT I KNOW I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE, THIS JOB IS NOTHING BUT BS NOW, GOD HELP THIS CITY IF SOMERTHING BAD HAPPENS, OH SORRY I MUST BE WRONG, RICHIE SAYS THERE IS NOTHING WRONG AND HOMELAND IS MISTAKEN. TRY TALKING DIRECTLY TO THE FIRE DEPT ON YOUR POLICE RADIO THEN OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT FOR THAT MATTER. GEE WHY DOES EVERYONE ELSE HAVE ISPERN CAPABILITIES BUT WE DONT. VERY, VERY, VERY, SOON ILL BE GONE AND LEAVE WITH A SMILE FROM THIS STRICKLY UNQUALIFIED CLOAT RUN DEPARTMENT WHO'S BOSSES WOULD NOT KNOW A REAL POLICEMAN IF THEY WERE BIT IN THE ASS BY THEM. BUT REMEMBER CAPS WILL SAVE THE DAY, WHAT A JOKE :(:(:(
For those of you asking why you should listen to any supervisor on tis blog; here is your answer: Whether you admit it or not, you do want to become a supervisor. You want to tell all the useless fucks how to do their job (you do on this site even when you're totaly wrong adnd a fucking moron with an I.Q. of 37. Doesn't matter. I actually studied the last couple weeks. The "SPECIAL PEOPLE," including sons of the highest bosses, have been studying since October of last year. I was pissed the entire year until I took the test. If they all get promoted, I will be very pissed. I can recite the orders of what to do in almost any major situation. My officers usually will come to me for advise (or time smart ass0 when they need help. I have been promoted off of the list the first time on two exams. Don't feel I will off of this exam. I actually feel I would have done better had I not studied at all. I so far, have done well on tests. I don't think so this time. Oh Well, I now have one under my belt. I'm only prayig that the next one has something that requires immediate action and accountability. No action needed on this test, only guessing or the answers..... See you in 5 years when I can re-test and get promoted. Stay safe...
"...I just studied harder this time." - 5:29 PM
Are you hallucinating or merely delusional? You actually make it sound like this job is on the legit.
to 11:51:09...No I'm not a new guy, 51 years old,17 years to make sgt, 24 years on the job, all of it in districts, good and bad, several stolen promotions. I've paid my dues, earned my right to bitch. I happen to think some things are more important than what appears to be the prevailing opinion of those who run this dept. You, Sir, are a tool. Enjoy the Kool-Aid.
She spent 30 seconds in 011 before Cmndr. Dean of A/5 had her moved up to A/4
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Staples worked in 010 as a Lt. Do you really think the Cdr of A/5 can dictate who a Lt in A/4 is when he can't pick his own Lt's? There is no shortage of petty, stupid people on this job.
Lt. Pemelope Trajanas is black, she is not Greek you idiot.
I thought the test was challenging and did ask questions relavant to being a Lieutenant.
You people will never be satisfied, but who cares, the test was given and that will decide who makes Lt. Their will only be about 35 at the most who will make Lt. via merit on this test, so stop bitching. Some good people actually make it meritoriously.
Last thing, their were over 50 people who did not show up for part 2. So are you telling me they all are so sure they will be meritoriously promoted. I know one Sergeant ane her boyfriend did not attend due to a death in her family, do you think they will have a shot since they had a legitimate excuse?
I ranked in the top 50 on the Detective's test and top 20 on the Sergeant's test. I was just over 150 on the last Lieutenants test and did not make Lieutenant, but so what, I just studied harder this time.
1/07/2007 05:29:26 PM
Maybe you should have studied the difference between "their" and "there".
And you call others "idiot"? The scarry thing is that YOU are a sgt, much less a possible Lt.
Anonymous said...
This is really puzzling but predictable. This blog is 2nd City Cop as in PO? Why are there 6 comments on the Lt. Exam? Which can only be taken by Sgt? This thread should be shut down& directed to the 2ndCity Sgt. Immediately!
Why would any PO in their right mind care about the Lts exam in the 1st place?
Well, you took the time to read it, and its interesting, and relevant because we all work for them. Plus, I dream of being a Lt. someday. Or maybe a driver. Right now, though, Im the tree that the bosses dogs piss on. Oh well.
10:43 Anonymous said...
