TRU Arrests Cicero Commander
A LOT of activity in yesterday's posts about this little incident. TRU does what they do and manage to pop a Cicero Police Commander with weed. Various comments hint that this isn't the first time the Commander has been suspected of being a little too close to the gangs and pot heads of Englewood. And the interesting comments about his "Mr. Clean" tattoo opens a whole raft of questions.
Regardless, TRU should be given the benefit of the doubt in this case. They are a numbers driven unit (and what unit isn't nowadays) and unless they're completely dense, there's no way they're running around locking up people by dropping dope on anyone. If they say they found it, we're taking them at their word.
What if it was a set up? Or some weird "integrity check" that IAD supposedly runs every so often? If these coppers called a supervisor, you can be sure the supervisor is going to tell them to go through the whole process. There isn't a supervisor around who doesn't know what the score is and what's going to happen with the first sergeant or lieutenant who manages to step on their dick. Not for a dime bag of weed. Not in a gas station full of video cameras and lots of witnesses.
Not today.
Regardless, TRU should be given the benefit of the doubt in this case. They are a numbers driven unit (and what unit isn't nowadays) and unless they're completely dense, there's no way they're running around locking up people by dropping dope on anyone. If they say they found it, we're taking them at their word.
What if it was a set up? Or some weird "integrity check" that IAD supposedly runs every so often? If these coppers called a supervisor, you can be sure the supervisor is going to tell them to go through the whole process. There isn't a supervisor around who doesn't know what the score is and what's going to happen with the first sergeant or lieutenant who manages to step on their dick. Not for a dime bag of weed. Not in a gas station full of video cameras and lots of witnesses.
Not today.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
102 Comments:
Did this guy have any credentials, a weapon, say that he was the police before they locked him up?
the tru guys are standing by their reports. good job. its also obvious, there is more to this story than a simple traffic stop. ole boy must have been a real asshole for starters and then turning this whole story around saying the police put it on him. yeah right. fucking stroke. don't hear the news bringing up his shady past, why not?
Here are a few facts about the arrest of the Cicero Commander.
The officers stopped the guy for traffic violation. He rolls down his rear window while making his stop. The offender jumps out of his vehicle and approaches the police.
The police order him back to his vehicle but he continues toward them and reaches toward his back pocket (maybe to get his wallet or not). He has yet to identify himself as a police officer. He is acting like an asshole and the officers place him against the car and conduct a pat down and they detect a strong odor of cannabis emitting from the vehicle.
The officers search the vehicle and recover a misdemeanor amount of cannabis. He continues to act like an asshole and still has not identified himself as a police officer. He is then placed in custody. An Rd# was obtained for 1811 and he now identifies himself.
Some officers think the arresting officers should have let him go, maybe if he acted like the police on and off duty he wouldn't be having his problems.
By the way, this guy has a law suit against the department for harassement from a prior encounter with CPD.
He didn't have a problem filing a CR against CPD officers who are now going through the aggravation of corp council over his lawsuit.
This ass wants punitive damages from the officers who he alleges harrassed him. Isn't this how he got to be a boss in the firt place by suing Cicero and having Time magazine write an article about him being the victim of racism with in his department.
Alot of Cicero officers are not upset and think this funny because this guy is an ass.
Most of the po's in TRU are worthless,more concerned with 2hr lunches and paper jumping on a 1 baggers and of course HAIR,but they do have a few good ones (JB,CT,JM,BL)anyway,the arrest of that cicero thug was a good job,and by the way,that cicero thug is suing a couple CPD po's,the same po's that gave him a break last year,so fuck dat mr.clean POS scumbag,TRU dat
Cicero Police Commander Tokelee Scott says----
It's all y'all white peoples fault.
Thanks SCC, it is amazing that there are still coppers questioning this, including the w/c on afternoons and mids in 007, who allegedly(because we didn't hear it first hand) told their watches that if they have a similar encounter they should show professional courtesy. If this is true it is an absolute travesty, tell coppers to let him and his weed go! in this day and age, with what has been going on! these guys did the right thing.
It makes me sick people said that the officers should have used discression.
It's not like he committed a traffic offense, he was caught with drugs.
And good call by locking him up. Godforbid it was the feds doing a check, the PO's would lose their jobs at the very least. Not to mention if they let him go, he sues them for illegally stopping him. This shitbag already has lawsuits against Chiccago PO's.
Rumor is he has allegedly pisssed hot twice already.
Every time a cop makes negative headlines, it makes us all look bad. Fuck this guy!
The weed was observed and recovered, the cuffs were on, and the RD# was generated BEFORE he identified himself as a police officer. Not saying that would, or should, have changed anything but that's how it happened. Had he stayed in the car and showed his credentials instead of jumping out he may have very well been given PC and been on his way to who-knows-where in Englewood.
If a copper wants to smoke weed he first has to obtain it. There are a few ways to obtain it. Buy it, steal it, grow it or take it as a gift.
Which way do you think this Commander got his? Any of these methods would put him contact with dope dealers who then own him. Now that he has been comprimised what good is he? No copper is safe as he will provide information knowinly or unknowingly that will put honest coppers at risk.
The TRU coppers provided the ultimate professional courtesy to Cicero and all the rest of us by shining some light on this POS hopefully before someone got hurt.
Please except this honorable mention for a job well done.
For all the defenders of the Cicero commander, Robbins is hiring, you will love it out there.
I was told that this POS was given many, I mean many, plays in 007 before and did not listen. He never ID'ed himself until the RD was pulled, so I really don't feel sorry for him at all. I support what they did and it has nothing to do with hair gel either.
