Thursday, August 23, 2007

First Line of Duty Death?

CPD attributes the first ever Line of Duty Death to Officer Casper Lauer. Now a new website purports to bring new evidence to light and prove that a Constable James Quinn was killed in the Line of Duty 9 months prior to Casper Lauer.

The site brings a bunch of high powered evidence in the form of Chicago Historical Society records and such. They also delve into the conspiracy category by alleging that the reason Grau and Williams didn't get the Superintendent spot is because the mayor found out both lied about an Awards Committee meeting that was to deal with the Quinn/Lauer controversy. We'd need to see proof of that one.

SCC has no dog in this fight and merely brings it to the attention of our readers because we found some of it interesting and some of it entertaining. And any remembrance of our dead is a good thing. Click here for more.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is the author of this website?

8/23/2007 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For reasons unknown, Oily Eddie Burke was pushing to have this guy named as the 1st line of duty death.

He was rejected several times by the review board.

But Eddie is above all that and is still demanding to have his way despite evidence to the contrary.

8/23/2007 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I found this interesting (from the weblink):

The special honors accorded Lauer had everything to do with his long-time personal friendship with Police Captain, Luther Nichols, one of Chicago’s most prominent “Know Nothings.”

Luther would be proud, 150 years later and City Hall as well as 35/Michigan are filled to the brim with Know Nothings!

8/23/2007 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No dog in this fight? With the current happenings in society these days...I have to say, I am offended by that statement.

8/23/2007 02:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I encourage everyone to take the time and read this story. It's a real eye opener. I wasn't aware of this travesty til I saw it on today's post.

8/23/2007 04:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8/23/2007 12:55:00 AM

Whatever eddie burke wants eddie burke gets! Wonder if he will be worried about his role in Laski's soon to be published book?

8/23/2007 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bingham hired by the Memorial? Something smells...

8/23/2007 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Rick Barrett said...

I am the author of the Quinn web site. My name is Rick Barrett. I am a retired DEA Agent. I inadvertently discovered the long forgotten line of duty death (LODD) of Constable Quinn in 2002. I wrongly assumed the police brass would act as Good Shepherds and rejoice the finding of one of its “lost sheep.” How wrong I was!

From 2002 to ‘05 I played nice and followed all their rules. The gloves came off after 3 years of being jerked around by police "historians" and the police brass. I launched the web site to get the truth out.

Since then, the following individuals and bodies have concurred with the mountains of incontrovertible evidence supporting Quinn’s LODD:

1.Thomas Epach, the former Executive Assistant to the Supt. wrote a July ’05 memo to Cline recommending the CPD honor Quinn’s sacrifice. (Epach was denied and he subsequently resigned over this issue in Dec ’06.)
2.The Illinois State Legislature, HR1259 Resolution dated May 4,‘06.
3.Alderman Burke’s book, “End of Watch” March 15,‘07.
4.The Chicago History Museum, May 22,‘07.

Note: these recent findings were in addition to the original 1853 and 1854 City Council documents which found & concurred that Quinn died “in the discharge of his duty.”

The claim by Monique Bond and former Dep. Supt. James Molloy that the Awards Committee has met three times on the Quinn case is B.S. pure and simple.

Meeting #2 was a closed door/back room mtg involving former Commander Marianne Perry and Charles Williams and others who held a closed meeting --- They intentionally excluded Thomas Epach because he was a known proponent of the case. When Epach discovered this Kangaroo court style mtg, he went to Cline and had it nullified.

Worse yet, the alleged 3rd meeting claimed by Starks to have occurred on March 22, 2006, NEVER happened. They fabricated it in a knee jerk reaction to a call from the Mayor's office regarding the case that same day. Epach knows it. Risley knows it. Molloy knows it (but Molloy will probably deny it today!). Check it out.

So the notion that this is an OLD case and that “oily” Ed Burke keeps bringing up is just plain WRONG! This is a case that has been denied justice. Burke has worked tirelessly to correct that.

Constable Quinn never got a fair shake from today’s police brass. Why? His case encountered the “perfect storm” of personal jealousies.