For those of you asking why you should listen to any supervisor on tis blog; here is your answer: Whether you admit it or not, you do want to become a supervisor. You want to tell all the useless fucks how to do their job (you do on this site even when you're totaly wrong adnd a fucking moron with an I.Q. of 37. Doesn't matter. I actually studied the last couple weeks. The "SPECIAL PEOPLE," including sons of the highest bosses, have been studying since October of last year. I was pissed the entire year until I took the test. If they all get promoted, I will be very pissed. I can recite the orders of what to do in almost any major situation. My officers usually will come to me for advise (or time smart ass0 when they need help. I have been promoted off of the list the first time on two exams. Don't feel I will off of this exam. I actually feel I would have done better had I not studied at all. I so far, have done well on tests. I don't think so this time. Oh Well, I now have one under my belt. I'm only prayig that the next one has something that requires immediate action and accountability. No action needed on this test, only guessing or the answers..... See you in 5 years when I can re-test and get promoted. Stay safe. You cant even speak english you fuckin goof.typical boss.
SGT ANGELO FROM 019 DISTRICT IS GOING AROUND ALL THE BARS ON CLARK STREET TALKING ABOUT HE IS ALREADY ON HIS WAY
TO BECOME LT. PLEASE TELL ME THIS ISNT TRUE. THATS ALL WE NEED IS ANOTHER ARROGANT LT.
Melissa Staples DID work on the street in 011 for a time. If you don't like her, fine. If you don't like gays, fine. But don't bash her as a woman who hasn't "worked the streets."
She's done her time in Fillmore.
Lots of male bosses haven't done a day in any of the rockin'/rollin" districts of this city. If you're going to critique her career, make sure the measuring stick you're using is a fair one. And you really don't know if she made it meritorious or not, for certain.
I don't either. And even if she did, she still might have some insight to provide on the test YOU took, since she already took the LAST ONE. I've seen people made meritoriously who actually didn't do badly on the test, they just placed a little too far back to have made it in rank order. If your rank score is under 200, you actually did well on the test, just not well enough to get promoted off the list when the 30% meritorious is factored in. How many Sgts. take both parts, between 700/800 maybe?
I just hope 009 gets a decent Lou in the future. We keep getting asshats to run the show and it's getting old. Thank God I've almost got the end of the rope...No more catering to these assfucks!
Dear 1/07/2007 06:53:52 PM,
STAPLES is the best. I haven't seen things this good in A4 since the days of Farrell. I don't care who she dates, don't care if she made it on merit, don't care if you think she doesn't have enough "street" experience. She knows how to take care of her people and keeps the Skull off our backs.
There are plenty of SHIT bosses out there that WERE great PO/Det's. They're two different jobs. So how bout we do the police work, she continues to take care of us and you keep your negative shit in whatever area your from because you are NOT an A4 guy at least not anymore.
If you think being a Seargeant in a busy district is the same as being a Police Officer in a busy district you are fucked in the head. Seargeant has a much eaiser job. Did both. Fuck you did time working in a busy district. If you were never a PO in 011 or 015 or 007 etc dont tell me you know what its all about by being a sgt there.
You dont work the streets as a sergeant. You do seargeant shit
Anonymous said...
You white coppers make me laugh, the latest sgt. exam was dumbed down to promote blacks and hispanics. Let me see you(whites)are the best tact guys,swat,narcotic officers, etc...and everyone else doesnt come to par with your race. Get over it, 15 years on and all I see it whites getting all the meritorious spots. The majority of you would be pushing a beat car on a watch if you daddies werent bosses.
1/07/2007 08:25:59 PM
In OCD over the past few years many have made merit Sgt. and a Lt or two. Most have been minorities.
JR
DB
GC all minorities
LW
RR
MG white (as you say it)
If anyone believes that dealing with a gay activist protesting outside of a church is relevant to the job of Lt you are crazy. Shouldn't the P.O.'s deal with that and then if there is a problem a sgt should handle it? The deputy chief question--if these are realistic scenarios--shouldn't the Supt have training sessions for the exempt and order them to stop interfering by attempting to get the wrong people into spots.
