The Lies of Mope-rah
Does she even bother to check anything she writes? Or anything that other people write about the same incident she does? From Mope-rah's latest article:
- By late Tuesday, 7,967 people had responded to the Chicago Sun-Times Web site poll question: Should cops have Tasered an 82-year-old?
Sixty-three percent responded no.
But 37 percent, or 2,940 people voted yes -- Lillian Fletcher, the elderly and mentally-ill grandmother who was Tasered by police who burst into her home, should have been Tasered because she was wielding a hammer.
First up, it's a typical loaded polling question. The poll doesn't say that the 82-year-old was wielding a hammer - that might sway some of the readers a different direction if all the facts were known. Second, the choice was limited to two picks and we've already pointed out that by Use of Force guidelines AND State law, killing granny was a third (and authorized) option.
For the record, we checked that poll numerous times last night, and never once did it show a majority responding no, and certainly nowhere the ridiculous 63-37% spread Mope-rah claims. She says 2,940 people say it was OK to TASE granny, meaning 5,027 say no. Since that time and as of 1700 hours tonight, the results are 6,171 supporting the police and 5,868 saying the police were out of line. How did the votes suddenly go 3,200 to 800 in our favor? Mope-rah appears to be making up bullshit and hoping people who read that rag don't go online and check her numbers.
Here are a few more quotes:
For the record, we checked that poll numerous times last night, and never once did it show a majority responding no, and certainly nowhere the ridiculous 63-37% spread Mope-rah claims. She says 2,940 people say it was OK to TASE granny, meaning 5,027 say no. Since that time and as of 1700 hours tonight, the results are 6,171 supporting the police and 5,868 saying the police were out of line. How did the votes suddenly go 3,200 to 800 in our favor? Mope-rah appears to be making up bullshit and hoping people who read that rag don't go online and check her numbers.
Here are a few more quotes:
- In fact, she didn't grab the hammer until officers forced their way into her garden apartment.
- After the Tasering, Fletcher, who suffers from dementia and schizophrenia, was hospitalized for five days and may have to undergo surgery for fluid on the brain.
From the channel 7 website, we gather the following:
Workers with the city's Department on Aging were making what is called a "well being check" at Fletcher's home on the city's southwest side the afternoon of Oct. 29, police spokeswoman Monique Bond said.
"The woman was seen at the window with a hammer in her hand, swinging it back and forth," Bond said.
The social workers called police.
So evidently, the police did not (as Mope-rah alleges) refuse to take no for an answer - they responded to a call of a known mental observed swing a hammer. Perhaps someone ought to investigate? Or is Mope-rah going to demand police stop taking calls from the Department of Aging and checking on the elderly? We'd actually support that decision - we're police, we're not supposed to be doing social work. But that isn't the most blatant contradiction:
- A landlord opened the door with a key and when the officers stepped inside, the woman was swinging the hammer
Oops. So the police didn't violate any one's living space. Strike two against accuracy by Mope-rah. And we'd love to see the TASER study that list "fluid on the brain" as any sort of a side effect of being shocked. Here's a clue though - it doesn't exist. And the reason that she didn't have a hammer when Mope-rah came to visit is probably the police, the Department of Aging or granddaughter finally took the damn thing away and hid it so granny didn't get killed next time the family left her alone long enough to get into trouble.
This is priceless:
Any Sun Times editors want to weigh in? Do your columnist routinely falsify poll data to back up bullshit conclusions? Isn't that a "Dan Rather School of Journalism" trick?
UPDATE: FOP noticed the flawed polling data, too.
This is priceless:
- "She can be belligerent," Traci Taylor told the newspaper, adding that her grandmother is 5-foot-1 inches tall and weighs no more than 160 pounds.
Any Sun Times editors want to weigh in? Do your columnist routinely falsify poll data to back up bullshit conclusions? Isn't that a "Dan Rather School of Journalism" trick?
UPDATE: FOP noticed the flawed polling data, too.
