More Stripped?
We heard that some people got stripped for alleged "offenses" that not only occurred in excess of 7 years ago (the alleged time restriction for CR's kept available for use), but for some CR's that have been adjudicated, accepted, signed on and suspension time served. And now they're going to be re-tried? Or re-investigated?
One of these cases is rumored to be 11 years old. Another slightly longer than that.
Anyone have actual cases?
One of these cases is rumored to be 11 years old. Another slightly longer than that.
Anyone have actual cases?
Labels: media, silly people
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
81 Comments:
Disturbing if true, shatters the contract, but that is nothing new for the city of Chicago. This jagoff city breaks the contract at will, probably because in most cases nothing is ever done about it. FOP can now sit back on thier fat asses and continue to do nothing now that the election is final.
Looks like the Tribune finally reported on a story mentioned here last week.
Veteran Chicago cop in trouble after being stopped in Kentucky
Tribune staff report
11:14 PM CDT, March 24, 2008
A veteran Chicago police officer was stripped of his police powers after he was stopped last week by Kentucky State Police in the town of London, authorities said.
A spokesman for the Kentucky State Police wouldn't say why the officer was stopped, because the matter was under investigation.
The Drug Enforcement Administration is assisting in the investigation, but a DEA spokesman referred questions about the investigation to state police.
The Police Department's Internal Affairs Division is investigating the 13-year veteran, a Chicago police spokeswoman said.
Where in the contract does it say they can reopen CR's that have been ruled on and closed?
Oh wait, we don't have a current contract.
FOP, care to weigh in on this seeing as we re-elected you?
From a good source the Mayor looks at this site once in awhile and it makes him crazy that he cannot stop it / control it. The Olympics are coming to Chi Town the only exception is if we have a very violent period for the next 17 months when the committe votes on it. We have Rio on our heels but because of the violence in Rio they are out except if the Chicago returns to the days of the early 90s. It could happen. Cameras in cars morale at all time low coppers will not go the extra mile to look for the guns being transported. Poor economy more stick ups/ carjackings more homicides. Poor economy more domestics more homicides. Hispanic gang wars several homicides. 48 Hr rule/ witness free to leave means more repeat offenders released by States Attorneys. Short manpower less police more opportunity to get away with crime. No OT no added incentive. No contract less incentive. A long hot summer could mean bye bye Olympics!
Baseless Rumors!
So Cook County Circuit Clerk Dorothy Brown gets a 10 man security detail including a former PO named Melvin Darby, on the taxpayer's dime.
Along with a County owned luxury SUV which some chauffeur's her to and from work every day.
Her defense? She only makes $110,000 a year.
Oh, and she says she is "law enforcement."
I am serious. The video is on Fox Chicago's website if you do not believe me.
This, the same day we find out Toddler Stroger fires the Cook County Chief Financial Officer and gives the job to.....tah dah...a relative!
He promtes his cousin to CFO of Cook County and pays her $159,868. Good to know the highest taxes in the nation are being well spent.
Hey US Attorney Fitzgerald, when you are done indicting Chicago politicians, can you start with these bums in Cook County?
That'd be great.
there is a tac sgt in 024 who had an 11 year old CR reopened
Maybe they ought to deal with the ones stripped from the SOS Scandal before they go back a generation.
Something doesn't sound right here. Even if it was a felony, the statue of limitations is up on criminal charging unless these guys committed murder or treason.
FOP should step in here. Do we all have to worry now about cases that were closed? If the IAD or OPS did such a shit job then, how can you trust whatever they have in regards to evidence from the past?
Funny, a bad guy can't be charged twice under the double jeopardy rule but once again the cops can have closed cases reopened and used against them.
I say there will be a few very costly lawsuits in regards to these actions.
this is bullshit and if true another reason if your young enough to resign and join a progressive dept.! This dept is getting to be more of a shit hole on a daily basis! If you have college leave!
Off subject, but did you see the list of Sgts selected for the Executive Management Class. Everyone heavier than the next, and I don't think any of them made it off the test all merit. And coppers out there think things are changing for the better, yeah right.
Holy Inquisition Batman!!!
