The SCC Challenge
"My grandmother is easily confused," her granddaughter, Traci Taylor, said Monday. "She probably didn't know what was going on."
Taylor is one of her grandmother's caregivers. She said her grandmother has schizophrenia and dementia.
- "There has to be another way to stop her -- use your stick and block the hammer," she said. "Knock it out of her hand. How hard is that?"
We hereby issue the following challenge:
- In a boxing ring we construct two rooms, separated by a single door, secured only by a chain bolt.
- In Room A, we will have a standard 20 ounce framing hammer placed at the point furthest from the door.
- In Room B, we will provide a CPD issued baton, a canister of 10% Oleoresin Capsicum solution (OC spray), a fully functional TASER device in a holster with 2 spare cartridges and a pair of handcuffs.
To populate Room A, we will provide a list of 30 CPD cops. These Officers will cover the spectrum of the population - white, black, hispanic, male, female, overweight, thin, gay, straight, body builders, runners, smokers, older and younger. Fifteen of the officers will be retirees at least 70 years of age. Five others will be light duty officers with heart conditions. These officers will play the "offender."
In Room B, the following three individuals will be present and play the "officer":
In Room B, the following three individuals will be present and play the "officer":
- Ms. Traci Taylor - concerned granddaughter and "expert" on police tactics
- Mope-rah - alleged journalist and anti-police race baiter
- Dawn Turnip Tripe - alleged journalist and all around ignoramus
In an order to be determined by "Rock, Paper, Scissors," the "officers" will be allowed their choice of weapon and handcuffs. They will also be allowed to view and chose their opponent from the pool of thirty officers. At the sound of a bell, each "officer" will be required to kick the door open through the chain bolt (a simple task), advance upon the chosen subject, subdue and handcuff the subject using only "verbal judo" and the chosen weapon. Also at the sound of the bell, the "offender" must retreat to the hammer and arm him or herself. The game ends when either the "play officer" successfully subdues the "assailant" or the "assailant" gets in one single whack with the hammer on any part of the "officer's" body.
Admission will be $20. We will guarantee an attendance of at least 5,000 officers and family members who would gladly pay triple that to see anyone of these asshats beaten with a hammer. If we can get Rocky Wirtz to donate the United Center for the event, that's an even $100,000 minimum gate. We will split the money with the three named "officers" and our $25,000 will go to the police charity of our choosing. If any of the three "officers" lose their challenge, the money will go to SCC for disbursement to the police charity of our choosing.
Just to make it interesting, we will include ourselves among the pool of 30 officers. We await their reply.
PS: Our lawyers say we have to provide a disclaimer for injuries suffered at the hands of the "officers" as we are engaging in a sport. We don't think there is much chance of any of these three landing a single blow, but if they agree not to prosecute getting beat with a hammer, we'll encourage the cops not to complain about getting sprayed, hit or TASERed.
Admission will be $20. We will guarantee an attendance of at least 5,000 officers and family members who would gladly pay triple that to see anyone of these asshats beaten with a hammer. If we can get Rocky Wirtz to donate the United Center for the event, that's an even $100,000 minimum gate. We will split the money with the three named "officers" and our $25,000 will go to the police charity of our choosing. If any of the three "officers" lose their challenge, the money will go to SCC for disbursement to the police charity of our choosing.
Just to make it interesting, we will include ourselves among the pool of 30 officers. We await their reply.
PS: Our lawyers say we have to provide a disclaimer for injuries suffered at the hands of the "officers" as we are engaging in a sport. We don't think there is much chance of any of these three landing a single blow, but if they agree not to prosecute getting beat with a hammer, we'll encourage the cops not to complain about getting sprayed, hit or TASERed.
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116 Comments:
I nominate Seiser to be the hammer.
I cant believe that crock of shit, and that shitty ass reporter! will someone put that hater out of chicago! my grandmother is a savage animal and shes fucking nuts. lucky i wasnt there shot the dumb ass!
I will gladly pay 100.USC to attend. In addition I will guarentee to bring at least 50 non-CPD officers. They are part of the silent majority who respect the police.
If I have one more person ask me who "SEISER" is im gonna scream!!
CFD neighbor of mine asked me if we could have SIESER attend next years block party. Does SEISER travel to garcia ridge?
It will never happen. When they have the media days at the academy the one thing they do not do is have the media try to cuff an offender. I would love to see 1 or 2 of them try to cuff someone who does not want to go to jail without using force. I would happily volunteer. There is no way I would be cuffed by 10 of them without them using force on me.
P.S.
Funny video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dXBC6R_rxk
Read Mary Mitchells hate filled article about the Police Tazing the Old Lady. Here is my response to her. Not going to hold my breathe for a response. Good WOrk Guys and gals stay safe.
Ms. Mitchell,
After reading your article I am astounded by your reasoning. Just because the woman is elderly does not mean she is not dangerous. Police are not required to be punching bags or to be injured in the performance of their duties.
I can think of recent events where elderly have severely injured or even killed Officers. In the last few years Officer James Mullen was crippled for life by a man in his sixties. Officer Donald Marquez was killed by an 80 year old man.
When you say they used poor judgment, maybe it is you with poor judgement. No one in their right mind would want to get hit in the head with a hammer. As for all the Monday morning quarter backs, the Officers would have been legally correct had they shot and killed a hammer wielding assailant. I believe they used remarkable restraint and judgement. They spared the woman's life.
