Wednesday, December 19, 2007

Where Do We Get Ammo?

  • Cook County Commissioners Larry Suffredin and William Beavers have introduced three proposed ordinances that would shut down all gun stores in Cook County, including Chuck's Gun Shop and the recently opened Cabela's in Hoffman Estates.
  • The Deadly Weapon Dealers Ordinance, a proposal by Suffredin, would prohibit federally licensed firearms dealers from operating within 10 miles of one another and would ban all gun shows in the county. Further restrictions on where firearms retailers would be allowed to operate are predicated on proximity to schools and parks. Commissioner Suffredin was recently quoted as saying, "As a home rule unit, Cook County has the legal right to regulate where these establishments [gun stores] are allowed to operate. Chuck's Gun Shop is within one mile of a school which will not be allowed once this ordinance passes."
  • Also introduced as part of this anti-gun package of laws is the Safe Streets and Weapons Registration Ordinance, introduced by Beavers. This ordinance would require the registration of all firearms and firearms owners in Cook County. Closer examination of the proposed ordinance reveals an even more diabolical gun-control scheme -- as written, the ordinance would actually ban firearms in the county including any handgun without a loaded chamber indicator. Furthermore, the ordinance prohibits transporting a firearm in a vehicle unless the gun is completely disassembled into a "nonfunctioning state." This includes rifles that have already been sighted-in and revolvers that cannot be simply "broken down" into a nonfunctioning state.
Someone correct us if we're wrong, but this would effectively ban all revolvers and most rifles and shotguns?

Here's a statistic we've never seen published. With all this technology and manpower dedicated to tracing the origin of guns seized in Chicago, what is the percentage of guns confiscated in Chicago (and Cook County) that were actually sold in Cook County? We're willing to bet that the number is awfully small and most guns come from somewhere else. Which means that this move by Beavers and Suffredin is all smoke and mirrors and won't do a thing to impact the crime rate. Kind of like Representative Acevedo's push to ban 50 caliber rifles when the grand total of individuals killed in the entire United States by 50 caliber rifles still stands at zero.

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Anonymous idiot gun freaks said...

HOPEFULLY NOWHERE! If we cant get ammo, neither can the bad guys... only difference we all know we can get it... maybe not the super duper 8x the speed of light kill everything in its path phazer ammo, but the kind that will do the job. You gun freaks want ammo available that can kill a fucking elephant! "CUZ ITS OUR RIGHT (chew spit)" Why not lock down all ammo? Fuck it, sell guns to whomever, but make ammo UNAVAILABLE! Require anyone who wants bullets to produce 10 forms of ID, submit DNA, fingerprints, and retina scans. Require a 1 time firing of the ammo you want to buy and the G has a "fingerprint" of the gun associated with said ammo. That way when a cartridge is found on the scene of a murder it can be tracked. bottom line is we need more government regulation. If you are a law abiding citizen who only carries for protection you have nothing to worry about. REGULATION IS THE ANSWER! over time it will provide a database and atleast a start for detectives. If you disagree, you truly are a gun freak and should move to Wyoming and start a cult!

12/19/2007 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i urge all LEO's and their non-felon friends and family to join the NRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12/19/2007 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come DuPage, Will, Kane, McHenry, Grundy and every other county in the state combined doesn't have the crime rate of Crook County let alone just shitcago and weapons bans and registration requirements are almost non-existant in the rest of the state. The bottom line fact is that law abiding citizens DO NOT run around killing each other and are THE ONLY ONES that this law will affect. Yes there are a few cases where a law abiding citizen does do the unmentionable and the media loves to play it over and over again giving the false impession that it happens more often, but on average there are approx. 19,000 murders each year(FBI crime stats) and less than 100 are of such cases. I'm thinking the new law might be because beaver's homeboys might be tired of facing armed resistance when they decide to go piliging in nice suburban homes.

12/19/2007 01:32:00 AM  
Blogger It's Not All Real said...

The Supreme Court is going to disappoint all these asshats. The D.C. handgun ban is going out the window, and so will every other handgun ban in the country. (Are you listening Morton Grove, Oak Park, Winnetka, Evanston??) These ordinances will never fly either.

And in the meantime, they can all go fuck themselves!! And that IS for real!

12/19/2007 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

more useless laws upon criminals.

I carry a gun to protect myself, maybe the public needs to realize this.