As usual, this guy has a history of playing the race card when he has gotten into trouble before and already has a lawsuit against CPD officers. He also has pissed hot and nothing was done by the Cicero PD, so shame on them.
Think people, I know that when I hear a fellow officer failed a drug test I am extremely disappointed and embarrassed for them. I also think when they fail a drug test they should be punished. Yet, some people think that if a off duty officer is caught in the act of using drugs while driving around ghetto style its ok. Fuck him and fuck his ghetto defenders! He's a embarrasment to law enforcement and if he would have had a year on the job we would be questioning why he was hired.
Ironically, the watch commander in 007 District that night was the "Teflon Juan" himself Lt. Rick Guerrero.
Anyone who would defend this Cirero officer must feel this is the status quo and acceptable for thug officers. Does anyone really feel its acceptable for a off duty officer to be driving around smoking weed? Get your head checked.
GOOD JOB TRU !
Good job coopers! But after reading the arrest report, you guys may have a problem with illegal search and seizure. Arrest report doesn't show proper probable cause to search the vehicle. After talking to a State's Attorney that case will be tossed before the officers make it to court. Be ware of the lawsuit to follow. In this day in age remain active, but maintain a COVER MY ASS attitude. This may not be worth the trouble to come. Next time call the dogs and do it thoroughly.
Did this guy have any credentials, a weapon, say that he was the police before they locked him up?
Never identified himself untill after the ball was rolling, credentials recovered by a/o's, weapon was in the vehicle between the front seats. Commander star and weapon inventoried.
There's a big difference between giving a PO a pass on a traffic stop versus a criminal offense.
After "Austin 7" there was a lot of shady stuff going on involving abandon dope and guns or guys who wanted to turn in guns to the police for credit on the street. IAD setups.
In these days you never know. If you catch a PO really wrong do your job. Don't try and jam the guy or gal any further, just do your job.
A guy I worked with on Gangs always used to say "Don't put your family in jeopardy by trying to save someone else's." That makes sense!
Sounds like Cicero wanted him gone and paid off CPD people to "handle" the problem.This way Cicero doesnt get sued for racial discrimination.
Anonymous said...
Most of the po's in TRU are worthless,more concerned with 2hr lunches and paper jumping on a 1 baggers and of course HAIR,but they do have a few good ones (JB,CT,JM,BL)anyway,the arrest of that cicero thug was a good job,and by the way,that cicero thug is suing a couple CPD po's,the same po's that gave him a break last year,so fuck dat mr.clean POS scumbag,TRU dat
1/30/2008 12:48:00 AM
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In my experience as a cop I think that he will now use that lawsuit, to claim another civil lawsuit of "Harrassment by Cpd or payback for the lawsuit" It will work and he will get paid. This City and lawyers in general are the devil
It is true. The 3rd watch W/C in 007 made a big deal about giving professional courtesy. Also, the Lt. on 3rd watch told the roll call that he has a hard time believing TRU.
Anyone know what his picture of Mr. Clean tat means?
THIS WORKING NO CLOUT P.O. FROM EDISON PARK SAYS , GOD BLESS TRU THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB I WOULD HAD DONE THE SAME THING THAT I DO ALL THE TIME, THAT IS LOOKING SH-T HEADS AND SEIZING THEIR CARS. ALSO I HAVE A COUSIN WHO IS A COP IN BERWYN WHO HAS HAD RUN INS WITH THIS JAGOFF FROM CICERO, ITS SEEMS THAT ANYTIME BERWYN P.D. LOCKS UP A SH-T HEAD AND ITS NEAR LOMBARD AVE / CICERO/ BERWYN BORDER COMM ANDER SCOT HAS TRYED TO INTERVENE . LUCKY FOR BERWYN THEY HAVE WILLIAM KUSHNER WHO NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN,
TRU GREAT JOBTRU JOHN MCCLAIN FOR PRESIDENT AND SEISER FOR MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY.
We constantly get criticize in the media for allegedly not doing the right thing and then we tear apart our own for doing the right thing.
You have bosses telling people that discretion should have been used in this incident because he is a fellow officer.
You also have bosses telling people that discretion should have been used and blame it squarely on TRU because they make “pimpy” arrest.
So I guess in 007, a weed bag or blunt arrest are frowned upon because you run the risk of being compared to those dreaded TRU guys.
So I guess in 007, your better off turning the other way when you come across a bad guy in coppers clothing because you run the risk of being compared to those dreaded TRU guys.
So when all is said and done, the only person benefitting from this whole thing is the bad guys who get let go in 007 when caught with a bag of weed or a blunt.
Of course, unless TRU is deployed there. Then the bad guys surely goes to jail and his car might even get impounded.
I don't know what side your on, but I'm surely on the side of seeing the bad guys go to jail every single time.
Keep up the good work Officers and stay safe.
welcome to the new CPD!
turning this whole story around saying the police put it on him. yeah right. fucking stroke.
Isn't **HE** the police??
the old SOS would have twisted him for a gun!
Anonymous said...
Thanks SCC, it is amazing that there are still coppers questioning this, including the w/c on afternoons and mids in 007, who allegedly(because we didn't hear it first hand) told their watches that if they have a similar encounter they should show professional courtesy. If this is true it is an absolute travesty, tell coppers to let him and his weed go! in this day and age, with what has been going on! these guys did the right thing.
1/30/2008 02:42:00 AM
Fuck that asshole merit clout W/C! Another jagoff promoted! To TRU great job you did the right thing let him go? Maybe he was working the feds for a break on something else, or else with a news crew recording you did the right thing TRU officers from a 25 year vet Blue Shirt!
