Payroll Screw Ups
Once again, can't anyone in this City figure out how to pay people what they are owed, on time and accurately?
Hundreds of off-duty Chicago cops who moonlight as part-time school security officers could be the latest group of employees to be victimized by Chicago Public Schools paycheck problems.
CPS officials say the officers should have been contributing to Social Security, so CPS will dock their pay to cover the missing contributions.
Officials of the union that represents more than 600 of the off-duty or retired officers contend CPS erred in not withholding the contributions, so they say CPS should cover the amount owed to Social Security.
This represents the latest screw up in the CPS payroll system. We recall CPD had similar issues a year or two back when switching systems. We'd bet a month's retro pay it won't be fixed in two years when we finally get a contract.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
57 Comments:
What the fuck does that matter anyway?
As a person receiving a penson in Illnois you do not qualify for social security.
Do they go after these people for back payments and they will never see their benefits
All can thank D Rostenkowski, and I know it is most likely spelled wrong
sux to work for CPS
hate to tell you girls but the CPS aint responsible for paying the social security
its the employees wo should have known this
This will become a common occurrence..Gotta pay for them damn Olmypics!.Its just silly,really silly to expect anything less from the City that works only when you have a no-bid city contract to a mafia connected company....
Just like the city police payroll system many get screwed, short money, the new dog guys still have not received their D-2 pay and it has been over 9 months! The head of police payroll has no clue what he is doing, just another political hack!
Arne Duncan strikes again!
Contract in 2 years....I say not until 2011. And we will sit and do nothing about it too!
LET ME GUESS NONE OF THE OFFICER NOTICED THIS FOR ALL THOSE MONTHS?
SURE THE CITY SHOULD PAY! AND WHO DO YOU THINK THE CITY IS, IT US.
THAT SIMPLE THINKING WILL GET YOU KILLED IN THE STREETS.
actually- you do get benefits, you just get half a check -which you will need to pay your medical insurance premium
the more important part about SS benefits is the ability to qualify for Medicare-you'll need it!
1100hrs
You do qualify for social security if you contributed for 40 quarters. But because of Rostenkowskis doing, it will be at a much lower rate.
yeah, you get a pension and the SS money goes down the tubes. in this case it is cps security and they don't know that you get a pension, just like any private job you do on the side. thank rostenkowski and pay the SS tax.
who do these morons think they are, thinking they will not have to pay the retro SS money? that wouldn't fly anywhere, even if the cps screwed up.
You DO qualify for S.S., just at a reduced rate. There is a bill in congress now trying to change that although I am not optimistic. I believe the rate is reduced by
40%. I am entitled to S.S. from my service time and the fact I worked for 5years prior to coming on the job. I came in on 1976 so I did not pay into S.S. while being the police.
Yes you can collect Social security,just won't get full anount due you. Its discounted because you draw a CPD pension.
To 11:00:00
Yes you can receive Social Security benefits. They are just reduced.I worked in private industry and collect, also your military service counts towards your benefit.
11:00 pm is incorrect.
If you have your 40 quarters in with Social Security you will get something, it isn't a lot, but you get something.
Legislation is pending in Congress to rectify this.
What is more important that officers, especially younger ones, see a financial planner. The Patrolmen's Credit Union has one that is free. Your pension and whatever you have in Deferred Comp won't be enough in the future.
Buy a cheaper car next time and put the difference in the payment in some sort of annuity or two. Two is better, spread the money around to lessen the impact if one fund has hard times.
You spelled Rostenkowski's name correctly.
But unfortunately, the error falls upon the employee - federal law states that.
Funny thing is that certain federal employees, such as congressional aides, are exempt from this law, which is called the Windfall Act.
It is only those who DON'T count that must forfeit their money that they worked so hard for.
The mistake belongs to the CPS, but the employees will bear the burden.
Funny thing is, as said, you will pay, but reap none of the benefits.
If the Chicago Board of Education can't figure out how to correctly pay its teachers, part-time security officers, and retirees, it is no wonder the Board can't figure out how to effectively teach students.
Wouldn't the CPS fall under the same rule that the rest of the city does where anyone hired after 1986 pays a medicare deduction instead of social security?
"...so they say CPS should cover the amount owed to Social Security."
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? CPS DOESN'T OWE THESE COPS NOTHING .... GIMME GIMME GIMME ...
EMBARRASSING THAT THE UNION WOULD SAY THIS .....
This TRU is GREAT!!!!! I spent the whole night at my house when my partner dropped me off. Same thing for tomorrow! Talk about the cuts!!!!! You guys wish you could have clout and come he. We even have old SOS cars here with GPS but our bosses say we don't have to use them!!!! Fuck you inspectors we get last laugh. Oh yeah school starts soon, don't have to come in till 2100 hrs and you wonder why we make city money, they leave us alone. HAHAH you suckers in patrol!!!!!
