Kirby Sweating - Mayor, Too
Monique here again. Boy it was an interesting day in the media yesterday, wasn't it? I had to field a whole bunch of phone calls regarding Deb Kirby, what she knew and when she knew it. It was like working for the Carter Administration. Or was that the Nixon people? I can never keep those guys straight. Anyway, the heat is on and the mayor himself had to step up and read the media the riot act. I mean, if the mayor has to tell you to shut up and stop asking questions, you know there's got to be a huge story buried in there somewhere:
- The new head of the Chicago Police Department is standing by his choice to be his top legal adviser, despite a memo that raises questions about how she handled complaints about officers in an elite drug and gang unit. A memo obtained by the Chicago Tribune shows that an internal affairs investigator complained in June 2005 that his superiors had not approved a more aggressive probe of the Special Operations Section, despite mounting evidence of wrongdoing. The unit has since been disbanded, and seven of its former members face charges of robbery, kidnapping and making false arrests.
If I missed like 30 press conferences, someone would be screaming for my head. Well, maybe not. Pat would probably step in and be happy for the face time on the TV (he misses it). But these jokers miss at least that many court appearances? And the CR investigations? And the money beefs? And the alleged home invasions? All mysteriously disappear for years.
Oh, and did everyone see me quoted in the article? I'm soooo excited! I have to remember to get that one for my scrapbook:
Oh, and did everyone see me quoted in the article? I'm soooo excited! I have to remember to get that one for my scrapbook:
- Kirby's promotion was part of a massive reorganization by Weis that also included replacing 21 of 25 district commanders.
"The FBI has had a close working relationship with Deb Kirby," police spokeswoman Monique Bond said. "Supt. Weis has full confidence in all of the command changes he made."
Bond said that prior to the memo being sent, some SOS officers' behavior was "under review" by the confidential investigations section, but that would have been secret, even from other people in internal affairs.
"Massive reorganization" doesn't even begin to describe what I'm doing to my rolodex, let me tell you. And that close working relationship with the FBI? It's a smokescreen seeing as Weis is ex-FBI now and it doesn't really matter. The full confidence thing is a boilerplate phrase we use when there's so much BS in the air, you can't even walk down a hallway without slipping on some.
The Tribune has a HUGE article that covers even more of the situation.
Signed,
Monique Bonds
UPDATE: Here's the mayor defending Kirby. That's kind of unusual. You think Deb knows where the investigations went south? Where the clout was? Who covered up for whom? How high the money went?
UPDATE: Here's the FBI releasing a statement that they aren't investigating Kirby. It sure seems like a lot of people are getting out in front of this media investigation and denying that they have anything to do with any part of it.
The Tribune has a HUGE article that covers even more of the situation.
Signed,
Monique Bonds
UPDATE: Here's the mayor defending Kirby. That's kind of unusual. You think Deb knows where the investigations went south? Where the clout was? Who covered up for whom? How high the money went?
UPDATE: Here's the FBI releasing a statement that they aren't investigating Kirby. It sure seems like a lot of people are getting out in front of this media investigation and denying that they have anything to do with any part of it.
Labels: monique speaks, sarcasm AND silliness, scandals
posted by SCC at 8:00 AM
235 Comments:
THE FBI ARE F-CKUPS. LETS NOT FORGET THE WACO INCIDENT, THE INFORMATION THEY HAD ON THE 9/11 HIJACKERS BUT FAILED TO ACT. (LITTLE HARD WHEN YOU WORK MONDAY THRU FRIDAY/ 0900/TO 1700HRS. WEEKENDS OFF AND SA ROBERT HANSEN. KIRBY HAILS FROM THE 19TH WARD, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRIMINAL EMPIRES ALONG WITH THE 11TH WARD.
LEAKED DETAILED MEMOS
HYPOTHETICALLY:
JODY KNOCKED OFF HIS OTHER COMPETITION WITH THE MANDATORY RETIREMENT NOTICES
GRAU DANA ETC ETC.
THE MAYOR ADMITS KIRBY APPLIED TO BE THE HEAD CHEESE.
THE MAYOR MADE MOST OF THE PICK FOR THE SUPE STAFF..
J-FED KNOWS THE WHOLE FILE ON SOS BUT DOES NOT WANT TO GET HIT WITH THIS CRAP LATER.
JODY HAS THE PAPER WORK LEAKED AND WA-LAAAA KIRBY ASS IS BURNING!!!
NOW WE WILL SEE IF SHE WILL FALL ON THE SWORD LIKE A GOOD CLOUT HACK OR IS SHE WAITING FOR THE MAYOR TO PROMOTE HER.
REMEMBER ALL IAD BOSSES KEEP SECRET FILES AS GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARDS .YOU EVER NOTICE PO'S IN IAD ARE PROMOTED AT A HIGHER RATE THAN ANY OTHER UNIT.
2ND HYPO
AN ELECTION IS GOING ON IN THE STATES ATTORNEY OFFICE. THE LEAD CHICANA HAS HAD DEALINGS WITH THE SOS CREW. HER THEORY THROW THE SHIT AGAINST THE WALL AND SEE WHAT STICKS. HER THINKING THAT PUT IT ON WEIS BEFORE THE BALLOTS ARE CAST.
A REAL FBI AGENT WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THE LEAK. IS J-FED THE REAL FBI OR A PAPER PUSHER WITH AN UGLY TIE.
The best thing about this whole story is that the one IAD Rat ratted out his IAD Rat boss over a fucking piece of cheese.
These people have so sense of loyalty whatsoever.
Debra Kirby is "very, very good, a very good attorney, a very good public servant, a very good police officer. I interviewed her for superintendent. That's how good she is..."
"Change is good. Change is always good."
This is silly, silly, just plain silly. I still can't believe the stupidity of the Chicago electorate and the media.
My rambling drivel shuts them up every time and they still re-elect me in a landslide. Ah, the Chicago Way!
Cline was extremely short term in his thinking. SOS did not do big dope for years, in fact , they were not allowed to do search warrants. They were not set up to do those particular missions. Cline let them run loose, hoping that his time would end before the S### hit the fan. He loved parading around with the guns from their missions, etc.. Many people saw the whole thing coming, then there was the no see IAD who actually was on the sidelines. Everyone here can figure out what happened.
when a p.o. has knowledge of any inproprieties committed by any clout heavy po or any politician and he uses the chain of command - that chain of command for some reason informs city hall (da mayor) - who then tells the top of the chain of command how to handle the matter - in most cases - quiet the squeaky wheel.
Taliafero did not know, nor did the Tribune, that there had already been an open investigation in the Confidential Section regarding the SOS mess. Bob Milan is a stone faced LIAR when he says that CPD did not bring this case to them first. And you'd be surprised and worried to find out just how close the working relationship with the FBI has become over the last two years.
Let's not forget that the other p.o., McLaughlin, was kicked out of IAD several years ago due to some sort of connection to Corey Flagg and company.
Everyone is salivating over getting Kirby dirty on this SOS thing. It isn't going to happen. ALL the facts have never been presented because it is still considered an open case, but continue the mindless speculation in the mean time...I mean you read it in a newspaper, it must be true! Right?
Off Course a bit BUT, Anyone know the results of the CFD v CPD Hockey game last weekend?
Since when do the FBI come out and make statements saying an individual isnt under investigation.....
Ill tell you when when an ex FBI buddy (J-Fed) calls them and asks them to do him a favor by doing just that.
Do you think they will come out and make a statement saying Daley and Blago arent under investigaion?
FBI plays the same clout games as CPD...just look at all the buddies JFED is bringing.
Per Da Midget,"Change is good, Change is always good." Maybe we need a change on the 5th floor of City Hall too!!
Well this plans seems like it will work. There is NO way they can be shot/jumped on DURING school!
A well thought out plan Alderman Fioretti!!
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Police to watch over buses
When spring break ends next week, Crane students from ABLA -- also known as "the Village" -- will gather at one central location each morning. CTA buses will pick them up after they've walked en masse to the bus stop.
Then a Chicago Police escort will follow the buses to a transfer point, where under the watchful eyes of even more officers, they will board second buses to Crane at 2245 W. Jackson. They will enter the school under police watch.
"On their way home, it will be vice versa," said Ald. Bob Fioretti (2nd).
Fioretti was among the officials who met last Tuesday to negotiate the plan after it became clear that ABLA students were not going to return to school until they felt safe. ABLA parents had called the school, police, their alderman. They said generations of gang violence had taught them what was coming.
SCC,
How about a post on how the US Supreme Court is hearing the first 2nd Amendment case in over 50 years today that could end Chicago's, and every other US city's, gun ban.
http://video.nbc5.com/
player/?id=229994
Here is why their are beads of sweat on both their foreheads. The story is that the Abate Incident, the tape of it, was known to IAd BEFORE THE MEDIA GOT IT. The tape was brought to the attention of the Mayoral Press secretary, Jackie Heard who instructed Kirby to Bury it , because it was damaging and inflamatory to the little guy. Kirby complied but the tape surfaced anyway, someone has got to pay opps time for a new Supt. Now we have the latest golden boy, J-Fraud who never answered a call in his life, doesnt know how to handle a domestic orhold a roll call with 25 pissed off police officers. He gets his orders from the hall nothing changes, Kirby rewarded to keep quiet.
