Lieutenants? Get Your Resumes
Running the captain numbers, we have something like 65 spots filled and there are around 6 lieutenants trained up to be captains. That still leaves a minimum of 4 captains short and there should be a mandatory retirement or two this year.
Should J-Fed keep the captain rank (and according to various advisers we've heard quoted, that isn't even guaranteed) the full strength number is 75.
Start updating those SES packages.
Should J-Fed keep the captain rank (and according to various advisers we've heard quoted, that isn't even guaranteed) the full strength number is 75.
Start updating those SES packages.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
62 Comments:
WHATS SES PACKAGE?
They are budgeted for 78. They should make some extras so that they can detail them to the districts when all of these old donkeys go on their extended medicals before they retire. There are at least 3 that I can think of off the top of my head that currently fit that description.
Where is the proper place to add in my Resume that I have had Breast Implants, and I look good in my 80/20's.
just fyi there are 8 capt s in waiting. according to j fed none of them are guaranteed the spot. it's going to be a long summer for those sitting lt's, gosh we might have to answer a call for supervisor or something.. Promote sgt's, det's and higher p/os put the promotion of lt's and capt's on the back burner for now...
As a lieutenant, I firmly believe the rank of captain should be retained. That being said, I also believe the rank of captain should be a test based career service rank.
Trust me, there is nothing worse than a watch run by two lieutenants who are not on the same page. There needs to be a deliniation of rank.
Need I write my resume on the backs of $100 dollar bills?
Supt. Weis.
Check out the sergeants resumes. You have some undiscovered gems awaiting your perusal.
Why do we even need Captains or inspectors?!
"Trust me, there is nothing worse than a watch run by two lieutenants who are not on the same page. There needs to be a deliniation of rank.
3/23/2008 01:13:00 AM"
But @ the end of the year you both walk away w/ 6figures in your Bank Account. Boo Hoo to you, Go SUCK ONE ASSJAG!!
Anonymous said...
As a lieutenant, I firmly believe the rank of captain should be retained. That being said, I also believe the rank of captain should be a test based career service rank.
Trust me, there is nothing worse than a watch run by two lieutenants who are not on the same page. There needs to be a deliniation of rank.
3/23/2008 01:13:00 AM
RIGHT ON BROTHER,100% CORRECT!!!
Any truth to the rumor that the cargo pants, baseball hats and black vest carrier are going to be out soon?
What is the point? It's still going to be clout. The Lt's that have the juice are in the units and will just be made Exempt. The Capt. rank is consolation for those who are heavy but not heavy enough. The Lt's that have been running the watches and deserve the bump are the ones that won't even have their packet opened much less considered. Instead they will get a new boss that is useless but the Lt.will continue to do all the work. Except you guys will bitch about them on the blog because you don't realize they are being forced to be the Capt's hatchet man so he can be loved. Bring back the test with NO meritorious and get a real result.
Trust me, there is nothing worse than a watch run by two lieutenants who are not on the same page. There needs to be a deliniation of rank.....................PROBABLY THE MOST INTELLIGENT QUOTE I HAVE EVER READ ON THIS BLOG. IT'S LINE WATCHING JECKYL AND HYDE. YOU NEED A CAPTAIN TO SET THE OVERALL TONE FOR A WATCH, DESPITE INDIVIDUAL QUIRKS AND PREFERENCES. CAPT'S SHOULD BE A TESTABLE POSITION, WITH MERIT "POINTS" ADDED FOR CAREER ACHIEVEMENTS............
I fully agree with the Sgt who posted that Capts are necessary...chain of command on this job is a must, anyone with a military backround knows this. Nothing is worse than a "rule by committee" atmosphere. Now, if that Capt is an unqualified clout baby hack, well hey, THAT'S THE CHICAGO WAY BABY!
Why do we need Captains. You obviously weren't on the job 10 years ago when we had two Lts. running the watches, each with their own rules and each with their own favorites. It was a mess, you need someone in charge, no Captains is a terrible idea that failed before.
Anonymous said...
Why do we even need Captains or inspectors?!
3/23/2008 02:29:00 AM
I agree waste of money, we could use the money better elsewhere, such as on new cars!