1.The so-called historians of the CPD have a vested interest in retaining Casper Lauer as the CPD’s first to fall. Why? Because they claim they discovered the Lauer death in 1989. They are wedded to their claim and you need to look no further than the date of the next planned candlelight vigil at the new police memorial – Sept 18th –the anniversary of Casper Lauer’s death…as proof that the CPD brass are wedded to the Lauer story. To hold a special memorial on Lauer’s anniversary instead of during National Police Week in May is very telling. The significance of choosing this date is not lost by Quinn supporters…The brass are telling us to stick it!

2.The fact that I supervised the successful 1991-95 DEA Task Force investigation of Larry Hoover and the GD’s is something Cline will never get over…He hates me cause he felt “upstaged” by the “Feds” over the case. He, as a CPD Gangs Lieutenant in 1993, had NOTHING to do with the most successful organized crime case since Al Capone. Apparently, he forgot there were CPD officers and detectives assigned to the case and they did a great job!

Make no mistake, personal jealousies and hidden agendas are at the very roots of Quinn’s rejection. This is personal because the evidence supporting Quinn is irrefutable and the weight of it is crushing…That is why anyone w/o an agenda and has an IQ higher than room temperature, backs the case.

The Quinn case will never be over until justice is served. I am a tireless advocate of the case and I hope all of the rank and file of the CPD will be too.

Please peruse the entire Quinn web site…make sure to read "Case submitted to the CHM" and “the Quinn case in Context” and “Truth or Consequences” (scroll down to the bottom of the opening page of “T and C” and you’ll find a link to supporting docs. You’ll see that I posted this BEFORE Grau and Williams were dumped!)

The Mayor knows there was NO March 22, 2006 meeting of the Awards Committee (as claimed by CPD brass) on the Quinn case. He knows they faked the meeting in response to a call from his office.He knows anyone who says there was such 03/22/06 meeting is a liar.

Until somebody comes forward with convincing evidence to show I’m wrong, I will continue to believe that Daley gave Grau and Williams a chance to come clean about the fabricated March 22, 2006, Awards Committee meeting on Quinn and both of them were too arrogant and too ignorant to fess up. In the end, they have nobody to blame but themselves for their failure to get the top cop spot.

Call it “The Curse of Constable Quinn!”

8/23/2007 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is true it is surely a travesty, but is not shocking. I'm sure Officers from eras past can tell of how the powers that be mantipulate the fallen to suit them.

8/23/2007 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous The View said...

Does it really matter all that damn much who the dubious honor of "killed in the line of duty" goes to? Does it prop up or diminish the reputation of this Dept. in any way? Just asking.

8/23/2007 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Constable James Quinn was killed in a drunken brawl with someone that he had an ongoing grudge against. All of the evidence indicates that he was inebriated at the time as was the offender (mutual combatant). The "offender" had a history of arrests, which is what Oily Eddie is hanging his hat on to make this a line of duty. It is an insult to the memory of Casper Lauer and he should be ashamed. If he does get his way then give the guys at the Jefferson Tap medals and merit promotions. What a fucking joke.

8/23/2007 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 10:02 p.m. There is no evidence that Quinn was enebriated or drunk as you say....not one single piece of credible evidence can you provide to show that! The "drunken brawl" defense was never raised until 2002 when CPD historians spun a 1854 statement from a convicted felon who alleged Quinn had been drinking but was "not intoxicated." Bingham and O'Sullivan and their buddies like you spun the tale into the reckless shit you say today. You're the disgrace...It takes a real big man to disparage the dead. You're a fuckin joke!