This story is in its infancy,they are desperately attempting to kill it in the worst way. It is not going to go magically away though,there have been way too many individuals harmed and or destroyed by this monstrosity.
There are some people scrutinizing every little detail and putting it all under a high powered microscope,and patiently collecting and analyzing all the facts.
This will be very big,indeed...
1st week after changes and look at this;
Kirby on the hot seat as well as Martin.
I hear there is a someone at IAD with a huge skeleton that is about to be released from their closet.
From what I hear, Kirby will be wiping yolk off her face from this.
Stay tuned!
If anyone needs to talk or feels the need to clear the air,thus averting undue anxiety:
United States Attorney
Federal Building
219 South Dearborn Street, Fifth Floor
Chicago, Illinois 60604
(312) 353-5300
Read the comments under the last post,this really makes me wonder what the next MAJOR diversion is going to be.
They want this off of the front page in a BIG way,time to create a new story.
The FBI has a long standing policy of letting CPD bosses slip thru the cracks while they go after the easier, less connected little guy. The working patrolman has better and longer lasting news copy and cannot ask favors of the editors to lessen the press play.
Anyone who has had long career with the city has seen this. The fact thet DC and MT are protected is nothing new. We even had a boss who wore a wire several years ago, the feds forgave him and let him go onto another clout city job.
After all, don't forget the feds usually coverup their own and let them "retire" rather than prosecute.
Been listening to Hussien Obama for 30 min. now and he has said nothing. He did talk about slavery but, he is not decended from slaves. His father was from Africa and his mother was white and from Kansas. He talks about and defends Right Rev. Wright and says that Wright baptised his daughters, married him and his wife and coverted him to Christianity. My question is from WHAT to Christianity. From Judism?, From Buddism? Converted from what? Oh, maybe Islam? Muslim, you know the religon of Osama Bin Laden! The same ones who hate America and are trying to destroy America with anti America retoric like the Right Rev. Wright.
He turned it around and is now blaming the white race for all of America's and all of the world's problems.
When he ended his speech he said nothing, as usual. He got his free political speech at mid-day prime time, keep all of the sob sisters waiting to hang on his every
word (of bullshit).
Does anybody think that relations between the CPD and ASA's are going to get even more strained???
Kirby is either VERY HEAVY, or she played ball all along and was inept on purpose and this was her reward.
DUMP HER! She has hurt a lot of people. Just stripped a guy recently on a 5 year old beef.
Nothing ever changes and nothing ever will. When the deptartment arrests T.H. from 011 for the off duty murder committed on Madison in Jan 1998 then and only then will it be considered legit. While you're at it get Frank "the rat" for covering up the murder. As far as the SOS thing goes Kirby and IAD did what they were told and what would benefit them. If the States Attorney never started the investigation the SOS guys would still be doing what they were doing. Interesting that only the Mayor and CPD remember all these meetings with other agencies even after the other agencies claim these meetings never happened. Same shit different day you got the clout you'll get away with everything including murder, ask T.H. form 011 No clout then IAD and CPD will give you time maybe 30 pending just ask many unfortunate po's who have been the victim's of the no clout system.
Here is something to ponder "Da Mayor" was over seas getting ideas for the Olympics when the States Attorney dropperd this bomb. When Da Mayor came home it was full blown, funny how Cline was told to take a walk even funnier when "Da" Vine was told not to even think about running again.
maybe it was all a dream....
And you were there...And you were there.. AND YOU WERE THE SCARECROW
It is very,very interesting that Superintendent Phil Cline's General Counsel,Sheri Mecklenburg, resigned and is now positioned at the US Attorney's Office.
Things that make you go Hmmmmmm...
Well, at least it didn't take long. Anybody who thought that Weis would be independent of the Mayor now knows better.
Why is DALEY defending WEIS' appointment? Makes you wonder if it really was WEIS' appointment? Say it ain't so, J-Fed.
So let me get this straight.....Kirby dropped the ball because almost all if not all the complaints against Finnegan and company were not sustained! Where there is smoke, there must be fire....right? So many beefs, even not sustained must be indicative of something.
OK, but on the other side of that coin, FOP and almost everyone in the department bitches about the bullshit beefs that come down, how IAD is out to screw everyone, and it's all just so much of a conspiracy to screw a copper at any cost. If the facts aren't there, then it has to be not sustained or unfounded.
How about there is no conspiracy, everyone thought Finnegan and company were no good, but proof wasn't coming. Not sustained.
If the court section had done their jobs and deviated them for missing court, maybe it would have come to light. As it is, the case went forward under Kirby and Finnegan and company are behind bars.
Which way is it people? Facts speak, not opinions. You can't have it both ways. And anyone who thinks that for one second Kirby would undermine such an investigation or let things like that go are drinking the kool-aid.
When you get a chance to expose corruption, the one thing to remember is to never stop digging.
Just like in that street fight, don't stop raining blows until the assailant is rendered impotent and thoroughly submissive, preferably because the assailant is unconscious.
Now is not the time for timidity or misplaced mercy.
These assailants on our pocketbooks and on common honesty and decency show us no mercy, thus, they deserve none themselves.
Their sweating needs to evolve into profuse bleeding before they will be rendered impotent.
That's the goal, to render the rapists of our pocketbooks impotent.
Keep whacking away at those nut sacks, sooner or later, something's gotta give and someone's gotta give it up.
If only we, the taxpayers, could contract Burge to come out of retirement, for a little Burge-style one-on-one with all the 'usual suspects'.....
I am not privy to the local goings-on of other major cities( N.Y., L.A., Houston) and /or their police departments but can they be as fucking retarded as us?
This city and police department must look like fucking idiots to the rest of the nation.
I guess the only upside is that maybe we won't get those fucking Olympics.
Off topic, but impt.
NEWS ALERT
from The Wall Street Journal
March 18, 2008
The Supreme Court heard arguments about the meaning of the Second Amendment and the District of Columbia's ban on handguns. A majority of justices appears to support the view that the amendment protects an individual's right to own guns, rather than linking the right only to service in a state militia. But it is less clear what that means for the District's 32-year-old ban on handguns, perhaps the strictest gun control law in the nation. The case is likely to produce the most important firearms ruling in generations. A ruling is expected by summer.
SCC,
I am nominating you for a Pulitzer for hardhitting,groundbreaking and timely journalism.
Meeting of the heads being convened today to strategize out of the impending firestorm.
"The FBI isn't investigating Kirby..."
The FBI couldn't investigate an in-custody domestic murder.
Shouldn't Fitzgerald and his boys be the ones that investigate Kirby?
Former feeb Weis is not gonna be fucked with by the FBI.
Let's see - a specialized unit goes down for court cases that get nolle'd or sol'd; allegations involving drug dealers, bribery, etc. Does anyone here actually think that anyone besides patrol officers are gonna go down for this? Does "Marquette 10" still ring a bell with anyone? Sure; those guys did it all on their own. If you believe that, I've got some AZ swamp land to sell. Kirby is in a coverup up to her eyeballs and before anyone anoints Taliaferro to sainthood they should read one of his "investigations". What a tool!
If she did nothing wrong leave her alone. If she violated the law arrest her.
Of course this would be like me walking into Obama's office and arresting him for receiving a
bribe(s) from Rezko. Rezko never met a man he didn't bribe. I know he did it, he knows he did it, all true democrats know he did it. But this is Chicago, we have to wait for a Republican U. S. Attorney to take action.
Someday, we can only dream. But in the meantime To all city workers, coppers, firemen, sanitation workers, office clerks etc. DO NOT STEAL ANYTHING... that is the job of our elected officials and their friends.
This is some proper hair gel policing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMCU-hKfK8M&NR=1
HEY SCC...Help me out here.
Got into a debate with my partner over DUI. Help us settle this debate. The question is... Can you still be charged with a DUI if you BAC is under a .05? According to IVC...if your BAC is betweeen .05-.08 there is a presumtion that you are not under the influence of alcohol. My partner says that if your BAC is under .05 that the subject has to be released w/o charging. I disagree. It is my understanding that as long as you can show that alcohol impaired someones driving, they still can be charged.
Who is right?
How interesting that she is the Sup's general council. She has never tried a case. She is merely a cop with a law degree. I am sure that Weiss could find some retired AUSA or ASA that has more qualifications adn less baggage.
I'll tell you again: the Supt. is so-so smart that we are led to think he is stupid. Far from it. He is keeping kirby thisclose in order to monitor her actions, techniques, contacts, and MOs.
We all know the adage of keeping your friends close but your enemies closer.
J-fed is no different.
This story is picking up steam on the national newswire.
SCC,
You need to plug into the AP Wire and Rueters.