12/19/2007 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn I'm out of the loop. I wasn't aware that all of the gangs guns were being purchased legally from gun shops in cook county. Thanks for informing me mr beavers you dumb-fuck.

12/19/2007 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Hitler loved gun control too said...

Cook County Commissioners need to get their fucking heads examined. What a bunch of dumbasses!

12/19/2007 04:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not all smoke and mirrors. Somebody, either in the ATF or the ISP is informing the city who has purchased weapons from outside Crook County. How do you think the Area Gun Teams know who has them? Thats how they are able to do search warrants on other wise law abiding Americans whose only crime is maintaining gun collections. Like that guy 016. A real desperado. You know, the brother in law of a copper in 019 (no, it's not me). The guy that was a hunter and was forced to bring his hunting rifles down here for storage until the renovations on his Wisconsin cabin were complete. The Area 2 Gun Teams finds out about it, does a search warrant on his home, takes him out in cuffs, processes him in A/2 and confiscates his rifles.

My son just got on the job. I told him that whatever he does, DO NOT go on a Gun Team. Show some self respect and do honest Police work. Don't arrest law abiding citizens who hurt NO ONE because Hizzoner thinks guns are evil. Don't go to a Gun Team and make criminals out of law abiding people like the Gun Teams do. Instead work hard and become a REAL Policeman.

12/19/2007 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No need for ammo because you will eventually have a dept issued weapon for On Duty Only. Watch it is coming.Read the fine print of the CAPS Order.

12/19/2007 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave it to the County Board to trip over their dicks again!!!!

12/19/2007 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger pathickey said...

Larry reminds me of Henry Hill's toupee-sporting brother-in-law Morrie in Good Fellas.

'What am I? A schmuck on wheels? '

12/19/2007 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off, this legislation probably won't pass. Secondly, existing businesses would have to be grandfathered so only new gun shops would be unable to open. They can't close current businesses. Well, the mayor can legally committ criminal damage to property (ripping up Meigs' runways). Anyway, if these business are established they should be grandfathered.

12/19/2007 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go ahead, close down EVERY gun store in Cook County!!

The drive over the border to Indiana is not far for the criminals to get their guns back here. Or Lake County, or Will County or DuPage County or Kane County.

And now you have given millions more in revenue away to Indiana.

How these fucks are elected blows my mind.

12/19/2007 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over twenty years ago I had a partner that thought as Idiot Gun Freaks does. Guns were evil, only the police should have them, we need more anti-gun laws, crime is the fault of the NRA, blah, blah, blah. I shot down each and every one of his arguments. Not that I'm Mr. Debate but it's easy when the facts are on your side. One of the things I told him was that if you're so afraid of being shot that perhaps you should look for another line of work. He became a house mouse and still is a house mouse. Hates working the street, won't take promotional tests lest he lose his "spot." But the hypocrit still carries a gun, on and off duty. As to IGF's other ramblings, I think he watches too much CSI and drinks too much Kool-Ade.

12/19/2007 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More libtard bs from the Dimokrat "leaders" in Chi. As pointed out, these new ordinances will only succeed in eliminating the few remaining stores in Cook County that sell firearms; which will have absolutely ZERO impact...on gun crime in the city and Kook Kounty.

Daley and his machine toadies, along with all the storefront Revs & other assorted bleeding hearts simply want to repeal the 2nd Amendment; nothing less...the wetdream of braindead gungrabbing socialists everywhere. I stopped buying ammo in Cook years ago when they started with the register you have to sign for same.

Don't worry Richie & Co, I'm sitting on a small mountain of ammo and babykilling assault rifles...along with a helluva lot of other non-criminal, law-abiding folks I know. You can pass all the dumbshit, feel-good "legislation" you and your scumbag corrupt lackies want...it won't change a thing.

12/19/2007 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Oh man, not another law! said...

Funny how these elitist that are “our” Law Makers know what's good for us. Do As I Say, Not As I Do!
That is why they have Armed Security Details to protect them and their families, and enact laws that allows them to be considered Law Enforcement and arm themselves (with no training I might add). Meanwhile, Joe Regular Guy can’t protect his family from criminals in the event of a Home Invasion or civil uprising (like the Rodney King riots). Just make the Fricken laws that are on the books stick in court and have strict sentencing guidelines for crimes committed with a gun and we will see how crime drops. Or maybe not, because the Law Makers will see that a segment of the population will be incarcerated disproportionately, and attempt to understand how some people just have to use guns to victimize, just like some people just have to use Crack Cocaine.

