Friday, October 26, 2007

Quick Hits

So much to cover, but we don't feel like burying the readers in a dozen posts:
  • U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow on Thursday handed off to a federal appeals court the hot potato over whether to release the names of Chicago Police officers most often accused of excessive force.
Nice to see the aldercreatures who are attempting to circumvent the legal process and protections for their own political gains getting slapped down and told to behave according to the law of the land. More coverage at Channel 2 and Channel 5.
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  • An Office of Professional Standards perceived as too cozy with the Chicago Police Department and too protective of rogue officers will change its name to make a clean break with the past, a top mayoral aide said Thursday.
  • And she’s trying to decide how to proceed in cases where there is no signed affidavit.

    “Whether or not someone signs an affidavit it not a good indication of the validity” of that complaint, Rosenzweig said.

Wow. A name change will make everything all better. It worked for SOG once. And unfortunately, our bullshit detector pegged out at 100% for that last comment regarding "validity." State law dictates that a complaint without an affidavit is a non starter - therefore, it's a perfect indicator of validity. FOP better fight this one tooth and nail.
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Let's have someone set a date and have Ryan start rotting in prison already. Channel 2 and Channel 5 also cover this long overdue justice.
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  • The CBS 2 Investigators have uncovered another serious emergency response failure at this year's Chicago Marathon. More questions are being raised about what happened to 35-year-old runner Chad Schieber after he collapsed. Did calls to 911 go unanswered?

    [...] Schieber was still alive and had a pulse but critical time passed as he lay dying in the street. For days Chicago officials claimed nobody called 911 for him. So the 2 Investigators went digging and found that simply is not true.
This Marathon disaster of an emergency response just won't go away. And now, OEMC is getting caught in lies and backtracking from stories they've been telling about the calls, the response and the aftermath. Got to get those Olympic sized construction contracts rolling - can't let poor planning and poor emergency responses get in the way of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of business!

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ever call 911 Even if you make the mistake of iding yourseld as a off duty cop they question you and it usually takes at least two calls to get or brothers and sisters to the scene. The Media should look into that!!

10/25/2007 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP WILL PROTECT CR BY AFFIDAVIT TOOTH AND NAIL!!! After all, FOP got it for us. Anyone that says otherwise is retarded and\or has some retarded political agenda. We are disciplined LESS than any on the largest cities in the U.S. That is a FACT!! Therefore, no more bitching about our union. They (FOP) actually got a brief with solid arguments filed in the Federal Appeals court last week while 28 alderman failed to do the same. If anything, our union seems to be EXTREMELY successful when it comes to discipline. It seems awfully stupid to throw rocks at the FOP when the media is constantly bitching in the papers and on TV that we are never disciplined. FOP has my vote, for sure.

10/25/2007 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S.W.A.T. tryouts are going city wide as soon as the lady from HQ figures out what the standards will be. Already got new SGT's that were left over from S.O.S..No need to know anything just make your calls and you too can wear a green flight suit. For the guys left on the team good luck and watch your backs.

10/26/2007 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

look at the top of the chain here daley! He really fucked this city but good! The runner according to reports was in ambulance from burbs but they got lost going to hospital! RIP officer! Again and again daley and the clown aldermen screw the citizens of the city that actually apy the bills great job idiots!

10/26/2007 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF topic: Anyone who is a lawyer out there: What is the legality of these thugs getting up on police officers face with their damn cameras recording everything that the P.O.'s do on their calls???? What if they post this stuff. If I want to be on TV or You Tube I will go to Hollywood. I know that if you are doing your job right than you should not worry, but I just do not believe that anyone can post shit about you without your consent. Anyone know what the laws to recording P.O's are??? I don't want to bother asking FOP - becaus I already know their answer - Nothing

10/26/2007 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, man. Quote some M.C. Hammer and get this mutha rollin'! Kiss my ass.

10/26/2007 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember folks.If chi town gets the games,use 6 bag concrete and lots of rebar on your shelters.

10/26/2007 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE New OPS head was instrumental in getting the sworn affadavit overturned as unconstitutional in Los Angeles.

10/26/2007 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The list of the 28 aldermen who are requesting the names of the P.O's with CR's need to be voted out. Also the names of the aldermen whe were once in a gang should be made public. Once a gangmember - Always a gangmember THUG!

10/26/2007 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought (someone correct me or weigh in) that a signed affidavit was required by state law (with no exceptions, except for anonymous complaints, i.e., residency, criminal conduct)...has something changed?

10/26/2007 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem for lay people on this whole 10 CR number is they don't understand the process. Hope this will help shed a little light on this issue.

1. The only people who REALLY want this issue in public are the lawyers who sue the city and the Aldermen who get a cut...

2. The list they are trying to get, for one is not public infomation. Two, it is for any officer who gets 10 CR#'s. Not CR#'s where an allegation is sustained. They want a list of anyone with 10 CR#'s. Most people do not know what a CR# is obtained for... Here are some examples:

1. An officer can get a CR# because he/she had an argument with another officer off duty and told him/her to fuck off.

4. An officer can get a CR# if he/she has a dispute (off duty) with a neighbor. Flips off an idiot during a traffic dispute, out of the city in his/her own personal car when the officer is the non aggressor.

5. An officer can get a CR# because he/she was told to shine his/her shoes and didn't.

6. Can get a CR# because a 3rd party made an allegation. YES, A 3 rd party.

7. Can get a CR# because of alleged brutality, verbal abuse, etc...

Once again, these are not findings of guilty, they are allegations most of which where probably never investigated because the person making the complaint either didn't sign the affidaved or refused to cooperate after they made the allegation.

If this so called list were to become published, this is a likely scenario...

Officer Smith arrests Donald Johnson for a domestic battery where Johnson's wife signed the complaints and there is evidence of injury and it is all caught on tape so there is no dispute. During this fight, Johnson falls and strikes his head causing a small bump and a scratch. Once at the station he gives a statement to his part in hitting his wife. He now is about to enter the lock-up and JOHNSON decides he would rather delay sleeping on a bench and tells the lock-up keeper he has to go to the hospital because he was injured. At the hospital Johnson tells the ER Doctor that the police struck him in the head with a baton. The DR. calls for a Supervisor and Johnson makes a complaint of police brutality. The Supervisor Must take that complaint. Now the officer has 1 CR#. No matter what the determination of the investigation, even with video, the officer now has a CR#. Now lets go a little further. Johnson decides after talking to a lawyer that the statement he made to the police about the original incident, even after he was aware of his rights, was not in his best interest. So to dicredit the officer and get the officer's personal information in paper and make him/her less likely to want to proceed with the case against him as a witness, he decides to have a handful of friends make bogus complaints against the officer.

They call in a complaint every day for 9 days saying they were stopped illegally, searched, and beaten by officer SMITH. That is now 10 complaints against the officer in 2 weeks. His name is now in the paper and his name is tarnished for no reason, without an investigation, and at the hands of a criminal and his friends. The fact that the original allegation was proven false by video and the fact that SMITH only worked 5 of the 9 days he allegedly victimizing citizens doesn't matter. What matters is the number of complaints against an officer.

If you work at a corperation and your main competition for a promotion has him and his friends start rumors about you stealing from the company and your company then publishes your name and these baseless allegations in the newspaper for your family and friends to see, Is it fair? Think about it...

10/26/2007 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems that the City that works will not follow laws. They will try to circumvent the law on affadavits and they will not prosecute those who file false reports.