The Feds investigate violations of the RICO act. IAD had to down play their invest. in order to keep the Fed part viable.
When the heads roll it will be uphill. Stay tuned
something I wonder:...when the civil suits filed by "victims" of the SOS folks proceed, will any or all of the internal documents, investigations, ever see the light of day? I mean, will the public get a chance to see who knew what, and when, and how the cases were investigated and classified?
off topic...why is whoever in charge of this "war protest" sending us in field uniform with orders to bring bdu's and riot gear? are we supposed to change on the street into the "big bad black" uniform? while the crap is hitting the fan? stupidest shit ever. thought our federal agent was supposed to have some plucking sense.
Bet JAN-DILLION 017 Dist.
Is sweatin more, payback bitch !!!!
The little man with the facial hair is comin-n ta get you !!!!
Maybe the department can define exactly what "Just Cause" is.
Does it mean the more clout you have,the more Rules & Regulations you can violate with immunity?
DALEY BACKS NEW POLICE LAWYER!!!
WTF: What else is he going to say? Oops, we made an error? He also says.."very, very, good, a very good attorney, a very good public servant (just chucked a little in my mouth on that one), a very good police officer." She is? What stellar police work has she performed, and how many cases has she handled in court as an attorney? Public Servant?? Sure, she falls right in with the rest of the corruption in the city. The article states she was aware of SOS problems, no shit, she didn't do a thing about it, that's the problem.
Where was she before IAD? VICE. Any problems with that unit? What person did she get promoted to run her Confidential section and now got promoted to Command the 7th District?
Perhaps the Trib should look into her powerbase on the SW side of the city. Say what you want about who ran SOS...investigations are killed through IAD. KIRBY and ROWAN did exactly what they were told to do. Politicians do not care how we do our job as long as it makes them look good, when we make them look bad, they hang us out to dry. SOS got lots of heads and guns, and the Mayor of the city of Chicago got to stand in press conferences and preen. As soon as these boys got greedy, fucked up and drew attention to themselves...we are now living the results. Nothing will happen to KIRBY or ROWAN, they will continue getting fat off our tax dollars.
I remember Kirby on midnights still going to school. She was inept then as a Burglary Dick.
I may be wrong but can anyone tell me why she's a "Very, Very, Very good attorney'? (Lil Rich)
Has she ever convicted anyone in a court trial? Defended anyone in a criminal trial? I've been around all the branches during my time and don't recall Ever seeing her.
Lil Rich, how about your expertise in deciding the status of an attorney. I do recall you having to have taken the bar several times before you finally passedand once again I don't remember you in court either. Although you were appointed States Attorney.
How would you know a good attorney?
Also, if she were interviewed as you say and not chosen you must have seen an undesirable side that made her unfit to be Sup.
It's an old story. When they know too much (dirt) bring them into the fold to keep them in line.
Jody you are being a dupe.
Dupe me if you want for $300,000. plus per yr.
Kirby...Martin...Shields...great choices so far J-fraud
The Sun Times has nothing about this story in todays internet edition. So it must be bad for Daley.
So the police are gonna escort the shithead gangbangers to and from the Ali-baba homes.
What happens when an opposing gangbanger shoots and the taxpayers bus which is occupied by non-taxpayers and guarded by taxpaying policemen whose salaries are paid by working, taxpaying citizens.
I guess protecting criminal enterprizes is nothing new to Chicago, a lot of old time bosses got a lot of money for doing just that years ago.
How about making this escort duty a secondary employment detail. Time and a half for standing between these gangbangers. The salaries can be paid for by the enterprizes of Rev. J. Wright, Jesse Jackson, Asshole Al Sharpton, and all of the other Reverands. I thought things were supposed to improve after J-Fed took over.
They made Kirby general Counsel in an effort to sklow down her movement into private practice and consequently suing the police.
I was a Houston cop before I came here to Chicago PD (HUGE mistake btw). Trust me, CPD is FUBAR. There are some great coppers here but the organization (leadership) is incompetent to the point of criminal negligence.
After seeing something like this, I think just about every good copper that works in IAD would beg to differ on Daley’s comments about what a “great police officer Kirby is”. Just about everyone there was happy to see her leave!
I worked Confidential Investigations for 6 years with Chris Taliaferro, before Kirby gave me the boot and I’ll be the first to say he’s a great guy. You’re good in Kirby’s eyes until you ask questions and ruffle feathers, like Chris and I did, then you get smacked down! Chris and I worked together on several cases and any time either one of us would dig something up that would strike a nerve with Kirby, she’d shut it down or say she’d look into it. You try doing the right thing, going after the “real” bad coppers, and you hit a political brick wall on anything that is “too hot”.
Daley was right about one thing, we did have solid information on the guys in SOS five and six years ago. The problem was all the guys we wanted to go after were all being protected by Tobias! Allegations would come in on Tobias’s former team members and he would screen them. Then he’d set his supervisors in motion to quash them. Kirby knew this when she got to IAD and did nothing about it!
The question of why these guys were out there for so long getting away with this stuff wasn’t because we didn’t have good intel on them, it was because Kirby chose NOT to take action on the intel we got! And in doing so, Tobias empowered and emboldened his little army of “rouge cops” until it got so out of hand and in your face in the media that Kirby couldn’t play that game any more.
It was evident to everyone at IAD when she got there that Kirby was all about herself. She wanted to make a name for herself right from the beginning and was more interested in padding her resume with statistics of officers she gave 30 pending to or fired vs. conducting legitimate investigations. Her opinion was that aggressive officers have measurable patterns of misconduct and can be identified through pattern profiling an officers CR history. It didn’t matter how good a copper was at police work, if she could put another notch in her belt, she was happy.
This new strategy was suppose to set a new precedence of how IAD investigations would be conducted, but as she started trumping up allegations and criminal charges on officers and losing cases in court, lawsuits started rolling in. I know of at least 3 federal lawsuits pending against her from police officers, which are going to cost the city’s tax payers millions! It’s amazing how quiet they kept all this.
Supt. Weis is going to be in for a big surprise when trials and litigation start on these cases and Kirby finds herself in a whirlwind trying to justify what she did to these officers.
More to come…
Seriously,
Can we get rid of references to "drinking the kool aid?" It sounds so retarded and I view it as an open invitation to mock and belittle. Belittling the writer is like taking candy from a baby.
P.S. "Asshat" is getting old too. We need some new slang around here.
3/18
11:20am
How do you explain ignoring a combined total of over 700 court deviations being overlooked? Stick your head in the sand all you want but wake the fuck up cause the facts and the proof are out there, IAD and higher ups on this department knew what these guys were doing, maybe you better lay off the Kool Aid.
KIRBY IS A BITCH@@@@@@@@ THAT IS ALL
The CFD hockey team handed the CPD their a**, 7-1! Just like J-Fed, the cabbage patch kid, is trying to hand all of you yours! Cover each other and stay safe!
Retired 7 years, Thank God!
Forget about WACO, remember the copper they left for dead and retreated like the French always does. Gee...who was in charge of the FBI Chicago Office when that happened? What?!...Noooooooooo.
TO: HEY SCC...Help me out here.
Got into a debate with my partner over DUI. Help us settle this debate. The question is... Can you still be charged with a DUI if you BAC is under a .05? According to IVC...if your BAC is betweeen .05-.08 there is a presumtion that you are not under the influence of alcohol. My partner says that if your BAC is under .05 that the subject has to be released w/o charging. I disagree. It is my understanding that as long as you can show that alcohol impaired someones driving, they still can be charged.
Who is right?
3/18/2008 12:14:00 PM
YOU are.....even if the bac is under the driver may still be charged with the 501(a)(2) DUI-ALCOHOL, as long as the officer can still articulate the impairment observed.....DUI Instructor
RE: Hockey "Game"
CFD 7
CPD 1
The refs were on some BS... there was literally only about 10 mins in the whole game where there wasn't AT LEAST 1 CPD player in the penatly box. It was unbelievable. At least the money went to a good cause.
If we had a new mayor, all of this will be out in the open and all should be taken care of appropriately, ie. investigations, etc.
Why J-Fed put Kirby in as his attorney is beyond me. She is just as much on the hot plate as is everyone else who knew what was going on, but swept it under the rug. This is terrible for our department.
If anyone needs to talk or feels the need to clear the air,thus averting undue anxiety:
United States Attorney
Federal Building
219 South Dearborn Street, Fifth Floor
Chicago, Illinois 60604
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as long as an FBI agent isn't handling the interview or investigation or has a wire directly into Weis' ear. He should haveknown better to promote Kirby....sometimes ya just gotta say NO to da mayor.
It is very,very interesting that Superintendent Phil Cline's General Counsel,Sheri Mecklenburg, resigned and is now positioned at the US Attorney's Office.
Things that make you go Hmmmmmm...
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Yes, and if she is anyway near the investigation it's called CONFLICT OF INTEREST>
very, very good. very good.
stuttering fuck.
