Rumors Abound!
Just reading the various comments sections, there are a bunch of rumors that need to be aired out and have their own posts. Some of these are really fun to see:
- Callback, 3-1-1, Alternate Response, or whatever name they are going by this year is going to be purged of long term medical cases (heart, kidney, pregnancy, etc) who will then be assigned by some unknown process to the District desks or Admin offices, thereby freeing up able bodied coppers for the street. We've heard this one before on an almost annual basis. Expect union problems for the Desk bid spots among other things.
- 008th District purge. After the recent incident, rumors abound of some changes by sometime Friday. This is about the softest of rumors and always seems to pop up after an "incident." But then we remember the Matthews incident in 019 and the demotion that followed. Who knows what could happen?
- 021 to close and 008 being split into two districts - one of which will be the new and improved 021. Of course, any change like this is at least 2 years away since they'll need to build a new station at some point.
- Sergeant results to be mailed out as soon as Friday or Tuesday. Again, a regular rumor but getting louder again. Who knows anything?
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
111 Comments:
here's what I've heard, for what it's worth: there are about 500 people on limited or convalescent duty (dept. wide). Some of them will be assigned to the districts, so that the personnel they replace (front office, caps staffs, etc.) can then be re-deployed to beat cars. Since they are on ld/cd, they are only assigned to inside/office duties. The practical effect: personnel being "re-deployed" are being "re-hidden", if you will (taken care of/covered by their d/c), in an effort to keep them off of the beat cars, and out of sight of 35th Street. It appears to be the ultimate version of a shell game, where the respective d/c's shift, hide, rename, and renumber new/old field units in an effort to subvert the latest directive. What seems to be happening now is: CPD Personnel Dodgeball: District Commanders v D/S Charley Williams....
To the same three or four officers who probably got "dumped" from Tact or the 2nd Watch because they are useless pieces of crap, all this critcism that you are spewing at the Bosses in 008, will come back to haunt the 008th District. No Boss is going to get dumped for doing his job. I wasn't at the roll call so I'm not going to support the commander's words or actions. However, it's very apparent that the 3 or 4 officers who continue to bash the D/C, the Tact Lt., Tact Sgt. and P.O. Barrett aren't doing this to improve working conditions in the 008th District, but it's very apparent from the continued posts that you guys (or girls) were dumped for being useless. Get over it and move on. The D/C may be a dickhead, but he's no drunk, never was a drinker, he wasn't a "supercop" - but he was a good cop who did his job and made some decent arrests.
Boys and girls, what you witnessed from the D/C last week was the way bosses handled things in the past. They would scream and yell, put on a show, but in the end not jam anyone and then they would move on - they had their say and it was over.
Keep it up, keep bashing the bosses in 008 and find out first hand that there is a fraternity among the bosses.
You three or four disgruntled officers - keep up the negative and trashy posts and find the inspectors visiting your check-offs and roll calls.
If things are that bad on the 3rd Watch in 008, then all you 3rd Watch guys & girls band together and make a statement. Have the balls to come in early for check - off this Friday night -- come in right on the hour, put your stuff away and show up for check-off in you civilian jacket. Jam your sergeants and your W/C while an inspector writes you up.
All these posts you've written against the D/C - do not cast him in a negative light to 35th Street, all you've done is stick it to your 3rd Watch Sergeants for not enforcing D/S Williams edict to come in at 15 minutes after. You also stuck it to your 3rd Watch Captain and Lts. for not enforcing it. You also jammed the midnight W/C and Lts. for not enforcing it. Good job, because you three of four guys have a hate thing for the D/C, you brought down the other bosses.
I'll gaurantee you an inspector will walk in unannounced about 5 minutes after the hour for check off roll call this Friday night.
Have the guts to stand up for your rights by coming in early.
You same three or four officers have been trash-talking all week. You guys aren't even that slick. The majority of the comments you've been making, you've made before to anyone who would listen. The majority of the troops (in 008, 022 and 009) know who you are and why your so bitter.
You all got dumped for being useless and now it's revenge time.
Now, I'll sit back and wait for everyone to trash talk me, but if you a working cop with a little time on the job - you know I'm right.
CLOSE 021? YEAH RIGHT!, I'M SURE THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO WILL GO ALONG WITH THAT.
This is no rumor.
Fact: 9th district 3rd watch has some kind of lame semi-incident team going which is in disguise by using all the watch's rapid cars. Yes, that's right, the rapid cars are in plain close and DO NOT ANSWER ANY CALLS!! I wish i was kidding you. Now, the beat cars are being sent all over the place pulling double duty answering calls everywhere. 009 is no small district and handles a huge volume of calls and to take away the busiest watch's rapid cars is just insane. I hope whoever's idiotic idea this was gets his/her ass chewed out for it. I'd like to have that person come out and handle all these jobs. What once was such a great, fun, and UNITED watch now is fracturing fast and is full of animosity and bad blood. Everyone is pissed off. It's really getting ugly and becoming a bad place to work. I just hope they do something about this soon before it gets out of hand. Either make those guys tact and put them upstairs and give the watch the rapids back, or scrap the idea all together. The one rotating c/d dress car was ok, but not 5-6 of them and the wagon.
Everyone knows, especially in 009, that when the watch isn't happy, the numbers will most definitely reflect that.
Take this for what it is worth because I know with this job nothing is true until it is actually done.
My source is high ranking, very reliable and trustworthy. My confidence level in this information is HIGH. REPEATING HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE.
008th District:
Friday, will bring about the following changes:
D/C launched but may receive a lateral position out of Patrol Division.
Lt. Richie Scotchbreath will be transferred to an inside position at Headquarters, placed on personal concern for an "addiction." City is very worried that if he smashes into 5 school kids with a M plate car while impaired that this blog is proof in itself that it was widely known that a problem existed and was not addressed by the City.
A certain P.O. (D.B.) will be placed back to his assigned position at 051 (Airport Law South).
Two Tactical Sgt's and a Watch Sgt. will be reassigned.
But this may not be good news for the 8th District. The new D/C may have been "told" to do whatever he/she has to in order to correct the problems on third watch and to "closely supervisor the 3rd watch". Meaning their complaining of a "yelling", publicly and when they were in the "wrong" may cause many to wish they would have kept their mouths shut.
Good Luck To All and Good Night
WTF is plain close??
Hello, it's plain clothes.
Sgt. Chucky wants the wolf-pack to return to 025.
1/11/2007 01:48:59 AM
HEY, I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU ONLY BRING HEAT ON THE SUPERVISORS WHO CAN TAKE CARE OF THE TROOPS.