Time for someone to look into this. It seems that we have a rogue administration on our hands,

10/26/2007 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.T I found this on FOX as i was looking at the news. How ironic that i said the same thing as well as more than a few other right minded people on the blog.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304806,00.html

Its the story of a group of students that are uniting to change campus rules saying that they want to be able to carry on campus to.... BIG SHOCKER...PROTECT THEMSELVES!!! Well lookout little HITLER DALEY the time has come for the law abiding citizen to be able to protect themselves as well. The gangs are pulling the strings of the ALDERTHIEVES and the store front REVS, that in turn ties the hands of the PO-LEESE to do the job that needs to be done. Little hitler why are you so afraid the average JOE has a handgun to protect himself??{and i dont mean the baggy pants variety of JOE} Are you afraid he might shoot the person trying to rob him? High taxes,land deals,ex-felons spending our money,STEALING OUR MONEY,PENSION,i could go on for a while but you get the idea!!! Maybe hes not as dumb as he looks?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
FEDUP

10/26/2007 02:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of this crap that we are living with could have been dealt with if we had a real union. 80% if this crap lies with the FOP not raising enough of a stink. Whenever they do, we win.
Fuck Donahue.

10/26/2007 04:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An agreement with the Police unions allows cr investigations to go forward without a signed sworn affidavit if the allegation is of "criminal nature". The problem with this agreement is almost all allegations can be seen as "criminal". Handcuff too tight - battery. Search and recover property without warrant or legal justification - theft or burglary. Detain suspect for field interview - unlawful restraint.
Remember to justify everything you do on official reports, and as always, be safe and protect your partner.

10/26/2007 05:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rule 14 - Don't make a false police report. Why are people crying about this?

10/26/2007 05:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Just the Working Police said...

I say post the names with one condition: you must also post the names of the complainants, as well as their criminal history. After all, aren't arrests that haven't been expunged supposed to be public knowledge anyway? Lets show the citizens exactly who is putting in these beefs and let them decide for themselves how one sided the media is concerning the CPD.

10/26/2007 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Henny Youngman said...

What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Neither. The rooster came first.

10/26/2007 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's good to know that FOP is out in front of this. Isn't it ironic that the new OPS boss is trying to violate state law and she's only been here a few months? She fits right in to this corrupt administration. What about prosecuting those who are found to have lied on the avadavat? So much for a fair and just system.

Also, while on a public way or in a public place, you can be filmed, recorded and photographed, it's the constitutional right of those filming. If it is used for profit, like if was on Americas Funniest Videos, they would have to get you to sign a release. So, be good.

Pallidin

10/26/2007 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to get or brothers and sisters to the scene. The Media should look into that!!

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"our brothers".

Not true.

10/26/2007 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No affidavit.....then the case is unfounded.....good f$%^ing BYE. This new OPS #@$%& is really going to be trouble. Go to all your jobs, write paper, etc. Then lunch, back each other up....don't take the job home with you...it will be there tomorrow with the same cast of buttholes.

10/26/2007 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Breaking News! Feds looking into construction fraud at Midway airport.

10/26/2007 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I SAY "TO STOP ALL THIS POLICE WRONGDOING, WHEN SOMEONE MAKES A COMPLAINT, THE P.O. SHOULD BE ASSIGNED TO DESK DUTY AT 35TH MICHIGAN HQ." THAT WAY ALL THOSE EMPTY DESKS WILL BE OCCUPIED BY POLICEMEN AND ALL THE DAYTIME DOLLIES WILL PATROL THE STREETS HANDING OUT PARKERS AND MOVERS WITH NO CR#S GENERATED CAUSE AFTERALL WHO WOULD MAKE A COMPLAINT ON A FEMALE W/ BLOND HAIR

10/26/2007 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always wondered why this guy was such a schill for the department. Now we know, a B.S. "spot" hawking the memorial and look at this salary. Murphy,Brian S Deputy Superintendent Dept Of Police $160,152 03/26/90 and its all public record right here. http://www.bettergov.org/Research/Employees.aspx

10/26/2007 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Citizens can videotape the police on the public way as much as they want...there's not much we can do about that.

10/26/2007 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is a FACT!! Therefore, no more bitching about our union


FOP is not a union. And why are they making us wait 9 more months for contract negotiations?

I heard that the contract has to wait, we have to give the city 9 months as a show of good faith. Well 9 months is a long time for me not to write parkers and movers. Also nothing will start intil we have a superintendant change. What the two have in common I have no idea. So save me the BS.

FOP should be barking up the city's ass but of course they wont. They dont want to make the city mad. BARF!

10/26/2007 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its simple people.. I havent had a CR # in over 5 years. I havent done police work in that long either.

Yea I know...Im useless Im a dog I am all the things that will not be when you get fired for making arrests. This city couldnt care less about us. So likewise I could care less about the city. The 1st & 16th, and all the rest can kiss my behind. Wake up for once.

I can not wait for the next time I get counseled about productivity. Its been over a year since the 1st one, and what I wrote on my response keeps the bosses off my back. The old days are gone.

10/26/2007 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE New OPS head was instrumental in getting the sworn affadavit overturned as unconstitutional in Los Angeles.

Supposedly FOP was aware of this and anticipated this happening sooner or later and went forward and made it part of the contract. As long as it is in the contract there's not a thing anyone can do about it even if the law is found unconstitutional. Well have to wait and see.

10/26/2007 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask anybody on the corner about the image of OPS and they'll tell you it's a do-nothing organization that protects police," Lyle said.

She added, "If the community thinks you're really independent, they may be willing to sign their names."
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THEY AREN'T SIGNING BECAUSE THEY ARE LYING AND MOST TIMES WHEN THEY DO SIGN THEY ARE LYING! SCC HOW ABOUT A POST SHOWING WHERE THESE 28 ALDERMAN ARE IN REGARDS TO POLICE DISTRICTS...SO WE KNOW WHERE NOT TO SERVE, BECAUSE I GUESS THE REGULAR FOLKS DON'T COUNT ANYMORE TO THESE THUGS IN SUITS.

10/26/2007 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: "OFF topic: Anyone who is a lawyer out there: What is the legality of these thugs getting up on police officers face with their damn cameras recording everything that the P.O.'s do on their calls????"

Not a lawyer but I have worked in the news media.

The basic rule is that anything in public view is fair game. As long as the person has a right to stand where they are they can video anything they can see.

To: "Ever call 911 Even if you make the mistake of iding yourself as a off duty cop they question you and it usually takes at least two calls..."

I strongly suggest that if you are involved in anything off duty like a traffic accident, and it is not a 10-1, DO NOT identify yourself as a P.O. to the call taker. If you may set in motion some inquiry by non-sympathetic exempts or news media if it gets on the air. Also avoid, if possible, identifying yourself as a P.O. to the other party. Don't wear CPD baseball caps or logo T-shirts. Be discrete, and do the best you can with the P.O. who arrives at the scene. If you handle a job with a P.O. involved be discrete about it, keep it off the air, off the PDTs and out of reports.

There was a traffic crash recently where a P.O. on his way to work was seriously injured when a F/4/18, made a bad turn. It was clearly her fault and she had no insurance. Of course she is suing him even though it is her fault, and may be trying to sue the city. Her lawyer made a motion to hold all the radio audio recordings because he wants to know if the P.O. was talking on a police radio at the time.

As ridiculous as this sounds, there is another reason for this. The lawyer wants to know if there were any conspiratorial plots hatched on the scene.

So watch what you say on the air or put on the PDT, remember that one of the things that sunk the LAPD cops who were attacked by Rodney King was their PDT comments.

One more thing about accident reports, get the body count right, even if "unknown fled the scene." That lawyer suing that O.D.P.O. added three passengers to the offender’s vehicle.

Stay safe.

