Wednesday, April 30, 2008

J-Fed's Initial Proposal

This is the information we were talking about last night. It comes to us second hand, but the source is 100% trustworthy. If they say it happened, it happened. It seems that J-Fed was having a meeting with an individual who shall remain nameless, but this individual wears more than two bars on their collar. During the conversation, J-Fed told this person that it was his intent to get rid of the Round Table process completely.

Now we know that earlier this year or late last year, the Cook County State's Attorney was looking to pull out of the Round Table process because of the political heat. Some reporter and his tame professor were insisting that the Round Table was nothing more than a cover up of all the involved parties and in the midst of a hotly contested State's Attorney race, even the hint of a scandal could sink a campaign. Besides, it's easier to say that the State's Attorney's office might be prosecuting a police shooting one day, so it didn't make sense for them to be there in case it compromised the investigation, regardless of the fact that if at any time there was an allegation of criminal wrongdoing, the Round Table process (Administrative) would stop and another investigation (Criminal) would begin.

The reason that J-Fed wanted to do away with the Round Table?
  • All Officers involved in a shooting were to be indicted the following day by a Grand Jury.
You read that correctly. J-Fed wanted officers indicted. We don't know if this was to circumvent Administrative investigations. We don't know if this was to abrogate contractual protections. We don't know if this was to be some half-assed attempt to remove CPD entirely from the investigatory process of police shootings.

But if this doesn't tell you exactly what type of Department the mayor wants and exactly what type of Department that J-Fed is attempting to give him, we don't know how to make it any clearer.

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229 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you do even 1% more than what is required of you anymore you are a moron. Do not look for sympathy from your fellow officers when you get jammed up anymore for doing anything more than the minimum. If you cannot read the writing on the wall or you say oh well I have to be the "real" police you are on your own. The day may come again to be the police but now is not the time.

4/30/2008 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CONTRACT!!! UNION???

4/30/2008 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a point of clarification: Are you saying that J-Fed wants officers INDICTED the very next day, or does he want to have shootings presented to the grand jury?

It seems like there is no difference between the two, but they are 2 very different things.

It's my understanding that all police shootings in NYC are presented to the grand jury - most of which never result in formal indictments.

But you are certainly correct - it is really all about ducking public scrutiny.

4/30/2008 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Makes sense. It gives more crediblity to the officer if the grand jury finds him acting within his police powers. It then would be harder for b.s. lawsuits filed against the officer and the city. It would definately benifit the city. I can see through the b.s. now. wow, time to work on retirement plans.

4/30/2008 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once aquitted, file a lawsuit!!!!!!!

4/30/2008 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know you said that you trust your source, but wow, I can't believe that. You know what, I shouldn't say that. I can believe it, but I am shocked if it was true. J-Fed and the mayor are about to shut down this city through the police department and I wonder whether or not they even know they are doing it. They live in a political world and a world of professors and policing on paper. That is a great world, but it doesn't exist. ESPECIALLY in the city of Chicago. What a horrible thing to have happen to this wonderful department. God bless CPD and I truly hope that we all go home safe. I know if I needed to shoot, I wouldn't fucking care about the idictment, I am going home and I will fight it out in court and win then sue for everything. I've had to shoot once on this job and I don't want to shoot again, but I am fucking ready and I want to go home to my family. Fuck J-Fed and the mayor. If you have to shoot, SHOOT, damn it, SHOOT and keep fucking shooting until you feel safe again.

4/30/2008 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are ever involved in any criminal proceeding, shut up and get an attorney. Slow up the investigation and play out the entire process. Your attorney should protect you as best as possible and know all the loopholes.

4/30/2008 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm D O N E. I'll have 10 year really soon, can't wait to chuck my star at the schmuck in personnel and say "cya". At least I'll have time off this summer while I job hunt!
This was a much longer statement before I calmed down enough to delete bad words.

4/30/2008 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You. Have. To. Be. Shitting. Me.

On a side note:

Why does J-Fed look so familar?

Is it:

A. An extra from the cast of Deliverance?

or

B. Corky from the 80's show Life Goes On?

Fuck you J-Fed. You can kiss my 5 Year Wonder, Used To Be Aggressive, Now a Mutt that only backs his officers ASS!!!

4/30/2008 12:38:00 AM  
Blogger ShavedLongcock said...

I guess when they said they were giving us M4 Rifles, what they didn't tell us that none of the rifles will have ammo.

This job is going dowhhill fast!

4/30/2008 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous westside, inside do-nothing said...

One might deduce that all the anonymous barbs, name-calling, belittleing, insults, brow-beating and berating J-Fed has endured from this website has got the schlep a tad upset. And if this proves to be true it's just another reinforcement that he isn't and will never be "one of us". Thin-skinned Fed can't handle being picked on, I guess. Lesson to remember, though; targets of continuous beatings will respond, oftentimes to excess/overkill (think Bully getting his lunch at the hands of the nerd). Let us pick our battles wisely, as we don't want to be the next self-fulfilling prophecy.

4/30/2008 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody Weis = Exempt PPO

4/30/2008 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous chicagopolice@wlsfanmail.com said...

Screw Supt Jody "4 face lifts already" Weis. Any dude who has that many face lifts has to very short in the manhood dept.

As for St Jude, Sorry won't be there. Not going period.

I have my KMA status and have personally lost friends on this job. I visit their grave sites about 3 times a year. I lay a message or little flag on their grave.

I don't need to walk under the command of this asshole Supt. to pay respect. I do it in person and where the heros actually are buried.

The balls of this guy to put such a fax out. I didn't see one that said: ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL ARRESTED - FELONY REVIEW MUST BE CALLED.

Maybe have some balls J-Fed since you don't have much of anything else.

4/30/2008 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The really sad thing about this is that this will get more coppers killed than ever before.You cannot avoid certain incidents that will lead to a shooting all together...BUT guys and gals with time on this job will put on the blinders for sure now.Who I worry about are the new coppers coming on who will continue to chase the dope and bangers and second guess themselves at the moment of truth and end up getting killed because of it.It's gotten bad...real bad over the years in the way of the police being the police but this is insane!!!!And if this is true then this jagoff has for sure driven the final nail into the coffin!!!Fuck you Jody...you will go down in history (at least in my eyes)as the one who destroyed the Chicago Police Dept!YOU NEVER WERE AND NEVER WILL BE THE POLICE!!!!!!

4/30/2008 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cline does not look so bad now does he?

4/30/2008 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well J-Fed, thats it for me. If I get indicted for dong my job especially if it is to protect myself or on of my fellow co-workers and they bring an indictment against me I will be very upset. That is the end of policework as we know it. I sure hope the union starts stepping up to the plate.

4/30/2008 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just curious. Is there anything that says a cop can't have a very good attorney on retainer just like a gangbanger? And have him present during questioning and statements.

4/30/2008 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does any citizen question why a police officer would even get out of their patrol car? If I was still working I would absolutely want to remain in the ghetto with all the baby daddy bullshit. Just writing paper all night long.

4/30/2008 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The writing is on the wall. This combined with the new felony review policy. This department can kiss my ass. I'm not doing anything until j-fraud. Give me an event number for dogging it while covering your ass squad.

4/30/2008 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Believe it or not this is actually not a bad thing. It has been done in the past, like 25 + years ago. It goes like this
Shooting happens
Investigation happens, facts get assembled.
Goes before grand jury with the facts.
Good shoot gets no billed prosecution ends that day right there, finding no probable cause.

Bad shoot well you would have been going before grand jury anyway eventually.

Big thing is you get time before you have to say anything to anyone

4/30/2008 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One problem with this story. To be indicted there has to be a criminal charge. I can see them wanting a Grad Jury investigation as a way out of administration proceedings but indictment. If this is true remember the 5th amendment is still your right. Use it. Think of the three monkeys "Don't see nothing, Don't hear nothing, and don't say nothing."

4/30/2008 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lemme get this straight...I am going to be indicted for defending myself in a life or death situation against a shithead ??? The only answer is to show up at every job with lights and siren so that the badguys know that we are coming. This way, they can be gone by the time I get there.

Dear Mayor Daley,
You have now gotten the police department that you have always wanted. Good luck on your aspirations of getting the olympics. I will never lift another finger to help your cause or your "citizens" for fear that I will be indicted or even worse. Just curious though...if you wanted to be the mayor of Detroit, why didn't you run for that job when your son was clobbering some poor kid who wandered in to your offspring's party that you supposedly knew nothing about ? FUCK YOU AND YOUR SUPERINTENDANT !!!!!!!!!! I will personnally aid in this city becoming the ghetto. Thanks for nothing you elitest prick !

4/30/2008 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't they tell us officers to turn our guns and take off the vest and kneel to the offender to shoot us at every call of man with a gun or a armed robbery.

Holy fuck.

If this is a message, I don't feel safe, I'm at a loss for words.

4/30/2008 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if this is true FUCK YOU J-FUCK. i hope that was plain enough english

4/30/2008 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:30am to 2:30am on broadcast channel 48 - Naked City circa 1960 - an episode titled "Why Didn't Somebody Kill Me When I Was Young, S I Could Die Happy" - they don't make 'em like they used to.

4/30/2008 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I guess we are now London cops. At weapons inspection, I'll leave my gun at home. My own quote once this goes into effect "If I legally shoot anyone I'm going to prison"

4/30/2008 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

W-O-W!

Still better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6....

Anyone that gets out of his car now is an asshole.

4/30/2008 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then the mayor and the alderman should be able to be investigated by the inspector general.
what the fuck is going on here ?? Since when did we become the bad guys ?? What kind of society do we live in that people will assume the police we in the wrong and the criminal , yes the criminal - are right ???? Jesus Christ ....does the media realize what the fuck is happening here ? Does the fucking shit head, asshole mayor realize what the fuck he's letting happen to his lifelong babysitters ??? Take a stand already asshole - fight for what's right - or didn't your parnets teach you right from wrong mr. mayor ??? This is getting ridiculous - mr. fitzgerald , step in and take over.