What about the arrest report, Retail theft, Agg Batt, resisting. There is a law that says the use of force during a retail theft against a merchant "as defined in ILCS" is an agg batt. However, the merchant took the property back and the offender took the property from the MERCHANT and punched the merchant in the nose. Taking property from a person by the use or threat of force is a robbery(class 2)felony as opposed to the class three Ag Batt. We are supposed to attempt to get the highest charges for the crime. I called felony review and they said that no one can ever remember using the Ag Batt charge for a merchant during a retail theft. Yet these vare supposed to be realistic scenarios. Bull!
I was in the academy back in 91 with staples and I can tell you her prior job was a manager of a Bakers Square store. I ran into her once at a crime scene when she was a Sgt. in area 4 I was a Sgt. also She talked down to me, acted like she never met me. I was only a violent crimes dick before I made sgt. Made it on my own both Dick and Sgt. but I know nothing according to you Mellisa Merit.
Thr only good lieutenant is an irish Catholic. God fearing religious men like the Southside Irish make the best CPD bosses. Complain all you want, but CPD will always recognize the Chicago Irish boss.
Merit in 022 w/23 yrs
Cmdr Roy will be leaving us in April to take on his new role of Area 1 Dep. Chief. He will be missed by all here in 009. He hasn't officially informed the district as of yet, but those of us on 2nd Watch closest to him are clearly upset he is jumping the ship.
Who will 009 anoint this time?
Rumor has it CW from 005 is looking at the DC slot?
Dean Andrews is not part of HAPA at all, Thank God. Get your facts straight retard. And quit bitching. What, the Irish get all the spots, its our turn now. Hehehehe......
With all the so called "higher education" 1969 has achieved, me thinks he should score in top 1%. I hope he isnt relying on a merit spot again. It would be shame to have all those Bu-- S--t degrees but not be able to score high enough to get promoted.
SGT ANGELO FROM 19. COCKY INSECURE ARROGANT DUDE. HE GOT PICKED ON IN HIGH SCHOOL FOR SURE. I KNOW HE HAS BEEN TELLLING PEOPLE HE IS GOING TO BE A LT. I FEEL BAD FOR THE GUYS THAT GOT TO WORK WITH HIM. LOSER. IT WILL CATCH UP TO HIM. HE HAS NO CLUE WHO HE HAS BEEN TALKING TO WHEN HE SAYS HE IS GOING TO BE A LT. FOOLISH. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HUMBLE AND KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT. EVEN IF HE BECOMES LT HE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE SOFT SPOKEN. WHAT A BIG MOUTH. NO CLASS. IT WILL COME FULL CIRCLE TO PEOPLE LIKE HIM. THIS IS A JOB WHERE YOU NEED TO BE QUIET AND DO YOUR JOB AND RELIZE THAT THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TALKING TO HAVE FRIENDS. HE HAS NO IDEA
I am perplexed, I didn't thinl I had to do the oral, I've been doing that at 35th Street for years.
can anyone answer what was wrong with that arrest report
what five things do you ask the PO at the scene of the bar incident.
Rumor has it that Lt. Scotcbreath is now living above his favorite saloon because mama threw his tired old drunkin ass out.
To the misguided person who thinks they wasted many hours studying on what do do in critical incidents:
"Knowledge is Power" (an old Greek guy called Ari)
When the shit hits the fan and you find yourself knwing how to properly react, as others above, below and around you fail miserably, you may even live thru it all and learn to appreciate the value of accurate knowledge, which is unfortunately a very rare commodity these days in CPD management ranks.
Or, as they used to say in the Military: "Listen Up Maggots: This shit might just save your ass!"
Lt. J. Ball says...
When I started making donut runs for the 16th ward office, little did I know I'd be made a Detective for it. I then started getting Shirley Coleman's car washed every week to make Sgt. But the once a month DETAIL job on her ride got me where I am today! Now get some weapon turn ins, boys, or I'll dump yo' ass!
025 DUSTRICT OFFICERS SAYS
I HOPE SGT JEROME TOOK THE LT TEST AND IS PROMOTED, GOOD SUPERVISOR AND GOOD LEADERSHIP AND PEOPLE SKILLS.
ok, so who made the shoplifting caper (on the writen portion) a strong arm robbery?? i did not, but it sounds like that was the correct answer.....
Staples was a Sgt in 011 and a Lt in 010.