12/19/2007 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous mad mel said...

In a few years ,we'll all be down to a few rotted out shotgun shells,
fight'n over a barrel of gas...

If they remade the Road Warrior,
couldn't they just fill the cast w/
various mopes from the city,county & state?
I think the stuttering prick would make a great "WEZ".....

12/19/2007 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone should look at the guns "hog nuts" has and tell him to take his gun off. Also will they disarm the all of the alderperps that can carry a concealed weapon because of a little known ordinance that allows them to do so?

12/19/2007 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since it is called the deadly weapon dealers act, I guess they will be closing down Walmart, Kmart, Kohls, Dominicks, Walgreens, Osco, CVS, Sports Authority, Dick's Sporting Goods,...............etc. Since they all sell knives and bats. Then we can go after Home Depot, Menards, Lowes, ACE, True Value and all the mom and pop hardware stores since they sell hammers and screwdrivers and power tools, chainsaws, axes..........etc.
These moron aldercreatures are about as bright as a 7 watt lightbulb. But, this is our own fault. We elected these asshats in the first place, at least someone did! This is what happens when civilized society becomes complacent and no longer cares about the way its government runs. "Why should I vote? It doesn't count anyway." YES IT DOES!! There are more out there like us than there are of them. We just need to rally around the flagpole and get out there. I served 6 years in the Marines to ensure that the citizens of this great nation retained their freedom and maintained the right to vote. Please, this Feburary and November, get out and vote. I don't care if there is 36 inches of snow on the ground and it is -20F out. VOTE!! Grab your mom and dad, voting age kids, gramma, Auntie Grezelda and Uncle Ernie and make it a family day out. Let's show these nitwits who is really in charge! Us the citizens, not these asshat, patronage soaked, bribe guzzling, democrat Daley appointees. If we don't do it soon there won't be a later.
Da Sarge

12/19/2007 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget possession of laser aiming devices.

I propose lasers should be mandatory in all gang related shootings. Then innocent bystanders won't be getting hit. The aldercreatures can keep the voting public that much safer.

12/19/2007 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wolverines!!!


Anyways,

it makes it easier to rob folks with 11-12% sales taxes,

with 20-40% increases on their property taxes,

and to give their family jobs on the County payroll.


How they going to enforce this? They dont have the manpower, nor the stones to collect them all.

12/19/2007 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't worry too much about this ordinance. In it's current form, it is in violation of the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution. Thus, it will be struck down quickly.

- A lawyer who knows

12/19/2007 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this bearded, crooked, political hack adlerman Sufferedin gets elected States's Attorney, will he fire the State's Attorney's armed bodyguards? I doubt it. Liberal democRAT rules are for you, not for them!

Join the NRA

DO IT TODAY!

NRA.COM

12/19/2007 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Chuck's Gun Shop is within one mile of a school which will not be allowed once this ordinance passes."

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Yeah, That is REAL IMPORTANT.
We don't those innocent children buying guns and shooting each other at school.

12/19/2007 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous protect your 2nd amendment rights said...

SSC:

How about a permanent side bar to the blog for NRA AND the Illinois Rifle Association Membership.

12/19/2007 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr beavers the one who married a young ho and got her a big job, just like emil (mumbles ged jones) did you have got to be without a doubt 2 of the most ignorant rats ever! Guess we need to inform all gang banging punks about this law! WTF? Lunatics gone wild!

12/19/2007 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
No need for ammo because you will eventually have a dept issued weapon for On Duty Only. Watch it is coming.Read the fine print of the CAPS Order.

12/19/2007 07:35:00 AM

_________________

you're a fucking retard.

12/19/2007 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous COMMON SENSE said...

HEY ASSHOLES IT'S YOUR PEEPS THAT NEED THE BAN. WHEN IS THE LAST TIME A WHITE GUY DID A DRIVE BY IN THIS DAMN CITY. HOW ABOUT THE SQUIRREL WITH THE LITTLE NUTS DOES SOME STATISTICAL COMPARISONS, AND MAYBE TEACH THE PEEPS ABOUT SOME SELF CONTROL. OH YEAH, THATS RIGHT, THE ONLY WAY TO CONTROL THEM IS PROACTIVE POLICING. OPEN YOUR EYES BEFORE YOUR MOUTHS, THE REALITY IS THERE.