BUT DUDE, KEEP THE COMMENTS BRIEF! I DON'T WANT TO READ A WHOLE NOVEL...
YOUR GOOD THOUGHTS GET LOST AFTER THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.
The laziest cocksuckers on 3rd Watch were "made" B team members. Keep congratulating yourselves on your new "assignment". We'll keep laughing at you punk asses!
Roy you are going to regret this new Project 6 pack team...Trust us.
-009 beat guy
I can tell you for a fact that a Dist in Area 3 had to dump a few house mouses. All the house mouses are still being taken care of by the D/C. This department will never change.
Up until this past week, I had a lot of respect for the cops who worked the 008th District. It's a huge district with a high volume of calls and lots of shootings and robberies.
I lost all respect I had for your District. It sounds like the majority of the 008th District are nothing but whiners.
Now it is coming to light what an injustice that parents of small children in the late 70's and the '80's did to their kids by not giving them a crack on the butt when they deserved it. Everything for this generation was rewarded. Mediocrity was rewarded. Everyone got a trophy or a medal for just showing up to play an organized sport. You did not have to earn it, just have Mom or Dad drive you to your games and you get a reward.
"B" teams were started in schools so that no feelings got hurt because you were not a good enough to make the real team. And instead of your parents admitting that their kids suck at sports, they blame the school administration, the coaches, the parents of the "A" team kids - because after all, the "A" team kids didn't make the team because they earned the spot, they got it because the parents were in the right "clique."
It looks like the "A" teams works districts like 007, 010, & 011 while the 008th District got stuck with all the kids from the "B" teams of the '70's and '80's.
Instead of coming to work and doing your job, you want Mommy and Daddy to bring you a treat and your bosses to constantly reward you.
Grow up 008 District - your a group of 2nd rate "B" team players.
Stop your God Damn whining, I don't care if your the biggest dog asses on the job, at least have the decency to act like an adult and not disgrace this whole department with your bullshit whining.
I can't believe that with all the criticism of the bosses in the 008th District - no one has yet to mention that nitwit Lt. on the 3rd Watch. Lt. C.E. C.E. does not even know the elements of a burglary. He's a political hack and nothing more.
Oh, I forgot, Lt. C.E. was a P.O. in 008, merit Sgt & came back to 008, merit Lt. and came back to 008.
So apparently there is a brotherhood here, we stick up for our own, C.E. is 008th District all the way so we don't criticize him. Too bad, he's useless and doesn't have a clue, just has a very influential State wide Politician as his neighbor.
I'm not one of the chosen Project 6-pack in 009. I am not jealous of their B team perks either. I am sick and tired of their pompous attitudes! You people were on beat cars just like us. All of a sudden you think you are elite. You have forgotten your friends you hacks!
Some of you asshats were overheard badmouthing your former partners. GFY! Just remember WHEN this B team disbands and it WILL with the likes of lazy asshats like R.R, J.W, etc...You'll be coming back to US!
You lazy clowns don't have the numbers and you certainly don't have the backup now. Dig it!
-Word in 009
I heard that that was the last Lt. test and the order is already written up to make future promotions similar to the captains. You put in a resume and they pick you 100% merit or rather clout. Anyone else hear this. The city will save thousands if not a million and they get whoever they want.
Rumor: Cmdr Roy of 009 will be the next Area 1 Deputy Chief. After not being selected for the position several times--he is due before Phil retires.
Fact: Cmdr Roy is singlehandedly destroying the 3rd Watch with the newly formed B team.
Rumor: CPT Matula is returning to 009 as the next DC.
Fact: The new Project 6-pack B team were chosen merely by popularity contest. We ALL know you guys don't have the numbers...
Rumor: CPT Crotty is returning to Midnights.
Fact: The B team DOES NOT answer any calls and is totally screwing their former partners.
009 is a shitty place to be right now.
Rumor: 009 3rd Watch B team are going to make the largest difference in crime.
Fact: Only clout babies in 009 can get on the B team.
Any other facts or rumors about the Project 6-pack?
-009 copper
Off Topic:
Anyone know what is going on with the newly approved weapons order? What guns are to be included?
You think 008 is bad? You ought to see the destruction of the 3rd watch in 009. Never saw this coming...Rumor is that Roy is going to be the next Deputy Chief, so he could care less about his District now.
This new B team is the end of all that was nice about working in 009. Heard Days and Mids are next to make a B team?
Any facts to support these rumors?
-009
You all can go f*&( off. Jimmy Carroll was the best of the best in his tact sgt days. Was a Fantastic Lt. A working copper who cared as much about his men as a father cares about his kids. Funny how everyone on this blog slams 009 but lest we forget the history of "upstairs in 009" Every one on his team ...Promoted or in a unit, he's a Commander now, the tact Lt. then is a Dept Supt now One tact guy is a commander of 007 now .
Everyone whos bitchin are the non workin fucks who give 008 a bad rap they never worked, dont want to work,and wont work. Bring back the efficency cards, bounce lazy asses off the early start cars,let em bid out. Keeep up the good work
Cmd.Carroll.
The MAIN concern of the beat cars in 009 is the FACT that neither the park car or the B team answer any calls!
Why should the beat cars get overwhelmed with the RAP? Even the dispatchers are cursing the fact that the B team and park car won't lend a hand anymore. Did they FORGET they too are blue?
Park car? USELESS!!! Gimme a break! ALL they have to do is check a few parks and make an arrest. They should definitely help answering calls.
You want to make things fair on 3rd Watch in 009, then start with these above problems.
Seriously, the 3rd Watch is becoming unglued fast and it's getting extremely ugly to come to work anymore. NO BACKUP, CONSTANT BICKERING, PETTY ARGUMENTS...It's really destroying something in 009. Never thought I would be considering going back to 007, but at least they were united.
1/11/2007 02:44:21 AM
Sounds nice but I think because Carroll does his job it won't happen. 008 Commder is doing his job, period. How he does it can be suspect but he does the job the city asks of him. That tact sgt. we know who, he is a joke so who cares. The tact Lt. again he is not drunk all day, he is at work. There is no proof that he is drunk all day. The things spewed on here are just slander sometimes.
First off the 021st district coppers are lazy do nothings. Secondly watch out when you ask for an assist from tehm because they will tell the garbage you are trying to arrest to call OPS if there is a problem. As far as some kinda lame incident team in 009, doesn't lame and the 009th district go hand in hand? As far as the 008th district goes, it is about time that the district got divided up. I tell you what though, I am sure that if the 021st district thing is true, that 021 will be on the west end, and you will have the same type of police response if any at all from the 021st district personnel.