Even the Poll conducted by the Sun Times shows a majority of people agree with the actions of the involved Police.
I don't expect you to respond as you never have in the past when I have written you, unlike your fellow reports from the Sun Times. Nice to see you can espouse your hatred to the Police with no repercussions. Only in a free society where soldiers and Law Enforcement provide you with Rights can you spew your vile and poorly thought out statements.
11/06/2007 02:11:00 PM From Previos posting.
LoL... To paraphrase "Comicbook Guy" from The Simpsons...
Best.
Article.
Ever.
Just reading "The SCC Challenge" gave me a boner the way it was written, and the points, explanations, and "shots" you presented. FUCKING OUTSTANDING!
Sign me up SCC. I do not have dementia or any mental illness. However, I do suffer from erectile dysfunction (E.D.) can I still play?
I'll even sign a waiver not to hold you liable if I trip on my DICK daley and fall down, thereby hurting myself!
We dont stand up for each other or ourselves so who will stand up for us?
Who the hell is Dawn Trunip Tripe?
there is another way.... gun fire
I was just checking out the abc 7 news website when I saw this headline under that missing wife of a Suburban Police Sgt.... And I do quote ABC 7 news website......."Investigators executed a new search warrant Tuesday night at the home of a suburban Chicago police sergeant whose wife has disappeared, authorities said."
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What the hell is this? He is now a Suburban Chicago Police Sgt??? Way to go assholes! Keep finding a way to lump CPD is every dam story that affects this city and viewers. He's a SUBURBAN SGT!!!! NOT A CPD SUBURBAN SGT!!!!!!! Unreal.........absolutely unreal!
can I bring my saw to the hammer fight ?
I love it. I want the sangwich concession. My brother in law, the Irish guy can have the beer concession. We wi;ll clean up and donate half of our profits to the Memorial Fund.
Your wasting your breath. Your wasting blogspot space.
This Country has turned totally liberal and very anti-government and police unless its a government free handout or free cash.
The whole idea of the taser was to give the police a tool that was non-lethal in nature to control a situation without becoming physically interactive, that usually results in either the offender or copper hurt.
Mary Mitchell saying to hit the hammer out of her hand with a baton. Sure, try hitting a moving hand with a swing baton. When you miss and break grandma's arm or hand, then the headlines are COPS BEAT GRANDMA WITH A BATON!
FACE IT, WE CAN'T WIN! NO MATTER WHAT!
NO MATTER HOW WRONG A PERSON IS, NO MATTER WHAT THEY ARE DOING ILLEGAL, NO MATTER WHAT OUR RESPONSE IS.... the police will be wrong.
I heard it before on here, it really is the raising of the white flag and surrendering.
Let the liberals, let the illegal aliens, let the minorities, let the criminals all have their freedom!
The cancerous criminal and welfare living has spread way to far and wide to stop it now.
So just go to work, give up most of your paycheck to all the taxes to support the losers and lame, ignore the bad behavior and let it all cave in. Then one day, they will be begging us to come in a do whatever we have to, to fix the problems.
Give mary bitchell the taser... hell, give the shit-bag a gun and I'll take her on with a hammer any day.
Did anyone read today's ScumTimes that our beloved department will now be polling callers on police service?
"police inspectors and assistant deputy superintendents have started to monitor 911 calls and randomly visit callers to ask if they were happy with the police response, Starks said."
An Inspector,and Deputy Superintendent make how much money,and this is their job? Couldn't a student or senior citizen or volunteer do this task either free or for a fraction of the cost? Talk about a waste of manpower resources. Gee, I wonder what the citizen will say. Why don't we start our own poll on our leadership and directives. Unbelievable
SCC, excellent repsonse to Mope-rah. Maybe you can start a post on questions we'd like to have in a survey.
Why didn't the policeee just shoot the hammer,out of her hand ???
Its our job to get hurt,or die right"because the dept and the public treat us so well,they stand behind us right..hammers,guns,cars,knifes.we are not the super heros like matt tobis and Seiser..we bleed.STOP CALLING THE POLICE because you fucked your life up people
pick me pick me
I'm an overweight 2 pack a day smoker with a heart condition and haven't taken my meds in sometime. I will play this role while smoking and trying to cough up a lung.
I'm not gay but am willing to try. The only drawback to that will be that I have a raging case of hemorrhoids.
I also have arthritic hands and a mental disability. None of which the department cares about. My last workout was in 1991 trying to have sex with an obese female watch commander.
I will gladly play the role of the offender while wearing a rainbow thong and nipple clamps.
Do I get the job or do you need the brief case filled with $50's? I so want to do this!
Where can I buy tickets?!
Anonymous said...
I was just checking out the abc 7 news website when I saw this headline under that missing wife of a Suburban Police Sgt.... And I do quote ABC 7 news website......."Investigators executed a new search warrant Tuesday night at the home of a suburban Chicago police sergeant whose wife has disappeared, authorities said."
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Don't worry, no one thinks he is a CPD Sgt. Come on now, he lives in a big brand new Single Family home,owns a plane and doesn't have any side jobs. CLEARLY not a CPD guy!!!! HAHA
...In case anyone forgot, P.O. Marquez formerly from 10 was shot and killed by a "senior citizen" I believe it was while doing a well being check or checkin on a housing violation...this happened I say about 8 years ago.
(jesse watch)... jesse jackass was back at the harold ickes projects on monday complaining about the amount of trespassers using drugs, shitting, pissing, sleeping and loitering in the buildings. Huh...? This dumb-fuck has got to be suffering from alzheimers.
