Once Again - Silence
For the second police shooting in a row, utter silence from the media and the reverends:
Police reportedly shot and killed a man in the Little Village neighborhood early Friday on the West Side.
The shooting happened about 4 a.m. in the 4200 block of West Ogden Avenue, said Ilana Rosenzweig, chief administrator for the newly formed Independent Police Review Authority.
Rosenzweig said the officer responding to a call when he fatally shot the man.A spokesman for the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office could not confirm the fatality as of 6:35 a.m.
The IPRA is reviewing the shooting, but no further information could be released, she said
No protests. Minimal media outcry. TV news virtually ignoring the entire episode.
Maybe this not having Bonds and Camden with their canned speech is doing some good? If no one is giving any media or reverends any info, then they have nothing to contradict and raise hell about. We'll continue to follow their lead - no names, initials or info forthcoming. We'll leave this thread open so people can comment on whether they agree or disagree with the IPRA policy.
So far, it seems to be working and that's something we didn't expect.
Maybe this not having Bonds and Camden with their canned speech is doing some good? If no one is giving any media or reverends any info, then they have nothing to contradict and raise hell about. We'll continue to follow their lead - no names, initials or info forthcoming. We'll leave this thread open so people can comment on whether they agree or disagree with the IPRA policy.
So far, it seems to be working and that's something we didn't expect.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
72 Comments:
Silence usually just means a storm is brewing in this city.
All officers safe...thank God.
I agree with anything SCC does to stifle the media, the politicians, and jitney Reverends in Chicago. Keep their fact-spinning asses in the dark, all of them. the less they know, the less they can twist around and use against us. They are all a bunch of PARASITES, plain and simple.
It's because the 'victim' wasn't black.
"So far, it seems to be working and that's something we didn't expect"
Wow! You mean that the great all-seeing, all-knowing SCC is capable of human error? Failed to anticipate something? Was wrong?
Glad to hear it. You definitely need a dose of humility. At least it's a start
Buried on the bottom of Page 30 of the Dec. 27th Sun-Times under a story about biodegradable coffins...
" 2007 a deadly year for cops
WASHINGTON - a record number of fatal traffic incidents and a double diget
spike in shooting deaths led to one of the deadliest years for law enforcement
officers in more than a decade, according to two Washington groups. AP"
Stay Safe
I'm all for the new policy of no talking.
Don't give the media any rope to hang us!
YAHOO YIPPEE 6 months of retro so far!!!! ENJOY your retro checks, well spent in the suburbs.
actually its JUST THE WEATHER, Revs. don't like standing around in their Armani Suits in the snow.
If you want to have the things that other units have then go join them. I could care less about what they do. Its none of my business.
What I do care about is how we as a team of Police officers sit and do nothing about our contract.
I for one and most around me only answer our calls and write as much paper as we can. NO REVENUE!
But the vast majority will go out there and suck up more kool aid and cheese. makes me sad!
Happy new Year!
To the PO's that gave Rep. Danny Davis, please continue to go to court and tell the truth. Saw that this idiot got a continuance this week. I am sure he did the "do you know who i am" shit when you stopped him. Just the opposite of this, earlier this spring on Wacker Dr. I assisted on a T-Stop. The driver of the car was David Axelrod (Campaign Mgr. for Barak Obama). The plates on the car he was driving was expired and he said the car belonged to his son. They were only expired a few days. He was a perfect gentleman and at no time did he say who he was. I only remembered him because a few weeks before he was the subject of an featured article in the Trib. sunday magazine. I am sure he could have done the " I am running the Obama for Prez." routine but he never did. He gave an explanation was nice and courteous. Before I left I just said. "good luck with your campaign." He looked kinda surprised and rode off. These are the kind of people we give courtesy to. Not some asshole trying to make us look bad. I would suggest to all you PO's that as soon as someone say, "do you know who i am," write them. Nothing but grief will come of it and you will have the evidence to back you up.
"No protests. Minimal media outcry. TV news virtually ignoring the entire episode."
Isn't it obvious SCC? Because of the recent toy give away, everyone loves us. Really
What the hell is going on? No rabid speculation in the press and with The Peeps of The Cloth?
I doubt the closed lipps policy by Rosenzweig et al. is the reason for lack of community "outrage". Call me a cynic, but it's because the incident happened south of Cermak Road and involved an offender of non-dark skin pigmentation.
Thankfully all officers went home safe!!
I suspect the lack of the typical "another police wild west" shooting reportage is more a result of the liberal writers in this city vacationing.
The reverends don't march for victims that aren't African American!
If Jody Weis was a tree, what kind of tree would he be?
chico said...