10/26/2007 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

very simple if they give the names, i in fear of getting any cr's will do no work!

10/26/2007 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of this crap that we are living with could have been dealt with if we had a real union. 80% if this crap lies with the FOP not raising enough of a stink. Whenever they do, we win.
Fuck Donahue.

10/26/2007 04:27:00 AM

You, sir, are a complete moron. Did you lose a Union election? Were you kicked out of FOP? Stop posting here because your constant blaming the FOP for all of the world's problems is getting old. Shall we blame FOP because it has kept the City from disciplining its membership? Because it got CR by affidavit? Because it fights for your privacy rights in court? Because you are well paid and have excellent benefits? Because it got your pension enhanced? Shut your fucking piehole already! Better yet, start your own blog and see how much attention you get (none, I'm guessing). Then again, you are no doubt to stupid to actually accomplish anything.

10/26/2007 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im buying a small pin hole camera that fits on my star. U CANT EVEN SEE IT! I will be able to control the on and off switch and will be sure to get tape of many ghetto incidents to show the world how our city operates. Its alrready on order, cant wait for the bosses to shit themselves when they see my videos. Oh well, if the ghetto citizen rats can tape me, I WILL TAPE THEM TOO!!! Oh and the numerous media creatures that i intend to follow from their offices daily. Be carefull all, u never know who is watching. I love it!!

10/26/2007 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP WILL PROTECT CR BY AFFIDAVIT TOOTH AND NAIL!!!
10/25/2007 11:56:00 PM

NO THEY WON'T!!!!!!!!!!

Has FOP taken any action against the city for not prosecuting people who make false complaints with the affadavit? NO!!!

Has FOP blitzed the media with any complaints about this? NO!!!

FOP will just do what they are famous for- stumble around, play golf, and drink your dues money. Get off the Kool Aid. FOP will do nothing unless Daley tells them too.

10/26/2007 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

but I just do not believe that anyone can post shit about you without your consent. Anyone know what the laws to recording P.O's are??? I don't want to bother asking FOP - becaus I already know their answer - Nothing

10/26/2007 12:20:00 AM

There are some laws on the books regarding photography and video and making images public. You would have to seek out a media lawyer for the conditions.

There two issues at work here. One, is the image being used for comercial purposes- selling the tapes to the media for example. Two, and this is the tricky one; you are a public servant in the public eye- thus you can be fair game.

I would sek out an attorney representing photographers or videographers to get clarification on this.

10/26/2007 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know what the laws to recording P.O's are???
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same as they are regarding recording anyone else in public would be my guess.

i almost dread saying this, but some cops in other jurisdictions have started arresting people under the wiretapping laws. it makes those cops look even worse for doing so. cops use the "if you have nothing to hide" lie all the time. it seems only fair it get truned around on them now and then.

stand up tall. if you are doing nothing wrong, that will come through. if you are doing something wrong, that will come through too.

10/26/2007 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just the Working Police said...
I say post the names with one condition: you must also post the names of the complainants, as well as their criminal history. After all, aren't arrests that haven't been expunged supposed to be public knowledge anyway? Lets show the citizens exactly who is putting in these beefs and let them decide for themselves how one sided the media is concerning the CPD.

10/26/2007 06:24:00 AM

Very good idea1 then the public will see a) it is usually some rogue scum bag trying to cover illicit activity or get a law suit. b) it is the same people/families over and over.

10/26/2007 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know that our emergency response system is in trouble when you have to identify yourself as a po when you call in hopes that a car gets sent out...

10/26/2007 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

FOP WILL PROTECT CR BY AFFIDAVIT TOOTH AND NAIL!!! After all, FOP got it for us. Anyone that says otherwise is retarded and\or has some retarded political agenda. We are disciplined LESS than any on the largest cities in the U.S. That is a FACT!! Therefore, no more bitching about our union. They (FOP) actually got a brief with solid arguments filed in the Federal Appeals court last week while 28 alderman failed to do the same. If anything, our union seems to be EXTREMELY successful when it comes to discipline. It seems awfully stupid to throw rocks at the FOP when the media is constantly bitching in the papers and on TV that we are never disciplined. FOP has my vote, for sure.

10/25/2007 11:56:00 PM


PLEASE! We are the THIRD larges media market in the united states...when was the last time our union called a press conference? A quick call is all it would take next time there is a shooting, and 2,5,7,9,11,32,26, and even telemundo would arrive to hear OUR side of things... While the union is not worthless, they could certainly do much more to stick up for a lot of us who are prosecuted in the press...

10/26/2007 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

look at the top of the chain here daley! He really fucked this city but good! The runner according to reports was in ambulance from burbs but they got lost going to hospital! RIP officer! Again and again daley and the clown aldermen screw the citizens of the city that actually apy the bills great job idiots!

10/26/2007 12:17:00 AM



This is a case in point...where is FOP? They should be on the news at least MONTHLY giving a state of the dept address...

10/26/2007 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous spongebobsquarenutz said...

To: 10/26/2007 12:20:00 AM
No reasonable expectation of privacy on the public way regarding video. Audio on the other hand, touchy subject especially if it's civillians, who the last time I checked, do not have to conform to the 4th amendment like the "man" does.
To: 10/26/2007 05:48:00 AM
My brother, pop two ridalin and wash it down with a Lumpy Dog lager. IAD investigates all "criminal" investigations. All of your examples are handled (well the handcuff could go to OPS or whatever they will be called) at the district level. As a wise old salt told me once: if you can't have at least two good laughs a tour, find another line of work.

To: ALL. In regards to the signed affidavit. I've worked in two different Areas in patrol. In one of them, the Area chief wanted a full blown out investigation including your best attempt to identify the accused, which is WRONG, without a signed affidavit, and the finding was to be UNFOUNDED. The other, no sworn affidavit, the fat lady crooned the death knell. Start putting pressure on FOP to address the issue so a standard is put on paper and to all who get the UNFOUNDED half sheet and were never given their administrative rights or had to drop paper as an accused, raise holy hell with your respective CBU. Stay safe!

10/26/2007 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who are the aldermen who are demanding the names of officers who are accused, sustained or not in all those CRs? Let's publish their names, ward numbers along with their office addresses and phone numbers here.

I could go down the list of 50 and pick out probably 26-27 of them.

And if the officer's names are published, so should the names of the accusers with their criminal history. Maybe the criminal history of the aldermen too, but that has probably been expunged.

The Office of Political Standards, new leader or not, will not have any creditability until they prosecute citizens for making false complaints.

10/26/2007 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with "just the working Police". Good point. Show the lack of charter of the people making the complaints. Anyone check out the Scum-Times about the Forest Park Sergeant?

10/26/2007 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey rumor has it that since Lt Richie Scotchbreath and Sgt Terry McScam left 022 that tums stock is on the decline since Garrity doesn't need it. Does Schmidt need to invest in tums now. It was nice to see the city put a sattelite office for 008 in 022. A certain bar on 111th where scotchbreath and mcscam hang out, and do their best impression of rick flair. Schmidt should stop by to catch the show. Now that merit picks are coming around again, will these two climb again. In 022 McScam told everybody how he was Garrity's pick, let's see if Schmidt puts him in. After all McScam and Scotchbreath were bringing the two search warrant tact convicts from here in 022 to 008, oh yeah, before they got indicted. How much of the moolah did these two get. Hey does 008 have the same pop fund we had in 022, or should we say the scotchbreath, mcscam retirement fund. Schmidt has been in the lead chair for pretty long now, when is he gonna drop the axe. Maybe he should talk to Garrity, news was that Garrity had to eat scotchbreath, and mcscam as a favor. When they left, IAD stormed in, hmmmmm?