I endorse Mike Voight to become a merit Lt. He is on the Bd. Of Dirs. and deserves being a merit Lt. just like he was a merit Sgt. The FOP supported him then and supports him now. Good luck Sgt. Voight (soon to be Lt., if I have anything to say.) - Signed, Mark Donahue
3:40 pm
Lt. Richie Scotchbreath (AKA Scott) is the Tact/Gang Lt in 008th District. They claim he is a worthless boss that rarely says a kind word not followed by a tongue lashing for something stupid and then threatening to dump them. I hear he likes to drink a bit, too...but always seems sober at work when I see him. Just an asshole, really. He seems to get off on hurting other coppers, but claims he has never hurt anyone. I guess just treating all your men like shit is ok, huh? I am surprised he even has any guys with more than 5 years still on his teams.
Anonymous said...
025 DUSTRICT OFFICERS SAYS
I HOPE SGT JEROME TOOK THE LT TEST AND IS PROMOTED, GOOD SUPERVISOR AND GOOD LEADERSHIP AND PEOPLE SKILLS.
1/08/2007 02:58:26 PM
THanks Don, But we all know your opinion of yourself already.
p.s. DUSTRICT ??
Flash...3 days late...
The old in saying: Notify the Watch Commander
The new saying: The correct charge is Robbery.
Remember, there are no trick questions if you are given the answer!
Jerome quit writing about yourself
If 95% of the Sergeants got the Arrest Report question wrong, does that mean it was a bad question or that all of the CPD's Sergeants idiots?
Puzzle Tonight on
Wheel of Fortune...
Subject...Occupation.
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Answer:
P O L I C E
L I E U T E N A N T
Coincidence?
I endorse Mike Voight to become a merit Lt. He is on the Bd. Of Dirs. and deserves being a merit Lt. just like he was a merit Sgt. The FOP supported him then and supports him now. Good luck Sgt. Voight (soon to be Lt., if I have anything to say.) - Signed, Mark Donahue
1/08/2007 03:37:55 PM
and then let him stay on at the f.o.p doing what he does now and that is nothing. signed M.D
For the retail theft/arrest report question ILCS 720 ILCS 5/12?4(b)(15): “Sec. 12?4. Aggravated Battery.
(a) A person who, in committing a battery, intentionally or knowingly causes great bodily harm, or permanent disability or disfigurement commits aggravated battery.
(b) In committing a battery, a person commits aggravated battery if he or she:
(15) Knowingly and without legal justification and
by any means causes bodily harm to a merchant who detains the person for an alleged commission of retail theft under Section 16A?5 of this Code. In this item (15), "merchant" has the meaning ascribed to it in Section 16A?2.4 of this Code.
My question is: Should it be Strong Arm Robbery or Retail Theft and a Agg, Battery.
The Robbery is a class 2 felony and the Retail Theft is either a misd or a class 4 Felony depending if there is a prior conviction or not. The Agg Bat is a class 3 Felony.
Why would they have a charge for Agg Bat of Merchant if that was always a Strong Arm Robbery?
I put down that the arrest report was missing the background check to see if the guy had any felony convictions. Does anyone know the correct answer?
Since when does ANY district have a printer that prints messages to the W.C. double-sided? I guess I've been assigned to the less wealthy districts with crap printers! ( there were messages on the back of a page I hear)
Double sided messages to the W.C???
There were messages on the reverse side of the paper regarding emergency time due- all of that high technology I've never witnessed in the PATROL DIVISION! Back to the drawing board I go...
Lots of male bosses haven't done a day in any of the rockin'/rollin" districts of this city.
You West side Warriors can stop beating your chests anytime now.
011 is by far the most overrated district in the city, filled with nothing but Bosses Kids & Horseshit 1/2Ass POs who think they walk on water with the daily one rock dope pinch.BTW Been there done that w/ the fillmore clowns, I'll work w/ a PO from 016 whos got his shit together any day.
Signed Not a fan of Federal Court
He took the bag back from the merchant after punching him, hence Robbery.
I know why Staples talked down to you. Read your post and you will too. You're an asshole. What did you do before you came on the job, train Superman?
Anonymous said...
Thr only good lieutenant is an irish Catholic. God fearing religious men like the Southside Irish make the best CPD bosses. Complain all you want, but CPD will always recognize the Chicago Irish boss.