Remember when Cicero PD was taken over by the Ill State Police? Was a shit department then and if this piece of shit is a boss there and really has pissed hot then it is obviously still a shit department. To all those critics out there who were not at the scene: How do you give professional courtesy to a piece of shit who doesn't even tell you he's on the job? Fuck this mutt and fuck Cicero PD if they got a problem with this! And to the Capt in 007 yeah right boss you sit there with your merit promotion in your white shirt and like all Capts and exempts on this job you would be the first one to turn your back on these PO's if they got caught letting somebody like this go. To all you new guys and dumb fucks on this job who really think that anybody with the rank of Capt or above is your friend or gives a shit about you I just hope you come to your senses before they fuck you over someday.
good job , i would have done it also
Anonymous said...
Thanks SCC, it is amazing that there are still coppers questioning this, including the w/c on afternoons and mids in 007, who allegedly(because we didn't hear it first hand) told their watches that if they have a similar encounter they should show professional courtesy. If this is true it is an absolute travesty, tell coppers to let him and his weed go! in this day and age, with what has been going on! these guys did the right thing.
1/30/2008 02:42:00 AM
Do you think these Watch Commanders would cut him from the station I bet not. But they will tell you to cut them on the street but when the beef comes they will stick it up your ass. Any cop has no business using dope if he.she pisses hot or gets caught burn them. The pols want to fire people, heres the class of people to fire.
Retired Secretary
If the w/c's in 007 addressed roll call and told the troops to extend professional courtesy to exempt members of other departments by tossing their weed, they should be immediately demoted. Maybe the new supt should find out exactly what was said and act accordingly on that info. More than likely I think it's bullshit, no w/c could be that stupid...LOL
yo give mr. clean a break will ya
I am the first one to usually knock TRU, and why not they are an easy target, howver onthis one they did a fine job.
if it was a D.U.I. i would bet it was the commander of the airports.
tru has to be the worst of the worst that the chicago police department has to offer. a bunch of two year wonders that dont do anything but dui's, dpw's, one gram of weed arrests, and the ultimate false trp's. they are good at one thing though. in fact they are the best in the city at doing this. they go into a district and march into the free spots like the old jump out boys and ruin the freebee's for the district people.case in point...the mcdonalds at 40th ashland used to be free until they came along. 20 would go in deep and eat half of what they had to offer with a total bill of like $300.00 dollars. great job you fucks! case in point # 2 paco's tacos on archer...tru and the 010 district love to hit that spot and eat like 50 tacos and then walk out without even leaving a tip..not even saying thank you.can anyone explain why it takes 9 members of tru to complete a simple dpw arrest? they walk in and stand around and take up space. this is factual..went to use the bath room and 4 of them were in there looking in the mirror and fixing their hair. what a joke of a unit .
including the w/c on afternoons and mids in 007, who allegedly(because we didn't hear it first hand) told their watches that if they have a similar encounter they should show professional courtesy. If this is true it is an absolute travesty, tell coppers to let him and his weed go!
**Screw that WC. Tell him/her to put it on paper and sign their name to it.
Sickening!
Good Decision Tru Unit!
BOTTOM LINE, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP BEFORE/AFTER/DURING THE STOP IF HE HAD DRUGS ON HIM..GOOD JOB TRU!!
I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS HIRED IN CICERO AND LIKE THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS HE'D GO TO PEOPLES HOMES ON DISTURBANCES/PLACES OF BUSINESS AND SUCH AND THE TOWNS PEOPLE WOULDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE HIM STATING" WE DONTS HAVE ANY COLORED POLICE IN OUR TOWN" EVERY CALL HE NEEDED A HILLBILLY INTERPETURE TO STATE "YEP WE GOTTS ONE"
Please except this honorable mention for a job well done.
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Please accept this demerit for not knowing the difference between except and accept.
Here is the rule, there is stuff I think I know and stuff I know. The stuff I think I know I don't have to do anything about. The stuff I know, I have to act on. When they knew this POS had stuff, they had to act. Professional courtesy extends to traffic; it does not extend to a crime.
The first thing I thought of when I heard this was that the Cicero P.D. must be happy as pigs in shit (seriously) ...
Hey Cicero ... if you run across a CPD boss driving around smoking a joint .... LOCK HIS ASS UP !!!!!
This asshole was struck by the double -whammy ... criminality AND stupidity ...
these tru clowns walk around like they are the "shit". the po's couldnt find a bag of weed in there own pockets. im so proud that this elite group write anov's and drinkers. please disband this group of wannabe's and send them packing back to the district's.
Good Job TRU, you did they right thing and now no one can hang you out to dry!!!! You never know who is playing one on you!!!!
Good job coopers! But after reading the arrest report, you guys may have a problem with illegal search and seizure. Arrest report doesn't show proper probable cause to search the vehicle. After talking to a State's Attorney that case will be tossed before the officers make it to court. Be ware of the lawsuit to follow. In this day in age remain active, but maintain a COVER MY ASS attitude. This may not be worth the trouble to come. Next time call the dogs and do it thoroughly.
1/30/2008 08:57:00 AM
Do the words "plain view" or "odor of cannabis exist in the report."
If they do then they had probable cause.
ps you cant spell
1/30/2008 12:57:00 PM
You are a whining 9th district hack.
Go back to Tulsa you fucking stroke. I'm sure your an extravagant tipper, you must be because you refuse to pay for your shit food. Your just pissed because you wasted your juice to get to 009, and then you realized it sucks!!! HA HA HA
To "Most of the po's in TRU are worthless..." I don't see you at the DOC meetings getting awards asshat!!!