I think the response to the article touched a nerve in poor moperah. She had to write an article today defending yesterdays article. Poor moperah, called out on your bull$hit and you can't handle it.
off topic
mob movie being filmed @ cermak/halstead; chicago mob flick starring sopranos star that plays 'phil'
Don't taze me bro!
Now... This week's stupid criminal:
Burglar Charged With Breaking Into Church to Call Sex Hot Line
CLARKSTOWN, New York — Isn't the 11th Commandment thou shalt not use the church's telephone to call a sex hot line?
A homeless man has been charged with breaking into a Valley Cottage church by picking a lock so he could dial up some sex chat.
The man, James Macnair, was arraigned Monday night before Justice Scott Ugell on charges of burglary, possession of a burglar's tools and petty larceny. He admitted he had sinned before, breaking into the Elim Alliance Church days earlier for the same reason, the judge said.
A church treasurer found Macnair on the phone both times, police said. The first time, when he was in an office, she told him to leave, but the second time, when he was in a basement area used as a nursery for children, she called police, they said.
Macnair, 35, was being held in jail without bail Tuesday and was due back in court Wednesday.
FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.
Florida Deputy Shot, Tossed From Prisoner Transport Van
POMPANO BEACH, Fla. — A Broward County Sheriff's deputy transporting a robbery defendant to court was shot and critically wounded by the defendant, officials said. The suspect then escaped in the vehicle with the deputy's weapon, and an all-out search was under way, officials said.
Hey you should have started to sing, " If I had a hammer I would hammer in the mornin" Then she would have joined in and you could have then sung a few verses of Kumbyah followed up by a group hug. I bet Mary would have loved that.
Oh...Oh...Oh....PICK ME!!! PICK ME!!!
Well it is going to come to a point where we will have new rules that replace the use of force model.
1. Don't fire unless fired upon.
2. use force 1 level below assailant. ex, knife: use hands, hands: turn the other cheek.
3. always use verbal judo first and yell loud if they are shooting at you. and soon our guns will be replaced with silly string.
Did anyone see the news on chan 7 last night? They had a lady who was moved from the projects on State Street who does “ghetto tours.” She was bitching that most of the displaced “residents” didn’t get another free place to live because of the new criteria they had to fulfill which includes:
1. Getting a job
2. Passing drugs tests
3. Paying huge electric bills from their past apartments
How appalling, how dare you ask them to be responsible adults? Maybe Mope-rah can give them a job at the Times or the real Oprah can give them a job at Harpo studios. I could just see the Oprah special entitled, Oprah’s Ghetto-Fabulous Kwanza Give-away Spectacular. The roof would cave in after she would tell them that they would all receive a year’s supply of Wildwood pop and flamin hot Cheetos.
I’ve wondered why Mope-rah doesn’t write an expose on Oprah on her non existent attempts to help these displaced people. Why doesn’t Jessie Jackass help? He has plenty of extorted money. Maybe they could work at his son’s beer distributorship. Oprah wants to help the really disadvantaged people of Africa and not the fat, lazy, do-nothing slobs in this city.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/front
It's on the video player
make DICK daley one of the "officers" and every P O would pay $500.00 to get into that room.SHIT even the CFD guys would join in........I give TWO SHITS about mope-rah,that ugly pig crackhead bitch,and her new retarded grangma friend....FUCK em all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who are the jag-bag relatives that let a mental live alone? Isn't this against the law as in abandonment?
do hibbity gibbity felononius reverends get VIP seating ?
In Mope-rah's Part II on this issue, she's appalled, appalled I tell you, about the response some people have had to this. At least she is now including the Department on Aging for blame in this. "Why did they have to kick in her door"?
Know what, I wasn't there but that ought to be a lesson to those going to "assist the city agency". Check the well being, OK she's alive, 19-P. You want to take her for a check-up and make sure the house is clean, have fun, see ya.
Last time I checked the scum-times poll: no votes-48% YES VOTES-51%. Mary you should get checked for dementia, every day you get more and more paranoid about the police!
Was interesting in Mary Mitchell's column that a Dept of Aging who was denied access called the CPD. Why didn't she just do her job abd leave the police out of it. They get paid to do their job, so just do it and don't call the CPD. Typical when someone can't, doesn't want to or won't do the job they are paid to do, they call the CPD who takes all the heat
I've used all three in my career--Baton, OC Spray, and Taser. The Taser if by far the most humane.
Again, we get blamed for the family not doing their job. They knew about her condition CHOSE to leave her alone.
hey, how come we deal with mentals at all? By law, they cannot be arrested, so why is it a police matter? Shouldn't it be up to trained mental health professionals? In my opinion, every time we deal with a mental, its a liability issue for the city.
Off Topic---Did everyone's tax bills go up 30% from this past spring?
I almost had a stroke when I opened mine.
Also--The County has also told mortgage companies that they are charging $5 per property to pay taxes electronically. My company is going to pay this fee this time.
WTF--Isn't it cheaper to pay large accounts like this? Or does Maria Pappas need to protect her patronage army having them process checks by hand?
Urkel needs to be stopped!!!!
Fantastic idea! It's also damn near as funny as Seiser. Keep up the good work SCC.
Anyone see Mope-rah's come-back article to all those who supported the police's action on the old crazy lady? She can't believe that so many people are defending the police "busting" into her home and tasing a quiet old lady! Ms. Mope-rah even visited the old woman and sat down with her and everything was peachy, because Mope-rah "respected her space, unlike the police" or was she just on her medication?