8/24/2007 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am very happy that individuals have so much pride in the City of Chicago and its history that they would put their reputations on the line to prove what they have discovered is the truth. Similar to an investigation within the CPD when there is new evidence discovered it cannot be ignored and therefore must be verified. Casper LAUER was always considered to be the first Chicago policeman killed in the line of duty and there was no evidence to the contrary until now. The possibility of another policeman being killed in the line of duty before him should be researched for validity. I have read copies of the records that do show that JAMES QUINN was recognized by the council as dying from injuries he received while in the performance of his duties,specifically making an arrest. I might add that the constables had no revolvers at the time and often had to rely on their skill with the hands. If you read at least part of the web sight you will see that QUINN was recognized as dying from a duty related incident and his family was awarded compensation. (50.00)If you read further you will discover that the person responsible for QUINN's death was arrested, tried and found guilty and sentenced. All documented. What is not documented however is that QUINN was drunk during the incident because that is not true. Transcripts record one witness making this allegation who just happens to be a friend of the man found guilty! I think that the parties not in agreement regarding this matter should realize that there is plenty of room in the CPD archives to rectify something that was only recently discovered. Doing this will not take any thing away from what Casper LAUER did while also in the service of the citizens of Chicago. I assure you that I have seen all the records available pertaining to QUINN's death and challenge anyone to provide documantation to the contrary. There is more paperwork and research available regarding JAMES Quinn than most of all the other fallen heroes in the star case. You can read all the materials available in the QUINN web site and you can be the judge.
Regarding the reference to Mr.Burke being "oily" I can only assume that they are talking about Mr. Burke burning the midnight oil when he and Mr. Gorman researched their book titled "End of Watch" dedicated to all the chicago policemen killed in the line of duty since its inception. Mr. Burke did recognize James QUINN as the first killed. Do you think Mr. Burke's book would recognize James QUINN as the first policeman killed in the line of duty if he and the publishers didn't read all the evidence first? They allso researched the facts surrounding the circumstances of all the others in the book as well.
There should be no policeman who was killed in the line of duty used to satisfy anyone's egos. All of the fallen policeman should be recognized for the ultimate sacrifice he or she has made! Even retired Supt. Cline resisted this new evidence but continued his work for the police memorial and initiated a new policey that all policeman who lost their lives while on duty should have their stars in that star case and be recognized for what they have done! With the documentation that is available for all to read on the Quinn web site and the endorsement of Mr. Burke in his book, Constable James QUINN should also be recognized and his name should be displayed in the CPD star case as well.

P.S. If the person who made the last entry feels so strongly about what he thinks happened he or she should sign their name to it.

"Not anonymous" N. Maas

8/24/2007 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quinn died as a result of he injuries sustained in fight in a bar with an individual he should have arrested, but didn't. Oh, I might add that he was off-duty and drinking in that tavern when he voluntarily engaged in a fight with an individual he had previously had an altercation with and whom he should have arrested . Why didn't he arrest the individual he fought with? Yes, after some time, the city awarded Quinn's widow a small death benefit. No one knows however whether it was a genuine death beneift award or a act of compassion to aid a widow of a police officer on the edge of poverty. Quinn apparently died from injuries sustained in the fight, but circumstances show he wasn't on duty and probably died under circumstances that today would have gotten him fired. Oh, by the way, is Barrett related to Quinn?

8/24/2007 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, by the way, is Barrett related to Quinn?

8/24/2007 06:32:00 AM
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Without having the family tree in front of me, and/or the marriage and birth certificates also in hand of Mr. Barrett his wife, his mother in law etc.. I can only go by recall and say that I believe he is related by marriage to Constable Quinn. Grandson-in-law or something like that.

There is enough controversy surrounding Quinn's death, and there was obviously enough presumed transgression back then to have cast some doubt. The original law enforcement officers in Chicago were soldiers sent out from Fort Dearborn to control the lawlessness among the ne’er-do-wells, drunkards, robbers and thugs who were thrown out of the Fort for their in ability to behave among the rest of the Fort’s populous. Their tent and shanty village in front of the Fort needed policing and the soldiers were sent out. After that it was one guy with a leather badge… until he was killed by the miscreants and someone else had to take his place. Then there were two, three, then nine, then twenty-two... Each and every one of them should have some recognition in our archives and should be noted in the Star Case under one Star. Star #1 that says to all who served and lost their lives, known and unknown. Our history is rich, but we’ll never know the real first. We should not have a “first” where doubt surrounds the legitimacy of Line of Duty. Why don’t we suggest that Constable Quinn be included under the STAR #1, recognizing him for his service, and drunk or not his loss relating to his application of duty.

8/24/2007 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous rick barrett said...

To the 0632 writer: Hey Genius, do these two Rules mean anything to you:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."...or how about, "Thou shalt not lie."

You Quinn haters have lied and twisted facts not in the record...For one, Quinn and his partners from the Night Watch did arrest Rees. That was early Sunday a.m. and that is why the 26 officers of the Night Watch were paid overtime...that is how Rees ended up in court at 0800 Monday a.m. He got locked up Sunday. That's a little evidence you refuse to consider. You also keep saying Quinn was "off duty"...a charge for which there is no basis in fact...Ironically, under the new rules adopted by Cline, even if Quinn had been "off-duty" as you allege, how would it have mattered given the new rules? So what is your point about this "off duty" allegation?

