Sun Times Video
Chicago Public Schools officials are investigating whether Corliss High School security officers -- including one captured on video with his knee on a subdued student's upper back -- were abusive in detaining the 14-year-old freshman just inside the school's front door.
A tape obtained by the Sun-Times shows part of a fracas that resulted after Shaquille Griffin arrived at Corliss on Thursday morning out of uniform.
We spent the better part of a half hour downloading and watching this video tonight and encourage everyone reading this site to do the same. The video starts with the offender already on the floor. It shows him non compliant. It shows him with his handcuffed fist in the officer's face and a takedown following the fist near the face. It shows him following direction when Department approved pain compliance techniques are utilized.
It does NOT show a head butt. It does NOT show "banging" the offender's head on the floor.
In other words, THE TAPE COMPLETELY JUSTIFIES THE OFFICER'S ACTIONS ACCORDING TO DEPARTMENT POLICY AND STATE LAW.
The audio has the girl filming saying that the security could have just given the offender his hat back, leading us to believe that he was not only representing with colors, but by the typical hat to the side BS, too. The tape also shows someone else holding back another offender from jumping into the fray and some uniformed female cop who never once put down her water bottle and paperwork to assist the off duty cop in the middle of what could have been a riot - and that pisses us off to no end.
We take great pains to avoid speaking of anything that could be construed as constituting a job action lest some enterprising boss downtown gets the idea that it might be fun to make us the subject of a rule violation, but we don't think we'd be out of line suggesting that unless we get 100% backing on situations like those depicted in this video, situations that are in complete compliance with Department directives, perhaps officers really ought to consider not working for the schools off duty. The school principals can be hired and fired by the local school councils, and that's a whole other set of political payback that we have to worry about of duty.
It does NOT show a head butt. It does NOT show "banging" the offender's head on the floor.
In other words, THE TAPE COMPLETELY JUSTIFIES THE OFFICER'S ACTIONS ACCORDING TO DEPARTMENT POLICY AND STATE LAW.
The audio has the girl filming saying that the security could have just given the offender his hat back, leading us to believe that he was not only representing with colors, but by the typical hat to the side BS, too. The tape also shows someone else holding back another offender from jumping into the fray and some uniformed female cop who never once put down her water bottle and paperwork to assist the off duty cop in the middle of what could have been a riot - and that pisses us off to no end.
We take great pains to avoid speaking of anything that could be construed as constituting a job action lest some enterprising boss downtown gets the idea that it might be fun to make us the subject of a rule violation, but we don't think we'd be out of line suggesting that unless we get 100% backing on situations like those depicted in this video, situations that are in complete compliance with Department directives, perhaps officers really ought to consider not working for the schools off duty. The school principals can be hired and fired by the local school councils, and that's a whole other set of political payback that we have to worry about of duty.
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posted by SCC at 1:05 AM
120 Comments:
HOw about a CR# on the uniformed female foe fail to take police action and cowardice for not helping the off-duty.
Took a while, but I watched it. I see some kid RESISTING arrest, and being taken down using proper procedure. I also see a useless female police officer who doesn't help the P.O. Was she afraid she may die of thirst if she lets go of the water bottle?
And this kid had the balls to complain about hos he was treated? I'm proud of the ODPO, and ashamed of the uniformed female police officer.
The ODPO should be exonerated, the female needs to go back to the academy and be re-trained on how to be the damn police. The kid? If that was me, my father would have kicked my ass for screwing up and getting arrested. then kicked it again when he found I fought the cops. Obviously this kid has no father.
That CPD Officer should be fired immediately!! No questions asked!! Cowadrice!! Wouldn't want to drop a water bottle to help arrest the asshole!!
Lets see many random thoughts:
God is that uniform on-duty P.O. useless, and aren’t those cheater pants she is wearing? The narration of this unknown CPS student is horrible, Lets see "English class" "F". This video does not reflect any police abuse like the videographer hoped for, instead it should let the world know the abysmal failure known as our educational system. How many of our tax dollars and lottery dollars drive the crap hole? It’s sickening.
Great post SCC. The male officer is 100% in the right. The Sun Times is now insinuating that order should not be maintained for black children trying to learn? Unfucking believable. Who runs this paper, and where do they get black people like Mary Mitchell to support their efforts against blacks?
I'd list all the reasons that accusing that officer of wrongdoing is ridiculous, but I think I'd be preaching to the choir. Now would be a great time for the FOP to show some courage and speak out for what's right-because you we the city won't. How about TODAY?
Nice job uniformed officer. What an abosolute embarassment. I wonder who's girlfriend she is because if they had enough clout to get a do nothing coward like her into the school patrol they certainly will be able to prevent her from being fired like she should be.
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I feel an activation of the Command Chapel is near.
You could NOT pay me enough money to baby sit these high school animals!
I'd rather work at Lincoln Park Zoo! Those zoo animals have more respect for people than the ones in most Chicago Public high schools!
The schools can keep their meager wages!
Off duty PO's in a situation like are acting as security guards especially if it is for a uniform violation. If this officer wrestled a kid for something as stupid as a uniform infraction he should have his head examined. He will lose his seurity job and now will get sued. What else is it going to take for everyone to realize the good fight is over?
what was the student under arrest for??? it wasn't CTTL. he violated the uniform code.....non criminal...the dean could take disciinary measures ...the officer can't say you are under arrest for your hat!!!!! it has been said here many times that if you are proactive for bullshit and get jammed, don't come crying and this is a perfect example.
SPP--Stop Proactive Policing
Watch the part right before he gets thrown to the ground. The offender has a smile on his face as he shows off for his friends.
As for the female cop, I hope you read this: You are an absolute waist of space, If your too precious to be the police quit or retire before an offender kills your complacent ass! You are an absolute disgrace to the uniform and should be held accountable for you lack of action. I would love to hear the excuses your going to tell your fellow officers about why you didn't help. I am not going to post my name here but I will sure as shit say it to your face if I ever see you.