Ms. Mope-rah...were you there when the "altercation" happened? Did you have a camera hidden somewhere that we dont know about? or are you taking the word of an 82 year old woman who suffers from dementia and is schizo among other things? and the word of a family that not only wasn't there, but couldn't handle their 82 year old granny in the first place?
The Suntimes is nothing but a race baiting, police hating liberal puke publication and the same goes for you, you ignornant racist biaaaaaaaaaatch!
Why dont you actually try reporting some factual, non-biased, non hating articles sometime in the future!
Everything is real funny until it's your mother or grandmother, then its hilarious right SCC....What a stroke
Everything is real funny until it's your mother or grandmother, then its hilarious right SCC....What a stroke
We have a typical coppers sense of humor. But we know this - we aren't leaving our mentally ill 82 year old grandmother alone in an apartment with ready access to knives, hammers, and god knows what other dangerous stuff. We also aren't relying on the government to keep check up on her and keep her out of trouble.
But then, we're responsible members of society - and that makes all the difference in the world.
Asshat.
Rumor: RW, captain in 5, will be the next DC of 022nd. Bye, Bye DM
Of course it sounds cruel to taser an old lady. However, having seen mentally ill people on a rampage, I know how extremely difficult it is to restrain them without somebody getting seriously hurt.
Anonymous said...
Everything is real funny until it's your mother or grandmother, then its hilarious right SCC....What a stroke
11/07/2007 11:50:00 AM
Hey DICKHEAD, I wouldn't leave my ill mother/ grandmother alone like that and I wouldn't call the police to go check on her, I would get off of my lazy ass and go do it myself. You know, the RESPONSIBLE thing.
Just watched the noon channel 9 news. They had a lady from the Wisconsin jail on giving a press conference. The Chicago media was Pissed because they snuck George Ryan in to avoid a scene. You could hear Paul Minekie (SP?) crying in the background like a Bi*ch just like the day he was on a couple months back when SWAT killed the guy downtown. These people, the media, think everyone should bend over and kiss their A$$. What a bunch of babies.
Question to Mary Mitchell: Why do you hate the police?
Regarding Drew Peterson's big house, plane and lack of side jobs.
Things must be good in Bollingbrook.
The old timers on this site will know what that means.
SCC said...
Everything is real funny until it's your mother or grandmother, then its hilarious right SCC....What a stroke
We have a typical coppers sense of humor. But we know this - we aren't leaving our mentally ill 82 year old grandmother alone in an apartment with ready access to knives, hammers, and god knows what other dangerous stuff. We also aren't relying on the government to keep check up on her and keep her out of trouble.
But then, we're responsible members of society - and that makes all the difference in the world.
Asshat.
Hahahaha you got served!
In response to todays colums, Ms. Mitchell recieved this email. God I just cant believe that she still has a job.
Ms. Mitchell,
I read your article and again you reinforced my earlier comments to you, by now blaming the Department of Aging. We as taxpayers are tired of having to support everyone. Why is it not the family's fault? You continue to blame government agencies for what occurred. Your articles only reinforce the idea that government is supposed to be the.... Be all end all for all of this societies woes. It is not.
Maybe people should take care of their own elderly. I assist in my parent's upkeep and do not rely on the City. I actually have to work a second job to cover some of the expenses and do not cry woe is me. I do not expect a handout. You continue a culture of enabling people to do nothing for themselves.
And as for the Sun Times poll, check your numbers. It clearly shows more people agree with the Police Response. Again you write and publish fiction to justify your point of view.
We need to do a better job of public education. People hear "taser' and freak out -- it sounds like torture to most people.
If people knew how the use of force model works, and why it works that way, they'd understand better what happened here.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." That's somebody's law. It applies here.
They hear "crazy old lady tasered by police" and draw the stupid conclusion.
We need to educate them. Among other things, maybe folks will learn that you really shouldn't come at a police officer with a hammer in your hand.
Stupid.
Will the Sun Times ever do a front page story on how these idiots are born and raised to be gangbangers. Their parents are gangbangers, their grandparents are gangbangers, they hold huge picnics in honor of incarcerated gangbangers, and this is the type of people that we have to deal with everyday.
Anonymous said...
Everything is real funny until it's your mother or grandmother, then its hilarious right SCC....What a stroke
11/07/2007 11:50:00 AM
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This is a big f*ck you to whoever wrote this, probably Mary herself. Guess what goof, when my grandmother was at the end of her time on earth and was suffering from dementia my brother and I moved in, lived with her for 2 years, and helped her until she had to be moved 24 hour care at a nursing home. We were in our early 20’s, it really cramped our style with our social lives, we had to endure the mental anguish of someone we loved literally deteriorating everyday before our eyes, but we actually had compassion and loved her enough to volunteer to live with her, assh*le. Guess how many times the Department of Aging, Police, Fire Department, or any other city department was called to her house to perform a check the well being, ZERO.
You have been brainwashed to believe that the government is your babysitter, parent, grandparent, and family member. What the hell is a mentally ill family member living at home by herself. I sure this lady had at least one child, play cousin, future doctor, auntie, choir boy of her church, second cousin, etc. in her lifetime that could get up off their fat flamin-hot-cheeto-fat-asses to go over and check on her themselves. It all boils down to a community that depends and embraces ignorance, stupidity, laziness, denial, and dependence on the government. Remember: Don’s Snitch.
