Econ 101 and 102
The Daley administration has rejected a developer’s request for administrative approval to build Chicago’s second Wal-Mart and first super-center that sells groceries.
The decision by Planning and Development Commissioner Arnold Randall means the City Council may have no choice but to re-live the political donnybrook that gave birth to the vetoed big-box minimum wage ordinance.
Brookins accused Mayor Daley of ducking the issue to avoid alienating unions that spent millions to elect a City Council more independent of the mayor.
“You would think that, given the state of the economy, we would welcome 500 new jobs to Chicago. Instead, we’re pushing ’em away because nobody wants to take the heat from certain unions that still have issues with Wal-Mart,” he said.
But the mayor and aldercreatures continue to drive businesses from the city.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
62 Comments:
OK, For you politically correct people, holds your hands over your eyes, you will not like this response.
The main reason they do not want 500 new jobs in the black community is as follows:
The opening of this store will closed down hundreds of businesses in the neighborhood. Many of the people at these corner stores, mom and pop places and independent stores are being paid cash to supplement their welfare checks.
The Aldermen know it, the Mayor knows it. If you force them to work at Walmart, guess what... you are paid by check and can't do it while collecting Welfare, Link, WIC, SSI, SSD or the many other free checks they are getting.
All those stores also serve an income purpose for the City, the City hammers them with health and business inspection fines and also collects a City License Fee from each place.
Also the number of police officers and squad cars tied up with shoplifters and criminals (purse snatchings, car thefts and thefts from cars and other employee crimes) cost the city big cash and takes away manpower.
As much as I would love to spit in Brookins' face, he does bring a valid point.
Beggers can be chosers in Chicago apparently!
daley lives in a different universe. he has never had to worry about money. he is chicago royalty, a prince who became king.
daley, as king of chicago, will do as he wishes and you, a subject, will suffer what you must.
Holy Retards Batman!!!
Just get these businesses to invest here in Chicago. People need jobs, guns to buy and places to shop. Retards all of them. The wrong people are in charge of our governments.
Fuck Wal-Mart...I mean the chinese material disbursement outlet. Keep shopping at that place. China needs to buy more guns.
Wal-Mart! Schmaal-Mart!
I do my shopping in the burbs and on line.
then have them unionize
GREAT DICKHEAD DALEY, BUT DO NOT WORRY, THEY JUSTED STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON HUGH OUTDOORS MALL IN GRAYLAKES ,ILL. IT WILL ALSO HOUSE A WALMART SUPER STORE. AND THE SALES TAX IN LAKE COUNTY IS ONLY 6.5%. THE CITY GRAYSLAKE IS EXPECTING A HUGH TAX WINDFALL THAT THEY INTEND TO USE FOR INTRASTRUCTURE PURPOSES AND TO HIRE MORE POLICE.
Should the tax payers have to pay for a full fleet of city cars to take King Richie to Michigan all the time with body guard/ taxi drivers. The mayor and his wife arrive there separately becuase they hate each other too. That means double gas, double body guards. And triple that when his friends and other family want the free rides.
Or when the mayor's brave war hero (isnt he studying russian and will never see harm) son's drunk friends needed rides from bar to bar or for burritos when the night was over did they call a cab, no call the bodyguards.
The joke about Richie being a King is really not a joke at all. He has had bodyguards since he was a little boy driving him to DeLaSalle HS.
And when he finally doesn't run for office after the failed Olympics, he will still have bodyguards driving him for free to MICHIGAN.
KING RICHIE doesn't care about jobs and the lower class as long as he is getting free rides all his life.
If he needs more money, he will just raise the taxes!
Nobody wants to come to Chicago.Da Mayor and Crook County are pushing industry and business out.10.25% come on!!
Check this out/ re: wal-mart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZOWuiovWZ0
more wal-mart videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXUROaJApKA
shaved longcock,
You are one insightful cock. I admire your ability to interpret the total economic structure of King Daley and the serfs. Thank you.
The main reason they do not want 500 new jobs in the black community is as follows:
The opening of this store will closed down hundreds of businesses in the neighborhood. Many of the people at these corner stores, mom and pop places and independent stores are being paid cash to supplement their welfare checks.
The Aldermen know it, the Mayor knows it. If you force them to work at Walmart, guess what... you are paid by check and can't do it while collecting Welfare, Link, WIC, SSI, SSD or the many other free checks they are getting.