SCC ARE YOU GOING TO BACK ME WHEN I TELL THE BANGER TO LEAVE THE FORD CITY MOVIE THEATER BECAUSE OF A HAT VIOLATION? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN PART TIME JOBS EXCEPT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL JOBS ARE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF POLITICAL PATRONAGE JOBS FOR COPS THAT ARE FRIENDS OF POLITICIANS AND EXEMPTS. 99 PERCENT OF THE TIME WHEN THEY GET JAMMED IT IS NOT POLICE RELATED BUT SCHOOL POLICY RELATED AND THE OFF DUTY OFFICER CRIES FOR IOD STATUS AND AGG BATT TO PO WHEN IT DOESNT MEET THE CRITERIA....THE OFFICERS ARE PAID BY THE POLICE DEPT FOR BS SCHOOL RELATED INJURIES.......BUT THIS DOESNT APPLY IF I GET HURT AT MY PART TIME JOB AND IM SICK OF THE DOUBLE STANDARD AND WASTE OF MONEY
Was the officer sitting by and watching drinking water or wildwood grape soda ($ .25 per can) ??
SCC I am a little surprised at you. How could the on duty officer help the off duty security officer. It was probably her relative and she will know be testifying at court against the off duty officer in court and all CR proceedings.
police officers should never take a job at a CPS.
Rush street has a ticker tape parade planned for the arrival of the almighty Seiser into the 018 District.
It is my understanding that cell phones are not to be used withing the confines of CPS institutions by students. Of course, the girl will not be disciplined; social justice cause, you see.
Schools have rules and they are to be obeyed. If you do not obey the rules, you get sent home. Now the young man who was at the center of all of this is a refllection of his parents- who seem to be of the same ilk as he is; the rules do not apply to their son. Top that by the language used by the filmer and we can see that schools are nothing more than repositories for the illiterate, street, thugs who need someplace to go for a few hours a day. Funny how the principal is silent. She is probably waiting to see which way the wind blows- political winds- before she makes a comment. It will probably support the students right to flout the rules and the cops being wrong to even get involved.
Did anyone see the footage where this "A" students mother was interviewed along with this piece of shit. When asked by the media if he was a gangmember, he looked down with his eyes and head a mumbled something. Classic sign of telling a lie! Apparently this honor student was wearing gang colors and yelling gang slogans in the school, thats what started this altercation!
I saw the vid last night. I'm sure it's edited in the worst possible way. What I also noticed was that the 14 yr old is bigger than the opdp! jezzz watch out. might need the anti-war "goon squad" partolling THAT school. Good job on the take down, office.
JUSTIFIED!!!! F#$% the kid! He got what he deserves!!! Let me pull his rap sheet. Oh another one of those gang bangin shit head!! Stop working off duty for CPS, it's not worth your career. better look for something and let CPS deal with their own SAVAGES!!!!
and some uniformed female cop who never once put down her water bottle and paperwork to assist the off duty cop in the middle of what could have been a riot - and that pisses us off to no end.
Ah aint gotta do shit!
To go along with that the cover strory in todays times by moprah how an 82 grandma was tasered by cpd, then the story about this idiot gang banging punk who officer Bell had the incident with is being looked at by ops. WTF? We are at war with the moronic press! Wake up do nothing! Fuck the pathetic public schools which are the worst in the nation,nothing but a dumping ground. Don't do anything now you cannot even work off duty jobs to help your family survive in this criminal enterprise city of daleys and his band of thieves! ops is looking for cases to make us the lambs who they along with the asa's to crucify any copper right or wrong in their actions! GET YOUR PENSION THIS ID JUST A JOB LIKE A FACTORY WORKER PUT IN YOUR TIME COLLECT ON THE 1ST AND 16TH THAT IS ALL!
A typical day at an inner city high school. The off duty officer did nothing wrong and I'm glad he didn't get hurt. Thank God I have the money to send my son to Marist.
Once again...this job sux!!!
Todays society:
Priests are bad, cops are bad.
But shitheads??? They're great!!
Having worked in 5, and having worked in the schools in 5, I can ot say that I am shocked with the uniformed officer.
Most of the schools are staffed by at least one female (makes sense) but the thing is - they are all pretty much worthless. They are more concerend about getting their mcDonalds, their coffee, and their magazine then they are about doing anything that would qualify as work. You can directly relate this to the 2nd Watch Commander, CW. She puts her "sistas" in the schools, b/c "they treat my peoples right", you know - they do not enforce the no gang members in school rules.
Ricky Bell is a good cop, and he does a great job at Corliss. For those of you that do not know, or who can not tell from a 90 second video, Corliss is a hell hole. One of thee worst, if not the worst, schools in the entire city. west or south side.
It is funny at the end listening to the girl complaining about her book bag - AS IF!! She, I am sure, is a honor student.
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I Just pray that this officer does not work for that Capt. in 017
In fact, im going to light a candle!
Once again Moprah is at it. Today's column is about a elderly woman who got Tasered in her own home for swinging a hammer at police sent by the Dept of Aging on a well being check.
I don't care if someone is "81 and feisty", I'm gonna Taser someone swinging a hammer at me. She's lucky she didn't get shot.
Her family says she is mentally ill, but allowed her to live alone. They blame the cops. I blame the family for not supervising this person.
I'm also surprised Mary hasn't taken up the cause of the "poor child" who chose to fight with the ODPO at Corliss HS.
The kid and his momma are clearly trying to hit the police lotto.
I read an interesting comment on the blog a couple of days back. People complaining to officers in (I believe) 007 about the police not out messing with the shitheads.
I truly believe the vast majority of ghetto residents are good people who are stuck. They want the idiots taken care of and, thanks to Jesse and Al it isn't.
Who made Jesse and Al the President and Vice President of Black America?
The onslaught continues..Today's Slum-Times again 2nd guessing the police and bashing us.