12/19/2007 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC:Lets look at some Crook County factiods.

#1:How did the Hoffman Estates Cabelas get a FFL when County bans new FFL business from opening??


#2:BATFE processes FFL applications,one step is checking with local governments on zoning ordinances.Why did BATFE issue the FFL when Cook County bans new ones??

#3:Cabelas sells AR15 style weapons and the hi-cap mags to go with them and other weapons(im all in favor!!)Current Cook County ord already bans them??

4#:Why didnt Cook County go after Cabelas with EXISTING ordinances,why all the hoopla over NEW laws,I smell County shakedown.Its obvious that County got greased by Cabelas to slide in,why the change in heart??

Please dont shoot the messenger.Im glad Cabelas opened the store and sells guns and ammo,im only raising some questions.

12/19/2007 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read the revised Crook County weapons ban,how can they legally impose JAIL time(6 months) for an ordinance violation??

Does that now mean that they can also give me 3 years for a speeding ticket(under 40mph)??

What if my lawn isnt cut to city specs,will the death penalty be imposed for business offenses??

A Concerned Patriot

12/19/2007 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any ammo ban won't effect the gangbanger. They don't target practice, they just do live fire. How many driveby's can you get from a box of shells?

12/19/2007 01:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple, though incomplete, solution.

Don't enforce these particular laws.

Not a solution to blatantly unconstitutional infringements, but, at least one that will minimize the damage to many otherwise innocent citizens.

12/19/2007 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Tommy Jefferson said...

re idiot gun control freak:

Actung!

Sig Heil!

Fuck you!

12/19/2007 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Paul Revere said...

"Please, this Feburary and November, get out and vote. I don't care if there is 36 inches of snow on the ground and it is -20F out. VOTE!! Grab your mom and dad, voting age kids, gramma, Auntie Grezelda and Uncle Ernie and make it a family day out. Let's show these nitwits who is really in charge! Us the citizens, not these asshat, patronage soaked, bribe guzzling, democrat Daley appointees. If we don't do it soon there won't be a later.
Da Sarge"


REGISTER TO VOTE

VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION

HAVE NO DOUBT, VOTE INCUMBENTS OUT

12/19/2007 02:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you outlaw gun, only outlaws will have guns. Most gang bangers don't register their guns. So who are these laws aimed at? How about not registering becoming a felony?

12/19/2007 02:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous idiot gun freaks said...

HOPEFULLY NOWHERE! If we cant get ammo, neither can the bad guys... only difference we all know we can get it... maybe not the super duper 8x the speed of light kill everything in its path phazer ammo, but the kind that will do the job. You gun freaks want ammo available that can kill a fucking elephant! "CUZ ITS OUR RIGHT (chew spit)" Why not lock down all ammo? Fuck it, sell guns to whomever, but make ammo UNAVAILABLE! Require anyone who wants bullets to produce 10 forms of ID, submit DNA, fingerprints, and retina scans. Require a 1 time firing of the ammo you want to buy and the G has a "fingerprint" of the gun associated with said ammo. That way when a cartridge is found on the scene of a murder it can be tracked. bottom line is we need more government regulation. If you are a law abiding citizen who only carries for protection you have nothing to worry about. REGULATION IS THE ANSWER! over time it will provide a database and atleast a start for detectives. If you disagree, you truly are a gun freak and should move to Wyoming and start a cult!

12/19/2007 12:04:00 AM
Spoken like a true serf. You sir are truly pathetic.You have no sense of what a Right is do you?
If a gun ban would stop criminals from possessing or using guns it would be effective, but all history has proven that it would not.Gun bans only disarm the law abiding and leave them as easy prey for the criminal.You stated "If you are a law abiding citizen who carries for protection you have nothing to worry about" Yes they do, as the law in Illinois is there is no provision for C.C.W. at all and in the city of chicago there is a total handgun ban.Have you never heard of U.U.W.? I do disagree with you and I'm no gun nut or a cultist. I, however believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the United States Of America. I also believe that any attack upon the Rights of individuals is an attack upon the Rights of all Americans. You do not make people safer by denying them their Rights, any of their Rights. What you do get is totalitarianism and that is exactly what we have here in this city,county and soon to be entire state. Hopefully the SCOTUS will shoot down the gun bans and instead enact/uphold laws that actually put criminals behind bars.It's a small jump from banning guns to banning books,religion,free speech,freedom of assembly,or any other Right.All they have to do is put up a false argument for it or scare tactic and people like yourself will fall for it every time, you are the frog in the pot.