Merit in 022 w/23 yrs
1/08/2007 08:54:53 AM
An attitude like that gives all the mules, democrats, etc.. a reason to beef. So shut the fuck up!
I don't think the charge should be Agg batt. On paper it is, but so is a simple battery on a public way or a licensed establishment. If that's the case, then the bar question would be answered differently because you have a battery in a bar and it is now a felony incident requiring Detectives, etc...
It is also the lower of the two charges. As a Watch Commander you are required to seek the highest charge against the individual and Robbery is a class 2 while agg batt of the merchant is a class 3.
Just my two Cents...
These could be the "special study groups'" special senarios....
SGT ANGELO FROM THE 019 DISTRICT IS ALREADY TELLING EVERYONE HE IS GOING TO BE LT. IN THE 16TH DISTRICT. ON DAYS.
Sgt Jerome was the best Sgt. the 007th District ever saw. For the month he was there. Complained to a Street Deputy about how long of a drive he had from up North to the 007th District and BAM, he got transferred the next period to a Northside District. Must be nice.
Are you kidding me, Lt. Scotchbreath is fucked up 24-7. This guy showes up to work whenever he crawls out of bed, stays 2 to 3 hours then is right back in the gin mill. Drive past TR"S pub on 111 and pulaski anytime this guy is not at work and you will find his tac car hidden behind the apartment buildings to the east of the pub. He used to put ot accross the street in the agricultural school lot until the boss in 022 got wind of it. All summer he keeps his golf clubs in the trunk of the company car, comes in for his few hours then its off for golf and cocktails all day long only to drive home stewed in the city car.
It's funny, the guys complaining about someone else's juice are usually the ones first in line for that free meal or cup of coffee. Oh right, that hookup is O.K.
I'm a decent copper, and I'm a Muslim. There are more of us being hired year after year. I don't buy into that crap about Irish Catholic being the best bosses. You've already seen the first Muslim Congressman. Soon we will have Muslims in the rank of Lt. and Capt. (We have already made the Sgt. ranks here in CPD).
We want our piece of the American Dream too!!
The reason Lt Scotchbreath's car is always at the bar is because he lives in an apartment right there...but I am sure he spends more time at the bar than in his bed.
I am writing this not expecting change, but merely to convey the deep sense of frustration that I feel personally and which is seemingly prevalent among all of the sergeants who took part II of the lieutenant’s exam.
For six months encompassing the summer and the major holidays we studied over one thousand pages of department directives, legal bulletins, rules and regulations and law. Lives were placed on hold and time spent with families reduced as we poured over page after page of general orders, memorizing procedures and developing a solid foundation upon which we mistakenly believed would be the source of the test. This was not the case however. Instead, we were greeted by an extremely subjective and ambiguous exam that was not based in department directives but rather speculation and guessing as to what the “subject matter experts” felt was important. We have no bulletin, no order, and no teletype to call upon to determine the proper answers to these questions. Even now, no one can come to a consensus about what was right and wrong because no one has anything other than opinion upon which to base their conclusions. And to make matters worse, we have no idea what the point values are for each question or for the test as a whole. We have no idea how a question calling for a single answer is graded versus a question that has eight.
An arrest report with at least three items incorrect, we are called upon to guess which the “experts” consider the main problem. Why not explain everything that was wrong with the arrest report, why choose only one? And where do we look to determine which incorrect item is the main problem? Isn’t every problem with an arrest report something to be concerned with? And who would approve an arrest report after having the main problem corrected but leaving the other, less important items uncorrected?
Other questions such as three items to discuss at roll call, eight missions to employ following gang violence and five questions to ask officers at the scene of a licensed premise investigation continue to baffle us. Again, there is no consensus because there is no factual basis upon which to gauge our responses. A test which was supposedly designed to test our knowledge instead called upon us to guess as to the correct answer. I would venture to guess that with seventy-five watch commanders we would not have all seventy-five agreeing as to the answers. We could find all seventy-five agreeing however, on the proper procedures for a police shooting, or an HBT incident or anything else that has its basis in the general orders, but these were not the questions asked of us.
Again, I expect nothing to come from this other than to express the frustration and dismay felt by the majority of sergeants who sat through the exam. Many of us sacrificed a great deal during the last six months expecting a fair chance, and instead sat down to a guessing game and binders full of useless knowledge.