Simultaneously they are attacking on all fronts. The Witch Hunters have collected hay and wood to start the fires. Prepare yourself. SCC stop wearying about making a fashion statement they are coming for you. They want to get rid of all of us and begin hiring a whole new Department. It is part of the master's plan.
Bullshit. More "IAD is the devil" propaganda.
sorry SCC. I don't hold much confidence in this story you guys are reporting. Even a three year wonder lawyer in felony review would not go after a case or cases this old. The exception is/are the snake lawyers hitting on the alleged Burge misconduct, and we all know they are in it to line their pockets with city money.
Ok FOP, its time to take a stand! The witch-hunt must end........
Looks like the Tribune finally reported on a story mentioned here last week.
Veteran Chicago cop in trouble after being stopped in Kentucky
Tribune staff report
11:14 PM CDT, March 24, 2008
A veteran Chicago police officer was stripped of his police powers after he was stopped last week by Kentucky State Police in the town of London, authorities said.
A spokesman for the Kentucky State Police wouldn't say why the officer was stopped, because the matter was under investigation.
The Drug Enforcement Administration is assisting in the investigation, but a DEA spokesman referred questions about the investigation to state police.
The Police Department's Internal Affairs Division is investigating the 13-year veteran, a Chicago police spokeswoman said.
3/24/2008 11:40:00 PM
is this the guy with the mini mullet??
Fahey and O'Brien were murdered in 1982. Burge, O'Hara and Yucaitis were suspended in 1992. Burge was fired in '93 and O'Hara and Yucaitis, both union memebers, were suspended for 15 months in '93. The appellate court upheld all three actions.
At OEC a few years ago under Hubermans's adminstration, he allowed his ADD M Keating to reopen boxes of concluded, investigated cr's cases that were closed. She went over them all, reassigned the numbers, overrode the rulings made by our investigators (retired Cpd Sgts), and doled out ridiculous suspension time, i.e. 1 day turned into 5 days. Our union IBEW local 21 once again sat on their hands and let this snowball to catastrophic levels for some employees. Management nodded in agreement that this was acceptable behavior.
If you are one of the reopened cases and have any doubt or lack of faith in your Brotherhood, get yourself a good lawyer.
Peace
YOU INVESTIGATOR ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE FULL PICTURE.
J FED HAS ACCESS TO ALL THE CPD RECORDS!
THE DEPARTMENT KEEPS THE OLDDDD FILES
(7 YEARS AND OLDER) ON ZIP DRIVE NOT IN THE DEPARTMENT COMPUTER.
JFED HAS HIS LACKEYS COMBING FILE THAT THE FEDS WERE NERVOUS ABOUT UNDER PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP.
THINK ABOUT IT DICK SUPS, SCENE PICTURE, OPS AND IAD STATEMENTS, LAWSUIT TRANSCRIPTS EVEN YOUR MEDICAL HISTORY.
LET ME GUESS YOU BOYS THINK THEY TROW ALL THAT CRAP AWAY AND FORGET ABOUT THE FUC UPZ.
ONE EXAMPLE THE BURGE CASE REMEMBER THEY PULLED UP HIS CR HISTORY IN HIS CASE.
Veteran Chicago cop in trouble after being stopped in Kentucky
Tribune staff report
11:14 PM CDT, March 24, 2008
A veteran Chicago police officer was stripped of his police powers after he was stopped last week by Kentucky State Police in the town of London, authorities said.
A spokesman for the Kentucky State Police wouldn't say why the officer was stopped, because the matter was under investigation.
The Drug Enforcement Administration is assisting in the investigation, but a DEA spokesman referred questions about the investigation to state police.
The Police Department's Internal Affairs Division is investigating the 13-year veteran, a Chicago police spokeswoman said.
3/24/2008 11:40:00 PM
is this the guy with the mini mullet??
3/25/2008 09:03:00 AM
Last week someone was saying how great a guy this copper was, my thoughts is if DEA is involved there more to this then a simple lock box in a car,,,but mean while he's a great guy and we should stand by him to the end
Sergeants class coming out this week, class of 50.
No detective training. Academy for 7 weeks and straight to the district.
WEIS wants them ready for Summer details.
