Towing Issue Hits the Paper
In the Sun Times (the police friendly newspaper - NOT!) the following story:
- The actions followed a Sun-Times story that reported the department is investigating a handful of police employees for suspected misuse of disabled parking signs.
- One unmarked police car was towed at 12:30 p.m. Thursday in the 100 block of West Washington and another at 12:48 p.m. Friday in the 1500 block of West Taylor, police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. Both were in "no parking anytime" zones.
- Tuesday, Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue called the memo "inappropriate," adding: "It's an attempt to relieve the officers of discretion. It's caused a lot of concern among the membership.
Grievable? We'll see. In the meantime, the comments sections are abuzz with reports of the 009th District hammering Streets and San drivers with tickets, despite Monique Bond's denials to the contrary. The Games appear to have begun.
posted by SCC at 9:24 PM
88 Comments:
I WORK A BEAT CAR AND IT GOT TOWED THIS MORNING IN FRONT OF A CHA BUILDING WITHIN 15 FEET OF A HYDRANT. I CALLED FOP AND THEY ARE LOOKING INTO FOR US.
KUDOS to the 009 District!!
Ticket all these people!!!
So I'm down at 35th & Michigan today and park on 37th, so I don't get ticketed & towed. I count no less than 7 police and civilian vehicles illegally parked. Two in a bus stop 1 on a hydrant and 4 others in other 'no parking' zones. I come back out 25 minutes later and do you suppose there are any ticket on the civilian cars???Do you suppose the squad cars are towed??? NAH... HEY DANA, WHY DON'T YOU CLEAN UP AT HOME FIRST; LEAD BY EXAMPLE, THEN START PICKING ON EVERYONE ELSE. I KNOW YOU COULD SEE OUT YOUR WINDOW BECAUSE THE WINDOW WASHERS WERE OUT THERE DOING THE WINDOWS TODAY !!!!
All im going to say is im not paying if they tow me.....
9-64-220 Parking violations--Enforcement--Prima facie responsibility designated.
(a) Whenever any vehicle is parked in violation of any provision of the traffic code prohibiting or restricting vehicular standing or parking, the person in whose name the vehicle is registered with the Secretary of State of Illinois shall be prima facie responsible for the violation and subject to the penalty therefor.
the caption under the picture in the Sun Times shows numerous unmarked city vehicles that were "justified" in parking in that particular no parking zone. If you look at the license plate(s) you can see that it/they start(s) with "759" - aren't these cars typically assigned to exempt members? what were they all doing parked there? responding to some kind of emergency that justified parking illegally? several exempt members rode on a 10-1 or something? i'd love to see the explanantion concocted by the brass regarding that photo. Oh, I forgot...we're the rank and file blueshirts...we have to take it up the ass.
I wrote to the Sun Times today in response to this article...Wow, I can not think of a reason why I did not get a reply, or why that my comments were not posted.
If you saw the Sun Times - they ran a photo of a bunch of CPD unmarked cars that were illegally parked. Thing was - they were all exempt member cars, you just had to look at the plates. Of course Monique Bond, one of the spokesmen for the CPD (Why???) said that these cars were okay, they were being closely monitored. Right! What a joke..if you are a boss, with a driver, you are okay to park anywhere - BUT if you are a working copper, well you better be ready to justify.
Then she goes on to say that this will not start anything with S & S and the CPD. Of course not, because in Monique's office, they use the handicap placards and park their cars in those spots - so they do not have to worry about finding a spot. I am supposed to let this lady tell others what the CPD will and will not do?? Should you not make certain that your own house is in order before you start saying things...? Or is it just me?
Kudos to any cop who gives a S & S driver a ticket, if it is deserved. I know if I get the chance, I will, and I hope it involves some kind of impoundment charge as well.
I can only hope to be so lucky as to find a Sun Times truck in the ghetto when I am at work....
I now hear that the city(CPD) will pick up the tab for the initial tow.
The Officer who signout for the vehilce will have to pay later or they(the city/dept) will deduct it from his check. like water bills and unpaid personal tickets....This way this little adventure into screwing the cops, will not interfer with the city's stationary cameras, which catch people blowing through the redlights and targeting the registered owners with mailed tickets.....plus if the copper don't pay in a reasonable manner of time or try some sort of delaying tactics, the department can hammer him/her with some additional bogus bullshit (cr's) and a processing fee "MO MONEY, MO MONEY" Then the greatest benefit of all, those bosses who cars are caught parking illegally, will be adjudicated differently..... you can imagine how many of those are going to be processed or followed up on
The mayor is a true visionary. I agree. Zero tolerance for illegal parking and other traffic violations. Everyone. Streets and San, newspaper trucks, politically connected construction companies, the CTA, the media, everything that moves, everytime it moves illegally. He thinks you don't have the balls to challenge him.
Streets and San can't legally make you pay for it. Actually, just to get the car out of the pound you have to have your name on the registration, so...the department will wind up paying the City, then the department would have to collect it from you. Seems like a lot of nonsense, just to get back at us for the Sun-Times article.
aken directly from the Lt. Ass. site...