Sgt. AH thinks he will be made Lt because of the fiasco with the former 5th Dist D/C in 019. Remember that people when the former D/C rushed the station when his son was arrested?. Sgt. AH was the Desk Sgt.
Oh, and by the way SCC. Why did you not show my post about LT. MS and her exploits in the fighting 020. It was all true. If you need verification ask a 020 ranger who was there in the early 90's.
Hey Sgt. Owens is a great sarge. It's funny how guys complain when they dont get things their way but I dont see any of you loud mouth's jumping ship back to the watch. To much work for you or the uniform dont fit? Maybe one day you can make sgt. whether merit or on your own and we can read what an asshole you become!!
1140
Well since we are playing spelling nazi, the proper spelling is SCARY
not SCARRY.
Anonymous said...
1140
Well since we are playing spelling nazi, the proper spelling is SCARY
not SCARRY.
1/09/2007 10:12:49 PM
I prefer "SCURRY."
"Again, I expect nothing to come from this other than to express the frustration and dismay felt by the majority of sergeants who sat through the exam. Many of us sacrificed a great deal during the last six months expecting a fair chance, and instead sat down to a guessing game and binders full of useless knowledge."
Excellent post, you hit the nail right on the head with that one. Fortunately, I didn't read one G.O. since Part I.....I was worried, but after the test I felt a lot better about having not wasted so much time. Instead I was able to continue my daily routine of procrastinating while sitting in my living room wearing my stained wife-beater tee and boxers (READ: both stained) and watch "The View" and play video games. However, I too prepared for many different scenarios the last couple days before the test and was ready for Haz-Mat, drunken police, off-duty domestics, police shootings, CR#s, etc., etc., etc. But there was none of this!! Total bullshit public relations and dealing with a dickhead ADS who wants you to do him a favor?? WTF? It really made zero sense to me.
Has anyone stepped up and complained about any portion of the test yet? Who do you beef too? Personnel? Somebody step up....I really need the arrest report portion tossed!
. . . "For six months encompassing the summer and the major holidays we studied over one thousand [pages] . . . Lives were placed on hold and time spent with families reduced as we poured over page after page" . . .
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That’s because you drank the 'Robert's Study Group Kool-Aid" just like I did.
Don't you remember how the Sergeant's test was that you made it off of?? It’s like tossing a fucking coin! I scored 4000+ on the 1993 Sgt’s test and then scored around 320 on the 1998 test and made it. I studied just as hard for both as I did this LT’s test and all I can say is... it's nothing more the a crap shoot.
I feel like a total jackass blowing over $1000.00 bucks on Roberts and Bernstein’s classes. WORSE YET.. I went blind from having to look at Gushes ass as she told us to "Pull the pieces of meat out of the general orders like your pullin' it out of a chicken" Hell.. she ate all the damn chicken and the general orders.
MY ADVISE TO ALL.. forget study groups.. study just hard enough to know the "recall" orders to past the first part of the Sgt/Lt's test.. Then.. just review a little for part 2 and go over scenarios in your mind.
SAVE YOUR MONEY!! I have spoken to many sergeants, lieutenants and old captains (when they were REAL captains who took an exam) who said they never even cracked a book and got lucky. (without a phone call)
Just remember!! DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID! And if you did.. remember you can write off all the study groups, law books and supplies on your taxes.
Hey Sgt. Owens is a great sarge. It's funny how guys complain when they dont get things their way but I dont see any of you loud mouth's jumping ship back to the watch. To much work for you or the uniform dont fit? Maybe one day you can make sgt. whether merit or on your own and we can read what an asshole you become!!
1/09/2007 09:02:53 PM
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fuck him. its a lot less work in uniform than on his team. more perks too 663 team gets NO play
"I'm a decent copper, and I'm a Muslim. There are more of us being hired year after year. I don't buy into that crap about Irish Catholic being the best bosses."
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I'm a boss who's an Irish Muslim.. I may have a small wee-wee but you should see my camels!
Lt. Scotchbreath sounds cool as hell! Sounds like your typical meritorious, Irish, alcoholic blowhard. So much for transferring to 008 and joining Tac. Keep on drinking Scotchbreath and you'll make Commander soon enough!