I use to work for CPS--I actually called and asked to have SS taken out of my check and they said no since I was part time. This was four or five years ago.
The PO's who work for CPD are definately responsible for paying the Social Insecurity. Somebody has to pay for all the benefits and entitlements that the politicians pay to those who refuse to get a job, and the illegals who suck up resources here.
So shut-up and pay your far share (that was fun sounding like a democrat). See what happens when you keep electing Democrats into office! The redistribution of wealth is happening, and in my opinion its nothing short of a penality tax on those of us who have been fairly successful in life.
Merry Christmas to my brothers and sisters in blue.
p.s. How many days to the psuedo-Fed takeover of the CPD
So why should I pay Socoal Security if Im not going to get it?
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Since New Year's Day is a holiday, do we get paid on 31DEC07? Anyone?
hopefully the pay check of the fat fuck liberal in 023 who thinks mumia is innocent will get lost, too!
When Social Security was created there were about 40 workers in the workforce for every 1 retiree. Declining birth rates have lowered this ratio to a projected 3:1 workers for every retiree by the year 2020. No one mentioned this little tidbit at the time. The so called New Deal was a raw deal. When the American people Socialism put it's foot in the door via the Social Security ponzi scheme it was the most disasterous policy ever created in US history
Social Security must be abolished once and for all, for the sake of future generations.
If you collect a government pension you can only collect one third of the SSI benefits that you may have coming. And yes... it was that crooked jailbird fuck Rostenkowski who was responsible for this…
FYI, for those of you out there who continue to work second jobs while you are on the medical. You can and will be fired if the city finds out. Is it worth losing this job over a part-time???
I thought if you get your quarters in (40)for Social Security you would qualify for payments. You just won't get the whole thing- only a certain percentage. Thanks to the felon Rostenkowski. Perhaps someone can clarify this.
Speaking of screw-ups; how bout that moron crashing thru the window
at CH. 7. I thought that was a bad idea exposing those people to the public; what if some maniac comes someday w/a large weapon? Whoes ever idea that was ought to be flogged, then fired........
As a person receiving a penson in Illnois you do not qualify for social security.
A person collecting a government pension in Illinois will receive approximately 40% of what they are entitled to. We do get something....just not the same. Hopefully that is changed soon.
Merry Christmas to all my brothers in blue. Be careful out there and stick together please.
first of all you DO get social security with a Government pension, its just reduced by 60%
I heard Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White got a mover today by a CPD traffic unit car and got an I-Bond in 018. Anyone have the whole story on that one?
Profiling no doubt.
OFF TOPIC
Merry Christmas to SCC (and thanks for providing this forum) & my brothers and sisters on the job & those supportive civilians here (kateykakes for example) & even those haters and trolls that frequent this site (you know who you are)----Happy Holidays everyone!
where is my retro check? no contract, no workee. i just finished my tour and the only thing i worried about is do i want to eat crunch and munch or fiddle faddle? big bird lt. t.m. pulld up next to me and all i kept saying is if this test tube would ask me to step out of my cruiser i would have to answer why i dont have my shoes on and where is my vest and duty belt? maybe because it was x'mas eve big bird had blinders on. oh well, he can toss my salad if he thinks i give a rat's ass. six more months and the mayor can kiss my brown eye. that sounds silly. just silly.
TIME TO REFLECT ON THE THINGS OF MY JOB IN 2007:
Some things to give Thanks for:
The SCC folks or folk! if it wasn't for you or you all, I would be unamused lately and totally lost in the political propaganda the Ivory Tower makes me believe.
The "players and comedians" I call my co-workers out here! Also to The "nerds, wannabes, goofs, idiots,beefers,dorks, gangbangers,incompetents,loose cannons and assholes" that call me their co-worker!
The GPS system for without it I may get lost!
To the gas guys at the pumps!! BRRRRRRRR!
To JODY or J.P. - Well we'll soon see how things transpire as time goes!
To the Janitors at the stations that deploy the toilet paper and clean the piss off the seats!
To the R-Men and those other technical guys that fix our B.S.
To the FOP and their appreciation of BEER and well........ whatever else they do! Santas Village or whatever!
To Monique Bonds for her intrinsic knowledge of the police force for which she represents.
To Mary Mitchell (and her "pitbull face" which looks like my dog as he looks at me when he needs to go outside)for "keeping it REAL"
To all the ADS's and other bosses of CPD also DANA that got snubbed from J.P. coming on over.......Either GET YOUR RESUME together I hear it s all legit now or just face the music with all your credentials ....Good Luck!