Waste of money if you ask me.
You have to have Captains because there will be non-stop arguments between the Lieutenants as to who stays inside and who stays outside.
Sounds like a child's kind of argument, but that is exactly what went on when the city tried to eliminate the Capt. rank in the 1990's, before they started the SES style captains (Senior Executive Service---a quasi exempt rank, with some union protections, no test, submit package which resembles a lengthy resume).
One person must be in charge and making the decisions. When you have two Lieutenants, they eventually argue, mother-f*&k each other, and nothing gets done because they udercut each other.
Its all a matter of suction.
Who needs more of these clowns anyway, we're Waaaay too top-heavy with brass now. Of course, the mayor, and his cronies, whose pockets and political coffers get lined partially this way, will argue the point. Only more P.O's and Investigative Services personnel are needed, as well as better benefits, equipment, a better schedule, and much more consideration for the front-line troops working the worst crime-infested areas of the city. Time for southside and westside cops to be given Way More consideration for everything compared to those hiding out for many years in Slow, not much police work to do districts and Areas of the CPD. Why should a copper working a beat, tac, gangs, etc; in a busy district not be given more consideration for promotion than say, a P.O. working the LOOP Window Detail in 001 for the past decade or more?
You need Capts. to keep down the bickering of the Lts. on the watches as to WHO IS IN CHARGE!
We tried it once before, and it didn't work, which is why it was brought back; everyone in the single bar "pack" wanted to be the alpha wolf!
Trust me, there is nothing worse than a watch run by two lieutenants who are not on the same page. There needs to be a deliniation of rank.
3/23/2008 01:13:00 AM
Or a unqualified captain running a watch. Micromanager captains without street experience. Captains promoted without requirements or screening except for clout. Look at sceond watch in 017 and 006.
WHY WE NEED CAPTAINS:
PERFECT EXAMPLE:
3RD WATCH - 012TH DISTRICT
LT. WINSBERG
LT. CAMACHO
LT. BIGGANE
ALL HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDA AND CAN'T MAKE A DECISION. WINSBERG DOES TRY, CAMACHO IS TRECHEROUS AND NOT TO BE TRUSTED AND BIGGANE IS A BARBIE DOLL LT. WHO HID AT HEADQUARTERS HER WHOLE CAREER.
Anonymous said...
Where is the proper place to add in my Resume that I have had Breast Implants, and I look good in my 80/20's.
3/23/2008 12:45:00 AM
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Me too!
I got my man boob job also, I think its sexy and maybe THEY will too!
Ta Ta!
anonymous said...
As a lieutenant, I firmly believe the rank of captain should be retained. That being said, I also believe the rank of captain should be a test based career service rank.
Trust me, there is nothing worse than a watch run by two lieutenants who are not on the same page. There needs to be a deliniation of rank.
3/23/2008 01:13:00 AM
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There WAS a career service rank of Captain. Those career service rank captains SOLD OUT! They sold out their rank and sold out every captain who would hold that rank after them for a paltry payoff of $17,000. for that, the City got to have their way with the rank of Captain. That was one further step in the Richard M. Daley quest to politicize the police department. That lead to further steps at doing to the police department what he did to the City with the HDO and leads us directly to the mess we at CPD find our department in today.
Lest anyone throw blame where it does not belong, look first at the real culprit who has fucked this police department royally: Mayor Richard M. Daley.
None other.
Not Leroy Martin, not Matt Rodriguez, not Terry Hillard, Not Phil Cline and not Jody Weiss. Just Richard M. Daley, all by himself. He fucked this thing up so bad he had to go to the Feds to try to get it unfucked.
Please remember that next election time because only about 22% of registered voters even bothered to get their asses down to a polling place last time.
Say this every night in the mirror before you go to bed: Who fucked up the Chicago Police Department?
Richard M. Daley did, that's who.
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I was looking at the city budget for 2008 and it looks like the are short about 130 Sgt's and 20 Lt's. If you look at the city budget it breaks down the city manpower numbers by unit. For example the patrol division has a budget for something like 898 Sgt's. If you run a title code for 9171 on the computer at work you can see we only have 1227 for the whole department. It looks like the city is trying to save some money. What happens if these positions are not filled this year? Would they be lost in the 2009 budget?