If anyone needs to talk or feels the need to clear the air,thus averting undue anxiety:
United States Attorney
Federal Building
219 South Dearborn Street, Fifth Floor
Chicago, Illinois 60604
(312) 353-5300
3/18/2008 10:29:00 AM
funny.
I hope KK from OHare airport is sweating~how do you explain all that overtime when your never at work?!
Anonymous said...
Here is why their are beads of sweat on both their foreheads. The story is that the Abate Incident, the tape of it, was known to IAd BEFORE THE MEDIA GOT IT. The tape was brought to the attention of the Mayoral Press secretary, Jackie Heard who instructed Kirby to Bury it , because it was damaging and inflamatory to the little guy. Kirby complied but the tape surfaced anyway, someone has got to pay opps time for a new Supt. Now we have the latest golden boy, J-Fraud who never answered a call in his life, doesnt know how to handle a domestic orhold a roll call with 25 pissed off police officers. He gets his orders from the hall nothing changes, Kirby rewarded to keep quiet.
3/18/2008 10:04:00 AM
I doubt it,if this were the case Kirby would be the Superintendent not the General Counsel to the Superintendent. You can bet your ass that Terry Ekl will get this out in a deposition in the civil suit.
This story just reeks from every side.
hizzoner da mare said...
Debra Kirby is "very, very good, a very good attorney, a very good public servant, a very good police officer. I interviewed her for superintendent. That's how good she is..."
I can't recall seeing Da Mayor this worked up and worried. What is going on here?
Okay,why would Bob Milan take the lead on making a statement for the Cook County State's Attorney's Office on this? Bob Milan is not the States Attorney nor is he running for election.
Word has it that Dick Devine initially planned to run for one more term as State's Attorney until all of this,pluse John Burge,derailed his plans.
Wasn't Anita Alvarez the head of the Public Integrity Unit at the State's Attorney's Office?
This is some proper hair gel policing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMCU-hKfK8M&NR=1
3/18/2008 12:13:00 PM
YOU ARE RIGHT! HE ACTUALLY STOPPED AND GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND CONFRONTED THE BIG SCARY BLACK GUY!
3/18/2008 09:00:00 AM
Fat Phil was not only an enabler but he was profitting from all of those gifts. One of the more memorable gifts he received was from Detective Kenneth Boudreau,just ask around at 3510.
They have fired PO's who condemned IAD's investigative prowess.
Anonymous said...
If anyone needs to talk or feels the need to clear the air,thus averting undue anxiety:
United States Attorney
Federal Building
219 South Dearborn Street, Fifth Floor
Chicago, Illinois 60604
(312) 353-5300
3/18/2008 10:29:00 AM
Make sure to ask for USA Sheri Mecklenburg,LMAO...
Lets not forget the huge coverup of the CTA Redline homicide by Mass Transit PO,now Det. Alvin Weems. Who was in charge of IAD then???
Anonymous said...
The Sun Times has nothing about this story in todays internet edition. So it must be bad for Daley.
3/18/2008 04:16:00 PM
Very true,this is WAY beyond Frank,Fran and Annie's capabilities. They can't investigate anything,they only print what is handed to them.
Thank God for our Supreme Court Justices and the 2nd Amendment.
To Celebrate their Decision affirming our right as citizens to own firearms to protect ourselves, I am going out and buying a Handgun in the morning to add to my arsenal.
Signed,
A lifetime NRA Member and a CPD PO.
Screw you daley, toddler and blago.
>>>I was a Houston cop before I came here to Chicago PD (HUGE mistake btw). Trust me, CPD is FUBAR.<<<
Amen, but it's our entire city/state. I have 9 years Bus. Mgmt and 1 year Corporate Trainer exp. Ever since I moved back home, my earnings are almost 1/2.
In Chicago, you try to survive, not to enjoy living.
Wouldn't you think that they would have cleaned the minefields out before bringing in the new administration? Superintendent Jody Weis will soon be up to his eyeballs in it and will be an accomplice to the COVERUP.
Oh,that is exactly how they planned it.
Me and a bunch of my co-horts our getting a ragtag group of tuffs together to start patroling the neighborhood high schools to make sure that no more future scientists and doctors are killed. Since I'm ex-cpd, (I got launched over a misunderstanding involving me drinking off duty and punching my wife in the mouth) all me and my posse will be armed with will be walkie-talkies and wiffle bats. While all this corruption is going on, we'll maintain law and order!!!!! Once a cop, always a cop.
"It is very,very interesting that Superintendent Phil Cline's General Counsel,Sheri Mecklenburg, resigned and is now positioned at the US Attorney's Office.
Things that make you go Hmmmmmm...
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Yes, and if she is anyway near the investigation it's called CONFLICT OF INTEREST>"
And that could never happen here! This entire shithole is a conflict of interest - just don't get caught!
NewSlang
Tired of asshat...how about Douchewhistle!
why is whoever in charge of this "war protest" sending us in field uniform with orders to bring bdu's and riot gear
Lean how to read. The order says bring riot gear,period, not BDUs.
You guys think Kirby is sweating? I havent slept in weeks! I'm prety sure that inspector Big Bird saw me drinking off duty at the Play Pen on Mannheim Rd in Stone Park. I'm not sure if he recognized me, but I was wearing my "TRU we rock the DOC" Tshirt while I was negotiating with a strumpet. I hope he didnt see her wearing my star on her licorice thong! (p.s. the ladies are very police friendly wink wink) I'm not sure what Big Bird was doing there becuase he is usually at Bobbys Bar up the road. It's only a matter a of time before IAD is on my case. Maybe I'll bid to the marine unit where that fat bastard wont catch me. I hear he cant swim but sure can float. I'll let you guys know how thing turn out. Until then I'm only going to Scores!
The question is... Can you still be charged with a DUI if you BAC is under a .05?
If you can show impairment you can do a DUI no matter what the BAC is.
just read in the sun times that kirby tried to get finnegan indicted in 03 but charges were rejected. if this is true then how was he left in the unit two more years. just more storytelling by this actor trying to cover her ass. poetic justice-- your next-- pack your bags--
Kirby has always had an attitude problem but she is not the sole reason the IAD is viewed with such disdain.
In my lifetime we had Risley who investigated Superintendent Rodriguez because he felt was unqualified. He denied it but he was pissed that he was passed over for the position twice. In the end his investigations cost the City big money and he ruined his reputation, his integrity and his legacy.
We had Nate "the Skate" Gibson as the ADS of IAD. Gibson was a hater who acould not make a decision and trusted no one to make the decisions for him.
We had a total of seven heads of IAD in seven years prior to Kirby.
They were unable to set any priorities. Why because Hillard was stupid and Cline was at a minimum devious and who knows what else.
J-Fed has the golden opportunity to make us (CPD) the poster child of a perfectly run police dept.Just as LAPD were the golden boys of police departments years ago.If he could keep the stuttering midget at arms length,along with the storefront revs and 2bit alderscum.
First strike against him,there are no more legit supervisors left above LT.
Nolan gave away any chance of legitimate promotions when he gave the city 30% merits when he was FOP president.From this last round of promotions,who was he to ask for recommendations? Their all merits!And they recommended all of their friends and fellow bosses.
I'm retiring this year but I hate to see this dept in the shape its in,at one time we were a class act,second to none.
I don't see that anymore,hopefully I'm wrong and J-fed can turn it around,but I doubt it. :-(
If anybody is interested in purchasing some TRU "We Rock the DOC" T-shirts, then please contact me at the Man's Country Bar in the20th district. I sell them behind the establishment out of the trunk of my yellow, '74 MGB roadster. For only $15 a shirt, or $25for a shirt and hand job, you too can be one of the selected elite TRU warriors. That's right, now you can go to other districts and fuck everything up, give sassy dirty looks to district officers that ask you a question or check to see if your okay on a traffic stop, make really lame dime bag weed pinches and pretend you busted the French Connection. Great for off duty use too when trying to impresses potential suitors or get 8% off at local businesses / drinking establishments for being part of an elite unit. Get em now while the supplies last(tshirts that is). You have the right to remain fabulous!
Supt. Weis is going to be in for a big surprise when trials and litigation start on these cases and Kirby finds herself in a whirlwind trying to justify what she did to these officers.
More to come…
3/18/2008 04:58:00 PM
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Wow!
If you ask me THIS aguy seems to have the REAL INSIDE scoop ond poop on Tobias and Kirby etc.
MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!
But how do you go about kicking the dirt back out from UNDER THE CARPET from which it has been already swept?
anonymous said...
Seriously,
Can we get rid of references to "drinking the kool aid?" It sounds so retarded and I view it as an open invitation to mock and belittle. Belittling the writer is like taking candy from a baby.
P.S. "Asshat" is getting old too. We need some new slang around here.
3/18/2008 05:21:00 PM
How about a ban on "Shitcago", "the shitty" and "Crook County"? When I walk by a corner tavern that reeks of dirty old men and I see them sitting at the bar wearing white socks stretched to their calves, well, that's the kind of humor I expect. Followed, of course, by references to "deeze guys" and "doze guys." Enough already.