To the motor maintenance guys that fix the HEAT in the winter and the A/C in the summer! Rock ON!
To the SWAT dudes......Take the SHOT! Enjoy the HBT's in the Artic frigid WEATHER as well as piping blistering hot as dude holds everyone at bay for hours (usually with NO BULLETS in his gun) as you WAIT! ENJOY!
To the DOC peoples and the NUMBER COUNTERS that are still trying to impress someone to advance themselves! You go GIRLS! Stay out of Jail for me! I'll be reading about you all in the SCC!
To the incoming and ready for action young patrolmen! My seniorty and amazement of the job evolves around you and your presence here so have fun and entertain us all and we will read about you in the SCC!
To the terrorists, gangbangers, liberal media and politicians monitoring the CPD, well YOU WIN! Again I just want to commend you all for shutting down an old PROACTIVE police force that held the city down and did what needed to be done! You won!
And best of luck trying fuigure out WHY kids are killing kids more and bringing guns to school and CRIME RATES rise and Homicide RATES rise in th enot so distant future! Don't come blaming the police because YOU SHUT US DOWN DUMBASSES!!!!!
So as I sit looking out at the potential victims all over just doing "contact cards" and drinking coffee, I find it tough to DO ANYTHING!
Especially now as the "crack heads" and drug arrestees get released nationally, in the near future and there is not enough "real police" to take those shitheads away for the "selling of dope". Believe it or not they control most gang related shootings and problems in these Chiccago neighborhoods but WHO CARES?
Thanks to the BOSSES of the CPD that CAVED IN to the MEDIA, THE MAYOR, THE REVERENDS. FOR NOT HAVING ANY BALLS to continue to keep the ELEMENT at bay and away from our families since WE are the problem NOW according to ALL REPORTS!
Anyways lets all STAY TUNED for 2008 .........shall we!
All you have to do is pay the SS tax when you do your 07 taxes.... it isn't much
to the retard from TRU,if thats where your from,either your that fucking stupid or your friend works in TRU and they tell you the perks and you are jealous so you bust out the whole unit,if you went to TRU that means you can't handle patrol you dog asshole,and now I hope an inspector gets ahold of this info,we will never know but I hope you get burned up,you are the type of po piece of shit who would lock up a copper on a DUI,you are a disgrace to your badge,and I'm in patrol and work 3rd in 008,easy to find,the guy who makes an arrest every day,come say hi after your 2hr lunch you pussy.
Message to "when do we get paid"....obviously, you haven't been on the Job too long. We have ALWAYS been paid on the 31st, usually by noon. Write it down in your FOP book son, so you don't embarrass yourself next year.
You're welcome.
TRU SUPERSTAR said...
This TRU is GREAT!!!!! I spent the whole night at my house when my partner dropped me off. Same thing for tomorrow! Talk about the cuts!!!!! You guys wish you could have clout and come he. We even have old SOS cars here with GPS but our bosses say we don't have to use them!!!! Fuck you inspectors we get last laugh. Oh yeah school starts soon, don't have to come in till 2100 hrs and you wonder why we make city money, they leave us alone. HAHAH you suckers in patrol!!!!!
12/24/2007 12:50:00 PM
Nice job snitch! I am a girl who loves to be a girly girl maybe you need to borrow some make up and a pretty dress loser!
TRU SUPERSTAR said...
More like tru a-hole. Your not really in the unit. Your more like a tru whiny boot licking bitch. You are really trying to get others upset over something that is not happening. I'm not in TRU but I'm not a jealous blog trolling hate monger either. Now go get some hair gel, tight fitting black gloves, and a pacifier for your supervisor sucking pouty lips.
signed:
True cop that doesnt want to read your crybaby bullshit!
Merry Kiss My Ass
12/25/2007 01:59:00 AM
Sorry, a night of drinking makes one forgetful. Thanks!
Anonymous said...
where is my retro check? no contract, no workee.
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As usual expect your retro after arbitrator rules, most likely retro by summer of 2009, anything sooner is gravy. You must not have been here long to ask stupid stuff like that.
Run for FOP prez and change it all, action, not pitiful complaints please.
Stay safe.
HaHaHaHaHa. Hundreds of Chicago Policemen who get to their jobs on time, make arrests, and rack up copius court time never have to worry about not getting overtime checks on time! Ever see anyone who works these hired gun part-time security gigs who wasn't a d...? Oh, and that included the heavy turkeys who wore the yellow jackets for nine bucks an hour and called 10-1's at the Chicago Stadium. Great work ethic! And profitable, too!