As a lieutenant, I firmly believe the rank of captain should be retained. That being said, I also believe the rank of captain should be a test based career service rank.
Trust me, there is nothing worse than a watch run by two lieutenants who are not on the same page. There needs to be a deliniation of rank.
3/23/2008 01:13:00 AM
100% correct but if you have 2 lt's the district commander needs to assign one as the watch commander and back up that person in the way they run the watch....
For change sake get rid of the ranks of Captain and Commander and replace them with:
Sturmbannfuhrer and Obersturmbannfuhrer
The troops will know we're serious.
I am a Sgt in a district, working a watch. It is an absolute must to have one person in charge. This is, as stated based on a military model. A tone is set, decisions are made and the officers know what to do and how to do it. The constant change which takes place when it's two LT's (if they don't see eye to eye) is horrible, and confusing to the troops. And am I the only one who feels that the watch secretary has way too much power? And if that power is misused, it can do more to ruin a watch than any Capt or LT?
just wondering.
Get your resumes in now, Commander spot(not gonna be an ADS spot anymore)will be opening up at academy in a couple of weeks, MT is gonna be provided an honorable way out.
You got it all wrong. Captain is not the rank that we don't need, it's the Lt. that is not needed. What does a Lt. do that the Sgt. hasn't already done? Who really runs the street? It's not the Lt., it's the Sgt. The Sgt. can and should confer with the Capt. over what he wants done and how the watch should be run. Then the Sgt. can implement the Capts. instructions. The rank of Lt. is a waste of money and manpower.
MT is gonna be provided an honorable way out.
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how?
Hell look at the Captain on midnights in 016. Comes in when he wants! A real moron!
Captains probably this week....
Why provide a honorable way out for MT?He conducted himself in a dishonorable way when he commanded SOS.He will probably be a unindicted co-conspirator.
promote sgt galan! to lt.
that guy is great!
Anonymous said...
You got it all wrong. Captain is not the rank that we don't need, it's the Lt. that is not needed. What does a Lt. do that the Sgt. hasn't already done? Who really runs the street? It's not the Lt., it's the Sgt. The Sgt. can and should confer with the Capt. over what he wants done and how the watch should be run. Then the Sgt. can implement the Capts. instructions. The rank of Lt. is a waste of money and manpower.
3/23/2008 09:36:00 PM
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And when the Captain is on furlough and RDOs? Also, remember less of any of the ranks means less chance for a patrolman to be promoted.You are using typical CPD bitter, short term logic. They pull Capt.s from Lt. and Lt. from Sgt. and Sgt. from P.O. Making any less of any of them hurts the guy at the bottom's chance at promotion.
KMA SGT said...
Supt. Weis.
Check out the sergeants resumes. You have some undiscovered gems awaiting your perusal.
Supt. Weis Please Please check out the outstanding 3rd watch 012th Dist Sgts.
Sgt NICK never never works a full tour. Goes down to do paper work on the desk but really goes home after he works just 3 hours. He also lets his favorite car go home early because one of the girls father is a capt.
Sgt. STEVE can never get to work on time always 1 to 2 hours late.
Sgt. Greg also likes to go home two hours early.
You work in 012 you belong to the KMA club.
Many of us are sick of you 3 clowns hope the new D/C dumps you all.
As to the 3 Lt. situation in 012 it is now horrible. The first one is on furlough and the other two don't have a fucking clue. Camacho thinks she is in charge and has experience but she is wrong. She is a s dumb as a box of rocks.
I work in 012 and I should be the Capt. because I have a really good resume from all my years downtown.
Chinaman Chinaman
"You got it all wrong. Captain is not the rank that we don't need, it's the Lt. that is not needed. What does a Lt. do that the Sgt. hasn't already done? Who really runs the street? It's not the Lt., it's the Sgt. The Sgt. can and should confer with the Capt. over what he wants done and how the watch should be run. Then the Sgt. can implement the Capts. instructions. The rank of Lt. is a waste of money and manpower.
3/23/2008 09:36:00 PM"
A Rose By Any Other Name.......