On 19 January 2007 a fax message was sent to all units from First Deputy Starks regarding the towing of illegally parked Department Vehicles, both marked and un marked. It states that all vehicles must be parked legally and must be prepared to justify their actions should they be parked illegally. Under no circumstances are department vehicles to be parked in Handicapped spaces or on a fire hydrant. It goes on to state that The Department of Streets and Sanitation will notify Operations Command when they find a vehicle. The on duty ADS will be notified who will determine the status of the illegally parked department vehicle.
When a department vehicle is towed the operator will be held responsible for the citation, towing and other costs associated with the tow. In addition the operator of the vehicle may face disciplinary measures.
We at the Chicago Police Lieutenants Association would like to point out that there is no part of our contract that allows for the City of Chicago or Chicago Police Department to levy cash penalties against a Lieutenant. In addition no where in the General Orders is there mention of cash penalties for discipline. If the City of Chicago wishes to tow vehicles it owns that is fine with us and if they wish to levy a cash penalty perhaps they will need to go after the registered owner of the vehicle.
Gotta love it....
(625 ILCS 5/11‑205) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11‑205)(c) The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle may:
1. Park or stand, irrespective of the provisions of
this Chapter;
2. Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign,
but only after slowing down as may be required and necessary for safe operation;
3. Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he
does not endanger life or property;
4. Disregard regulations governing direction of
movement or turning in specified directions.
Instead of hammering S & S, working stiffs who are just following orders like you and me, stop writing parking tickets for the month of Feb. S & S were told by CPD Brass and the Mayors Office to ticket and tow squad cars. Do yo think the mayors Office cares if S & S drivers get tickets ? Don't generate any money for the city for a month and lets see what happens. We need to stick together. Don't let the city cause conflict between us, both as people and unions. Everybody got a better Contract sticking together. Don't let the City pick us apart
This is awesome, people thought I did nothing before, you should see me now. I will wait till Sundays to do my activity, which will consist of making the rounds at all the store front churches which are catered to by the city. But I'm sure that won't last too long, since I will more than likely be called into the Commanders office and told to non suit the tickets, to which I will refuse then they will play the game of fucking with my scheduled start time, giving me shitty details, maybe changing my watch or detailing me out to some God forsaken place, just some of the typical petty shit Commanders like to play. Keep making those arrest you hard chargers and watch the city keep shoving it up your ass......
Great. A war. The mayor is going to win this one....he will get revenue from coppers cars AND the tickets to city drivers. What a crock. I REFUSE TO TICKET A CITY WORKER!!! I REFUSE TO PAY TO GET MY CAR OUT. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? I am going to ticket EVERY CIVILLIAN car AT CHURCH. AT SCHOOL. AT THE DRY CLEANER. DOUBLE PARKED. STANDING. T H A T is who my war will be with. Then all thsese downtown yuppie left wing crybabys can call the mayor complaining about parking enforcement. Well, little Dick, its on! Your discretion is long gone, and now so is mine. Enjoy your re-elaction campaign. This will be like Belandecks (spelling) blizzard....only it will be a shower of parking tickts that will bring you down!! You reap what you sow, sissy!!
The FOP wont say anything! God forbid they stand up for working police.
Go find legal parking, then go to the job. It's an order follow it if you know what I mean.
check out all the lazy dog city employees that pump gas at all the fuel stations. they all park in the handicap spots. their plates are expired, no city stickers, tinted plate covers, no front plate, tinted windows. then check their dl status. you'll be amazed at what you find in addition to all the vehicle violations. not to mention the hat turned to the side and the pant leg rolled up. ahh this fine city and all its hiring.
Pound 6 is located at 701 N. Sacramento BLVD. NO truck is allowed to drive on a BLVD. 013 coppers, where are you? TVB someone, wait until the tow shows up, then write him for driving on a blvd! don't forget to make sure he has a 5 gallon bucket, a shovel, 1 cubic yard of sand, and a fire extinguisher authorized by the united states department of transportation.
What about the wagons?
Can't park trucks on residential streets.
XX71 "Squad, That's a blvd, we can't drive the truck to the job"
XX72 "Squad, we can't respond to the mental, that's a residential street"
hOW ABOUT THE 25TH dISTRICT ENFORCING ALL THE VIOLATIONS AT THE wARD YARD NEXT DOOR AT 0730HRS EVERY MORNING. 15-30 GARBAGE TRUCKS BLOCKING HANDICAP ACCESSES,ALL IN NO TOW ZONES. gET WITH IT 025 TICKET AWAY!!!!!!!!!
START WRITING EVERY SINGLE PARKING AND MOVING VIOLATOR YOU SEE, MEANING: ( STREETS & SAN VEHICLES, ALDERCREATURE'S VEHICLE, "ALL" ILLEGALLY PARKED CARS AROUND CITY HALL OR OTHER GOV'T BUILDING/FACILITY, MEDIA VEHICLE, ANY YUPPIES VEHICLE IN AND AROUND ALL THESE NEW CONDOS, USE YOUR HEAD AND MAKE THEN ALL PAY) THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, DO NOT HESITATE, SHOW NO MERCY. WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU OFFICERS (1ST AND 18TH DISTRICT,AND OTHER RELATED DISTRICTS) BE UNIFIED FOR ONCE!