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First off you racist dumbass, look at the ethinic background of the alderman who fought for the big box ordinance. Some Black aldermen stated that they were only voting for it because they wanted to ensure wages. So why do White aldermen vote for the big box? Because, the areas they serve have a huge number of union members who just so happen to be white. The majority of Black aldermen voted against the Big Box ordinance, which was a vote for jobs in their community, and I won't attempt to understand why a Black alderman would vote for that ordinance. This ordinance is about unions attempted to flex their muscle in politics, although not a bad idea, but it is hurting the tax base. Even with loss due to theft a Wal Mart will make large profits in a Black community. Look at Home Depot on 87th st, the second highest grossing store in there company behind north ave. store.
NOW LETS SEE IF THIS MAKES IT ON THE BLOG.
Anonymous said...
daley lives in a different universe. he has never had to worry about money. he is chicago royalty, a prince who became king.
daley, as king of chicago, will do as he wishes and you, a subject, will suffer what you must.
3/19/2008 12:11:00 AM
In the 1950's my grandfather used to manage Marshall Fields boys shoe department. He used to say the mayors kids (then Richard J) were brats. He died in 1978, but he was right on the money.
Mom and pop stores in that area? More like Abdul & Hassham stores. Or Chang & Wang.
Mom and pop my ass.
KEEP CALLING DALEY NAMES AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE A GOOD CONTRACT IF EVER IN THIS CENTURY. WHAT'S WITH OUR CONTRACT DONAHUE??? ARE YOU WORKING IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF US OR JUST PICKING OUT THE COLOR OF YOUR NEW CAR?
Correct me if Im wrong, but wasn’t Wal-Marts big claim to fame ‘Made in the USA’??
Look at the crap in their stores now! Sure they have low prices but in order for vendors to sell their merchandise in the stores they in turn needed to manufacture their products at lower margins and subsequently it sent these jobs overseas. You do the math……..
It’s a crap store with crap in it. What’s wrong with being in a union? If you think your job is crappy with the union you could only imagine what it would be without it.
I make a good profit from selling my cigarettes indivually. I like the black community coming into my store with their link cards and charging $2 for every $1 spent. This city is great, if they build Walmart what will I do, I may have to go back to Iraq and screw over my own people. KEEP VOTING NO BIG BOX ORDINANCE. Maheeb, Owner of the Maheeb corner store 95th Bishop.
P.S. Officer you need a free pop, come see me.
People who oppose Wal-mart crack me up. All Wal-mart ever did was achieve the American dream.
I love the guy who pounds his chest because he WONT shop at Walmart, but has no problem going to another store, say Target and buying the same DVD player. Well the reason the DVD player, or anything on the shelves, is priced what it is is because Walmart set the market price.
Like you said Econ 101.
I'm not surprised you support Wal-Mart instead of the unions. Unlike most union workers who only have time for ONE union job, it is well known that CPD and CFD can have two union jobs, have a side company, etc.
I personally know cops and fireman who kept their cards for other unions and worked their off days doing something other than fire or police work.
I respect the CFD and CPD but have oftened wondered how nice it must be to get seniority, have a steady job and a lock on a pension and then have the time to open a window replacement company or roofing company (with wife, nephews or maybe a retired father running the office when I was working for the City).
Not that working two jobs is a luxury. I admire anyone who humps their ass off to pay (maybe multiple) tuition, support their family, plan for retirement, but not everyone can do that the way you people do.
I read this blog and see how you all have a code and struggle to protect each other and how hard that is becoming (working with backstabbers or because of technology--videos, etc.) but if you hold a card in a labor union, don't you owe some allegiance to that as well?
Having said that, from someone on the outside looking in, as workers who benefit from the unions, I wish you would be more supportive of them. I can see how you want to jam it to Daley and his criminal empire, but please don't do it at the expense of organized labor.
The "mom and pop" stores of which you preach are largely owned by Arab families who live far away from the Chicago borders.
This is Daley's effort to keep polictical heat off himself while he gambles the city's future on the Olympics.
This decision is a disaster for the city, but the mayor could care less as long as it keeps his Olympic dream alive.
Daley is right on this one. if Walmart gets in here with groceries and stores all over the place, they will kill jewel and dominicks. so what? Jewel is the 4th largest employer in chicago. they offer competitve wages, healthcare, flexible hours and a decent profit sharing plan. people have retired from jewel. Walmart will under-cut these places until they are out of business. Then they will gain a monopoly, pay their employees shit, no healthcare, no benefits, no nothing. and you will see the prices rise afterwards. don't shop there. fuck them.
Simply don't allow Walmart to sell smokes or lottery tickets. That is what most of the mom and pops carry. Oh and the 25 cent bags of chips and cheap pop for breakfast for the future altar kids, in the process of gettin' it together.