SCC,
Please feel free to allow my comment to be a post. I participated in the Sun-Times poll on Tuesday, November 6, 2007. Several other persons in my office participated as well. The poll asked whether the hammer wielding woman should have been tasered. Once a vote was made, the current poll results were displayed. When I voted yesterday, several thousand people had already voted and 61% of all votes case were in favor of the police action in tasering the woman. Therefore, I was shocked when I read the Sun-Times today (Wednesday) and Mary Mitchell is reporting that 63% were against the tasering while only 37% were in favor. I returned to the poll at 12:42 p.m. Wednesday and the results were 51% in favor of the tasering and 48% against. 12,039 votes had been cast. Based upon my experience (and that of my co-workers') with the poll yesterday and today, I am quite certain that Mary Mitchell is not reporting accurately about the poll. What is your experience with the poll? Did your readers make the same observations? I printed out the 12:42 p.m. results. I think the Sun-Times may owe the police and its readers an apology.
Ok...this is what I heard...because of this recent incident,those of us who work in the wonderful,appreciated,esteemed and, and, ELITE unit we call Patrol, will upon receiving a job will immediately and without delay respond to the job and invite the community and relatives of offenders,mentals and exempts,to conduct a meeting as to how the officers should respond to the incident. Alternatives to deadly force and/or Tasers includes,but not limited to the activation of the sponge gun,the repeated playing of Miron Floren, Mitch Miller and Barry Manilow records (ok,showing my age here),aimed at the subjects residence and last but not least,the gas grenade. Yes this weapon,has been used for years by officers and public for years. It can instantaneously immobilize active resisters as well as assailants. To activate this weapon,and prior to arrival at a violent incident,officers should relocate to their nearest White Castle restaurant, load up on on the double cheese hamburger with an order of onion rings. Officers are then to relocate to the location and if their verbal commands go unheeded, engage the weapon that will instaneously immobilize the subject. Really
Now the CPD is having the public complete surveys asking them "How they think we (CPD) are doing?"
WTF?
This is the brain child of our leader Dana Starks.
The citizens we serve are now to be referred to as clients, and we (officers) as customer service representitives!
That is my take on it anyway.
Well lets see..anytime I go to the US Postal service, or any city department, or any retail store, how am I treated?
LIKE SHIT!
So I guess that's how I am going to treat OUR clients..like shit!
Paybacks a bitch.
Fuck Chicago and CPD heirarchy!
last nights "ghetto tours" on the news interview a cha resident who said "they beez a violaten' my rights with dat contact card". then the female black woman giving the tour said basically the same thing that contact cards are wrong and shouldn't be done and it's a violation of our rights.
excuse me but doesn't the chicago police department mandate us to fill one out when we have contact with an individual when an arrest is not made.
FYI: Batons are no longer department issued. Recruits have to shell out 20 dollars for them.
Next the media is going to stop and ask all subjects leaving the station and holding I-Bond or re-lacing their shoes if the police were nice to them. Thats their Idea of investigative reporting.
Don't know if any "old-timers" remember a retired dispatcher/PO Tom Burns, from the old Communications Section. He died earlier this week. He was on city-wide 1, I think, when he pulled the pin about 15 years ago. Funeral services 10 NOV from Blake-Lamb on 103rd st. Visitation on 09 NOV.
He was a real nice guy. You couldn't forget him. He had an Irish brogue in his voice it was so thick you could cut it with a knife.
rest in peace, Tommy
check out the new Miami Gardens Police department, they want Laterals bad...signing bonus up to 12,000, shift def, and all the other things a real department should have...they are a brand new department...here is the link!
http://miamigardenspolice.org/index.htm
THIS WORKING NO CLOUT POLICE OFFICER FROM EDISON PARK SAYS THIS SSC. WELL MOST OF MY FAMILY LIVES IN NAPERVILLE. MY 87YR OLD GRANDMOTHER ALSO LIVES IN NAPERVILLE IN HER OWN CONDO. FAMILY MEMDERS ALONG WITH MY SELF GO THERE TO CHECK ON HER. WELL ONE DAY MY BROTHER AND SISTERINLAW WERE OUT OF TOWN,MY AUNT WAS AT WORK WAS UNABLE TO CHECK ON HER UNTILL LATE IN THE EVENING. WELL MY AUNT CALLED MY GRANDMOTHER IN THE MORNING NO ANSWER, AT NOON SHE CALLS AGAIN AND NO ANSWER. SHE GET WORRIED. LEAVES HER JOB FROM DOWNTOWN CHICAGO TOWARD NAPERVILLE, SHE CALLS ME AND I START DRIVING DOWN I-88. MY AUNT THEN CALLED THE NAPERVILLE POLICE TO DO A WELL BEING CHECK. WELL NAPERVILLE P.D. ARRIVES AND MY GRANDMOTHER WAS ALRIGHT, AND HAD GONE SHOPPING WITH ANOTHER ELDERLY WOMAN WHO LIVES IN HER CONDO COMPLEX. WELL NAPERVILLE PD ARRIVES MY GRANDMOTHER OPENS THE DOOR TELLS THEM EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT, AND THEM MY GRANDMOTHER SAID TO THE POLICE " YOU GUYS LOOK HUNGRY LET ME MAKE YOU GUYS SOME ITALIAN BEEFS SANDWICHES. I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE, BUT A NAPERVILLE COP TOLD ME HE WILL DO A WELL BEING CHECK ON MY GRANDMOTHER ANYTIME. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOLD BLESS ALL POLICE OFFICERS.
