Look, Rifles!
Cops who want to shoot an M4 assault weapon will have to flex more than a trigger finger.
The Chicago Police Department recently launched physical fitness tests for cops who have applied to carry the semiautomatic rifle.
Mark Donahue, president of the Fraternal Order of Police, questioned why cops need to pass a fitness test to carry M4s.
"I don't believe it's likely that situations would arise where you'd be running great distances with this weapon," Donahue said. "As long as you're proficient, you should be able to carry it."
Police spokeswoman Monique Bond disagreed.
"If you are grasping for breath, the weapon could waver up and down," she said.
We'll save everyone the trouble of commenting on "gasping for breath" making things "waver up and down." Unless it's really really funny, let's stick to issue at hand. Donahue's right - proficiency is the issue. We don't think a criminal is going to wait for some Greek Adonis to come in shirtless with a rifle to stop his killing spree...well, unless it's a certain head of a metropolitan mass transit agency...but we digress.
No anyone else will really care how the rifle gets there. And as a lieutenant point out in the article, a shotgun would be a better option 9 times out of 10.
No anyone else will really care how the rifle gets there. And as a lieutenant point out in the article, a shotgun would be a better option 9 times out of 10.
Labels: dumb ideas, gun issues
posted by SCC at 10:00 AM
69 Comments:
"Don't ya love it, when a plan comes together?"
Just remember, the slicksters playing Mr. Potter weave their webs, but it's the George Bailey's who make things happen.
Unity of purpose is a force of nature that moves mountains, even the mountain of shits currently ruining this city (and county).
Truth and Justice can be the American Way, if enough people, citizens all, unite to make it so.
The powers that be are sweating, and it ain't even summer yet.
Stay focused, stay united, refuse to be fooled.
They're clever, but not really smart, not in the ways that matter in the long run. Because they're not smart enough to be honest.
just like everything else on the job. A joke
I cant do the run; plain and simple. I've been shot, way too many street brawls with tough criminals. I've been run down with cars while on foot as bad guys were trying to get away. I pull my weight and then some when it comes to making quality arrests. I can still run a couple blocks until backup arrives and helps me catch the sob and I think I'm a pretty good shot with my service weapon, off duty weapons, shotgun and hunting rifle and for the department to say I'm not qualified or basically not good enough in their eyes to carry the M4 then I say fuck you department and fuck you J-Fed. I never hear something so ridiculous.
So what they are saying is if you are 20 pounds over wieght, or 45 years old with a bad wheel you dont deserve to have the ability to protect yourself and the community. I guess we are expendable.
If one of us god forbid die or get hurt in a gun battle. With a highly armed offender. What will j-fraud say then??? It's about doing this job and going home the same way you walked into roll call. He has put his PT bullshit first over our work safety. We all know P.O.'s who cant pass the POWER test. j-fraud says its ok for them to go face the streets unprepared because he likes the gym. It wont be bond or j-fraud who will suffer from this policy. Its are friends/co-workers/family in blue who run the risk of getting hurt answering jobs with armed offenders.
If you think this isn't a protential legal problem-check this out this quote from an FBI goof named Glasheen:
"The better shape you're in the better you're able to handle that stress of potentially having to shoot someone, make that decision because, I mean your heart rate's going to be almost exploding when you have to make that decision, do I shoot? Do I not shoot? The better shape you're in, you're going to be able to fight off that stress internally and hopefully make a more informed decision that's right for everyone."
He's interviewed on NPR and clearly feeds the defense lawyers a bone-i.e. a chubby cop is going to make a bad or less informed shooting decision.
Where's the proof? Is a tape measure and a body fat caliper going to be brought to every roundtable? What are his credentials to make that statement?
The entire interview is in transcript and audio form at:
http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/Content.aspx?audioID=22735
You are falling for it. J-Fed is changing the subject all of the time for 2 reasons.
1. Keeps the public away from the homicide numbers.
2. Attempts to push aside the morale problems within the ranks.
He keeps the nonsense going so the Cozzi incident, merit promotions and the like are not the subject of debate.