Plain view, distinctive, pungent aroma and "furtive gesture" (possible weapon in car) along wtih failure to obey command to remain in vehicle equals p.c. RIP THE FUCKIN CAR APART LIKE IT WAS AN OUT OF STATE REVEREND'S...nice job, for a change...Herman got 25yrs. for being a goof; this guy at least gets a trial or his chance to fold up....equal justice for all....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good job coopers! But after reading the arrest report, you guys may have a problem with illegal search and seizure. Arrest report doesn't show proper probable cause to search the vehicle. After talking to a State's Attorney that case will be tossed before the officers make it to court. Be ware of the lawsuit to follow. In this day in age remain active, but maintain a COVER MY ASS attitude. This may not be worth the trouble to come. Next time call the dogs and do it thoroughly.
1/30/2008 08:57:00 AM
I'm pretty sure I thought I read that there was a partially burnt brown paper cigar in the ashtray in plain view.
they go into a district and march into the free spots like the old jump out boys and ruin the freebee's for the district people.case in point.
And as a normal citizen who pays for his food, I want to thank them for it. If they abuse it, and it lets the store owner see it for the small-time racket it is, then I'm grateful. Another piece of good work by TRU.
What kind of cop goes around looking to get paid off by restaurants anyway? Weirdo.
Fuck him. GOD Bless CPD.
smokey dopey go to pokey....end of discussion!
You know, it's really getting tiresome reading coppers criticizing coppers for doing their job. Go join the media if you feel that way. TRU did what they had to do, this guy is no policeman. And I know this will get the responses coming but to you guys that say you wouldn't bring that small amount in; I've been working with guys like you for twenty two years. You wouldn't bring in a pound of weed if you found it, it'd be to much like police work. Your the old timers who whine on the radio every time they page you for an assignment, like their interrupting your day or something. Probably the last time you saw a court room was during your last divorce. So shut the F*&% up and retire already....To you TRU guys, don't take this shit to heart. Anybody with an ounce of sense know you felt bad about it even if the guy was a jag. That's the tough part of being the police, sometimes you just have to do what you have to do...Good Job and stay safe...
All of these remarks should come to an end already. All that you are doing is causing a seperation between both departments (exactly what the criminals want us to do). We are above that because we are COPS. It is unfortunate that there are bad apples in the bunch. But remember it is in every department, team, unit, city, town, state, and family.
Also remember there are two sides to the story and then there is the truth.
GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS..
tru has to be the worst of the worst that the chicago police department has to offer. a bunch of two year wonders that dont do anything but dui's, dpw's, one gram of weed arrests, and the ultimate false trp's. they are good at one thing though. in fact they are the best in the city at doing this. they go into a district and march into the free spots like the old jump out boys and ruin the freebee's for the district people.case in point...the mcdonalds at 40th ashland used to be free until they came along. 20 would go in deep and eat half of what they had to offer with a total bill of like $300.00 dollars. great job you fucks! case in point # 2 paco's tacos on archer...tru and the 010 district love to hit that spot and eat like 50 tacos and then walk out without even leaving a tip..not even saying thank you.can anyone explain why it takes 9 members of tru to complete a simple dpw arrest? they walk in and stand around and take up space. this is factual..went to use the bath room and 4 of them were in there looking in the mirror and fixing their hair. what a joke of a unit .
Boo hoo, now go wipe your eyes, pay for your shitty meals and go back to Tulsa Power for the rest of the tour.. former 009, glad to say former....
"Isn't **HE** the police??"
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No, **HE** is a criminal with a badge. Lets hope he loses it. Anyone who says different is a moron. Good job officers
Good job coopers! But after reading the arrest report, you guys may have a problem with illegal search and seizure. Arrest report doesn't show proper probable cause to search the vehicle. After talking to a State's Attorney that case will be tossed before the officers make it to court. Be ware of the lawsuit to follow. In this day in age remain active, but maintain a COVER MY ASS attitude. This may not be worth the trouble to come. Next time call the dogs and do it thoroughly
"ODOR OF BURNT CANNABIS AND SUSPECT CANNABIS IN PLAIN VIEW ON THE CENTER CONSOLE..." Dumbass. Finish the academy before you post on this blog!!
the tru unit are a bunch of asshats! i have never seen anyone from this unit with a decent arrest. you talk about geting awards at the doc?oh yeah i forget.....at the last award ceremony i did hear that there was an award given for the most free food that was consumed by a unit..thats right tru got it and of course 9 members walked up and applied more gel to their hair prior to receiving the award.great job you useless fucks
its really funny how i hear many people saying that this was a great arrest by the tru unit.last time i checked poss of cannabis under 2.5 grams is a petty offense and a class c misdemeanor.how many times do you stop shit bird on the street with more and you let him go? many people have commented that if it was traffic then he could have been given professional courtesy.well, if i understand correctly tru claims that there was a strong odor and burning cigar(suspect cannabis) in the ashtray. why no dui???that would be at least a class a misdemeanor and a some what better arrest then this petty bs you brought in.what would you have done if the po was cpd? whould the outcome have been the same? its funny but years ago if you arrested another po( for example dui) you were labeled and known all throughout the city as such. you would be an outcast and no one would want to work with you.
hi, im new to the job and i just got off my year. i like writting anov's and drinkers. tru sounds like a great place to work. how do i apply? thanks po dork
i want to set the record straight right now. i work in tru and proud to be there. we do more than anov's and one gram arrests. we take two hour lunches, shop at ford city, and drink free coffee at dunkin doughnuts. when is the last time you got a good pinch like me? last night i had some drug paraphernalia and a sound impound!pretty good stuff huh..tru rocks
tru isnt that bad. they are no worse than the 009th district tact team or b-team. actually tru has much better arrests
We don't take offense to this arrest at all! Tru unit did their job and thats that! Never would have thought it but his demeanor but from what I hear, he doesn't deserve to be a cop! Very embarrasing to not only us but to all law enforcement officers! Sorry to say, but this is '08 and you have to cover your @ss! Two words:Fuck 'em! Shady B.P.S.
