Thursday, December 20, 2007

The Man Without a Union

Sometimes, you run across the most interesting things. Take for example, the minutes of the Police Board.

The 20 September meeting:
  • Wayne Harej, identified himself as a Chicago police officer and said he would like to initiate a complaint because two sergeants are currently on the board of directors of the Fraternal Order of Police, which is in violation of Rule 54 (b) of the Department rules and regulations. Interim Superintendent Starks asked Mr. Harej to speak with Assistant Deputy Superintendent Debra Kirby of the Internal Affairs Division regarding these allegations.
  • Wayne Harej identified himself as a Chicago police officer and said a complaint log number has been obtained regarding the alleged rule violation he raised at last month's meeting. He said that 325 individuals holding the rank of sergeant and above are members of the Fraternal Order of Police.
It must be nice to appear in the same platform as Pat Hill, who addressed the Board before he did - the same Pat Hill who spent her entire career jamming up working police officers, testifying against police officers and just generally, using her status as a "police officer" to undermine the Department at every turn.

So this guy just got a CR on 325 coppers? For being members of the FOP? Wasn't Cline a FOP member? Wasn't Hillard? Isn't Starks? Isn't it kind of habit that the Superintendent be a member? As was explained to us, these people are Fraternal members. They get invited to the golf outing and dinners, they get the newsletter, and the FOP Book.

If we remember correctly, the national president is a former CPD lieutenant; one of the VP's is a Chief of Police. So is another national officer. The FOP umbrella is supposed to encompass all officers. But we guess if you begin your career as a member of C-5 getting other coppers jammed up, old habits die hard. No wonder the FOP threw this guy out.

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74 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, I was REALLY hoping Pat Hill would be the new super, and that Barbara Pillows would be the first deputy....instead of the shitcago flag, our uniforms would have that nifty red-yellow-green africa patch instead!

12/20/2007 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is this goof?

Maybe he is friends with that racist piece of shit in 002 who is getting CR's on coppers because they are white.

12/20/2007 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wayne has a valid point. How does an officer initiate a complaint against a supervisor/management when his Union has Supervisor/Mangement on the Board?

That smacks of impropriety,is a blatant conflict of interest & in itself is a violation of the By-Laws.
How does the Union act in the best interests of it's membership when Management can influence dicate policy?
You're way off base on this pertinent issue SCC,Talk about Silly People.

12/20/2007 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any relation to the ignorant fuckface Bernard Kelly from the deuce?

I'd love to see him call a 10-1 and no one shows up!!

12/20/2007 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the Wayne Harej complaint is not against the FAIR SHARE Sgt's and above Ranks but against the 2 Sgt's who currently hold positions on our F.O.P. board of directors.

Most of our members would agree that the Sgt's already have their own Union, so why don't they run and get elected to the PBPA board of directors and stay out of F.O.P. business...

You forgot to mention SCC that the 2 Sgt's also get paid $500.00 a month for serving on said F.O.P. board of directors in addition to the extra salary Sgt's receive.

Nice one sided reporting by SCC.
You bucking for a job with one of our local tabloids?

12/20/2007 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just what we need another asshat copper looking to jam up others..last week we had that gem in 022 on fox now this toolbox..get a life numnuts..people these days take the job for the 1st and the 16th..if you take this job do what you star says and BE THE POLICE period...if you just want a paycheck i heard target is hiring..

12/20/2007 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Ash Kopf said...

Be very careful what you post here boys and girls. SCC is at least a mouth piece for the FOP, (an arm of the Daley Machine), or more likely a member, or aspiring member of the board.

12/20/2007 03:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a tool!

12/20/2007 05:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Asshat!!!

12/20/2007 05:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC - isn't this the same guy who was passing out information about union corruption before the last FOP meeting? The FOP settled a case against it for over $500,000 including attorneys' fees. No mention of that SCC. THE FOP IS NOT INSURED! The money is going to come out of FOP members' dues. Gee - is SCC part of the FOP Board?

12/20/2007 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP is a fraternal organization for all police officers regardless of rank.

Since it is a bargaining unit, supervisors can join at a reduced rate but the FOP will not assist them in legal matters, department problems, etc.

What's the harm?

12/20/2007 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous wharej603 said...

SCC
This post is for you because I doubt you will give my response to your readers.