HAVING WORKED WITH RETIRED P.O.S FROM 025 R. DEFILICE AND J. ZACCARDO, I WOULD SAY THE OLD LADY GOT OFF EASY. HAD YOU SENT THOSE TWO REAL POLICE INTO THAT SITUATION, THERE WOULD HAD BEEN A GRANDMOTHER WITH ALLOT OF BULLET HOLES.
Hey 11/07/2007 11:17:00 AM,
I rent because the cost of real estate is way out of wack. I looked for a few years but decided not to do it. To buy in this city over the last three to four years is crazy. Nothing ever keeps going up.
Anyway, I'm renting in the 18th and for years the "business partner" to the guy who's been receiving the rent on this place has been telling me to be sure to call him if any mail comes for the "business partner" who holds the unit in his name as far as the city is concerned.
Well, I accidentially opened that tax notice as I was opening with my mail and what the fuck do I Find? The tax bill this year is less then last year. Why? Because of a "Homeowners exemption".
Un-befricking-believeable!! The so called "homeowner" is getting a 50% tax break on property he's supposed to be living in!!!!!!!!!!
The city is getting so screwed by these landlords claiming that exemption. The rest of of the people like you and my mother who play by the rules and pay there fair share of real estate taxes are getting jacked because pricks like this think they are special.
I called the Assessors office and inquired about it and the guy says, "Oh yea, they do it on multiple properties they own and rent. It's common." I asked him why doesn't the city crack down on it? He said there is no way for the city to know, they have to take people at their word. Fuck that!! Ronald Reagan baby...Trust But Verify.
They can take steps to confirm if somebody lives where they say they do if they made it there business to. Shit make it the business of meter readers to knock on fucking doors. Or link the fucking post office into the loop and if you got a problem with that no damn exemption for you.
If they claim a homeowners exemption and don't actually live there, make it not worth the risk, like selling there property at public auction for tax fraud.
It's obvious the city is losing huge amounts of money with assholes doing this.
When these two rip me off of my security depoist when I move, I'm going to shove this so far up up there heiney's they are going to be sore for years.
Don't worry, no one thinks he is a CPD Sgt. Come on now, he lives in a big brand new Single Family home,owns a plane and doesn't have any side jobs. CLEARLY not a CPD guy!!!! HAHA
11/07/2007 07:57:00 AM
TRUE THAT!
LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!!!!!
Anonymous said...
(jesse watch)... jesse jackass was back at the harold ickes projects on monday complaining about the amount of trespassers using drugs, shitting, pissing, sleeping and loitering in the buildings. Huh...? This dumb-fuck has got to be suffering from alzheimers.
11/07/2007 08:13:00 AM
Sorry! THe CPD does not handle those matter anymore. Have a nice day.
Anonymous said...
Well it is going to come to a point where we will have new rules that replace the use of force model.
1. Don't fire unless fired upon.
2. use force 1 level below assailant. ex, knife: use hands, hands: turn the other cheek.
3. always use verbal judo first and yell loud if they are shooting at you. and soon our guns will be replaced with silly string.
11/07/2007 09:19:00 AM
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I smell a promotion coming your way!!!
I’ve wondered why Mope-rah doesn’t write an expose on Oprah on her non existent attempts to help these displaced people. Why doesn’t Jessie Jackass help? He has plenty of extorted money. Maybe they could work at his son’s beer distributorship. Oprah wants to help the really disadvantaged people of Africa and not the fat, lazy, do-nothing slobs in this city.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/front
It's on the video player
11/07/2007 09:25:00 AM
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This is TOO F-ING AWESOME!!!!
EVERYONE has to watch this! I love all the little white girls walking around 51/State. Don't they know one of them was rapd and thrown from a window of one of those projects not long ago??!!
The tour guide says "keep an open mind", you have to bec if you use your eyes and ears you would be sick!
Seriously, watch this. scroll to the right to find the vid.
Please remember that if you can read this comment on a computer you can read the slum-times on line. You don't pay for it and you are not filling their coffers. The only thing you don't get is the comics as far as I can tell.
Plus you can do it at work.
"There has to be another way to stop her -- use your stick and block the hammer," she said. "Knock it out of her hand. How hard is that?"
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Not difficult at all for me. Of course my name is Jet Li.
Wheee chaw!
"Everything is real funny until it's your mother or grandmother, then its hilarious right SCC....What a stroke"
Yeah, except it wouldn't be MY family member. We take care of our own in this family unit. And no one gets to threaten anyone else with a hammer, with insults, with a vehicle or money. I don't care if its my wife, my parents or my kids. Never mind the thugs.
Pull your head out yer ass.
I have a hard time understanding why the responding cops busted down the door in the first place.
The old lady was clearly not dead and in no obvious difficulty, so what PC was there to bust in w/o a warrant?
Maybe the stories I read about the incident did not tell the the whole story, but I just did not see any reason at all for cops to be involved after the old lady proved to be alive.
Bottom line, if you do not want force used, do not call a cop. Thats what cops are trained to do, and I can't see any reason to call a cop in such a case unless there is some expectation that force is going to be needed. If you want someone to go pray over granny, call a priest.
QUIT WORKING!!!!!!ANSWER YOUR CALLS ...NOTHING MORE!!!