10/26/2007 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC: Aldermen Tom Tunney voted "yes" in 2005 on the proposal to create an ordinance making it illegal to talk on a cell phone while driving a car in Chicago. Yet he's outraged that he gets ticketed for violating a law he supported and wants enforced on motorists, as long as he's not that motorist. When questioned he admits that he then called the 023rd District commander and beefs about getting a ticket. Then he admits that a police officer returned his license to him later that day. Can you belive the arrogance of this jagoff? He voted for the stupid law. It's just like when first lady Hillary Clinton wanted to force socialized medicine down our throats during Bill's presidency. Though it never became law, the bill said members of the federal government were exempt. Classic "Do as I say, not as I do".

10/26/2007 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't blame the Niles crew for this OEMC fuck up. The city should have had a staging area for all outside agencies offering "mutal aid." Once at the staging area, each unit should have been designated a P.O./fireman to ride with said unit so that they had a radio and someone who knew the area.

10/26/2007 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC:

Excerpt from story in today's tribune:

Atheist's daughter challenges school moment-of-silence law.

A 14-year-old suburban girl and her dad, atheist activist Rob Sherman, filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court Friday that challenges the constitutionality of a law requiring Illinois public schools to observe a moment of silence.
Sherman and his daughter Dawn, a freshman at Buffalo Grove High School, contend that the law providing for "silent prayer or for silent reflection on the anticipated activities of the day" runs afoul of the constitutional separation of church and state.

entire store @ http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-silentsuit_weboct27,1,5424903.story
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I'm starting to relize, unfortunately, that all of the things I love and admire about this country are things that either no longer exist here or are on their way out. I.E. morals, values, ethics, patriotism, self reliance/determination, etc. What happened to all of the real people? When did this become bizaro world? I was born in the wrong century!

10/26/2007 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the names of the Judges and how they voted, it would be nice to know who is connected or how? Names please.

10/26/2007 04:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the FOP can get into Federal court they always have a change, yet any case in the lower courts forget it. Mayor Daley owns them. along with his brothers Bill and John. Perhaps Ann Burke will be fair. Who Knows?

10/26/2007 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE New OPS head was instrumental in getting the sworn affadavit overturned as unconstitutional in Los Angeles.


WHAT BULL: NO WAY

10/26/2007 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of this crap that we are living with could have been dealt with if we had a real union. 80% if this crap lies with the FOP not raising enough of a stink. Whenever they do, we win.
Fuck Donahue.


I'm not a fan of Donahue's however You guys have to understand the court system.the cook county court system is political they are elected. Insofar as they are concerned they would not be elected without the help of Mayor Daley. As its stands now sitting judges on the court are friends of Daleys or his two Brothers William and John, Our Mayor was the boss of numerous asst states attorneys who are now judges and we have two alderman under Daley who are Judges along with numerous city employees who became Judges. These Judges owe Mayor Daley they will not rule in favor of any lawsuit against the city. You guys are always crying sue if you think its that easy go ahead and piss your money away. Daley will have one of the mob Attorneys handle the case so he can make money.

10/26/2007 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The mayor has decided to rename the Office of Professional Standards (OPS). His short list includes:

(1) Office of Political Standards

(2) Summerdale

(3) Personnel Inquisition for Mandatory Persecution & Sadism (PIMPS)

(4) Federation for Unified Clout & Kangaroos (FUCK)

10/26/2007 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Father Tomasino said...

Off topic:

Lisa Montgomery - the piece of shit that killed a pregnant woman and then cut a baby from her womb to pass off as her own - was given the death sentence by a federal jury.

God Bless America! At least at the Federal level, we're still not afraid to dispense some good old fashioned justice!

Hey Blago: You claim to be pro-capital punishment! Lift the moratorium you pussy!

10/26/2007 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The list of the 28 aldermen who are requesting the names of the P.O's with CR's need to be voted out. Also the names of the aldermen whe were once in a gang should be made public. Once a gangmember - Always a gangmember THUG!

10/26/2007 12:49:00 AM

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Let's start with congressman Bobby Rush (gangbanger then and now)

10/26/2007 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone mentioned recording other people's conversation without their consent. Eavesdropping in Illinois. There is no one party consent without a Court Order (COH)> It is a felony.
Police organizations have been trying to change the law for at least ten years. The politicians do not want that. Always blocked in the House at the state level. Many other states have one party consents without a court order. Sometimes they only require notification to the SA. There is one exception and that is officer safety.

10/26/2007 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always wondered why this guy was such a schill for the department. Now we know, a B.S. "spot" hawking the memorial and look at this salary. Murphy,Brian S Deputy Superintendent Dept Of Police $160,152 03/26/90 and its all public record right here. http://www.bettergov.org/Research/Employees.aspx

10/26/2007 08:40:00 AM

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Who's Brian Murphy? I thought Sgt. Mike Murphy was the guy "hawking" the memorial.

Either way, that pay seems excessive!

10/26/2007 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE! We are the THIRD larges media market in the united states...when was the last time our union called a press conference? A quick call is all it would take next time there is a shooting, and 2,5,7,9,11,32,26, and even telemundo would arrive to hear OUR side of things... While the union is not worthless, they could certainly do much more to stick up for a lot of us who are prosecuted in the press...

10/26/2007 11:59:00 AM

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Yesterday..Dipshit!

Next question.

10/26/2007 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wrong Murphy you idiot, and where the hell does Brian Murphy the "Deputy Superintendent" of police work. Can someone please tell me where this bullshit position is? At City hall?

10/26/2007 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous pissed off again said...

Well if they want our history, they should have to post the disiplinary history of all city employees.

Starting with the elected officials, including their criminal history, gang affiliation and any disiplinary problems. They are the ones elected and responsible to the voters.

Let's see the Aldercreatures, history.

Traffic, criminal, domestic, attendance and city council voting history.

I have been trying to get the street fixed in front of my house that caved in over a year ago. It caused yet another accident today. Have been to the aldermans office to many times to count, have called 311 every week for the last year and nothing. Who do we complaint to when an Alderman or the city just refuses to their job.

Most of these Aldermen would have 10 CR# complaints in 1 fucken day.

The Police are just employees like the garbage men.

I agree with the above poster if they make the CR files public, the crimnal history and gang affil. of the accuser and in addition to, the amount of complaints that person has made against the Police should be posted on the same page.

Pass a city ordinace that states the two must alway be displayed together and in it's original form.

Because you know the press will only show the officers names and information.

A persons criminal history is not confidential under the law. except if a juvenile. If mama is the complainant then post hers.

Hey FOP will we see you at the next city council meeting addressing these issues or are you going to let the city stick it our butts again???

Do you know that most of the store front churches including the House of Dope, Oh sorry Rev. Meeks I meant the House of Hope, hold workshops on how to make a complaint agianst the Police. They also provide a list of lawyers that will take a case against the city with no money up front.

sorry about the long rant!

10/26/2007 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Citizens can videotape the police on the public way as much as they want...there's not much we can do about that.

10/26/2007 08:49:00 AM
Sure there is...just last month...an honor role student and his classmates, shoved a video camera in my face.....so, I pulled out my cell phone and pointed it at the unrulely crowd and the unthinkable happened.....the honor role student stopped filming...no shit. they thought I was filming all of them...let's start turning the tables on them.

10/26/2007 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So to dicredit the officer and get the officer's personal information in paper and make him/her less likely to want to proceed with the case against him as a witness, he decides to have a handful of friends make bogus complaints against the officer. They call in a complaint every day for 9 days saying they were stopped illegally, searched, and beaten by officer SMITH. That is now 10 complaints against the officer in 2 weeks.