Any info to confirm this?
how the hell cann you reopen a case where suspension time has already been served, if this is the case i hope someone sues the hell out of the department, theyre playing with peoples lives and families that is not right! If time was served then leave it alone!
is this the guy with the mini mullet??
3/25/2008 09:03:00 AM
Ha Ha too funny thats my guy jeff g.we had him pegged from day one don't think for a min.Dea wasn't following him for a while(2 yrs.?)
Just watched the Dorothy Brown video mentioned above, holy shit, what a bumbling baboon. Either she is nervous about the investigation or she is the most moronic uneducated elected official in the county (next to Stoger Jr., that is).
Holy fuck, who voted for this idiot???
I feel dumber after having watched that clip. I thought it was a skit from Reno 911 or something.
All I can say is that the inmate in County sending the death threats must have been forced to have a 5 min conversation with Dumbass Dorothy. Any judge would rule that justifiable homicide on his part.
I hope that don't come afer me for taking payoffs on traffic stops 30 years ago. I'm retired now so scratch my balls mayor. Don't worry, I knew your father and he got his cut too.
The City can and DOES whatever it wants. It's attitude is "Fuck you! Sue to get you job back." Even WHEN someone knowingly violates the contract/law/whatever NOTHING happens to them, we as taxpayers pay the penalty for their arrogance. I have won many a Grievance and nothing ever happens to the boss who knowingly violated it.
Which Sgt. in 024 would that be?
Just remember there is no statute of limitations on "official misconduct" which is how they get us on everything
OCD lisc unit..........
Lt. E.G., for Christ sake give yourself, your people, something to do! We have a new command in place. Have some pride you stinking filthy bitch. Take a shower and clean your office and your car you cabbage eating pig.
Why did carroll take the keys for both cars and the cars had to be towed and rekeyed but yet donnie denies he had keyes what a couple of jagoffs! Lets hope the new commnader realizes that donnie and carroll fucked him over and dumps donnies ass to midnights!
3/20/2008 10:38:00 PM
Commander Tommy A.....dump all of carroll's ASSociates before they get over on you!
Question for 3/24/2008 11:56:00 PM
Do you think Dorothy Brown just copied the threatening letter Eddie Burke updates every couple of years to justify his entourage?
Just wondering. What a piece of shit (fill in the blank with any of these asshats who milk the taxpayer every chance they get).
Something doesn't sound right here. Even if it was a felony, the statue of limitations is up on criminal charging unless these guys committed murder or treason.
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Uh, or official misconduct.
No statute of limitations for that.
Why don't we just replace Dorthy Brown with a rubber stamp that says "certified"?
There is going to be a number of members of a team stripped from 017 shortly. It involves a bad money beef and doesn't look good.
If there was a Sgt class coming out, people would be getting the calls at home to accept the position...that has not happened, so NO CLASS of sgts.
For the last time, whomever you are....LET THE AIRPORT GO!!! No one knows or cares who Caroll is or was. You are obviouosly the most bitter little person on this department. Move on my man......Please....you make yourself out to be an ASS HAT!!!!
Something doesn't sound right here. Even if it was a felony, the statue of limitations is up on criminal charging unless these guys committed murder or treason.
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Uh, or official misconduct.
No statute of limitations for that.
Yes there is a statute of limitations for Official Misconduct. Read your ILCS before you play lawyer.
Just think about it for a second. Even if it was all the State had, don't you think they would go after Burge for Official Misconduct if no SOL applied. Just to show there outrage. Yes they would, the problem is that a SOL does exist.
But if you want to read it for yourself ask the WC for an ILCS book and read it yourself. Every SOL and the applied extension is listed.
Anonymous said...
Uh, or official misconduct.
No statute of limitations for that.
3/25/2008 05:20:00 PM
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Uh, check the statute again. Official Misconduct has a statute of limitations. Burge would have been charged if it weren't the limitation.
20 plus years of being the police and now
1. punitive damages on dpw
2. call state police for proof of no foi on guns.