10:07PM
I'm getting tired of people continuing to confuse "the law" with dept. policy.
This idiot and anyone else who thinks that somehow the municiple code trumps the dept. position that the individual officer is responsible for the towing costs if he dept vehicle gets towed/ticketed is thinking with something other than his brain. Regardless of who the vehicle is registered, those costs can be charged against the employee having control of the vehicle at the time it was ticketed/towed. AND YOU KNOW THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND CITING THE MUNI CODE WON'T HELP YOU ONE BIT.
stop writing parking tickets for the month of Feb. S & S were told by CPD Brass and the Mayors Office to ticket and tow squad cars.
NO TICKETS NO REVENUE FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY! FUCK YOU RICHIE
What a crock. I REFUSE TO TICKET A CITY WORKER!!!
Same here.... I am not going to let the city bosses/ mayor and every other daley idiot use me to start an internal war.
Dont blame a S&S guy for following orders. Park legally. And walk the rest of the way. When someone dies as a result of this....OH WELL.
I agree, no revenue for the month of february. Have a good laugh together. But dont make a war with other city workers fuck the bosses.
Don't write any tickets at all! This City will cry over lost revenue! Be a DOGASS! That is the best way to get back at this City and Dept.!
Anonymous said...
Instead of hammering S & S, working stiffs who are just following orders like you and me, stop writing parking tickets for the month of Feb. S & S were told by CPD Brass and the Mayors Office to ticket and tow squad cars. Do yo think the mayors Office cares if S & S drivers get tickets ? Don't generate any money for the city for a month and lets see what happens. We need to stick together. Don't let the city cause conflict between us, both as people and unions. Everybody got a better Contract sticking together. Don't let the City pick us apart
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Very well said! That is what they want more animosity amongst city employees-don't fall for it. Go ticket at the churches like others have said and especially those sun-times and media trucks.
Anonymous said...
Instead of hammering S & S, working stiffs who are just following orders like you and me, stop writing parking tickets for the month of Feb. S & S were told by CPD Brass and the Mayors Office to ticket and tow squad cars. Do yo think the mayors Office cares if S & S drivers get tickets ? Don't generate any money for the city for a month and lets see what happens. We need to stick together. Don't let the city cause conflict between us, both as people and unions. Everybody got a better Contract sticking together. Don't let the City pick us apart
1/25/2007 12:41:25 AM
Finally a real thought. One that makes sense! No balls on this dept. though no balls. The fireman and their union have nuts, we have none!
Here is an idea, if you are going to write tickets which I think is a great idea write the state IVC charge not the City. This means that the city does not get the profits from the ticket, the majority goes to the state. When I was in the academy they made it very clear to always write the city charge instead of the state. I asked why and I was told the above reason.
There isn't shit they can do about it. I hate to say it but I think the S&S workers are going to take it in the ass on this one. And by the way maybe the Slum Times needs to follow King Dickie in the morning and see how many lights his driver's go through for no good reason other than that he doesn't like traffic on Michiagn ave. or State st.
Fuck You Dickie it's on!
Folks, lets try not to make more work for ourselves over this.
Writing more tickets to just generates more revenue. Bad Idea.
Lets do some figuring… You Should be at work for 8.5 hours a day. The first half hour is roll call, then we have 2 15 minute personals, then we have 1 half hour lunch; then we have about 20 minutes for check off. This leaves you 6 hours and 40 minutes for police work. Lets suppose you get 12 jobs in a tour. Each job requires you to spend an additional 5 minutes each finding legal parking and then walking to the job.
Five extra minutes a job times 12 jobs = 1 HOUR of your time securing legal parking.
Now you are only doing police work for 5 hours and 40 minutes a day.
How is this a bad thing???
They do enough complaining about RAP’s now.
Tie yourself up even longer….
An 'atta boy' is in order for the 9th Dist. Good Job. Everybody, takes notes.
Divide and conqueor apparently still work just fine. Instead of Po's rallying together to address this parking ticket/towing BS's, the first thing that some will come up with, is to attack S&S employees, go after the Tribune drivers, church goers on the southside, exactly what the city wants you to do, they will open a new account at the bnk with all of that money pouring into their coffers.......SUPPOSE! no one write a parking ticket for a month, suppose the city lose revenue or at least experience a interruption of revenue for a month.....I bet you get someones attention REAL SOON....but cops will be cops, bitch and moan...then blame somebody else and then back to the same old BS...........you deserve what you get
Ok heres what I dont get....
The pound will not release a car to anyone other than the REGISTERED owner, or a person with a notorized (spelling) letter from the REGISTERED owner authorizing the person to get it out.
Furthermore I have NEVER heard of S&S letting a car out WITHOUT money upfront.
So how can a copper get the car back without being the owner or without having a notorized(spelling) letter??? Even if he is willing to pay.
That is all.
SOLUTION: IF WE ARE HELD TO THIS STANDARD, THEN APPLY IT EVERYWHERE. IN YOUR DISTRICT, HOW MANY CHURCHES / ORGANIZATIONSA ASK FOR "COURTESY PARKING." HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU SEE CARS LINED UP DOUBLE AND TRIPLE PARKED OUTSIDE SOME OF THESE PLACES. START ENFORCING AT THESE LOCATION, SEE HOW FAST THE RENT-A-REVERANDS START BITCHING, AND SEE HOW FAST YOU GET A RESPONSE FROM DOWNTOWN.....