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Wouldn't it be nice if they would put that much effort into finding a legitimate job?

10/26/2007 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey rumor has it that since Lt Richie Scotchbreath and Sgt Terry McScam left 022 that tums stock is on the decline since Garrity doesn't need it. Does Schmidt need to invest in tums now. It was nice to see the city put a sattelite office for 008 in 022. A certain bar on 111th where scotchbreath and mcscam hang out, and do their best impression of rick flair. Schmidt should stop by to catch the show. Now that merit picks are coming around again, will these two climb again. In 022 McScam told everybody how he was Garrity's pick, let's see if Schmidt puts him in. After all McScam and Scotchbreath were bringing the two search warrant tact convicts from here in 022 to 008, oh yeah, before they got indicted. How much of the moolah did these two get. Hey does 008 have the same pop fund we had in 022, or should we say the scotchbreath, mcscam retirement fund. Schmidt has been in the lead chair for pretty long now, when is he gonna drop the axe. Maybe he should talk to Garrity, news was that Garrity had to eat scotchbreath, and mcscam as a favor. When they left, IAD stormed in, hmmmmm?

10/26/2007 01:32:00 PM

Tune in tomorrow for....as the stomach churns.

10/26/2007 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old FOID card expired..Got the new one today. It's all high tech looking now.

It is no longer a laminated piece of paper. It's plastic..like a driver's license with a hologram on it.
**********************************(sarcastic tone of voice)

I guess they had to change the design, after it was discovered (during a federal raid) that a certain chicago alder"person's" family was making "fake" one's out of their photo studio business!

(Legal disclaimer)Just kidding! I can joke right? Public figure and all that? Oh wait..maybe that was Brittany Spears..Oh shit!..Nevermind!

Bueller..Bueller..Bueller?!!

10/26/2007 07:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I SAY IF THE LADY FROM DA NEW OPS GETS THIS AFFIDAVIT OVERTURNED "WE SHALL CALL FOR A BULLS RIOT AND OVERTURN HER ON HER FRONT SIDE"

10/26/2007 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.lapdonline.org/internal_affairs_group/content_basic_view/9221\

nothing about the complaint being sworn

10/26/2007 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone have a list of which 28 aldermen were the ones who were attempting to get the C.R. list made public? SOMEONE has to have it! It would make for interesting reading......
BE SAFE!!!

10/26/2007 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous grimreaper said...

city can't even control one mishap - tragedy at a marathon yet says it is prepared with emergency response if a terrorist attack occurs? Wow, I've got some great land for sale in New Orleans for anyone who believes this s*i#. Citizens, kiss your asses GoodBye!!!

10/26/2007 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous grimreaper said...

I would suggest that any P.O. who gets a citizens camera stuck in his face while doing his job make an arrest of that person for Obstructing, as it is interefering with the situation at hand, and can be all the distraction necessary to get a P.O. killed or seriously injured by this distraction. If a judge wants to throw it out in court, so be it. At least you'll go home alive and well to your families.

10/26/2007 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I CAN'T WAIT TO QUIT AND MOVE OUT OF THIS HELLHOLE CALLED CHICAGO...

10/26/2007 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vote for Tony perica for State's Attorney if he runs. See DemocRATS go scurrying like rats off a sinking ship.

10/26/2007 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm starting to relize, unfortunately, that all of the things I love and admire about this country are things that either no longer exist here or are on their way out. I.E. morals, values, ethics, patriotism, self reliance/determination, etc. What happened to all of the real people? When did this become bizaro world? I was born in the wrong century!

10/26/2007 03:25:00 PM

You are not alone in your values or thinking. We or most of us were brought up differently than most in power today were. We were told to behave ourselves,don't intentionally hurt someone,speak when spoken to,repect the police,work hard and believe in God. Sad to say,most institutions and leaders, we were led to believe cared for us and our well being, turned out to be infatuated with power and greed. Our so called leaders in government,law enforcement and sadly the church,have proven to be only out for themselves and their thieving cohorts. Our agency and local government spews lie after lie. In the end it will be the public's apathy and ignorance that will doom our society.

If its any consolation,believe in yourself. No one can take your morals,beliefs,ethics,patriotism,
and determination from you. Find comfort in the fact that there are still some of us on our job that continue to act ethical and moral in spite of the fact that we are surrounded by inept,unprincipled and deceitful persons in our agency and government.

10/26/2007 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Just the Working Police said...
I say post the names with one condition: you must also post the names of the complainants, as well as their criminal history. After all, aren't arrests that haven't been expunged supposed to be public knowledge anyway? Lets show the citizens exactly who is putting in these beefs and let them decide for themselves how one sided the media is concerning the CPD.

10/26/2007 06:24:00 AM

Very good idea1 then the public will see a) it is usually some rogue scum bag trying to cover illicit activity or get a law suit. b) it is the same people/families over and over.

10/26/2007 11:52:00 AM

Do you really think this will affect some change? I'll give you one example...bobby rush 1.Minister of defense for a gang advocating the killing of police 2. his deceased off spring was a two pager of illicit activity 3. in case your not up with current events he has been a legislator for several terms.

10/26/2007 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All police unions are BS.They just want your money and do very little for it.

10/26/2007 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE! We are the THIRD larges media market in the united states...when was the last time our union called a press conference? A quick call is all it would take next time there is a shooting, and 2,5,7,9,11,32,26, and even telemundo would arrive to hear OUR side of things... While the union is not worthless, they could certainly do much more to stick up for a lot of us who are prosecuted in the press...

10/26/2007 11:59:00 AM

The last time the FOP called a press conference was YESTERDAY at 10:30 a.m., after the aldermen's stupid attempt to get the list of officers with ten or more CR's. It was televised as early as the WGN news at noon that same day. Also, Mark Donahue was on am 720 this morning with Spike O'Dell defending the lot of you who are prosecuted by the press. The FOP has done far more than anyone else on the issue. Throwing rocks and bitching is easy. There seems to be one or two posters here that have a hair up their ass about the FOP. Screw them. If you have something constructive to add to the debate, call FOP or let them know about it. They seem reasonable to me.

10/26/2007 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/26/2007 04:45:00 PM

Mind boggling, isn't it?

10/26/2007 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP will just do what they are famous for- stumble around, play golf, and drink your dues money. Get off the Kool Aid. FOP will do nothing unless Daley tells them too.

10/26/2007 11:11:00 AM

Hey Kool Aid Kid,

You are a stupid fucking asshole. Think Daley told FOP do do an audit and file a lawsuit in a case that resulted in over $25 million refunded to retirees? That very case may have cost the City $100 million or more over the course of ten years? Think Daley told FOP to do it? Huh, Retard? I can't hear you. While you're at it, do you think that Daley hatched the FLSA lawsuit that the Lodge recently won in Federal Court? Two-thousands officers participated, but you were probably too busy jerking off at your computer or scared to take a stand with your brothers and sisters. It will take a while, but that lawsuit should really bring some positive change. Do you think it was Daley's idea? Really? Cuz if you do, you are alone in your own little retard world, population: 1, and there is nothing we can do to help. However, if you don't really believe that Daley runs the FOP (and I suspect that you don't) then please kill yourself you worthless shit disturber.

10/26/2007 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aldermen Tom Tunney voted "yes" in 2005 on the proposal to create an ordinance making it illegal to talk on a cell phone while driving a car in Chicago.
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Um, idiot, maybe yous should like read the ordinance. Aldermen, like cops are exempt from the ordinance. In effect Tunney got a ticket for something he does not have to comply with.

Oh, and this is one of the dumbest ordinance ever passed by the council. Which is why I never, ever, enforce it. Just like I never lock up a business owner for a uuw.