This time an 84 y.o. woman acting irrational, when police were called for a "check the we being."
She begins swinging a hammer at P.O.'s and they tazer her.
Well now the family (all experts on police tactics) want the public to know that she was 5'01 and loved small animals and baked cookies for her church and the mean, racist police just wanted to murder her, blah,blah,blah..(sarcasim here)
Read between the lines..the media could have just printed that!
It's getting old..everyday some B.S. targeting the Police. This has become the worst job in America!
My question..When did we become a social service agency? Well being check..give me a break!
How about this..All ghetto dwellers, don't call us for your B.S...Take care of granny yourselves!
She ain't my mother..she's your mother!
I don't ask for your help caring for MY Parents!
We need to get rid of 5 decades of "nanny state" mentality and get back to the rugged individualism that made this country great!
NO MORE SOCIAL PROGRAMS..NO MORE TAXES!
"There has to be a better way, use your stick to block the hammer..knock it out of her hand. How about,"use Mary Mitchell's head to block the hammer!
A department notice is out opening up the SWAT tryouts to all P.O.'s on the whole department. A step in the right direction as I see it. Sergeants need not apply, it will still be a politically appointed position.
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You have to read this. The Racist Queen Mitchell once again rant's of the wrongs of the CPD. First thing I read points to small point.
She stated
"Unless an 82-year-old grandmother is holding a loaded gun, there's no excuse for police officers to use a Taser".
I have to agree with her. No Excuse for police officers to use a Taser. Thats the wrong weapon of choice. Grandma has a loaded gun. Time to pull out your loaded gun and hope that aim, eyesite and amount of rounds available are better than granny's!!!
You dont go to a gun fight with a knife. Thats the first rule.
I have one comment for Queen Mary Mitchell. Why dont you spend more of your time calling out the "Black on Black" killing. Hold your people accountable for violence in the community like you bitch about the police.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/636574,CST-NWS-mitch06.article
Why was the student not arrested and charged?
Why does the female officer fail to put her knee on his back, assist with the arrest, control and secure his hands/arms, or even take out her handcuffs? Why is she not under investigation? (nevermind-stupid question).
Sure glad the little scrote wasn't tasered like Grandma Lillian "The Hammer" Fletcher...Mary Mitchell's latest victim...Vote now on the Sun-Times Taser Poll!
06:41 AM said...
If this officer wrestled a kid for something as stupid as a uniform infraction he should have his head examined. He will lose his seurity job and now will get sued.
06:49 AM said...
what was the student under arrest for??? it wasn't CTTL. he violated the uniform code.....non criminal...the dean could take disciinary measures ...the officer can't say you are under arrest for your hat!!!!
If either of these two dumbshit commentators read the article SCC linked to, they'd see the following:
Corliss officials say Shaquille was one of four students who initiated "a physical altercation" with security officers, Vaughn said.
Did you catch that? These offender jumped the Security Personnel. They are Aggravated Battery offenders and as such, are subject to arrest and prosecution for felonies. Do any of you dumb asses actually read the articles SCC links to before you post ignorant shit on here? SCC is doing us all a great service by pointing out how the media is twisting things and you don't even read how they are doing it. Get with the program.
I cant believe that stupid racist Mohp-pra. If the police used there stick to knock the hammer out of her hand, and hit her hand and broke it her wrist, what then? Would she be out there stating we should have used a tazer? We cant win with this BITCH!!!
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I promptly responded to Mary Mitchell through her suntimes email. You should do the same. My response to her is as follows;
Mary,
One thing you need to remember. The police use Taser as a means for a less than lethal use of force. If somebody is using physical violence against the police, the police have a couple options to fight back. Using hand to hand causes trauma to the person wanting to fight or hurt the police. First because the force from the police attacker is being met with more force such as in most cases, several more officers who will assist the officer in need.
Another option for police is the gun.
Granted, the use of a firearm is only justified if serious death or bodily harm will come as a result of an offenders actions, Third: An impact weapon such as a night stick of ASP, which will certainly land the police fighter in the hospital with serious injury, and lastly, a Taser. Sends an electric charge to the fighting person, temporarily stopping an attack since the muscle and nervous system cant function. Key word in Temporarily. After being Tazed, you recover within 35 seconds. In a sense, you wake up handcuffed, a bit confused but NOT IN NEED OF A HOSPITAL STAY.
When fighting or resisting a police officer, all officers should use a taser. Why should an officer allow anybody to punch, kick, bite, stomp, stab or shoot them. Officers need to win the encounter so they can return to fight and protect your racist ass another day.
One question you should ask yourself. If your (MARY) were walking your dog down the street and a BIG six foot five, 250 pound bad guy wants to try to pull you into the gangway and do who knows what. If you had a taser in your pocket, would you first try to reason with bad guy? Smile and ask that he finds peace and God in his life. No. Time for Taser. You go home safe and bad guy goes home safe.
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You could NOT pay me enough money to baby sit these high school animals!
I'd rather work at Lincoln Park Zoo! Those zoo animals have more respect for people than the ones in most Chicago Public high schools!
VERY WELL SAID!!! DITTO 100 Times
I was able to read and respond to several other posts as well as respond to Mary Mitchell before the video actually came up. Why did it take so long. After all that, I just right clicked on the link here in the post, saved to a file and it took 6 seconds to download and save for future views.
Damm!!
Nice video. what kind of Camera does she have. Better than my 10 year old video recorder.
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Warning to officers in 3rd District: be careful around PPO G.Vega. Today he testified against an officer at police board stating that the officer used excessive force for slapping an offender when they spit in the officers face. Said he couldn't believe an officer would do that and felt obligated to report her actions. Isn't spitting considered a battery? Using the Use of Force model, a slap is hardly "excessive force". Watch your back!
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What a rat fuck little bitch! Nice career you'll have now
Maybe the she-male uniformed mope is the CAPS "Water Bottle Liason Officer" for the school.