I was at the same class this week & heard the same song & dance about moving the light duty/conv. duty officers into districts. They cannot replace an Officer that bid for that position (desk, review, etc), and rightly so. What really blows is for the Officer who may have 25 years on the street & is burnt out and is looking to work inside. If there are no bid openings, he may be filling in for review, etc. until an opening is posted. This Officer will be bounced back to the street because some medical abuser has a bullshit doctors note that they can't work full-duty and they will take that job from an Officer who has paid his dues. This is just another example of the Department coddling these medical abusers & the worker who may go on the medical only if absolutely necessary, gets screwed once again. The Department knows who the medical abusers are and should screw with them every chance they get, by sending them for physicals, call them in to the medical section for evaluations, etc. If this is their plan, hopefully they will have the stones to send a medical abuser who lives in 016 to 004, another from 022 to 024. The Department should be able to do this contractually, because if you're light duty, they can send you to call-back, ERPS or wherever. If you're in a light-duty status, they should be able to move the Officers where they want. Make their commute as miserable as possible, if that's the only recourse. Of course I know there are many Officers on light-duty due to a heart attack or recent surgery that are 100% legit. But I also know that for every legit Officer on the medical or light-duty, there are probably 4 that are abusing it.
That is all.
Have a Good Day, Back Each Other Up & BE SAFE!!
021 will not close.
Not only does the Chancellor of University of Chicago have a direct line to Daley, lets not forget about all the money/clout in Chinatown.
21 wont close up. Maybe 13 or 2 before then. there is too much politics in 21.
To: 1/11/2007 01:48:59 AM
I don't work in 008 but boy you hit it on the head. When I first came on hardly a week went by when me and my fellow Officers were chewed out but some half drunk, mostly Irish, Boss at roll call for some reason or another. When it was over they went back to their Office and that was it. Those Officers in 008 who were offended should grow a pair. By putting it on the blog you kept the situation going and making the whole 8th dist look bad.
Since it took sooooo long for the Sergeant results to come out...... I have no faith whatsoever in the Department. I know the list would be somewhat fixed... but how many months has it been now? This city is a joke. I have NO chance, I have no juice. However, an Alderwoman said that her collogues are hoes for money.....I might have to tap into my communion money, you know what I mean?
From an earlier post, worth repeating.
There were 100 spots approved by the city council for the last Sgts class. They only used 50 right off the bat. the other 50 will be appointed after this class leaves. There will be no new fax msg for merit because the dept will use the names of those submitted for merit last time. Think of it as a class of 100 just split into 2 groups.
**********AMBER ALERT**************
PLEASE HELP !!!!
Missing - Marked police cars in the 008th District from Central Ave to Harlem. From I-55 to 65th Street. Haven’t seen any police cars patrolling the area since the mid-1980's
1/11/2007 01:55:45 AM
226 comment for 3 or 4 officers don't think so.. But your right nothing will change and 3rd watch wach out.
What is ironic about this 009 District 3rd watch “lame semi-incident team” is that most of the officers on it are the same ones who would spend all their time sitting at Tulsa looking at porn on the computers, watching ballgames on the TV, and cutting down the bosses. Who said you have to be the working police to get the perks on this job? Nothing but a popularity contest!
Since the scandal at SOS has died down I guess 009 decided that they were going to plant the seeds of another one.
Everyone knows that it is impossible to get up on tact in 009 without a phone call... impossible. So, what's wrong with giving the lowly working police on the beat cars without clout a chance to work plain clothes? There are some hard working p/o's that would never have had the opportunity otherwise. They should not be using the rapid cars though, that just isn't fair to the beat cars and is creating a hellish atmoshpere on the watch.
Bring back Matula to 009!!!! This new guy is ruining everything. The watch is up for grabs. Everyone hates everyone. Creating the "b" team was the worst thing that this new guy could've done.
Matula would have never let that happen. You are trully missed JM.
It is Alternate Response, 311 is City Services and not part of the police department, Call back is one desk out of 44 at the ARS.
its alot more than 4-5 ofcs posting about the problems in 008. these problems are well known and verifible. Scott is a drunk Carmie is useless ass kisser and the D/c has lost his mind but not his hunger. as for barrett always a due nothing who latched on to carroll like a leech and happy being a ghost. I wonder if him not working while the commander was on the medical but still being paid is verifible
What problems on the 3rd watch? As far as I know the only problem was one incident of coming in to check off at 10 after.
TO ALL THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE TEST RESULTS.
THEY ARE BEING MAILED OUT TODAY.
EXPECT THE 1st CLASS OFF THIS NEW LIST SOMETIME IN JUNE
I work in 008 and have yet to hear of anything happening today. Hopefully someone is just attempting to being funny by starting such crazy rumors. As for the officer that thinks only a couple people are writing on here from 8, I know that there are at least 20 that have made comments. It is not just the same ones each times. You may be happy, and I am happy...but there are many that are not. And not all of them have been dumped from tac, a unit or a watch either. I do agree that not much good is going to come out of this mess. At least I am not on 3rd watch! I pity them if the DC sticks around...he holds a grudge and will not forgive or forget.
A major fact finding mission is also going on at H.Q. They are looking at all units that have more Sgts. than are needed and looking to place them in districts that are short!
I was truley amazed at the lack of concern that the newly appointed 36 year old 018th district Commander had for 2 Officers that had just been shot at by a G/D in the 900 block of north Cleveland. He never once asked how the Officer's were and showed no interest in their well being. He was "upset that this incident is going to look bad". The street deputy Lopez could not have been nicer but Commander Steve "Georgeass" showed his true colors. Talk about killing morale. I know the 018th District is a fluff place to be and didn't expect him to offer a shoulder to cry on. But "what a prick this guy was". You know being on the fast-track Commander doesn't give you the right to look down upon the men and women that work for you. I am glad this incident occurred because now we know what we are dealing with. Another political hack...
Off topic -- Good arrest in 006 last night. Job well done
Dear Englewoood Ranger:
I need some advice. I know how to be the dog-ass police. The other day my partner and myself went to a domestic and when I told the big Black man tht he would have to leave his house, he looked at me and told me, "who's going to make me, I ain't going anywhere, tell the bitch to leave." Well, my partner and I did the right, my partner and I made like we did not hear him and we left the house.
Another unit got called back there about an hour later and locked him up. Whew, so glad it wasn't us - we were down on a personnel.