3. cameras evey f ing where saying you violated bros civil rights
4. no felony approval re agg dui, no ins without statement re ins
5. supreme court rulings re foot chases dna to Chicago, need totality of circumstances. gang member, convicted felon, dope dealer, murderer, child sex offender.............. do not matter, no probable cause. ASAs that love to run a P.O. ragged and for what you ask..... to let the bad guy remain free because he has civil rights. RUN EVERY LAW ABIDING CITIZEN as far from Chicago as you can. Olympics are a joke..... attended the ghetto run dog show and it was a miserable experience/disaster. Cash only entry, 1 person working coat check, one hour and 55 min to order and pay for a lunch. This city has gone to the dogssssssss.
Anonymous said...
Something doesn't sound right here. Even if it was a felony, the statue of limitations is up on criminal charging unless these guys committed murder or treason.
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Uh, or official misconduct.
No statute of limitations for that.
3/25/2008 05:20:00 PM
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Official Misconduct must be substantiated with a illegal act. So you are telling me that they are going to charge you with a crime that’s 11 years old that the dept. didn't go after then?
WOW... that is pushing the envelope!
Get a good lawyer and counter-sue.Dont depend on FOP.They were paid off by the city a long time ago..I will bet that none of these re-opened cases involve clouted police officers.
To 3/25/2008 07:12:00 AM
I didn't expect the Spanish Inquistion!
Something doesn't sound right here. Even if it was a felony, the statue of limitations is up on criminal charging unless these guys committed murder or treason.
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Uh, or official misconduct.
No statute of limitations for that.
3/25/2008 05:20:00 PM
Don't forget Forgery!!
Which Sgt. in 024 would that be?
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Probably the "Wild One". Billy doesn't have 11 years. Willie and Hines? No.
"Off subject, but did you see the list of Sgts selected for the Executive Management Class. Everyone heavier than the next, and I don't think any of them made it off the test all merit. And coppers out there think things are changing for the better, yeah right."
I saw a number of well respected Sgts. on that list, many from a number of specialized units, but I believe 6 of the 22 (or 24) came from Districts too. Some are likely MERIT SGTS. Doesn't make them bad. Obviously, the good work some of them did when they got promoted continues to be done by some of the nominees. Don't hate because you didn't get there!
Maybe you need to hire a writer to compile your resume.
OFF TOPIC
D.C. Police Launch Gun Search Program
i guess other cities are stealing r gun team ideas. D.C. IS STATRING A PROGRAM WHERE OFFICER WILL SEARCH WHOLE BLOCKS FOR WEAPONS WITHOUT WARRANTS.
GET READY FOR JFED TO COME LOOKING FOR THOSE ASSAULT RIFLES YOU HUNTER HAVE.
Anonymous said...
To 3/25/2008 07:12:00 AM
I didn't expect the Spanish Inquistion!
3/25/2008 07:59:00 PM
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NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!
"Obviously, the good work some of them did when they got promoted continues to be done by some of the nominees. Don't hate because you didn't get there!"
Spoken like a true Self entitled Merit PUNK. One could hear you now,
"I'm here because of my stellar& acute knowledge of Policework."
Nice try, You're there because you're suck ass& the embodiment of the Company Pimp. Nothing More.
For the last time, whomever you are....LET THE AIRPORT GO!!! No one knows or cares who Caroll is or was. You are obviouosly the most bitter little person on this department. Move on my man......Please....you make yourself out to be an ASS HAT!!!!
3/25/2008 06:39:00 PM
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I'm tired of this hand j*b too. I posted something regarding this on another thread and he started calling me Timmy or something like that. This goof is in major need of medications and a tinfoil hat.
There is no statute of limitations or prosecution. You are not being criminally charged. You are being administratively investigated, punished, seperated. Now go put some more hair gel on and stop talking all this smack.
Something doesn't sound right here. Even if it was a felony, the statue of limitations is up on criminal charging unless these guys committed murder or treason.
Funny, a bad guy can't be charged twice under the double jeopardy rule but once again the cops can have closed cases reopened and used against them.
I say there will be a few very costly lawsuits in regards to these actions.
I hate to piss on the parade, but Double Jeopardy and Statutes of Limitations don't really apply to the Department opening up old disciplinary cases.
The only brakes on this train are 1) in your latest contract; 2) possibly the contract in force at the time of the prior disciplinary hearing; and as a last resort 3) Federal Fair Labor laws.
