Cops Win One
You got to love it when you actually go before a judge and jury, present a decent case, and somehow Corp Counsel doesn't manage to fuck things up and give away money:
- A federal jury Wednesday found in a favor of two Chicago police officers accused of making a false arrest and using excessive force to apprehend a man suspected of assault and battery.
In his suit against the officers, plaintiff Ivan Shkrobut sought $140,000 in damages after Officers Jonathan Apacible and Joshua Alvarado attempted to bring him into custody Dec. 19, 2003, the city's Law Department said Thursday.
Whoever these officer's attorneys were, sounds like you better ask for them if you get sued.
Labels: good news
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
41 Comments:
Congrats to the po-po's
kathy zellner sounds like a good choice. 4 shitheads may get 20 million for sitting in shithouse for 20 years. white guy fox getting 15 million for doing six months.
Speaking of attorneys, maybe someone should ask John Ambrose's attorney why he's defending the same people that killed his paternal Uncle. Or is he trying to get back at law enforcement for never solving that mob hit at Chalmers Elementary school in 1975.
I'm just saying.
I work in 002. B K is an asshole. I heard the story about what he did and the whole District has a black eye. We are not all like that. This dude rides the medical all the time. He hates white people. I feel sorry for those cops from the 22nd district. They were doing their jobs. B K should put his head in the toilet and apologize. What an unfortunate incident. BK has no friends black or white. He is a lonely drunk who dislikes everybody. B K seek help please you are making us all look bad.
Speaking of attorneys, maybe someone should ask John Ambrose's attorney why he's defending the same people that killed his paternal Uncle. Or is he trying to get back at law enforcement for never solving that mob hit at Chalmers Elementary school in 1975.
I'm just saying.
Tell us more details please. I was in 010 then and dont recall this.
If you ever get sued or brought up on charges, you better get ROBERT KUZAS.
A former policeman, former State's Attorney, former Adm. hearing officer Secretary of State.
Lets not forget the case he beat in Bridgview, were his client was being charged with rape and his friends left the country back to Europe.
fyi our fop att. joe roddy represents people we lock up. a person that i locked up for crack came to court wit joe roddy on his side. is this a conflict. since he represents police
plaintiff Ivan Shkrobut
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Is Ivan white? Corp Con will fight a case brought by a white plaintiff. hmm.
I work for the Corp. Counsel's office, in the same division. Those attorneys, Avi Kamionski and Meg Carey, did a fabulous job defending the officers. I'm sick of p/os complaining that we settle too much. Kevin Fox hit for over SIX MILLION in punitive damages against the officers. Those come out of the cops' pockets. When we settle, cops don't lose their houses or their pensions.
of course, we won this one. (plaintiff Ivan Shkrobut) He's not black, latino or polish, so no voting consequences. the cops could have hung him and won.
"assault and battery" - what are we in New York now ...???????
We don't use that term here..... it's just battery -------
Merry Christmas
congrats boys
Maybe the plaintiff didn't hire the peoples law orifice.the never seem to lose agsainst the city. Oh wait, thats becuase the city always settles with them rather than going to trial
Counter-suit for defamation of character.
Joe Rotti represents the numerous higher ups in the Vice Lords. He wins for them, but get him to represent a copper, uhm, he's stuttering Joe when it comes to taking care of business. With all the sharp attorneys out there, we have to settle for this crusty old raisin? Come on.
Send me Geiger to beat the case
12/21/2007 09:10:00 AM
Ask the detectives.
When was Kuzas an ASA? I only remember him with CPD.
Kuz was never a state's attorney, but used to work in the 011th dist in the '80's w/me.
Did anybody have the pleasure of hearing Lt. Scotchbreath's transmissions at the toys for tots parade? He sounded like he swallowed about 15 shot glasses. His transmissions were unintelligible.He mad a travesty of the airwaves.Proof positive that clout can promote any person no matter how big a drunk and dysfunctional fuckup they are. Cheers to Lt. Scotchbreath keep on drinking my friend.You area goof!