Then we were driving down 63rd Street and 3 Mexican gang bangers walked in front of our police car. They began flashing gang signs at us and laughing at us. We did the right thing. My partner was driving but kept his head down and quickly picked up the DIBS report and made like he was looking at it. I kept my head down and talked on my cell phone. Whew, they walked by and we continued on to 7-11 to meet with other P.O's and drink coffee and bitch about the 008th District.
I know we did the right thing in both these cases, because my Commander is a mean man and I won't work for him.
My question to you guys in 007 is, can you think of some new stuff I can say to my Commander on the Blog site. Everything we're saying is getting old.
I will not allow anyone to yell at me -- my heroes from my childhood wouldn't allow it, the Ninja Turtles and the Power Rangers, so - neither will I. Who does that Commander think he is yelling at me. Why, I went away to College, doesn't he know that.
Well, I have to down load some more songs to my Ipod, then grab something from Starbuck's on my way to St. Xavier. I just started a Master's there that the City is paying for. You know my W/C on afternoons won't carry me working so I can go to school on company time, he said that he will do whatever he can, as far as changing my day's off and starting times to help me out - but he won't carry me working for the whole night. What a pimp, you would'nt believe the horrid working conditions here in 008.
Anyway, just let me know what other mean spirited things I can say to my Commander anonymously.
Thanks. You guys in 007 are the best.
Signed
An 008th District bad-ass cop with 3 years on the job.
"...You three or four disgruntled officers - keep up the negative and trashy posts and find the inspectors visiting your check-offs and roll calls..."
Thanks Lt, but everyone knows you like to call the inspectors to 008 on a regular basis anyway.
As for the "3 or 4 officers", you'd probably have to multiply those numbers by at least ten. That would explain the scores of blue shirts who have filled out par forms trying to bail out of 008.
02:12:17 quit crying! if you would leave tulsa every once in a while you would know it's winter meaning it's slow. the w/c is just boosting his numbers. answer an extra job or 2 and code them from tulsa like you always do. you big do nuthin.
This has nothtng to do with Carroll or his Clique. No matter who was the Commander of 008, even a prince like John Farrell, 008 would still have major problems. Eventually sonething has to be done about 008, and Cline, Molloy and the rest of the big brass know it, though they won't say anything publicly. The district is too big and too busy. Things were OK twenty years ago when the place wasn't so busy, but now things are barely under control. Also some of the politicians on the west end such as Zalewski are pushing for a solution. You will see a new district on the west end of 008 eventually. Question is will they close an existing district or two or create the 26th District? Closing districts or changing boundaries is a big political issue that neither the mayor nor the superintendent want to deal with. If a district is going to be closed or merged, be it 021, 013,or whetever, the time to do it would be right after the mayoral election. This would cause the least political fallout, and give the politicians and department leadership the most time for damage control. Also if rumors of Cline's leaving are true, the next superintendent can put the decision on Cline. You are right SCC, a new district on the west end of 008 is at least two years away, and possibly longer given the city's history of cost overruns, non payment of bills, etc. But something needs to be done out there and soon. Lets see what happens after the election.
Carroll is not a bad guy, but he is in over his head and the pressure is getting to him.
Hey way to go 022 Tact, I went to eat with my wife at the Breakfast Club on 111th and Pulaski around 1200pm. I dropped her off at the door and parked the car. At the sametime about (8)fat overweight tact guys are coming out. Upon returning my wife tells me she had to walk through the gauntlet of tacts guys leering at her then turning around to stare at her ass as she walks by. She says the guys were all saying Hi to her like a bunch of pigs.
No wonder people hate the police and nobody gets locked up in 022. A bunch of fat head dawg coppers with fat ugly hillbilly wives at home. Get a life, loose some weight, stop eating the 3000 calorie skillets and try a salad. You might even get laid, all be it by your fat wives. I even over heard one of the cops ask one of the guys on his team if he wanted information on a vehicle? The dawg azz copper replies. Nope! To which they all started laughing. What a bunch of poaches. Learn how to conduct yourselves in public. Believe it or not people (not in the ghetto) look up to us, give them a reason to!
Signed a Gang Sgt.
RUMORS. OUT LOUD,
ON FRIDAY I WILL STILL HAVE NO POLITCIAL CLOUT BUT I WILL STILL BE LIVING IN GODS COUNTRY (EDISON PARK) AND SEISER WILL STILL RUN IT, SEISER FOR MAYOR OF CHICAGO,
Wassamatta with these 8th Dist. 3rd watch people. They ought to know things could get worse fast.
Lt. Gibbons as Watch Commander or District Commander!
Need I say more?
To: 1/11/2007 12:23:40 AM
Your choice of words and phrases make you look stupid. Not all are hiding, some are.
Better to staff admin and desk spots with Light duty/cd than to have full duty people in those spots.
hey dumbass gang sgt there wasnt even 8 guys working this morning in 022 tact. whats the matter you didnt have the stones to confront the people who treated your wife this way and find out who they were. Gang sgt my ass you are a coward and a sissy. maybe your wife just wants a real man not a coward
Regarding a previous post reprinted below....
I was truley amazed at the lack of concern that the newly appointed 36 year old 018th district Commander had for 2 Officers that had just been shot at by a G/D in the 900 block of north Cleveland. He never once asked how the Officer's were and showed no interest in their well being. He was "upset that this incident is going to look bad". The street deputy Lopez could not have been nicer but Commander Steve "Georgeass" showed his true colors. Talk about killing morale. I know the 018th District is a fluff place to be and didn't expect him to offer a shoulder to cry on. But "what a prick this guy was". You know being on the fast-track Commander doesn't give you the right to look down upon the men and women that work for you. I am glad this incident occurred because now we know what we are dealing with. Another political hack...
1/11/2007 01:50:05 PM
"I" was truely amazed by the case report that YOU probably filed on the incident.
A classic case of too much college and not enough High School or Police Academy training.
IF you're convinced that 018 is such a fluff place to work, then transfer out, hero!
Two wrongs never made a right!
I can't believe you cry baby MF's who are now on the CPD . You crazy bastards are making almost $75 G's as a fuckin' patrol officer why are you beefin' about everything in every Dist. You are all a bunch of do nutin' MF's All of you shut up and do "YOUR" job and maybe just maybe things would be a little better.
BREAKDOWN OF 008: Years ago, it used to be a hiding spot for white cops who didn't want to work. Lay low, do nothing. Demographics changed, now you gotta work in EVERY District now, some more than others, but even in 008, 016 and 022, there is some honest to God go lock somebody up Policework to do. And the dogasses in those Districts haven't awakened to their new reality. NO PLACE TO HIDE OUT NOW IN THE NEW CHICAGO.