Good job coopers! But after reading the arrest report, you guys may have a problem with illegal search and seizure. Arrest report doesn't show proper probable cause to search the vehicle. After talking to a State's Attorney that case will be tossed before the officers make it to court. Be ware of the lawsuit to follow. In this day in age remain active, but maintain a COVER MY ASS attitude. This may not be worth the trouble to come. Next time call the dogs and do it thoroughly.
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The odor of cannabis provides probable cause ... not only to seach the vehicle (which happened in this case) but to search (not just pat down either) the occupants ... ALL occupants ... per Illinois Appellate Court ... (I looked it up just out of curiosity) Here it is: (exact wording)
"...officers' detection of the odor of burning cannabis emanating from the lawfully stopped maroon car provided the officers with probable cause to search defendant, who was a passenger in the car. To hold otherwise would lead to the illogical conclusion that when a trained police officer detects the odor of a burning controlled substance emanating from a lawfully stopped vehicle he can search only the driver and not the other occupants of the car even though the smell was emanating from the enclosed space of the vehicle in which all occupants were present."
People v. Boyd, 298 Ill. App. 3d 1118, 1127 (Ill. App. Ct. 1998)
Good job coopers! But after reading the arrest report, you guys may have a problem with illegal search and seizure. Arrest report doesn't show proper probable cause to search the vehicle. After talking to a State's Attorney that case will be tossed before the officers make it to court. Be ware of the lawsuit to follow. In this day in age remain active, but maintain a COVER MY ASS attitude. This may not be worth the trouble to come. Next time call the dogs and do it thoroughly
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Dumbass, how about you maintain a "learn the fucking law" attitude ... you're all wrong ... the odor of cannabis IS probable cause. The "trouble to come" is that you are a cop ..... DUMB MOTHERFUCKER
Good job coopers! But after reading the arrest report, you guys may have a problem with illegal search and seizure. Arrest report doesn't show proper probable cause to search the vehicle. After talking to a State's Attorney that case will be tossed before the officers make it to court. Be ware of the lawsuit to follow. In this day in age remain active, but maintain a COVER MY ASS attitude. This may not be worth the trouble to come. Next time call the dogs and do it thoroughly
"ODOR OF BURNT CANNABIS AND SUSPECT CANNABIS IN PLAIN VIEW ON THE CENTER CONSOLE..." Dumbass. Finish the academy before you post on this blog!!
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Courts have repeatedly and consistently (as far as I know) stated that odor of cannabis amounts to probable cause to search vehicle AND occupants .....
THis was written in another BLOG
list under There's J-Fed
Regarding the so call conflict between Cicero police and Chicago police due to the Commander's arrest.
Remember this. We can go through our lifetime without ever having to go into or through Cicero Illinois. I doubt Cicero cops can say the same thing about not going into or through Chicago.
When I was in Gang Crimes West years ago, we stop calling Cicero Police ahead of time when we were going to do a search warrant in their town due to a crime that was committed in Chicago, because every time we did, the place was cleaned out before we got there. We learned to call the Cicero police after we busted down the door, just as a courtesy.
That fucked up, gambling, prostitution, drug and mafia ran town has been crooked from the Al Capone days and nothing has change.
If I need to go to a race track, I'll go to Balmoral instead, better people and less town employed whores.
1/29/2008 12:00:00 AM
Listen we are not like that in cicero anymore that was what 20 years ago or longer and to show how much you know we no longer have a race track,gambling and prostitution is no longer a huge issue because bars that stay opened till 6am are closed which closed tons of bars down with a new closing hour. AS for us going through chicago sure we do even the traffic guys a couple years ago gave one of our guys a ticket. If you think chicago guys never go through our town your wrong I have stopped plenty of them and always given them p.c.
The town has changed if you could not tell from some of the cicero officers who just recently went to federal prison.
We have no beef or any type of conflict with chicago pd, a large majority of us know that the officer did his job and we also know how that commander is. We all have a job to do and we all need to stay safe.
Remember that copper in Michigan who ate "weed brownies" got sick and dialed 911?
He was fired.
Do you think it's ok to consume/possess/transport, narcotics (not duty related)
1)The job does not give driving exams
2)The job does not stop at your house to see if you ever beat your wife
However...
3)The job does fire your ass for graft (stealing/kickbacks)
4)The job has random testing for the presence of narcotics. (+ = fired).
You can get play from any copper (burbs or city) weather your black/white/hispanic for DUI/DOM Batt./Traff./Whores, ect.
If YOU were MY partner, getting involved in any of the above probably will not get me killed or indicted. If you are "owned" by a gang or by an addiction, you probably WILL get someone killed or indicted.
I can handle a guy who gets a blow job from a whore, I can't handle a fucking crack-head for my backup!!!