It's because the 'victim' wasn't black.
12/29/2007 02:05:00 AM
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Hey SCC let not give the new OPS too much credit.
I think Chico here said it best:
IT'S BECAUSE HE WASNT BLACK!
It's because the 'victim' wasn't black.
12/29/2007 02:05:00 AM
wow.....it's like you read my mind
SCC, why you taking money outta the hands of Frank 'n Fran?!
No protests. Minimal media outcry. TV news virtually ignoring the entire episode.
I take it the dead is not a black man....
OFF Topic:
Anyone see that asshole Danny Davis on the news giving interviews. He made a court appearance at traffic court where he plans to fight his citation.
Afterwards he tells the news that, only the officer who wrote the ticket was there and he thought that it was ODD that BOTH officers weren't there.
IMPLYING THAT SOMETHING WASN'T KOSHER!
Fuck that grandstanding piece-of-shit!
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Must be a slow news day. The biggest news story seems to be the amount of snowfall this December. They are reporting it as if we've had 3 blizzards and the most snow in December in the last 30 years.
I look out my window, and see barely any snow on the ground. I've only shoveled once this year.
Shit I remember the winter of 1979. I was driving a big old rear wheel drive car. No traction control or frontwheel drive back then unless you owned an olds toronado or Cadillac Eldorado. Shit..I didn't think it was that severe even back then!
NOW PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN SOFT! Crying about all sorts of insignificant shit!"Oh there is so much snow!" It's winter fool,Deal with it!
If Pookie gets shot in the ghetto and there is no reporter or reverand crying about it... did it really happen at all? Whoa... deep.
The city is finally doing something right with this.
If you come out with an early statement indicating a bias towards clearing the officers, it can be seen as bias by the public and the media and, gasp, PI attorneys. Particularly because its the spokesperson for the investigating agency that is providing the preliminary framework and finding.
So the statements are seen with a jaundiced eye, no matter that Camden was clearly the only one in decades to consistently frame the statements right ("in fear for").
The current policy is better. Right or wrong, let it die over a few months. And if the new OPS finds occasionally that a shooting was not legit, than discipline, if any, can be couched in administrative terms, and hopefully in a manner that does not in any way point to "intent" or wanton negligence.
This is, 100%, the right way to go about this.
I agree with 02:05, it is definitely because he isn't black!! They give a shit only when they can turn any police related shooting to look race related BUT only when an African American is involved. Just proof fellows, just proof.
The self proclaimed "revs" are only interested if the "victim" is black and there might be a buck to be made.
For all of you officers working the steets on New Years Eve...please be safe and careful. Getting the guns is great (I know, I did it in the late 80's early 90's in 011) but remember coming home safe and sound on New Year's Day to your family is the only really important thing. May the good Lord protect you all and Happy New Year...an old timer
I heard it was Prof. Plum in the dinning room and he used a candle stick!
Bastard!
That woman from L.A. pretends to be a friend of the police. She is NOT our friend. She would love to make a name for herself by jamming a copper on a shooting. If you ever have a conversation with her you will eventually get the same impression.
Off Topic: Hey, 16 wake up three shootings one which involved a homicide within a half mile of each other in less than a week, its time to DUMP the Commander of 16.
Officers are ok. The DOA had it comming. Carved up his family...wait a minute...that's all i'll say. I forgot, silence.
Don't be too quick to make any assumptions. No one has asked for any answers. And if the person who was shot isn't black, then of course there won't be an uproar. wait until that happens.
To 12/29/2007 03:38:00 AM
Forget to take your meds again?
Wishfull thinking but I dont think so. Give it a few more weeks and these asshole reverands and hate mongers will be up to their old tricks.
You dont think this gang loving Rev. Al spent all that money to open an office (set) here because he likes the weather do you.
You dont think that the witnesses who appear out of no where two days later and get paid well, or are promised a cut of the setlement are not still doing the same thing.
Nothing has changed. Remember Crack heads now are more credible than the Police in Crook County Courts.
The only differance is that no one will know the outcome until you are arrested and lose every thing.