*** WHEN WE WORK WE GET CRUCIFIED IN THE MEDIA. IF WE DON'T WORK THEN NO MEDIA!!!!
Let the city run wild and then the media will see how bad it really is.
Have any of you ever noticed as soon as our contract is expired and in negotiations for a new one, WE, the POLICE, start receiving more negative publicity than usual? Coincidence or NOT? What do you think?
Why weren't the family members arrested for neglect and abuse of the elderly? They should be.
the nutty grandma says..."don't tase me bro"!
Okay,
here's the deal, and a lot of fellow officers will get angry at me. I've been on the street a long time. That lady could have been easily disarmed. Pure and simple.
Oh yea, I'm white, so this is not a race thing. Which I am sure many here would have written if I had not identified myself as such.
Daley bothered by Taser tactic
November 7, 2007
BY fspielman@suntimes.com>FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter
The Chicago Police Department's decision to Taser an 82-year-old woman - suffering from dementia and wielding a hammer to protect herself - "bothers everyone," Mayor Daley said today.
With an investigation under way by the newly overhauled Office of Professional Standards, Daley was careful not to condemn the officers involved in the Oct. 29 incident that sent Lillian Fletcher to Mount Sinai Hospital for five days.
But it was clear that Daley was not pleased about the latest incident involving allegations of excessive force or other wrongdoing that have given his Police Department a black eye.
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The reporter should of asked the Mayor
Did it bother you more than when your son beat a kid with a baseball bat at your Michigan summer home?
What a babbling idiot this midget is .
SCC,
You have to do a thread on the "Ghetto Bus Tours." Check it out at abc7chicago.com.
them them to handle their own grandmother don't call the police
THAT MOPE-RAH IS NEVER LEAVING THE SCUM TIMES. NEITHER IS THAT USELESS STELLA THAT TOOK OVER KUP' PAGE.
THEY ARE ANNOINTED BY THEIR COLOR. THE MEDIA CANNOT FIRE THEM, BECAUSE OF BOYCOTTS BT J.J AND COMPANY.
JUST CANCEL THIS TRASH PAPER, NEW DAILY DEFENDER
THE CITY AND JOB IS DOOMED MEN. COLLECT THE CHECK, AND THAT'S IT.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE SCUMBAG THAT KILLED DONNY MARQUEZ WAN IN HIS 70'S.
AND MARRY MITCHELL
THE FACT IS THAT OUR USE OF FORCE MODEL IS NOT AGE OR GENDER SPECIFIC. PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE YOUR A PRE-TEEN OR AN ELDERLY PERSON, IT MAKES YOU EXEMPT FROM THE FORCE NEEDED TO EFFECT AN ARREAST.
JUST GOOD TO HEAR THAT NO P.O.'S WERE INJURED IN THIS MESS
Check out the FOP's website and press release on the issue. Right on the money!! Can't wait for the Scum-Times response.
Don't look know, but the "magic" poll that ACTUALLY FAVORED THE POLICE has disappeared from the Sun-Times. BOGUS.
KUDOS TO FOP FOR CALLING OUT THE SCUMBAGS AT THAT RAG OF A PAPER
I have an idea, let's ask Jim Mullins just how dangerous senior citizens can be. If I recall Jimmy was shot by a 70something year old man who was supposed to be harmless. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe that I am. Not that I want to subject Jim to anymore pain, but maybe Moperah and this other one, whoever she is, should have a sit down with Donny's sister and Jimmy and she can find out first hand how sedate the geriatric crowd really can be.
great post SCC but off topic rumor has it that Finn is giving up whoever he can to save his a#@ and will be "talking" about officers/supervisors in Gang Intell. Maybe one of his old partners Sgt. J.S. he should be shittin' in his pants!! Just hope P.O. NH doesn't go down with the ship he seems like a nice guy....lets see who the canary brings down with him....more to follow
I have to say that mary is right , we as police should'nt have tased the elderly women. What we should have done is nothing.
And when the helpless die, just call for the pick up service.
I propose that we draw a line down the middle on the city , one half you will have to be kind to your neighbors, obey the laws, respect the police.
on the other half, all the law breaking , haters of police service, oh yeah all the , what free ride am i going to get today.
and let them kill each other
"There has to be another way to stop her -- use your stick and block the hammer," she said. "Knock it out of her hand. How hard is that?"
How about you don't call the police if you know how to handle the situation! Why the fuck are you calling us?
Ok, these rules are too complicated. Could we just have a drinking contest instead?
---not a cop.
...lets see who the canary brings down with him....more to follow
11/07/2007 07:15:00 PM
If he sings to help save his ass, I don't blame him. Maybe if hadn't been a crook in the first place, he wouldn't have to sing like a canary.
And anyone who feels sorry for him, or thinks he's a snitch is an asshole!! He brought the department down two pegs lower.
I looked into Miami Gardens last year.
Do you know why it's the highest paid police department in Florida?
Because their customer service reps (officers) serve a clientel that is 98% African American. I wouldn't work there for double the pay!
At least chicago is still racially diverse.
A weapon is a weapon. Anyone swinging a hammer at another individual poses a threat of imminent bodily harm. Don't want us to profile, but they're profiling that all 82 year old women who are grandmothers and are delusional and swinging a hammer at people are NOT DANGEROUS! Come on, be real. Maybe the taser gave her a new taste in invigoration!