10/26/2007 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

******off topic*****

Can somebody fill me in on the Northside Dog snatcher? Did you catch him?

10/26/2007 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im buying a small pin hole camera that fits on my star. U CANT EVEN SEE IT! I will be able to control the on and off switch and will be sure to get tape of many ghetto incidents to show the world how our city operates. Its alrready on order, cant wait for the bosses to shit themselves when they see my videos.
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Maybe you should read the General Orders. You are not allowed to have a camera or video recorder while on duty. If you take poictures with your cell phone you are in the wrong.

All you are going to do is get yourself jammed up. Oh, and you better read up on the first amendment too. If you secretly tape people and disseminate the tape you are probably going to prison. When they have a party for you, I will provide the soap on a rope.

10/26/2007 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: 10/26/2007 08:40:00 AM
Brian Murphy does not work for the Police Memorial you moron. He took a leave from the department in about 2000. He was a deputy sup in bureau of electricity, now he's some type of boss at city hall. I think he's like a "deputy mayor" or some equivalent position like that. I looked up his salary, and you are right. He makes 160 a year. Don't know why he's being carried as still from the police department, but I know he works as a civilian in city hall. He was a great copper when I knew him, and well liked as a sgt and lt I heard.

10/26/2007 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG who wants to send this to Daley??

www.assinthebox.com

10/26/2007 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about prosecting OPS ivestigators who violate state law. If there is a law that is to be followed and they violate it that is a crimnal offense.

10/26/2007 10:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley's noose is tighening read Kass' article in the Tribune Friday 26th.

10/26/2007 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/26/2007 09:49:00 PM

Hey FOP stooge: The FOP is SUPPOSE to do those things. It's what we pay them for. You did know that we pay them right? They have been extremely soft on Daley and our Alderman. Watch for them to be taken care of when we vote them out.

10/27/2007 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Vote for Tony Peraica for State's Attorney if he runs. See DemocRATS go scurrying like rats off a sinking ship."

Funny as all hell, and SO TRUE!!!

10/27/2007 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe you should read the General Orders. You are not allowed to have a camera or video recorder while on duty. If you take poictures with your cell phone you are in the wrong.

All you are going to do is get yourself jammed up. Oh, and you better read up on the first amendment too. If you secretly tape people and disseminate the tape you are probably going to prison. When they have a party for you, I will provide the soap on a rope.

A citizen can be video taped on the public way as well, no expectation of privacy! just like all the marches downtown, the department tapes them too, flip on your cell video and put it right back on them! that G.O was written before cell cams and video.

10/27/2007 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brian Murphy has a career service rank of Lieutenant and is currently the Deputy Superintendent in charge of the Mayor's body guard detail.

10/27/2007 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
TO: 10/26/2007 08:40:00 AM
Brian Murphy does not work for the Police Memorial you moron. He took a leave from the department in about 2000. He was a deputy sup in bureau of electricity, now he's some type of boss at city hall. I think he's like a "deputy mayor" or some equivalent position like that. I looked up his salary, and you are right. He makes 160 a year. Don't know why he's being carried as still from the police department, but I know he works as a civilian in city hall. He was a great copper when I knew him, and well liked as a sgt and lt I heard.

10/26/2007 10:20:00 PM

ok brian stop it! why are you taking from police payroll? Is huberman still on police also? maybe because police returns huge amounts back to the general fund every year because we have few officers and extra $$$ Not to count all the junk cars we drive and broken computers! this city is becoming another detroit daley will run it into the ground as usual!

10/27/2007 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The last time the FOP called a press conference was YESTERDAY at 10:30 a.m., after the aldermen's stupid attempt to get the list of officers with ten or more CR's. It was televised as early as the WGN news at noon that same day. Also, Mark Donahue was on am 720 this morning with Spike O'Dell defending the lot of you who are prosecuted by the press. The FOP has done far more than anyone else on the issue. Throwing rocks and bitching is easy. There seems to be one or two posters here that have a hair up their ass about the FOP. Screw them. If you have something constructive to add to the debate, call FOP or let them know about it. They seem reasonable to me.

10/26/2007 09:35:00 PM

CALL THEM? WTF! THEY DON'T ANSWER THE PHONES BUT HAVE A GIRL ANSWER WITH THE LINE "HOLD ON LET ME SEE IF XYZ IS IN, OH SORRY THEY JUST STEPPED OUT AND WILL CALL YOU RIGHT BACK"! THEY ARE THERE BUT NEVER CALL BACK SHOOT AN EMAIL AND STILL NO RESPONSE YOU SIR/MA'AM ARE A MAJOR ASSHAT!

10/27/2007 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Hey rumor has it that since Lt Richie Scotchbreath and Sgt Terry McScam left 022 that tums stock is on the decline since Garrity doesn't need it. Does Schmidt need to invest in tums now. It was nice to see the city put a sattelite office for 008 in 022. A certain bar on 111th where scotchbreath and mcscam hang out, and do their best impression of rick flair. Schmidt should stop by to catch the show. Now that merit picks are coming around again, will these two climb again. In 022 McScam told everybody how he was Garrity's pick, let's see if Schmidt puts him in. After all McScam and Scotchbreath were bringing the two search warrant tact convicts from here in 022 to 008, oh yeah, before they got indicted. How much of the moolah did these two get. Hey does 008 have the same pop fund we had in 022, or should we say the scotchbreath, mcscam retirement fund. Schmidt has been in the lead chair for pretty long now, when is he gonna drop the axe. Maybe he should talk to Garrity, news was that Garrity had to eat scotchbreath, and mcscam as a favor. When they left, IAD stormed in, hmmmmm?

10/26/2007 01:32:00 PM

Hold on there! Leo cannot even remember who he sold the junk gym to, as reported in the southtown but he will remember to promote who pays?

10/27/2007 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pissed off again said...
Well if they want our history, they should have to post the disiplinary history of all city employees.

Starting with the elected officials, including their criminal history, gang affiliation and any disiplinary problems. They are the ones elected and responsible to the voters.

Let's see the Aldercreatures, history.

Traffic, criminal, domestic, attendance and city council voting history.

I have been trying to get the street fixed in front of my house that caved in over a year ago. It caused yet another accident today. Have been to the aldermans office to many times to count, have called 311 every week for the last year and nothing. Who do we complaint to when an Alderman or the city just refuses to their job.

Most of these Aldermen would have 10 CR# complaints in 1 fucken day.

The Police are just employees like the garbage men.

I agree with the above poster if they make the CR files public, the crimnal history and gang affil. of the accuser and in addition to, the amount of complaints that person has made against the Police should be posted on the same page.

Pass a city ordinace that states the two must alway be displayed together and in it's original form.

Because you know the press will only show the officers names and information.

A persons criminal history is not confidential under the law. except if a juvenile. If mama is the complainant then post hers.

Hey FOP will we see you at the next city council meeting addressing these issues or are you going to let the city stick it our butts again???

Do you know that most of the store front churches including the House of Dope, Oh sorry Rev. Meeks I meant the House of Hope, hold workshops on how to make a complaint agianst the Police. They also provide a list of lawyers that will take a case against the city with no money up front.

sorry about the long rant!

10/26/2007 07:13:00 PM

I love it.

As a regular reader, I've been wondering how long it was going to take all of you to realize that, 1: as police, you know all the secrets. ALL the secrets. Post them. 2: The above post displays the logical direction of this forum, which is, to organize the information you have and make it public. It's the hallmark of your existence if you have not realized this already.