Don't tell any of em anything, or deliberately give the news media a run around story, if possible. You know, sonmething like , Drew Peterson was seen climbing down chimneys dressed as Santa in Bolingbrook a few days ago , by several residents. Just don't tell the media that the residents were residents of the nut-house. They'll check it out, cause they're mostly college journalism educated idiots.
i like it. its nice not to see pookies mama on the tv sayin how the poolliccess be lyin on my baby
a hispanic gets killed and the west side revs dont say a thing. i bet if he was black there would be protests and outrage everywhere
So much for the "More Transparent New form of OPS."
all for it. i think its a great change
It only seems to be working in this one case.As someone pointed out hes not black so no online Revs. Without official word the media will get their information from idiots near the scene who were nowhere near the incident when it happened but will claim the police shot the unarmed person in the back and how yes he had 5 kids from 5 momas and criminal record but was getting his life on track as evidenced by his participation in a charitable basketball game and rapping prowess. Also expect more images of the offenders 5th cousin 5 times PLAY removed to be wailing uncontrollably in the background.
an entire day of no updates! my bet... SCC got a DUI
Why is TRU only working 2000-0100 on New Years Eve?????
Be safe. Go home at the end of your tour.
Silence is the new strategy along with Daley saying "I don't know".
Off Topic: Are the brass going to implement again their great New Years idea to drive through the crap neighborhood side streets with lights and sirens running at midnight?
Was on the scene that night and although I personally would not trust her, Rosenzweig really doesn't seem that bad.
off topic
some sick *&&$# poisoned and killed (2) dogs of Chicago Bear Adam Archuleta and Playboy Playmate Jennifer Walcott.
Watch your pets out here...
thats because the offender was hispanic, if he was black then it would be a madhouse. reverends demanding to know what this cloaked organization known as ipra was hiding from the public and through outrageous allegations like the IPRA is the SS (staffershutzel) of the CPD and that the westside reverends invented the question mark. and the CPD will sit quietly being hated and bashed in the media. and suburbanites will continue to make faces when they find out im a cop. when a year ago they would of basked in the light of my exagerated and blown out of proportion stories of "bookin" bad guys.
You want to see the Hispanic community up in arms? Mention the "G" word. That's gentrification. The Pilsen Alliance will be out there with bullhorns, signs, and anti-white rhetoric in no time!
"If Pookie gets shot in the ghetto and there is no reporter or reverand crying about it...", then, is Pookie really dead?
I mean, really, REALLY dead?
12/29/2007 08:19:00 PM
Really? YaY! Illuminate a target! Nice thinking you brass douchebags!
The reverends don't march for victims that aren't African American!
12/29/2007 11:50:00 AM
Are you impling that the Reverends from the Souff and Wez sides Make Believe Church of the 14th deliverence Church of my Bently needs a tune-up so dig deep and give.
Are you saying that they are indifferent to police shootings of Americans of African decent? NO this cant be so because that would imply that the Reverends harbor latent racist tendencys. The silence would then be a tacit admission of Racism.
No other conclusion can be drawn then. So bottom line is that the Rev's are no better than the Ku Klux Klan.
p.s. Can we now change to protest rant of "No Justice No Peace No racist Poolize" to "No shit we racist reverends now give cause I needs that new Rolls Royce"
So does IPRA have any REAL TRAINED INVESTIGAtORS? Or can anyone apply and get the title???
Do they do background checks?
I wonder how many people there have IR#'s???
Off Topic: Hey, 16 wake up three shootings one which involved a homicide within a half mile of each other in less than a week, its time to DUMP the Commander of 16.
12/29/2007 03:01:00
Well maybe it would be solved if you became a copper in 016... I am not. I work in a district out west and if you hear of the coppers transfering into 016 you might keep your mouth shut. A lot of ghetto coppers (for all of you who think they are the only police) a lot of tact and gang officers from other districts are starting to come into 016 to police their own backyard. Dump the commander??? You are a tool... This shit happens all over the city but you want to let a DC and the coppers who work for the DC to be held accountible. The district is 3times the size it should be with half the manpower. They lose a gang team every single night and rapid cars on weekends. instead of spouting off about dumping a DC you should be hounding your alderman to keep the police in the district they work in.
Why is TRU only working 2000-0100 on New Years Eve?????
We tried for 2000-0001 but it got shot down.....
"They lose a gang team every single night and rapid cars on weekends. instead of spouting off about dumping a DC you should be hounding your alderman to keep the police in the district they work in.
12/30/2007 02:55:00 AM"
Amen to that, when the aldermen meet Jodi, they should make him promise to keep the cops in the neighborhood.
Anonymous said...
Why is TRU only working 2000-0100 on New Years Eve?????
We tried for 2000-0001 but it got shot down.....
12/30/2007 03:44:00 AM
To many girls on this job snitching! Mind your own business tru does whatever it wants to get the hint!
baba wawa said...
If Jody Weis was a tree, what kind of tree would he be?
12/29/2007 11:55:00 AM
When he's done here, a Weeping Williow.
or The Larch......The Larch....