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64 Comments:
I can’t believe the Scum Times would allow such a blatant act of deception, but then again they are a liberal news entity. The real tragedy is, a large number of people with blinders will fall victim to such nonsense. Hitler used such tactics and propaganda to sway the view of his citizens with incredible effectiveness. Mope-rha, in my view, is no better than Hitler. She uses lies, deception and propaganda, to keep her liberal, anti-white, anti-police base. Mope-rha you should be ashamed of yourself!!!! Scum Times you should also be ashamed of yourself for letting this, supposed, self righteous, poor excuse for a columnist, to perpetuate her racists and inaccurate reporting.
okay i plead ignorance. i can't seem to find the spot that had the poll. where is it?
Looks like we have some rogue journalists out here!!
now what if the police just hit her in the hand with a baton and broke her wrist or some fingers??? they'd be complaining about that too...
Mary Mitchell needs to put on some blues and work in 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 015, and 025 for a month.
go gett'em mark!! grrr
Hey SCC, sounds like Mo-Prahh's touched a nerve with ya.
i was schocked that the taser now causes water on the brain, holly shit ,unreal...water is a conductor...
the police inventoried the damn hammer..knowing a pending lawsuit was just around the corner.
I must say SCC that "The Lies of Mope-rah" is truely a great piece of investigative reporting, something the Sun-Times is incapable of doing. That rag is a disgrace and they should be ashamed of themselves. Thanks for exposing Mope-rah for what she really is, part of the problem and not the solution. Keep up the good work!
Scumbag that shot at the police, in 025, back in Nov. 2005 and was shot in the leg by the police, was found guilty, by a jury for attempt murder of a police officer, yesterday. Chalk one up for the good guys! Nice job by the P.O.'s and Det.'s who testified.
I cant believe how many police officers continue to do street stops simply to generate numbers. I cant understand how so man of you still continue to aggressively patrol the same communiies that will hang you without any warning. As far as I'm concerned any p.o. that gets jammed up you deserves it. WTF are you doing!Stop! Read the writing on the wall!!!!!!!!!!
The Scum-Times used this same type of deception back in 2004 when they overstated their circulation numbers to garner more money for advertising space. They got caught and lawsuits by companies that overpaid for that advertising space followed. That rag paper has had a history of deception.
jesus, this story is on CNN
She has no credibility anyways..she's ghetto. I mean she lives in Maywood or Bellwood, they're as bad as the "westside!"
don't go above and beyond for anybody when responding to calls. Go to your job knock once if nobody comes then leave. 5B or 19B. I bet there won't be any articles written about you. Don't give them any ammunition. It worked well in Cincinati I think.
Of course the "Slum-times" has no credibility.
Isn't the Former Chairman of the Board (Conrad Black)awaiting sentencing for crimes committed inside the walls of that hypocratic institution?
if it was a "check da well being" and if indeed she was 80 yrs old or better, well then after being on dis job for 27 years this is a clear case of over reaction. unless da sarge is a female, or da police are female then da rules do not apply. there are different set of rules dat apply: 1)white supervisors are afraid of black p/o's + dic's 2) p/o's + dic's female can shoot to kill under different guidelines other than males. there are many cases that have been approved, as a result some female boss'es r now in power...gurl power 2 da max
Moperah does not care what we think or if she made up facts. She got her point across to bash the Police. This story has gained national attention already. None of her liberal media friends will care if she twisted the truth and outright lied. They will probably give her an award like they did to Gore and Micheal Moore, 2 more liars. Remember to a liberal its not whether you are innocent, it is the severity of the charge. They took this type of reporting straight out of the Nazi handbook. If you tell a lie enough times people will think its the truth.
Hey now, let's not go insulting Hitler like that.