Also, for open CRs that were never dealt with you could argue that since the Department knew about them and knowingly failed to act that they cannot now act - there is a word for this but then you might think I was a lawyer.
But don't waste time attacking each other over whether or not there is a statute of limitations on Official Misconduct (3 years from act + up to 3 additional years)
Now go get your contract!
Any truth to the rumor that bald D.P. from narcotics, formerly of 022 was stripped? Any details?
I saw a number of well respected Sgts. on that list, many from a number of specialized units, but I believe 6 of the 22 (or 24) came from Districts too. Some are likely MERIT SGTS. Doesn't make them bad. Obviously, the good work some of them did when they got promoted continues to be done by some of the nominees. Don't hate because you didn't get there!
Maybe you need to hire a writer to compile your resume.
yeah I hope you don't honestly believe that... it was clout all the way.
Anonymous said...
OCD lisc unit..........
Lt. E.G., for Christ sake give yourself, your people, something to do! We have a new command in place. Have some pride you stinking filthy bitch. Take a shower and clean your office and your car you cabbage eating pig.
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM
Thats just wrong... what has this job/dept become?? you guys are a freakin embarrassment! The Lt. mentioned above, is by far one of the best this dept has ever seen! She would go to the end of the earth to help another cop. you guys are fucked up!
Let the man rant. Carroll screwed over so many people for no reason that you can post from here to eternity and not get even.
Anonymous said...
Which Sgt. in 024 would that be?
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Probably the "Wild One". Billy doesn't have 11 years. Willie and Hines? No.
3/25/2008 09:12:00 PM
Wild One ???? There is only 3 and it wasn't me....
Well, what the hell is next?
Open old CR's, you can't drink, smoke or eat even in your own home.
Does that mean the next thing is to turn your home into a gym, eat grass, get rid of your wife and kids, & no sex (that might be dirty)? You'll always be wondering if BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING.
Remember the new rule: EAT GRASS (NOT THE TYPE THAT MAKES YOU HIGH, THE KIND DOGS CRAP ON), AND EXERCISE. NO OTHER ACTIVITIES ARE ALLOWED.
OT. Executive Sergeant Training: Well before you make dumb comments you should know what you are talking about. I worked with one of those sgts. as a PO and when he made sgt. Great cop and a great boss. He made sgt. off the list and will make lt. off the list. Very intelligent and street smart.
Anonymous said...
is this the guy with the mini mullet??
3/25/2008 09:03:00 AM
Ha Ha too funny thats my guy jeff g.we had him pegged from day one don't think for a min.Dea wasn't following him for a while(2 yrs.?)
3/25/2008 11:39:00 AM
London,KY big weed growing area.
To the response to 3/26/08, 02:43 - To be in a unit, you could be heavy. 6 of the Sgt's came from districts. How could 6 Patrol Division Street Sgt's be clout heavy? If any of them were heavy, they wouldn't be working in a district. We are happy to see a couple of fellow district grunts on the list. Never thought they would want something like this.
Anonymous said...
Let the man rant. Carroll screwed over so many people for no reason that you can post from here to eternity and not get even.
3/26/2008 07:11:00 AM
True! He has done the deed! Karma is a bitch!
Anonymous said...
OCD lisc unit..........
Lt. E.G., for Christ sake give yourself, your people, something to do! We have a new command in place. Have some pride you stinking filthy bitch. Take a shower and clean your office and your car you cabbage eating pig.
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM
Thats just wrong... what has this job/dept become?? you guys are a freakin embarrassment! The Lt. mentioned above, is by far one of the best this dept has ever seen! She would go to the end of the earth to help another cop. you guys are fucked up!
3/26/2008 03:19:00 AM
You are being scarastic I hope. EvilG is condesending, vindicate, stupid and lazy; which cost the city 1.6 million. Seen her laughing in the hall about it the one time she showed up for work;; before new command arrived.
"...but then you might think I was a lawyer."