Dont get me wrong, I think some officers having an M-4 is a good idea, but I also think that the M-4s are going to be a distraction during contract negoations!
FOP: "we would like to retain the tuition re-embursment in this next contract!"
CITY: "well, you have M-4s, fuck your re-embursment"
Y'all cats better be proficient as hell with those weapons dogs. We don't need no more innocent gang members being gunned down by you clowns. BK wants to carry an AK if it's OK.
Fuck it . . I refuse to carry speedloaders for my revolver anymore. I see shit happen I pull a U-Turn and go the other way unless a copper is calling a 10-1.
Fuck Chicago . .
Fuck the Department . . .
Fuck the Mayor and ALL the corrupt politician's in this state . .
2 years and counting.
Off topic.
They just installed the prototype computers at Oec for the dispatchers and calltakers. Amazing big brother technology.
I can see the bbq grill in your back yard, not only that I will be able to watch you drive to a job.
Personally I'm against gps and satalight images of your backyard, but it's here and there's nothing we can do about it. Just a heads up.
Peace. Squad
I was going to recommend that each officer be issued one pound of raw dried peas and a large plastic straw but I reconsidered. Monique is correct, while gasping for breath any person would be hard pressed to develop the pea velocity sufficient to quickly incapacitate a violent offender. Additionally, while gasping, a pea could be accidentally aspirated causing the officer to be truly "blue." Would Da Mare please give this imbecile a different cushy city job, pretty please with sugar on top?
just because the lt. was brought up on shotguns does not make them a better option, certainly not 9 out of ten times. The purpose of the m4 employment is body armor or cover defeating rounds, and accuracy at distance. The shotgun is a close order weapon providing none of whats needed. the possibility of collateral dammage in a shotgun spread is greater. That being said, some of my chubbiest friends are the guys i'd want at the rear of that rifle.
I post the previous about the peas. I am so sorry. I didn't read the story closely enough. Moninque said "grasping" not gasping for breath. Grasping...like with your fingers? I can't respond to her statement. I only speak English and Spanish. What freaking language is she speaking?
I'd agree with the shotgun option, however, I definately dont disagree with having to pass a power test to be able to carry an M4. It just shows that you're willing to go above and beyond as far as a fitness level, and lets face it, the power test is a joke.
Any high stress situation would cause an increase in breathing/heart rate which needs to be controlled no matter the type of weapon being used. And since we all carry weapons already...there goes that BS argument.
Whoops! There I go trying to make sense again. Damn it! I do try to tow the party line in between sets at the gym and shots in the bar, er eh, shots of wheat grass juice at the juice bar in the gym. Yeah, that's right, the juice bar at the gym. Soon I'll be buff enough to pack a long gun like I did in the military.
Or will the long gun be a status symbol of a chosen few who never carried one before, but will prance around with them as if they are something "elite"? And a few of us who carried them in hostile lands will just have to stare in awe and wish we were that cool.
Keep your pretty little M4 or shotgun. Carried them both in combat zones and know what it's like to be outgunned. Don't care. Happy with my .45 and know how to use it. Pass the Power test for the money but wouldn't lower myself to take one for an M4. I'll just call for some elite guy with one while I take cover.
Yes! that is the solution! When we show up on the already done "crime scene" we can raise our rifles and salute! fuck that! Keep the rifles RAMBO give us better cars (Or at least cars that are not junk)! Better computers and best of all get us a decent CONTRACT! Stop holding all the silly meetings wasting time and get something done! Hey where is my tahoe?LOL! that will happen also! Maybe daley could spare some of his fleet of acrs and burke could give up the cars to save money how about that?
J-FED THIS IS BY FAR THE DUMBEST THING EVER THOUGHT UP BY ANYONE ANYWHERE. EVERY COPPER I HAVE TALKED TO FROM STATE TO FEDERAL AGENCIES THINK YOUR RETARDED, AND THAT CARRYING A RIFLE ISN'T A FU*CKING PRIVELEDGE IT'S AN OPTION. NO OTHER DEPARTMENT HAS POWER TESTS FOR WEAPONS JACKBALLS!!! THEY GIVE THEIR OFFICERS THE WEAPON UP FRONT, MY GOD YOU ARE SUCH A STEROID LOSER J-FED.