What a worthless piece of deep-fried cow shit.
the off duty PO is down at callback on limited duty for a bad back. he is the same one who not once, but twice took the physical test for the $250. Got caught and suspended 30 days, but remained on limited duty. Now he is out there working security doing street work which limited duty doesnt allow. If can wrestle these kids why cant he work the streets?
Another fine video to show why not to send your kids to public school, the female number one filming this sounds like she is on the maury povich show. All that was missing was a few baby daddy comments here and there to complete it....shoooooo, whatcha talking about willis???
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Off duty PO's in a situation like are acting as security guards especially if it is for a uniform violation. If this officer wrestled a kid for something as stupid as a uniform infraction he should have his head examined. He will lose his seurity job and now will get sued. What else is it going to take for everyone to realize the good fight is over?
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there are uniform regulations for a reason at schools. If you were a real officer you would know that a HAT, yes a HAT is where some of these animals hide weapons. I feel sorry for your partner that you can't think out of the box. Officer safety first, college degree second. You can't write an awesome report if you are dead.
whats the female cop (i mean dog) name?
This story is like all the rest. The public wants bangers, dope dealers, rapists, murderers off the street but the minute we (the police) lay a single finger on them, they are quick to critisize us and pass judgement on us and scream excessive force. You know what, john Q citizen or mr. reporter can have my job anytime they want. oops, what was I thinking, these pussy's dont have the balls to do what I do. They might get their clothes dirty or ripped, they might get punched, kicked, scratched, spit on, stabbed, bricked or shot. what was I thinking.
Most of these "school patrol" officers in south side districts are completely worthless political cronies...how about some of the goofs on the school patrol in 007?
Fuck working for the CPS people. You will see how they handle it. Let them deal with their own problems.
This should be a prime example of why not to work there....
what was the student under arrest for??? it wasn't CTTL. he violated the uniform code.....non criminal...the dean could take disciinary measures ...the officer can't say you are under arrest for your hat!!!!! it has been said here many times that if you are proactive for bullshit and get jammed, don't come crying and this is a perfect example.
SPP--Stop Proactive Policing
He was involved in a physical altercation, wearing gang colors with cocked to the side. The ODPO was 100% in the right, the on-duty should be given 30 pending...
You have to read this. The Racist Queen Mitchell once again rant's of the wrongs of the CPD. First thing I read points to small point.
She stated
"Unless an 82-year-old grandmother is holding a loaded gun, there's no excuse for police officers to use a Taser".
You never use a taser when someone has a deadly weapon, the coppers are in a no win situation, if they try to hit the hammer out of her hand they surely break a bone, she is in her 80's, they took the non-lethal alternative, me, I would have looked at her and closed the door and left, if the family cared enough the woman wouldn't be alone in the first place. it is obvious that they couldn't deal with her either. There is no winning anymore, it is over..
Would you expect any less from our troubled youth? That was one big-ass 14 year old. What are they feeding these kids? Oh, that's right, flaming hots and blue pop-all the escencials.
Momma 'bout to get paid and junior knows it. Unfortunately for junior, momma ain't sharin' her new riches. Too bad shitlick!
The female black officer holding the water bottle should be fired. She did nothing to help.
I just got my property tax bill and the largest taxing district on it is the "Board of education" @ 2.67% of assessed value or $1,003.00. I should be allowed to "opt-out" of that, since I don't use the "publik skools." That is free money going to fine upstanding leaders of tomorrow like 14 year old Mr. Griffen.
The 2nd is "city of chicago" @ 1.012% of assessed value or $413.89 that essentially pay's for my garbage removal. We all pay for water and sewer seperately. That's essentially all I get for my dough. I never call 911, unlike residents of some communities who call on a daily basis for B.S.
Next is Chicago Park district @ 0.360% of assessed value or $147.23. I haven't used a public park in years, the last time I was at the beach was in the 1980's..No lie. I could use that $$ to beautify my own backyard with "flowerpots or wrought iron fence."
Then you've got the water reclamation district..I don't get it? I already pay a seperate sewer and water bill. I guess this is to pay for that politically conected security firm that "sleeps on-the-job."
Then there is cook county..Enough said!
Then in no particular order is cook county public safety, cook county health facilities,(never used either of them) forest preserve district,(last time I walked my dog there a postal worker was parked there in a mail truck ,in uniform, smoking weed or you see men lurking for sex with other men), chicago library fund, (never used that either, I go to Borders books) So you get the idea here.
I think many here are like me never directly getting any value out of their tax revenue.
The bottom line is we pay to much in taxes, these assholes running the show can't balance their own checkbooks, let alone do a budget and live within their means. But, every year cry poor and demand we pay more in taxes for their "pet projects."
I mean just look at the CTA debacle. DOOMSDAY SENARIO! Give me a break! I recall a hearing a quote years ago, it may have been President Ronald Regan who said, "Failures to plan on your part, do not constitute a crises on my part!"
WE NEED ANOTHER BOSTON TEA PARTY!
I clearly heard the female officer yelling into the crowd as she shook her water bottle violently, "H2O is better than Gatorade!" Never sacrafice quality H2O. Beisdes, he had it covered.
Notice that the grandma story has a poll question...."CAST YOUR VOTE
Should cops have Tasered an 82 year old?
No
Yes
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"Should cops have Tasered an 82 year old?
No
40% 1630 votes
Yes
59% 2350 votes
Total Votes: 3980 "
Everyone should go and vote yes... Look under granny's picture.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/636574,CST-NWS-mitch06.article#VOTE
Is Ricky Bell still at unit 376?Light duty?hope not
Dear Mary Mitchell ,last time I checked there were no random drive by shootings in the poor white neighborhoods lately. When will your people stop playing the victim race card? If the ancestors who fought for your freedom knew how this FREEDOM would be used they would have never done it. I believe they fought for you so you could excel, not so you could hang on the coat tails of things that in no way shape of form affected you.