4/30/2008 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt's class to begin Monday. The class will be 85. Downtown just confirmed this with the academy today.

4/30/2008 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F this department and J Fed, I am done. Luckily I have other options and are going to pursue them. Please my fellow Officers, don't get duped, no more work.

4/30/2008 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm done with doing any police work... fuck this city...

4/30/2008 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and the white shirts wonder why we do anything? Id rather run away than square off with a bad guy if it means I get indicted the next day! And if the bad guy gets away, OH WELL... as long as I go home and get my check! 1st and 16th!!! Nothing more, nothing less... the pride is gone!

4/30/2008 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YEAH, hurry up and get trained with those rifles !
i'm done. i'll leave getting indicted to the younger guys. 1st & 16th.

4/30/2008 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And we wonder why only 500-1000 people took the last CPD test as compared to 25,000 just ten years ago.

All of those thinking about joining CPD, take good notice. Then apply to suburbs.

Anyone know of any good lateral jobs in the burbs these days?

4/30/2008 02:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the scandal about Gov Blago bribing people (more than one) to vote NO on the use of that surburban land which was to be used as St. Francis hospitals annex, causing ST FRANCIS HOSPITAl Blue Island TO CLOSE. Remember, you heard it here first. On SCC.

4/30/2008 02:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Score one for the helicopter!!

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A Chicago man who was being sought in a robbery and who had warrants out for resisting arrest, battery and fleeing police was arrested in Lisle after being pursued by police in a helicopter in a chase that began in on the Southwest Side.

Gregory Lucano, 33, of the 6200 block of South Newland Avenue was charged with aggravated battery of a police officer and aggravated fleeing and eluding the police. He also faces several traffic offenses, including failure to produce a driver's license and operating without proof of insurance.

The chase began after police went to Lucano's residence Sunday with a warrant, and he jumped from a third floor balcony.

As police tried to arrest Lucano near 77th Street and Linder Avenue, he resisted and slammed a car door on an officer's arm and drove off, police said.


Police called for a helicopter, which followed Lucano's car into the Ottawa Trails Woods in Lisle, where police took him into custody after a chase.

4/30/2008 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blagoevich makes Dick Mell look like a choir girl.

4/30/2008 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is getting scarier by the day. When this ass is done, those of us that are left will be nothing more than a bunch of Robo-Cops.

How in the hell to you justify bringing an officer's actions before a grand jury if, for example, they shot someone who was about to shoot/stab/bludgeon/or use some other form of deadly force on someone?

Not only does this bode ill for us, but law abiding citizens of Chicago take heed. You're on you own. We will no longer risk our jobs, pensions, homes, etc to intervene in some altercation you are involved in. The message to all citizens...learn to take care of your own problems, because we sure ain't gonna do it for you!

4/30/2008 03:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.K. so if the FED wants to get rid of round tables what is he supposed to supplement them for. Round Tables are a preliminary synopsis of what transpired and for the information to be disseminated to various Departments so that they have an idea of what happened. Now you say that he wants to indict a Police Officer subsequent to a shooting? Tell him to bring it on. This guy is just asking to be sued. This guy wants to make a name for himself by implenting change when change isn't necessary. He really has no clue. Maybe he needs to go back to Quantico and see if he can retreive his brain.

4/30/2008 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow this is fucked up.This type of rational is now going to get an officer shot or killed.Hopefully this doesn't cause anyone to hesitate that all important moment,but i'm afraid now that where all left out to dry,It's gonna cost that brother or sister of ours that split second; thinking about that paycheck they bring home to there family and it's gonna cost us a life.It's time to fuck this department,this city and most of our lovely citizens who hate us.Better to be judged by 12 then to have you or your partner carried by 6.Be CAREFUL!!!

4/30/2008 03:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any one who is being proactive is nuts, until all this B.S. stops.

4/30/2008 04:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'M DONE!!! Here's my jeans. How do you say it again. I remember.... one frank.

4/30/2008 04:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well J-Fed has to hold the Democratic Party line, and it is assumed that Anita Alverez will be the new Cook county States Attorney.

She has run on and will continue her cop hating platform.

Stay safe, and for God's sake get everyone you know to vote Republican, on all levels

4/30/2008 04:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC: In the Chicago Suntimes they said "Chicago Police have written 10% fewer parking tickets than this time last year". Way to go guys, this could have not made me any happier today, they also said "we are to bussy fighting crime", but wait they also stated "The parking enforcment group is way up with parking tickets". Whats up with that? Are they farming out are jobs to more civ., who can't make it to CPD?

4/30/2008 05:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I understand this correctly, and if it's true, then a vote of no confidence is in order. How can you have a man at the top of the department who wants all officers involved in all shootings, justifiable or not, to be indicted and face a criminal trial?
So now we're gui;ty until proven innocent? This is beyond bullshit. We still have rights under a thing called a Constitution which we have sworn to defend.
Now, more than ever, is the time to get involved with the union. Show up and get involved. Now that your rights and your very freedom is at stake for the job you do, go to a meeting and demand some action for the dues you pay.
There is more power in that union than you would believe. But it counts on participation. This may be the very thing we needed to pull us all together for once and stand united.
Please post the next meeting date and time and call for all members to attend. Remember that you can put in a slip if you're on duty and it can't be denied.
My God, this has turned into something ugly. We better work together on this one.

4/30/2008 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even on their worst day, I can't see a grand jury indicting someone for a justifiable shooting. I hope the grand jury has enough sense to ask the State questions when it looks like they are giving it a negative spin.

4/30/2008 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LIsten boys and girls.

Been away from the job for a while, I just hear horror stories. Do not endanger your life, pension and family well being to mistakenly become a "misunderstood" hero.

old retired guy

4/30/2008 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe this!

4/30/2008 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-Fed should be named J-Rat.

4/30/2008 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"J-Fed's Initial Proposal"


should be



"J-Fed's Indecent Proposal"

4/30/2008 06:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

Your source missed the point. The G.J. process can be used to get witnesses on the record under oath. You also burned your source.

4/30/2008 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy City of Rott Batman!!!

Round Table who really cares. It was a stupid ideal anyway. Officers should have 48 hours to prepare their statements and get some rest. Why does anybody need to know what happen immediately? Maybe lock in their statements and prevent BS witnesses from appearing out for revenge? Are our police shootings getting out of hand? Should they all involved be brought before a grand jury instead of a round table? Just more people to listen to the story. If witnesses lie to a grand jury then maybe they the STATE should prosecute those lying fools who come out of the wood work. My jury is out on this one...Don’t get too excited!

After listening to J-Fed on the radio, my only personal opinion of him is that he is a fart lost in a wind storm. Why would the Army take him and make him a Captain? Why would the FBI want this clown with a Chemistry degree? He [J-Fed] does make a good first impression. All is lost for him now, the more he speaks and answers specific questions, the more it is apparent that the fart analogy is accurate. I give him a year before the Da Mayor scapegoats’ his ass.

J-Fed must be related to someone that can influence on a federal level. This guy is better suited to be a hotel manager at a Travellodge or Holiday Inn then a police manager.

The membership has no contract and has expressed many concerns to J-Fed dealing with working conditions such as; manpower, equipment, and merit promotions that still haven’t been addressed, action was promised! Did you know that the merit process is being reviewed and recommendations will presented by merit babies attending a special training seminar? What an inspiration!

J-Fed already has realized that perhaps taking this job might not have been the best ideal. Good thing you got a contract J. I suggest that anyone wanting the Supt’s job in the future get a contract too.

4/30/2008 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck jody and his proposals.

4/30/2008 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO way,where would i park my SUV and M4,,,Go out thier and tear it up officers,,Cooter said hey

4/30/2008 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a page torn right out of the London Metropolitan Police manual. The reason Bobby's don't carry guns is that any shooting results in a criminal indictment against the copper, and he is unemployed until cleared in court. The Bobby's simply made the decision to go unarmed, take the bullets, but make their house payments and feed their families.
This is what happens when Democrats are in power!!!

4/30/2008 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

great message to send there "boss"..you wanted to break the dept. down and rebuild it in your likeness(or rich's version)?
lets see:
dump the bosses (advise retirement)
place your "friends" in chief spots.
shift the sgts
empty out the units
strip rank and file
send out faxes warning everyone they'll lose their job
for rule 14 vios
(and by the way read up on the rule book (joke book)
love this one.. "no officer shall engaged in a verbal or physical arguement on or off duty"
and now have POs second guessing possible shooting scenarios.
(stay low keep moving my brothers)
"oh danny boy the pipes the pipes are calling"
LOST IN FILLMORE

4/30/2008 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Daley,Heard the police are laying down on the job.and ur quota for tickets are down.You and J-Fed better fix this fast,I wunt my SUV,M4,Taser.and 12hr days..Thank U..from one of the officers who is laying down

4/30/2008 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to believe this is true. I would bet my pension, home, and cars that within the next 2 years a police officer is going to get indicted after a police involved shooting.

Da Mayor is a coward and J-Fraud is his hatchet man. These two fools care nothing about any PO working the street.

The peoples republic of Chicago show their communist, socialist, leftist hand more and more everyday. Da Mayor wants to be your God. He will take away the teeth of the police so crime goes up. He can make a power grab by taking away more of your rights after crime goes up. In the near future there will be a camera or two at every corner. The Chicago Police Dept will be all but disbanded. Instead you will have an army of 15,000 watching cameras all day for $10 and hour.


Keep voting Dummycrat you idiots!!!!!!!!!