Donahue is the first FOP President that has allowed members of the board who were POs when elected to remain on the board once promoted to Sgt.
I had issues with past FOP President Nolan but at least no board member under his tenure was a Sgt.
How can Voight and Majerczyk wear two hats advising members how to deal with the department and at the same time Sparring the same individuals. Impossible

Take away the $400.00 a month Voight and Majerczyk get of member's union dues, free drinks and they wouldn't be there and if they say they would donate the $15,000 each that you Voight and Majerczyk will get from dues and donate it to the Gold Star Families; knowing those two it ain't happening.

SCC if you believe that Sgts should be on the board why can't they run for office as Sgts. Why didn't you or Donahue's group propose a By Law change to make it happen.

Why?

Because you know and Donahhue knows it would be the end to his $186,000 salary and the gravy train is over if he gave that issue to the members.

As far as the Sgts in FOP they would remain members of the State and National Lodges as they are truly "Fraternal" organizations.

SCC do yourself a favor and instead of being a parrot for Donahue look and the Federal Tax returns for FOP LOdge 7 and the FOP Illinois State Lodge.

Lodge 7 declares as required by IRS to state their purpose to which they respond representing officers in union matters directly opposit to the Illinois State fop declares a "fraternal" benefits for members.

Stay tunes this is just the begining election time creates concern with the executive board of FOP Donahue, Dougherty, Bella, DiMaria Fallon Capprelli and Davis as those $100,000.00 dollar salaries and make your own hours (no one is watching) are over and back to the rank and file.

PS I arrived at the general meeting to past out information about the $$$$Lawsuit and was just in time to see the arrival of Fallon in a cab as his vehicle is parked right in front of the union hall and he didn't want to lose his spot no doubt a little xmas shopping..... and Frankie you were really late.

wharej603

12/20/2007 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who are the sgt's on the board? Are there really any on the board?

12/20/2007 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY SCC,
Do you have an agenda??? The FOP is for members that are NOT management!!!! If you think a Sgt. can provide advice, direction etc. contrary to the goals and mission of management you are absolutley ignorant. Are you aware that once you become a member of management Sgt. LT. You can never return to
D2A-D2 or D1 status?? Thats right you give up the right to return because you are now MANAGEMENT!! The point is they have the responsibility to enforce dept. goals, missions and directives that are OFTEN contrary to the FOP goals for its membership. DO NOT blame one guy for standing up to this blatant contradiction!! Maybe it is because you have such strong ties to BELLA??? I wonder???

12/20/2007 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pat hill tryed to get a spot at the academy when she came back from her LOA (prior to her retirement), but was told "were not looking at resumes right now". I imagine that she wouldn't have retired if given a slot in which she would be able to produce future pat hills.

12/20/2007 08:47:00 AM  
Blogger SECOND CITY SARGE said...

Wayne has a valid point. How does an officer initiate a complaint against a supervisor/management when his Union has Supervisor/Management on the Board?

That smacks of impropriety,is a blatant conflict of interest & in itself is a violation of the By-Laws.
How does the Union act in the best interests of it's membership when Management can influence dicate policy?
You're way off base on this pertinent issue SCC,Talk about Silly People.

12/20/2007 12:27:00 AM

You Sir are a moron! There are no mechanisms to remove a trustee who is elected by the members and during his term is then promoted. Your contention that management is dictating policy is an absurd argument. I seriously doubt that these two sergeants represent the management of the Chicago Police Department while serving as trustees. They can only vote on issues that are fraternal in nature i.e. picnic, golf outing, fishing tournament etc. etc. These are hardly issues that have a profound effect on the interest of the membership. I'm confident that the management of the Chicago Police Department gives a rat's ass as to whether the FOP picnic be at Gaelic Park or Santa's Village.
Wayne Harje needs to get a life!
By the way I am a dues paying member of PB&PA and when I was promoted to sergeant I was offered an invitation to remain as a fraternal member of FOP. I pay my $50 a year to keep that membership.

12/20/2007 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To wharej603,
You are a no good hum jobber. You are the ONLY one ever kicked out of a union, fraternal organization, or whatever you choose to call this thing called fop.

12/20/2007 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey wharej603,

How much have YOU AND HALLAN (?) cost the FOP with your court cases and complaints? When the FOP has to answer your complaints, which NEVER go anywhere, (and I might add has had you kicked out of the FOP because of no fault but your own) they cannot attend to IMPORTANT business. LIKE THE CONTRACT! SO just go away! You are a bitter person with no life. Merry Christmas.