Go to the training and officers will understand why the POWER test is necessary.
I am an ex-Marine sharpshooter and a well-conditioned athlete. I am assigned to disrict patrol in a very high crime district. Can I now bring my personal Heckler & Koch MP5K, Uzi or 12 ga. shotgun to work with me?
I wasn't allowed to register my weapons with the city. I do not own a M4.
Police spokeswoman Monique Bond disagreed.
"If you are grasping for breath, the weapon could waver up and down," she said
So when I qualify with my sidearm Im not required to take POWER test.And officers wont be out of breath after chasing dude with the gat.
INFECTION
What are we, according to the Sun Times we are like a a bunch of little boys playing cowboys and gangbangers at Christmas. I am not impressed. I have used these and other rifles in he service. I am not standing here jumping up and down yelling goody, goody because 35th St. wants to give me a rifle. Either give out rifles to use on assholes or stick it up your ass, oh by the way pull the trigger and blow your brains out while your up there.
SCC,
I am former CPD and now work in a western suburb. We carry shotguns and urban patrol rifles in the car and are mandated to shoot quarterly with all duty firearms.
Having served in the Army I never had to run around with my M-16 before qualification. If the City really wants to prevent bad shootings they should start by making changes to in-service weapon quals. Do you still shoot the 30 round course once a year?
The power test thing is stupid. Maybe your new Boss should try selling physical fitness to the Troops as way to prolong your life; instead trying to cram his ways down your throats. (Isn't that what started the foie gras nonsense?)
I was told several months back that my life was in jeopardy due to a living organ donation I gave years ago.
Since then I have been watching what I eat, work out regularly and feel great! I feel so good that the job is actually fun again. Don't get in shape for the PD, do it for the people who love You.
PS, I still live in the City and appreciate all of you being out there for us.
Thanks,
What I want to know is how do you even get to apply to carry the m4. There has been absolutely no mention of it at roll call as far as I've heard. Anyone know how to apply????
I can find assholes any and all day without doing a 300 yd. sprint. Just drive down the street and look out the window for assholes. They are there, I guarentee it.
Maybe looking in he front office might find you seveal assholes.
The City is going to stick the POWER test requirement in as many places as they can without contract protection, that should be evident by the fitness clause contract proposal on the FOP website. Watch for the POWER test be mandated for every change an officer might make, Tact, Gang etc, specialized units, FTO, ET etc.
J-Fed wants everyone to be fit (his idea of fit) and that is that. If an officer is off an extended time because of illness or IOD expect the POWER test to be tried there too in order to come back to work. Same as for leave of absence etc, anywhere the contract does not have specific language, expect the POWER test requirement.
The writing is on the wall. That will be the new order of things.
On another note, I hear that west side and south side tact and gang teams are laying down, not doing the usual pro-active work they had been doing and the bangers know it.
Get fit, ride around in glorious fitness and do little. I can still lift an ink pen and write a report and hit six of six in the ten ring with my wheel gun. And J-Fed is stuck with me for 5 more years.
I would rather have a shotgun for police work anyway. Besides, I am getting old, can't stretch or reach like in the day and I wouldn't want to be sending a .223 down range and hit someone by mistake. A 12 ga with 00 buck or slugs is all the heavy weapons I am likely to need and I can't even check one of those out.
Off topic, but I saw the promotion list released today. Only five of the "merit" promotions came from officers working district law enforcement. What does it mean? It means that if you work in the districts, your odds of being "meritoriously" promoted are slim indeed. An officer working a specialized (or "phone call") unit is more than ten times as likely to be promoted on "merit."
This is complete BULLSHIT, plain and simple. Thank-you, J-Fraud. Now the clout is truly "transparent." Stop wondering why no one likes you and major crime stats are up about 20%.