This would be a great time for a jib jab video!!
Nobody is sweating here.......If the mayor was untouchable during the hired truck ordeal......this is nothing!
"...every good copper that works in IAD..."
Oxymoron. There are no coppers in IAD. They gave up the right to call themselves coppers when they became Rats.
"...I worked in Confidential Investigations for six years..."
Congratulations. Six years of advancing your police career by being a Rat instead of working for a living.
Was Weis in charge of the Chicago office when Airhardt was shot and the feds went running away? Please confirm if this is true.
How many coppers got railroaded under KIRBY'S watch??? How many investigators moved out and on because they wouldn't SUSTAIN enough cases??
Who's the IAD for IAD?
Inquiring minds want to know.
THER ARE MANY DECIETFUL, BACKSTABBING, FIFTH GRADER SIZED, FIFTH GRADER MENTAILTY, HALF BAKED, BITTER, BITTER, BITTER, LOSERS WHO RANT ON THIS THING.
KIRBY'S CLOUT IS A BOOK, HER OTHER CLOUT IS A CLASSROOM.
SHE HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE 19TH WARD, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS.
FILL A ROOM WITH MEMBERS OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND SHE WILL MOST LIKELY BE THE SMARTEST ONE IN THE ROOM.
YOU SCREAM ABOUT MERIT, WHAT RANK DID SHE MAKE ON MERIT? SHES A FULLBRIGHT SCHOLAR, SHE HAS AMASTERS, A JD WHAT THE HELL ELSE SHOULD SHE DO? JESUS CHRIST GIVE IT A FREAKING BREAK, YA DID YOUR BEST, NOW LET SEE IF SHE FALLS, I BET SHE DOES NOT. SHES A JERK, HUBERMAN'S A JERK, J-FED-JERK, AND ON AND ON AND ON, SAME GUYS, BUT NOT SANE GUYS.
YES I AM A COP, AND I AM PROUD OF THIS DEPARTMENT, YA DON'T LIKE IT DO A LATERAL TO PHEONIX.
Off topic.
Well Jimmy the airports are still there, and your not.
AFter all the sweat on the cover-ups in the CPD................
Just bring on the Olympics! I'm sure there will be enough fraud pre and post Chicago Olympics to fill volumes and volumes of Encyclopedia Brittanica. City Hall at it's best.
Anonymous said...
This is some proper hair gel policing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMCU-hKfK8M&NR=1
3/18/2008 12:13:00 PM
YOU ARE RIGHT! HE ACTUALLY STOPPED AND GOT OUT OF THE CAR AND CONFRONTED THE BIG SCARY BLACK GUY!
3/18/2008 06:39:00 PM
Teddy,you da man dawg.
Off topic...
Anything word about the next sgt's class?
Thanks...
Anonymous said...
Lets not forget the huge coverup of the CTA Redline homicide by Mass Transit PO,now Det. Alvin Weems. Who was in charge of IAD then???
3/18/2008 06:53:00 PM
Wasn't sgt eBay the goof who screwed up the scene? guess that is how he got to the airport, gee who's ass can he kiss now he is gone soon!
Anonymous said...
I hope KK from OHare airport is sweating~how do you explain all that overtime when your never at work?!
3/18/2008 06:21:00 PM
She is gone bye kk see you at your fundraiser!
3/18/2008 08:07:00 PM wrote:
"We had Nate "the Skate" Gibson as the ADS of IAD. Gibson was a hater who could not make a decision and trusted no one to make the decisions for him."
You have every right to your opinion, but I have to speak up for Nate. If he was a hater, he had every opportunitry to show it with my situation, and he did the exact opposite.
Straight-up, I am a M/2 street Supervisor that did not know Nate Gibson from Adam, nor did he know me. I never worked in IAD and I never worked for Nate anywhere in the Department.
As the head of IAD, Nate stood face-to-face in the way of a M/2 Deputy Superintendent trying to jam me for no good reason. Nate even refused his direct order. There were two extremely credible witnesses to the event. Both related to me how Nate took the heat for a white guy he didn't even know.
By happenstance, I had the chance to thank him on his last day with the Department when I ran into him in the elevator at 1121, and thank him I did. He was quite gracious and related that he was glad to have been in the right place at the right time, but he did wonder aloud how I knew, because he never told anybody.
I wish I could tell you more about the circumstances, but I do not want to relate everything here, but Nate was okay, at least he was to me, and he sure did not have to extend himself because I was in the out-crowd, not the in-crowd. Try and find a boss in our organization today, that would do what Nate did for me. Good luck.
The core values will solve all of this,just say police and mean it.
Do they still teach you to be the "Real Police" at the academy?
Anonymous said...
to: The best thing about this whole story is that the one IAD Rat ratted out his IAD Rat boss over a fucking piece of cheese.
These people have so sense of loyalty whatsoever.
3/18/2008 08:48:00 AM
ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU ALL DO HERE ON SCC IS RAT AND RIP ON EACH OTHER. NO BETTER THEM, I SAY..
>>HEY SCC...Help me out here.
Got into a debate with my partner over DUI. Help us settle this debate. The question is... Can you still be charged with a DUI if you BAC is under a .05? According to IVC...if your BAC is betweeen .05-.08 there is a presumtion that you are not under the influence of alcohol. My partner says that if your BAC is under .05 that the subject has to be released w/o charging. I disagree. It is my understanding that as long as you can show that alcohol impaired someones driving, they still can be charged.
Who is right?<<
I'll tell you when I'm (hic) a little sober.
City must pay legal fees in Shakman case
A federal judge ruled Tuesday that the lawyers who have waged a long battle to keep City Hall hiring decisions free of politics are entitled to $3.6 million in fees.
Da Mayor is doing marvellous,more $$$$ for attorneys and more taxes for me and you.
JK you will be coming back to work soon,keep the faith brother. You will probably be a millionaire when you finnish with what IAD and Kirby did to you.
"I worked Confidential Investigations for 6 years with Chris Taliaferro, before Kirby gave me the boot "
Taliafero never worked in Confidential, and there have only been two people kicked out of confidential since Kirby got there, neither were there for 6 years.
Anything else, dumbass?
Anything further on the Grand Jury in Milwaukee,Wisconsin?
Ever wonder why J-Fraud never smiles? He can't ! Seems Steroid boi has had "work" done on his face and if he smiled his face would crack ! YIKES Your new CPD
Kirby is heavy with the 19th Ward. Nuff said. She ani't going nowhere.
YOU are.....even if the bac is under the driver may still be charged with the 501(a)(2) DUI-ALCOHOL, as long as the officer can still articulate the impairment observed.....DUI Instructor
3/18/2008 05:58:00 PM
What DUI instructor? Where? Who makes you qualified to claim status as a DUI instructor? Cannot win a case with a BAC under .08. Why waste your time. DUI's are a waste of time. Of course, if you are off duty then write the bullshit DUI. Times have changed.
Isn't it off that the FBI can't catch that dude from Boston whos on it's 10 most wanted list for like 10 yars?
He's the dude that had most of the Boston FBI on his payroll.
Hmmm, maybe they don't really wanna catch him at all. Then all that dirty laundry would come out.
Been listening to Hussien Obama for 30 min. now and he has said nothing. He did talk about slavery but, he is not decended from slaves. His father was from Africa and his mother was white and from Kansas. He talks about and defends Right Rev. Wright and says that Wright baptised his daughters, married him and his wife and coverted him to Christianity. My question is from WHAT to Christianity. From Judism?, From Buddism? Converted from what? Oh, maybe Islam? Muslim, you know the religon of Osama Bin Laden! The same ones who hate America and are trying to destroy America with anti America retoric like the Right Rev. Wright.
He turned it around and is now blaming the white race for all of America's and all of the world's problems.
When he ended his speech he said nothing, as usual. He got his free political speech at mid-day prime time, keep all of the sob sisters waiting to hang on his every
word (of bullshit).
3/18/2008 10:39:00 AM
Just so you will know, the enslavement of the African Americans did not begin with the South Atlantic System, it existed in Africa’s own native tribes for centuries.
Good job showing how dumb and ignorant you are while trying to slam obama. And believe me are just the type of person he was speaking off asshat!!!
And believe me america was destroyed years before Rev. Jeremiah Wright came along asshole. Hopefully everyone will not have your dumb ass way of thinking and the scary part is that you are probably someone i walk past on a daily basis.
There are 400 judges in Crook County if Kirby is related to two of them how can anyone receive JUSTICE in the courts????
The machine control of the court system is more dangerous than anything.
3/18/2008 04:58:00 PM
I don't know who you are, but you're full of shit. Chris never worked confidential, he's been in general investigations since he got there. So there is no way you worked with him for six years, unless you were in hq.
Confidential is not at hq, but at another location. It is not unusual even now for confidential to be working on something that general knows nothing about.....such as the SOS case.