Lets put the blame for this where it belongs, Mike Picardi the Commissioner of streets and sanitation pointed out that police cars routinely park illegally to the media to take heat off his operation. When the Mayor got insensed about it he gave Picardi the power to ticket and tow our cars and clean up the problem. This was frosting on the cake for Mike Picardi who as we all know is a police hater. Lets not forget how he fucked up EMMD after he took it over when he was the Commissioner over at fleet. Cline did'nt have the balls to take on Picardi when he was fuckin up our police fleet of vehicles, what makes us think he has the balls to take him on for towing our cars? It's time to take pens in hand and send a clear message to Mike Picardi through a snowfall of tickets on his streets and sanitation vehicles that even his snowplows will not be able to move. Remember, the pen is mightier than the sword!
What a bunch of clowns!
Trucks CAN drive on BLVDS., if it
is the main access to their destination. Also, trucks CAN
drive on residential streets,
they can't park for extended
periods unless they are conducting
business. Trucks CAN'T park
on residential streets over night.
Anyone who writes S & S, or anyone else is a fool. All you are doing is playing into City Hall's hands. What makes sense about creating more revenue for the city, and creating tension among all of us who work for the city and our unions ? NOTHING ! Stick together. DON'T WRITE ANY TICKETS.
This bullshit about the commissioner of streets and sanitation being able to tow our cars would not have happened if Terry was still Supt. Hillard fought the take over of our garages by Picardi for years and won, and he would have fought and beat Picardi on this towing issue. Lets write some tickets on those political hacks over at streets and sanitation. How about a bounty on Picardi himself?
For those not old enough to remember the "Ticket Blitz" of the yesteryear, here's how it worked.
To make a very long story very short, the City pissed us off.(Sound familiar?) So what we did was TICKET EVERYONE FOR
EVERYTHING POSSIBLE! Be sure and tell everyone ticketed that it's the Mayor's fault because he wants Ticket Revenue and tell them that no matter what he says on TV, he is behind it. It went on and on; filled up all the Traffic Courtrooms; drove the citizens mad at City Hall; pissed off all the judges; and drove old man Daley up a wall. Cars were almost constantly down on TVB's and at every Station Desk, there were Very long lines of people waiting to bond, and although the bond procedure has become much easier, your bond card is only good once.
A lot of those people had to hit the lockup. During the "Ticket Blitz" there were many drivers who got multiple citations.
It also got constant news coverage,
which again drove City Hall buggy.
just like one of our sgts said next time you have some sort of big job with the news vans etc there ticket the hell out of them if they arent parked legally
Commissioner of streets and sanitation.
4455 N. Reserve
Assistant Commissioner of streets and sanitation.
5600 N. Kolmar
Both of these assholes traverse the city everyday to get to their offices. Lets send them a message!
I have to agree with the above, STOP WRITTING TICKETS YOU IDIOTS! Then we will see who has the upper hand.
Where does the head of S&S Mike Picardi live. Find that out and then ticket and tow his vehicle if you can
What about every parking courtesy that is extended to every boss & aldercreature's freind that has a party?
All the churches?
Every festival/ block party etc?
If the Aldercreatures can tell us not to write a ticket, for special reasons......
Streets & San can't get out and change the No Parking signs so we get told "parking courtesy" because they are lazy.
The city can't get parking permit or city stickers out on time (1X a year), but they are right there to tow our cars.
Why write snow tows?
Let's just take the votes away.
But ...........
The best one ........
Isn't there an illegal bar right by the gas pumps @ North & Throop?
Don't all the Streets & San workers stop there after work for a few drinks?????
The bar is never open to anyone else & I've never seen anyone there after 6-7:00, Makes you wonder when they make the money.
Wonder how many driver's buy "lunch" there.
Lock & Load
They might know the alleys & garbage & how to campaign for the machine .........
But WE OWN the streets!!
WELL ILL GIVE 009 CREDIT THEY HAVE BALLS. WHATS UP WITH 012 THEY SCARED THEIR COMMANDER WILL SEND THEM TO PILSEN TO WORK.
ITS BAD ENUFF THEY THROW OUT THEIR CONTACT CARDS AT THE DESK. ITS SO HARD TO FIND A PO WITH COJONES. AT LEAST 012 IS NOT ON THE BOTTOM ANYMORE OF LEAST USED COMPUTERS IN THE CITY.
Those of you who keep saying,"why ticket the working stiff at S&S, they are told to tow police cars." Do you ticket every single person you see commit a traffic violation? No, you don't. Why? Because we realize we have DISCRETION!!!!! And so do they. Hammer every single one of them.
Does anyone in 001 have the balls to write parkers at 121 N. LaSalle when all the city official's drivers park and wait for them to come out?
All around City Hall and HQTRS are the places to hit and send the message.