GET WITH THE PROGRAM,OR QUIT!
Hey Gang Sgt at 4:34 on 11Jan07...Go Fuck yourself, if you were so offended then maybe you should of had balls and open up your mouth...Talk about fat, look who's talking, you and your wife are pigs, we know you weren't having salad...
To: Back each other up and have a good day
How do you know so much. stfu
To 309, re closing districts. Your out of your mind if you think that they are going to close 21. Supts. have wanted to do this for 40 plus year. The U of C won't tolerate it. They carry the weight and clout and are a big behind the scene mover for the candidate Obama for president. They impact politics at all levels regardless of what political party is in office.
**********AMBER ALERT**************
PLEASE HELP !!!!
Missing - Marked police cars in the 008th District from Central Ave to Harlem. From I-55 to 65th Street. Haven’t seen any police cars patrolling the area since the mid-1980's
I agree I never see them either. i guess HQ figures since alot of police live here they can do their own patrolling.....but it sounds like the 008 Dist boss will roll-up his seleves and want to fight you if you brought in an arrrest off duty. Maybe I can buy the Tact Lt. a drink or send him a bottle to get some police service on 811's beat? Anyone have suggestions or maybe I can play bean bigs in in Canareyville South AKA: Mt Greenwood with the D.C.?
Westcide...u r SO right! I am going to shut my mouth right now!
Anonymous said...
I can tell you for a fact that a Dist in Area 3 had to dump a few house mouses. All the house mouses are still being taken care of by the D/C. This department will never change.
1/11/2007 08:20:45 AM
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wasnt that a Lt. test Q???
Anonymous said...
RUMORS. OUT LOUD,
ON FRIDAY I WILL STILL HAVE NO POLITCIAL CLOUT BUT I WILL STILL BE LIVING IN GODS COUNTRY (EDISON PARK)
Edison park sux!!! Most over priced hood in Chicago. Are you one of those greedy cocksuckers that wants $400,000 for a bvllsh!t 900 sq ft ranch with a falling down 1 car garage?
You greedy bitches are killing this dept.
Here's a little something I learned on this job. No matter how big off a jagoff your boss is, there is always a bigger jagoff boss who can replace him and out-do him.
Hey Dean if you didn't like us looking at your wife you should have said something! Grow a pair of balls pussy!!
1046
Park cars are on the Park District's payroll, they are suppose to be in the parks that's what the park district is paying for. Yes you can pull a 05 unit in an emergency but they are not to take calls unless on park property. It's notoriously a cushy car
and that will never change.
Peace to all of you.
Squad
I must say that Phil Cline is a totally decent fellow. It must be fun to be his friend. Last night I dreamed we went on a fishing trip together. I have an autographed picture of him on my bedroom wall next to Pat Sajak.
Maybe Pat Sajak, Phil and me can go fly fishing in Montana soon. I must say that Pat Sajak is a totally decent fellow.
I must say that the Chicago police force is my favorite.
Maybe Pat can get Phil and me as contestants on "Wheel of Fortune". That would be so cool I must say.
TO 1/11/07 7:32:52pm
Try sending some of your "malcontents" or "malingers" to 019. Im sure they'll find a car/home there!!
There's several hospitals there they can watch "Bridge over the River Kwai".......................
Anonymous said...
hey dumbass gang sgt there wasnt even 8 guys working this morning in 022 tact. whats the matter you didnt have the stones to confront the people who treated your wife this way and find out who they were. Gang sgt my ass you are a coward and a sissy. maybe your wife just wants a real man not a coward
1/11/2007 06:46:42 PM
so its true you fat asses were there feeding your puss guts
10 HOUR DAYS WILLL RETURN IF WE PUSH HARD ENOUGH FOR IT.
0732
Years ago the 008 was white.
Remember when we didn't have gangbangers on every corner? Graffiti on our garages? Only 2 currency exchanges? No shootings? It was the talk of the area of someone got murdered? 5 times as many bars, stores and businesses? No one shouting rock and blow? Someone's car broke down and someone else stopped and helped? Give a hand to the old women carrying their bags of groceries up the stairs? Grass grew in front yards and people swept the curbs in front of their houses? When we did see police patroling and waved or ran in some cases because there is nothing new about police brutality.
Marquette park had hundreds of cars every night with hundreds of teens and adults hanging together without incident? You could walk home at 2am in the morning without fear of getting "jumped on". When it wasn't illegal to wash your car in front of your house (cuz who wants a filthy car in front of their property). When kids could come out of school doing nothing but run on a few lawns and occasional scandalous fist fight with 2 boys? When no one got killed over gymshoes? When half the kids wore $3 dollar Zayre shoes and that was ok? When if you got tired walking you could sit on someone's porch for a rest or drink out of their hose? There was no loud booming cars parked in front of your house because people had to sleep for work? Respecting your neighbors? Does anyone recall the old 008 district? This comment is in no way shape or form meant to be racist or ignorant just an observation. For those of you who are going to attack me on it. Please answer me this. Englewood had some of the most beautiful houses ever built with a grassy boulevard running through it. What happened? Why did the rules we have as white people so offensive? Did you think living in a peaceful, clean, respectable neighborhood was free??? There would be no price to pay? Like following rules of respect for person, property, neighbors? We are now talking about dividing the 008!
Thank God for the dogs of old who used to patrol us growing up. Put the fear of God in us not to break the rules. Nary a parent ever sued.
I used to work in the 009th District.... It was cool to go to Tulsa until the L.A.P.A. members started to he their unofficial meetings there. They totally ruined the place. If the inspectors need an easy mover... They should try TULSA, but then again you would be writing up some of the most politically connected people in this department.
Signed,
JM
Hey 7;58, blow me! I found out when I walked in and the fat azzes had left the restraunt.
Believe me fat slow white guys dont scare me.
To 11:30:02 PM
You are absolutely right and I couldn't agree with you more. 008 used to be a nice place to live and everything you said about it is correct. What happened to the good old days when people respected each other and their property.
Because 008 has changed so much, I will be moving out very soon.
Anonymous said...