Of course the police pushed their way in....Of course they didn't knock...we do that all the time..right?? Of course we wanted to terrorize an old lady...Of course we tazered her for no reason....Of course we could have shot her,beat her,spun around and kicked the hammer right out of her hand just like in the movies! But the officers chose the more humane, the safer way,,,to taze her...while not a pleasant experience...it is by far the safest. If we sprayed her with OC she would have terrible burning...athsma attack...If we shot her she could have died...If we hit her she could have broken a bone or several...Using a tazer leaves NO residual effects...No burning, No surgery for a gsw, no broken bones etc...extremely safe and effective. The story about water on her brain is not whatsoever related to the incident...It doesn't happen..Never! Mary Mitchell is nothing but a pure racist plain and simple...she makes her living by hating the white police and for that matter the police period! I can't fathom the idea of being able to speak about the things that she suggests while being employed as a police officer as I am certain that I would get a CR# so fast I wouldn't know which end was up! But for her it is ok and the Sun Times supports her...in her racist views..I say we definately should boycott the Sun Times newspaper as they are not and never have been a supporter of the police and will ruin your life if they have the chance...Mary Mitchell is as bad as any Ku Klux Klan member as far as I am concerned...her way of thinking and her beliefs are no different. I would urge any officer out there that if you ever get the opportunity to encounter Ms. Mitchell while in your professional capacity and she is involved in a legal situation which necessitates law enforcment intervention that we do out jobs properly and professionally....In other words make sure that we don't look the other way for her...
Word of advice to any officer out there that ever gets threatned with a deadly weapon...and a hammer is a deadly weapon...as is a brick, bottle, gun,knife,explosive, vehicle, baseball bat,the list can go on and on...kill the offender..plain and simple...if she was a 19 year old with a knife or a gun comming towards you...you hopefully would have killed the offender..what's the difference?? The difference is that you used great restraint and for that you must be commended...but next time use deadly force...the law approves it. No matter who it is. Stay safe
I cant believe how many police officers continue to do street stops simply to generate numbers. I cant understand how so man of you still continue to aggressively patrol the same communiies that will hang you without any warning. As far as I'm concerned any p.o. that gets jammed up you deserves it. WTF are you doing!Stop! Read the writing on the wall!!!!!!!!!!
11/07/2007 09:27:00 PM
Tell you what little fellow. I read the rule book and know how the game is played. Sure, some things don't always go the way they should, but most of us will keep doing what we signed up for. You keep hiding under your bed.
OT OT OFF TOPIC But, I wanted to get this out.
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I am so proud of this Lad that could've been a gangbanging lowlife who through the force of his character and the intervention of a Marine became a hero. His story is an inspiration and gives me hope for the next generation. While I understand the reluctance of the Military to accept people with "records" I wish there was a way for more young people to straighten up and fly right with the Military as a role model
GUESS MARK READS SCC,SHOULD BE THE OFFICIAL WORD OF FOP HOW ABOUT WE ELECT SEISER PRESIDENT OF FOP 7 AND DUMP THE DRUNKS OUT?
A NEW POLL
Should the Police boycott Sun-Times advertisers?
Don't worry Mary Mitchell, the vast majority of PO's don't have Tasers.
Which means we go to the next weapon on our belt. Our firearms.
You had better believe I am using something on ANYONE swinging a hammer, a deadly weapon, on me. I am going home at the end of the night.
Since people like you won't let us carry Tasers, looks like granny is eating some lead.
"sounds like Mo-Prahh's touched a nerve with ya"
Im glad someones finally took her on. Shes operated w/impunity till now.
Like Dan Rather, she has changed the truth to fit her agenda.
Under the rule of law in any civilized democracy, they should both be in prison.Lies in journalism can get far more people hurt than Police corruption, especially in a democracy.
Hopefully, the public will see how she manipulated her own poll; and demand her ouster,possibly to work the streets of Maywood.
Great job, SCC, THEIR foundation is
cracking..............
No matter what the police did with that mental, Moprah would have found something to complain about. As for Moprah....you can take the girl out out of the ghetto, but.....
The Trib was no better at reporting this than Moprah.
It ended about one paragraph with something like, the police are investigating whether tasers should be used on the elderly. I'm paraphrasing.
After reading SCC and seeing that most people agreed with the polcie I checked the poll myself around midnight last night and found that the numbers were way off against the police. Someone must have tampered with the poll in the evening hours.
If it's any consolation to most of you, I would not even be aware of the existence of Mary Mitchell but for visiting the SCC blog.
She's just another asshole trying to stir up shit. Ignore her.
WHAT ABOUT THE LADIES WOODEN LEG.