But to argue facts with you is useless. You are without any ethics or morals and you continue to make stuff up. Jesus Christ Himself could come down from the Cross and tell you Quinn was a line of duty death and you'd reject it...You'd probably tell Him He's not "on the job" so butt out of CPD business!

You've dismissed the findings of seven professional historians from the Chicago History Museum who reviewed the evidence and documents in this case for 11 months. You NEVER mention them..as if it never happened. All seven real historians found Quinn was a line of duty death. But of course, they ain't coppers either, so who cares what PhD's in history have to say, right?

Here's the real deal: this whole Quinn case has exposed the buffoonery you so- called "historians" have been engaged in for years. You have been unmasked as incompetent idiots and your corrupt sense of pride will not let you see the truth in the Quinn case.

Further, the double standard is your hallmark. Your entire "case" is built on the alleged statements of a vicious convicted criminal, one Stephen Crosby, (who was killed in a prison break from Alton, IL in 1855) and a Know Nothing named Wilson Perry. Neither of these 2 guys ever said what you claim they did, re: being "drunk" and/or "off duty" In fact, one said Quinn walked away from the fight...saying "I wish no trouble with you" You disregard that as well. Neither Crosby or Perry ever accused Quinn of being "drunk" or "off duty" Those are your words...not theirs...and oh, by the way, since when do CPD "historians" rely on the statements of convicted criminals made at the trial of a cop killer? BTW: isn't it strange that there is NO historical corroboration of Crosby and Perry's minor league allegations made at trial? I mean, was the allegation that Quinn was "inebriated" and "drunk" as you claim ever raised again anywhere after the trial was over?
The answer is NO. Not even the defendant, Rees, ever raised the "drunk" and "off duty" defense that you provided 150 years after the trial.

Let’s face it, you are embarrassed that you have been exposed as incompetent...and you are not man enough to say you were wrong. BTW: "Pride" is also a sin...

Lastly, I am not related to Quinn or Burke...I am just a guy trying to do the right thing...something you have shown you are totally incapable of doing.

Next time why don't you man up and sign your name....but why change now? Your Nov. 15, 2006, presentation to the Chicago History Museum was done in "secret" as well. You refused to engage in an open and transparent review of the evidence. You did not want the Quinn side to know the B.S. you tried to sell the CHM. It didn’t work. They saw right through your B.S. and got to the truth. The History Museum professional historians found Quinn was a line of duty death.

Get over it and heed the wisdom of an old Irish saying: "When you're in a hole, stop digging!"

8/24/2007 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bingham and O'Sullivan and their buddies like you spun the tale into the reckless shit you say today. You're the disgrace...It takes a real big man to disparage the dead. You're a fuckin joke!

8/24/2007 12:41:00 AM

Both of these hacks shit all over their workers,when they were bosses.All except the connected ones.I guess their attitude carries over to dead PO's.

8/24/2007 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rick Barrett is the son of the most notorious bagmen from the 007th Dist. Lt. "Junior" Barrett. Rick's reputation at DEA was doubious at best. He left and tried to get a job with the county and they said no way. If he was such a steller "lawman" you would think someone would have picked him up by now, all of that great experience and all. Is Rick denying any relation to Quinn?

8/24/2007 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can change history, if you have enough money and tell enough half truths. It is very clear, that the Quinn family are friends of one of the authors of this book. If you make enough of a case of something, it may look and seem true. The fact of the matter is that Lauer was a sworn officer, period! That is what is documented and a death in the line of duty, stabbed during a domestic. He was working as a SWORN OFFICER, not drinking in a tavern. Get your heads out of your asses. I feel sorry for what happened to Quinn, but you can't expect everyone to believe that you have the very documention that makes Quinn, a SWORN POLICE OFFICER. You can compare apples and oranges all day long. Sworn officer,constable. Sworn officer,constable. Sworn officer,constable. This is webster's definition:
Main Entry: con·sta·ble
Pronunciation: 'kän(t)-st&-b&l, 'k&n(t)-
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English conestable, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin comes stabuli, literally, officer of the stable
1 : a high officer of a royal court or noble household especially in the Middle Ages
2 : the warden or governor of a royal castle or a fortified town
3 a : a public officer usually of a town or township responsible for keeping the peace and for minor judicial duties.
MINOR judicial duties, not a police officer. So for the record, anyone can research anything and put a spin on their interpretation. In which, that means stimulating explanatory information. Yes, it is a intresting case that you Quinn story tellers' set forward, but you still set aside the fact that Quinn was not a sworn officer. Please stop with the witch hunt of Burke and other, trying to save face for writing a book with misleading information and trying to add Quinn as the first police officer, killed in the line of duty. I believe an admission of error is due. Yes, I bought the book, read it and have known officers in it. I have admitted to buying and reading the book and not admitting the fact, that I am a historian. But, I am a educated officer and can see a smoke job, when I see one.