Anonymous said...
great post SCC but off topic rumor has it that Finn is giving up whoever he can to save his a#@ and will be "talking" about officers/supervisors in Gang Intell. Maybe one of his old partners Sgt. J.S. he should be shittin' in his pants!! Just hope P.O. NH doesn't go down with the ship he seems like a nice guy....lets see who the canary brings down with him....more to follow
11/07/2007 07:15:00 PM
If your looking at jail time why cover for any of the asshole clout bosses? Fuck them tell they are the biggest criminals anyway!
WHAT'S TRLY AMAZING IS THE TIME SPENT ON A GERIATRIC ALZHEIMERS CASE W/ A 3RD GRADE EDUCATION, WHOS OFFSPRING MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE 3RD GRADE EDUCATIONS.
IF THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH SHE INHABITS SPENT HAVE AS MUCH TIME IN THE BRAND NEW LIBRARIES BUILT FOR THEM INSTEAD GROUSING ABOUT REAL OR IMAGINED ALLEGED WRONGDOINGS DONE TO THEM BY THE "MAN" THEY'D BE WELL AHEAD OF THE GAME INSTEAD OF FALLING FURTHER& FURTHER BEHIND...
Anonymous said...
I looked into Miami Gardens last year.
Do you know why it's the highest paid police department in Florida?
Because their customer service reps (officers) serve a clientel that is 98% African American. I wouldn't work there for double the pay!
At least chicago is still racially diverse.
11/07/2007 10:02:00 PM
Diverse if you can speak spanish to all the illegals coming into "daleys shitcago"!
I'd pay $100 for a ticket to this event.
Okay,
here's the deal, and a lot of fellow officers will get angry at me. I've been on the street a long time. That lady could have been easily disarmed. Pure and simple.
Oh yea, I'm white, so this is not a race thing. Which I am sure many here would have written if I had not identified myself as such.
11/07/2007 05:11:00 PM
You are an idiot. What would prompt you to say such a thing? Who cares if you are white?
How do you know she could have EASILY been disarmed? In fact she WAS EASILY disarmed by use of the appropriate tool at the time.
Unless you were there, you cannot make that judgement call, I don't care what color you are.
If your looking at jail time why cover for any of the asshole clout bosses? Fuck them tell they are the biggest criminals anyway!
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YOU'RE AN IDIOT....
If he sings to help save his ass, I don't blame him. Maybe if hadn't been a crook in the first place, he wouldn't have to sing like a canary.
And anyone who feels sorry for him, or thinks he's a snitch is an asshole!! He brought the department down two pegs lower.
TRYING TO FIND 12 PEOPLE TO BELIEVE CONSIDERING WHAT HE'S ALLEGED TO HAVE DONE IS THE HARD PART.
At least chicago is still racially diverse.
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"Okay,
here's the deal, and a lot of fellow officers will get angry at me. I've been on the street a long time. That lady could have been easily disarmed. Pure and simple.
Oh yea, I'm white, so this is not a race thing. Which I am sure many here would have written if I had not identified myself as such."
Let me say this...you are a fuckin idiot and I hope to God I never have to deal with you...easily disarmed....oh really...Granny is 5'01 and 160 that makes her taller and heavier than half our police department...have you ever dealt with a crazy??? there is a reason they are called crazy....they will hit you with a hammer as hard as they can...while you are standing there with a stupid smile on your face ...saying...yo Granny please put down that hammer....You are more than a idiot you are dangerous..........
Great idea for a T-shirt...."Grannies fear us.........." LMFAO
Anonymous said...
I have an idea, let's ask Jim Mullins just how dangerous senior citizens can be. If I recall Jimmy was shot by a 70something year old man who was supposed to be harmless. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe that I am. Not that I want to subject Jim to anymore pain, but maybe Moperah and this other one, whoever she is, should have a sit down with Donny's sister and Jimmy and she can find out first hand how sedate the geriatric crowd really can be.
11/07/2007 06:46:00 PM
And if you are still not convinced, ask the family of Don Marquez how dangerous an elderly person can be. Better yet, if you want an answer to this question, go look at the wall at Gold Star Memorial and Park.
11/07/2007 07:43:00 PM
Oooooh, burn.
HEY, IF THIS IS TRUE ABOUT RUTHIE WEXSTER, IS SHE GONNA BRING BACK LT RICHIE SCOTCH BREATH AND SGT TERRY MCSCAM. THEN MAYBE THEY CAN DO THEIR FULL 8 HR TOUR IN 022, NOT JUST HALF. ITS HARD WORKING 008 AND 022 AT THE SAME TIME. BESIDES THEN TR'S CAN GET A 24 HR POLICE PRESENCE, GOD KNOWS THEY NEED IT. GO RUTHIE GO.
"Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference"
The people that shot jim and don were both older "men" and not a older black women. There is the catch, that's the story. No one else can steer away from that fact and that fact only.
Mary Mitchell is trying to start a racial jihad. She only writes about the poor black victims of the the big bad police.
It sells papers, she has no idea about half the stories she writes. They contact her and tell some half truth story about the police and then prints a anti-police story and an attempt to stir up a race war and hate the police article.
Mary mitchell is like the street corner preachers, using their own people for their personal gains.
SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOU.
i think dirty ray should be the next supt
THREE VERY IMPORTANT THINGS 1.NEVER monday morning quarterback another PO's incident. 2. Whoever called Ruth Wedster, Ruthie Wexler sure the hell ain't goin' to 22. 3. I got the worst ass beating of my career from an 82yr old mentally ill woman. Beat me like a dog with a broom.
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