What are you all waiting for? The natural direction of this blog is to reveal what you know, reveal what the politicians, media and Reverends routinely hide, reveal their "private" lives, their true selves. Criminal history is public record, is it not? I'm not advocating maliciousness. I'm simply saying that those in power don't deserve to present a public face when their private life contradicts what they pretend to stand for. They don't get to stand up and lie knowing full well their actions are inconsistent with the policies they craft and create which affect me, you and everybody but them. (.e.g., Tom Tunney).

Let's face it, everyone is reading this blog. Everyone. People like me who have known all along they are getting screwed over but had no proof, no voice or avenue of creating change. The media who are trolling for stories. The FOP who do nothing for you and the politicians who have gotten away with their greed, hypocrisy, self-serving business arrangements and relationship to criminal organizations. Reading and scrolling, reading and scrolling because they are shitting as to what will hit the sunlight next.

I'm hoping that the above post is just the beautiful beginning to what can possibly be the best thing that has ever happened to decent, law-abiding citizens and taxpayers. This forum is an agent of change. Organize yourselves, your information and make it public.

There's a wealth of knowledge and talent on this board. Put it to good use. Show them. Show them all the true meaning of justice.

It's a joy to watch you grow and mature in your consciousness, it really is (s).

10/27/2007 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, and this is one of the dumbest ordinance ever passed by the council. Which is why I never, ever, enforce it. Just like I never lock up a business owner for a uuw.

10/26/2007 10:09:00 PM

You are good policeman.Too bad the rest are beyond help.

10/27/2007 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEy buddy, If they can tape me, I can tape them. I dont give a flying fuck about GO's im going to leave this shithole anyways. But im going to make the city waste a lot of money on their attorneys trying to fire me before I decide to pull it. FUCK THEM AND YOU for kissing their ass and worrying about GO's

10/27/2007 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A citizen can be video taped on the public way as well, no expectation of privacy! just like all the marches downtown, the department tapes them too, flip on your cell video and put it right back on them! that G.O was written before cell cams and video.

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While I think that the original poster was being sarcastic, I would like to comment on this video taping stuff. It is true, there is no expectation of privacy on a public street, or in public in general. That does not apply to audio however as Illinois is a two party consent state. Law enforcement can video and audio record traffic stops, because it is common knowledge that the officers are wearing mikes and using cameras, and courts have ruled on the legality of those recordings. Also as far as having cameras and recorders in the car. It does not matter when the order was written, either before or after any technological innovations. The order says no devices, it's no devices. Period. If you have them, and who doesn't given cell phones with cameras, you run a risk if caught. So use them at your own risk. I am going to guess that this rule exists because at sometime in the past someone had some sort of device and mis-used it. As usual, our own worst enemy is-us!

10/27/2007 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The alderman who are requesting that list should get something besides the list. P.O.s who work in those wards should cease all police activity immediately. Who knows you could actually be trying to help people who live in those areas and your name gets put on that list. Your better off doing nothing than you will have nothing to fear.

10/27/2007 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EAch Dist already has a copy of the list,The commanders have it..Now what do they do with it.Now being part of the 662,what are my options.wait till the list hit the news and hope to sue.If i have to sue,then i will quit and go do somthing else..The dept has to set of rules,One for us and one for them..Im done..so if you see one of us 662,Dont think we are dogs,We use to be the poice,

10/27/2007 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the jagballs that says aldermen are exempt from the cell phone law-WRONG. Neither are police. The exception to the law for aldermen or police is if they are using a cell phone and driving while in the performamnce of their official duties. Tunney admitted he was breaking the law and said he would mail in his check. Get your facts straight.

10/27/2007 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brian Murphy is a lieutenant, still on CPD payroll as a Deputy Supt for pension purposes. He's actually a Deputy Commissioner at the Water Dept, I believe. Bright guy who is one of Daley's favorites. Watch for him to be considered as 1st Deputy Supt, particularly if new Supt is black.

10/27/2007 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The following are the alderman who filed petition in Federal Court to have
> the list of the names of police officers with 10 or more CR numbers in a 5year
> period is released to them for their review before the appeal process has
> been utilized:


> Alderman Manuel Flores 1st Ward
> Alderman Robert Fioretti 2nd Ward
> Alderman Pat Dowell 3rd Ward
> Alderman Toni Preckwinkle 4th Ward
> Alderman Leslie Hairston 5th Ward
> Alderman Fredrenna Lyle 6th Ward
> Alderman Sandi Jackson 7th Ward
> Alderman Michelle Harris 8th Ward
> Alderman Anthony Beale 9th Ward
> Alderman Toni Foulkes 15th Ward
> Alderman Joann Thompson 16th Ward
> Alderman Latasha Thomas 17th Ward
> Alderman Lona Lane 18th Ward
> Alderman Willie Cochran 20th Ward
> Alderman Howard Brookins Jr 21st Ward
> Alderman Ricardo Munoz 22nd Ward
> Alderman Sharon Denise Dixon 24th Ward
> Alderman Billy Ocasio 26th Ward
> Alderman Walter Burnett Jr 27th Ward
> Alderman Ed Smith 28th Ward
> Alderman Scott Waguespack 32nd Ward
> Alderman Carrie Austin 34th Ward
> Alderman Rey Colon 35th Ward
> Alderman Emma Mitts 37th Ward
> Alderman Bendan Reilly 42nd Ward
> Alderman Thomas M Tunney 44th Ward
> Alderman Helen Schiller 46th Ward
> Alderman Joseph A Moore 49th Ward
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10/27/2007 06:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He makes 160 a year. Don't know why he's being carried as still from the police department, but I know he works as a civilian in city hall."

HEAR THAT TAPPING ON YOUR SKULL? THAT'S BRIAN TELLING YOU TO GET OFF YOUR KNEES. NEWSFLASH ASSHAT, HE'S STILL IN OUR PENSION FUND AS IS HUBERMAN. LIKE THE FACT THEY'LL BE COLLECTING 75% FROM OUR PENSION FUND WELL INTO 6 FIGURES MORON?

10/27/2007 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aldermen Tom Tunney voted "yes" in 2005 on the proposal to create an ordinance making it illegal to talk on a cell phone while driving a car in Chicago.
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Um, idiot, maybe yous should like read the ordinance. Aldermen, like cops are exempt from the ordinance. In effect Tunney got a ticket for something he does not have to comply with.

Oh, and this is one of the dumbest ordinance ever passed by the council. Which is why I never, ever, enforce it. Just like I never lock up a business owner for a uuw.

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Okay Tunney lover..how about this one then?

He "weighed in"

on the controversy earlier in the week regarding gay's trolling or cruising near a lake front "birdwatching area" for illicit sex, in his ward.

Signs are posted warning people to stay on designated trails etc. But the media went off into the bushes and found used condoms, dildos, buttplugs, etc.

Citizens have complained. Police have arrested some people for indecency and the like.

Tunney's response was similar to the cellphone controversy.

He in effect said the police should be enforcing real laws and catching real criminals, not harrassing people for engaging in something that has been going on for a hundred years.

No shit I couldn't believe what I was reading. I think it was in the Tribune.

So in addition to being alder-scum, he is a degenerate!

Fuck him!..oh wait, shit he might think that's an offer for anonymous sex!

DELETE..BACKSPACE..ESC..(Panic setting in)..CRAP! JUST YANK THE POWERCORD FROM THE WALL!!!

POWER OFF..(Phew, that was close!)

10/27/2007 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Brian Murphy is a lieutenant, still on CPD payroll as a Deputy Supt for pension purposes. He's actually a Deputy Commissioner at the Water Dept, I believe. Bright guy who is one of Daley's favorites. Watch for him to be considered as 1st Deputy Supt, particularly if new Supt is black.

