Does Anyone Believe This?
- Chicago police will soon be able to see what is happening on a Chicago Transit Authority bus without getting on board, NBC5 reported on Thursday.
- New computer upgrades will allow officers to electronically tap into video cameras already installed on city buses.
- Video images viewed in real time will let police dispatchers issue immediate alerts about criminal activity.
First up, who the heck is watching all these cameras? We have a suspicion that the answer is "no one." These things are meant to give the impression of safety and the illusion of deterring crime, but anyone who works the street knows the reality of it - the camera, if it is pointing in the right direction, is merely a witness that doesn't change its story. And more than 99% the time, it isn't catching anything at all.
Second, see as how the PDT's are out of range more often than not and the pool rides so prevalent in Fleet don't even have mounts for the new computers, we're going to bet that actual camera time is overly limited.
But someone somewhere is making some major coin selling these things to the City.
Second, see as how the PDT's are out of range more often than not and the pool rides so prevalent in Fleet don't even have mounts for the new computers, we're going to bet that actual camera time is overly limited.
But someone somewhere is making some major coin selling these things to the City.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
70 Comments:
It is only for Special Employment cars. CTA HQ can monitor, but...........
Any copper working S/E can pull up behind a car and pull up the live feed from that bus.
Does this mean the legandary Sgt. Aztlan will be outmoded?
I don't care what anyone says. no camera is going to replace his roll calls.
How bout we take the handcuffs off of s.o.s. and let them do what they used to do...just because a few decided to make some mistakes dont take it out on the whole unit. ive never been in s.o.s but what i do know is when they had two or three teams in a district for a night sh*t got done and GUNS yes i said GUNS were taken off the street... not half blunts and warrants which is what the new breed of s.o.s officer seems to get. to all you s.o.s guys still there from the orig. teams, god bless ya.
Another factor to consider is that your vehicle must be in range of a CTA wireless "hotspot" in order to even connect to their system. So far they have a very limited number of "hotspots".....
Maybe CPD should think about putting PDT's in ALL there own cars first!
Allegedly,the cars at CTA that have all those goofy arsed antennas on them will pick up the signal from the cameras as you drive by and they will be on the new tough book PDT'd. I can't wait to see how the dogs that work special will use them as another excuse to not roll out of the car.
What no more CTA special?
Chicago police will soon be able to see what is happening on a Chicago Transit Authority bus without getting on board, NBC5 reported on Thursday.
This just in:
In an effort to actually feel like they're still the police, medical abusers will be able to log into the camera system from home,deck, cottage,boat, and see what their fellow officers are doing. The new high tech system will be a named "virtual rollcall".
Really, that's what I heard.
Will we be able to watch a DVD...on police training?
I thought the cta was broke?? Why dont we get grammar school kids to monitor it while in these useless CPS schools, which are broke too.
How bout we take the handcuffs off of s.o.s. and let them do what they used to do...just because a few decided to make some mistakes dont take it out on the whole unit. ive never been in s.o.s but what i do know is when they had two or three teams in a district for a night sh*t got done and GUNS yes i said GUNS were taken off the street... not half blunts and warrants which is what the new breed of s.o.s officer seems to get. to all you s.o.s guys still there from the orig. teams, god bless ya.
6/22/2007 12:29:00 AM
Those days are over pal. To do that type of work these days is nuts, you have to grab people and squeeze them to get those results. Now, if you get a gun every boss and their brother gets copies of everything, God forbid they think something isn't above board, you will be dumped. Just make your traffic stops and street stops, the guns will come, that's all SOS, TRU and TAC do now and who can blame them. They want the numbers, they just don't want to know how you got them, until the beefs start rolling in, it's not worth it anymore.........stay safe
(OT) but reltaed. Cobra radar detector company came up with a new device that tells you when a red light camera is approaching to give you time to slow down and stop thus not getting a ticket! In todays suntimes old eddie burke wants these band as he says the "city needs money"! Lets squeeze all we can out of the hard working people great idea ed! Ec head of the finannce committee how about you make sure the police get the proper pay and that we get a contract without needless arbitration! Ed how about cutting your large high paid staff? How about showing you a man of your word and cutting your lage bodyguard detail? How about getting rid of the large city car that the citizens genereously pay for all the high priced fuel? COME ON ED CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME WHAT HAS YOUR ARROGANCE DONE FOR US LATELY??