Regardless of who ever you side with, taking enforcement action off duty is stupod because the officer will always lose......do you agree with that dumbass
Well, according to Mary Mitchell in todays suntimes article on the tazing of an 80yr old, we are never justified in tazing an old person or a mental. That's right, mentals are off the table. She has a degree in journalism and as far as I'm concerned what she says is as good as a general order. Better get out my latex gloves, there's alot of crazies out there. LET'S GET IT ON!!!
It is also on youtube.
Youtube.
Easier and quicker to watch.
Man...that ain't even cool! In fact, it's bogus as hell!
Verbal Judo = Hands-Free policing.
The female officer was simply talking the young student, who made a bad decision(deserving of a break), into the proper position to apply handcuffs. All the while, making sure that they were not applied too tightly(at least a finger's width between flesh and metal) and double-locked, so that they would not tighten up as the young lad gently sat himself down in the back of the squad car.
Ha Ha Ha Ha....
Good work Officer Bell.
I wish I could have been there to help you.
Speaking of the scum times,pro black Mary Mitchell topped herself today,with the 82yoa that was tasered,please write to this moron
marym@suntimes.com and tell her what a joke she is,last time I checked,part of our job description was not being a psychic or a mind reader,tell her what you think,I did,because if the 82yoa was white,that article is never written.
Hey 0641/0649-if you aren't that cowardly female PO, then you are just plain dumb. When you tell a kid to leave because he is representing a gang, and he pushes past you and refuses to be arrested, he deserves an ass kicking. In this liberal sue-happy city of Chicago, he got nothing-only perfectly legit police service. Learn the job before you post on here.
CR# for the bitch that refused to take police action. I'm all for no poractive policing but you still respond to a 10-1 no matter WHAT! This ODPO is in great need of a helping hand and she chose to sit back and do nothing. CR# should be obtained right now!!
Put that on You tube. Just another day at a public school in Chicago. Let them run wild and see what happens.Then you wonder why we are in the state we are in. None of the students seemed suprised. Do these students act the fool on a daily basis? Thank God the video was rolling because now the ODPO can sue you in small claims court regarding your BS allegations. Just another example of someone trying to make a quick buck off of some poor PO and the city.
Are you allowed to swear in school or is that a rule violation also. I think the videographer should be reprimanded also.
Off topic for SCC, I am not technosavy but maybe you could put a a running timer or something on your blog for the amount of time Mette is unjustly in jail... Just an idea.
Hey George, the rule in oxford federal prison is festivus is not over until you pin the biggest inmate in the facility. Good riddance.
Richie Rich is next.
My response to the Metro Editor of the Scum-Times (In re: Mope-rah's latest ignorance):
What a remarkable piece of journalistic garbage. Mary Mitchell, who knows absolutely nothing about police work, judges police officers for using force (taser) on an assailant wielding a hammer because the assailant is old and mentally ill?
The taser is an effective tool because it works on the mentally ill. While many pain compliance tactics do not, the taser temporarily overrides the central nervous system, and allows officers to put an end to a potentially dangerous situation quickly.
The police are criticized because they forced entry into Fletcher's home. But what would have happened if they did not? What if Fletcher did harm to herself? Given her history of "belligerence" and mental illness, that is a distinct possibility. The bottom line is that the likes of Mary Mitchell would still have her anti-police story whether the police went in or not.
I was especially fond of the granddaughter's comments. Yes, the same granddaughter who now advocates on behalf of the grandmother but was nowhere to be found when Grandma was in crisis:
"There has to be another way to stop her -- use your stick and block the hammer," she said. "Knock it out of her hand. How hard is that?"
Great idea, use an impact weapon, break an old woman's arm and once again blame the police for overreacting.
Tasers have been proven to be safe despite numerous media-driven reports to the contrary. In many cases they are a viable alternative to deadly force.
Mary Mitchell does the community a disservice by reporting such sloppily researched drivel. The involved officers used a taser to control a woman in a mental health crisis. They then took her to a mental health facility for treatment. That is the purpose for using a taser. Tasers do not cause stroke, heart attack or other permanent injuries (aside from those small burn marks which do eventually disappear. And there is a risk of injury when a tased subject falls to the ground). The effects of being tased (and I have been tased for 5 seconds) are over immediately after the electricity stops.
Mary writes, "Also, it's worth noting that Fletcher hasn't been charged with violating any laws." Do you know why Mary? Because the Chicago Police do not routinely charge people with crimes they lack the mental capacity to understand. We get them mental health treatment instead.
I completed Chicago Police Department crisis intervention training. I can assure you that the officers' actions in this incident were fully consistent with training techniques taught in this week-long class (And endorsed by NAMI--the National Alliance on Mental Illness).
The Sun Times does its readers a disservice by "headlining" this garbage by prominently featuring it is as the "Top News Story" on their website.
I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE ODPO BELL GETS SOME TYPE OF PAY RAISE OR A PROMPTION FOR HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT BS. AFTER WATCHING THE VIDEO THIS COULD OF BEEN REAL BAD FOR HIM AS ALL THOSE KIDS IN THE BACKGROUND COULD OF ATTACKED HIM AS WELL. IF YOU LISTEN CLOSELY YOU CAN HEAR THE FEMALE P.O ASK THE OFFENDER/KID/BANGER IF HE WOULD LIKE SOME WATER. REMINDED ME OF THE LAST WWF MATCH I TOOK MY SON TO, WHERE THE HOTTIE COMES INTO THE RING TO HELP HER MAN. HOGAN RULES. GOOD JOB RICKY
I just saw that tape. UNREAL!!! I hope that USELESS female is not on the street. The sun-times had hit an all time low. This subject is clearly resisting. How about they write about the behavior of these young teenagers and the foul language that they use. How about that for a story.
"A department notice is out opening up the SWAT tryouts to all P.O.'s on the whole department. A step in the right direction as I see it. Sergeants need not apply, it will still be a politically appointed position.