8/25/2007 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rick barrett said...

FROM WHAT I HAVE READ ABOUT THE ISSUE, I AM OUTRAGED BY CLINE'S DENIAL AND PRONOUNCED REFUSAL TO HONOR A SLAIN POLICE OFFICER. THIS IS REVISIONIST HISTORY THAT CLINE AND HIS CHUMS ARE PAWNING OFF.

FROM THE RESEARCH I HAVE CONDUCTED RICK BARRET IS A DECENT AND HONORABLE MAN. PLEASE POST A CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS RICK, I HAVE SOME IDEAS ON HOW TO RECTIFY THIS INJUSTICE.

ONCE AGAIN CLINE'S EGO AND LACK OF LEADERSHIP HURT THE CPD.

8/25/2007 03:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Rick Barrett is the son of the most notorious bagmen from the 007th Dist. Lt. "Junior" Barrett. Rick's reputation at DEA was doubious at best. He left and tried to get a job with the county and they said no way. If he was such a steller "lawman" you would think someone would have picked him up by now, all of that great experience and all. Is Rick denying any relation to Quinn?

8/24/2007 10:52:00 AM Whether or not he is related has no bearing on the facts of the matter.Barrett makes a good arguement for his point of view.Doesn't matter who is or isnt related to who.If you can't dispute his facts,resort to name calling.

8/25/2007 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous rick barrett said...

To the 1:03 a.m writer.
Please check your facts about SWORN OFFICERS. I made that easy for you by posting "The Rules and Regulations of the Chicago Police Department for 1853" on the www.constablequinn.com web site.

These Rules can also be found in the archives of the Illinois Regional Archives Depository (IRAD) at Northeastern Illinois Universtiy. Suggest you either read them on my web site or go up to IRAD and read them on their microfilm.
A reading of the Police Rules of 1853 clearly establishes Constables as Sworn Police Officers. You need to read and understand the documents that support the Quinn case before making baseless allegations. You are just plain wrong my friend.

As for Quinn relatives, I can assure you that NOBODY connected with this whole movement to honor Quinn is a Quinn relative. Not Burke, not O'Gorman not me.
I found over 200 descendents of Constable Quinn by doing his genealogy. He had 3 kids and I traced all of them.
I am doing this simply because it is the right thing to do. Sorry if it doesn't fit in your agenda and sorry you did not take the time to go thru the evidence on the site.
May I suggest that you read 2 parts:
"Follow the Evidence" and the "Timeline." ALL of the supporting documentation is linked to those two sections. If you bother to take the time, and your honest, you'll get it.
But I have been painted to be a bad guy for simply trying to do the right hting...My family has been slandered and for what? Do you really find pleasure inattcking the dead?

It really is very sad. What is the cause of all your visceral feelings and hatred? Why all the hatred for me? for my family? What did I do wrong?

There is not one cent in this for me. You find that hard to believe cause you have grown so cynical over the years. I have always loved the CPD. When I was a kid of 7 years old, I had pennies thrown at my feet and haters would say, What are pennies made of? answer: "DIRTY COPPER!" ...and so I learned to fight...when I was 15 (in 1968)the Democratic Convention riots were on and I had to fight for my family and for the honor of the CPD then as well. Everytime I heard the word "PIG" the fight was on.. You simply have no idea how much and for how many years I have defended the CPD.

I did this whole Quinn thing as a labor of love...I was proud of the discovery. I thought you would welcome him "home" but all Quinn got and all I got was a kick in the balls from cyber space by faceless people. What the hell happened to the CPD?

If you would like to contact me, my email addrees is: rickbarrett@constablequinn.com

Unfortunately some of you will send hate mail...I will pray for you. Why do you stone me? Why do you stone my family? I just tried to do the right thing. That's all it ever was...doing he right thing for a fallen SWORN OFFICER...