Want to know how well the PODs work? Homicide in 003 21JUN07 around the midnight hour. Brand new POD at 65/Cottage Homicide was at 6448 S. Cottage. POD is about 25 yards away. POD caught nothing. And obviously the shooter didn't give a fuck.
Belive this. A new gun turn in program is going to start on 5 July. Bring your used or new guns or just not wanted anymore to 95 and Stony. Upon arrival place your no longer needed weapon in the box and you'l recieve a free water melon from Miss. Also a one time deal on that day between 2 and 5 pm they will accept any weapon brick, stick, knife, even the old trusty smoothy. This offer has the mayor's and father Pfleger's personal belssings.
Here is how effective these cameras are. . .
Two nights ago there was a homicide right next to the POD camera at 65th and Cottage Grove. The POD camera clearly shows the victim standing on the street being the piece of shit that he is. Next, the camera sweeps away and back, and the victim is observed laying dead on the sidewalk of multiple gunshot wounds.
So here we have a homicide where the offenders were completely MISSED by the POD camera. What a waste of equipment. Unbelievable!!
No wonder the cta needs more money, they piss it away on all this bs ( gps, automated street announcements, bike racks, handicap lifts, etc.) How about providing bus service.
The monitors and gps will be used to locate the buses parked in lots because there is no money for fuel or drivers. The Romans had the same problem with their masschariot system.
OFF TOPIC:
Whats the deal w/this Doyle(X/retired CPD)guy thats on trial w/the MOB?
Was he a jagoff w/his outfit connections?
SGT RICKY AZTLAN
A SGT who still acts like a SGT !
A LEADER who leads his troops !
A GUY who can send dogs running, never to return to his roll call !
A BOSS who asks of his subordinates to work and guess what " they do " !
FOR ALL YOU NEW SGT'S OUT THERE TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU SHOULD BE LIKE ,OTHER-WISE YOU'LL BE JUST ANOTHER GUY/GAL IN A WHITE SHIRT "NOBODY RESPECTS"
The CTA SE cars are going to have these new computers that allow you to watch the video in the cars. The mounts are already installed in alot of the CTA cars.
Remember when all these POD cameras were introduced. They were going to be monitored 24 hours a day too.
I'm tired of all these video cameras. The PODS never catch any criminals. Every time I view one after a crime (I'm a det.), I get a nice clear view of the sidewalk or curb.
And the traffic cameras piss me off. Dude can go through red lights all day driving his no-plate-havin' hunk of shit. I drive 49 mph on the Dan Ryan and the frickin' camera goes off.
Of course, since we all have to be properly plated and stickered, I'm gonna get a ticket in the mail.
Leave everyone alone, catch 'em the old fashioned way. Video sucks!
There is no substitute for boots on the street, this is vet another waste of money. We have seen the amazing gun shot monitors that are going off all the time now because of fireworks and the pod cameras have been minimally useful at best.I have used them but the picture (most of the time) is shoddy and I have serious reservations about the Constitutional legitimacy of these things in the long term.This is just another feel good smoke and mirrors bandaide, and an expensive one at that.
Foe Your Information: The use of those blue-tooth head sets for your cell phones are prohibited under your general orders. Use of alternate communications devices are prohibited. (Besides they make cops look so ghetto)
It won't work. You need officers to respond to a crime on a bus, since we don't have any available on the street, it's a waist of time.
I heard the other day that a dispatcher told a sgt on the air that they had 19 disturbances stacked while the district was in their 3rd hour of backlogs and the sgt told the dispatcher to 19p all the jobs without even having them checked out. That's fucking bullshit. So a disturbance doesn't mean anything to you - well it does to the caller! So a disturbance can't turn into property damage, a physical fight or even worse. That's what's wrong with this department.