11/06/2007 09:50:00 AM"
THAT WHOLE UNIT IS A POLITICALLY APPOINTED POSITION. THE TRYOUTS
ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM.
A STONE MORONIC GULLIBLE IDIOT SUCH AS YOUR SELF BOUGHT HOOK LINE & SINKER.SAD PART, YOU'RE ONE OF THE MANY CURRENTLY IN THE EMPLOY OF THE CPD.
Maybe teh sun-times should listen to its readers. They have a poll on line about the 82 year old getting tased. It asks was it okay to tase this 82 year old?? At 1347 hrs today its 68 percent yes! Maybe the public are sick of being fed rotten slanted stories as well?
That female police officer(lower case)should take thirty days at least. Where was she when the altercation started? When the jagoff entered school without his uniform where was she? How come she did not respond to the altercation and take Police action? That was totally ridiculous,I'm sure she had just gotten her hair and nails did!!!
Who was the copper that stood by and did nothing? How about posting her name. Hope a CR# was obtained. She is a disgrace and should be fired.
The family should be thankful that Granny wasn't shot. Oh and by the way where was her family? Why couldn't they check on her well being, and why did they allow her to live alone when she is deranged? Of course they are concerned now that they are probably going to see dollar signs from the city.
For a good laugh, read the end of the Sun Times article where the medical assistant asks Shaquille, on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being unbearable, what is your pain level? Responds Shaquille, 20. Priceless! What a pussy.
Read Mary Mitchells hate filled article about the Police Tazing the Old Lady. Here is my response to her. Not going to hold my breathe for a response. Good WOrk Guys and gals stay safe.
Ms. Mitchell,
After reading your article I am astounded by your reasoning. Just because the woman is elderly does not mean she is not dangerous. Police are not required to be punching bags or to be injured in the performance of their duties.
I can think of recent events where elderly have severely injured or even killed Officers. In the last few years Officer James Mullen was crippled for life by a man in his sixties. Officer Donald Marquez was killed by an 80 year old man.
When you say they used poor judgment, maybe it is you with poor judgement. No one in their right mind would want to get hit in the head with a hammer. As for all the Monday morning quarter backs, the Officers would have been legally correct had they shot and killed a hammer wielding assailant. I believe they used remarkable restraint and judgement. They spared the woman's life.
Even the Poll conducted by the Sun Times shows a majority of people agree with the actions of the involved Police.
I don't expect you to respond as you never have in the past when I have written you, unlike your fellow reports from the Sun Times. Nice to see you can espouse your hatred to the Police with no repercussions. Only in a free society where soldiers and Law Enforcement provide you with Rights can you spew your vile and poorly thought out statements.
Off topic I know, but finally justice is served! Justice John Paul Stevens, who is one of the most liberal members of the Supreme Court refused to hear George Ryan's appeal. Ryan has to report to jail at Oxford Wisconsin tomorrow. I only hope that every night that he lays in his prison bunk he sees the faces of the 6 Willis children. Innocent children that his corrupt license for bribes scheme helped kill.
how many times do we not use force? Over and over.
That CPD Officer should be fired immediately!! No questions asked!! Cowadrice!! Wouldn't want to drop a water bottle to help arrest the asshole!!
11/06/2007 03:05:00 AM
I completely agree. She should be fired.
KAPOWWWWW.
COWARDICE... ITS LIKE RUNNING FROM AN OFFENDER IN A SUPERMARKET.
WRESTLING WITH A GOOF AND SHE HOLDS HER DRINK? DOESNT TAKE HER CUFFS OUT?
AND MAKES SURE SHE NEVER LAYS A HAND ON THE KID?
WHO IS THIS "BROAD" WHERE DOES SHE WORK? IM WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE REAL POLICE THAT MAY HAVE TO WORK WITH THIS DUMB ASS WITH PLASTIC SHOES!
IF THE SCHOOL DOESNT FIRE HER THAT PRINCIPAL DESERVE HER!
somebody has to know the name of that f*cking total waste of a female officer. Please put it on here so that any one stuck working with her knows that they will have absolutely NO backup if they get into anything with her on the street. I just couldn't believe what i was seeing. What a waste of a uniform
Our fallen heroine, Irma Ruiz is rolling in her grave over the cowardice of the uniformed female.
LET IT BE KNOWN! The "on duty" uniform female CPD officer "failed to assist the off duty male CPD officcer restrain the offender." What if the tables were turned and she was on the floor struggling to restrain the offender. Would she want him to causually walk up to the scene and not help? No bystander/citizen even assisted the off duty officer. SAD!
NOTE: The parents of the female student talking on the video need to washed out her mouth with soap!
And speaking of CRAP, SCC, did you get a load of what Mary Mitchell was allowed to print on the front page of today's Sun Times? What a load of shit! WHY are we still recieving "check the well being" calls when the concerned family want to dictate to the Police how they are going to do their jobs?
If the family is so goddamned concerned about the health and well being of their loved ones, then by God, they should get off their lazy asses and go over to their loved one's residences THEMSELVES. Once we're on the scene and attacked by someone wielding a hammer, age doesn't matter. We will do what we must to survive the encounter unhurt.
It would have been far better for "family" to go over there and check out their schitzo/demented grandma than have some strangers walk in to the place. "They could have used their sticks (batons) to knock the hammer out of her hand."
I've haven't read such ridiculous Monday morning quarterbacking of Police procedures in print in a long time. We are completely JUSTIFIED to use the taser in situations like what occurred at grandma's house! What fools the public and the press are! Maybe Ms. Mitchell should go on a ride-along in some of our busier areas to see what policing in Chicago is really about. But she shouldn't ride with any PO's; she should ride with tact or gang officers. I see a serious shut-down of services the CPD will provide to the public in the very near future!! The conditions in which we are held under scrutiny now are completely unacceptable. I don't know any professionals who could work under these conditions today.