12/19/2007 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we cant get ammo, neither can the bad guys
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I've got more 240gr. .442 LSWCS than you have brains.

You CAN'T stop me from getting ammunition.

And there's not a damned thing in the world you can do about it.

12/19/2007 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the ignorant libtard asshat who posted @ the top of this thread @ 12:04 AM, try getting a clue, dipshit. I quote: "If you are a law abiding citizen who only carries for protection you have nothing to worry about", unquote.

Typical response from a clueless gungrabbing weinie. FYI, it doesn matter in the Land of Lincoln how upstanding or law abiding you are: you CANNOT get a carry permit/CCW in IL. This is only possible if you are a LEO or a politically-connected hack of the dimmycrat machine. IL is currently one of two states in this country (the other being Wisconsin)which prohibits ANY legal concealed-carry provision, for the regular peon/taxpayer/lawabiding/citizen.

Move to Wyoming jagweed? Just in honor of you, I think I'll get myself another AR-15 this week, along with a few cases of 5.56 ammo for it. You can never have too many elephant-killing guns and ammo to feed them, right skippy?

12/19/2007 03:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's what I am going to do, if I even see these two JAG-OFFS so much Fart the wrong way, I will arrest them plain and simple . Maybe some of you coppers will get the drift we do not have to take this kind of shoot from your hip antics from this asshole Beavers. He is no different from anyone of us and we must make him RESONSIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS. This is another black man afraid and uncomfortable of his own skin color, so he goes and wants to playn gestapo. Watch it Beavers!!

12/19/2007 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE MUST PROTECT OUR AMMO RIGHTS!!

I nominate SEISER as AMMO CZAR!!

12/19/2007 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Over Educated Copper said...

Freaking idiot Cook County!

Where are Police Officers supposed to buy our duty weapons!
There will be no one left in business within resonable driving distance!

Instead they should make Illinois a "right to conceal and carry weapon state" Like Texas!

Texas which is bigger than Illinois in all aspect has a much lower crime rate!

Why is that?

Maybe it is because the criminals in Texas don't know who is armed or not, that's why!

Criminals think twice before they mess with anyone from Texas or within Texas.

Just ask the burglars that got blasted by a shotgun recently for robbing a house outside of Houston!

Then again you can't asked the burglars because they are gone and good riddance! HA! HA!

12/19/2007 05:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would expect that the alder creatures and the county hacks to include hog head with the empty nuts would be the first to turn in their guns. Their staff and some State attorneys carry also. I do not have police powers but have seen.

12/19/2007 07:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Santa, as far as you know said...

Cabela's is truly heaven on earth. If they put in some stripper poles and served Guiness I'd never leave!!!

12/19/2007 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous grimreaper said...

School kids can't come into Chuck's Gun Shop or anywhere else to buy guns. This is just more harassment, and another attempt to steer the public into placing the blame on gun violence away from where it really belongs, savages running the streets loose, in Chicago and our suburbs of Cook County,instead of locked up in prison for lengthy prison sentences. Just another ploy by the Liberal Politicians and jitney Reverends to avoid the responsibility of making the correct decisions that would save lives, if favor of the easy way out with their politically correct band-aid approaches, that fail EVERY time. They are too lazy and stupid to come up with something that works, so , instead, they just dream up one Kooky idea after another. If any of this liberal nonsense worked, the results would be clear,and working by now, but the rates of Murders and shootings is still abysmal in Chicagoland, just as its been for decade after decade. The rates might go up or down a bit either way yearly, but they are still astronomical in comparison with numerous other areas of our country. Another law or ordinance is just political fluff, there are thousands on the books already, and most just harass law abiding people, because as we all know, [except the above politicians; etc] criminals don't obey laws, and won't in the future. Thats why when they get caught in their crimes, they get locked up and put in prison. So , instead of wasting our tax-dollars again, use the taxpayers money to build more jails and prisons, and just keep these gang banging, dope-slinging thugs locked up, forever if necessary.

12/19/2007 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC:Lets look at some Crook County factiods.