8/25/2007 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Barrett, I am the writer of 1:03 am. If you think that my entry on this forum was an attack on you and your research, you must not understand the concept of a blog. My entry was if anything, my own take on the topic at hand.

I've added a hit to your web site and have had a day to look it over and this was no hobby, as you wrote, " a labor of love", in reponse to my statement. You were paid to do this work.

I have done a family tree and I would like to see how you obtained your material? Again, you stated that you researched this because of your labor of love for the department. And again, it takes around a year or two to obtain the orders from the national archives, etc; or Ellis Island.org for passenger records as of recent.

But, my intrest is not the family tree of Quinn.

My point is, your documentation of the testimony has Quinn inside of a establishment drinking, is that not true? Your statement that, " Bingham does not have one single piece of CREDIBLE evidence to justify his belief that Quinn was “involved in a personal matter while off duty in a tavern".

Is that not the piece he needed?

Does this mean that your information is not credible?

If you are going to site material, read it before you spin it. Your own documentation supports the fact that Quinn was drinking, inside of a tavern and that Bingham is correct.

I don't know Bingham and I don't know you, but I can read and it is plain as day. You have a beef with someone and a lot of time on your hands. God bless you and good luck.



So, I hope this engagement has been stimulating for you, as much as it has been for me. I hope, that if you do respond to this enrty, you would have more respect, not be patronizing, as to insult my intelligence.

I don't have the time, nor the desire to engage you again on this matter.

Signed,
1:03

8/26/2007 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rick Barret,

It's awesome to hear from ya! Lad I hope retirement is treating you well. For all the P.O.'s that don't know, Rick Barret was a Group Supervisor in a Task Force Group in the Drug Enforcement Administration Chicago Field Division at the old Dirksen Building Office. His group which included the legendary and awesome Chicago Police Detective Mary Hodge, and also SA Dave Tibbets. That group pursued a complex investigation which involved lots of surveillance, garbage pulls, usage of informants, and long term title three intercepts. This investigation led to Larry Hoover being lodged forever in federal custody. ASAC Barret retired from DEA as a GS 15 in charge of liaison with INTERPOL in Washington DC. He was definitely not a slug. One could easily argue he was quite passionate about his work. I can remember when Barret was a GS he decked another GS who was a dog who did not want to seriously support the Hoover investigation. Retired ASAC Barret would be a great exempt in charge of IAD and Inspections for the Chicago Police Department. He would get down to the root of the corruption, thuggery, and malfeasance that inhibits the "real police" from successfully doing their job.

Former CPD 222 beat car driver guy now serving as an 1811 Federal Criminal Investigator in a secure and undisclosed office in the loop.

8/26/2007 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous rick barrett said...

I have never been a paid one red cent for the Quinn research or any thing to do with this whole project. I live outside Washington D.C and the National Archives are a few minutes away and so is the Library of Congress. When I am in Chicago, I spend my time at IRAD the Newberry and the CHM. Yes, I have spent thousands of hours on this “case” since 2002...I like Irish history and CPD history.

I must admit if it were not for all the push back and resistance from the CPD brass and its historians, I would have never known all that I now know about the Quinn case. Everytime they through a boulder in the road or raised the bar, I had to overcome it with evidence. I did that time and time again and that is why the professors at the History Museum saw the truth.

Also, I gladly paid out of my own pocket to have the web site built.

Think about this: Can you imagine what your job would be like if everyunsubstantiated nd uncorroborated allegation out of the mouth of a career criminal were taken as Gospel against you? Would that be fair? Where would we all be?

Look at the 2 witnesses who alleged Quinn was drinking on Saturday...One was a career criminal and in fact this bad guy was killed when escaping from prison...not exactly an altar boy. The other was a political enemy of Quinn...Out of these mouths came the alleged testimony that CPD historians point to as Gospel. That is important to know.

Moreover, here is a major point that everybody misses: All of the allegations regarding this alleged drinking involve the activities of Saturday night/ not Friday night. Nobody ever alleged any wrong doing by Quinn on Friday night. It was the Friday night attack with which the defendant was charged. Why? because he first attacked Quinn on Friday night. It is that simple. That Friday event was the first link in the chain of injuries that caused Quinn’s death. The Coroner ruled Quinn died as a result of both the Friday and Saturday attacks by Rees...So given that, the grand jury only charged Rees with the Friday night attack. He was only prosecuted and convicted for the Friday night attack

The Saturday night drinking allegation never had any relevance to the case as it was not charged in the indictment nor was Rees prosecuted for it.