Being on SWAT/HBT for several years, I have seen some of the most athletic and physically fit people come through tryouts and absolutly destroy the power test standards/ SWAT standards leaving us all in awe, but come to find out they couldn't shoot for shit! I've seen some officers with outstanding backgrounds in the military and also could not shoot for shit. My point is that the M4 tryouts should be-- how well can you shoot your handgun and then we'll see how well you can shoot the rifle. Not how physically fit you are!!!!!!!!! Don't you get it the city is tricking us to volunteer to be physically fit to carry a M4. Ms. bond stated "when a officer is gasping for air after running, the gun would waiver up and down", excuse me, wouldn't a gun waiver up and down in this scenerio weither it be a rifle or hand gun. I understand our standards for being on the SWAT team because we are expected at times to do more than what is required of the regular officer. This does not make us better, we just might have better or more training and equipment than the regular officer on the street. Anybody can be on SWAT with a little bit of practice and right mindset. I'll never forget where I came from, I always side with my brothers and sisters in blue on the street, I am one SWAT officer who doesn't have low self-esteem.. So if you can shoot, then you should have a M4, I don't care if you are a fat a$$ or not.
Us fat guys dont rate a better weapon ?
Well yeah, why rifles and not shotguns, unless they're talking about snipers? And what's the point of the phys ed exam? Why is it more necessary for somebody with a rifle than somebody with a handgun?
A guy that can shoot the rifle better will not have to run up to the target to get the shot!
I don't know, I'm just a citizen, not a cop, but it seems to me they have this bass-ackwards.
The weapons are about protecting citizens and protecting police officers.
They should not be given out as a reward for being fit. They should be given out on the basis of need.
I'm extremely fit for my age. If I were a cop, and me and my partner faced a bad situation, and we only had one rifle, and my partner was fat and out of shape, I'd let him take the rifle, and use my service revolver.
He needs it more than me, specifically because he's out of shape.
They seem to have things bass-ackwards.
You're right SCC. Ronnie H. would be one bad MOFO with that M-4. We could call him DA LUBE.
You don't tug on Superman's cape.
You don't piss in the subway tubes.
You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger, and
You don't mess with DA LUBE.
now they changed if you want to get promoted you must pass the power test, this fuck head doesn't get it.
I hope JFed feels great about himself the first time a copper who wanted to qualify for an M4 but couldnt because he couldnt pass the physical beacause of Knee injury, hemorids, ankle injury, or family obligations, gets shot because hes outgunned.
another crock of Bullshit.
Keep your stupid fuckin rifle.What do you think is going to happen to the poor mope who has the first accidental discharge?And,yes there will be more than one,hope nobody gets hurt.We do not need these on a daily basis.Just more political hype.
what most of us feel said...
Fuck it . . I refuse to carry speedloaders for my revolver anymore. I see shit happen I pull a U-Turn and go the other way unless a copper is calling a 10-1.
Fuck Chicago . .
Fuck the Department . . .
Fuck the Mayor and ALL the corrupt politician's in this state . .
2 years and counting.
5/16/2008 11:33:00 AM
Speedloaders? Why wait two years? Go now as you are absolutely useless. Or hit the medical. Please do not ride in a beat car as someone might need your assitance and you are absolutely useless.
Notice, how no other dept in the world had a problem with M4s and Shotguns. Give us the fucking guns with a couple of days of training or don't.
MORE BAD NEWS: If you have to go to 26th street for court while the pedophile, R. Kelly's, trial is in progress, be prepared to walk.
The moron political hack from the sheriff's office who is in charge at 26th street has decreed the 400 parking spaces in the garage will be reserved for the "media" and Kelly associates.
Remember, keep voting Democarat
Dont worry, none of us are getting the M-4s!
Memo just in on the Fax, the cash that was going for the CPDs assault weapons is now being re-distributed to City buildings and renovations. Seems like a "City Building" just got torched...
Now, as for a Chicago city building being on the opposite shore of Lake Michigan, well, thats just silly. Silly, silly, silly!
I post the previous about the peas. I am so sorry. I didn't read the story closely enough. Moninque said "grasping" not gasping for breath. Grasping...like with your fingers? I can't respond to her statement. I only speak English and Spanish. What freaking language is she speaking?
5/16/2008 12:03:00 PM
Don't worry about it. I thought the pea shooter analogy was hilarious.