#1:How did the Hoffman Estates Cabelas get a FFL when County bans new FFL business from opening??

Cook Co can ban whatever the hell they want to, what they can't do is trump Federal Law re a FFL.

#2:BATFE processes FFL applications,one step is checking with local governments on zoning ordinances.Why did BATFE issue the FFL when Cook County bans new ones??

Apparently the BATFE checked with the local government, namely Hoffman Estates. They're a home rule unit, under the Illinois Constitution and they amended their laws to accommodate Cabela's. FYI a home rule unit law and ordinance applies within it's legal boundaries and cannot be overridden by another home rule unit unless it violates the state laws which Hoffman Estates doesn't. Once you leave there I would suspect you are subject to Cook Co ordinance re the assault weapons bans they passed in the night and out of public view.

#3:Cabelas sells AR15 style weapons and the hi-cap mags to go with them and other weapons(im all in favor!!)Current Cook County ord already bans them??

There is no current Federal or State AWB. As stated above Cook Co can ban any thing they want, what rubs their ass the wrong way is they're not getting the tax revenue because of the dumb ass laws they passed and they know they can't enforce it without taking a hit in their pocket from a lawsuit.


4#:Why didnt Cook County go after Cabelas with EXISTING ordinances,why all the hoopla over NEW laws,I smell County shakedown.Its obvious that County got greased by Cabelas to slide in,why the change in heart??

I don't think they got greased,they knew they couldn't win and now they're trying to get even. Factor in Suffredin running for SA and it's all a bunch of bullshit for free publicity.

Please dont shoot the messenger.Im glad Cabelas opened the store and sells guns and ammo,im only raising some questions.

12/19/2007 12:51:00 PM

12/19/2007 08:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you're a Pro 2A or CCW supporter consider visiting www.illinoiscarry.com

12/19/2007 08:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cook County Commissioners Larry Suffredin and William Beavers have introduced three proposed ordinances that would shut down all gun stores in Cook County, including Chuck's Gun Shop and the recently opened Cabela's in Hoffman Estates.
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What about Shore Gallery??!?!?!?!?

They need to step up the campaign contributions.

12/19/2007 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Yore353 said...

Hoffman Estates is a home rule town, and they changed their gun ordinances to allow Cabelas to move in, which over road the crook county AWB ordinance.So there was no "pay off" to crook county. Hoffman Estates, and cabelas followed the law.

But Suffredin new proposal wants to take away that home rule authority.

Please people call your commissioners, and make some noise.

http://www.co.cook.il.us/commissioners.htm

12/19/2007 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: 12:04 Am,
Sir or Madam (I think madam because you have no balls)

Where the fuck do you think you have a right to take away one of my rights under the Bill of Rights. You are a whore. Real Americans turned guns on the English to gain their rights and I would urge the same to you if you propose taking the rights from real Americans.

12/19/2007 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

History Lesson; Germany 1930'.

12/19/2007 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JOIN THE N.R.A.

The only orginization that will fight for the rights of your average American.

12/19/2007 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about MANADATORY JAIL TIME for hookie who gets arrested with a gun? More MANDATORY time if he gets arrested while committing another crime holding or possessing a gun or holding or possessing a gun in drug-infested area. More MANDATORY jail time if he's a gang-banger. More jail time instead of the slap on the wrist UUWs....how about that Daley or is that too racist? That includes all the white hillbillies and skin heads. Don't call me racist. Lock them all up.

12/19/2007 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say keep our rights to have arms....we are being invaded by the illegals and they all carry illegally. Go America!

12/19/2007 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Commissioner Willdum Beavers says--

It's all y'all white peoples fault!

12/19/2007 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Folks, please CALL AND WRITE to the commissioners. Let them know this ordinance is unacceptable.

http://www.co.cook.il.us/commissioners.htm

I don't want to have to wait for it to be struck down in court. Stop it from getting passed in the first place.

Thank you SCC for bringing more attention to this issue.

I encourage everyone who wants to save what's left of our 2A rights in Illinois to bookmark and visit http://illinoiscarry.com/

12/19/2007 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tried to buy ammo on-line, but when you read the fine print they dont ship to Crook County and especially Shit-cago.

12/19/2007 11:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12/19/07 0721 AM. Be the real police like you. You do not know anything. Your facts are wrong and out of line. You sir are an idiot. I would be willing to bet the bank most these guys on the gun teams have made more felony arrests than you. teach your son to be a whiny copper like you.