Writing a mover to the goof who says, "do you know who I am" has been enforce for the past 28 years that I've been on the job. Had a good one myself a few months back...stopped a guy on Milwaukee Ave. with the LIDAR gun doing 52 in a 30. First thing he says, "hey, I WORK for the ALDERMAN". Well let me tell ya, I couldn't write the ticket fast enough.
In court his lawyer pled him out to supervision. This guy really was a clown.
The reverends do not like hispanics. The hispanics are taking over and revamping the south side. Blacks are being pushed out of the city. Hispanics are generally unsympathetic to the reverends demands and, as they move up the power chain, the reverends will lose what little pull they have left.
Hispanics don't have time to hang around a "church" and bring the reverends "gifts." They're too busy working.
Where is the glamour photo of the dead hispanic in his yellow bowler?
DAMN RIGHT Jody should dump the 016 commander.
The new system should be that district commanders hold fairs and try to encourage good police to go there.
The commander will tell you, "Officer, I see you have made numerous arrests. I would like you to come to my district. I know that other commanders have also given you offers, but let me tell you what I can offer you....."
If crime goes up, the commander gets dumped, so they better come up will some good offers. And have donuts at the fair, and the good ones too, not a dozen dunkin donuts, but ones from a bakery. And coffee too.
Its gonna be great.
In defense of 016,to all the people talking shit about 016, here's my two cents (I never worked 016).
It's easy to be the police in a ghetto district where hot cars and uuw's fall out of trees, 015 comes to mind. Great district, good officers, booty rock pinches all day long. Plus it takes all of 1-2 minutes to get from end-to-end in traffic.
Try going to 016,017,018 or districts like that, where you have to be more patient, deliberate, and tactful to get those types of arrests (if you still have the desire to). Plus it takes 15-20 minutes to cover the district because it's so big.
It takes a whole different method of policing.
Working in district law enforcement and city-wide, I've spent a lot of time in 013,014,015,and 025 in my career, plus a little time in all of the other didtricts.
Look at the district manpower. 003 is a small district geographically, but last time I looked they had as many or more officers than 025 which is geographically larger and busier.
I guess my whole point is that we are all "the real police" no bald guy versus hair gel etc. Go where you think you can work and "make a difference" Work in the hood, or protect your home turf(016,022,008 or where ever else coppers reside these days!)
Just have fun, and go home in the same condition as when you left, and ensure the same for your co-workers.
Happy 2008! Be careful and stay safe.
signed,
Still wanting to be the police, NOT retired on-duty!
is jody a grossman or orton guy?
Why is TRU only working 2000-0100 on New Years Eve?????
We tried for 2000-0001 but it got shot down.....
12/30/2007 03:44:00 AM If we get a gun we go home sooner....So fuck off....Good to be TRU.....Don't hate us because we are better than you at being the real Police.
TRU the real police, yeah if being the real police means doing udr's and long forming people instead of writing an anov and asking your sgt how to do everything. Oh not to forget getting into a huddle with your entire team and having your sgt in the middle telling you how to write paper on a hype with a rock while everyone whispers. If you guys are going home early on new years eve if you bring in a gun, then all of tru is working 8 hrs that night!
TRU PLAYER said...
Why is TRU only working 2000-0100 on New Years Eve?????
We tried for 2000-0001 but it got shot down.....
12/30/2007 03:44:00 AM If we get a gun we go home sooner....So fuck off....Good to be TRU.....Don't hate us because we are better than you at being the real Police.
12/30/2007 07:05:00 PM
Real Police Tru daffyintion: Went to college spent lots of money got drunk and high a lot, shit grades, friends got good jobs with nice pay and time to raise a family,living in suburbs. Now I am on cpd and am really the best copper ever just ask me! Guess I am a typical "applehead cop"!
"The new system should be that district commanders hold fairs and try to encourage good police to go there.
The commander will tell you, "Officer, I see you have made numerous arrests. I would like you to come to my district. I know that other commanders have also given you offers, but let me tell you what I can offer you....."
Yeah I can just see you struttn around like a peacock w/ a fresh buzzcut, all your ribbons& wearing your leather gloves. Thank God I don't have to get in a squad car w/ a full of himself Stone A-Hole like You!!
To 1:05 PM
Dude, you are really a deep Dude. I like the concept. I would like to experiment with this idea. It is like, you know, most excellent. When I see Pookie I will discuss this with him, afterall he's got nothing to do the rest of his life expect sit around county jail.
it's 2008 already... is Pooky shotified yet?
WWJD - What would Jody do?
Inquiring minds want to know.
12/30/2007 01:34:00 PM
Thanks, I need a new keyboard now! Spit coffee all over it.
Bowler, fucking funny, man!
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