Y'all cats better be proficient as hell with those weapons dogs. We don't need no more innocent gang members being gunned down by you clowns. BK wants to carry an AK if it's OK.
5/16/2008 11:18:00 AM
PUSSY you wouldn't say it to him so don't say it on the web. Just what we need another keyboard cowboy. I'm going to punish your mother for this!
i have been trying to tell this fuck what i think of him but he always has people around him. so i guess i have to say it on this blog. mr ppo weis, kiss my fat white pimply ass. to much information, too fuckin bad, sue me.
simple answer to all your woes! simply, don't take the power test for the m4. If you want to take it for the money it's up to you, but if no one takes the test to carry the m4, j-fed will be forced to re-think his strategy. There are always gonna be those go gettas (aggressive p.o.'s) who will take the test just to look cool.
p.o. without a contract
What do you expect from da mayor who didn't want M16's at the airports after 9-11? This anti-gun thinking is so far from reality it's amazing. Power test for a weapon for a big city with big targets? Aviation cops who carry no weapons on the job?
Oh, but ripping apart Mieg's Field because someone wanted a park and saying it was for terrorism concerns, that makes sense. How does having an airport that the military occasionally used (yeah, was there, and we did) become a terrorism concern? Yeah, he's on top of the terrorism thing folks.
He doesn't care, nor does the city and we'll pay when they hit us. All the experts say it's a matter of when, not if we get hit. But don't have long guns available, and if you do, PT for them like good trained little dogs.
Remember sheepdogs, the sheep control the game when you don't have a shepherd. And they would rather do without the sheepdogs, until that big bad wolf appears. What happens if you pull the sheepdog's teeth and keep him tied up so he can't protect the flock?
Oh, wait. The feebdog will take care of it. I'll sleep better at night knowing that. Maybe on another trip to another country, instead of bringing back ideas like planters that take up space emergency vehicles could use during a disaster or iron fences where we don't need them popping up everywhere, someone should have looked at how all the other cities around the globe arm their cops in the age of terrorism.
Everyman
Slightly off topic. I'm proposing the establishment of the "Jody Buck" sysytem. Here's how it would work. Let's say you make a nice pinch or do anything for that matter that would earn you a Honorable Mention or a letter of praise from a citizen. Instead of the Honorable, how about replacing it with "Jody Bucks"? For each Honorable you would normally receive, you get say, five "Jody Bucks" which could be used in lieu of time off or a day without pay for a CR number or court deviation. Win the Award of Valor and pickup say, 100 "Jjody Bucks".Say you get deviated, a sustained CR.You can use your "Jody Bucks" to satisfy the penalty for the CR or deviation.You can accumulate your "Jody Bucks" and save them for a rainy day. When you retire, any unused "Jody Bucks" can be cashed in. It's like putting money in the bank. "Jody Bucks". The new way to run a large Police Department and raise moral.
Check out the new movie just out in DVD: "UNTRACEABLE".
The face of the FBI agent bound in the clear tub of water looks familiar. The geek serial killer adds sulfuric acid to the water in proportion to visitors to an untraceable Web site called "KillWithMe.com"
What a horrifying plot for a movie. The "INTERNET KILLER" demonstrates the darkest side of human nature. The authorities tell all NOT to visit the Web site since the viewer counter releases the acid. Instead, millions come on-line until the water turns bloody and the victim's bones are stripped of all flesh and organs.
Go to the training and officers will understand why the POWER test is necessary
I did, And if you anword about shoting prone, I'll kill u myself. It's bullshit, and all that teach it feels its bull shit. seams fat coppers a cowards and can be trusted with the rifle.PLEASE OFFER ME A buy out. I'll take my cpd run downed midnights/court shitty bosses/political chack city and governemnt at find another job where your not judged on why you look, rather, that you do. Hmmmm lambert Tree check-Medal of Valor-check- 100 club medal of valor-check-CCSP medal of Honor-Check- Illinois state Police medal of Honor-check.
I guess I had balls once, but not anymore, I cant take a rifl out.I'm useless....Please offer a buy out
Fuck it . . I refuse to carry speedloaders for my revolver anymore. I see shit happen I pull a U-Turn and go the other way unless a copper is calling a 10-1.