I was truley amazed at the lack of concern that the newly appointed 36 year old 018th district Commander had for 2 Officers that had just been shot at by a G/D in the 900 block of north Cleveland. He never once asked how the Officer's were and showed no interest in their well being. He was "upset that this incident is going to look bad". The street deputy Lopez could not have been nicer but Commander Steve "Georgeass" showed his true colors. Talk about killing morale. I know the 018th District is a fluff place to be and didn't expect him to offer a shoulder to cry on. But "what a prick this guy was". You know being on the fast-track Commander doesn't give you the right to look down upon the men and women that work for you. I am glad this incident occurred because now we know what we are dealing with. Another political hack...
1/11/2007 01:50:05 PM
Im glad the coppers are ok! I've worked all over, and 018 isn't all fluff, its a strange little place...usually quite slow, but when something does happen, its bona fide and newsworthy. Definately NOT a busy district, but its not uncommon for a bona fide armed bank robbery or something big to kick off. The place is crawling with bosses (best food around)...Plus, the row houses over there are politically connected in a major way...unfortunate situation. But, hey, 18 is a GREAT place to be...kinda surprised to hear that they have a shakey dist. commander...I know that Lopez is one hell of a great boss, but don't know anything about Georgas...
To 1/11/2007 @ 8:29AM
Your absolutely right when you say that Lt. C.E. of the 8th District is a nitwit / political hack. But at least he's not as vindictive as that female Lt. in 008 on Days. I'm not going to give her initials because they are constantly changing. She is better known as the Lt. who single handedly destroy the School Unit and as a result of her actions, the Unit was disbanded. Her Clout, Harvey R., promised her a gold star. But he went and retired. Now she is nothing but a vindictive b!!ch...
You can say what you want about the Tact Lt. -- but at least he would try to help you out of a jam.
The other two Lts mentioned here are useless pieces of crap...
Signed
A P.O. in 008 who has a over 15 yrs on the job, who has worked busy districts and tact teams, and is totally embarrassed by the crybabies he has to work with here in 008.
P.S. Cmdr. J.C. - you sincerely want the best for your troops and for the Dept. -- don't let these useless crybabies get to you.
Here is TRUTH:
FOP Negotiating team will NOT NEGOTIATE, but give to arbitrator AGAIN!
What are the qualifications for the Negotiating Team? Blow FOP Prez?
Take a look at the list! What a bunch of Mark $'s Donahue ass kissers! They get paid extra for that committee and excused from duty!
Has the FOP even asked what working PO's want in the next contract?
******** N O ***************
HEY, 1/11/2007 11:34:32 PM, WHAT'S THE MATTER? U PISSED BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE EMERALD SOCIETY AT TULSA ANYMORE?
YOUR WARM BEER DRINKING, SMALL DICK HAVING, UGLY BAR WHORE GIRLFRIEND HAVING ASS IS STILL WELCOME THERE!
1/11/2007 07:06:51 PM
Gimme a break. 018 is bullshit and everyone knows it. Wannna be a pretty boy? Whatever, I don't give a fuck; but don't get on here and act like it's legit. Enjoy the party life and the hair gel, but you ain't the police. And if you were at one time, you ain't anymore.
First off the 021st district coppers are lazy do nothings.
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Most of the coppers on the watches are dogasses. They have quality guys up in tact/gangs/housing however.
MICHAEL ALANIZ FROM 009TH DISTRICT DESERVES TO BE ON A TAC TEAM HE IS THE REAL POLICE.
0732
Years ago the 008 was white.
Remember when we didn't have gangbangers on every corner? Graffiti on our garages? Only 2 currency exchanges? No shootings? It was the talk of the area of someone got murdered? 5 times as many bars, stores and businesses? No one shouting rock and blow? Someone's car broke down and someone else stopped and helped? Give a hand to the old women carrying their bags of groceries up the stairs? Grass grew in front yards and people swept the curbs in front of their houses? When we did see police patroling and waved or ran in some cases because there is nothing new about police brutality.
Marquette park had hundreds of cars every night with hundreds of teens and adults hanging together without incident? You could walk home at 2am in the morning without fear of getting "jumped on". When it wasn't illegal to wash your car in front of your house (cuz who wants a filthy car in front of their property). When kids could come out of school doing nothing but run on a few lawns and occasional scandalous fist fight with 2 boys? When no one got killed over gymshoes? When half the kids wore $3 dollar Zayre shoes and that was ok? When if you got tired walking you could sit on someone's porch for a rest or drink out of their hose? There was no loud booming cars parked in front of your house because people had to sleep for work? Respecting your neighbors? Does anyone recall the old 008 district? This comment is in no way shape or form meant to be racist or ignorant just an observation. For those of you who are going to attack me on it. Please answer me this. Englewood had some of the most beautiful houses ever built with a grassy boulevard running through it. What happened? Why did the rules we have as white people so offensive? Did you think living in a peaceful, clean, respectable neighborhood was free??? There would be no price to pay? Like following rules of respect for person, property, neighbors? We are now talking about dividing the 008!
Thank God for the dogs of old who used to patrol us growing up. Put the fear of God in us not to break the rules. Nary a parent ever sued.
1/11/2007 11:30:02 PM
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gee, i wonder why the 008th dist changed can u say cuz of leroy and julio
Whoever is writing that stuff aabout the 18th district commander obviously never worked for him. He is a stand up guy who will fight for working policmen and always had his officers well being as his first priority. give the guy a chance.
The Commander of 018 will back you up. I came on the job with him. If you are connected and in the right, Little Stevie will back you up (if there is some political capital in it for him). Eat well Stevie, eat well.
To08:12:47P.M.
From 309
If you were to re read my post you would know that I never said they would close 021, what I said was that there are several districts that could be closed or they could create a brand new district. I am well aware of the clout that the U of C has. And no I am not out of my mind.
1/12/2007 01:15:41 AM
Are you talking about Trini?
to the 022 tac team.. you useless, lazy, wannabee coppers! most of you live in the neighborhood, but you do nothing to prevent the bad element from riding around in their pimped up cars and loud music. stop dude around 115th pulaski apartments, you know how much shit is in there, coming and going? i believe the area 2 gun team did a search warr. there a while back, couple guns, ect.. dude was from 007. i don't mean to knock the tac guys, but be the police! no, i don't work there, thx 2 the beh. alert program, i can't do shit. PROTECT YOUR OWN, OR IT WILL TURN INTO 008! sorry bout the 1st sentence, but, PROVE US WRONG.
009th district first watch..the best
just ask em
is there a sgt in charge of the newly formed 009th district 3rd watch incident team or do the watch sgts cover?