12/20/2007 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Former 022 Ranger said...

As a man with almost as much time as Bernard Kelly on the job, I have some advice for you young people. I know it seems unnatural to arrest a fellow Officer(you know,we all were blue).The main thing is you cover your ass.Guys like Kelly are out there and they are looking to jam up white coppers. When I was a rookie we had Boise Shorter and Cliff Richardson, who are carbon copies of Bernard Kelly.Once they start with that racial profiling shit and refuse to show identification, place them under arrest, and notify your Sergeant.DO NOT cut them any slack or you will regret it. Know the haters from the legit coppers.In a perfect world we all wear blue. In the world of the Bernard Kelly's they only wear Black. Never second guess yourself. Your gut is the right choice.

12/20/2007 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PS I arrived at the general meeting to past out information.........

wharej603

12/20/2007 07:41:00 AM


PAST out information???? And this retard wants to run our union??? This goof is a Detective???

12/20/2007 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

Excuse me, but is that a little egg on your face? Right there..... no more to the left...... there. Got it.

Silly people, indeed.

12/20/2007 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ya why follow rules?? I mean if EVERY ONE breaks the same rule it's not a legit rule, right????

12/20/2007 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead of this half dicked pissing contest, why don't we worry about important things, like making sure our pension is funded or lifing the residency rule?

12/20/2007 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great, just what I needed another CR (guess that puts me on the BA radar now).....does this mean I get a refund on all dues I paid???

12/20/2007 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have just been promoted from Asshat to Tubesteak.

12/20/2007 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, snap!! Harej, you piece of shit. Called out again and exposed as the giant jackass you have always been.

Wait. What's that? Nobody gives a crap? Your co-workers are not rushing to your defense? Exactly.

Go fuck yourself, retard.

12/20/2007 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Brown, you're next. Fucking traitor.

12/20/2007 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wayne Harej . . .

This is obviously a kid who was beat up on the playground as a kid.

12/20/2007 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go Wayne.
Finally a guy why balls.
A rule is a rule.
This f.o.p needs to be broken up they don't shit for us, its just take care of ourselves.


Signed sick of it

12/20/2007 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice one sided reporting by SCC.
You bucking for a job with one of our local tabloids?

12/20/2007 12:39:00 AM

Scc after comments like that i do believe you are a sgt.

12/20/2007 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wharej603

12/20/2007 07:41:00 AM

i voted for you and would again i dont know your status but can you run next time ?

12/20/2007 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous HATER said...

YOUR TELLING US YOU WOULDNT MIND LT'S AND CAPTAIN ON THE BOARD TOO.

WE DONT HAVE ENUFF PATROL OFFICER FOR THESE SPOTS.

YOU HONESTLY THINK THE BOSSES ON THE FOP ARE GOING TO TAKE TIME.

MAYBE THEY SHOULD QUIT AND PAY THE FAIR SHARE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN A SGT'S GOING TO GET INTO AN OFFDUTY BARFIGHT AND NEED THE FOP TO SAY THAT CANT HELP IF ITS OFF DUTY.

WAYNE IS A STRANGE BIRD BUT YOU DONT KICK SOMEONE OUT OF THE UNION UNLESS YOUR TRYING TO HIDE THINGS.

12/20/2007 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quite simply put, give me a promotion and I'll shut up. This guy's probably to dumb to apply to take a promotional test so let's try this.

12/20/2007 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WAYNE IS A STRANGE BIRD BUT YOU DONT KICK SOMEONE OUT OF THE UNION UNLESS YOUR TRYING TO HIDE THINGS.

Agreed. Worked with Wayne in 015 when he was in review. If you guys would stop hating and sit down and talk to the man, you would see for the most part he is absolutely correct. The rules are there, they just don't want to follow them. When he brings this to their attention, they don't want to listen. Why did they file amended political disclosure returns with the State with the correct numbers on them? Because HE made them do so. Not that it really made a huge difference, but they were WRONG and he was RIGHT? Any one else have the BALLS to stand up to their union?
What's the latest movement on the contract? What is their take on the IPRB investigating shootings? You pay these clowns more than a dollar a day, every day of the year? What do you have?

I predict no contract till '09
What say you?