10/27/2007 05:35:00 PM

He deserves it. Hopefully he didn't change. He was a helluva copper in 007.

10/27/2007 09:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He deserves it. Hopefully he didn't change. He was a helluva copper in 007.

10/27/2007 09:47:00 PM"

SIGNED BRIAN MURPHY POLITICO HACK PENSION THIEF...

10/28/2007 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Police are just employees like the garbage men."

About the single dumbest statement I have ever heard. You are truly a fucking idiot.

10/28/2007 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a wealth of knowledge and talent on this board. Put it to good use. Show them. Show them all the true meaning of justice.

It's a joy to watch you grow and mature in your consciousness, it really is (s).

10/27/2007 10:55:00 AM

Yes, no doubt the "true meaning of justice" is found in nasty anonymous rumors. That'll show em. Nothing like a putting a nasty rumor out there to help you "grow and mature in your consciousness."

Ladies and Gentlemen, as a general proposition, I love the police. Hence, I feel compelled to comment on this blog. It is true that the news media and the print media read it. I have friends at three of the five major local TV networks and one print reporter at the allegedly conservative paper in town. They love SCC. They will NEVER criticize this blog because it sometimes contains allegations that are actually factual and they find it useful as a place to ask questions about rumors to see if they are true.

Nevertheless, to a man (and woman), each of them thinks this blog makes the police look terrible. By that, they mean stupid, lazy, racist, conspiratorial, xenophobic and just downright nasty. They love it. Reading this blog makes their daily police bashing a whole lot easier because its contents (like the above post) make Chicago Police Officers look like fools. Don't believe it? Call a Sun-Times or a Trib reporter and ask. Call 2, 5, 7, 9 or Fox and ask.

10/28/2007 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous to-ihavefriendsatTVstations said...

10/28/2007 07:35:00 PM

you lost me at "I am friends with people who work at news stations in Chicago"

You would think, if you read this blog, you would start to WAKE UP and see what is REALLY around you. The way this city REALLY works.
oh, and your friends at the TV stations...are retards.

10/28/2007 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Reality Checker said...

Now, why would any self-respecting human being, cop or not, call ANYONE in the media, print or broadcast, and ask them ANYTHING?

When we want to be lied to, we'll ask questions of to those other, low-life creatures, our elected officials.

After all, we PAY them to lie to us.

10/28/2007 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Don't believe it? Call a Sun-Times or a Trib reporter and ask. Call 2, 5, 7, 9 or Fox and ask.

10/28/2007 07:35:00 PM"

I CALLED THE SUN-TIMES ASKED FOR FRAN SPIELMAN, WAS TOLD SHE'S @ CITY HALL TAKING "DICKTATION".

10/28/2007 11:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People screaming about this Brian Murphy guy or Hubberman being carried on our pension roll are getting worked up over nothing. Everyone pays 9% of their salary into the police pension if they are on the police department payroll. If these guys are making double what you make, they pay double into the pension. I hate Daley, but this really is not hurting us at all. We as taxpayers would be paying their pensions if they were carried on another city department payroll anyway.

10/29/2007 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to-ihavefriendsatTVstations said...
10/28/2007 07:35:00 PM

you lost me at "I am friends with people who work at news stations in Chicago"

You would think, if you read this blog, you would start to WAKE UP and see what is REALLY around you. The way this city REALLY works.
oh, and your friends at the TV stations...are retards.

10/28/2007 09:27:00 PM
THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS! IF YOUR GIVING THEM INFO, YOU COULD BE THE NEXT INDICTED! NONE CAN BE TRUSTED THE ONLY 1 THAT TAKES UP OUR CAUSE IS JOHN KASS AT THE TRIBUNE THE OTHERS ARE ALL MEDIA WHORES! CBS2 TURNED ON NBC5 AMY JACOBSEN THEY TURN ON THEIR OWN BE CAREFUL!

10/29/2007 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reading this blog makes their daily police bashing a whole lot easier because its contents (like the above post) make Chicago Police Officers look like fools.

10/28/2007 07:35:00 PM

Does it really? That was my post---and I'm not a police officer. Innuendo? What do you think I read everyday in the newspaper or see on 2,5 7,9, and Fox?

If someone gets jammed up, who's always the first to know? There's no more hiding. The assholes and crooks we have running the government in this state AND the "journalists" reporting on the assholes and crooks cannot be trusted, as evidenced by the crap they print (or don't print) everyday. Documented criminal history is not innuendo. Example, passing along confidential police information or letting a high ranking gang banger borrow your car is not innuendo. Should I go on? But for some odd reason those little details only come out AFTER someone is indicted? And why is that the press can report allegations against police officers but go out of their way to protect the privacy of criminals? You would think it would be the other way around, wouldn't you?

Innuendo? If you haven't got anything to hide, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. With regard to everyone else---let their lies and bullshit be posted so we know the truth. I would love to see a thread that lists criminal history, gang affiliations, business deals, and every other thing they keep hidden while they stand in front of a camera and smile. Because, I and everyone I know is fed up with all of it.

As for justice. Let me tell you my definition of justice. Justice is you work hard, you do the right thing, you are rewarded. It's what we were all taught. It's what I teach my kids. You, my friend, are naive. Plain and simple, there are good guys and there are bad guys. The bad guys are not supposed to win. And when being good begins to mean looking out only for number one, then we are all in trouble. The fact that the police, in spite of getting screwed over by the FOP, their supervisors, Daley, the aldermen, the media, the Reverends, the gangbangers and everyone else that has sold their soul for a dollar or a bag of dope, still go out everyday to protect me, or my husband or my children, I honor and appreciate that. And, silly me, I think that warrants respect. If your brains were in your head instead of your ass you would realize that too.

You can say whatever you want, but it's a FACT, that this blog is growing in influence everday. Since I have been reading it every issue SCC has brought up has been addressed in some way, shape or form in the media. How could it not? Once it's out there, it must be addressed. It forces reporters to be the journalists they claim to be. Take Alderman Tunney. Do you think either of those stories would have seen the light of day had someone not posted it? Absolutely not. And his responses to both events were both revealing and telling. You see, when people are wrong they become defensive. And when that happens the image that they have produced and packaged for public consumption falls apart at the seams for all the world to see.

I believe I know a few things about life so let me guess what's going to happen. When an event is posted on this blog, as a response or result, we are going to see it spun in the press because it's real hard to lie and tell the truth at the same time. Until, eventually, everybody who is anybody is going to anticipate that SCC will be weighing in on the matter and frame issues initially in a way that takes SCC into consideration. Like it or not, SCC has become a part of the
media power structure. It's going to have everyone looking over their shoulder and watching their back, because the truth is out there.

I don't know you, but I have a feeling I detest everything that you stand for. Perhaps you don't have enough life experience to absord the danger in what our society currently values and is becoming. But, my guess is that you enjoyed "bashing the police" long before you started reading this blog.

10/29/2007 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"People screaming about this Brian Murphy guy or Hubberman being carried on our pension roll are getting worked up over nothing."

REALLY? PERHAPS YOU CAN TAKE A WALK IN THE WEST HALL OF 35TH ST. PAST THE KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY STAR CASES. IS HUBERMAN & MURPHY PLACING THEMSELVES IN HARMS WAY IN THEIR CURRENT POSITIONS?THEY CAN PAY INTO INTO THE POLITICALLY CONNECTED PAPER PUSHING, LIES PENSION. YOU NEED TO DO SOME HEAVY DUTY SOUL SEARCHING & CHECK YOURSELF MORON. SHAME ON YOU!!

10/29/2007 10:38:00 PM  

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