Let me start by saying that I believe the answer that they wanted was robbery. I feel that the elements for robbery were present. With that being said, I think the problem with the question is in the wording. They asked for the main problem with the arrest report. There were, we can all hopefully agree, at least three and perhaps as many as five items wrong on the arrest report that needed to be addressed. It seems to be rather subjective to ask us to select one of several reasons why an arrest report cannot be approved, when we could not in fact approve it until all of the errors were corrected. The better question would have been to identify all of the errors in the arrest report and what would need to be done to correct them. By not doing that, they made the question very subjective and open to multiple interpretations as is evident by these discussions.
Anonymous said...
Lt. Scotchbreath sounds cool as hell! Sounds like your typical meritorious, Irish, alcoholic blowhard. So much for transferring to 008 and joining Tac. Keep on drinking Scotchbreath and you'll make Commander soon enough
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Bigot piece of shit! I am Irish and have no juice, I am a P.O. for life. I am sober as a judge. people like you make me puke!
The taking of property by force, ROBBERY. The question was asked at the academy on Tues from a recruit class and surprise-surprise they all got it right. Easy question. To those of you who answered this question incorrectly you should not be promoted ahead of any of those recruits who answered it in the academy correctly.
I did not take the second part of the test, because I have become so disenchanted by this department. I used to enjoy being the police, and was proud when I made Sgt. (off the list) I took two previous Lt tests, and both had some type of controversy attached to them. I only took the first part, because my family encouraged me to do so but by the time the second part came around I came back to my senses and realized I don't want the dissappointment again.
I am not bitter nor am I complaining the choice to not take the second part was mine and I am happy with it. There are people out there that deserve merit promotions, unfortunatley most fall through the cracks. They are destined to remain a Sgt for the rest of their career. If that happens to me so be it, I have been told that I am a good Sgt and one the troops are happy to work with. Sounds sappy but true it's nice to be appreciated by someone on this job!!!!
Dear Mr. Idiot who commented on 1/07/2007 11:40:49 PM, all you can think of is a grammatical error? Wow, that is why you spend all of your time anxiously waiting for the opportunity to say some stupid shit on this site. How about the information he tried to give you and the example he tried to use in hopes of you learning something or even being motivated to not pass the first time but keep striving, and not just sit back and be angry. I know if I was just over or under 150 and did not make Lt., I would be pissed, but he said he just studied a little harder. You think it is a lesson there?
That is why he is a Sergeant, I am a great Detective and you are a pissed off P.O. that will never even make it to spend your pension with the anger and hostility you hold inside. Are you sure you are not just frustrated becasue you walk around with "idiot" on your forhead and you are trying to hide your true sexual appetite and preference? I bet you were in the protest at the church on the Lt.'s test.
6:53:52......It's obvious you have never worked for Lt. Staples because your facts are all wrong. She was a Sgt. on the watch and then a Gang Sgt. all in 011. Few years later she took the test and never hid the fact that she made it meritorious. She was a great Sgt. and is now a great Lt. and Area 4 is lucky to have her. You should leave her personal life out of this because we a could probably guess what your's entails and it's a pretty ugly picture.
Maureen Biggane coming to Area 1 so she can get meritoriously promoted. Phil doesn't want the second little dolly to make it out of his office like Michelle Engstrom. Maureen is a basket case after getting dumped by the new guy on the boats. An undeserved promotion should cure the 35th street blues.
Lt's list is coming out soon, illustrated by the fact Biggane is going to A/1. Engstrom was sent to a district a few weeks before she was made merit. Panepinto went back to vice and a month later he was in the Lt's class on merit. Does anyone see a pattern here? Submit your resume to become the Sup's admin Sgt. and you too will be on the road to merit Lt.
If not, hook up with a "subject matter expert" and get the key word answers for the next Lt's test and make it "legit."
What a f#*$ing joke!
How many took it? What is the "expected date" of grades being returned?
UP HERE IN GOD'S COUNTRY MANY, MANY, MANY, SGT'S DID NOT TAKE THE LT'S TEST.(I JUST WANT TO MAKE SGT OR DIC ).....
