Why Morale is Down
A bunch of people decided to go off on the FOP reps who showed up. Fine, this is still America, and although there is no Right to Free Speech on this blog, we let all those comments go because we figured we'd address them later.
First of all, Donahue, Bella and J-Fed aren't going to negotiate the contract in a room with 200-plus coppers standing around. It just isn't going to happen. And although the City has been dragging their feet for a year now and claiming they couldn't discuss a contract until a new Superintendent was in place because he was their "lead negotiator," the fact of the matter is J-Fed has never operated under a contract, doesn't know what a contract entails, and has no power to bargain for anything. That's why the City has lawyers and a mayor to tell them what the Police will be granted.
Donahue being silent seems to be some sort of misguided allegiance to a promise not to negotiate in the media. We don't know if the President missed it, but the City has been "negotiating" in the media ever since J-Fed got here - fitness standards, work schedules, new equipment, etc. Each of these is a pretty blatant attempt by the City to sway voters, aldercreatures and anyone else with a dog in the fight. And FOP is looking like a little poodle.
Bella concentrated on the Cozzi incident for a reason, and the reason is that J-Fed circumvented the system. By doing an end around, he has potentially set a precedent that negates the entire disciplinary system. Cozzi admitted wrong doing, was found guilty and liable for his behavior, was punished severely, apologized in open court, served his punishment and went through the process of rehabilitation. Then suddenly it doesn't mean anything anymore? Is rehabilitation only for the rapists, child molesters and murderers now? Cops can't make mistakes? Lose their cool? Be rehabilitated?
Here's the thing - J-Fed admits he called the FBI Civil Rights people or US Attorney or whoever on Cozzi. He brought in outsiders to circumvent and bypass an established disciplinary process and an agreed upon penalty levied against Cozzi. J-Fed betrayed the Rank and File of the Chicago Police Department to such an extent that he can never be trusted. Ever. Trust is a two way street and unfortunately, we cannot trust J-Fed to have our backs in the face of an established procedure.
As collateral damage, he calls into question the loyalty of each and every member of his staff. Most of those people (the non-feds) came from somewhere. Most of them made deals, asked for (or granted) favors, got a hand up. And now all those rules went out the window. We're supposed to trust these people when we pull over a car load of gang bangers? When we disperse a corner? When we have to put hands on a subject and wrestle them? When "reverends" and their ilk can allege all sorts of malfeasance takes place as a matter of policy?
It's easier to pretend no one saw a thing.
First of all, Donahue, Bella and J-Fed aren't going to negotiate the contract in a room with 200-plus coppers standing around. It just isn't going to happen. And although the City has been dragging their feet for a year now and claiming they couldn't discuss a contract until a new Superintendent was in place because he was their "lead negotiator," the fact of the matter is J-Fed has never operated under a contract, doesn't know what a contract entails, and has no power to bargain for anything. That's why the City has lawyers and a mayor to tell them what the Police will be granted.
Donahue being silent seems to be some sort of misguided allegiance to a promise not to negotiate in the media. We don't know if the President missed it, but the City has been "negotiating" in the media ever since J-Fed got here - fitness standards, work schedules, new equipment, etc. Each of these is a pretty blatant attempt by the City to sway voters, aldercreatures and anyone else with a dog in the fight. And FOP is looking like a little poodle.
Bella concentrated on the Cozzi incident for a reason, and the reason is that J-Fed circumvented the system. By doing an end around, he has potentially set a precedent that negates the entire disciplinary system. Cozzi admitted wrong doing, was found guilty and liable for his behavior, was punished severely, apologized in open court, served his punishment and went through the process of rehabilitation. Then suddenly it doesn't mean anything anymore? Is rehabilitation only for the rapists, child molesters and murderers now? Cops can't make mistakes? Lose their cool? Be rehabilitated?
Here's the thing - J-Fed admits he called the FBI Civil Rights people or US Attorney or whoever on Cozzi. He brought in outsiders to circumvent and bypass an established disciplinary process and an agreed upon penalty levied against Cozzi. J-Fed betrayed the Rank and File of the Chicago Police Department to such an extent that he can never be trusted. Ever. Trust is a two way street and unfortunately, we cannot trust J-Fed to have our backs in the face of an established procedure.