IF SHE WAS A REAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER THE HEAD LINE WOULD HAVE BEEN
1 LEGGED 80 YEAR OLD GRANNY SHOCKED TO SEE THE POPO
THE PAPER WAS SOLID THE SGT SEEN THIS ONE COMING AS SOON AS GRANNY STUMBLED TO THE GROUND.
YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN HER AT SINAI SHE DISLIKE JEWISH HOSPITALS.
What constitutes elderly? Carson's gives seniors discount at age 55. Next year, I will be a senior with a Tazer. Maybe we could have only Senior Sergeants taze senior citizens. Would that be fair. Or Female Senior Sergeants can taze senior female women (How old is Moperah) and Male Senior Sergeants can taze male seniors.
Anonymous said...
A NEW POLL
Should the Police boycott Sun-Times advertisers?
11/07/2007 10:56:00 PM
Yes!
IN THE ARENA said...
Does anyone want to get his or her ass kicked? Does anyone want to get beaten by a club or zapped by electricity? What about having their freedom or life taken from them?
We, as the police are bound by general order to carry mace, a stick/baton, some can carry tazers. We all (unless in some undercover capacity) must carry HANDCUFFS and a GUN! We got them, guess what: WE CAN USE THEM! (in the immortal words of Rex H. of CR fame: “Company gives me a stick, dammit, I’m gonna use it!”) We are also bound by general order on how and when we can use said items. None of us came on this job to be some nitwit's punching bag, however, by virtue of what WE do, WE are in harms way (sometimes its our choice, sometimes it aint!). There are times when you have to say: "Fuck this City, its citizens, the Department, rules and regs! I'm leaving work today the same way I came in!"
It’s an unpopular job WE have, and do every day (see 1st paragraph). The funny thing is, WE do the job! WE don’t sit in the comfort of some office with central air, behind a computer. WE don’t run around with some big phallus pressed to our lips looking into a camera, talking about something that happened. WE would love to have the luxury of when a mistake is made, being able to hit 'delete' on the keyboard. WE would also love to have the ability to take all day to make an important decision; instead, WE are sometimes only given .2seconds. WE would also love to publicly tell you whatever WE feel like, or grab the most illiterate fool of the street, who was blocks away from and never seeing the incident, and use him as a 'witness', with no relevance to the truth!
So I ask, to Mope-rah, and this other Idiot; please, please post your phone number! Give out your number to the citizens! This way, anyone that feels the same that you two do, can call you! You can go ahead and solve the problems. Until then, remember one thing: WE do what We do, and they are just critics, a useless animal which feeds off the carcass of which others have created, not having the intestinal fortitude to do themselves, however, to talk about what others have done. Nothing more than Maggots and Vultures.
"It is not the critic that counts..."
10/14/2007 03:58:00 PM
this was on the post about a month ago about the guy with the Iron, I think it might still be true for a hammer.
MEDICALLY SPEAKING
SCHIZOPHRENIA may often be caused
by a virus, according to research that could lead to improvements in the way the mental illness is treated.
American and German scientists have discovered the genetic signature of a virus in the brains and spinal fluid of up to 30 per cent of patients with schizophrenia, indicating a strong link to the disease.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
You see the police actually helped her,, DUMB ASS MOPRAH
two comments--i cancelled my suntimes because of mope-rah. i get the trib now
why in god's name is anyone doing any pro-active police work? wou're gonna get jammed up. the young dummys in 007 -3rd watch are constantly running and chasing after these fools. wise up--there are more inspectors coming. the new ops will come after you.
11/07/2007 09:27:00 PM
Tell you what little fellow. I read the rule book and know how the game is played. Sure, some things don't always go the way they should, but most of us will keep doing what we signed up for. You keep hiding under your bed.
11/07/2007 10:24:00 PM
That was GREAT !!
Why do the police do well being checks?
The Scum-Times should FIRE these race baiting reporters!
They always like to play the race card when they perceive things don't go their way!
Truth is the Police, deal with a lot of "Ignant and Stoopid" people, that the Scum-Times reporters would NOT want living next to them in their fancy neighborhoods!
Here is an idea fop should include SCC as a link more members read SCC than the FOP crap anyway! SEISER FOR FOP PRESIDENT RUN SEISER!
well, you could vote as many times as you wanted, I voted about 5 times, so the POLL as they want to call is is a BIG SCAM. When I voted it was about 82% Pro police...