Fuck Chicago . .
Fuck the Department . . .
Fuck the Mayor and ALL the corrupt politician's in this state . .
2 years and counting.
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Speedloaders? Why wait two years? Go now as you are absolutely useless. Or hit the medical. Please do not ride in a beat car as someone might need your assistance and you are absolutely useless.
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No I will work the 2 years son so I can fuck the city out of more money.
Now glory-boy, go put your ribbons on and tell your mom some police-war stories cause the rest of us don't give a shit about them.
Go fuck yourself kid.
I'm a boss, but my heart will always be with the rank and file. Everything will always roll down hill on this political department. The peons have to take the power test to get a rifle, but look around at the exempts this goof was told to make. How many of them could pass the power test? Wouldn't that have been a good place to start, with the leaders, the role models? Each of you take a look at your commanders and deputy chiefs. How many of them could walk a mile and a half, much less run it? But if you want a new gun, you have to pass the power test.
A shotgun is a better close quarter weapon than a carbine for "police work"...the carbine (for that stand-off situation) should be in every district on every watch in more than one car but the shotgun should be in every car.
So get in shape and no smoking! With any rifle you have to control your breating so when you look down the scope and you are in fear of your life and your chest starts to pounce and your breathing increases. Oh wait I am overweight and can't pass a power test! Good luck!
If our union lets them enact the physical pitness standard into the contract this department is screwed! Hey but look at the bright side: Retro checks!
Are you all F&^%ing nuts???? Don't you DARE take ANY test to carry a weapon to help you do your JOB!!!!! Where is the FOP on this?
What???? If you DON'T take the test and op out of carrying one and you get shot with massive firepire? Does your family and you still get the same benefits as if you were shot without the same "GUNPOWER" as the M-4 because "you "COULD" have "protected" yourself but you didn't pass the test?" Could the city actually use that to deny benefits to you?
F%^&ing sissies!!!!! My 10 year old has and could shoot an M-4 without "waivering". All you goofs saying "oh..... it's hard to handle, you might waiver.... F$%^ off. Sissies!!
P.O.'s Wife
Fuck it . . I see shit happen I pull a U-Turn and go the other way unless a copper is calling a 10-1.
Fuck Chicago, the Department and ALL the corrupt politician's in this state . . 2 years and counting.
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Why wait two years?
Go now as you are absolutely useless.
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Go fuck yourself kid.
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I agree.. other hairgel "police-punk" who watched to many police TV shows and "spanked - off" to the Sears catalog growing up.
Anyone with common sense nowadays puts the fuckin' beat car in REVERSE and does not stop until 29 and a day. If they don't, they are just another idiot copper that will jam you up when their "great arrest" winds up on the 6PM news and the liberal media crucifies you for doing your job.
FUCK IT ! !
FUCK POLICE WORK ! !
I'M DONE ! ! ! !
Anyone see 20/20?
Who were the coppers who got busted walking to their cars after leaving Dugans?
I LOVE IT!!! Hey dude, we weren't going to drive [after drinking], we were going for tacos.
Yeah, you want some tacos?
CLASSIC!
FUCK THE LEFT-WING BITCH - MEDIA!
Fuck it . . I refuse to carry speedloaders for my revolver anymore. I see shit happen I pull a U-Turn and go the other way unless a copper is calling a 10-1.
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Speedloaders?
Go now as you are absolutely useless . .
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Hey PUNK, when many of us came on the job we had revolvers as our prescribed weapon. And MOST OF US could out-shoot your sorry puke ass.
Read your contract, if the department wants us to get semi-automatics they have to purchase the first issue. I REFUSE to spend my uniform check on such bullshit. Instead I spend my money on booze and medicine so I don’t get the crabs after I leave your mom’s house.
Why don't you young bucks just slow the fuck down! All that hair gel is fucking up your hearing and vision. You dumb fucks hear what you want to hear. ALL the comments made by the spokespersons are saying it'll be "1 to 3 years" before we get the M4's. So keep it in your pants for a while will you?!?!? Go find a picture of an M4 or go back to the Victoria's Secret catalog to get off on.