We in 014 have a Sgt. detailed to the detached services who is assigned to the Park District to write parking tickets, no men whatsoever to supervise,gets all the overtime he wants. $100,000 a rear down the drain
It is going to be announced that training will be overseen from the top, hence an ADS will not be required at E&TD (which will also be renamed). A commander will be in charge. MT will be offered the command of the reformed School Unit.
if the capt's promotions were legit (?), then it would be all good....but, what are the standards for capt.? have they been published, and are the current captains the best of the best (just asking)...if J-Fed does the Captains like he did the exempts, well,...............hahahaha
Somebody in 012 has way too much time on their hands if they know who comes and goes and when. Maybe if they were actually doing some police work and not whining that everyone picks on them they wouldn't have the time to clock the Sgt's. Or maybe it's another third watch Sgt that doesn't have the balls to stand up for himself or his people that is doing all the bitching.
I agree,there is a bunch of crying pussies in 012th dist. Crying about the Lt's, the Sgts. You guys have it too good and don't know it and way too much time on your hands. Wait until you get some jag. We are all already laughing at you pussies. Keep the comments going, can't wait to hear more. Na na na na, ha ha ha.
WHY WE NEED CAPTAINS:
PERFECT EXAMPLE:
3RD WATCH - 012TH DISTRICT
LT. WINSBERG
LT. CAMACHO
LT. BIGGANE
ALL HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDA AND CAN'T MAKE A DECISION. WINSBERG DOES TRY, CAMACHO IS TRECHEROUS AND NOT TO BE TRUSTED AND BIGGANE IS A BARBIE DOLL LT. WHO HID AT HEADQUARTERS HER WHOLE CAREER.
3/23/2008 04:43:00
camacho, why is she still in patrol? when she made sgt and went to 001 she told the capt,old school joe mullen, that she was to good for patrol and would be back in a unit very soon...She told the capt. i wrote most of the orders and you cant tell me anything... well good ole joe told her you may of wrote them because you were in r&d but you are clueless and i'll help your ignorant ass out of here a.s.a.p!!!
don't know winsberg, but made lt. with biggane she actually seems like a decent person and not the type to say i'm the boss deal with it!! as said camacho not to be trusted...
camacho, why is she still in patrol? when she made sgt and went to 001 she told the capt,old school joe mullen, that she was to good for patrol and would be back in a unit very soon...She told the capt. i wrote most of the orders and you cant tell me anything... well good ole joe told her you may of wrote them because you were in r&d but you are clueless and i'll help your ignorant ass out of here a.s.a.p!!!
3/25/2008 04:13:00 PM
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Yeah, thanks Capt. Joe!
They sent her @ss to the Academy and all she could do was f^ck w/people.
She was well known for her "sock inspections!"
""Need I write my resume on the backs of $100 dollar bills?""
I think Greenwood already beat you to that one if I remember correctly...
Camacho was out of patrol within months of her promotion. Got dumped back when her clout Dana even got sick of her act. Now she is trying to run things again at the expense of the watch. If she just minded her own business and let things alone everything would be coool.
3/24/2008 07:27:00 AM
The little crybaby from 012 is nothing more then a little sissie.
I'll bet you are some clown who has been in 012 for less then 2years.
I can't believe any one would have a bad thing to say about any boss in 012. The 012 is a great place to work. The bosses are not trying to hurt any one.
Not to mention, if you don't like it you little crybaby sissie, why don't you do us all a favor and bid out you prick.
WHY WE NEED CAPTAINS:
PERFECT EXAMPLE:
3RD WATCH - 012TH DISTRICT
LT. WINSBERG
LT. CAMACHO
LT. BIGGANE
ALL HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDA AND CAN'T MAKE A DECISION. WINSBERG DOES TRY, CAMACHO IS TRECHEROUS AND NOT TO BE TRUSTED AND BIGGANE IS A BARBIE DOLL LT. WHO HID AT HEADQUARTERS HER WHOLE CAREER.
Who ever had the balls to post the above listed bullshit is nothing more then a little crybaby sissie.
You sissie prick why don't you bid out and do us all a favor.