9th district got balls
009 gearing up for Sunday churchgoers! other districts should get on board. make it like the old ticket blitz. "the mayor wants zero tolerance"
Ummm... Here's a question for Dicky and Dana. Who is going to reimburse me for putting money in the meter when I Tayolr or anyother are that is metered? Do you really think those c@#^$ at City Hall or the Ivory Tower will actually pay you back. HA!!!!
PS Who in their right mind names thier male child Dana??!!
I don't get this "don't ticket the poor S&S working stiffs" routine:
Yes, they are under orders to ticket illegally parked CPD vehicles, but are their supervisors in the tow truck cabs with them? What is stopping them from looking the other way when driving down a street that has a CPD car parked? During the end of their shift, why can't they just tell their supervisors "sorry boss I did not see any illegally parked squad cars to tow"?
It's pretty simple: Do not tow our cars and you will not be ticketed.
You want Mike Picardi the head Commissioner over at streets and sanitation home address, here it is along with the address of his chief lacky and ball washer Glenn Tatara.
Picardi, 4455 N. Reserve
Tatara, 5600 N. Kolmar
Now go get em!
All this nonsense about the poor working stiffs in S&S being portrayed as helpless victims of the great and all powerful Daley is clearly the work of trolls and empty holsters at 35th Street. They're scared to death of a Blitz. Ticket'm back into the Stone Age,son. Think all of those trucks at Trump Tower are legit. Embarrass the little man. Show people he can't even control parking.
So which is it guys! what is the best approach? I see both sides... ticket the hell out of everyone, and don't ticket at all. It'd be easier to get the plush spot ticket writers to write more as opposed to writing none. This "ticket blitz" seems like a good idea, but is it really a burden on the system or just more $$$ for the city? Writing no tickets,arrests, impounds, etc. (my present M.O.) seems like it would send the strongest message,but you'll never get all the court whores (SEAN FLYNN) to go along with this. Oh, what tactic are we to use?
To 1/25/2007 @ 1152:18AM
I remember the "ticket blitz" and from what you wrote, you weren't on the job during this time.
Must be nice to sit on a bar stool and listen to old timers talk about the "good old days" and then turn those war stories into your own personal experiences.
Your talking about something that happened 30 yrs. ago - I doubt very much if you even have 6 years on the job.
Someone with over 30 yrs. on the job isn't wasting his time posting silly shit like this on this site.
Give em' hell CPD!!! Turn the fucking tables on these asses: anytime you guys run across one of their vehicles, why don't you ticket and then maybe entertain the notion of ordering up a tow for one of them?
If they can tow you, you can tow them...it works two ways!
On the other hand, what about any suburban department vehicles that might be in city limits conducting buisness? There are times when a suburban department will have to do that, or even be in city limits on a mutual aid response....they gonna tow them too?
I can see it now: "City Streets and Sanitation Department tows emergency vehicles from staging areas"
START WRITING EVERY SINGLE PARKING AND MOVING VIOLATOR YOU SEE, MEANING: ( STREETS & SAN VEHICLES, ALDERCREATURE'S VEHICLE, "ALL" ILLEGALLY PARKED CARS AROUND CITY HALL OR OTHER GOV'T BUILDING/FACILITY, MEDIA VEHICLE, ANY YUPPIES VEHICLE IN AND AROUND ALL THESE NEW CONDOS, USE YOUR HEAD AND MAKE THEN ALL PAY) THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, DO NOT HESITATE, SHOW NO MERCY. WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU OFFICERS (1ST AND 18TH DISTRICT,AND OTHER RELATED DISTRICTS) BE UNIFIED FOR ONCE!
on the subject of aldercreatures:
A beat car in 013 had Alderman Vilma Colon's car supposedly with her son driving it a bit over a week ago, I was working and heard it on zone 3, it was real quiet after that! Anyone know what ever happened with that situation? All I know is someone called on it as a suspicious vehicle without occupants.
i absolutely agree with this post:
1/25/2007 09:31:00 PM
Just like us, these S&S tow drivers can look the other way if they see an illegally parked squad. They are to call in when they "see" one, and then the ball starts rolling. But, if they never see one, then no ball. So i say screw em. I'm in 009 and the story of the S&S guys getting ticketed is 100% true. I haven't wrote tickets in ages, but i signed out a book the other day just for the sole purpose of hammering S&S workers and church goers this sunday... where incidentally we are told to "extend parking courtesy." Ha,
not no mo!
I love 009. One of the few districts left with the old school mentality.
Wanna get S&S real good?
Cruise up and down State St. between Roosevelt and Clark...lots of S&S vehicles parked illegally there, especially in the early morning and late evening / overnight hours!
Be aware of the dock at 111 N. State st. right on Randolph...lot's of illegal parking there. It used to be Marshall Field's.
You guys in 016 and on the O'Hare Airport detail: Lot's of city vehicles traversing the area between DOA Police posts, Manhiem Rd., the upper and lower level at ORD...DOA vehicles LOVE to park right outside the Hilton Hotel between terminal 2 and 3! Get their asses, or they might open their mouths and get you before you can wink!
Get the head of every city department if you can't get their workers! Yes, write the State charge, not the city...NO REVENUE for the city that never works! No internal wars, no revenue...write the State charge!
Don't non - suit anything! If you can't write the state charge, don't write anything!