Anonymous said...
I work for the Corp. Counsel's office, in the same division. Those attorneys, Avi Kamionski and Meg Carey, did a fabulous job defending the officers. I'm sick of p/os complaining that we settle too much. Kevin Fox hit for over SIX MILLION in punitive damages against the officers. Those come out of the cops' pockets. When we settle, cops don't lose their houses or their pensions.
12/21/2007 11:29:00 AM
Oh yeah, like PO's never get punitives when ACC's are on the job. You're five minutes out of law school and afraid to go to trial. You guys think it's a victory if you settle with the jag offs for a few thousand. Get a real job.
Sorry, with todays climate, I'd rather settle than risk my property. Currently, myself and others are being sued, if we were in will county we would win but not here. The lawyer representing us is pretty sharp. But we will settle because thtas the system we are stuck with.
"Oh yeah, like PO's never get punitives when ACC's are on the job. You're five minutes out of law school and afraid to go to trial. You guys think it's a victory if you settle with the jag offs for a few thousand. Get a real job."
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So I would imagine if you, Officer Smartguy, got sued alongside the City, you would of course agree to indemnify the City and take the chance one of those awesome cook county juries might find for the jag off? You must hate when your auto insurance company defends you as well, because they settle all the time.
The ACCs don't represent YOU, they represent the CITY and it is cheaper to settle than to risk a trial in this city, in this political climate. Might not be fair, but life isn't fair.
just saying, they are five minutes out of law school and still understand the odds better than you.
12/22/2007 06:34:00 AM
There you go officers...so don't take the settlements personally, that's the media's doing.
Tell us more details please. I was in 010 then and dont recall this.
12/21/2007 09:10:00 AM
So was I. Case was never technically solved, but it was a professional hit. Tied in with some other shit as I recall.
To the goof that has never been sued......shut the fuck up. I've been sued four times and the city settled every time. I'm perfectly fine with that because it didn't cost me a dime. We were right all four times but do you really think those SunTimes subscribers or those people sitting on the jury will believe your ass in court. Get a clue dude.
if we were in will county we would win but not here
Seen the news lately? ask teh Will County Dets what they think?
boob......
The Corporation Counsel attorneys don't have a clue. The ones who care and do a good job smarten up and leave after a few years. The others can't get jobs anywhere else. And on the big cases, the City takes the cases away from them any way and sends them off to connected law firms to be overpaid by our taxes. They settle when they could fight the case and win. And remember, they get a say in who is actually ON the jury, too.
Oh, yeah, tell that sergeant the the two po's out of 019 how great those corp counsel's are with punitives.
And by the way, they ARE the officer's attorneys at that point. The cop is that specific attorney's CLIENT, dumbass.
Anonymous said...
The Corporation Counsel attorneys don't have a clue. The ones who care and do a good job smarten up and leave after a few years. The others can't get jobs anywhere else. And on the big cases, the City takes the cases away from them any way and sends them off to connected law firms to be overpaid by our taxes. They settle when they could fight the case and win. And remember, they get a say in who is actually ON the jury, too.
12/22/2007 03:54:00 PM
It is all clout! Look at the corp counsels police unit all clout, unlimited overtime, take home cars, amke your own hours what else do you expect from "clout city"?
Thank you ACC's Avi Kamionski and Meg Carey, your hard work and brilliance is deeply appreciated.
One for the good guys!
Imagine being a white rookie Officer and having to work with someone like Bernard Kelly on a Beat car.How long and distorted would those eight hours be? BK please, go to St. Michael House. We need you back again. You have lost site of your mission.
Reality Joe said...
Imagine being a white rookie Officer and having to work with someone like Bernard Kelly on a Beat car.How long and distorted would those eight hours be? BK please, go to St. Michael House. We need you back again. You have lost site of your mission.
12/22/2007 06:15:00 PM
BK needs to retire or get help for his drunkeness! Fuck that jagoff guess his clout came in to save the day!