Aside from this monday morning quarterbacking, what would YOU really do?
tru has to be the worst of the worst that the chicago police department has to offer. a bunch of two year wonders that dont do anything but dui's, dpw's, one gram of weed arrests, and the ultimate false trp's. they are good at one thing though. in fact they are the best in the city at doing this. they go into a district and march into the free spots like the old jump out boys and ruin the freebee's for the district people.case in point...the mcdonalds at 40th ashland used to be free until they came along. 20 would go in deep and eat half of what they had to offer with a total bill of like $300.00 dollars. great job you fucks! case in point # 2 paco's tacos on archer...tru and the 010 district love to hit that spot and eat like 50 tacos and then walk out without even leaving a tip..not even saying thank you.can anyone explain why it takes 9 members of tru to complete a simple dpw arrest? they walk in and stand around and take up space. this is factual..went to use the bath room and 4 of them were in there looking in the mirror and fixing their hair. what a joke of a unit .
Whatever, you two-year 009 wonder...I'm in TRU and I'm ashamed that you work in 009, given the fact that I started there..I'm not going to generalize everyone there like you sir are doing, but you are a complete idiot for going on a PUBLIC blog and stating that police get "freebies" at restaurants. And I've never seen any officer go into a restaurant and eat, "like 50tacos." Your post had to be one of the most idiotic things ever posted on here.
Did you get turned down by TRU? or SWAT, or SOS? Look in the mirror pal, you are the one with the chip on your shoulder. 009 has always been a great working police district, and still is, and it's a shame people like you have to bring discredit upon them. You are an embarrassment to your district, and to the CPD to post such a rambling piece of garbage, especially when this post has been a positive one for once. Go back into the private sector....
Former 009/Current TRU
You ended a man's career for a burnt cannabis cigarette. What pleasure do any of you get in getiing a police officer who has 20 plus years (pension) fired? I don't get high and never have. I hope one of you high horse assholes make a mistake with something else in your life when you have a pension in hand and some young dumb super cop does the same thing. Then you can cry all the way to your new security guard job and $10.00 an hour. Where is the wisdom of not letting one street stop or one bad decision take away years or decades of service. If they are that big of a problem their department will get them. If they are the drug dealing police we all need to get them. I know plenty of coppers who got high before they got hired. If one of them after years and especially decades of service made a mistake in a weak moment of getting high agian. Just like a DUI you don't take away their career. You discipline them the first time and fire them the next time it. We are not perfect we are just people who decide to risk our lives for the betterment of society. As for all the rumors about previous interactions with this guy. Let the P.O.'s who had them speak up. If i had a problem with this guy i would have no problem giving my name and story about how much of an asshole this he was. How many of us after getting stopped would get thrown on a car and hand cuffed without yelling slow down i'm the police??? It sound like you don't even have the balls to say yes we did lock him even though he told us he was the police. Hinding behind the RD was pulled crap.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-880897175401400927
I don't see you at the DOC meetings getting awards asshat!!!
1/30/2008 08:58:00 PM
Slow down, two year wonders. Good job, but don't get too cocky or it will bite you in the ass..Like I mentioned before, these flashy DOC awards won't save your rear when the Subject happily sue you after his misdemeanor case is dismissed in court.
1/31/2008 03:22:00 PM
You ended a man's career for a burnt cannabis cigarette. What pleasure do any of you get in getiing a police officer who has 20 plus year (pension) fired?
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You know what? You are absolutely right. Its better to not jam this guy who (if you have your ear to the ground at all you would already know) is a known banger/thug w/ a badge and already has 2 BS race beefs against CPD get a pass, play the race card, beef and lose your job than to do your job while under 5 gas station cameras after he was a total jagoff. I for one would feel proud explaining to my wife and kids that the reason that we dont know where the cash for the next trip to Jewel, and mortgage payment is coming form because I lost my job, is because I cut another thug with a badge, I mean copper, a break. That will sure make them feel better than a roof over their heads and food in their belly.
Yeah thats solid thinking.
Oh and by the way TRU sucks, 009 sucks, SOS sucks (whoops they arent around any more, sorry), SWAT sucks. I cant get free food, I have to shine my shoes, I might have to swipe in, I might have to pass a fitness exam. But ya know what? Im sure not going to do anything about it but bitch and feel my fat ass grow.
Waaaaahhhhh! Cry me a river you useless pricks.
These guys did what they had to in todays political climate to not be the next scandal that ends up on th front page and gives us all a bad name by simply doing it all by the book. Go ahead and cut slack under the cameras idiot. You and Tony Abate and the SOS guys can talk about how you were the real police in between bagging groceries with the fellow retarded.
Hey city hall, 35th street! Are you reading? Get ready to ream us on the next contract because you dont have to pull us apart, were doing it ourselves for you.
Fucking morons.
How about all you asshole "real police" jagoffs who drive dui, are involved in other questionable incidents like, shootings, batteries and all other shit that we help you out with in the suburbs. Back in the day Police Officers stood together, but its obvious that all you young liberal fucks have no clue about brotherhood. You sick pricks even lock each other up. Thats pathetic. Its always the guys that talk more shit that need the most help. Karma is a mother Fucker.
looky here and what not now to wit he done did what?
I hope one of you high horse assholes make a mistake with something else in your life when you have a pension in hand and some young dumb super cop does the same thing.
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What an idiot! Now get your dictionary out and look up the word mistake, then look up the word Choice..