MAN that SHAVEDLONCOCK is ALWAYS on the MONEY!
Damn I think I am in love!
Answer me e-mail Shaved! Please!
Just to show how stupid this City of Chicago is really run!
The suburb of Bellwood, IL. announced that they will get a Wal-mart Supercenter in 2009, right next to the Eisenhower and 25th ave. They project about 6 million a year in sales tax revenues, alone!!!!!!!!
Are you listening bonehead Mayor Daley and idiotic Aldercreatures!
That new Wal-mart Supercenter is not even a 10 minute drive from the Westside of Chicago on most days!
Wal-mart is doing a Supercenter ring around this City with their new stores!
There are Wal-marts in Niles, and soon to be Bellwood, Northlake, Bedford Park, Oak Lawn and Indiana border! All of these locations are within striking distance of this stupid city!
With this city of Chicago not getting a penny of tax revenues!
Also I own stock in Wal-mart and I am glad to see what Wal-mart has been doing quietly for the last few years in fact and we don't need Chicago at all!
It is Chicago's loss and Wal-marts shareholders gain!
I'm buying more shares of Wal-mart while it is still cheap to buy!
We need more corporate facilities here. One of the biggest mistakes was the closing of Meigs Fields. Many Corporate execs used to fly in to attend the McCormick Place trade shows, etc... Not any more.
Night club owners don't even want to do business here because Daley & co. have made it too difficult to begin and grow anything here.
These people/corporations have left for places such as LA, FL, etc. that not only WELCOME them but encourage the corporate environment to flourish.
F*** Wal*Mart, the idea that they generate any tax revenue for their communities is immediately offset by the fact that they instruct their employees how to get on Medicaid.
Or when the mayor's brave war hero (isnt he studying russian and will never see harm) son's drunk friends needed rides from bar to bar or for burritos when the night was over did they call a cab, no call the bodyguards.
The joke about Richie being a King is really not a joke at all. He has had bodyguards since he was a little boy driving him to DeLaSalle HS.
get it on tape or shut up
KEEP CALLING DALEY NAMES AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE A GOOD CONTRACT IF EVER IN THIS CENTURY. WHAT'S WITH OUR CONTRACT DONAHUE??? ARE YOU WORKING IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF US OR JUST PICKING OUT THE COLOR OF YOUR NEW CAR?
3/19/2008 12:37:00 PM
your a pussy.
and he won't see write another ticket
There are Wal-marts in Niles, and soon to be Bellwood, Northlake, Bedford Park, Oak Lawn and Indiana border! All of these locations are within striking distance of this stupid city!
yup there are two wal-marts in niles if chicago keeps it up they will open another one
Wal-Mart! Schmaal-Mart!
I do my shopping in the burbs and on line.
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I "cross da line" too over to the burbs for my everyday stuff, no more city shopping for me. Anything big, go to Lake Co or DuPage Co. East siders just go to Hannond. Cha Ching!!
When was the last time da mayor or da wife filled up their car with a tank of gas?
The only reason I don't like shopping at WalMart is that I feel like I need a f#cking passport. You feel as though your are in some 3rd world nation of non-English speaking illegal immigrants. Sometimes it's not worth the "bargains".
People who shop there bring their entire extended families for the WalMart outing and they're screaming some freakish language or the standard Spanish. I'd rather be checked out by someone who can say hello to me in English who's not wearing a turban on their head.
Signed: an American who's tired of of seeing this country go down the tubes.
Retail doesn't create jobs. It just moves 'em around. People aren't going to travel from Iowa to shop at a south side Walmart, and south siders aren't going to drive to Mokena to buy groceries and pants, so the jobs are going to be somewhere within 8 miles of there. Whether Chicago wants them in or out of the city isn't a big deal to me. Walmart is welcome to buy a building in the city zoned for retail and open up. They're asking for favors, and they're not getting them.
The city regularly give ridiculous incentives to get industrial jobs and finance/corporate jobs, which are often new jobs for the region. Even then, it ain't worth the tax breaks given away, but anyway, I'm bored with this story. Who cares? Let Walmart
The only reason I don't like shopping at WalMart is that I feel like I need a f#cking passport. You feel as though your are in some 3rd world nation of non-English speaking illegal immigrants. Sometimes it's not worth the "bargains".
People who shop there bring their entire extended families for the WalMart outing and they're screaming some freakish language or the standard Spanish. I'd rather be checked out by someone who can say hello to me in English who's not wearing a turban on their head.
Signed: an American who's tired of of seeing this country go down the tubes.