As collateral damage, he calls into question the loyalty of each and every member of his staff. Most of those people (the non-feds) came from somewhere. Most of them made deals, asked for (or granted) favors, got a hand up. And now all those rules went out the window. We're supposed to trust these people when we pull over a car load of gang bangers? When we disperse a corner? When we have to put hands on a subject and wrestle them? When "reverends" and their ilk can allege all sorts of malfeasance takes place as a matter of policy?
It's easier to pretend no one saw a thing.
Labels: department issues, new super
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
77 Comments:
Is the new merit policy really going to be legit now?
Then why are certain PO's in certain specialized units tellings co-workers for the last three days that they are making sergeant Friday meritoriously? How would they know this fact if it isn't published yet and how pompous to already be treating your fellow officers like you are a sergeant already?
I guess you better hope your name is on the list like you are telling everyone!
WHY MORALE IS DOWN???
Morale is not "down".
Morale is non-existent.
Absolute, undeniable truth, SCC.
We're our own worst enemies when we allow rehearsed and choreographed answers to appease us even for a second. J-Fed and Queen Bea had anticipated the majority of the questions and concerns that were raised, and put just enough spin on their replies to temporarily pacify the masses.
You can bet that they also (correctly) anticipated the ignoranant, juvenile rants of a few coppers who resorted to thug-like tactics to be heard. Few logical or legitimate concerns were voiced that weren't followed by "boos" or other idiotic drones of disapproval.
J-Fed got first-hand confirmation of what the rank and file is comprised of, if you subscribe to the the theory of first impressions. Although he "wanted to get home to his family because he was up since 0530 hours", I'd be willing to bet he fired off a few e-mails to some fed buddies confirming their collective feelings of the CPD before he turned in for the night.
We need to formulate a plan of attack for the next meeting(s) with the poster boy for Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Maybe as suggested elsewhere, have FOP accept questions and concerns via e-mail, compile them in order of importance based on the number of submissions, and have an FOP representative be the mouth-piece to fire them off. Hopefully the coppers present could refrain from imbecile-like outbursts until the answers were dispensed.
And for those of you leaning towards the pro-Jody camp, please DO NOT be so quick to jump on the bandwagon. In fact, don't jump on the bandwagon at all. You can NEVER trust a Fed...especially one that has been bought by our mayor.
(OT) Morale in 007 must be REALLY low, because one jagoff copper from there got into it with two highly professional Gresham 006th dist officers.
The punkass actually demanded a sgt on scene and threw his star at the po's. All they wanted was to see his driver's license. Needless to say, the po from 007 is now fucked. Good riddance asshole! All he had to do was cooperate with his fellow boys in blue, but instead he chose to play the race card and act like a thug from Grand Theft Auto the videogame.
Have a nice day in Callback nimrod!
We are missing the most important issue here--JFED went on the record and said he DID NOT refer the Cozzi case to the FEDs and then later on he made a statement through his mouthpiece that he did it. He lied to our faces and then expects us to fall in line and do what he says? Has your back 200%...
Here's the thing - J-Fed admits he called the FBI Civil Rights people or US Attorney or whoever on Cozzi. He brought in outsiders to circumvent and bypass an established disciplinary process and an agreed upon penalty levied against Cozzi. J-Fed betrayed the Rank and File of the Chicago Police Department to such an extent that he can never be trusted. Ever. Trust is a two way street and unfortunately, we cannot trust J-Fed to have our backs in the face of an established procedure.
SCC: Can you do us a huge favor? Post this on your "Home Page", some of us might suffer from short term memory.
J-Fed will go into the history book as one of two things,
#1, The Best
or
#2, The Worst
Supt. CPD has ever had...
But for $310K a year, do you realy think he gives a flying fuck about you, me, or any other Cop, Sgt, Lt out there?
What J-Fed did to P.O Cozzi should be noted by every Copper.He cannot be trusted by anyone.It shows the true nature of his character and and integrity.Arrogance and duplicity is what he is about.Every Blue Shirts Only meeting he has with us,will only to bullshit the gullible and weak-minded.A Cat&Pony Show is all it will be...
If you check you will find a lot of people in Units that have 3years and less, what about this?
What does this say and do?
...Because we have the Fat,Lazy,uneducated amongst us and Bosses who arent leaders and want to be something they are incapable of becoming(wannabe war heroes)and they dont take care of their peoples and this job isnt what it is intended to be-arrest the shit heads.You work you get jammed.Thats why morale sux and the city is going down the tubes
I feel most if not all officers are afraid that most of their actions on or off duty is questioned by the brass in regards of force. The same fucks that never had any accountabilty when due to the past or clout when blue now expect us to follow every general order or be fired.