4/30/2008 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this participant was party to this conversation, and there were more than 2 people present, this story needs to be known to the reasonable people of Chicago. The very basis of American law is the presumption of innocence, until PROVEN guilty. No person should be allowed to allowed the privilege and responsibility of running a police department if he does not understand this fact. Sounds more like the USSR in the "bad old days" to me, a 32 year veteran, who has had the good fortune to see how both America and Communists pursue justice.

4/30/2008 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Morning,

I was one of the 97 police officers that was dumped from TRU last night. The reason that most Sgts gave their loyal P.O.'s was senority, disciplinary action etc.
Well, I am heading back to the district along with the rest of the 96 officers and I am going to say this "You will get nothing from me and these 96 officers." There is nothing you can say to me that will motivate me to do any course of work. With the summer weather heading back to Chicago, I look forward to reading the Sun-Times headline of the future shooting that will occurred. Best of Luck and smile at me when you see me at work I am taking classes to become a lawyer. Can't wait to work for a firm and let my beautiful long brown hair down and walk in the loop with a pretty black brief case. A few years from now this job will be history.

Adios

Pretty Girl

4/30/2008 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in 1969 my brother was involved in a police shooting that killed a banger. There was no round table and there was no union at that time. That incident was brought before the Grand Jury. This is nothing new, it is just new to us.

Slow down and make them pay for the attack on us.

4/30/2008 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off the topic..... This job blows! I still have my ticket book from three years ago. This thing is out dated and the administration is just too dumb to figure out that I still have it.

4/30/2008 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous F. Scott Kinzie Fitzgerald said...

Does anybody know how the burbs handle their shootings?

I am thinking that ISP comes in...? Yes/no??

What about the CCSPD?

Who handles their shootings?

Is this just another way to handle our stuff? Or is it really the begining of the end?

4/30/2008 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not true. I don't believe it.

4/30/2008 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic

SCC, Can You Sue That Storefront Journalist Skunk Times Mope Sneed For Plagarism ??

Again,He/She/It Has Seen Fit To Cop, Pun Intended From This Site Again And Play It As A "Exclusive" From He/She/It.

The Automatic Felony Reveiw For Any CPD Officer Arrested Article.

I Don't Read The Scum Times At All, But I Needed Some Liner For My Cougars Litter Box & Stole It From My Neibhor, Making Sure Sneeds Picture Was On Top, Along with Stienbergs Too.

With Any Settlement Dollars You Receive, It's a Sure Bet, Call Your Bookie Now, Put Some Of It Towards The Mike Mette Fund & The Rest Towards St Jude's

Stay Safe, Back Up Your Brothers In Blue ALWAYS

4/30/2008 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I doubt that the SAO intends on indicting individuals the day after a shooting incident.

What I can see is the SAO initiating a Grand Jury investigation into each police shooting.

This would be done with the intent of having all individuals with knowledge of the incident being sworn and then testifying and if later they change their testimony they could be charged with perjury and if they refuse to testify in the future their testimony could be utilized in future court proceedings.

This would benefit the City in that it would prevent plantiff's attorneys from utilizing the PD for discovery purposes as Grand Jury proceedings are by-law, except in the Burge investigation, from being disclosed.

Will it benefit the individual officer? I doubt it. I would hope the FOP has a comment on this.

4/30/2008 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC You are fucking kidding!!! Aren't you?

4/30/2008 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see Sneed's column today, think she doesn't use the blog for her articles? she talks about the order to contact felony review whenever a copper is arrested.

Also, she claims that Brian Murphy is coming back to the department as a Deputy Superintendant, didn't he leave as a Lt. when he took a post in the Mayor's Cabinet? just shows you that NOTHING changes in this department. Answer your calls, back each other up and go home safe, nothing more!

4/30/2008 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The det. handling the case would present the facts to the grand jury and get a no bill(hopefully) taking the heat off the city so they could say that a grand jury heard the case and found no crime had occured.

4/30/2008 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do not stop cars do not go through bangers on the corners answer your calls and write everyone a report take your time get lunch get the car gassed stay out of trouble let the city streets fill with blood. none of these animals is worth losing one days pay over.

4/30/2008 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is good. I love it whenever I show up at a call the shitheads start yelling the phone number for IPRA. Last night a fat bitch kept shouting she can get a CR# right from her front porch bcause her phone's got the Internet. Now they can start yelling the courtroom number of the grand jury.

So you guys that say "stop worrying about felony review I've got a hundred years on this job and I've never been arrested..." here's another jackpot for you to fall into. And I'm sure Jag-Fed's got many more on the way.

4/30/2008 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC.

I am former CPD Officer and have worked in Task Forces with the FBI in which deadly force inicdents occurred.

I pray that your information is inaccurate because that is not the way the FBI conducts their own shootings investigations.

I was a command officer during 5 shootings, 3 of which were fatal (offender killed). An admin investigation and criminal review were both started immediatley and run in parallel.

The FBI would conduct inteviews and speak with involved personnel at their convenience, sometimes a week or two after the shooting.

Once the investigation was complete it would be sent the US Attorney's Office for review; we never even came close to seeing anyone indicted. The entire process would take 5-6 months.

I was involved in a shooting with CPD in 1993 and the one thing I remember is that everyone tried to help, that lessened the impact of such a traumatic event.

Within the first 30 minutes of a shooting you know if it is going to be good or bad. If bad, give the officer their rights so that they can protect themself. If good, why needlessly victimize an officer and their family?

This idea is ludicrous, again I hope it is false. I will always have a special place in my heart for the CPD and pray for all of you every day. Keep up the good work and stay safe. This cannot last very long.

4/30/2008 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do we need rifles again? So that we can kill ourselves? If the job was dead before, its in the grave now! ANY COPPER WHO DOES ANYTHING BUT ANSWER THE CALLS AND WRITE PAPER is a RETARD! You hear TRu? You hear Tact and gang teams? You hear Patrol division? The Patrol division runs this city nad we can just do our jobs and nothing MORE! Fuck this town and Sup. He is not J-fed he is the million dollar man

4/30/2008 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was just talking to a New Orleans copper who told me that the procedure there is that shootings without a dead bad guy get handled in house. Shootings resulting in a dead bad guy go to a grand jury, but if it's good, no true bill.

Maybe that's what was being proposed, but I still smell a rat. Kind of hard to trust someone who wants to stick it to a cop just to prove a point.

4/30/2008 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic: possible triple homicide in 010. this would be what the 4th triple+ homicide this year?


keep em coming you fucking psychos

4/30/2008 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's see, NO CONTRACT, bullshit off-duty officer conduct investigations, felony review for every P/O arrest, mandatory physicals, more exempt positions created and draining our already underfunded pension, a clueless puppet fed superintendent creating a hostile work inviroment .....
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS USELESS LODGE DOING ABOUT IT??? haven't heard ONE word from them!
how bout this, why don't every member change their FOP membership to just a "fair share". maybe this would put a fuckin fire under fat-ass marky-mark instead of stuffing his face at every luncheon he can pig-out at. you'd still get your raise. so you wouldn't get "legal defense". who the fuck cares! i wouldn't use those useless ambulance chasing FOP attorneys anyway! maybe time for a "no confidence" vote?!

4/30/2008 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who believes this outlandish idea is a complete moron. Get with it and stop crying like a bunch of babies.

4/30/2008 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>The reason that J-Fed wanted to do away with the Round Table?

All Officers involved in a shooting were to be indicted the following day by a Grand Jury.<<

Neither J-Fed, the Mayor or any pimp can make this happen, and I'd imaging all of you realize this.

Nobody can make a Grand Jury indict anybody.

They can bring you before the Grand Jury, hear the story, and then indict or decline to indict.

Thus, it is not beyond impossible for all officers involved in shootings to be indicted the following day by a Grand Jury.

Maybe an officer will occasionally be indicted as a result of this, and I'm sure somewhere in the history of the CPD an officer or two probably deserved to be but wasn't.

However, as indicated by previous posters, the failure to indict before a Grand Jury will be a powerful defense against later claims on the officer or the city.

While troubling, my guess is that this would actually do far more good than harm.

You can be brought before a Grand Jury, but the Grand Jury won't indict without some reason, and presumably some strong reason.

So please start breathing again.

4/30/2008 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-Not Your Friend-Fed

4/30/2008 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are parking tickets down only 10%!!!!??? They oughta be down over 50%!!! Wake up, people! Get involved in the FOP! Fight back! If you don't here's the job in a year or so: Pit bull chewin' on mama's baby. PO drives up to screaming mama, puts his window down an inch and tells her, "I called animal control. Hopefully they'll be here in a day or so. Now can I get some information for my paperwork..."

-and-

Armed hostage taker in a body shop. Responding PO's do traffic control so killer can get away. No shooting, no chasing. Now all we gotta do is sit on the scene so evidence techs can photograph dead hostages. Ho hum...gotta go shine up my M4 now...

4/30/2008 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for a good chuckle, check out the Illegal Alien News Story on shavedlongcock's blog. too funny.

www.shavedlongcock.blogspot.com

4/30/2008 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
Makes sense. It gives more crediblity to the officer if the grand jury finds him acting within his police powers. It then would be harder for b.s. lawsuits filed against the officer and the city. It would definately benifit the city. I can see through the b.s. now. wow, time to work on retirement plans.

4/30/2008 12:31:00 AM

NO! NO NO NO!

1. Yes, a grand jury may find no wrongdoing on the part of the officer. But have you ever looked at jurys? I shudder to think who may decide my fate, especially if my case goes to court following a wonderful news day. and..

2. This is CRIMINAL, not ADMINISTRATIVE. The round table is for INVESTIGATIVE purposes... the very mention of a CR# and it stops.

3. Even if a jury finds the officer acted correctly, YOU CAN STILL BE SUED CIVIILLY under a lesser burden of proof (more likely than not instead of beyond a resonable doubt) Think OJ.