3/19/2008 10:09:00 PM
All real Americans looks like me, talk like me, walk like me...you sound just TIRED!!!!
Signed: an American who's tired of of seeing this country go down the tubes.
3/19/2008 10:09:00 PM
You must be a native american. What tribe may I ask?
I call BS. you are not american:
you are just a cheap import.
"KEEP CALLING DALEY NAMES AND YOU WILL NEVER SEE A GOOD CONTRACT IF EVER IN THIS CENTURY. WHAT'S WITH OUR CONTRACT DONAHUE??? ARE YOU WORKING IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF US OR JUST PICKING OUT THE COLOR OF YOUR NEW CAR?
3/19/2008 12:37:00 PM"
Fuck you, Richie, get off the blog.
"People who oppose Wal-mart crack me up. All Wal-mart ever did was achieve the American dream."
You mean the dream of fucking their employees, pissing on the unions, running small businesses into bankruptcy and screwing up our manufacturing base by flooding the retail markets with cheap, slave-made goods from communist China?
You mean that 'American' dream?
Why isnt there a term limit for Mayor?
3/19/2008 12:16:00 PM
I was interested in your point. Could you repost it in English please? Thanks, Dawg.
Simply don't allow Walmart to sell smokes or lottery tickets. That is what most of the mom and pops carry. Oh and the 25 cent bags of chips and cheap pop for breakfast for the future altar kids, in the process of gettin' it together.
3/19/2008 04:33:00 PM
No flamin' hots or grape pop. That will ensure the integrity of the Habeeb Ghetto Emporium.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
35th street i observed two high ranking officers talking about "DECEPTION" in their conversation regarding the way a certain demoted commander J.g.C. hit the medical the same day he was sent to 021. almost sounds like a DAWG.
3/19/2008 12:33:00 PM
Look at his boy roy "Roy Roy" Buffo he put at the airport, just like carroll a dawg ass who does nothing but undermine the bosses over him!
3/19/2008 10:52:00 PM
Roy won't be at the airport much longer. timmy is selling him out so tim can stay at midway.
or in bred people with red necks walking around in cammo yelling geter done. or if your 8 month old is wearing 80 dollar timberlands and you are on ssi and section eight. god i love america such a melting pot.
I applaud the Mayor's decision to halt this project. However, I suggest he reconsider the intent of the project. I believe it to be - provide South Side residents the ability to purchase high quality goods at reasonable prices. I for one think the location to be chosen for this store is changed to 95th Street just west of Perry. There is this piece of property there masquerading as a church. The City can condemn it - as God has already I'm sure - and replace it with a legitimate business that will better serve the community at large. Perhaps the gentleman who works at that church could be hired as a greeter at the new Wal Mart. I understand he has anger management issues and perhaps this new career would be beneficial in lowering his blood pressure.
Just a Thought!!!
Old Grey Guy Here - stay safe boys and girls. My memory isn't what it used to be, but back in the late 60's a Police Officer lost his life across the street from this church. Can't remember his name but he was the Police - not Negro (that's what society called African Americans back then) as he was, he was simply the POLICE pure and simple. God Rest His Soul!! I wonder how he feels as he looks down from above and sees Barack and Jeremiah spew their hatred.
PS: I sign it as Old Grey Guy because I can't figure out how to set up my name as a poster. Computer literate I'm not.
I don't shop in CROOK COUNTY
Anonymous said...
The only reason I don't like shopping at WalMart is that I feel like I need a f#cking passport. You feel as though your are in some 3rd world nation of non-English speaking illegal immigrants. Sometimes it's not worth the "bargains".
People who shop there bring their entire extended families for the WalMart outing and they're screaming some freakish language or the standard Spanish. I'd rather be checked out by someone who can say hello to me in English who's not wearing a turban on their head.
Signed: an American who's tired of of seeing this country go down the tubes.
3/19/2008 10:09:00 PM
You are so right,Walmart is the ultimate shithole cesspool of lowlife illegal aliens.
WALMART SUCKS
I WOULDN'T BUY ANYTHING IN THAT COMMUNIST CHINESSE SHITHOLE
Anonymous said...
I'm not surprised you support Wal-Mart instead of the unions. Unlike most union workers who only have time for ONE union job, it is well known that CPD and CFD can have two union jobs, have a side company, etc.
I personally know cops and fireman who kept their cards for other unions and worked their off days doing something other than fire or police work...
3/19/2008 04:25:00 PM
Dont give me that sanctimonious union crap! Listen here, union-boy. Have you ever worked a side-job at someones home or business? According to union rules, you are not to do so. You are taking a job that could have been given to someone via proper union channels, you probably worked for less than union scale, you skirted taxes and social security payments, and took a job that one of your laid off union brothers could have had if the job site had gone through the union for the job.