And for you other whiners talking about giving PO's breaks, you're just afraid the next time you slap the old lady or drive over the One Way sign you might not get a break. Well, if you stop putting the on-duty officer in the position where he could lose all his shit protecting your dumb ass maybe we all could relax a little. It's called personal responsibility but then in the democratic strong hold of Illinois, I guess that concept is foreign to you..
i just saw some tru guys writting anov's. these two year wonders are the best the city has to offer?what a joke of a unit. i would be ashamed to be a part of this group after that last bs pinch with the cicero cop.tru was in 009 and 15 guys walked into the burger king at archer and ashland to get there freebee's.it wont take long before they ruin that free spot. way to go asshats. i mentioned to the manager to start checking beat tags before giving out the free food. do like 021 does at ricobenes. tru also fucked up the free gum at wrigleys
Let's get the story right, at no time did this Watch Commander in 007 ever say to let P.O.'s with drugs go as a professional courtesy. Not once did the word professional courtesy leave his mouth. I happen to be in the same D.O.G as this Watch Commander and anybody who claims that he made that statement is and idiot, a liar and full of shit. I bet it's a P.P.O. who has a friend in TRU and wants to have a conversation piece so he can tell some stories. Next time anyone wants to post bullshit lies like that, post your name and be a man, so everybody else who was in that roll call could know who is full of shit on the watch. I worked for this Watch Commander for 6 years and he is a great boss, and would never steer any officers in a wrong direction. Why would someone post such a lie? I was in this roll call and this Watch Commander never said that anyone should have let the Cicero Commander off with professional courtesy. This Watch Commander in 007 always preaches covering your ass and would never say something so reckless. I just would love for the person who posted this bullshit to be a man and post his name so everyone on the watch would no who the idiot is.
why dont the inspectors start writting up these tru jackoff's for more than 3 cars at a freebee spot in 009?and to top it off, they sit there for two hours and talk about there great dpw arrest they had yesterday.what a bunch of hacks!
the bosses in tru suck!and so do the po's
Hey "disgruntled" you big tough macho guy what did you say your name was??? Oh you didn't, now go back to sucking off the watch commander.
I can handle a guy who gets a blow job from a whore, I can't handle a fucking crack-head for my backup!!!
Aside from this monday morning quarterbacking, what would YOU really do?
1/31/2008 12:01:00 PM
I love this job!
" Let's get the story right, at no time did this Watch Commander in 007 ever say to let P.O.'s with drugs go as a professional courtesy"
You are a LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!
Why dont you post your name if your willing to be a witness to this roll call and defend him!
Your either of of his 06 cars, one of his drinking buddies, or just too damn scared of him!
Its too late to try to cover what was said!
i just saw some tru guys writting anov's. these two year wonders are the best the city has to offer?what a joke of a unit. i would be ashamed to be a part of this group after that last bs pinch with the cicero cop.tru was in 009 and 15 guys walked into the burger king at archer and ashland to get there freebee's.it wont take long before they ruin that free spot. way to go asshats. i mentioned to the manager to start checking beat tags before giving out the free food. do like 021 does at ricobenes. tru also fucked up the free gum at wrigleys
2/01/2008 12:03:00 AM
Are you still bitching about TRU burning out burning out your "free spots." Well guess what? Your free spots suck this taint. I wouldn't eat there if you gave me a rusty trombone!!! Why don't you use that juice that got you into 009 and go to somewhere that isn't a fucking dump. Did you ever think you burned these spots out? I mean when Wrigley's, Paco Taco's, McDonald's, and Burger King sees you
stopping by for free food twice a week and taking enough to feed the herd at home they may think your a fucking leach and cut off your food supply.
PS Ricobene's sucks too
As being a Cicero Police Officer I can honeslty say, I have alot of friends that belong to C.P.D. and other suburban police departments. I am not taking any sides, but can understand what had to be done. We have a thing called "DISCRETION" and as police know when and where it can be applied. When it comes to criminal activity or something that could put your ass on the line, then what had to be done was done. Lets move on and restore the brotherhood.
HEY KEITH I GUESS YOUR MASS TRANSIT PHONE CALL DID'NT GET TO FAR. GUESS YOUR STUCK ACTING LIKE YOU WORK WHILE YOUR PARTNER DOES ALL THE HARD WORK. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND BID TO 20 WITH THE OTHER GUYS.
Can you imagine if he smelled like weed and they let him go. What if he then got in a traffic accident killing innocent people. Can you imagine all the witnesses, "The Pooleece had him, and let that man go!" Is YOUR job worth giving that pothead a break. Mine isn't! Or worse yet, can you imagine if they gave him a break and he filed some form of a CR#, stating that they harrassed him. What would their answer in the CR be? They certainly couldn't say that they stopped him, and continued questionning him because he smelled like weed! They would be hit with, "Why didn't you lock him up then?" If you are going to break the law, I don't care who you are, I don't want you backing me up!
You all know the names of the officers who made the arrest. If not, look up the arrest on the clear system, assuming you know how to use it. How about some of you "officers" who think he should have been given a play post your names. But none of you will. How about this, confront the officers face to face and hear their side of the story instead of instantly sticking up for the gangbanger pothead. But as stated before, none of you will.
i saw the tru unit yesterday.....15 of there bozo po's were in the subway at 43rd and ashland. you guessed it to get there discounted sandwhich. the owner said he's getting really pissed with this shit. these guys are going to ruin another gem in 009!hey asshats....go get your free food in 008 or 010 or 021. start fucking up some other districts spots.oh by the way you guys suck. thanks
I'm one of those Cicero P.O's that many of you are taking shots at. Sad to learn that you judge a whole department on one persons action. I grew up in the city and have family and friends that work for your dept and they don't share all these negative views on us. Remmember all departments have so called clot babies and problem children that create stupid problems, negativity and embarass their departments. If you really wanted to stand out as the best force in Illinois, where was the outcry with your SOS Team and the crimes they committed. You didn't hear the Cicero Policeor any other depts call all of you bad mouth you dept as a whole, the truth is we no beef or problems with CPD! we have to work with each other at some point and you just given those anti-police groups more ammo to go at us with, Look up that simple saying, "divide and conquer." We have no problem with punishing the wrong doers that hurt our reputation, which includes any dept that have ignorant P.O's that run wild and don't adhere to laws. Lets stick together and weed out those officers that place us in bad situations with the public and against each other. BE SAFE OUT THERE!!!!!!!!