So....mr/ms full of shit troll....everything you say is bullshit. If you want to write a fantasy yarn, try another subject, because you suck at this one.
Isn't Leroy Martin's son a Sgt. in General Investigations at IAD?
Sgt. Micheal Schmidt is the retiree who went to the Inspector General's Office.
Anything further on the Grand Jury in Milwaukee,Wisconsin?
3/18/2008 10:52:00 PM
The word on Milwaukee GJ is that LeBuffon went to visit that city
10 years ago and his mind never came back, now he likes spreading rumors about his former co-workers.
KIRBY'S CLOUT IS A BOOK, HER OTHER CLOUT IS A CLASSROOM
19th ward connection
He uncle jack the ass do nothin hurley. stay off our blog, your niece is a do nothing like your sister,(disability pension) and you were riding on the coat tails of alderman Jerimiah Joyce and alderman Mike Sheehan.
ure brother may have been the police, but you were a wagon man merit dick assigned to personnel and because of your clout you only did the back ground checks on the white applicants.
Your niece is hooked up thru the 19th ward, you beg and scrounge for rugaui how else did you get away with owning a saloon and liquor store Uncle Jack when employed by the CPD?
Hey uncle how did your wife get a job working for the City at McCormick place. No politics right.
She is a political hack liability like you the police impersonator you were..from the 19th ward political tree
What a bunch of asshats! Kirby was a hillard appointee.
FYI
Sgts Class postponed indefinately!!! J-fed worried about the "merit" promotees being too obvious, still trying to figure out how to get the "meritorious" made under the radar.
The former IAD guy is right about at least one thing: a couple of us are taking KIrby and Company to court. She wanted to show a bunch of 30 pendings and had some punks working for her that helped all the way! Oh dont worry -Sarge-you are gonna be named as well. Very soon !!! Malicious investigation sustained based on no credible evidence. So numbers can be padded....To be continued...
Anonymous said...
Lets not forget the huge coverup of the CTA Redline homicide by Mass Transit PO,now Det. Alvin Weems. Who was in charge of IAD then???
3/18/2008 06:53:00 PM
Yeah! and who was the sgt that screwed the scene up: buffo #1622
"...every good copper that works in IAD..."
Oxymoron. There are no coppers in IAD. They gave up the right to call themselves coppers when they became Rats.
Fuck you callin us Rats, I could probably run circles around your ass in doing police work.
3/18 (The first of two) 10:09 PM:
Don't get us started about the allegedly stellar qualifications of Ronald Huberman and Debra Kirby.
For openers, we can produce at least one veteran street copper who has amassed over a thousand Part I felony arrests, earned the admiration and respect of colleagues and has an I.Q. score almost off the chart.
This officer's CPD accomplishments would leave Huberman and Kirby as woefully inadequate. Unlike these charlatans, this officer disdained clout and political favoritism as a matter of pride and integrity.
Forget about a resume reflecting the politics of the U.S. State Dept. (which administers the Fulbright program), Quantico and NUTI, all of which can be granted to less than deserving candidates with political clout.
If you're going to tout the worthiness of Kirby and Huberman, let's hear about their accomplishments as street coppers, verifiable I.Q. test scores and other objective criteria directly related to the duties of an outstanding police officer. Why should either Huberman or Kirby command any respect?
Otherwise, choose silence. If your rhetoric is not the boring drivel of a shameless sycophant, it may well be the "anonymous", self-serving ramblings of either Kirby or Huberman.
Officer in IAD, Once in those ranks, not the police. Sorry.
The unfortunate incident with JA happened in 2001. Our new boss was not in Chicago.
Kirb is the baby jesus of the 19th ward. Pulleeessse. Taken care of the day she got out of the academy.
She did whatever fil told her, just like the rest of them. Fil didn't let anyone make a decision without him. He was the most controlling micromanager of all time.
Daley doth protest too much while the FBI's Grant did the unprecedented by immediately denying that Kirby is a target. And all of this occurred within hours of the Tribune's front page coverage concerning Kirby.
It appears that the Trib struck a very raw nerve and the city is now circling the wagons.
Imagine our ecstasy if Patrick Fitzgerald dragged the conspiring asses of Daley, Kirby, Radke, et al. before a federal grand jury.
Sneed said DK is tiding up her resume. What is she going to be next, the states attorney?
Anonymous said...
I was a Houston cop before I came here to Chicago PD (HUGE mistake btw). Trust me, CPD is FUBAR. There are some great coppers here but the organization (leadership) is incompetent to the point of criminal negligence.
3/18/2008 04:52:00 PM
Hey asshole... one of my very good friends is a Houston cop. They have their problems too!!! And dont think were the only big city with this much BS. LAPD had the Rampart issue and the NYPD has had the numerous problems too!!! The grass isnt always greener.
The Rev. Michael Pfleger, a South Side community leader, said the problems run deep and the department's words sound right. But action has to follow.
"I admire the goal. I just think we have to do a lot of work to get to the goal,'' said Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina's Catholic Church. "I think there is a very small group of corrupt police, but there is a much larger group of disrespectful police. . . . There has been a great wedge put between police and citizens. And I am not saying there [are] not disrespectful citizens too. But police are called to be professional people. They have to hold the standard.''
The values statement will be posted around the department and will become a part of the training program for recruits.
I guess ol boy felt leftout of Moperahs attention.
A man in his 20s is dead after being Tasered by police after resisting arrest Tuesday night on the Near West Side.
As part of the probe, the IPRA will take witness statements, examine evidence, and attend the autopsy.
DID OPS ATTEND AUTOPSIES? THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS,TOO MUCH CSI.
YOU are.....even if the bac is under the driver may still be charged with the 501(a)(2) DUI-ALCOHOL, as long as the officer can still articulate the impairment observed.....DUI Instructor
3/18/2008 05:58:00 PM
What DUI instructor? Where? Who makes you qualified to claim status as a DUI instructor? Cannot win a case with a BAC under .08. Why waste your time. DUI's are a waste of time. Of course, if you are off duty then write the bullshit DUI. Times have changed.
3/18/2008 10:56:00 PM
asshole. You can win a case if it is under .08 but the thing is the ASA doesn't want to be bothered by it. Another thing asshat or toilet wand whatever is the word of the day they are not a waste of time. If you let that DUI driver go just remember he may be the one that t-bones a PO down the road. If you don't drive drunk than you don't have anything to worry right punk. DUI writer. Stay safe and watch out for those 501 drivers.
DUI writer
The Keesing Bandit says---
"...IPRA will attend the autopsy..."
Five bucks says she pukes.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
"...Isn't that all you do here at SCC is rat and rip on each other...
No better than them, I say..."
Huge difference. I can write here all day and no one will get fired. Can you in IAD say that?
"...Fuck you calling us Rats...I could probably run circles around you doing police work..."
Then why don't you? Maybe you find that police officers are a easier target for you? Maybe because they don't shoot back (with the exception of the F/1 dirty desk dolly in 002 who made RF run like a little girl when she shot at him at 80th and Western a number of years ago)?
Save your fantastic police work for the real bad guys.
I know a lot of us (especially me) have been ripping on the IAD guys. How about a couple of serious questions?
Do you get credit for clearing police officers? If you clear too many, do you get in trouble with your boss? Do you get cases kicked back, when you clear someone, with the notation "Make this a Rule Two Violation"?
Blue DeVille said...
Anonymous said...
Lets not forget the huge coverup of the CTA Redline homicide by Mass Transit PO,now Det. Alvin Weems. Who was in charge of IAD then???
3/18/2008 06:53:00 PM
Yeah! and who was the sgt that screwed the scene up: buffo #1622
3/19/2008 12:52:00 AM
is that the same buffo from midway that has been screwing over everyone, but makes $$$$$$$$$
Kirby is a 19th Ward political hack.Her boyfriend works for Mayor Daley.Thats why Da Mare was sooo agitated and angry...The so-called news media ought to investigate the clout connections of Tobias,Jake Blake,Jimmy Elredge,Finnigan,Sgt E Olsen.The clout connections are the Rosetta Stone of the SOS Scandal.
J-Fudd's alleged transgression occurred when he was the Assistant Deputy Director of the FBI's IAD. It was a whistleblower case.Just google Robert Wright,FBI.It had a Chicago connection to terrorist money-laundering,Osama Binladen.
Nate Gibson's reputation was not very good.
He was despised in Area 2 when he was the boss.
When he went to the IAD a large group of individuals either retired or transferred rather than work for him. It was probably Hillard's first big mistake in making him the ADS there but he was highly thought of by Cline who encouraged Hillard to place him in that assignment.
Debra Kirby looks like absolute dogshit in the photo in the Sun Times. I predict that J-Fed will be drinking like the rest of us after a year of the CPD.
Lt Carroll can out sweat Kirby.
Can those unimaginative goofs who continuously use the word "asshat" please try to use some new descriptive language. Asshat is just so juvenile, idiotic and just plain dumb sounding.