You aren't? A catholic priest then??
you dope-pushing po's are the ones destroying people's lives. CW remember? Corrupt cops stalking decent citizens because they are idiot enough to sell drugs with a bunch of rapist, pedophile, cowardly woman beaters. Then complain the black people are ungrateful and half of them are criminals and just protect yourself, your family and your friends. That's fine, I suggest you find some money for them and a car or cars since they seem to think decent black people who are not married to keystone, are supposed to buy them things and fulfill their sick, depraved sex fantasies. Confess you corrupt cop then the old cr's won't have to be re-opened.
Anonymous said...
Which Sgt. in 024 would that be?
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Probably the "Wild One". Billy doesn't have 11 years. Willie and Hines? No.
3/25/2008 09:12:00 PM
Wild One ???? There is only 3 and it wasn't me....
3/26/2008 08:08:00 AM
i dont work in 024 or do i know what sgt it is but thats just what i heard through the grapevine
FYI, dont be a player hater.......actually some of those sergeants actually made it off the list. Get over your worthlessness.
Lt EG would step on anyone atnytime if it would help her get promoted. Don;t kid yourself by thinking anything different.
No statute of limitations with official misconduct? Good...then the state can go after richie & co, blagboy, alderscumbags, judges, asa's too.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OCD lisc unit..........
Lt. E.G., for Christ sake give yourself, your people, something to do! We have a new command in place. Have some pride you stinking filthy bitch. Take a shower and clean your office and your car you cabbage eating pig.
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM
Thats just wrong... what has this job/dept become?? you guys are a freakin embarrassment! The Lt. mentioned above, is by far one of the best this dept has ever seen! She would go to the end of the earth to help another cop. you guys are fucked up!
3/26/2008 03:19:00 AM
LT EG has issues. Just because she is big, and slipping on hygiene, leave her alone. Lt EG always takes care of her men, especially young men. Buy her a kit with soap and shower stuff. She will appreciate it.
To:you dope-pushing po's are the ones destroying people's lives. CW remember? Corrupt cops stalking decent citizens because they are idiot enough to sell drugs
-please put your thoughts together prior to typing...you made absolutely no sense.
"There is going to be a number of members of a team stripped from 017 shortly. It involves a bad money beef and doesn't look good."
Don't worry... When Cmdr. Mueller throws you under a bus he make sure it's quick and painless.
you dope-pushing po's are the ones destroying people's lives. CW remember? Corrupt cops stalking decent citizens because they are idiot enough to sell drugs with a bunch of rapist, pedophile, cowardly woman beaters. Then complain the black people are ungrateful and half of them are criminals and just protect yourself, your family and your friends. That's fine, I suggest you find some money for them and a car or cars since they seem to think decent black people who are not married to keystone, are supposed to buy them things and fulfill their sick, depraved sex fantasies. Confess you corrupt cop then the old cr's won't have to be re-opened.
3/26/2008 01:47:00 PM
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somebody using the computer at the public li-berry?
"How could 6 Patrol Division Street Sgt's be clout heavy?"
Just watch the next couple of transfer orders and the next few lts classes- two and two equals.....
"Just because she is big, and slipping on hygiene"
If she's that big there might be a medical issue,biavetes, or something else that might be effecting her....
It wont be the last!!!
Hey Terry T. in 021 they just might go after you for that crime you committed on the job a few years ago, arrested, tried, but not convicted.
Now back on the job, I guess you're not out of the woods yet.
Good luck.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Which Sgt. in 024 would that be?
Sgt. S.R. in 024
anonymous said...
you dope-pushing po's are the ones destroying people's lives. CW remember? Corrupt cops stalking decent citizens because they are idiot enough to sell drugs with a bunch of rapist, pedophile, cowardly woman beaters. Then complain the black people are ungrateful and half of them are criminals and just protect yourself, your family and your friends. That's fine, I suggest you find some money for them and a car or cars since they seem to think decent black people who are not married to keystone, are supposed to buy them things and fulfill their sick, depraved sex fantasies. Confess you corrupt cop then the old cr's won't have to be re-opened.
3/26/2008 01:47:00 PM
OR DO YOU?
Po stopped in Kentucky,callback or no pay status?
Sgt. S.R. in 024
3/27/2008 05:33:00 PM
Yeah but wil he get fired?
Sgt. S.R. in 024
3/27/2008 05:33:00 PM
Yeah but wil he get fired?
3/29/2008 02:46:00 PM
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