4. The system as it is is not broken, why tinker? A cr# can be obtained, the State can investigate, why immediately send an innocent copper to indictment? what's next, special grand jury, so you are automatically true-billed?

THINK. This is NOT GOOD NEWS.

4/30/2008 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus christ, man you really started something here bud by using the term "indicted". Talk to your friend again and clarify what he heard, and if he confirms, tell him to go ask J-fuck if he understands the term "indicted". An indictment means there's enough evidence to support criminal charges and the grand jury decides whether the evidence supports a trial. Unless the information gathered points to criminal charges being justified, there is no "indictment". An indictment is a formal accusation of having committed a crime.

Get it right bro before you go pumping up 90% of the people on this board. Or, at the least, try to get enough information from your source to clarify what the dumbfuck said, or meant. If he meant indictment, at least try to ascertain how he intends to indict all officers without having criminal charges to back it up before getting everyone pissed off.

Just for the record, I prefer the roundtable myself.

4/30/2008 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It then would be harder for b.s. lawsuits filed against the officer and the city.
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I would disagree. That is not the point. The City council handed out millions to the "torture" "victims" of Cmdr Burge.

4/30/2008 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody call the A-TEAM!!!

4/30/2008 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC: In the Chicago Suntimes they said "Chicago Police have written 10% fewer parking tickets than this time last year". Way to go guys, this could have not made me any happier today, they also said "we are to bussy fighting crime", but wait they also stated "The parking enforcment group is way up with parking tickets". Whats up with that? Are they farming out are jobs to more civ., who can't make it to CPD?

4/30/2008 05:22:00 AM

Well, if you need activity to stay off of midnites, the best way is to write a few parkers. The cars are empty, no confrontation, its easy, and the second I make the bid Im done with parkers too....

4/30/2008 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
W-O-W!

Still better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6....

Anyone that gets out of his car now is an asshole.

4/30/2008 01:45:00 AM



I agree 100%

4/30/2008 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adios

Pretty Girl

4/30/2008 07:51:00 AM

We all told you not to go to TRU. Pretty dumb, girl

4/30/2008 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think officers are starting to get the hint. I don't hear officers going down on TVBs as often or, more truthfully, at all. Anybody else???

4/30/2008 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Believe it or not this is actually not a bad thing. It has been done in the past, like 25 + years ago. It goes like this
--

So you are comfortable with your future and your families future in teh hands of 12 idiots that hate the police, think CSI is the real world, etc.

No thank you.

4/30/2008 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Rusty the bailiff said...

In the words of Rex Hayes, "Indictment dosent mean conviction!"
Has J-Fed ever sat infront of a Grand Jury? Not a fed one, I'm talking a grand jury, here, in Cook County. You'll hear "true bill" so quick, you'll freak! Talk about people not smart enough to get out of jury duty...They think is an episode of Judge Judy, Peoples Court, and Joe Brown all "live and in person".
If there is a screw-up, would we be able to sue members of the grand jury?

4/30/2008 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Good Morning,

I was one of the 97 police officers that was dumped from TRU last night. The reason that most Sgts gave their loyal P.O.'s was senority, disciplinary action etc.
Well, I am heading back to the district along with the rest of the 96 officers and I am going to say this "You will get nothing from me and these 96 officers." There is nothing you can say to me that will motivate me to do any course of work. With the summer weather heading back to Chicago, I look forward to reading the Sun-Times headline of the future shooting that will occurred. Best of Luck and smile at me when you see me at work I am taking classes to become a lawyer. Can't wait to work for a firm and let my beautiful long brown hair down and walk in the loop with a pretty black brief case. A few years from now this job will be history.

Adios

Pretty Girl

4/30/2008 07:51:00 AM

_________________________________

You're getting dumped because you don't do any work. You're sergeant kept the officer's that do like to work.

...oh yeah, one other thing. Get your head out of the clouds baby, you're not very pretty!

4/30/2008 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
SCC,

Your source missed the point. The G.J. process can be used to get witnesses on the record under oath. You also burned your source.

4/30/2008 06:55:00 AM




WHATEVER! The State is NOT going to prosecute some ghetto shitbird who lied about seeing his cousin get gunned down by the poooollice.

4/30/2008 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The membership has no contract and has expressed many concerns to J-Fed dealing with working conditions such as; manpower, equipment, and merit promotions that still haven’t been addressed,



Are you people soft? He was not hired to handle that b.s. J-Fed told the Mayor that he will hammer the everyday copper and he got the job.

4/30/2008 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Sgt's class to begin Monday. The class will be 85. Downtown just confirmed this with the academy today.

4/30/2008 02:12:00 AM

Who gives a shit they will be supervising what? We are done lets hope they still want to be the police!

4/30/2008 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC: In the Chicago Suntimes they said "Chicago Police have written 10% fewer parking tickets than this time last year". Way to go guys, this could have not made me any happier today, they also said "we are to bussy fighting crime", but wait they also stated "The parking enforcment group is way up with parking tickets". Whats up with that? Are they farming out are jobs to more civ., who can't make it to CPD?

4/30/2008 05:22:00 AM

And they are raising suv and b truck sticxkers! The clerks office have a bunch of overpaid ticket writers like the guys that laski brought in making huge salaries writing parkers wtf!

4/30/2008 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Believe it or not this is actually not a bad thing. It has been done in the past, like 25 + years ago. It goes like this
Shooting happens
Investigation happens, facts get assembled.
Goes before grand jury with the facts.
Good shoot gets no billed prosecution ends that day right there, finding no probable cause.

Bad shoot well you would have been going before grand jury anyway eventually.

Big thing is you get time before you have to say anything to anyone

4/30/2008 01:18:00 AM

BULLSHIT

4/30/2008 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3527989,00.html

4/30/2008 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
Cline does not look so bad now does he?

4/30/2008 12:58:00 AM

Cline still looks bad.

4/30/2008 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all u working guys are morons

4/30/2008 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pretty Girl:

I am sure that your departure from the police department will be barely noticed. Can just imagine how much of a public protector you actually were.

Are you taking the city tuition money? Then you have to do 4 years after graduation or repay them.

Walking downtown with a pretty black briefcase sounds nice. Hope there is a paycheck inside it.

'Cuz fresh grad lawyers in this town are a dime a dozen. Unless you are top 10 in your class or wired in, you may end up working for the SAO, Corp Counsel or PD's office....for about half the money you are making now.

Business is slowing in legal business.

And ask yourself: If lawyering is so great, why are there over 400 lawyers ON THE JOB?

4/30/2008 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They say "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by six", I say "I'd rather be carried by six than held down by three and sodomized by God knows how many"

4/30/2008 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear J-Fed,
Please send us some more po's in 006. We are in desparate need of backup out there. Before you go sending Academy recruits and dumped TRU personnel out to Northside districts, please remember the ghetto of 006.
You were on 76/Rhodes, so we are pretty sure you know how bad things have gotten in 006.
Bottom line is we need more bodies!!!

-Sgt in 006

4/30/2008 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even on their worst day, I can't see a grand jury indicting someone for a justifiable shooting.

tell me that the A.S.A. won't push to get an indictment when its politically expedient to do so, even if the shooting is totally justified, with 1000 good witnesses. The State's Attorney is part of the Democratic Party of Cook County, which is beholden to the mayor.

see you on the docket with the ham sandwich

4/30/2008 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look, I've been a P.O. for about 7 yrs, and I read this blog and I hear about how everyone says "fuck this, fuck that, I'm not doin' any more work" (Which I am all for) But what is going to happen when you or your family needs the police, calls them, and they say "I'm not doing anything, fuck that." I understand that it's not worth being the police anymore, but if we aren't going to be the police, who is?

4/30/2008 12:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All has been said about J-fed that can be said, he is not the right person to be our super. He has done a good job, along with the media, in tying the hands of working policemen and women.
Maybe we should be like the fire department, stay at the station and only go out when we get a call for service. Nice job Jody and Rich!

4/30/2008 12:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC as detective who has investigated many police involved shootings I think J-Fed was misquoted or his meaning misconstrued. What they want to do is allow the Grand Jury, an independent body, look at the facts and decide the fate of those involved. Before all you hard chargers who have never been to court in your lives start bashing me I think this would be a good idea. One it takes away the reverends "cover-up" bullshit, and two the detectives would present the facts, along with the witnesses under oath which later on (lawsuit time) would be beneficial to the officers involved because when the asshole witnesses "flip" they can be confronted with their Grand Jury testimony rendering anything they now say "incredible". Whereas before statements made by witnesses were made inside a police station with only police personnel present giving rise to the age old excuse, "the police made me say that". In front of the Grand Jury the witnesses will be asked if anyone is "forcing" them to make a statement.

4/30/2008 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 0212 am
hey stoke job cant you post anything better then false sgt classes i'm sure you are breaking someones chop's but realize that you are posting this info at 0212 am and stating that you had confirmed the info today. let me guess the bosses at the academy called you @ 0200 hrs to tell you.
get a life goof!

4/30/2008 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many citizens make up a grand jury?

How are these citizens chosen?

How long does each specific group of jurors serve and how many cases do each specific group of grand jurors consider?

Who determines what evidence/testimony is presented for the grand jury's consideration?

Who decides when the evidence/testimony is as complete as possible, prior to being presented to the grand jury for their consideration?

Is the primary purpose of the grand jury, from the government's pov, to convince the grand jurors THAT a crime has been committed, or, is the primary purpose to determine IF a crime has been committed?

And who decides which purpose is to be the end goal?