Oh, I forgot the little prick probably doesn't have enough time to bid out.
You my friend are a complete sissie prick. Who should not even be on this job.
For you whining coppers in 012, "Shut your pie holes!" This is not the forum to be expressing such thoughts. By the way, thanks for shedding light on a miniscule matter. You think you are whistle blowing but in fact you are shooting yourself and the rest of us in the foot. Thanks BF (buddy f*****r).
Your comment is based on total BULLSHIT and vicious LIES, if a newly appointed Sgt was to address a Capt in the manor you have indicated, I assure you he/she would be written up for insubordination and 30 pending. Instead, the Sgt gets sent to a nice spot at the Academy. I call your BULLSHIT just what it is, a VICIOUS LIE. It seems to me that there are a lot of people on this blog who want to make sure that certain people (Sgt/Lt/Capt/Exempts) do not get promoted or get demoted. You are showing your teeth and they are pretty ugly when you snarl; your jealousy shows brightly through those canines.
Shame on the newly appointed Lt. who compliments a new Lt he/she has just met at the last Lt promotional class and degrades another one. You dare count yourself as an upstanding newly appointed Lt that our troops should respect based on your bashing of another Lt. The whole department knows how your class earned those bars, most of you will never earn most people’s respect and you’ll have to spend the rest of your careers listing to others sneer about you, and after your comments, rightfully so earned. It just goes to show the caliber of our newly appointed Lts. And why our promotional process desperately needs to change.
After reading all of your comments I must wonder how you treat the public when you treat one another in this matter by making up vicious lies. I am truly disgusted and embarrassed to say I’m part of this department. The more BULLSHIT you post on this blog about people, the more respect I earn for those that are trashed. These people continue to hold their heads up high, come to work everyday knowing you are trashing them and trying to destroy their careers out of petty jealously. These are the people who earn my respect for their bravery and fortitude, not you.
A Capt. who is ashamed and embarrassed of the 012th Dist.
"Hell look at the Captain on midnights in 016. Comes in when he wants! A real moron!"
Actually-that position was already taken by the clown on midnights in 20-who is a total union buster.
Many are commenting that Camacho should not be trusted. As a supervisor I would not want to be trusted either. A supervisor should be doing the right thing, not covering up for his subordinates. When a supervisor allows himself to be drawn into his officers web of trust, it’s usually because there is something unethical going on and they need the supervisor to cover up for their wrong behavior. Once a supervisor looks the other way or steps through those doors with his subordinates there is no turning back, he just gets drawn deeper and deeper into the mayhem, lies, and unethical behavior.
Supervisors should be held to a higher standard and demand that his officers do the right thing. That is a mark of a good supervisor; a supervisor keeps his officers and himself out of trouble by always doing the right thing.
There seems to be some very shameless people in our department, including a newly promoted lieutenant who agrees that Camacho should not be trusted. Well I wish you the best of luck. Don’t expect me and others to come to your benefit or send you a post card when you end up fired and in jail with your crew because you took care of them, because you were trusted. That kind of trust is jail bait.
to 11;18 -- Nice try Fran, nice way to get a positive comment in the blog about yourself.. Too late though, this is a week old, no one is reading it now, they've moved on to new topics. Bottom line is that you are a snake who will middle anyone at anytime.
12 was a great place to work - no more. Too much estrogen running the show. Captain K was the best - he will be missed!
"As a supervisor I would not want to be trusted either. A supervisor should be doing the right thing, not covering up for his subordinates."
You are a complete and total waste of a promotion. Police officers should be able to trust their bosses AND know that their supervisors will be doing the right thing. They are not mutually exculsive ideals.
"demand that his officers do the right thing"
The officers usually do the right thing-sometimes with a little guidance- but whether or not you 'demand' it. Sure- once a supervisor you have some power but you have no leadership ability if you have to 'demand' officers to do what they should in the first place.
Look up mentor in the dictionary please. If you can't do it- then turn in your stripes or bar(s).
Dear Jody
Me and my buddy are sgts who's commander just got dumped. We are very talented at ass kissing and brown nosing. Should are expertise be needed we are offering our services to you.
use your imagination as to who we are
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