How about the guys in 012 start regularly doing aggressive patrols around the Juvenile Complex? Get the juvie Judges, the G.A.L.'s, the A.S.A.'s, Defense Attorneys, Cook County Sherriff's Deputies, DCFS Agents, Private Agency workers!
How about the idiots that go to Manny's? White Castle's, the stretch of Roosevelt Rd.?
Get everyone at Stroger Hospital Facilities, Rush Hospital, County Medical Examiner's Office, the entire IMD! I bet when these people start bitching to the brass downtown, shit will have to be re-examined at the least...cause hell with it!
I agree with the poster with the concern about time spent finding legal parking and walking to jobs...when someone gets killed - Dickie Daley will have to be liable!
Nice job to those guys in 009. F*ck the slowdown in tickets, ticket everyone, including the Sun Times drivers. Stick together. IF THEY WANT A WAR, THEY GOT ONE.
also i am proud to report that 008 has started to put the heat on streets and sans....no i will not go into details but oh yes...it has begun
once again as he has so many times in the past starks proves he is a f******* moron. another fine example of why merit promotions are wrong.
1/25/2007 10:59:26 PM
Many other construction projects with trucks that are in violation! Enforce all the laws! Check all S&S yards for proper plates, city stickers, not parking in handicapped spaces etc..
Anonymous said...
10:07PM
I'm getting tired of people continuing to confuse "the law" with dept. policy.
This idiot and anyone else who thinks that somehow the municiple code trumps the dept. position that the individual officer is responsible for the towing costs if he dept vehicle gets towed/ticketed is thinking with something other than his brain. Regardless of who the vehicle is registered, those costs can be charged against the employee having control of the vehicle at the time it was ticketed/towed. AND YOU KNOW THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND CITING THE MUNI CODE WON'T HELP YOU ONE BIT.
1/25/2007 05:58:56 AM
HEY THERE, SMARTYPANTS! It is also in the go's that you cannot be ordered to do something knowing it to be illegal. Like pay for an illegaly towed car. Which you only know is illegally towed if you...read the municipal order. Plus, the go can be challenged if it is against the law. Also, the city cannot punish you without PROCESS....you have to be spard...then you can grieve...then maybe you pay or take a day....knowing the code and the law and the go will help in contesting your punishment. YOU can just pay up. ME? I'll sue the city and the dept. The city for the illegal tow, the dept for hostile work environment and G O's (employee handbook) that is out of step with the law. Why are you so pissed at coppers trying to figure this out? I don't have all the answers, this original poster doesn't have the answers, and you don't have an answer either, so go eat some coco puffs.
Folks, lets try not to make more work for ourselves over this.
Writing more tickets to just generates more revenue. Bad Idea.
Lets do some figuring… You Should be at work for 8.5 hours a day. The first half hour is roll call, then we have 2 15 minute personals, then we have 1 half hour lunch; then we have about 20 minutes for check off. This leaves you 6 hours and 40 minutes for police work. Lets suppose you get 12 jobs in a tour. Each job requires you to spend an additional 5 minutes each finding legal parking and then walking to the job.
Five extra minutes a job times 12 jobs = 1 HOUR of your time securing legal parking.
Now you are only doing police work for 5 hours and 40 minutes a day.
How is this a bad thing???
They do enough complaining about RAP’s now.
Tie yourself up even longer….
HEY!! you forgot half an hour of foot, a special attention in the doc, a carwash, gas, a walkdown (if you are so lucky to have high rise)
OH, and cta checks aplenty
if i park on a residental street,do i need a temp. permit for that zone!!!!
OK I WORK THE ZONE AND THIS AFTERNOON I WAS LEAVING OEMC AND SAW A CITY TOW TRUCK WITH A SQUAD CAR HITCHED UP TO THE BACKS WITH THE EMERGENCY LIGHTS STILL ACTIVATED ON THE BACK .. I SAW THE BEAT NUMBER AND FOR A FACT KNOW THAT THAT CAR WAS IN SERVICE BECAUSE I JUST LEFT MY TOUR. NOW THIS BOTHERS ME AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY. IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE FIRST AND FOR MOST OFFICER SAFETY AND HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO COMFORTABLY SEND A ONE MAN UNIT TO HANDLE CITZ COMPLAINTS AND EMERGENCIES IF I HAVE TO WORRY THAT HIS SQUAD CAR WHICH MAY BE NEEDED AT ANY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND AND SOMEONE REALLY NEEDS TO ADDRESS THIS SITUATION I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT ALL DAY LONG THESE OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE INTENTIONALLY PARKING IN THE HYDRANTS AND TAKING UP THE HANDICAP SPOTS AND TOW ZONES. THEN THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING INTO DESIGNATING TWO EMERGENCY VEHICALE ONLY PARKING SPOTS EACH BLOCK BECAUSE OFFICERS DESERVE TO BE SAFE AND I DESERVE PROMPT RESPONSE BY THESE OFFICERS WHEN I NEED THEM WITHOUT WORRYING THAT THE OFFICER MAY PASS ME UP LOOKING FOR A PARKING SPOT !!!!!!!!!!!!1
Who, or better yet, where do you work that you only get 12 jobs a day to handle..?