Bad time all around to be employed in law enforcement.
The schools are out of control because the bullshit and dishonesty starts at the top. Chgo Public Sch. Employees MUST live in the city, same as cops. They do not. Not the PRINCIPALS, not the teachers, etc. They park their Orland Park, Blue Island, Oak Lawn, Evergreen Park,vehicle sticker clad cars right in the " principal parking only" spots in schools all over the city. You don't think they'd send their kids to those schools do you???
To members of the Chicago Media, I have a question.
Why is it that any tidbit of negative publicity generated by someone affiliated with the Chicago Police Department has to be one of your breaking headlines?
Do you understand what you are doing?
In showing the CPD constantly in a negative light you are not exposing corruption in the department, you are directly harming the citizens of Chicago.
Many of the transgressions reported in the papers and on the news are serious allegations and the vast majority are being dealt with. The Police department knows there is crime among their ranks and they are making an effort to address it.
But all this negative press has done something much worse than any corrupt cop could do. It is completely destroyed the morale of the Chicago Police Department.
The police no longer want to do their jobs for fear of retaliation from the criminals, media and politicians of Chicago. It used to be fun to go out and look for crime but now its not worth it only causes more problems. Why risk your neck? Why go out there because whatever you do you are going to be seen as the bad guy? Why does the city have such a problem finding qualified candidates? Nobody wants this job now, and many of the people on this job now are wishing they had taken a different career path years ago.
Who suffers from a completely demoralized police department? Sure members of the CPD are unhappy but we will get through it, retirement is never far away for all of us.
The real people who will suffer from your destructive reporting are the average citizens of Chicago. Not the gangbangers or the drugdealers (they will profit). The average citizen who probably has called the police once or twice in his/her life when they really needed it, they are the one who will suffer. Why? Because its not worth it to go that extra step for the citizen. The police don't know if they are assisting someone really in need or someone just trying to show the CPD in a negative light.
The negative reporting has breed a "do the bare minimum attitude." If you are wondering what result that will have on the City of Chicago, just wait, anyone who lives in the City is going to experience it.
It doesn't take a big person to Monday Morning quarterback every police action and tell them how to do their job (like Mary Mitchell, Jesse and Al Sharpton). It does, however, take a big person to show up to work, put on the CPD uniform and actually want to help people given the current climate in this city concering law enforcement.
Sorry for the rambling, but maybe at least one person in the Chicago media will understand the consequences of their biased reporting.
Here is some advice for people. If you call the police and want them to take action, then don't criticize what they do. If you can do the job better then do or else keeper your thoughts as to how we should do the job to satisfy your sensibilities to yourself.
After seeing this video, I am appalled by the in-action of another worthless female on this job. Did that piece of paper have the secret cure for cancer that you were going to send to the CDC in that plastic water bottle?
Get a fricken clue, wake the f*ck up, and please quit before you get someone else killed or hurt because you just got your nails/hair did.
Remember back, when 2 P.O.'s and 2 PPO's had a job at Dominicks (east side) for shoplifter and shoplifter starts fighting, Well the 1 p.o and both ppo's "ran" and left the one P.O. fighting the offender??? ppo's fired IMMED. and po got his 30 pending!! I hope this is what will happen to this female DOG!! I'm a female P.O. and NO WAY would i EVER stand back (on duty or off) and watch....shoe's, pony tail, what-ever would be flying...but i'd be in there!!! GOOD JOB, Rick!!!
That female cop was useless. I don't care if the male cop told her that he has it under control, she did not even watch his back and disperse the crowd for fear of the other kids jumping him. It ain't the police that are out of control. It is the kids. If it weren't for metal detectors and cops in schools the whole system would be up for grabs, with people getting shot, stabbed, and beat up. But it is easier to blame the cops for how the kids act in school and out of school than the parents of the kids. Maybe the parents that don't work should be required to attend school and see how their little darlings really act. What was I thinking. If the parents really cared how their kids acts these same kids wouldn't be coming to school with gang colors and weapons, let alone using the language that they do. Yeah it is all the cops fault.
One of our best friends is a public school teacher. She lives in the city and pays to send her kid to private school. Many of those teachers who live in the city do the same. They know their job is not to teach but to babysit for kids whose parents do not care, kind of like our job.
Anonymous said...
The schools are out of control because the bullshit and dishonesty starts at the top. Chgo Public Sch. Employees MUST live in the city, same as cops. They do not. Not the PRINCIPALS, not the teachers, etc. They park their Orland Park, Blue Island, Oak Lawn, Evergreen Park,vehicle sticker clad cars right in the " principal parking only" spots in schools all over the city. You don't think they'd send their kids to those schools do you???
11/06/2007 05:02:00 PM
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Is that really true? I heard that Principals do not have to live in the city. Interesting since ours does not live in the city. Maybe I will just ask him!!
Looks like the female cop is talking to an accident victim, trying to calm him down, She never thought to start backing others away from the officer?? (so no ones tries to grab his gun) or even attempt to help this cop?? This is un-real!!!! CR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
The schools are out of control because the bullshit and dishonesty starts at the top. Chgo Public Sch. Employees MUST live in the city, same as cops. They do not. Not the PRINCIPALS, not the teachers, etc. They park their Orland Park, Blue Island, Oak Lawn, Evergreen Park,vehicle sticker clad cars right in the " principal parking only" spots in schools all over the city. You don't think they'd send their kids to those schools do you???
11/06/2007 05:02:00 PM
FYI - CPS teachers and principals ARE required to live in the city. They have a lot of them, a lot, who have been grandfathered in when the ordinance change. There are some exceptions, I think any special education and any sign language capable teachers are exempt from living within the confines of the city.
For what it's worth:
I know and worked with Ricky Bell. Also I am white and in my opinion he was and is an excellent guy!!
Dont worry our UNION wanna be useless fucking FOP will stand by and do nothing.