4/30/2008 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the issue of shooting investigations arose several months ago, I said that the involved officer should request an attorney, not a union rep. I said the ASA should be asked if he/she was prepared at the time of the round table to issue a declination of prosecution letter. If not ask that the asa be excused from the round table. Attorney not available get sick with chest pains go to the ER, guarantee you your blood pressure will be elevated. Do anything to stall the process until you get an attorney with you. Now some hot shot Det will comment that he has investigated numerous police shootings and they can make it ok, but these times aren't normal. Now some dept. mouth piece said in the blog that it works in NY (running the shooting before a grand jury), but in NY don't they have the right to remain silent for 24 hrs? Isn't it true when the NY union rep comes out all questioning ceases?

It seems more and more that SCC comes up with some topic that shows what assholes JODY THE JAG and company are. This is followed by several comments saying the proposed idea or facts are a good thing. I think we have Jody's tools using this blog to champion his silly ideas.

4/30/2008 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Not only does this bode ill for us, but law abiding citizens of Chicago take heed. You're on you own. We will no longer risk our jobs, pensions, homes, etc to intervene in some altercation you are involved in. The message to all citizens...learn to take care of your own problems, because we sure ain't gonna do it for you"

We are seeing the shooting going up. Deaths are up. Political heat is up. Have a nice summer.

4/30/2008 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And a Cook County jury know what about policework?

4/30/2008 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I sure hope the union starts stepping up to the plate.

Chicago Police do not have a union.
FOP is NOT a UNION!

I sure hope you hard chargers on tac and the 06 tac wanna bees sure learn something here. If you dont lay down you are nuts. Answer your calls and thats it. If you do anything proactive you deserve what you get. I'm done!

4/30/2008 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know that the people that write on this blog and post comments are not necessarily the sharpest tools in the shed, but the way this entry was presented gives the wrong impression of what is actually the case.

First, you are naming a 'trustworthy source' which, for this blog, requires the reader to make a tremendous leap of faith.

Second, he isn't going to indict officers that use their weapons. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe that. Nobody takes the roundtable seriously, the public thinks it's a hoax and it creates more harm than good. The answer is to put the details in front of a grand jury for their thoughts, not to indict the officer(s).

If anything, this move is going to HELP the police because it will give credibility to the shooting judgment process that will likely shield the officer from further lawsuits or CR's.

The new superintendent is trying to give you guys the better weapons you've begged for, new equipment, and has been on the job for hardly any time at all and you jump down his throat constantly. You guys are giving a bad name to those of you that actually go out and get it done day in and day out.

4/30/2008 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can he do this??? Its just not right, let the blood flow this summer...

4/30/2008 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If an officer is involved in a shooting the first officer on the scene should immediately mirandize that officer. Then the officer should demand his lawyer on grounds that they were given their criminal rights.

As for the immediate oral recount an officer is required to give their superior, make it very brief and broad: "I defended myself using deadly force to prevent my imminent death."

Then wait for the lawyer. If you think the department will look out for you, you are nuts. Watch out for each other.

4/30/2008 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey pretty girllwhat district..? u seem hot

4/30/2008 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how the FBI handles Agent involved shootings. Does the U.S. Attorney take it to a Grand Jury.

And if if Anita Alverez is elected watch out, remember what she said in the primar and remember that, "you could indite a ham sandwich in Cook County."

4/30/2008 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even on their worst day, I can't see a grand jury indicting someone for a justifiable shooting. I hope the grand jury has enough sense to ask the State questions when it looks like they are giving it a negative spin.

---------------------------------
Don't forget that this grand jury is from Cook County. Do you honestly think CPD will get a fair shake? Some idiot on that jury has seen one too many cop movies to understand that the police shoot until the threat is eliminated and not to shoot people in the leg or shoot the gun out of the bad guys' hand.

4/30/2008 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just curious. Is there anything that says a cop can't have a very good attorney on retainer just like a gangbanger? And have him present during questioning and statements.

Vince Mackey from The Shield had one last season!

4/30/2008 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's up with the 20 poleeces breaking into grandma's house? From the news report, it sounded like the guys were in "hot persuit" and the good old family/neighbors, were trying to keep the police from finding dude.

Sounds like bullshit to me. Besides, I can't imagine any crusty old lockup keeper letting some guy with a toe almost falling off, face beat to a pulp and still bleeding through thoughs iron bars.

4/30/2008 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have five years left on this job and I can do three years of that time on the medical getting things fixed up and all ready for retirement. That sounds better than risking indictment, Grand Jury investigations, suspensions, firing etc. yesiree, I can look forward to retirement with a new knee, a new hip, cleaned up shoulders and money in the bank. And no indictments!

Tickets? Nope. parkers, ha! Arrests, are you fucking kidding me? Street stops, please, I'm laughing too hard already. Traffic stops? Only if ordered by my nitwit Sgt.

I hated dogs 25 years ago, now I see what drove those old guys into being the slow motion police. Self preservation, for my own mental health.

See you boys and girls. The only M4 I am likely to shoot is my own, at the farm or some outdoor range.

4/30/2008 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody Weis is a career fed. The feds don't give statements after they are involved in a shooting. They are allowed to go home and give their statement the next day, or two days later if they are to tired. I'm not making this up. Ask any dick involved with a federal officer involved shooting. FBI, ATF, US Marshals whatever. An Assistant US Attorney comes out and the guys involved are cooperative with CPD, but they DO NOT get questioned that day by their organization. They are told to go home, compose themselves and come in the next day. They give CPD a brief account if charges are being sought at the local level, but if the US Attorney is taking the case the feds don't give us a statement. I agree with their way of doing it. J-Fed has that mindset apparently. He showed up at the police shooting in 022 when the guy fired the AK47 at officers about 10 days ago. He spoke to the officers and told them they should go home and get some rest, good job etc. The officers told the watch commander and he told them they could not go home because they had to go to the round table at Area 2. My opinion is that this story was misinterpreted somewhat.

4/30/2008 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have read the desires of some individuals to slow down in their work, not doing anything but answer call, look the other way due to the direction of this Police Department. The comments I am going to make probably will be ridiculed by some but I feel the need to say them.
I am very displeased with the way this Department is headed:
1. Non-Sworn Department Heads (Federal and Civilians)
2. Political Hack and Ignorant Supervisors (who care only about advancement…clueless…we know who they are)
3. Bosses and Supervisors (lack of bosses who care for the troops)
4. Infringement on our Constitutional Rights (being treated as second class citizens with different rules than the public: from drinking at home to domestic disturbance)
5. Poor Equipment (radio, cars, computers etc…)
6. No contract (enough said)
7. Merit Promotions and Double Dippers (bosses taking care of their cronies like those who retired and collecting pension but hired on as civilians working basically the same job)
8. Inspectors (writing up patrol division for minor violations…are not the Sergeants responsible for Police Officers, Lieutenants responsible for Sergeants, Captains responsible for Lieutenants etc…why do we need inspectors)
9. Exempts (how many layers of bosses do we really need…Commander, Deputy Chief, Chief, Assistant Deputy Superintendent, Deputy Superintendent)
10. Sworn Secretaries/bloated personnel in units (how many sworn personnel does a boss need in his office…some have 3, 4, 5 or more)
11. Lawsuits/CL/CR (will this city and department ever go prosecute those individuals who make false allegations against members instead of settling them)
12. Knee Jerk Response to Media, Public, etc…(who runs this department? Us or the Reverends, Aldermen, Politicians, Media etc.)

The list goes on and on. BUT I AM A SWORN OFFICER. I came on this job with the intention to serve and protect (as corny as it sounds; deep inside all of us, the sentiment is true). I am out there doing my best to keep a control of the city (guess what we live here, it is our city) to make it better. I respond to calls, I help the citizen needing help. I stop for hand waivers. I do not look the other way. I do not hesitate to do my job. I do not worry about the consequences of my actions (I do what needs to be done to do my job). I do all this because it is what I swore to do. It is what makes me a Police Officer. I go home everyday with the satisfaction that I did my job. I may not like what is happening to this department, but those are events beyond my immediate control, I control my own day to day life, and I for one am not going to stop doing what I have always done because I disagree with the department.

I find it sad that my peers do not share the same views and give less than what they were giving due to their unhappiness with the department.

As for St. Jude, I have never missed a St. Jude in my whole career. But as the years have progressed, St. Jude has no longer become a remembrance for our fallen brothers and sisters but rather become a jaded representation of support for exempts. I will not be attending. I remember the fallen by honoring them by doing my job, the job that they gave their life for.

4/30/2008 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this occurs along with the decision to overrule the Police Board J-Fed will have done more harm to the public than 50 years of bad public policy coming from the 11th Ward. Anyone who does anything for this guy is nuts. All over the country community groups want civilian review of police actions, but J-Fed overruled the Police Board. Could it be that he was never on their radar during the two national searches done by them? Is this pay back. Remember they might be reviewing his case some day if he steps in it!

I worked Special Employment as the third person on the car a couple of days ago with two old timers who were both on the job before we had the first contract. Both said that they felt that this is the worst it has been as far as trusting the city in 31 yrs. that they have been on. Also they think he is retarded about wearing the uniform. Every copper with more than three years on the job wants out of uniform.

Let’s face it as bad as some morons in the press (Neil the Sun-Times dork) think we are the CPD, the NYPD , or even the LAPD does more work (arrests) in one summer than the FBI has done in it’s whole history. Maybe he is just a want-a-bee security guard in an ill fitting suit hoping to be accepted as a regular guy. But that will not happen because of his salary and the lack of any real law enforcement background. He actually believes he is worth that amount of money. Local agents here who know him and worked with him said he is totally void on any real personality.

The Dic’s by me in Area 3 case management told me that reported crime is pretty stagnant - not down. But on-view and P.O. initiated arrests are way down! That’s why the index is down. The answer is J-Fed policy’s and just reshuffling the same four time merit promoted exempts.

4/30/2008 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One problem with this story. To be indicted there has to be a criminal charge. I can see them wanting a Grad Jury investigation as a way out of administration proceedings but indictment. If this is true remember the 5th amendment is still your right. Use it. Think of the three monkeys "Don't see nothing, Don't hear nothing, and don't say nothing."