Avi Kamionski and Meg Carey, did a fabulous job defending the officers. I'm sick of p/os complaining that we settle t..........................................................................................I LOVE MEG CAREY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did anybody have the pleasure of hearing Lt. Scotchbreath's transmissions at the toys for tots parade? He sounded like he swallowed about 15 shot glasses. His transmissions were unintelligible.He mad a travesty of the airwaves.Proof positive that clout can promote any person no matter how big a drunk and dysfunctional fuckup they are. Cheers to Lt. Scotchbreath keep on drinking my friend.You area goof!
12/21/2007 08:52:00 PM
If true, another example of the department enabling an alcoholic. If it is evident to everyone that someone is drunk, hungover, or preoccupied with getting to the bar, why doesn't someone in authority step in?
Evidently, it's better to wait until he gets to Abbateland?
12/23/2007 05:00:00 AM
Or, he may accidentally shoot his dick off chasing someone out of the bar.
12/21/2007 08:52:00 PM
another magnificent 7 that were all promoted to sgt from 008 tac all at the same time! lets see they all get drunk together and all got promoted together how can this happen? Will "Jody" clean up this mess also? heard he was looking into a sgt at the airport who did some shit and continues to do things that are hmm to put it mildly fucked up! Guess who?
ACC's are afraid to go to trial? How ignorant are you? Having an undefeated trial record as an ACC in IDL and always eager to take a case to trial (volunteering on any case postured for trial, including with other divisions), your comment really offends me. I graduated from a top-20 lawschool and turned down high-paying corporate law firm jobs b/c I believed in our cause (yours and mine collectively) and am dedicated to defending you. You think I work for $50,000/yr. on average 60-75 hours/week on the more than 30 cases on my desk for another reason?
For your information, settlement in IDL is done ALWAYS with your best interest in mind. Even when you officers come in saying "take it to trial, never settle," almost every single one of you, after Plaintiff's counsel pokes all the holes in the case (which inevitably exist no matter how innocent your behavior was) and starts asking you about whether your car is in your name or your wife's, have a change in your attitude about settlement. If it weren't in your best interest to settle, you can guarantee that this gun-slinger attorney would happily take your case to trial everytime.
As this is a public access blog I cannot detail for you exactly all the reasons why cases settle. Feel free to come to Corp. Counsel's office and request someone to talk with you about it anytime. You'll always find attorneys in the office any day of the week at all hours.
I feel as strong as many of you that the system needs to change. The press and juries are not your friends. However, you need to start appreciating the friends you've got. The ACCs in IDL are underpaid, underappreciated by everyone (judges,City, you). When people find out what I do they often ask "how can you defend the police?" I say, "very well and with pride." It is my humble opinion, and I like to think any police officer that has been a client in IDL (those that have won with me at trial and probably as much or more so those for which cases have settled), that the police should feel the same way about your ACCs in IDL. It would make my time working on your cases at the office ON CHRISTMAS a little more bearable.
Wise up.
Why does the Corp Counsel even have a detail? WTF do they even do all day aside from taking Junior to and from day care?
To all the ACC's, I know and believe ALL you guys/gals do a great job. Don't think for 1 min that 99.9% of the P.O.'s don't appreciate you. The guys posting nonsense here don't probably aren't P.O.'s and if they are, probably have never been sued. To the assholes who complain about the ACC's, fuck off. Who do you think you are? These people do a great job for us and its well appreciated.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!
I have been sued and the corp. counsel refused to settle the case and won. There are some good lawyers in that office. With that said... if they decide to settle a case, don't get your panties in a bunch.They know what they are doing! It's their JOB to take care of YOU, so YOU don't end up making a payment to some SHITHEAD for the rest of your life for some Stupid BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! I have also been sued and they settled.
Got sued for some bullshit about 15 yrs ago. During the the legal process I made some overtime. Just before trial time they elected to settle. Originally suing for $100,000 settled for $2,000. I made about $1000 in overtime. Go figure! Everyone went home happy.
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