Crime is on the rise, back logs everyday for most of the entrie tour and nothing is being done about hiring more police. It's not even the dead of summer yet but wait, you'll see it's going to be a bloody summer like you've never seen because the bad guys know just like all the officers out there know about the no police presence out on the streets.
Turn the camera on the CTA driver's area and you would be shocked at what you see.
"to all you s.o.s guys still there from the orig. teams, god bless ya.
6/22/2007 12:29:00 AM"
It's all about the "Teams" huh Amigo?
I remember them coming into 011, conducting Home Invasions, riling up the locals and leaving the Beatcars to clean their shit up.
Good bye& Good Riddance bunch of Thieves & Robbers, NOTHING MORE.
someone will be watcing! Several times a week, hey, bt 2622, this one is coming in from pod....take the two male blacks drinking beer in the middle of the field under the tree.... Good Grief Charlie Brown!!
Yea that is what I want to do look on video at inside of a shitty bus! spend more $$$$$$$$ daley go huberman go but then again hub baby wants to shut the cta down maybe we could be the rxtra cameras in all of daleys cars, and burkes, and in their offices this would be true open government then we could watch and laugh at all the bullshit would even be a network tv special go more cameras yea ha! Oh how about cameras in all exempts cars and offices then we could truely watch ahow the orals are given and watch the fair process in motion! that would be cool lets due it!
TO THE PERSON THAT SAID THAT DOGASSES WORK CTS SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT GO F-CK YOURSELF YOU JAGOFF, I WORK CTA EVERY WEEK WITH SEISER AND WE USUALLY LOCK AT LEAST ONE PERSON PLUS A COUPLE OF ANOVS. YOU MUST LIVE IN THE 19TH WARD YOU POLITICAL DO NOTJING HACK AS FOR SEISER AND MYSELF ITS EDISON PARK, WHERE THE REAL POLICE LIVE.
Good to know that the bus drivers have better access to technology than the police do.
Hey Dick, when the fuck am I going to get a PDT that works? I have given up on dreaming of getting a decent one, just fix my old shitty ones!
so what, it's just smoke and mirrors. Can a video camera handcuff and arrest a bad guy on the bus or train? Don't think so. So, technically, the video cameras are basically like the personnel at the 35th St. Kool Aid Kingdom.....
A LIE...
I see the Alder Creatures would like to add a 5th star if we get the Olympics. Would that mean we would get issued new patches or would we have to by em?
Sgt. Aztlan tells it like it is, he rocks!!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!! THAT'S HILARIOUS, I STILL HAVE TO USE A DETECTIVES CAR IN MY UNIT AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NEW PDT'S LOOK LIKE
Let the dispatchers see the video from the busses- wasnt that the idea for the pod cameras too. We all know that has never happened so dont expect any live video feed to the zones, If that happened Huberman could hire his friends to watch them
Regarding the Cameras:
Its all about the "After the Fact" policing which is what we are anyway. Prevention is an illusion to con the citizens to keep taking the CTA. The cameras are only good if they are any good for convicting someone so the ASA's don't have a police officer fuck up a case.
Nobody wants to prevent anything anymore because that would mean police work and that will get the City sued and you and I fired. However, put a fucking camera everywhere, in a bus, on a street pole in a squad car or in the stations all over the place and a caase can be made against the criminal without our elite "ASA's" in Cook County having to "put on" a untrusted Chicago Police Officer! Just ask any Skokie Court going Po Po.... They believe we are worse than the shitheads that roam the halls of that sanctuary!
wouldnt it make more sense to live feed the pod's into the pdt's ???????
Totally off topic: More light cameras added. Belmont Avenue drivers beware!!! (Last month one was added at Belmont and Austin)
Cicero and Belmont
Pulaski and Fullerton
Pulaski and Belmont
Western and Foster
Harlem and Belmont
Harlem and NW Hwy
Clark and Fullerton
Handled the scene at an alleged CSA occuring onboard E/B elevated train at 20th & California a couple years back. CTA manager brought me to a room that held all the surveillence equipment for that stop. To his amazement, not mine, the person responsible for ensuring its proper operation had neglected to turn the computers back on after servicing the equipment! No tapes, no evidence. Thank God the purported CSA was suspicious. But one day there might be a bona fide rape, and a real victim, and the camera's will be non-functioning just the CTA employee who won't be monitoring them.