TO THE GUYS IN 009: DO WHAT WE BEEN DOING IN 001 FOR YEARS. IF YOUR CLOSE WITH THESE RESTARAUNT AND STORE OWNERS, TELL THEM NOT TO GIVE ANYONE A PLAY UNLESS THEY HAVE A 009TH DISTRICT IDENTIFIER, IF NOT CHARGE THEM FULL PRICE. TRUST ME THEY'LL LEARN REAL QUICK.
Not in TRU says, I notice TRU has been assigned to the Ninth District on numerous occassions maybe if you handled your shit, they would not be so familiar with all your eating spots.
Anonymous said...
i saw the tru unit yesterday.....15 of there bozo po's were in the subway at 43rd and ashland. you guessed it to get there discounted sandwhich. the owner said he's getting really pissed with this shit. these guys are going to ruin another gem in 009!hey asshats....go get your free food in 008 or 010 or 021. start fucking up some other districts spots.oh by the way you guys suck. thanks
2/02/2008 07:57:00 AM
They did it to portillos on harlem and many other spots! Hey guys stop acting like the punk police nad try to eat at different spots you ruin things for the working coppers hey thatnks! Oh almost forgot they have a sale on hair gel at kmart!
saw the tru unit yesterday.....15 of there bozo po's were in the subway at 43rd and ashland. you guessed it to get there discounted sandwhich. the owner said he's getting really pissed with this shit. these guys are going to ruin another gem in 009!hey asshats....go get your free food in 008 or 010 or 021. start fucking up some other districts spots.oh by the way you guys suck. thanks
2/02/2008 07:57:00 AM
Hey jackass. THERE, THEIR, THEY'RE
Our office is in 009. We work in 009. As a matter of fact, we are closer to that Subway than you. I bet that when we are deployed in 009, our guys would respond to a call for service there much quicker than any of your people. Don't worry, Tulsa is safe because only lazy ass 009th district coppers are "burning up" that place. I've worked in both. I'll take the TRU guys in battle any day over 009's kids.
while working tonight i saw 15 bozo tru officers eating at the popeye's at archer and just off kedzie. i agree with 009 that theses assholes are going to ruin our spot in 008. thanks alot dickheads and start eating in 007 .
i have to say the losers who left 009 to go to tru were complete dogs. most if not all did nothing while in 009 and worked harder out of getting out of jobs then just handeling the jobs to begin with.most sat at tulsa all night and watched porn after getting their free food from leons on archer.dont think because you are now in tru that you have turned over a new leaf. you are still dogs as i see when you sometimes work in 009.case in point. one dpw arrest and 15 of you bozos are off the street and in 009. i cant believe that it takes 15 people to knock out a drinker. i understand now, you were dogs in the district you came from before tru and dont know how to do the paper.t.v., o.c.,l.r.,r.n.,get a life! 009 knows better and you can talk a great game behind the computer but we know the truth. keep doing your false trp's, drinkers,tvb's, and one gram of weed arrest you losers
I am a veteran Cicero Police Officer, in my opinion a police officer should NEVER file a lawsuit against another officer. So I understand the TRU officers position in regard to the arrest of our Commander. Approximately 10 years ago an on-duty Chicago Commander was driving westbound Cermak Road in a plainclothes car, blew a red light, and T-boned a vehicle northbound on Cicero Avenue. We called him an ambulance and sent him to the hospital. No DUI, no tickets. The Commander at a later date thanked us,and if it happened today, I would do the same thing. There is a big difference between an officer who is deserving of discretion, and an officer who is not doing the right thing. We have an excellent working relationship with the officers of the 8th,10th, 11th and 15th districts that surround our Town. I am disappointed that one of our officers acting like a "shithead" would turn you against our whole department! We are surrounded by three of your worst disticts, and we sometimes call for an assist. I would hate to think 1 out of 150 of our officers, would ruin what we ALL should consider a Brotherhood. I'm glad I'm at the end of my career, you young guys could have this bullshit.
Caruthers political organization is backing Brookins for States Attorney.
Dam it, shore wish eye could get more free stuff, kant seem to gets enough on-duties, so i gots to takes my family and flash the badge off-duties two, all thems restaurants are in bizness four me and iff they aint hipp wit the program right 'em an ANOV, Joe. Thats what Jehovah or that Jesus motherf*cker would due...
you tru guys think you are the shit huh? you guys dont even have your own station. you work out of an old school building that is rat infested and falling down. you think the city would provide you with a better place to work since as you claim you are the best. you aint shit asshat! go work on getting your free food tonight dogass
Bottom line is that we only have each other to count on, being that todays society hates us as a whole. I have on numerous occasions encountered Chicago PO's who had terrible attitudes and have given every one of them PC because we are part of a brotherhood. I've always had a great working relationship with Chicago and will continue to. Contrary to what is being said, Cicero Police are not looking to burn a Chicago PO. In fact we think its time that this incident is moved on from and we continue to stick together.
Fuck that lazy shitbag. He never did shit in the dicks, was a joke when he talked on his phone the whole time in gangs and has been a disgrace and embarrassment as a commander. He could not pass the sgt's test 'cause he's too fuckin' dumb. I can't believe he's trying to play the race card. Anybody who defends this dickhead should get punched in the fuckin' teeth.
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