When are the next bid postings??
Starks does not set or make policy you goofs, I guess we are lucky for that. ADS Eugene Williams signed the fax, who wrote it, I don't know.
You can thank Monique Bond and Little Richie for this new policy. The go ahead as far as I can tell came out of the Mayor's office and our little princess Monique just samctioned it.
Why don't we park all of the cars in tow zones so they will all be towed and we don't have to do shit. What can they do if I don't have $200.00 to get the fuckin car out?
Now, go to a domestic or a fuckin shooting and park on the next street for fear of being towed. Who fuckin fault is that you city hall fuckim morons!!!
"The best one ........
Isn't there an illegal bar right by the gas pumps @ North & Throop?
Don't all the Streets & San workers stop there after work for a few drinks?????
The bar is never open to anyone else & I've never seen anyone there after 6-7:00, Makes you wonder when they make the money.
Wonder how many driver's buy "lunch" there."
That bar is the "Hideout," its not illegal, and it is open late.
http://www.hideoutchicago.com/
Very nice place, lots of bands (mostly bluegrass, country, Bloodshot records type of stuff).
Its been written up as one of the best places to see music in the entire country...
Hey Dana, towing police cars have nothing to do with CAPS. That is the only thing you are 1st Deputy of, so mind your business.
This has become an officer safety issue. The powers that be claim were already severely shorthanded. So how is towing our squad cars for "political correctness" going to solve anything? That takes one more car out of service and compromises the safety of everyone else on the street.
If a squad car parks in a non-legal spot it's because we may need to get to our cars quickly should a major catastrophy or 10-1 arise. Does it make sense to park a block away and slow down response if someone needs us right away? I've lost count how many times I've left a restaurant only two or three bites into my hot dinner because another officer needed help.
We need to stick to our guns on this or we're gonna get bent over and raped on this next contract. I'm going to write tickets to every Streets & San car and truck possible. It's the only way I can voice my disagreement with this STUPID decree by our brain-dead leaders. As long as I have a ticket book and discretion, I'm gonna hammer every city vehicle that's not police or fire related that I can. Nobody will escape with a break... nobody. It's "zero tolerance" time.
Oh, and if this city can afford a 26 million dollar BEAN and an entire Olympic Village, they certainly can afford to give us a 5 percent-a-year raise for the next 4 years!
work in 008...locked up a tow driver from s and s today...he decided he wanted to act disorderly today outside of work...beware when arresting... there are a couple of notifications that have to be made that i had no idea about...but with this character and his attituide he deserved it...another wonderful s and s employee from 6500 blk of maplewood who fu*ked up and always got away with it in the past...not anymore boys and girls! p.s....i was sure to tell him why he was going to jail and to spread the word that it will continue..no breaks for s and s...he had tears running down his face when brought in the back to lock up....funny..very very funny.
KEEP ON EYE OUT FOR THE STREEATS AND SAN SUV'S IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA (POSSIBLY CITYWIDE) , I'VE SEEN THEM DRIVING AROUND WITH BLUE AND RED FLASHING LIGHTS ON THE REAR OF THE VEHICLE ... WE CAN TICKET THEM FOR THAT.
Anonymous said...
work in 008...locked up a tow driver from s and s today...he decided he wanted to act disorderly today outside of work...beware when arresting... there are a couple of notifications that have to be made that i had no idea about...but with this character and his attituide he deserved it...another wonderful s and s employee from 6500 blk of maplewood who fu*ked up and always got away with it in the past...not anymore boys and girls! p.s....i was sure to tell him why he was going to jail and to spread the word that it will continue..no breaks for s and s...he had tears running down his face when brought in the back to lock up....funny..very very funny.
1/28/2007 03:36:02 AM
Aww little Streets & San guy hurt your felling maybe it's cuase they get paid more than you and don't have to Fuck the little people by making them go to court so they can make OT like YOU!
Now this guy goes to court ,you know everyone and there mother in Streets & San have copies of all this war crap on this Blog,and they show how all of this is in retaliation so he gets off and gets paid @ $29.15 per hour the day he goes to court! Who wins now JERK! What your doing is wrong! Get them for real stuff and get them by chance(you know by doing your job like patrolling maybe)not by targeting or should we call it PROFILLING!
Just what this city needs
MORE CORRUPTED COPS
HAMMER THE PRICK S&S DRIVERS WHO NOW HAVE A BOUNTY ON US!! SHOW THEM NO MERCY!!! DRIVE THEIR TRUCKS TO THE POUND, DON'T WAIT FOR ONE OF THEIR "BRETHREN" TO COME GET IT!!! THEY WANT A WAR, WE CAN SHOW THEM HOW A WAR IS WON!!
Aww little Streets & San guy hurt your felling maybe it's cuase they get paid more than you and don't have to Fuck the little people by making them go to court so they can make OT like YOU!
Now this guy goes to court ,you know everyone and there mother in Streets & San have copies of all this war crap on this Blog,and they show how all of this is in retaliation so he gets off and gets paid @ $29.15 per hour the day he goes to court! Who wins now JERK! What your doing is wrong! Get them for real stuff and get them by chance(you know by doing your job like patrolling maybe)not by targeting or should we call it PROFILLING!