KIRBY'S CLOUT IS A BOOK, HER OTHER CLOUT IS A CLASSROOM.
SHE HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE 19TH WARD, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS.
FILL A ROOM WITH MEMBERS OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND SHE WILL MOST LIKELY BE THE SMARTEST ONE IN THE ROOM.
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Whoa, I demand prove of the Debra's "Fullbright." Second, if she were as smart as you claim, perhaps she would have gone to a more prestigious graduate school and graduated at the top of her class. She then could have worked as an attorney making far more than she makes today. Why didn't the "very good" attorney take that route? Our Department is full of "attorneys" just like Kirby.
Finally, I have a couple of friends on the Department that attended the University of Chicago. If they were in the same room as Debra, your girl would be #3. Get over yourself, suckhole.
there are some VERY VERY (few) good cops in IAD. I know one guy we were in the academy together. He is a former fed, and I will say this he is a sharp cop and would not jam anybody just for numbers. So do not fall the BS on this site. It will be ok DM, never change what you stand for.
still trying to figure out how to get the "meritorious" made under the radar.
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You can't, plain and simple. It screams clout and fraud and JFed now has the opportunity to put it to an end. Just promote off the list and figure out another "merit" system on the next test. Only 5% merit and then the names are pulled out randomly. The 5% merit has to be a combo of clout and no clout (i.e. just plain, hard-working street cop - no office fillers). That will at least give some no-clout guy/gal a chance.
How about all merits must have had at least 5 years street work, and X - amount of arrests. Their police paper work is retrievable, look at that and see how much police work they have done and review their proficiency'cause when they make merit sgt, dic or lt., they must go out on the street and supervise and actually have to know what they are doing.
Another suggestion: all merit must be declared so everyone knows. He/she MUST stay in patrol over 5 years. That's the trade-off. No merit moves to a special unit after doing their 6 month stint on the street. Maybe the merit clouts will study harder to get better placement on the test.
As far as the test goes, absolutely NO table-full of exempts get to "review" the test. This is another way "their" people know what to study. Are you listening Supt Weis?
Sneed said DK is tiding up her resume. What is she going to be next, the states attorney?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Please, the last time she stepped foot into a court room was when she wore a blue shirt and had her ticket book with her.
35th street i observed two high ranking officers talking about "DECEPTION" in their conversation regarding the way a certain demoted commander J.g.C. hit the medical the same day he was sent to 021. almost sounds like a DAWG.
In defense of Kirby and the IAD it must be pointed out that they do not investigate incidents were the "use of force" is present.
Abbate, "Jefferson Tap", and the Weems' shooting case all involved the "use of force" and should of been investigated by OPS. When the final investigation arrives at the Office of the Superintendent the final determination of the investigation is made by the Superintendent.
If Cline wanted to protect individuals that is the time it occurred.
The SOS investigation was the sole responsibility of Kirby and the IAD. It appears she failed to do her job and allowed the number of crimes to increase greatly.
If this is true then she will have liability when the civil suits go to trial. It will be interesting to review the depositions that will be taken as these suits progress.
And I am not saying there [are] not disrespectful citizens too.
++++++including yourself, father flamer.
Anonymous said...
Lets not forget the huge coverup of the CTA Redline homicide by Mass Transit PO,now Det. Alvin Weems. Who was in charge of IAD then???
3/18/2008 06:53:00 PM
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That indeed was a cover-up. Didn't anyone have the brains to think that there is a camera at that ghetto stop? Weems worked for Cline in 11 in the 80's and 90's. Cline made sure through Kirby that it's all legit (the shooting) Then Cline merits Weems to dic. Then the video appears and a different story comes out. A classic cover-up via Cline to Kirby. Amazing stupidity to say the least. Even more amazing is Cline retires with a fat pension and Kirby jumps up a notch via her 19th ward connection. Jody please, don't you get it???? Everyone else does.
Anonymous said...
"...every good copper that works D..."
Oxymoron. There are no coppers in IAD. They gave up the right to call themselves coppers when they became Rats.
Fuck you callin us Rats, I could probably run circles around your ass in doing police work.
3/19/2008 12:58:00 AM
With all due respect...there are some good guys in IAD. A few, but there are some. BUT...you need juice to have them do your investigation. Believe me!!
3/18/2008 10:38:00 AM
Anonymous said...
The FBI has a long standing policy of letting CPD bosses slip thru the cracks while they go after the easier, less connected little guy. The working patrolman has better and longer lasting news copy and cannot ask favors of the editors to lessen the press play.
Anyone who has had long career with the city has seen this. The fact thet DC and MT are protected is nothing new. We even had a boss who wore a wire several years ago, the feds forgave him and let him go onto another clout city job.
After all, don't forget the feds usually coverup their own and let them "retire" rather than prosecute.
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You might want to talk to Clarence Braasch, Robert Fisher, Carl Dobrich, Bill Hanhardt and several others about this drivel you are spewing. You could look up the names if you are unfamiliar.
Anonymous said...
I was a Houston cop before I came here to Chicago PD (HUGE mistake btw). Trust me, CPD is FUBAR. There are some great coppers here but the organization (leadership) is incompetent to the point of criminal negligence.
3/18/2008 04:52:00 PM
Hey asshole... one of my very good friends is a Houston cop. They have their problems too!!! And dont think were the only big city with this much BS. LAPD had the Rampart issue and the NYPD has had the numerous problems too!!! The grass isnt always greener.
3/19/2008 03:21:00 AM
Another one. Does it ever stop? The first post didn't say Houston doesn't have problems. Nor did it say we are the worsty city in US. Read the comment thoroughly before yelling.
Leadership in cpd has been
criminally negligent for 40 years. Obviously so, we now have the fbi as a superintendent.
Kirby went to school why she was supposed on duty. As a DETECTIVE, she was the SECOND secretary for the SUMMER MOBILE UNIT. She was rarely seen. Don't you wish you could go to school and not show up for work and still get paid. Fuck Her I hope she gets what's coming to her. SHE HAS NEVER BEEN THE POLICE AND NEVER DID ANYTHING TO HELP A FELLOW COP.
Anonymous said...
"...I worked in Confidential Investigations for six years..."
Congratulations. Six years of advancing your police career by being a Rat instead of working for a living.
3/18/2008 09:46:00 PM
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Well what should those assigned there do? Find the SOS badguys, or not rat them out because they are cops? You can't have it both ways.
Seriously,
Can we get rid of references to "drinking the kool aid?" It sounds so retarded and I view it as an open invitation to mock and belittle. Belittling the writer is like taking candy from a baby.
P.S. "Asshat" is getting old too. We need some new slang around here.
3/18/2008 05:21:00 PM
quit drinking the kool aid asshat
The debate if you blow under .08 you can not be charged with DUI. If you are and they charge you with it. Can you say lawsuit. Illinois defines DUI and any intoxicating compunds like drugs and stuff. You can not be charged with it unless they find it in your system. If you get charged with it, then it will be thrown out at court.
10:09 PM (1 of 3)
Speaking of fifth graders, your post suggests that the average 10-year-old would put you to shame in a spelling bee.
Could you be another "Fullbright (sic) scholar"?
No more Kool-Aid for you. Try a cup of hemlock instead.
fucking piece of cheese.
These people have so sense of loyalty whatsoever.
3/18/2008 08:48:00 AM
ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU ALL DO HERE ON SCC IS RAT AND RIP ON EACH OTHER. NO BETTER THEM, I SAY..
3/18/2008 10:45:00 PM
Amen Brother!! Thsi site is rat fest 101
be the one that t-bones a PO down the road. If you don't drive drunk than you don't have anything to worry right punk. DUI writer. Stay safe and watch out for those 501 drivers.
DUI writer
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Go 501 yourself! gaywad
Rev. Pfleger: The are also a lot of corrupt reverends amd a lot of disrespectful reverends.......did he forget them in is statement.
You can win a case if it is under .08 but the thing is the ASA doesn't want to be bothered by it. Another thing asshat or toilet wand whatever is the word of the day they are not a waste of time.
Why the names. Why fight the ASA? Even academy instructor said they are not wrth it. No case under .08!
OFF TOPIC: Rumor has it that Lt. Mancha from SWAT was dumped cause he wouldn't play politics. He stuck to his guns when the bosses tried to get their people in. He swore it would be legit and it cost him his spot. What a shame. Typical bosses throwing around their weight. What happened to CPD going straight. New regime same as old regime.
can I just throw away the t-shirt and keep the hand job?
to the question of..can you be charged with a DUI if your BAC is under .05...
I say no.
Just refer to 625ILCS5/11-501.2(b)(2).
You cannot be charged with a DUI.
Dumbass KIRBY-the real police? She couldn't see a scandel if it slapped her in her mannish face. Just a dumb bitch who the lil' stuttering (Daley) prick is trying to appease and hide so she won't tell all.