I just read about someone standing up for the 018th District Commander. PLEASE give us a break. He was the first to jump on the bandwagon to go home early as a P.O. and SGT. Now he has someone to impress. His ego. This guy has started off on the wrong foot. Nobody on this job should talk down to a Capt. such as Leo Crotty. He is an old school boss that knows what he is doing. The Commander belittled him like he is a child. That's B.S. All three Captains clearly don't like this guys behavior. This is a district where some of the lower ranked have more whack than the higher rank. Watch him bury himself.
Just because you got a little brass doesn't mean u have a license to be a jag off. I agree with the previous poster here, this guy is just trying to make a name for himself at the expense of anyone in his way. I hope this little 35 year old jag off has a fun career. Give him time and just watch. Even his boy Chris Kennedy will stop handing out with him.
If u guys in 008 don't like your Commander, wait til u find out more about our guy. He's only been here two weeks and he's this bad.
HE LISTENS IN ON THE GUYS TALKING BEFORE ROLE CALL LIKE A LITTLE FAIRY. He ordered the Captain to scold a 3rd watch guy for talkig shit about him before roll call cuz he didn't have the balls to do it himself.
WOW! a boss yelling at his employees for not following the rules!!! unheard of!!! you youngsters needed to work a little while in the private sector where your job is not so secure...man up...this is the best "job" you can ever have, ask any laid off tradesman
Question! is Commander Roy related to the news reporter Roy, He looks just like him.
Anonymous said...
Whoever is writing that stuff aabout the 18th district commander obviously never worked for him. He is a stand up guy who will fight for working policmen and always had his officers well being as his first priority. give the guy a chance.
How long has he been there? A couple weeks? Hard to believe he has an impact one way or the other yet, at least that could be felt at the patrol level by a lowly po....
What the hell is TULSA?
in regards to the 018 DC. he has been listening in on the roll call room,because he thinks he is being disrespected. also last week he called a po to come back to the station because his personal car was over the parking lines. if these issues are his main concern,G#D help us in 018
gee, i wonder why the 008th dist changed can u say cuz of leroy and julio
1/12/2007 02:15:39 AM
Never a more honest statement your 100% Right!!
Your absolutely right when you say that Lt. C.E. of the 8th District is a nitwit / political hack. But at least he's not as vindictive as that female Lt. in 008 on Days. I'm not going to give her initials because they are constantly changing. She is better known as the Lt. who single handedly destroy the School Unit and as a result of her actions, the Unit was disbanded. Her Clout, Harvey R., promised her a gold star. But he went and retired. Now she is nothing but a vindictive >>>> Let me educate you about LT CE he was probably one of the best street coppers ever bar none! He works sorry college girls he is the real deal!
Whoever was talking shit about working in a "slow"district like 018 should bid in and try it. There isn't much violent crime(homicides, shootings)anymore with the green getting smaller and smaller but it does have a ton of robberies, purse snatches, burglaries, auto thefts, pick pockets etc. to keep you busy. It is alot more challenging to work a robbery, burglary pattern or pick pocket crew than it is to make a dope pinch........
IF YOU PEOPLE THINK 008 AND 009 ARE F----- UP U SHOULD SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN 018.US TACT GUYS AND GIRLS GET NO CREDIT CAUSE WE HAVE TO LOCK UP BUST OUT PISS BUMS FOR OUR IDIOT ASS---- LT. HE HASN'T A CLUE ON HOW TO SUPERVISE AND OR LEAD.THIS IS THE REASON FOR THE SHIT ARREST.HIS RIGHT HAND MAN-A SGT.HASN'T A CLUE EITHER.HE IS AT WORK 24 HOURS A DAY TRYING TO DO THE IDIOT LT. JOB BUT HE MAY IN FACT BE EVEN DUMBER THEN THE IDIOT LT. IF ANY ONE NEEDS TO BE DUMPED IT IS THE INCOMPETANT LT. HE IS NEVER EVER HERE AND WHEN HE IS HE IS WORKING ON HIS REAL JOB REAL ESTATE.WHEN HE IS HERE AT HIS PART TIME JOB,HE IS RUNNING AROUND WITH HIS BALD HEAD SUCKING UP TO THE BOSSES.HE IS ONE OF THE DUMBEST PEOPLE WE HAVE EVER SEEN.HAS NO CLUE ABOUT POLICE WORK WHAT SO EVER AND THAT IS WHY WE NEVER DO SEARCH WARRANTS OR REAL POLICE WORK BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE NOT A CLUE ON HOW TO SUPERVISE US OR HELP US OR BACK US UP FOR THAT MATTER.BETWEEN HIM AND HIS IDIOT SGTS.ALL WE CAN DO IS LOCK UP PISS BUMS.THE NEW D/C BETTER LOOK INTO THIS OFFICE AND SEE FOR HIMSELF HOW STUPID THEY REALLY ARE
1/12/2007 02:56:37 PM
Who said anything about dope pinches? There are plenty of slow district that people work in. I don't give a fuck. We all have reasons for doing what we do. Anytime I've talked to coppers from 001 or 019 or 021, etc, they all just say where they work and that's the end of it. But you meet someone from 018 and your supposed to feel grateful that they granted you an audience. Usually you get told they work project BT (1823 or whatever it is). That BT must use a Big Bend Bus with a Bt tag on top. 50 coppers working one BT trying to get some credibility. I can't go on any further, the whole topice of 018 is so boring. Have fun posing and keep your yap shut when talking to other police. No one cares. Make sure you get your eyebrows waxed before sitting in the Viagra Triangle posing tonight.
Anonymous said...
Your absolutely right when you say that Lt. C.E. of the 8th District is a nitwit / political hack. But at least he's not as vindictive as that female Lt. in 008 on Days. I'm not going to give her initials because they are constantly changing. She is better known as the Lt. who single handedly destroy the School Unit and as a result of her actions, the Unit was disbanded. Her Clout, Harvey R., promised her a gold star. But he went and retired. Now she is nothing but a vindictive >>>> Let me educate you about LT CE he was probably one of the best street coppers ever bar none! He works sorry college girls he is the real deal!
1/12/2007 12:59:52
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C.E is the real deal and the best boss in 008 right now. C.E. we love you you are the real police's police! 008 tact
Question! is Commander Roy related to the news reporter Roy, He looks just like him.
1/12/2007 11:04:00 AM
They're brothers.
To the Racist white officers from 009 why was Tulsa ok before?was it because only whitey was there?and if 2 hispanics go there now it's a LAPA HDO camp? your type of Ignorance filled with racial undertones is what keeps this dept divided and the clout babies happy, grow up Loser.B team rocks!