12/20/2007 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember years ago, had to be over 20 years, when Boise Shorter wore a tape recorder under his clothing and attempted to get a lieutenant or captain from 002 on something or other (I do not recall). They say the boss beat his ass.

When you came to 005 as a PPO the first thing you were told (by black and white) officers was not to trust him. Heck, he was in Cynthia White's test group for sergeant. She was meritorously promoted for wearing a wire for the feds against the 002 district tact team. He was made an FTO.

12/20/2007 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Al Jaglowski said...

The 20 September meeting:

Wayne Harej,.....said he would like to initiate a complaint because two sergeants are currently on the board of directors of the Fraternal Order of Police, which is in violation of Rule 54 (b) of the Department rules and regulations. Interim Superintendent Starks asked Mr. Harej to speak with Assistant Deputy Superintendent Debra Kirby of the Internal Affairs Division regarding these allegations.

Follow up at the 18 October meeting:

Wayne Harej said a complaint log number has been obtained regarding the alleged rule violation he raised at last month's meeting. He said that 325 individuals holding the rank of sergeant and above are members of the Fraternal Order of Police.


SCC,
Well, if I didn't think that you were in the pocket of the F.O.P. before, I sure do now. So let's see just how one-sided your comments are. Your labeling of this topic as "silly people" is remarkable.

First, please notice that Wayne's issue is with the two sergeants that have been using the F.O.P. Board of Director's positions as a part-time job. But his reasoning goes far beyond the approximately $5,000 per year that those TWO sergeants receive EACH. His reasoning is very valid because it is impossible to have a management person on this department protecting your rights. It is very easy for a boss to protect you in an informal setting, but when all hell breaks loose, you can bet their job will come first and you'll be left swinging in the breeze.

Second, his issue is not dealing with the members of the F.O.P. who happen to be sergeants. No one has ever said that they can't remain in a VERY different status in the F.O.P., so the fact that you queried as to whether "this guy" got CR's on 325 other sergeants is very disingenuous and shows how ignorant you really are of the facts. "Silly SCC", he got the C.R. on TWO sergeants who are in rule violations for remaining on the Board of Directors of the F.O.P. after their promotion to the rank of sergeant.

Third, maybe you should read minutes of the Board of Directors meetings and the trustee meetings to see just how much input these TWO sergeants have. And this input goes well beyond a picnic or a party. The fact that they are given an opportunity to speak is too much input.

Fourth, the last person prior to these TWO who was on the board who was promoted was Dominic Rizzi. Although he did think about staying in, he did not. Perhaps, he realized that it wasn't the right thing to do, or, perhaps, he just got tired of me yelling at him.

Fifth, at the September 2006 meeting in which by-law changes are brought up, there was a by-law change introduced that would have addressed the issue of TWO sergeants remaining on the board. This was soundly disposed of by President Donahue by his not permitting a separation of the room or a hand-count. The by-law was shot down by a group of "silly people" led by the TWO sergeants who made sure that the "nay" vote was yelled. In fact, one of the TWO sergeants, who shall remain nameless was quite upset that I would question his ethics about his reasons to remain. I suspect that his law practice was not doing all that well and he needed the extra money from that part-time job as a trustee on the F.O.P. for approximately $5,000 per year.

Yes, sometimes I don't always agree with Wayne, but this time you are so far off-base SCC, that it stinks.


Now, as far as the discussion of the very recent apparent settlement against the F.O.P. Maybe you should open up a thread to discuss the settlement of that lawsuit against the F.O.P. Officers. I would really be interested in seeing just how much people do or do not care about the fact that our board chose to "piss away" at least a half a million dollars or more, in some really stupid legal actions. But wait, there was an attorney who was sitting on the board (who just happened to be a sergeant), who probably should have known better. Well, the original request to settle, prior to a lawsuit being filed was a bit over $10,000. Wow, if that sergeant/attorney had any input in the decision to keep on fighting and to proceed through the process of multiple depositions, we just got seriously hosed.

Oh, btw, SCC, just where will that money come from (I ask rhetorically)? Will it come out of the general membership funds? Or will it come out of the Legal Defense funds which should be used to assist a police officer who gets jammed up?

Lastly, here is the info on the apparent settlement. Case No. 05C 7179, in front of Judge Virginia M. Kendall and Magistrate Judge Cole, in the United States District Court - Northeastern District of Illinois - Eastern Division. Julie E. Diemer, plaintiff v Fraternal Order of Police, Chicago Lodge 7, defendant.