4/30/2008 01:19:00 AM

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Right.... there has to be a charge put forward. There has to be something on their mind .... 2nd degree murder or involuntary manslaughter ...

You can't just tell the jury ...investigate this and make up a charge.

I don't see how you could do that.

You could have a GJ do fact finding stuff .... but they have to be led by the nose by the ASA ....


Bullshit every NYC cop shooting is brought to the grand jury. B.S.

4/30/2008 02:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AURORA COLORADO IS HIRING.
JUST OUTSIDE OF DENVER.

4/30/2008 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are they talking about Chris Coleman or Jan Robarts in this article,I can't tell. Does anybody know,SCC?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/columnists/advice/chi-0430talesapr30,1,3657652.column

4/30/2008 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE WRITING HAS BEEN ON THE WALL FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS,THE CPD IS DEAD.

DO NOTHING,ANSWER YOUR JOBS AND COLLECT YOUR CHECK...

THEY STRIP,SUSPEND AND FIRE COPPERS NOW FOR NOTHING. NOW YOU WILL GO TO PRISON FOR TOTAL BS...

WAKEUP,AND FOLLOW THE LEAD OF YOUR ELDERS...

4/30/2008 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous They sure promote the best said...

Commander Zavala (010th Dist)

Being interviewed on channel 9 news:

Re: 3 murdered in the house

We believe this is a random targeted murder.

Duh! It CAN'T be random AND targeted!

What an asshole. I am sure this guy is a well worked street cop before his LAPA promotion.

Random is going by in a car shooting at different people for no reason.

Targeted is a planned event against a targeted subject(s).

4/30/2008 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Morning,

I was one of the 97 police officers that was dumped from TRU last night. The reason that most Sgts gave their loyal P.O.'s was senority, disciplinary action etc.
Well, I am heading back to the district along with the rest of the 96 officers and I am going to say this "You will get nothing from me and these 96 officers." There is nothing you can say to me that will motivate me to do any course of work. With the summer weather heading back to Chicago, I look forward to reading the Sun-Times headline of the future shooting that will occurred. Best of Luck and smile at me when you see me at work I am taking classes to become a lawyer. Can't wait to work for a firm and let my beautiful long brown hair down and walk in the loop with a pretty black brief case. A few years from now this job will be history.

Adios

Pretty Girl

______________________________

Oye Chica.. get over yourself.. it's pathetic! Being on TRU is pathetic.. being dumped is pathetic.. becoming another dime a dozen lawyer is pathetic.. reffering to yourself as pretty girl is pathetic.. but what's most PATHETIC is that you are actually whining about it!

4/30/2008 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tough stuff . . .
Listen up! The arrest of any police officer for any type of offense will now be submitted to the felony review office of the Cook County state's attorney's office. Thus spake the top cop shop to the thin blue line.

4/30/2008 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-FedIS JUST WANTING TO DO WHAT IS DONE IN MANY OTHER STATES SEND THE CASE TO THE GRAND JURY AND IF THEY INDICTE SO BE IT, IF THEY DO NOT THEN HE CAN SAY HE TRIED BUT A JURY OF PIERS DID NOT INDICTE. THIS IS ALL BULL SHIT BUT IT PERVENTS THE STATES ATTORNEY AND THE SUPT. FORM MAKING ANY DECISION IN THESE MATTERS.

4/30/2008 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares let him remove the round table....we have what we call a Supreme court in this country....we have State courts in this country too....he can remove all the tables in the room what it will come down to is a jury and your protected rights as a law enforcement officer...and you'll win if you say "I felt my life was in danger and I felt that I was about to die" That is reasonable and what a reasonable person would do in the same situation is all that matters to a court/jury...If you're being chased with a hammer and feel that the offender is going to bash your skull in with that deadly weapon...then I shot the offender because my life was in danger...case closed...reasonable...fuck the round table and fuck J-Fed....there are laws that protect us from people like him and the midget that runs this shithole...and when all is said and done...I'll sue both of them for unjust prosecution...and I'll win that too!! Go out and be safe...if you have to protect yourself by using your firearm then do so...I have three kids and a wife that rely on me and want me home every night and God Damn it....I'm comming home....hands down!

4/30/2008 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If true!

Does this Asshole really believe that any Police Officers is going out to fight any crime.

My blinders are definitely on!

You can keep your stupid weapons that you want us to carry!

4/30/2008 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and this is what he did to his "own" fed brothers..... wait for what he does to us
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=jody_weis

4/30/2008 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three shot dead in Little Village.
Shark again attacks on California coast.

Does this remind one of JAWS. Where the mayor of Amnityville keeps telling the people "yes it is safe to go back into the water. Or, yes it is safe to wander the streets unarmed in Chicago, oh I ment Amnityville.

I can see RMD wearing that snazzy light blue sport coat with the little anchors on it and babbling in front of the cameras.

4/30/2008 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Dick Dayley before Dayley dicks you!".... seems as if we have all been dicked!

4/30/2008 04:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the TRU officers who state that they are not going to do any police work because they got dumped...... grow the fuck up! When you get dry behind the ears, you'll learn that people get dumped all the time. And you know what else, assholes get meritoriously promoted ahead of good people, District Commanders sleep with their secretaries and there is no fucking Santa Claus!

4/30/2008 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again, I say Mr Mayor if you hate the police so much, and feel that this city is safe...get rid of your police bodyguards, or at least make sure they do not carry guns.

I would truly hate to see you losing one of them, when they go to prison for shooting someone to save your sorry ass life.

You should be grateful for the wonderful family men & women that make up your police force. They are just hard working people, trying to make a living in your overpriced, overtaxed city.

Be a man, protect yourself. Bike to work, by yourself. Greet all the wonderful honor students (GANGBANGERS)of this city as you bike to work. If you manage to live more then a few days, bring back your police force, and let them police without the added fear of being fired, for protecting themselves & others against being killed.

YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY THE "WE SERVE & PROTECT" FROM THE POLICE.

NOW IT IS: "WE WOULD SERVE AND PROTECT, IF WE KNEW WE WOULDN'T BE FIRED AND GO TO JAIL, THANK THE MAYOR & J'FED" Please change the motto on the squad cars to reflect the damage you have done to the CPD. Thanks!!!!

By the way, when are the real CPS & PRIVATE SCHOOL HONOR STUDENTS, THE ONES THAT EARN IT, GOING TO GET THEIR TITLE BACK FROM THE CPS GANGBANGERS? AFTER ALL, THEY PUT IN THE HOURS OF STUDY, AND ATTEND CLASSES NEEDED TO MAKE THE HONOR ROLL.

NEW SHIT TIMES HEADLINE:
COLLEGES WILL NOW REJECT ANY HONOR STUDENT FROM THE CITY OF CHICAGO, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GANGBANGERS!!! RUN WITH IT SNEED, YOU GOT THE SCOOP HERE FIRST.

4/30/2008 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suggest that you all calm down and wait to find just what the intent is. If you think for one minute that an indictment is going to be voted the day following an incident, you are not familiar with the wheels of justice. This system is used in a lot of jurisdictions, New York is one, I believe. It may also be how the G handles shootings by its personnel, I don't know. I suspect that his idea is to turn the whole thing over to the State's Attorney to present to a Grand Jury. I am pretty sure that if this happens you automatically receive your criminal rights, including the right to shut up, and to have an attorney present. Many jurisdictions automatically excuse a PO, with pay after a shooting, until the Grand Jury can make a determination. If they did this, it would probably automatically give the officer a day or so to give a statement.

Please sit back and wait to see what comes from this. It may be the best thing that can happen.

4/30/2008 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, SCC you're usually on top of things but this was a dumb post..Daley is probably laughing his butt off over the posts here. I'm sure what was meant, maybe someone mis-spoke, was our shootings will be taken before a grand jury...Not really that big of a deal....That's how it's currently done in New York...The good thing is you'll have more time to get your statements together. Research shows that your memory is much better two days following a traumatic event then it is two hours after. The round table has been a flawed process all along...Everybody need to calm down a bit. I'm not saying there isn't reason to be cautious and even a bit pissed but everyone, take a deep breath and exhale slowly...

4/30/2008 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since we're being led by an ex-fed, maybe we can adopt the FBi policy is officer involved shootings. The Feds have 3 days before they have to make a statement. If we had a union will some balls, we might just get that done.

4/30/2008 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are not Grand Jurys composed of John and Jane Q Citizen. Any copper who believes he/she is going to get an even shake from the citizenry of this City is sadly mistaken.

Be Careful! If the fools want to kill each other, let em. Don't involve yourself any more than necessary.

4/30/2008 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just on the news, Showed gold and diamond jewelry taken from the homicide scene of 5 dead last week. Diamonds that would dazzle even the highest priced dope dealer.

I guess we now know the motive of that crime. Bet the three dead on 28th and Kildare has the same motive. A total of 8 dead dope dealers in a week, now that's what Im talking about, Yea.

4/30/2008 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless of whether this j-fed rumor is true or not. Shoot! Shoot! Shoot!
To the young policemen that read this blog: most of the cops writing on this blog have desk jobs either in districts or at
35th and have never done or seen real action on the streets. Dont let their cowardly, cry baby remarks persuade you from doing your job. Most importantly, BACK EACH OTHER UP! And if you are ever in fear for your or your partners life, SHOOT! ask questions later. You and your partner will be alive.
And to all you pussy-ass babies on this blog: just because all of you are cowards and drive the opposite direction from hot jobs (yes, i have seen this done. 10 sector cars in 008) dont try to scare the young aggressive cops into being afraid to do their jobs.

4/30/2008 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP needs to conduct a vote of its membership, as to if they membership has any confidence at all in JFraud. I know I don't.