More useless cameras? Is our city replacing you with the Polaroid Police Department?!?!
We're short on cops on the streets, so who has time to find a WIFI area, and then view the inside of a bus/train?
But hey, it's great to know that if I get murdered here, the new Polaroid PD will mail a 3 x 5 picture suitable for a nice frame to my surviving relatives!!!
"I see the Alder Creatures would like to add a 5th star if we get the Olympics. Would that mean we would get issued new patches or would we have to by em?
6/22/2007 03:36:00 PM"
They should just put one large red Pentagram. This city is ruled by Satan and his depraved degenerate deviates anyway...
Anonymous said...
Totally off topic: More light cameras added. Belmont Avenue drivers beware!!! (Last month one was added at Belmont and Austin)
Cicero and Belmont
Pulaski and Fullerton
Pulaski and Belmont
Western and Foster
Harlem and Belmont
Harlem and NW Hwy
Clark and Fullerton
6/22/2007 06:44:00 PM
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Try the lioense plate covers they work and now they have red light camera detectors! big eddie burke does not like tto your stupid ideas thief! he wants a law against red light detectors geat job eddie another boneheaded idea! just like the no talking on phone laws will you enforce ed? maybe use the big guys on your cushy deatil they could go out and write tickets and generate reveue for the city you say you care about! instead of carting your ass to the beverly country club how about it ed? and you can carry a gun like the other alderthugs so you could arrest red light violators like the old west!
Luberman is most likely in charge of cta cameras. I would imagine he has stock in the monitors. Look at all the useless cameras at Oec, useless being that the real crime is being watched by the Fusion center cameras (notice more camera monitors). He wanted the calltakers to be watching live cameras while taking calls (more monitors). Now cta will have its own 10 million dollar room worth of useless monitors.
riddle me this batman: what does donny b., jimmy c.,tim k. & roy b. have in common? stay tuned! more to follow.
Pod's get good stuff, if someone actually looked at them. Instead of bullshitting and saying your on a POD mission, take the time to actually do it and you'll be amazed at what you can see.
regarding the riddle i am going out on a limb and say a TURKISH BATH HOUSE. not that it is wrong mind you.
Ricky Aztlan....or shall we say Ricky Ramizrez.......a leader????
Are you kidding me??
He is a loose cannon.
Listen boys and girls, just because a Sgt lets you do whatever you want, doesn't mean he is a good leader. Sometimes a leader has to tell you NO, but that would just mean he is a jagoff then, right.
Anonymous said...
Allegedly,the cars at CTA that have all those goofy arsed antennas on them will pick up the signal from the cameras as you drive by and they will be on the new tough book PDT'd. I can't wait to see how the dogs that work special will use them as another excuse to not roll out of the car.
6/22/2007 03:31:00 AM
It's about time, they put pdt's in the special cars.
I need a table for my coffee and doughnuts.
So here we have a homicide where the offenders were completely MISSED by the POD camera. What a waste of equipment. Unbelievable!!
6/22/2007 09:30:00 AM
What are you talking about?
The pod caught dude and dudette doing the nasty.
Isn't that what there for.
They are all drunken Buffoons that make the department look stupid?? They are the most un-respected cops in the Northern U.S?
to all you s.o.s guys still there from the orig. teams, god bless ya.
6/22/2007 12:29:00 AM
they all left by now....
ATZLAN.....DONT YOU MEAN RODRIGUEZ
HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO SOUND MORE AZTEC...HAHAHA
THIS GUY IS AS ABOUT ONE WAY AS THEY COME..............TAKE IT EASY TATTOO WE ARE WORKING OUR DAY OFF.