GUESS MARK READS SCC,SHOULD BE THE OFFICIAL WORD OF FOP HOW ABOUT WE ELECT SEISER PRESIDENT OF FOP 7 AND DUMP THE DRUNKS OUT?
11/07/2007 10:52:00 PM
Hello Stupid,
The FOP's press release was up BEFORE this post. Maybe SCC reads FOP. Ever think of that? Get a life, loser.
Anonymous said...
GUESS MARK READS SCC,SHOULD BE THE OFFICIAL WORD OF FOP HOW ABOUT WE ELECT SEISER PRESIDENT OF FOP 7 AND DUMP THE DRUNKS OUT?
11/07/2007 10:52:00 PM
Hello Stupid,
The FOP's press release was up BEFORE this post. Maybe SCC reads FOP. Ever think of that? Get a life, loser.
11/08/2007 09:26:00 AM
Hi Greg just get in from the bar? my your up early!
Boycot the SunTimes. All CPD members call and cancel your subscriptions. Let them know why too. Mope-rha. Maybe all City Workers could too! How about it? Will you take a stand?
Jena 6: Donations or Bling?
From: NewsGuy2005
Robert Bailey Jr, one of the so-called "Jena 6," has been receiving tens of thousands of dollars in CASH donations, which he keeps at home in his bedroom.
He was bragging about it on MySpace and p Robert Bailey Jr, one of the so-called "Jena 6," has been receiving tens of thousands of dollars in CASH donations, which he keeps at home in his bedroom.
He was bragging about it on MySpace and put pics of himself rolling around with 100 dollar bills, and putting them in his mouth... they've since been taken down but here they are in all their glory.
BTW here is a link to a cached version of Robert Bailey's MySpace Page, for those who deny that these pics are real:
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How 'bout that...............
7:39PM
009 should NOT be included in your list of dangerous districts!!! That place is full of primadonnas and pussies!!!
Not too mention the box car thieves...OY VAY!!!
-011 copper
So what if I like to practice Kung-Fu with knives in my living room? You have the right to barge in and tase me? Whether or not some idiot calls you because they think there's a problem I'd rather you just left me to myself thank you. Was anyone screaming or yelling as though they were threatened by the hammer? If I live with someone who feels I might be a threat, if it makes them uncomfortable, it's their decision to stay or leave and they live with the consequences as I do if I do something illegal. Or they can cry for help, then by all means break the door down. But hell I could be dancing to old M.C. Hammer videos for all you know.
These laws and regulations that allow you to use deadly force on me when I'm a threat to no one infringe on personal liberty and privacy, they need to be changed. This is complete evidence of a Nanny/Police State, we are living in it now and if you're not careful you could be it's implement. I appreciate a lot of things you guys do, thank you for your service, but this is crossing the line.
"Why do the police do well being checks?"
Good question....I believe it has to do with the publics misperception that the police are "personal assistants"....and really have little to do with actually enforcing...um... you know ...those dumb laws...that keep a body down...Say ,,,have you been asked for a ride lately? You know where stupid says..."say it says you protect and serve so gimme a ride".......( I always say...Aren't you afraid of me..?)or have you been summoned to the family home because mama wants you to discipline junior for back talking her? Check the well being jobs are there because,,,and our motto should be... we do it all for the ungrateful public...And the family members are too fucking lazy to care for... whomever you now have to check the well being of....So in light of recent developments...I say this ...no more "check the well being" jobs for me....Sorry squad....tell the family members to call a ambulance...social services...department of aging...the reverand or priest or rabbi of choice...or Mary Mitchell....I no longer give a rats ass...I'm not a doctor...lawyer...or social worker....I am a Police Officer...I enforce State law and City code....I do not check on the well being.....if a family member is so concerned then let them get their fat ass in the car and drive to the location of their concern and do the checking....I say 19P that is all............
I cant believe how many police officers continue to do street stops simply to generate numbers. I cant understand how so man of you still continue to aggressively patrol the same communiies that will hang you without any warning. As far as I'm concerned any p.o. that gets jammed up you deserves it. WTF are you doing!Stop! Read the writing on the wall!!!!!!!!!!