"We'll save everyone the trouble of commenting on "gasping for breath" making things "waver up and down." Unless it's really really funny, let's stick to issue at hand."
1. "...issue at hand."?
2. Party Pooper.
"What a horrifying plot for a movie. The "INTERNET KILLER" demonstrates the darkest side of human nature. The authorities tell all NOT to visit the Web site since the viewer counter releases the acid. Instead, millions come on-line until the water turns bloody and the victim's bones are stripped of all flesh and organs.
5/16/2008 08:39:00 PM"
Nope, this site doesn't have that plug-in.
I just dont want to be involved anymore.
How such a great copper could turn into such a do nothing, listless piece of shit is a study many great minds should try and figure out. But there you have it.
Just took it in the ass to many times. Talked down to once to often, treated like a kindergarten kid by these clout cunts. Passed over, stepped on, jerked off, blown off by the worthless union. All once to many times.
Every other unit is stealing time with both hands and we jagoffs in Patrol have to use time to watch our kids grow cause we are stucking working 6 days in a row and weekends.
Other units get to workout during the work day while were getting humiliated by 15yo gangbangers and have to take it. Then they get the little plastic rifle cause they were born right, or sucked the right dick, and got into a unit where they can pump iron 2 hours a day.
What a fucking job. When I was a kid just starting out I swore I'd never be like the old timers. But you know what? Im even worse now.
You're right SCC. Ronnie H. would be one bad MOFO with that M-4. We could call him DA LUBE.
You don't tug on Superman's cape.
You don't piss in the subway tubes.
You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger, and
You don't mess with DA LUBE.
5/16/2008 03:30:00 PM
DA LUBE i love it!
I REFUSE to spend my uniform check on such bullshit. Instead I spend my money on booze and medicine so I don’t get the crabs after I leave your mom’s house.
5/17/2008 12:14:00 AM
I understand little man. You are useless in a squad car. Might as well hit on old ladies. Spend your money on booze, at least it is not wasted on police equipment. One day you will be stopped for DUI. Or retire early.
I REFUSE to spend my uniform check on such bullshit. Instead I spend my money on booze and medicine so I don’t get the crabs after I leave your mom’s house.
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!! Funny!
However I don't think Father Tom would approve
Keep the M4s,I want this!!
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Being in shape will help you shoot better. Shooting long rifles takes more sight alignment and breath control. As we all know going on a call where a M4 may have to me deployed will probably be a stressful situation and the heart/adrenaline will be pumping. Having good cardio is a important. Oh, and yes Mr. FOP we do chase people and use our weapons...were not snipers waiting for the right shot. The bad guys just don't sit there like a paper target waiting for us to shoot. This could end up run/gun sometimes. Those of us in the military can attest to that. Also, this isn't Iraq were stray rounds can travel down streets and nobody cares(and they do)here all rounds down range will have to be accounted for. ~EX CPD/EX Marine
Us fat guys dont rate a better weapon ?
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No
What a fucking job. When I was a kid just starting out I swore I'd never be like the old timers. But you know what? Im even worse now.
5/17/2008 06:18:00 AM
If it's any consolation, I feel ya.
If you think this isn't a protential legal problem-check this out this quote from an FBI goof named Glasheen:
"The better shape you're in the better you're able to handle that stress of potentially having to shoot someone, make that decision because, I mean your heart rate's going to be almost exploding when you have to make that decision, do I shoot? Do I not shoot? The better shape you're in, you're going to be able to fight off that stress internally and hopefully make a more informed decision that's right for everyone."
He's interviewed on NPR and clearly feeds the defense lawyers a bone-i.e. a chubby cop is going to make a bad or less informed shooting decision.
Where's the proof? Is a tape measure and a body fat caliper going to be brought to every roundtable? What are his credentials to make that statement?
The entire interview is in transcript and audio form at:
http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/Content.aspx?audioID=22735
5/16/2008 11:09:00 AM
Glasheen sounds like he is justifying his own existence. I mean, anybody every see Dirty Harry
running?
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