Thanks,
Al Jaglowski

12/20/2007 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he got 38 y.o.j, never made a felony arrest.

12/20/2007 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No contract now for 2009 because of the proposed changes in discipline and OPS. Money and heath care costs were falling right into line.

It almost kills me to say the Wayne is right about the Sgt.’s but they can’t run as Sgt.’s so the matter will clear it self up an a few months. There is nothing in the by-laws to force them out. Nation wide almost ALL bargaining units cover everyone other than command staff. The city likes the divide and conquer method. They were trying to get the Sgt.’s back into FOP.

Wayne’s # 1 problem with FOP is he is not the President, a little Napoleon. It would be nice if he and his drunken buddy from 16 would just fade away.

Al Jaglowski raises a lot of good points when you take him one on one. But it is hard for him to move around without Wayne’s puppet strings. At the meeting when he was acting as Wayne’s surrogate, he was asked if these were his ideas and not Wayne’s. Al said he did it all by himself. The problem is when Wayne Faxed the paper work for this Al forgot to cut off the Fax to and from message numbers off the top of the paper work. Al turned beat red at being caught in a bold faced lie.

Al has a lot of good ideas but now after almost 30 years of knowing him I can’t depend on him telling me the truth anymore. It is a shame he is Wayne’s puppet now he could have brought a lot to the table without the strings.

Older revolver guy

12/20/2007 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Al.

Are you available to teach CHRIS?

12/20/2007 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wayne and Al Jag have run for FOP offices more than Roland Burris has run for statewide offices -- and that's a lot. Time and again, they have both shown themselves to be fringe players who can't get the support of the police. Why, you ask? Simple, I say. Once you meet Al and/or Wayne, you instantly realize that they are both brain damaged freaks that should never hold any elected office. The fact that these morons have remained gainfully employed for the past 20 years proves beyond any doubt that our union is strong. . . maybe too strong. Please attend more union meetings and have a conversation with one or both of these idiots. You'll see exactly what I mean.

12/20/2007 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PS I arrived at the general meeting to past out information about the $$$$Lawsuit and was just in time to see the arrival of Fallon in a cab as his vehicle is parked right in front of the union hall and he didn't want to lose his spot no doubt a little xmas shopping..... and Frankie you were really late.

wharej603

PS for you Wayne Muthafucka, I was at the meeting too. "Frankie" was not late at all, you fat bloated piece of shit. Frankie recently had a severe leg injury that would put you or any pussy such as yourself on disability, but he came back to work ASAP post-surgery with crutches, then a cane, now he is walking unassisted. He was at the meeting and he was there on time. You are a worthless piece of laughable shit. Go to hell. No one likes you. Not even your family. Fuck off, fat ass. You are not even in the FOP.

12/20/2007 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP is a fraternal organization for all police officers regardless of rank.

Since it is a bargaining unit, supervisors can join at a reduced rate but the FOP will not assist them in legal matters, department problems, etc.

What's the harm?


Plenty! Now Repeat after me, they are White Shirt Management. and do not care about you the blued shirt. If they had any integrity they would step down.

12/20/2007 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well what happens when I have a grievance against one of the Sgt's sitting on the board?????? Once again I'm fucked. Management sitting on the board and the city loves it.

12/20/2007 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WAYNE IS A STRANGE BIRD BUT YOU DONT KICK SOMEONE OUT OF THE UNION UNLESS YOUR TRYING TO HIDE THINGS.

12/20/2007 02:21:00 PM


I agree. The Fop helps Phil Cline with the memorial fund when they should be investigating it. This is a problem.

12/20/2007 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a sergeant, and I'm still a member of the F.O.P. Lodge 7. But I'm a FRATERNAL member only. I don't get any contractual benefits from the F.O.P. I get the handbook, small amount of life insurance and stickers. I could but do not attend the annual picnic. I still get a ballot in the mail for elections, but I recuse myself from voting.

If the two sergeants on the board of directors had any honor, they'd resign their positions. Actually, they should have resigned right after they took the oath of sergeant.

On the bright side, they cannot run for re-election, so they're lame ducks.