Fuck you donawho
Good job by the male officer, he did exactly what he had to do in order to take the offender in custody. The female officer should receive a CR# for her actions, or should I say lack of action.
11/06/2007 05:19:00 PM
Great post.
Good guys are supposed to win. Bad guys are supposed to lose. When did it all change? And nobody realizes the danger.
the best part of the video is that the student tapping the ordeal gets her backpack stolen. Only in Chicago
Not a cop here, but since this video is out there, wouldn't the supervisor of the useless piece of shit female officer be remiss if they did not discipline her?
The ODPO should go teach Defensive Tactics at the academy. Good form, good verbal commands. He followed the use of force model. The useless piece of shit, sorry the uniformed officer should resign and be a crossing guard. I would bet she couldn't even do that right. Thank God the ODPO was'nt injured becase her lack of Police Action. She is no different than a DOG on the street. Let her partol her neighborhood and I'll keep partoling mine!!!!!
HE WASN'T ARRESTED FOR THE HAT STUPID! IT WAS WHAT HE DID AFTER HE WAS TOLD ABOUT THE HAT!!!!!! BATTERY TO THE P/O??????? MAYBE
Chicago Public School Teachers DO NOT have to live in the city. They changed that requirement about a year ago.
I invite every officer on 2nd watch to go down on something (a job/TVB arrest) at school dismissal and let the children in the public schools act the way they want. Then they might have to have more Special CPS overtime policing those areas because they can no longer rely on the 2nd watch cars to be held down everywhere while the rest of the city (tax payers & non CPS students) are left out there in the back log with absolutey no police service.
Seiser SAYS:
This is sounding better and better each time I read it.........
Why don't we all just STRIP ourselves and GO DIRECTLY TO CALL BACK Monday morning. One big line around the block and just inform the guy at the door WE DON"T QUIT WE JUST WANT TO WORK INSIDE ......It is much safer there and less beefs!
Maybe Senor Seiser can relieve us all of our duties as we watch him on the PODs take care of business out there on the mean streets. We can all rest a bit easier as the crime rates drop and Senor Seiser wrestles with bears and........ women!
Stay thirsty my friends!
"STOP!! STOP IT!!! STOP IT!! DAMN IT WE TOLD YOU TO STOP!!! STOP!!! STOP!!! DIDN'T YOU HEAR, WE SAID STOP!!! STOP!! DAMN YOU STOP!!! STOPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!! STOP!!! NO, NO, STOP!!!! WE SAID STOP!!! STOP!!! NO MORE!!! DAMN YOU, WE SAID STOP!!!! JUST STOP!!! PLEASE STOP!!!"
- ALL City of Chicago citizens to the Chicago Police Officers in charge of enforcing the law in communities where the residents are black.
Is there something wrong with all of you? Do you have ear infections? Can't you hear the chant? I hear it all the time. What is wrong with you?
Enforcing school rules? Entering homes on well being checks?
WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH ALL OF YOU?
Do you know what you need to do?
listen. stop.
Can anyone remember or name a person who has been fired for cowardice? Except those PPO's from Dominicks? 30 pending from that incident doesnt count as I heard that a lawsuit got the job back.
$$$$$$$$ Off Topic $$$$$$$$$$$$
Here's the newest tax that Stroger and his commissioners want to impose on all Cook County taxpayers!
A $4.00 per phone line per month tax on ALL phone lines including cell phones & high speed internet lines! That's $48 per year per line!
Send this to everyone you know who lives in Cook County. It takes 30 seconds to vote No!
http://www.nophonetax.org/
Is it true the off duty was light duty and was wrestling this kid?????....IF this is true where is the outrage from everyone????
Good enough to risk injury for a part time job but not good enough to risk injury on his full time police job????? BS
PLEASE GET ME AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE,PLEASE GET ME AWAY FROM THESE PEOPLE! YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE ALWAYS RIGHT! YOUR EXPERTISE SHOWS EVERYDAY, ALL THE REPORTED CRIME IS A FIGMENT OF MY IMAGINATION, JUST WHAT EVER YOU DO...LEAVE ME ALONE.
Anonymous said...
Chicago Public School Teachers DO NOT have to live in the city. They changed that requirement about a year ago.
11/06/2007 10:10:00 PM
That is absolute and complete bulls___!!!! Check your facts first, you idiot! They are required to live in the city. If that were true, I would be gone tomoorrow. Sell my house to a young officer and run. WTF!
("They treated me like I was nothing" Shaquille said...)
- YOU aren't, you fucking piece of shit !!!
The female in the video is one of the second watch Captain's favorites. Expect nothing to happen.
zero tolerance...everybody with a ticket book write every violator of our aldercreature backed cell phone ordinance
EVERY DRIVER EVERY TIME, IT IS AGAINST THE LAW!!!!
Anonymous said...
Chicago Public School Teachers DO NOT have to live in the city. They changed that requirement about a year ago.
11/06/2007 10:10:00 PM
That is absolute and complete bulls___!!!! Check your facts first, you idiot! They are required to live in the city. If that were true, I would be gone tomoorrow. Sell my house to a young officer and run. WTF!
*** A federal judge ruled that teachers do not have to live in Chicago, which of course is now part of their contract.
If the female P.O. would have dropped the water bottle, would she have to pay the ten cent tax?
media please investigate that lazy assed female pos! Who did nothing the fatass kept her cheetos and water safe! Another reason to do no work lazy Cythia white rat bitches just like her fuck that copper hope she gets FIRED! COWARD BITCH!
I saw the video
That female and I wont call her a PO needs to be off the job and waiting tables in a diner on Ewing avenue.
And prosecuted for theft of services
She sucks
How about..the copper working a side job as security has been LIMITED DUTY for sometime!!!!!
Now what??????
They do have to live in the city. Call the city inspector and ask. My nephew lives in whiting, indiana and has a chgo principal next door. not even this state
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