So, All the fuss about this drinking thing is much ado about nothing. It is a smokescreen meant to get you off track. You need to focus on the night with which Rees was charged: Friday….and nobody ever alleged Quinn did anything wrong on Friday.

Also, did you know that there is NO historical corroboration of the drinking allegation...It was a defense tactic used at trial and then never raised in any venue again. Never.

Consider this: When Rees himself was gunned down in 1868 (a full 15 years after he killed Quinn) the Chicago Police were “exuberant” and called for all law loving citizens to celebrate! Why would they do that if Quinn was “off duty and drunk” NO. On the contrary, as the papers of 1868 recalled “It will be remembered by many that Quinn was searching for a thief when fatally attacked by Rees.” That's 15 years later....and he was "searching for a thief" NOT in a “bar room brawl off duty and drunk.”

You should also consider the "double standards" here...here is one: No Superintendent has ever reversed a previous finding/determination of a line of duty death...until Quinn...The documents from the Dec. 12, 1853 and March 6, 1854 Common Council (which was the administration of the police dept. at the time; just look at the Ordinances that created the CPD dated 1851 and 1853 linked to my site for proof) made clear these legal bodies (with power to act) found Quinn died in the discharge of his duties...

Yet these rulings are being overturned today for personal reasons; not professional. Overturning prior decisions has not been done with regard to any other officer. Look at Edward Leach…his was not overturned and the facts show that it should have been.,

Another double standard....when criminals made allegations against Supt. Cline (C.W. Wilson) they were discounted. Why? because C.W. was a scum bag/ convicted criminal...yet in Quinn, the statements of scum bag/convicted criminal, Stephen Crosby are taken as Gospel by today’s police historians and police brass...Worse, they are spun to a much higher level...Remember, it was Crosby who said Quinn was drinking but “not intoxicated” ...yet today's Quinn haters have taken that "not intoxicated" and spun it to "off duty and drunk" Is that a double standard? I think so.

That is very frustrating...and it becomes obvious there is a lot more going on here in Quinn's ejection than the facts...by the postings on this blog, you can see that this is a personal thing. I was perceived as butting into CPD business...and I am an “outsider” It is that simple. Make no mistake...Today’s cpd brass and its historians closed ranks and shut me out. It has nothing to do with the Quinn evidence. Look no further than the rigged (2nd) and faked (3rd) meetings of the Awards Committee on Quinn. Disgraceful! Quinn has never gotten a fair shake and it has nothing to do with the facts of the case. It has to do with politics ...Politics then (1853) and politics now..(2003-2007)

and why does everybody dismiss the findings of the professional historians at the Chicago History Museum? Is that fair? They don't have a dog in this fight, yet it's as if they never existed...Is that fair? The CHM finding does not fit into the agenda of the cpd brass or its historians so it is summarily dismissed. That's the real deal.

Lastly, I want to thank SCS and SCC for posting all these blogs. This is my last one.
I appreciate all of the time and space you have given to me and the Constable.

8/26/2007 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Rick Barrett thinks it's frustrating arguing historical points with these self appointed "police historians",he should have tried working for these legendary asswipes.Only in the CPD could these frauds,these charlatans rise to ranks of captain.These hacks were unqualified to be good patrolmen.

8/26/2007 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rick Barrett needs to know that Phat Phil Cline is a ruthless egomaniac who is always right,never wrong. Phat Phil holds grudges forever and has literally let guys hang, that proved him wrong just to prove a point. Arguing or debating with Phat boy is pointless and only makes him digin deeper in his shallow ignorance and stubborness.

Rick,
You would have better luck getting a lollipop from a toddler than winning a logical debate with Cline. Cline's Way or No Way.

That is why he was fired, Mayor Richard M. Daley didn't take kindly to his attitude and failure to heed input.

8/28/2007 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are all on the deck of the Titanic (CPD) and you morons are arguing about something that happened or didn't happen over 100 years ago. Who gives a shit!

9/01/2007 10:22:00 PM  

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