THE SCHOOL OF THOUGHT IS, IT'S BETTER TO BE A SGT. WORKING OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, THAN BEING A LT. WORKING ON MIDNIGHT'S FOR THE NEXT 3-5 YRS IN THE GHETTO...............
PLUS THEY ARE ALL MAXED OUT.....
SO, SAY WHAT YOU WILL. FIND A NICHE,(SPOT) AND COLLECT A CHECK, FUCK THE REST, IT'S ALL ABOUT TIMEOFF, FAMILY, WALWORTH COUNTY, AND KEEPING YOUR HEAD LOW AND YOUR POWDER DRY.
TILL THEN, SEE YOU AT POPEYES OR CHUCK'S, JUST KEEP THE COOLER FILLED. YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
BY THE WAY, THERE AIN'T NOTHING LIKE POLICING YOUR HOOD!!!
FOREVER I/F....................
P.S.S FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND I/F, WELL JUST SAY I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD EVER HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT, SO I WON'T!!!!!!!
BE SAFE..........................
I am not shitting you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Test is already going to a Federal Monitor (per source in legal affairs). There were tech problems in the oral portion. About 40 people made complaints because the scenario would only allow them several seconds to answer on certain questions. We ain't gonna see the results for a long time, if ever.
It doesn't matter how well you score, exempts know who their people are. The Sgt could of drawn pictures in the first portion of the exam and said nothing during the oral portion and they will still get it "off the list." I few of us Sgt's will make it legiminately but most will get it due to clout & politics. At least with the merit Lt's, everyone knows that you are a merit sellection and some people may get alittle embarrassed. The clout clowns can brag about making it "off the list" but realisticlly they got it due to their clout (and a long line of dick smooching...)
Good luck to the one's who deserve it: A fellow Sgt. for life.
Dear 1/08/2007 07:35:50 AM-
It's apparent that you have no clue what a sergeant does in a busy district or a slow district for that matter because you can't even spell "seargeant."
Being a sergeant in the ghetto is no easy job. Working on 5-6 C.R.'s at a time as well as infraction reports, SPARS, making sure your guys and gals are put in for Honorable mentions and Department Commendations, etc., coupled with working the street is no easy task if you are supervisor who is about "doing the right thing”...no matter what and taking care of your troops no matter what...even if you as a supervisor are at risk for taking a hit. I was a ghetto sergeant with no ghetto experience as a P.O. and I would go to the wall for my guys and would take time before I would let them take time.
You have obviously never been a sergeant and have no clue what you’re talking about. Don't judge the job until you have walked in our shoes.
Your obviously one of those guys from a ghetto district who has seen it all, done it all, and knows everything there is to know on this job. You make the rest of us who love working in the ghetto look bad with your dumb ass comments and ignorance.
I recommend spending less time on the blog and more time learning how to spell simple words like easier, not “eaiser”, as well as proper punctuation.
Hey Sgt. Owens is a great sarge. It's funny how guys complain when they dont get things their way but I dont see any of you loud mouth's jumping ship back to the watch. To much work for you or the uniform dont fit? Maybe one day you can make sgt. whether merit or on your own and we can read what an asshole you become!!
1/09/2007 09:02:53 PM
He is an ASSHOLE like his thug son fuck him
Dear 1/11/07 6:15 42 pm,
We know, you were the working police when you were a p.o. and now you are a working SERGEANT(Did I spell it right teacher sergeant sir). Oh yea you made it off the list too,right. I thought so. Oh yea and one more thing, I forgot to thank you for all you do as a supervisor all day. Well thank you for that to sir.I guess you are something special where ever you work.You know what, when you get some spare time with all that you do for us, put yourself in for a department comendation sir. And again, thank you for being here for us.
To 1/11/2007 10:39:59 PM
1. I work hard at whatever job I have had and whatever job I will have. It’s the way I was raised.
2. Yes, I did make it on my own.
3. I don’t put myself in for Department Commendations, only ignorant supervisors would jump on the good work of coppers.
4. I don’t want or expect a thank you from any officer or supervisor.
5. The saddest part about this whole conversation is the fact that if you worked for me, I would go to wall for you as well and would take a day rather than hanging you out to dry if I could.
6. Your welcome, I will be there for a blue shirt until the day I die.
It’s simply “the right thing to do.”
7. You spelled “Yea” wrong :)…..it’s Yeah.
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