You union guys work as many, if not more side jobs than Police and Firemen.
5:50 AM
May God bless the soul of Officer
LEROY BERRY, #12789, 5th Dist.
End of Tour: October 9, 1969.
"Old Grey Guy":
For the record, it was Patrolman LEROY BERRY that was shot and killed at 9540 S. Harvard, just east of the railroad tracks from what is now the Trinity United Church of Christ.
We remember our brother in BLUE. Rest In Peace.
Olds Grey Guy says thanks for the information on Officer Berry. May his soul rest in peace.
HEY SCC,
IS THERE ANY SEGMENT OF CORPORATE AMERICA THAT YOU DON'T FIRMLY AFFIX YOUR LIPS TO THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES?
WalMart has been a tremendous boom for Evergreen Park. All through EVPk there is a ton of street/sewer/sidewalk replacement in progress.
HEY SCC,
IS THERE ANY SEGMENT OF CORPORATE AMERICA THAT YOU DON'T FIRMLY AFFIX YOUR LIPS TO THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES?
And what part of the unions and liberal nanny state are you sucking on? Unions have long since served their purpose and are now nothing more than big money special interest groups pushing a liberal agenda we do not support.
"And what part of the unions and liberal nanny state are you sucking on? Unions have long since served their purpose and are now nothing more than big money special interest groups pushing a liberal agenda we do not support.
3/21/2008 07:52:00 PM"
So, why do you belong to a union?
We don't.
We belong to a "fraternal order."
Unions have the power to strike and advocate slow downs and work stoppages to bring management to it's knees.
We have none of that and any advocacy for work actions is an immediately fire-able offense.
Any "wins" we acquire in the course of negotiations are those given to us by the administration, those granted by an arbitrator, or those overlooked by the City and won in the legislature.
Don't ever pretend that we belong to a "union."
"Don't ever pretend that we belong to a "union."
3/21/2008 11:15:00 PM"
We should.
It would be nice if the tax revenue generated from a new mega store would go to the neighborhood that welcomes it. It all goes to a big pot in the city and where does it go to???? Maybe zip code dispersment of tax revenue from all new development. Who decides where it goes to? Aldercreatures, Local Redevelopment Corps, a citizens group within the zip code? Better school funding and buildings,streets, extra patrol officers and parks. Give us the control of funds and where it is spent and I think neighborhoods could regenerate themselves.
Anonymous said...
I make a good profit from selling my cigarettes indivually. I like the black community coming into my store with their link cards and charging $2 for every $1 spent. This city is great, if they build Walmart what will I do, I may have to go back to Iraq and screw over my own people. KEEP VOTING NO BIG BOX ORDINANCE. Maheeb, Owner of the Maheeb corner store 95th Bishop.
P.S. Officer you need a free pop, come see me.
3/19/2008 03:57:00 PM
Simple,Concise,and Correct.
"It would be nice if the tax revenue generated from a new mega store would go to the neighborhood that welcomes it. It all goes to a big pot in the city and where does it go to???? Maybe zip code dispersment of tax revenue from all new development. Who decides where it goes to? Aldercreatures, Local Redevelopment Corps, a citizens group within the zip code? Better school funding and buildings,streets, extra patrol officers and parks. Give us the control of funds and where it is spent and I think neighborhoods could regenerate themselves.
3/22/2008 09:48:00 AM"
Now, that would defeat the purpose which those in power have used the tax system for.
Check out Ben Joravsky's many articles on TIF's at:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/tifarchive/
WalMart has been a tremendous boom for Evergreen Park. All through EVPk there is a ton of street/sewer/sidewalk replacement in progress.
3/21/2008 03:27:00 PM
Really? I live in Evergreen Park. I would not go back to in that store ever! Inside, wall to wall fucking people. Outside, motherfuckers double and triple parked.
All they did was move the nonsense into the suburb.
You union guys work as many, if not more side jobs than Police and Firemen.
3/20/2008 08:54:00 AM
If they do, it's only to fix all the jobs that the firemen and policemen fucked up.
dick head sez we have to live in chiago but i spend as little money inside as humanly possible; NO GASOLINE , NO GROCERIES AND SURE AS HELL NOW NO DAMN BOTTLE OF WATER/// I HAVE TO LIVE HERE TO EARN IT BUT I CAN STILL SPEND IT OUT OF THIS FUCKING CITY/// FUCK IT///
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