CPD rest in peace my good friend.

I hear Dr. Nancy Jones, Chief Medical Examinerof Cook County is on 24 hour call, waiting to make the official pronouncement that the CPD is dead.

4/30/2008 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is NO WAY a Grand Jury investigation would take the next day i.e. bringing in witnesses to testify.

There is NO WAY police officers would be indicted the next day.
i.e. a credible witness testifying against a police officer.

The ASA office could not get a case together that fast enough to have SWORN testimony the following day Even if they do, I'm sure a defense attorney could rip all the mistakes and lies apart.

4/30/2008 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drew Peterson of Bolingbrook today announced his offer of a $25,000.00 reward for the return of his wife, Stacy.

4/30/2008 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP response to this one???

4/30/2008 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have come to the conclusion that J-Fed is an idiot. Almost as big an idiot as the people on this blog.

Almost.

The story that SCC is pawning off is crap. Police officers in shootings are not going to be summarily indicted or even forced to appear before a Grand Jury. That is wrong. That is crap.

What J-Fed would like to do is what most other police departments do(Seatle for one). They actually do things the right way. Cook county does things the wrong way.

In Cook County, the Chicago police department investigates its own officer's shootings and the department makes its own determination on whether the shooting was criminal. That doesn't happen anywhere else in the universe. Everywhere else, a final determination is made by the State's attorney, a Cororner's Inquest, a Grand Jury, or some other civilian review board separate from the police department. In fact, most other police departments don't even investigate their own officer's shootings, they have the state police or another agency investigate.

Cook County doesn't have any of these reveiw mechanisms because no one wants to be politically responsible for making these decisions.

That's because, despite the chanting from the criminal community, almost all police shootings are justified under the CPD rules and practically every single shooting is NON-CRIMINAL even if it violates CPD rules.

J-FED has no authority to bring officers to a Grand Jury or set up a Cororner's Inquest, just like J-FED has no authority to buy M4's or new cars or make schedule changes or hire new officers or change the merit process. J-FED can drive home drunk coppers if he wishes.

Like SCC, J-FED talks out of his ass.

4/30/2008 06:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic....can we please stop all the back stabbing of each other and become united? ladies and gentlemen it does not matter if you are black,white,brown,tru,tact or whatever the city hates us all equally. we have j-fed who is looking to throw us under a bus at every turn. we have a department that bows down to the ministers and all the other activists. the only thing we truly have is each other because the general public and the city could not care less about us. let us stop the petty bitching and the back stabbing of each other because we are all in for a long ugly ride and if we can not treat each other like family they will cream us. you want to know a huge difference between the old school police and us? they were a family. they stayed united. they backed each other up even if they hated the person. the most important thing was if they had a problem with someone,they took the person to the side and confronted them. so to my fellow officers,be safe,back each other up and let us start being good to each other because no one else will.

4/30/2008 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What witnesses, we now tell folks that they can not be forced to assist in investigations. Wow this place is f'd up.

4/30/2008 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc why did you not post my post? Whatever, men and women do your job and nothing more. No on-view arrests, ever! Let it burn! Lights and sirens every call so that the bad guy can escape and attack some more. They deserve it....60 dgrees today and rising!

4/30/2008 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To "2 guys stripped and ordered to blow Sunday night while off duty when they witnessed a fight at a bar. Neither involved in the fight only witnesses. Where is our FOP!"

B.S.!! Where? RD? Stop starting rumors.

4/30/2008 07:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't carry a gun to kill people.
I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.

I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.

I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.

John Steinbeck issued a warning that all should remember:
"Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin'.

And remember, GOD created man, Sam Colt made them equal

4/30/2008 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police shootings in the burbs are investigated by the State's Attorney Office and in other smaller jurisdictions downstate the ISP will due the investigating.

4/30/2008 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous The Lodge said...

Anonymous said...

Well J-Fed, thats it for me. If I get indicted for dong my job especially if it is to protect myself or on of my fellow co-workers and they bring an indictment against me I will be very upset. That is the end of policework as we know it. I sure
hope the union starts stepping up to the plate.

4/30/2008 12:58:00 AM

We are working on it. As soon as we get the golf outing arranged we will be releasing a statement.

Remember, we want your, I mean our money too. The dues go up when your pay does.

Love to all.

M.D.

4/30/2008 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To clarify:

A grand jury's purpose is to review the prosecutor's evidence and their initial presentation of a case to determine whether there is enough evidence for the GRAND JURY to hand up and indictment. The ASA is not the party that "indicts". They only present a case to the GJ and try to get them to "indict" based on their facts, after which if the GJ agrees, they will "indict" based on the complaint filed by the prosecutor. In order for a GJ to review a case, the ASA will first have to have conducted their own investigation and in their own opinion they will then have to draw up an actual complaint against the officer in which they will need to state the facts they believe will support a case for criminal charges being placed against the officer. A GJ cannot be used as an independent review panel to review the circumstances and determine whether the officer acted improperly or not. That is the job of the ASA.

If in fact this is what FedFuck thinks he is going to try doing with the ASA, then it will fail before it ever gets started. If this situation were to occur, it would be violating the officer's right to due process since they are improperly using the GJ as some sort of "review panel".

Either the exempt who was attending this meeting misinterpreted FedFuck's comments, FedFuck himself doesn't know shit about the legal system and it's proper use, or the admins here misinterpreted their buddy's comments. In any case, it's a bit irresponsible to post a topic this inflammatory without doing a bit of investigation themselves to let readers know that this topic has no merit and will never see the light of day. Even a 3rd rate ambulance chaser working for the FOP knows this will never happen the way it was posted here and won't be taken seriously if it is in fact a pale attempt to put more bullshit on the bargaining table.

I do hope the admins here do their own investigation and post a followup to this to let the readers know this is either a misinterpretation on someone's part or just more uneducated bullshit from someone's mouth.

4/30/2008 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to add again to the last long winded post:

Go look up 725 ILCS 5/112‑4 Duties of a Grand Jury.

4/30/2008 07:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least four killed already today. Keep fucking with us JFed and Daley, I'll sit back with every other sworn member and watch this MF burn.

4/30/2008 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in 1969 my brother was involved in a police shooting that killed a banger. There was no round table and there was no union at that time. That incident was brought before the Grand Jury. This is nothing new, it is just new to us.

Slow down and make them pay for the attack on us.

4/30/2008 08:17:00 AM
---------------------------

If the Cook County States Attorney or the Attorney General wants to investigate you or anybody else in front of a Grand Jury, then that is their decision.

IT'S NOT JODY'S.

Ask Anita and Tony what they will do?

My guess is they both love the idea.

The real fight is what can the department do to you under the new contract if you refuse to say anything.

The 5th doesn't protect you from getting canned.

4/30/2008 07:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this time,there is an opportunity for someone to become a living legend
in the worldwide law enforcement community.

All they have to do is take, what at one time,was one of the finest police departments in the country,looked up to by all,and an example on how police departments should be run.And resuscitate it!

We've been beaten into the ground time and time again,and when we're down there, everybody and their brother stands in line to kick us some more.We are monday morning quarterbacked,adinfinium,we
have second rate equiptment and are
continually told to do more,with less!

But whatever we do,we're wrong!How dare you shoot a Cougar!So what if pookie shot at you,there was no reason to shoot back!etc,etc,etc.

And they wonder why we're bitter?I've been on this job a long time,I can count whats left of my career in days,and it saddens to see the CPD as it is today.To bad the picked the wrong guy to try and fix it.J-Fed your out of your league,I did'nt think the morale in this dept could get any lower,but if anything,you managed to accomplish that.How in the HELL can you look at yourself in the mirror!

4/30/2008 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why Does J-FED Look Familiar ?
Actually he looks like Herman The Munster From The Munsters or Frankenstein, take your choice.

4/30/2008 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true that J- Fed has gotten two CR numbers and one was unfounded administratively by the head of IAD, who was also an accused? If you are an accused, I thought you couldn't do your own investigation let alone unfound a CR. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm inquiring minds want to know.

4/30/2008 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys, hate to be the REAL POLICE right about now......signed glad to be a suburban cop.......

4/30/2008 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is nuts, i might turn in my badge if this becomes a reality. No way am i going to jail because I tried to defend myself or my partner.

4/30/2008 08:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im so glad my friends kid went to work for the burbs ! Junior already has his Glock, taser, long guns and no one bothering him ! F*ck off daley, its going to be a long hot bloody summer in da daley ghetto !

4/30/2008 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the website to find out how much $$ people donate to politicians????

4/30/2008 09:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alcohol testing will not only be included in the drug screening, but they can summon you from home to report to HQ for testing. It's under your duty availability pay.

4/30/2008 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see Sneed's column today, think she doesn't use the blog for her articles? she talks about the order to contact felony review whenever a copper is arrested.

Also, she claims that Brian Murphy is coming back to the department as a Deputy Superintendant, didn't he leave as a Lt. when he took a post in the Mayor's Cabinet? just shows you that NOTHING changes in this department. Answer your calls, back each other up and go home safe, nothing more!

___________________

Did you ever work for Murphy? I did, and I'd do it again if he comes back. My partner worked with him in 007 and said he was the real police. I hope he does come back as Deputy Supt!

4/30/2008 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt's class to begin Monday. The class will be 85. Downtown just confirmed this with the academy today.

I call Bull $#!+, I didn't get my phone call for merit... is my phone call gone did J-FED really change things... I bet not

4/30/2008 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

Story in Scum times told of Commander mealer who won $30,000 from a shakman award. He was denied promotion to captain. yet he was promoted to captain and now commander. Why the award when he was not denied a promotion? mealer is a miserable prick who is never happy despite he strong religious beliefs. He will not comment on the award money. he must be embarassed to win $30,000 for nothing. Did he donate the money to the church?