12/20/2007 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous wharej603 said...

wharej603
If Majerczyk and Voight would have done the honorable thing they would have resigned for the good of the order and not made this an issue but the almighty dollar and free drinks and conventions and the encouragement of Donahue who does not respect the members opinions in the first place allowed these two to get a piece of the golden egg/the member's money.

Does anyone believe that Voight and majerczyk are so valuable that we could not see actual members of our unino on the board

Majerczyl is on the Constitution and By Laws Committee at $50.00 a meeting plus buffet A Sgt determining the Constitution and Bylaws for police officers unbelievable!!!

Come on Gerry and Mike there is still time to do the honorable thing RESIGN FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER before JP comes in and throws you out you know the letter to JP has postage and see you at the January Police Board Meeting.

For all of you anonymous/kiss ass followers who choose to avoid the issue with attacking the messenger have at it people like you will NEVER stop the truth so carry on the only way you know how to. I would rather stand up for something then kiss someone's ass.

12/20/2007 11:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as we're talking about the union. Does anybody know that our union is being sued? there was some kind of sexual harassment beef and out union hired a female lawyer. Before the case could come to fruition, the female lawyer gets herself pregnant. So since she can't finish the case she asks for payment of her fees (aobut 12 thou) and she'll slip off quietly into the sunset. Well our present officers tell her to **** off and refuse to pay. Not only that they start some kind of sexual harassment of their own. They smoke in the building in front of her (even though its against the law), and a host of other kiddie activities. Well the female sued, and will win a hefty sun. She turned down the last offer of about $500,000. Everybody in the union office is mum about it. Now where do we think our union is going to come up with that kind of cash? No matter how you cut it, its going to come out of our pockets. the sad thing is that they're not letting this info out to the rest of us-and why should they? Its going to cost us big bucks. There's a couple mil in the lawyer's fund, but that's for the rest of us isn't it. Somebody has to put this on the record so that the national FOP can take a look at our leadership, and once its on the docket they can't duck the issue any more.

12/20/2007 11:52:00 PM  
Blogger Murphy40Pct said...

I'm glad you're here SCC, and I agree with you 95% of the time...but I think an apology for misrepresenting the facts (CRs on 300 some sgts) and supporting a highly flawed FOP is in order. The comparison to BK by some posters sounds like racism, and the anonymous insults are uncalled for. Thanks Wayne and Al for the posts.

12/21/2007 02:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any relation to Greg Jaglowsi, who in my opinion, is a SUPER HERO!

12/21/2007 05:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You are a worthless piece of laughable shit. Go to hell. No one likes you. Not even your family. Fuck off, fat ass. You are not even in the FOP.

12/20/2007 09:09:00 PM"
LADIES& GENTLEMEN,
SID DAVIS CHECKING IN & SPREADING A LIL CHRISTMAS CHEER !!

12/21/2007 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

daley is trying to do to Hoffamn what Dionahue did to Harje

12/21/2007 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It almost kills me to say the Wayne is right about the Sgt.’s but they can’t run as Sgt.’s so the matter will clear it self up an a few months. There is nothing in the by-laws to force them out. Nation wide almost ALL bargaining units cover everyone other than command staff. The city likes the divide and conquer method. They were trying to get the Sgt.’s back into FOP.


Good then maybe they will get 29 days for violation of rule 54
fukin punks

12/21/2007 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the two Sgt's on the board were PO's when elected to that board. As such there is no mechanism to force them out until the next FOP election, that cannot run again for the FOP board as Sgt's.

Now which PO among you would, once you made Sgt., would quit a side job that meets once a month and pays what, $400 or $500 for that day? Hell, if I were there I would do the same, show me the money. Next election thay can't run. A change in by-laws is needed to force a board member out once promoted or otherwise leaving the rank and file.

So far they have just done what every other copper in this city does, fill their pockets with some free money, and why?

Because they can.

I'd do the same.

12/21/2007 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PS for you Wayne Muthafucka, I was at the meeting too. "Frankie" was not late at all, you fat bloated piece of shit. Frankie recently had a severe leg injury that would put you or any pussy such as yourself on disability, but he came back to work ASAP post-surgery with crutches, then a cane, now he is walking unassisted. He was at the meeting and he was there on time. You are a worthless piece of laughable shit. Go to hell. No one likes you. Not even your family. Fuck off, fat ass. You are not even in the FOP.