Just what this city needs
MORE CORRUPTED COPS
Just one comment....guess you don't need 60 credit hours to work for S&S. Wow...did not understand that paragraph. Great grammar, keep driving that truck the rest of your life.
"...What your doing is wrong! Get them for real stuff and get them by chance(you know by doing your job like patrolling maybe)not by targeting or should we call it PROFILLING!..."
Do you mean "profiling?"
A pro-filling is something you'd get from a good dentist.
What a tool!
not by targeting or should we call it PROFILLING!
1/28/2007 12:45:53 PM
Not that it applies here in the least but, as long as you brought it up: Another idiot who thinks profiling (oh, and learn to spell, will you?) is illegal! Hey, asshat: drop that PC communist playbook NOW! Your continued belief that something SHOULD be illegal is not going to make it so in the real world.
Was'nt aware there was going to be a grammer test in this Blog.Your lucky your supplied test answers.
If I were to sit here and correct everyones grammer I would have enough mistakes to start a whole blog on that alone!!!!!
HEY Asshole spelled correct for you, is correcting grammer all you learned with your 60 credit hours thats why you target S&S?
(DAH can I tend the rabbits Ralph?I see big blue trucks with pretty lights!)
You assume I'm a truck driver because I don't agree with you?
I realize that this is not a war against cpd and s&s, your too stupid to see that.I am a dispatcher so I see and here both sides.Streets does not and will not tow M plates without the higher ups in your department requesting it.
Use your little 60 credit hours of Education and apply those skills to reading the procedures on how and why vehicles get towed.
This is not a war it's a stupid battle in your department.
Open your eyes (_O_)!
Hot off the press.....
Memorandum RE: Towing City Vehicles
When patrolling assighned areas and an unmaked vehicle displaying M plates is found Streets & Sanitation have been INSTRUCTED to..
1. Contact T2
2. Inform T2 of vehicle information
3. MOVE ONTO NEXT ASSIGNMENT
T2 is then responsible for contacting CPD operations Command on the pax 0301 or 0302 and provide this information. Should they request that this vehicle be towed they are to record name of CPD person requesting the tow and contact streets and sanitation supervisor with CPD decision.
This is from a memo at OEMC ask if you don't believe me.
There is no WAR Streets Dont & Wont tow your vehicle unless your own boss wants it done .
Stop the madness already!!!!!!!!!1
If you subscribe to the sun times cancel it. The sun times wont go out of buisness but even if they lost 1 or 2 thousand subscriptions in the next week they would want to know why. When they ask on the phone tell them that a picture of a cop parking is not a worth while story.
"...Was'nt aware there was going to be a grammer test in this Blog.Your lucky your supplied test answers.
If I were to sit here and correct everyones grammer I would have enough mistakes to start a whole blog on that alone!!!!!..."
Wasn't not "was'nt"
You're "on" this blog, not "in" it
You're (as in "you are") not "your"
Everyones' (you missed the apostrophe)
WANTED FOR MURDER: One misguided liberal for killing the English language.
Anonymous said...
"...Was'nt aware there was going to be a grammer test in this Blog.Your lucky your supplied test answers.
If I were to sit here and correct everyones grammer I would have enough mistakes to start a whole blog on that alone!!!!!..."
Wasn't not "was'nt"
You're "on" this blog, not "in" it
You're (as in "you are") not "your"
Everyones' (you missed the apostrophe)
WANTED FOR MURDER: One misguided liberal for killing the English language.
1/29/2007 12:57:59 PM
Is that all you got?
Tackle the issue smartass don't hide behind grammer mistakes. You obviously know what I am writing about.
Did 60 credit hours just teach you how to correct grammer?
My spell check does that ..I'm just to lazy to check it because it does not MATTER. I have seen & read enough events to write a book on dumb grammer mistakes but thats not the issue!
Liberal ...
1.Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
2.Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
3.Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
4.Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
Aww little Streets & San guy hurt your felling maybe it's cuase they get paid more than you and don't have to Fuck the little people by making them go to court so they can make OT like YOU!
Now this guy goes to court ,you know everyone and there mother in Streets & San have copies of all this war crap on this Blog,and they show how all of this is in retaliation so he gets off and gets paid @ $29.15 per hour the day he goes to court! Who wins now JERK! What your doing is wrong! Get them for real stuff and get them by chance(you know by doing your job like patrolling maybe)not by targeting or should we call it PROFILLING!
Just what this city needs
MORE CORRUPTED COPS
If he gets paid $29.15 an hour he doesn't make more money than the police except for a PPO you idiot.
teach you how to correct grammer?
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Apparently, "grammer" is a word found only in a liberal dictionary. Asshat.
Anonymous said...
teach you how to correct grammer?
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Apparently, "grammer" is a word found only in a liberal dictionary. Asshat.
1/30/2007 05:07:03 AM
Lots of time & money invested in your 60 credit hours and
ASSHAT is all you got to show for it....sad sad sad.. :~(
No matter what the issue is still the same!
S&S is not to blame for all this crap with police tows!
Grammer, asshat and the rest of the shit you want to single out doesn't matter!
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