CPS hired guns are half-wits who do nothing during their eight hours for the CPD. They should send their CPS checks to the Chaplins Ministry if they had an morals at all.
If I ran the department you would not be allowed to work these asshole ten dollar an hour side gigs unless your employer provided you with insurance, thus getting the city off the hook when you get tuned up by a shoplifter at the dollar store. Rochford correctly would not extend line-of duty beneits to Koumandouris until the Greeks got up in arms and he buckled.
Remember when you work these side gigs your not a policemen anymore-just the lowly security gaurd you make fun of while you ride around for eight hours doing nothing.
Why would you work at a place where the probability of fighting students on camera is very high. My advice is cut back on your life style or this part time job will you fired from your full time job!
More like tru a-hole. Your not really in the unit. Your more like a tru whiny boot licking bitch. You are really trying to get others upset over something that is not happening. I'm not in TRU but I'm not a jealous blog trolling hate monger either. Now go get some hair gel, tight fitting black gloves, and a pacifier for your supervisor sucking pouty lips.
what about "come get em" days or whatever the fuck they are called. GOOD! Im glad someone is ratting out TRU I cant get the plays NO ONE should get the plays!
Telling on TRU! But is it tru or bullshit? Must be hair gel police again snitching because they are stuck working all night! Thanks for calling out another perk and I hope you get jammed up talking shit about other coppers idiot!
The SS decrease for all those who put in quarters is due to the bill that was passed and was spearheaded by that thieving dickhead Rostenkowski. How many times did his daughter get pinched for drugs by the CPD?
The National FOP Lodge along with other unions are lobbying to get this bill reversed. The dummies in Washington want to give away all the monies to the illegals, and take it away from the Americans.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year...stay safe.
To all you good cops,and even the dogs,this so called TRU PRICK,AIN'T THE POLICE..No way the real police could be this fuckin stupid..MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
Reduction of Social Security benefits is a fact. It was Rosty back in the 80's who caused it. When you reach Social Security age, if you are receiving a public employee pension, your benefits will be reduced by 60 percent. That means you get 40 percent of your SS pension. There are bills pending to fix this, HR-82 and S-206. There are numerous co-sponsors of these bills. The problem is that they have been introduced in the last 2 or 3 Congresses, and have not come out of committee. Write your Congressman and Senators and ask them to support these bills. 60 percent is a heavy hit.
Incidentally, CPD, has never been under Social Security. Hires after 1986, I believe, pay into Medicare. Hires previous to 1986 are not required to pay into Medicare, but can do so volundarily. I am pretty sure that 40 quarters of SS qualifies you for Medicare whether you paid in or not.
Sorry, but I am not feeling too sorry about the CPS ODPO's getting their pay fucked up. It sucks, but there have been more comments on this topic than on the fact that our contract does not exist, medical insurance is a mess, the cars suck, computers are shit and manpower is so short. How about saving some of that righteous indignation for something that affects us all, not a small portion of ODPO's who choose to work for the CPS. That is the same CPS, by the way that won't cooperate for shit when we are investigating crimes involving student offenders, and the same public schools that we pay for in taxes and cannot use. Quit working for those assholes, let those schools go up for grabs. Let the parents get involved like parents at private schools. Oh, wait...nevermind.
That is the same CPS, by the way that won't cooperate for shit when we are investigating crimes involving student offenders, and the same public schools that we pay for in taxes and cannot use.
Typical yuppie cover ups. mask the problem ... dont fix it.
Why does the head of police payroll frankie W have a brand new M plated fully police equipped new crown vic> He is not the police but has a brand new take home car why? what emergency does he need a new squad for? Maybe Jody will remove this waste of a car!
Did CPS contract this out to the State of Illinois Department of Central Management Services and John Filan's buddies? If you don't know who they are, plenty of info about them over on ISPeeved ...
"THAT SIMPLE THINKING WILL GET YOU KILLED IN THE STREETS.
12/24/2007 08:06:00 AM"
Ok Urban Warrior, strap up throw some extra mags in your vest pocket a carton of Marlboros in your duffle& get ready to roll!!
What a friggn tool,hope you enjoyed Christmas@your childhood home of Glencoe where you regaled them w/ tuffguy stories
Why would police officers contribute to Social Security? Does the school system not participate in a Government retirement scheme? Employees hired after 1986 should only pay MEDICARE taxes.
Furthermore, stop complaining about social security being discounted! If you work 20 years in the private sector and 20 years in the government pension plan where you do not contribute to social security, then why should you receive the same amount as some guy that put 40 years into social security? You should not. Regan made the system fair.
SUPPORT NATIONAL CCW for the ordinary people so they can protect themselves before you guys get off your ass and complain about how you can't rob the rest of us!
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