Sounds like YOU are the sad, sorry, bitter man, NOT Wayne. You resort to profanities and personal attacks on this Detective because he provides a valid point that you and your fellow FOP cohorts don't want the membership to know about. A rule violation is a rule violation, and we need people like Wayne Harej to speak for us even if he really gets UNDER YOUR SKIN!!!

12/21/2007 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Rosemarie "Ro" Giambalvo said...

First of all, Wayne Harej is not a goof or a strange bird. Secondly, I have had the pleasure of knowing Wayne for well over eight years and find him to be someone who should be respected and looked up to. It's so amazing when FOP election is upon us, all the snakes come crawling out from under their rocks to disparage someone's reputation. Come on, guys and gals, don't run the same negative campaign as done in the past. Focus on the issues and the best person for the positions. Someone who cares about the welfare of the membership, not just themselves. It's not worth it, if you have to ruin someone's life by smearing their names on blogs or message boards. GADS, grow up! Keep up the great work, Wayne. You are OK in my book, and I would vote for you in a heartbeat.

12/21/2007 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous indaknow lil bro said...

You're a fucking idiot then Ro. Wayne got expelled from the union for leaking restricted info to outside parties including the media. Wayne is out for Wayne and Wayne alone.

Now go away and sue other cops u goof. You already cost Orseno one board. Don't cost him another.

12/21/2007 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Ro said...

LOL, Must have hit a nerve bro. At least I sign my name, more than I can say for YOU. I know Wayne was expelled but not for the reason you just posted. YOU KNOW THE TRUTH!! So, Oresno is the host of this blog too, very interesting. Thanks for the info....

12/21/2007 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ro, you are an idiot! Look whose talking, you just came out of the woodwork again recently, during election time. You haven’t been to the FOP in years and all of sudden you start showing up at the FOP general meetings and act like you care about the membership. What a joke!

A few months ago you were asked a question, but you never answered it. So I will ask you again. YOU collected dues from the members of The Disabled Chicago Police Officers Association, an organization which you founded and are the president of. Did you pay a portion of your mortgage for your home in Las Vegas because you had an office in your home? If so, when you sold your home in Las Vegas a few years ago, and made a hefty profit, did you share the profit with the disabled officers in your organization? Did the disabled officers that paid you dues know that they were paying part of your mortgage?

What happened to DCPOA? Where is it now? Where’s the money YOU collected from disabled officers and their families? Oh and by the way weren’t you kicked off a blog for retired coppers because of your negative remarks? Quit acting like the voice of reason because you just show how much of an idiot you really are.

You and Wayne belong together! You are the perfect couple!

12/21/2007 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ro,

You see how erroneous the reader's information was regarding the reason Harej got expelled. you're going to take his word that Orseno has anything to do with this site? I work with Brian and he has ZERO to do with this site. It's run out of Area 3. Where? I don't know. But it certainly is interesting that you're all eager to pin it on Brian. You looking for another lawsuit to file against police officers?

12/21/2007 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Ro said...

I have a great idea, why don't you call me 815-751-7030 or write me at girlcop5941@aol.com and I will be happy to answer all your questions, no matter how ridicules they are. Someone inside FOP is still afraid of me. Glad to see I can still make a difference.

Harej told me nothing about Orseno.

Look at the poster indaknow lil bro said...
You already cost Orseno one board. Don't cost him another. Lil bro is the snitch...LOL

12/21/2007 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Ro said...

If anyone is really interested in knowing how the DCPOA was operated, how the little money we did received was used, they are certainly entitled to have copies under the freedom of information act.

After I receive a written request. indicating what documents someone wanted to look at, I will go to the storage facility and pull the records pertaining to those requests, and make the necessary copies. You just need to send me your name, address and phone and a check for $10 for copying and postage.

We at DCPOA,. Accomplished what we set out to do, and every officer on disability at that time reaped the reward of our hard work. We disbaded our organization since the goals were complete.

Please feel free to call Rosemarie 815-751-7030 or write me at girlcop5941@aol.com I have nothing to hide and will produce what documents you need..Looking forward to.

12/21/2007 11:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Al JAGlowski, you no good, backstabbing, pen recording wearing, maher snitch! Stray retired. You were only as good as the people around you who would cover your overtime stealing ass could help you. Oh thats right, lest we forget "I have a heart problem" and yet you still managed to go diving while on the medical. Glad you're gone, now you can't tell other peoples storys anymore.