To the 10:41:39 am post. How do you know it's whitey
Mark don't you have abything better to do... Move on...
Big 018th dist tact guy 6:24:50 pm,
So what you are saying is you would have to be supervised to do “real” police work, you cannot do it on your own? Is it possible that if you knew how to do real police work you would not have to have your Sgt or Lt. hold your hand and show you how it is done? You are nothing more than a typical city worker blaming everyone else for your laziness and incompetence.
I just read about someone standing up for the 018th District Commander. PLEASE give us a break. He was the first to jump on the bandwagon to go home early as a P.O. and SGT. Now he has someone to impress. His ego. This guy has started off on the wrong foot. Nobody on this job should talk down to a Capt. such as Leo Crotty. He is an old school boss that knows what he is doing. The Commander belittled him like he is a child. That's B.S. All three Captains clearly don't like this guys behavior. This is a district where some of the lower ranked have more whack than the higher rank. Watch him bury himself.
Just because you got a little brass doesn't mean u have a license to be a jag off. I agree with the previous poster here, this guy is just trying to make a name for himself at the expense of anyone in his way. I hope this little 35 year old jag off has a fun career. Give him time and just watch. Even his boy Chris Kennedy will stop handing out with him.
If u guys in 008 don't like your Commander, wait til u find out more about our guy. He's only been here two weeks and he's this bad.
HE LISTENS IN ON THE GUYS TALKING BEFORE ROLE CALL LIKE A LITTLE FAIRY. He ordered the Captain to scold a 3rd watch guy for talkig shit about him before roll call cuz he didn't have the balls to do it himself.
1/12/2007 10:41:57 AM
This post amused me!!! The person who wrote this is obviously a moron.. You are saying that a commander had enough balls to talk down to a captain, but not a po?? AND you are a guy or gal that knows how to handle things yet you are talking anonymously on this blog?? Sounds to me that thier are some changes happening there, but didnt you expect that.. Were you not smart enough to see the writing on the wall when the old commander was moved. Obviously something was not running right.
TO THE DISGRUNTLED WEASEL TALKING SHIT ABOUT THE 018TH DISTRICT TACT LT. AND HIS SGT'S I HAVE THIS TO SAY....IF YOU SPENT LESS TIME WORRYING ABOUT WHAT YOUR SUPERVISORS WERE DOING AND MORE TIME ARRESTING PISS BUMS, WHO ACTUALLY ARE THE REASON FOR NARCOTICS SALES,BURGLARIES,BURGLARIES TO AUTOS,OFF DUTY HARASSMENT OF PO'S FROM 018 AND OTHER FELLOW DISTRICTS. NOT ONLY ARE YOU AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS IN BLUE, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT EVEN YOUR FAMILY THINKS YOUR THE TRUE IDIOT.IF YOUR SO UPSET ABOUT NOT DOING SEARCH WARRANTS ASK THE GANG TEAMS WE'D BE GLAD TO TAKE YOU ALONG AND BREAK YOUR CHERRY. I KNOW IN YOUR FEEBLE MIND YOUR GONNA SAY I'M A KISS ASS, BUT THATS TO BE EXPECTED FROM THE TYPICAL 018TH DISTRICT I GOT MY ASSIGNMENT BECAUSE OF FELATIO JUICE BABY.
In response to 1/14/2007 03:54:01am comment. It is you that are obviously a moron. The reason Steve Georgas was promoted to commander is called CLOUT!!!!! Plain and simple. If you think otherwise you are about as stupid as an alderman taking a pribe from the G. Just look at his friends, all in high places. The Machine continues........
Anonymous said...
Whoever was talking shit about working in a "slow"district like 018 should bid in and try it. There isn't much violent crime(homicides, shootings)anymore with the green getting smaller and smaller but it does have a ton of robberies, purse snatches, burglaries, auto thefts, pick pockets etc. to keep you busy. It is alot more challenging to work a robbery, burglary pattern or pick pocket crew than it is to make a dope pinch........
1/12/2007 02:56:37 PM
Develop intel, establish surveillence, watch a guy, watch a guy, watch a guy, finally catch a guy, inventory items, hopefully get him to flip on bigger fish....am I describing a robbery pattern or dope pinch? Sounds like very similar work to me.... Only difference is that for dope, you get felony and dont have to deal with dets, who are cool, and states attorneys, who are not. I don't think anyone was slamming 18. I think most people hope to make it up there someday (I know I do!)
I take that back...I re-read some of the posting and there is some bashing of 18 here...Ill chalk it up to jealosy. Most guys say, ohh, ill never slow down, not me!! And five years later, they slow down. And wait until they can bid to....18. If you are a good copper in 3, you'll be a good copper in 18. Most guys in slower districts started out somewhere else, so they are slamming someone who did their time and moved on. They just haven't gotten fed up yet. Be glad you are up there and ignore the haters.
Anonymous said...
In response to 1/14/2007 03:54:01am comment. It is you that are obviously a moron. The reason Steve Georgas was promoted to commander is called CLOUT!!!!! Plain and simple. If you think otherwise you are about as stupid as an alderman taking a pribe from the G. Just look at his friends, all in high places. The Machine continues........
1/14/2007 08:58:15 PM
Oh thats right... We all forgot that YOU were supposed to be a commander... Why dont you get your baby blanket and crawl up next to someone who really wants to hear your crying!!!You pathetic, jealous, whiner! By the way, is it not true that all positions above Lt. are appointed? Including your captains!!!!! Before you whine, why dont you get your facts straight!
Anonymous said...
In response to 1/14/2007 03:54:01am comment. It is you that are obviously a moron. The reason Steve Georgas was promoted to commander is called CLOUT!!!!! Plain and simple. If you think otherwise you are about as stupid as an alderman taking a pribe from the G. Just look at his friends, all in high places. The Machine continues........
1/14/2007 08:58:15 PM
Oh thats right... We all forgot that YOU were supposed to be a commander... Why dont you get your baby blanket and crawl up next to someone who really wants to hear your crying!!!You pathetic, jealous, whiner! By the way, is it not true that all positions above Lt. are appointed? Including your captains!!!!! Before you whine, why dont you get your facts straight!
1/15/2007 08:54:16 AM
Yes, but if you start out as a merit sgt, then you have been clout the whole way through. If there was actually integrity to the sgt promotion, there would be no argument against ANY promotion, because all promotions would stem from a qualified Sgt pool.... unless you are really really lucky and make it straight from po...only know one who made that move, and he was deserving in my opinion....
to whomever asked: Tulsa is a crappy gas station at 39th and Ashland.
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