The city flag: How about a new star for each alderthief sent to prison!The flags would have o be about fifty feet long.
Anonymous said...
riddle me this batman: what does donny b., jimmy c.,tim k. & roy b. have in common? stay tuned! more to follow.
6/22/2007 11:40:00 PM
???????????? what is coming? quit bullshitting! who are these guys? what is happening? where is the clue batman??
Anonymous said...
riddle me this batman: what does donny b., jimmy c.,tim k. & roy b. have in common? stay tuned! more to follow.
6/22/2007 11:40:00 PM
got it! they don't have last names? their names are not capitalized? who are they? give a clue?
riddle me this batman: what does donny b., jimmy c.,tim k. & roy b. have in common? stay tuned! more to follow.
6/22/2007 11:40:00 PM
THEY'RE ALL GAY!!!!!
... and you probably thought that donny b was only Jimmy C's driver..HA!
i think that the four dudes in the riddle are employed at the bijou theatre? please, more clues batman!
Anonymous said...
riddle me this batman: what does donny b., jimmy c.,tim k. & roy b. have in common? stay tuned! more to follow.
6/22/2007 11:40:00 PM
THEY ARE ALL WHITE MALES WITH LOTS OF POWER? COME ON QUIT THE TEASING WHAT ARE THEY IN FOR?
riddle me this batman: what does donny b., jimmy c.,tim k. & roy b. have in common? stay tuned! more to follow.
6/22/2007 11:40:00 PM
STD's?
I thought it was Ricky Ramos.
Anonymous said...
ATZLAN.....DONT YOU MEAN RODRIGUEZ
HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO SOUND MORE AZTEC...HAHAHA
THIS GUY IS AS ABOUT ONE WAY AS THEY COME..............TAKE IT EASY TATTOO WE ARE WORKING OUR DAY OFF.
6/23/2007 10:32:00 AM
FUCK HIM DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AS YOU WORK FOR HIM DO SOMETHING WRONG AND YOU GET FIRED AND MAYBE GO TO PRISON TRUST HIM AS YOU TRUST DALEY! JUST DON'T DO IT! IT IS YOUR DAYOFF MAYBE AN ANOV 1 THAT IS ALL!
If we had 100 more Aztlans we'd be a much better department.
where is this money coming from? I thought the cta and city were crying poor as usual! They have money hidden everywhere where is the billions daley took in for the sale of the tollway? In his trunk? he is so full of shit! what a liar to put it mildly!
Riddle me...
I know they FINALLY got caught strong arming the airlines for free flights!! Oh Im so-o-o right on this one!
WHAT! FREE FLIGHTS. is this another riddle? please tell more.
What make anyone think a dispatcher has the time to watch a computer screen and sign into a bus camera. Don't people realize how extremely busy dispatchers and call takers are?! You're lucky we can take a full breathe let alone sign into a buys camera to stare at and see if anyone is doing something wrong. Between the 911 calls that are real and the calls that are just plan time consuming, I don't see any dispatcher taking the time to even consider taking a look. I listen to the chicago band from my department every night and the delay of calls is unreal..i can see it now.. Ok 2120 we have a battery in progress on bus 151 occured 2 hours ago....nice idea but a waste of money since we don't have the man power to watch it, or get to the busses..(but than again it's my personal opinion)
It's all about money. As long as your pay check doesn't bounce, don't worry about it.
Anonymous said...
Luberman is most likely in charge of cta cameras. I would imagine he has stock in the monitors. Look at all the useless cameras at Oec, useless being that the real crime is being watched by the Fusion center cameras (notice more camera monitors). He wanted the calltakers to be watching live cameras while taking calls (more monitors). Now cta will have its own 10 million dollar room worth of useless monitors.
6/22/2007 10:41:00 PM
Did you ever go into the cta center at 120 racine? They have a huge screen but most monitors are burnt out and maybe a cnn channel will work! More bullshit! the cta/and city are a train wreck waiting to happen! who has this contract? the tasers we know hilliard is running that operation and getting big $$$$$$$ for using his clout!
Why on earth would you want a PDT?
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