12/22/2007 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S
Btw, Wayne IS a goof!

12/22/2007 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So far they have just done what every other copper in this city does, fill their pockets with some free money, and why?

Because they can.

I'd do the same.


You sir I feel sorry for. Your life must be very sad, living without a moral compass. I hope you don't have children to pass on your get wisdom. Oh and please speak for your self. signed Not a thief

12/22/2007 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ro,

Dumb ass. Why don't you post the letter of apology you sent to Bill Nolan at FOP for your lies. Please. Show everyone who you really are.

Ladies and Gentlemen, beware
Ro. It is true that Ro and her lies caused the original Second City website to be shut down. Ask her about it.

12/22/2007 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a Sgt., so maybe I shouldn't comment on this. But seeing how badly the FOP has represented the blue shirts for the past two years or so, I don't think it's a particularly bad thing for Wayne to be without a union. A lot of folks who pay regular dues into the FOP apparently already feel that way.

12/22/2007 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he got 38 y.o.j, never made a felony arrest.

12/20/2007 05:25:00 PM

Statistically speaking, wouldn't that kind of be impossible?

12/22/2007 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets just get the contract settled! Seiser will be President of FOP soon enough and will throw out everyone including all the office people and replace with officers will balls! That is all!

12/22/2007 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a Sgt., so maybe I shouldn't comment on this. But seeing how badly the FOP has represented the blue shirts for the past two years or so, I don't think it's a particularly bad thing for Wayne to be without a union. A lot of folks who pay regular dues into the FOP apparently already feel that way.

12/22/2007 05:05:00 PM

Listen Jackass, if you are a Sergeant, you certainly MUST be aware that your union is a complete joke. The City is begging the FOP to give them shit at contract negotiations. The Sergeants get no such respect. Your union leadership and lawyers are worthless. When our "blue shirts" get in trouble, none of them go running to your union for help. Plenty of Sergeants run to the FOP.

Shut up.
Jackass Fool.

12/22/2007 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A rule violation is a rule violation, and we need people like Wayne Harej to speak for us even if he really gets UNDER YOUR SKIN!!!

12/21/2007 05:06:00 PM

Listen Ma'am,

If you need imbeciles like Harej to speak for you, you are utterly and profoundly RETARDED. Retire now before your stupidity actually hurts someone other than yourself.

12/22/2007 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand why sgts, lts, and captains cant be in the same union as us. The fire department union covers everyone up to the rank of battalion chief, which is equivalent to our captain and they have no problems with it. Our supervisors are not really management, as they don't meet the federal government criteria for true management personnel.

12/23/2007 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ladies and Gentlemen, beware
Ro. It is true that Ro and her lies caused the original Second City website to be shut down. Ask her about it.

___________________________________

Let’s not forget how SHE and her organization cost ALL disabled officers from receiving 75% of current salary had they been working at all times. Her organization hounded the politicians and gave ALL Chicago Disabled Police Officers a bad name. Let’s not forget how she IS involved with suing the FOP also at the present time. So beware of her she could screw up a 1 car funeral.

12/23/2007 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wayne "RJ" is a clown, but he's correct.

A supervisr should not be on the board for obvious (conflict) reasons.

If there is any grey area, for the good of the entire membership, which they claim to serve, they should step down. NOW!!!

I was a unit rep for over 6 years.

I stopped being the rep because of all the silly BS and lies that went on at the meetings.

The prez, no matter who would have the final say. After some stuttering.

At least nutty RJ would keep talking to have his point heard.

The whole board is screwed up.

I never received any help with anything from Fallon or anyone else. They are police officers, not specialist in contract negotiations or disciplinary issues.

Regardless, like all the other typical Chicago BS, it is a never ending cycle.

As a Sgt. you should realize the appearent conflict.

12/23/2007 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I don't understand why sgts, lts, and captains cant be in the same union as us. The fire department union covers everyone up to the rank of battalion chief, which is equivalent to our captain and they have no problems with it. Our supervisors are not really management, as they don't meet the federal government criteria for true management personnel.

12/23/2007 01:53:00 AM

True they are not management! Management is the boy scouts as they ahve true "leaders" we have a bunch of clouted idiots who "wish they had a brain"! They make this dept look like shit everyday! Great job taking care of the kids and elected friends and family programs this is what has got cpd into the shit hole it is in!

12/24/2007 07:49:00 AM  

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