When you don't stand up for us why should we stand up for the citizens?
SCC, u didn't even have to say as much as you did. J-Fraud cannot be trusted. He circumvented an agreed upon system of discipline. That tells all. Da Mayor probably thinks what J-Fraud did was great. He probably asked him if he could help him out with a few favors on other officers he'd like to get rid of.
Have a decent gym available to all cops in the districts. So we don't have to pay 385 dollars to go to export and carry a man bag around so they don't break into our lockers.
Cozzi and no other cop is my concern, nor is a pay raise or pension. I just want to make the slum a better place to live.Even if I make a mistake and get fired or charged with a civil rights violation, Im gonna do my bestest for the mayor the sup. and the chicago voters that gave them their power. While Im at it Mette must have deserved his plight since a judge of the court found him guilty. You whiners are starting to sound like those trouble makers that founded this country. Trust the system boys its there to protect you. Gotta go Im callin iad about some guys in a unit that have been on lunch for over an hour.
Morale is down because we are sick of this 6 and 2 schedule and are getting teased of 10 hour days by FOP and 12 hour days by J-Fed!
The more this fool opens his mouth and than cant deliver the more stupid he looks.
the FOP should get their Asses going and use some type of legal pressure on City Hall to get our Contract done, and done correctly. Perhaps a professional Attorney for somewhere outside of Crook County could be brought in, someone with a sucessful track record on this contract stuff.
I was at the meeting and my question got answered after he stopped taking questions. I went up to him and had to find out answers.
I told him that when he was testifying in front of the city council to get this job, he told them he had our backs 100%.
Then I told him the reason morale is so low is because everytime he opens his mouth, he has nothing positive to say. The only good thing he has said so far was the police did the right thing in killing the cougar.
I mentioned morale sucked because his order came out in the C.O. book that felony Review had to be notified when any cop gets arrested.
I then mentioned another order in the C.O. book stated that if we ever saw another cop, on or off duty, that had been drinking, we needed to notify the Watch Commander and the Deputy Chief.
Then I stated his infamous quote, that if we aren't in good enough shape to catch his 3-year old child, then we have a tendency to shoot.
His response was that the order to call felony review was rescinded immediately after he found out about it. He stated Deputy Jackson (or someone) put that up without his knowledge and he thought it was ludicrous and rescinded that policy immediately.
As for notifying superiors about other cops drinking, he had no knowledge of that order.
He did state, however, that the quote about the 3-year old was totally taken out of context. He did not say it like that and accused the media of changing things around. We all know that is extremely possible.
All in all, I was glad I went to the meeting but I felt most people asked either softball questions or asinine ones. It's a shame that one PO has to pay the toll booth and drive 27.3 miles to take a promotional test. Next time she can stay home.
Very good analysis, SCC. Looks like J-Fed screwed up by admitting he was the one that violated our contract. Cozzi should be calling Loevy & Lovey.
You spoke a book in this article that's what you just did.The pendulum has swung so far in the favor of the offenders one would have to be a complete moron to risk their pension,house,reputation and freedom attempting to "clean up the streets." How about those punitive damages that are becoming all too frequent these days for CPD. The same people that are constantly complaining that we don't do enough, are the same assholes that will go to IAD and the media and say, You didn't have to do all that." Fire that dirty son of a bitch! He choked that boy and everything!
The Empty Cylinder said:
The damage has been done long ago, during your father's watch on the job.
He watched as clout / cronyism promoted unqualified sgts. He watched as the reverends grew into political forces placing their own spin on qualifications towards promotions.
He watched as judges (P.Marshall)
created "Agenda Edicts" forcing hiring and equality measures that truly WERE discriminitory.
He watched , while he drove or rode in the beat cars throughout the city doing his watches as the unqualified sgts. became Lts., exempts, solid "gold" bosses untouchable by any standards.
He watched as their ranks grew into a cabal unlike any Mayoral cabal could ever attain.
Today, his sons and daughters, now policing the same streets and the same alleys are being managed by these same unqualified clout babies of the past. Only now they are in charge, at the top, making decisions , decisions about policing, a function that they never ever had to employ.
The clueless elite are the new bosses on the CPD. Add to this, the youth in patrol have to be further insulted by the addition of a totally clueless superintendent.