Amen..STOP people..STOP
Back each other up and that's it....When will we finally unite against this nonsense..when they start charging us with murder for justified shootings??
STOP writing tickets..STOP writing parkers..STOP!!!!!!
11/07/2007 10:28:00 PM
Years ago, many a judge saved a young man's life by giving them a choice: jail or military. I know lots of guys from my neighborhood came back from the service with their head on straight and went on to lead a productive life.
But judge's can't do that anymore, lest you fuck with someone's civil rights. God forbid.
I miss MC Hammer....
...Can't touch this.....
Someone print Robert Bailey's address.
I know a few former SOS guys with some time on their hands.
DUMMY SAYS:
Hi Greg just get in from the bar? my your up early!
11/08/2007 10:35:00 AM
I SAY:
This is not Greg, but I do know a Greg at FOP that would be happy to kick the shit out of a loser like you if you gave him half a chance. Since you are far too big a sissy to actually fight, so why don't you study some elementary school grammar? The word "your" is possessive. (Example: Your mother is a whore.) The contraction "You're" means "You are." (Example: You're stupid!) Now, let's try using both words in a sentence so you can see the difference and understand exactly what I mean: You're a moron and your cowardice is legendary. Get it? Now shut up.
Tell you what little fellow. I read the rule book and know how the game is played. Sure, some things don't always go the way they should, but most of us will keep doing what we signed up for. You keep hiding under your bed.
Tell you what big guy. You keep getting your bogus dispersals and your bs contact cards. Im suuuure your bosses are going to be so happy that they will back you up when the shit hits the fan.. Look at how well the bosses are backing up all the p.o.'s effect by the bs media and every other dope head standing on a soap box. But dont worry Ill sign up to help you out when your benefit rolls around.
"These laws and regulations that allow you to use deadly force on me when I'm a threat to no one infringe on personal liberty and privacy"
I say what????????????
There are no laws that allow the use of deadly force when there is no threat.........Oh I see your take on the situation is simply a platform to extend to us your thoughts on alleged violations of civil libertys....now... if you want to voice your opinions on a "Nanny State" please do... but don't piggyback your civil liberty views on the grandma incident....you are not the police and have not a clue as to what we go through everyday when we walk through the door of our district..........nor do you have a clue as to what really happened in that incident...all you have is Moprahs opinion......and whatever "facts" you bothered to read in the local rags.......and by the way... if you want to dance around your livingroom with a sharp butcher knife...okay by me....don't trip........19P that is all......
anonymous, Mary Mitchell is worse than the KKK.
009 should NOT be included in your list of dangerous districts!!! That place is full of primadonnas and pussies!!!
Not too mention the box car thieves...OY VAY!!!
I have worked in both districts, 009 is plenty busy and a great diverse district to work in, nobody has been charged with anything in 009 so stfu....
65th and Cottage Grove-Start of WW2. My fathers Irish neighborhood consisted of huge families, 10-16 children was the norm. Thug Irish, Polish gangs all over. My dad said the war made them all men. He went in at 15 yrs old! That was not unusual. He said most were well under 17. They wanted the 3 meals a day the military provided. He called it " 3 squares and a sheet". He wound up at the front. Happy Veterans Day
Pot of cold water thrown on the physcho and you could have grabbed the old dolly!! Or maybe she could handle that hammer like Zorro!!! Have some sense, but then again Sgt. "Blinky"
Any response from anyone regarding the cooking of these numbers? How can we get keep this issue alive?
- Not a cop
11/09/2007 06:01:00 PM
I have a term paper due, any chance you could proof read it?
Ms Jesus said...
anonymous, Mary Mitchell is worse than the KKK.
11/10/2007 11:50:00 AM
The KKK doesn't ride around in a Jaguar. She knows what helps make the payments so she'll keep feeding her brothers and sisters their ghetto slop so they keep buying papers.
You are right about 009. Nothing but babies, especially the tact and the B team, whatever that is. Some of those "real cops" should transfer to 007, 011, 015 and learn how to be the police. It was embarrassing to see them pouting for safe summer while they were in a real district. real pussies.
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