4/30/2008 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In cases presented to the grand jury, the grand jury has a dual function. It determines that a person should be charged or prosecuted for a criminal act when it finds there is probable cause to believe the person has committed an offense. At the same time, it protects the innocent from unfounded accusation of crime and from the trouble, expense and anxiety of a trial when there is, in fact, insufficient evidence to believe the accused is guilty of any criminal offense. The grand jury thus stands between the citizen and the State, pledged to bring before the Court, to answer to a charge of having committed a crime, persons against whom there is evidence of guilt and to prevent the unjust indictment of those who are accused of crime without sufficient evidence or because of private motives or popular feelings.

4/30/2008 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

One problem with this story. To be indicted there has to be a criminal charge. I can see them wanting a Grad Jury investigation as a way out of administration proceedings but indictment. If this is true remember the 5th amendment is still your right. Use it. Think of the three monkeys "Don't see nothing, Don't hear nothing, and don't say nothing."

4/30/2008 01:19:00 AM

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Right.... there has to be a charge put forward. There has to be something on their mind .... 2nd degree murder or involuntary manslaughter ...

You can't just tell the jury ...investigate this and make up a charge.

I don't see how you could do that.

You could have a GJ do fact finding stuff .... but they have to be led by the nose by the ASA ....


Bullshit every NYC cop shooting is brought to the grand jury. B.S.

4/30/2008 02:52:00 PM

You guys are clowns.
No charges have to be made,
just an investigation by the
states attorney of possible charge(s). If a true bill is handed up then you are arrested and if you make bail then you have an arraignment and on from there.

4/30/2008 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then the mayor and the alderman should be able to be investigated by the inspector general.
666
Except the mayor runs the inspector general's office.

4/30/2008 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blue Flu..........
Blinders for sale $3.00 each

4/30/2008 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS JUST IN....Eigteen ham sandwiches were indicted in Cook County yesterday by the Grand Jury after they heard testimony regarding charges in the indictment.

4/30/2008 09:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't ever say you got dumped. Say they made a big mistake and let you go.

4/30/2008 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
SCC,

Your source missed the point. The G.J. process can be used to get witnesses on the record under oath. You also burned your source.

4/30/2008 06:55:00 AM

Not when we plead the 5th. Which we will be advised to do by our lawyer, seeing as how this is no longer administrative....

4/30/2008 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey pretty girllwhat district..? u seem hot

4/30/2008 02:10:00 PM

If she uses pretty, sexy, diva, baby, or any of the like to describe herself---->she ain't!!!

4/30/2008 10:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4/30/2008 09:46:00 AM

I wish you were our current boss!

4/30/2008 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 5th doesn't protect you from getting canned.

4/30/2008 07:59:00 PM

At this point, who cares about getting canned? I'd rather stay out of the pen and sue to get my job back...

4/30/2008 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP is not a union. Who pays their salaries? The city pays their salaries. Sounds like a conflict of interest to me. How can you negotiate against the city and still be beholden to them. More like the WATER BUFFALO LODGE to me.

4/30/2008 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And our retiree elected union president DONAHUE is quiet as a mouse. How pathetic. A mouse among monsters. He's not a president of a union. He's a choir boy in a sorority house. Bella, please put your 2 cents in. Justs for shits and giggles. DONAHUE is too busy setting up his next city paying job after he retires. As for Colonel KLINK at 35th and Michigan, I'm not wasting my mind or breath talking about him. You all know the drill people. Answer your calls. Go home. Nothing more.

4/30/2008 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Alcohol testing will not only be included in the drug screening, but they can summon you from home to report to HQ for testing. It's under your duty availability pay.

4/30/2008 09:07:00 PM

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Nice try. If what you say is the case, and it is not, then the department would have to pay us 24/7. It will never happen. Duty availability means you are ready to be called in but off duty. If they enforce Drug testing off duty then you are on the clock.

4/30/2008 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the police doing nothing Crime will ruin this city this Summer. Rome is burning and all the powers that be just Fiddle

4/30/2008 10:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any job looks better that this crap.Safer more time with my kids and friends it just isnt worth it to stay Why? ENOUGH

4/30/2008 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a couple of things. 3 dead in 010 one dead in 025. this is as far as i knew at about 1500. too bad it didnt sound like any were CPS honor students.

more importantly, i'm calling fop tomorrow. has anyone been calling them? i read nothing but where are they etc? and yes i know they should be on top of it but have any of us been calling them out? i'm not saying we haven't been just saying that no one had posted that they have. i'm calling. i hope someone else does too. and i'm hoping i dont get voicemail. what else can we do?

and person who talked about writing that parker not to get bounced to mids...i'm in the same boat but ya know what...i'm taking that risk..i'm not doing anything other than what i'm required to do just to stay on a better watch. if i go to mids i go to mids and still do nothing.

i support US, the blue..and as many have mentioned we need to stay together..of course back each other up but we need more right now..maybe a 10-1 to the fop on a certain day and time..we can all call? anyone in on this?

4/30/2008 11:01:00 PM  
Blogger wagonman said...

There is no union. FOP is a fraternal organization whose leaders are paid extremely well by the city. I still don't understand why the FOP(water buffalo lodge) does'nt question the Mayor's silly claim that there are 13,500 police officers. You can't aggressively negotiate with the city when your supposed union leaders are being paid by the opposition.

4/30/2008 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A man is in police custody for allegedly firing a handgun at police, who returned fire, during a chase early Wednesday in the West Pullman neighborhood on the Far South Side. No one was hit.

The incident occurred about 1 a.m. near the intersection of West 123rd Street and South Lowe Avenue when police recognized a man walking on the street as someone wanted for questioning in a murder investigation, according to Calumet Area detectives.

When police pulled up next to him he pulled out a handgun and started running. Police gave chase and he turned around and fired multiple shots at police, who returned fire, Calumet Area detectives said.

Police caught up to him and placed him in custody. No one was hit by bullets and charges have not been filed as of 8 a.m.

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key words here boys and girs, while running turned and fired shots at police. perfect time to shoot him right in his back, yet the public always cries when police shoot someone in the back. too bad good guys didnt hit this mutt.

4/30/2008 11:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the poster who signed as...glad to be a suburban cop.

I think you meant to sign it as...glad to be the Junior Police.

4/30/2008 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"......And you know what else, assholes get meritoriously promoted ahead of good people, District Commanders sleep with their secretaries and there is no fucking Santa Claus!"

I can live with AH's getting promoted ahead of good people.

D/C's sleeping with their secretaries? a really sickening mental images come to mind.


BUT NO SANTA CLAUS!?!?!?

Man, you just ruined by day....

5/01/2008 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ones who got turned away from training because they failed the power test, should be grateful because the first one to use that M-4 rifle is going to find themselves in front of a grand jury, explaining why they felt the need to use a rifle. No thanks! J-Fed and "Dick" Daley might as well just hand the city over to the gang bangers and shitheads because I can't see anyone rushing to a "shots fired" call unless the shots have been fired at the police! It just seems that they care more about policing us, then us policing the shitheads. Cameras, microphones, GPS....why don't they just put a "Lojack" in my ass so they know when I'm taking a shit, too! Then Daley stands up and says these M-4's are so officers can protect themselves against the fire power the gang bangers have on the street.....he just failed to tell the media a general public that they don't want us to use them. Those guys in TRU have the right idea......main objective of the night....where are we going for our half hour? Here's hoping that it's a warm and busy Cinco de Mayo to kick it all off!

5/01/2008 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Copper arrested for domestic violence out of city, already hit the news..he's fucked..stay tuned boys and girls..also asshole traffic cop in 024 wrote the Mayor of Lincolnwood a ticket for talking on phone...Rottner called 024 but there is no reasoning withthis asshole! warning to all coppers who live in 016 and race home at night...Lincolnwood might be watching...don't speed...wear seatbelts.

5/01/2008 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous 5 years retired said...

Anonymous said...
For the poster who signed as...glad to be a suburban cop.

I think you meant to sign it as...glad to be the Junior Police.

4/30/2008 11:36:00 PM

You sir are a jackass.

5/01/2008 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THERE AIN'T NO SANTY CLAUS?.........AWWWW MAYYYN!

5/01/2008 12:28:00 AM  
Blogger Westcide Dog said...

A Cook County Grand Jury could and would indict a ham sandwich.

1&16 The working mans welfare.

5/01/2008 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
Good Morning,

I was one of the 97 police officers that was dumped from TRU last night. The reason that most Sgts gave their loyal P.O.'s was senority, disciplinary action etc.
Well, I am heading back to the district along with the rest of the 96 officers and I am going to say this "You will get nothing from me and these 96 officers." There is nothing you can say to me that will motivate me to do any course of work. With the summer weather heading back to Chicago, I look forward to reading the Sun-Times headline of the future shooting that will occurred. Best of Luck and smile at me when you see me at work I am taking classes to become a lawyer. Can't wait to work for a firm and let my beautiful long brown hair down and walk in the loop with a pretty black brief case. A few years from now this job will be history.

Adios

Pretty Girl

You are a mindless twit and not as pretty as you think you are.

5/01/2008 04:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
Did you see Sneed's column today, think she doesn't use the blog for her articles? she talks about the order to contact felony review whenever a copper is arrested.

Also, she claims that Brian Murphy is coming back to the department as a Deputy Superintendant, didn't he leave as a Lt. when he took a post in the Mayor's Cabinet? just shows you that NOTHING changes in this department. Answer your calls, back each other up and go home safe, nothing more!

___________________

Did you ever work for Murphy? I did, and I'd do it again if he comes back. My partner worked with him in 007 and said he was the real police. I hope he does come back as Deputy Supt!

4/30/2008 09:09:00 PM

He's easy on the eyes, too.

5/01/2008 04:15:00 AM  

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