12/20/2007 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will never happen.

12/20/2007 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12/19/2007 12:04:00 AM

You're not only an idiot, you're also a pussy coward

12/20/2007 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmm, As far as I can tell they still let you have 2 arms, along with 2 legs. So whats the problem????

12/20/2007 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like Beavers and Suffredin will be vacationing very well this year due to nice packages provided for them by the gun dealers in Crook County..... Gotta love politics.

I also love how any new anti-gun legislation has absolutely no effect on the criminals, only the law-abiding.

12/20/2007 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SUPER WALMART anywhere else in the country!

12/21/2007 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How come DuPage, Will, Kane, McHenry, Grundy and every other county in the state combined doesn't have the crime rate of Crook County let alone just shitcago and weapons bans and registration requirements are almost non-existant in the rest of the state. The bottom line fact is that law abiding citizens DO NOT run around killing each other and are THE ONLY ONES that this law will affect. Yes there are a few cases where a law abiding citizen does do the unmentionable and the media loves to play it over and over again giving the false impession that it happens more often, but on average there are approx. 19,000 murders each year(FBI crime stats) and less than 100 are of such cases. I'm thinking the new law might be because beaver's homeboys might be tired of facing armed resistance when they decide to go piliging in nice suburban homes.

12/19/2007 01:32:00 AM


I know you know so why ask.. They don't have many shitheads living there. DUH!!!!!!!!!

12/21/2007 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about mandatory sentences for gang bangers / criminals caught committing crimes. Life in prison no parole. .. This way they will all slowly go away.

12/21/2007 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfuckingbelievable; enough about going after sporting goods stores or gun shops that sell guns. It's not the guns killing people, it's the reckless piece of shit savages pulling the triggers. Go after them. It's about time Cook County starts taking care of the real problem and stop slapping offenders on the hands. Use Dupage County or Will County as an example. Our court system here is a joke and a big time embarrassment.

12/21/2007 04:04:00 PM  
OpenID BigRedKodiak said...

"No need for ammo because you will eventually have a dept issued weapon for On Duty Only. Watch it is coming.Read the fine print of the CAPS Order."

Gee, how sad. Just as defenseless as the common people. My heart bleeds.

Deal with it.

12/21/2007 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dicks Sporting Goods for Ammo

12/22/2007 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do these people keep getting reelected?

12/22/2007 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Big brother is watching. We are no longer a free nation. The Bill of Rights meens nothing to our elected officials.

12/22/2007 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Publish a fucking comment scc.

12/23/2007 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first 2 phases of the swat tryouts are complete. 394 filled out on-line applications, 7 got knocked out by IAD, 181 didnt follow directions leaving 213 eligible to shot. Of the 213 only 46 passed both the shot and the fit test. As per the order the top 50 get an oral interview so all of the 46 are scheduled for interviews in the next couple of weeks. The top 25 will go onto swat school.

12/23/2007 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or I can order my ammo on-line and have it shipped to an address outside crook county........How do you like them apples!!!

12/23/2007 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to the anti-gunners you police are supposed to be against the average citizen being armed. You mean to tell me they have been lying about this ? The Washington D.C case should make the local politicians choke when the Supremes rule in our favor.The joker said it best in the Batman movie,"This town needs and enema !"
www.militantmarksman.libsyn.com

12/23/2007 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to the anti-gunners you police are supposed to be against the average citizen being armed. You mean to tell me they have been lying about this ? The Washington D.C case should make the local politicians choke when the Supremes rule in our favor.The joker said it best in the Batman movie,"This town needs and enema !"
www.militantmarksman.libsyn.com

12/23/2007 02:42:00 PM

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Don't believe everything you read, my friend. I think you'll find most sophisticated cops from different departments understand what the second amendment means. Most citizens only hear their police chief parrot the gun grabbing line.

12/24/2007 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off duty and retired police officers should not carry concealed firearms, until every peaceable citizen who chooses is allowed to carry concealed/open as in most other states, such as Missouri, Indiana, New Hampshire, and Kentucky. Thugs and other bad guys are the problem, for it is true that violent crime problem is not caused by off-duty or retired police officers or peaceable citizens, whose fundamental, natural rights to self-defense should not be infringed by Cook County, Chicago, or the State of Illinois.

12/24/2007 10:43:00 AM  

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