YOU are.....even if the bac is under the driver may still be charged with the 501(a)(2) DUI-ALCOHOL, as long as the officer can still articulate the impairment observed.....DUI Instructor
3/18/2008 05:58:00 PM
Well then, it would be safe to say that one could never ever take the chance of having alcohol on their breath in a vehicle? Correct or no?
Guys and Gals dont forget to email this guy from the tribune: DHeinzmann@tribune.com
He responds back to you-any more info on IAD ro Kirby or anything that you feel needs to come out! Wont ask your name!
3/19 5:42AM
Hey timmy, lay off the roids,take up drinking and lighten up, ya blimp!!!!!!!!
"...every good copper that works in IAD..."
Oxymoron. There are no coppers in IAD. They gave up the right to call themselves coppers when they became Rats.
Fuck you callin us Rats, I could probably run circles around your ass in doing police work.
3/19/2008 12:58:00 AM
In fact, if I didn't have to brush my long whiskers and clean my hairless scaly tail, I'd jump into my circular maze and show your dumb ass how fast I get the cheese at the end. Gotta go, late for an experiment.
Sgt. Rattus Norvegicus
(Detailed IAD)
Just so you will know, the enslavement of the African Americans did not begin with the South Atlantic System, it existed in Africa’s own native tribes for centuries.
Good job showing how dumb and ignorant you are while trying to slam obama. And believe me are just the type of person he was speaking off asshat!!!
And believe me america was destroyed years before Rev. Jeremiah Wright came along asshole. Hopefully everyone will not have your dumb ass way of thinking and the scary part is that you are probably someone i walk past on a daily basis.
3/18/2008 11:02:00 PM
So your argument is that because Hussein's black ancestors were enslaved by his black ancestors, its the fault of me and my white ancestors and he is right to lay the blame on us. I'll hand it to you, that is one typical liberal argument.
He is the type of person Hussein was trying to slam? What kind is that, one that sees through his rhetoric that tries to please all and say nothing?
America was destroyed before Wright came along. So that makes it okay for him to decry racism, while he supports and institutionalizes racism within his own "church". Yeah, O....K. No everyone doesn't have this guys way of thinking, but I sure do.
Daley said that Kirby is a very, very good police officer.
Care to explain, you stuttering prick?
I didn't think so.
The Chicago Police Department IAD Division requested felony charges for Finnegan and other SOS members reguarding a gun case from way back. The States Attorney's Office rejected those charges.
It's funny how all of these "cops" rub their hands and sneer when Kirby is being bashed in the papers with no evidence she did anything wrong.
Just like the ghetto thugs' response to a Police shooting. You "cops" join the bashing bandwagon perpetuating lies and rumors because you love getting back at the man.
You make me sick.
To answer the DUI question, at 0.08 the presumption is that you are under the influence. 0.05 to 0.079 is a grey area. 0.04 it is presumed one is not under the influence.
It would seem if you had an 0.04 breath test, then the case has to be dismissed. An ASA told me long ago any presumption can be argued, even the presumption of 0.08.
Truth is, unless you're falling down and a total idiot, an 0.04 case will be tossed. In between results depends on the visual.
Best advice, never have more than two if you're driving, and if you get stiff, take a cab or call a friend. Better safe than a reckless homicide/agg. dui.
In fact, if I didn't have to brush my long whiskers and clean my hairless scaly tail, I'd jump into my circular maze and show your dumb ass how fast I get the cheese at the end. Gotta go, late for an experiment.
Sgt. Rattus Norvegicus
(Detailed IAD)
>>>>>>>>>>too funny!
How are exempts like Debra Kirby EXEMPT for the Rules & Regulations,particularly Rule 14?
If I were Debra Kirby I would just come clean with it all and let Fat Phil and cronies hang. Debra used to be quite attractive,this whole mess is taking a significant toll upon her health,appearance,body and general wellbeing. I hope that she does the right thing.
Does the alcohol prohibition pertain to upper echelon exempt department members?
I hear there is a NEW Department General Order 08-001-666
It states that the only acceptable beverage to be served at any CPD function,official or unofficial, is KOOLAID.
Whoever breaks this story open is going to get a Pulitzer Prize.
I was a Houston cop before I came here to Chicago PD (HUGE mistake btw). Trust me, CPD is FUBAR. There are some great coppers here but the organization (leadership) is incompetent to the point of criminal negligence.
3/18/2008 04:52:00 PM
Thanks for identifying yourself Mike Keefe - You are a psycho and yes, we wish you had stayed in Houston as well. Man are you Stoooopid!
To: DHinzmann@shittypaper.com
Why don't you go fuck yourself.
Anonymous said...
35th street i observed two high ranking officers talking about "DECEPTION" in their conversation regarding the way a certain demoted commander J.g.C. hit the medical the same day he was sent to 021. almost sounds like a DAWG.
3/19/2008 12:33:00 PM
Look at his boy roy "Roy Roy" Buffo he put at the airport, just like carroll a dawg ass who does nothing but undermine the bosses over him!
"...Fuck you calling us Rats...I could probably run circles around you doing police work..."
Then why don't you? Maybe you find that police officers are a easier target for you? Maybe because they don't shoot back (with the exception of the F/1 dirty desk dolly in 002 who made RF run like a little girl when she shot at him at 80th and Western a number of years ago)?
Save your fantastic police work for the real bad guys.
You seem to think that everyone that works in IAD is out to get the working coppers. The truth is, the majority of the personnel that work in IAD are the exact opposite. Many of the cases I investigated were bullshit, but some warranted some sort of disciplinary action, there is no way around that. Everytime I brought an officer in on a complaint I gave him/her the benefit of the doubt. If they fucked up, they fucked up, and they would have to face disciplinary action. If my investigation found that the officers did nothing wrong, I made sure they were cleared. Blame Finnegan and company for the sorry state we're in, not Kirby, or the presonnel in IAD. Someone has to do the job. What if IPRA was investigating all police misconduct....then we would be in some real trouble.
Exempt Deb gets her beer on as often as the new super pumps iron. Always has. She absolutely went to law school during working hours and has been carried in cushy spots all her years.
Next, where did Macha end up and exactly who dumped him?
So your argument is that because Hussein's black ancestors were enslaved by his black ancestors, its the fault of me and my white ancestors and he is right to lay the blame on us. I'll hand it to you, that is one typical liberal argument.
He is the type of person Hussein was trying to slam? What kind is that, one that sees through his rhetoric that tries to please all and say nothing?
America was destroyed before Wright came along. So that makes it okay for him to decry racism, while he supports and institutionalizes racism within his own "church". Yeah, O....K. No everyone doesn't have this guys way of thinking, but I sure do.
3/19/2008 06:40:00 PM
now your ignorance is showing because no where in my statement did i say because obama's ancestors were black that it is the fault of you or your white ancestors nor did he say those words. So i am not sure what pipe you are smoking because you must be hallucinating.
I am sure he doesn't have to please you or anyone else because either you are gonna vote for the man or you are not so save that shit for someone else. if you had any sense you would realize that rev. wright's denomination is primarily white and let me guess you got caught up in the media hype of the snipets(and yes they were snipets) of speeches he made years ago. But you i am assuming a P.O. who knows first hand of the deceptive and under handed way of the media. And then you want to point out what he teaches his church when you had a well known preacher Rev. Frank Schaeffer(who is white i may add) who preached and taught about overthrowing the U.S. government and who glorified civil disobidence in the U.S., and not only that was invited to the White house by not one, but three U.S. presidents for dinner after he gave that speech. Man please you need to get your shit together.
Hey Kirby-I hear someone is checking your school records and seeing times and dates of attendance! WOnder if A&A Sheets are gonna show you were working and going to school too???
Maybe its your time to pay the piper !
Anonymous said...
I was a Houston cop before I came here to Chicago PD (HUGE mistake btw). Trust me, CPD is FUBAR. There are some great coppers here but the organization (leadership) is incompetent to the point of criminal negligence.
3/18/2008 04:52:00 PM
Thanks for identifying yourself Mike Keefe - You are a psycho and yes, we wish you had stayed in Houston as well. Man are you Stoooopid!
3/19/2008 10:33:00 PM
Fuck You Coward!!!
You are the rat for spelling it out for the whole world,Mike was conveying a heartfelt message which is more than likely very true.
Mike Keefe is a sqaured away,knowledgeable and competent copper. He also knows firearms and how to shoot.
Anonymous said...
I know a lot of us (especially me) have been ripping on the IAD guys. How about a couple of serious questions?
Do you get credit for clearing police officers? If you clear too many, do you get in trouble with your boss? Do you get cases kicked back, when you clear someone, with the notation "Make this a Rule Two Violation"?
3/19/2008 07:47:00 AM
These are all extremely good questions and the FOP should be the ones posing these questions in writing to the city.
Anonymous said...
The best thing about this whole story is that the one IAD Rat ratted out his IAD Rat boss over a fucking piece of cheese.
These people have so sense of loyalty whatsoever.
3/18/2008 08:48:00 AM
Funny and very true. Some of them would tell on their Grandma to keep their M-F,0900-1700 spot.
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