The damage has been done. Like cancer, you can cut and hopefully repair minimal damage of the disease but the only humane solution might be to let the patient go with a minimum amount of pain and loss of personal dignity.
The responsibility belongs on the mayor. The responsibility also belongs on all of the mayors past.
He can whine and snivel, screech and stammer, and holler- silly, silly, silly, all he wants. He picked a clueless, overpaid, fall guy.
to lead this department out of the "past"???
The most recent dog and pony show was a sham and an insult to the rank and file who are still working in silence and watching.
Nothing has changed for the better. A lot has gotten worse.
Resign jody. Recall the mayor.
"J-Fed betrayed the Rank and File of the Chicago Police Department to such an extent that he can never be trusted. Ever."
This is it right here. Bottom line.
The man was hired to do one thing- "clean up" the Chicago Police Department for the Olympics and the next mayoral campaign. First chance he had to make a symbolic move Fed-style, he took it by getting Cozzi indicted by the Feds. He only now realizes that he also is supposed to run a police department while he is here, and he lost the only tool to effectively do that-the cooperation of the Police Officers. He can't unindict Cozzi. Showing off in the Sun-Times with grand ideas about cars, guns, schedules etc. is not fooling us. What now? Seems like he's completely miscalculated a group of people he can not relate to and lost everything about 2 minutes into the game. Morale will be down until this guy is gone, or until he gets us the best contract in history. Which means until he is gone.
There is no morale on this department anymore. I dont have fun anymore when I go to work, infact I dread going in. Thats what this job has become. Way too many dog do nothing police work side by side with me and nothing is ever and I mean ever done about it because the sgts and/or the lts are afraid that these officers will play the race card. A dog is a dog, I dont care what color you are and so shouldnt the supervisors. No contract again! No backup, no manpower, backlogs every fucking day, denied lunches, incompetant bosses promoted on merit that dont and will never have a clue how to be the police. yeesh
FYI -- tonight on 20/20 at 9 o'clock ... "A report on off-duty police officers that cross the line. Jim Avila is the correspondent."
The only places in Patrol where the morale is high, or at least acceptable is where there are old school bosses who have more loyalty to the troops than headquarters. There are districts, and units where the bosses, will know the names of the blue shirts, don't make mountains out of molehills, often can talk beefers into seeing it our way, are not overly impressed with their own importance and are there on your calls without being asked. The WC there will tell the troops that HQ is nuts and wants this but the real problem is that, so keep them happy with event numbers and missions, but go be the police with the real problem. Every boss will tell you to be careful, the really good bosses will tell you HOW to be careful and still have fun doing it. Some bosses crush morale by punishing every little thing, late for roll call drop a slip. In good units the bosses use the real power to forgive to get the most out of the troops. Late for roll call, boss tears up the slip but says get a mover or a curfew tonight. If there is a disagreement about an arrest or procedure, everyone tries to figure it out what is the right thing to do without it becoming a personal argument. Where the blue and white shirts respect each other there are few problems.
Loyalty is a two way street, don't screw with working cops; don't do anything to screw up a good boss.
There are busy districts where they still have watch parties and outings; and make sure everyone gets home safe. There are districts where the WC and the desk crew will say thanks by buying the watch pizza or putting out a buffet lunch once in a while. Some very busy districts don't have scandals and they never seem to have openings either.
Stay safe, good luck and before you rag on this post, I do work the street in such a busy district.
"Is the new merit policy really going to be legit now?
5/16/2008 12:16:00 AM"
How can a 'merit policy' ever be 'legit', when said legitimacy depends entirely upon the honesty and integrity of those controlling it, and those controlling it are everything BUT honest?
"5/16/2008 01:10:00 AM"
These 'meet and greet' meetings mean nothing.
The only thing that matters is UNITY OF PURPOSE.
The exposure that this site provides to the thinking public, (and, no, that's not the oxymoron that those in power would like you to believe), is what will render impotent the many lies the liars tell on a Daley basis.
Someone made an analogy, on another thread, to poker; know that Daley and his breed do not have the winning hand on this one, no matter what they're holding.
And they've proved it.
They're caught between the proverbial 'rock and a hard place'.
And they know it.
It's time for everyone else in this city to know it.
Holy shit! What is wrong with 007 coppers? I hope J-Fed tosses this asshole away. Don't need him anyway.
Hey 5/16/2008 01:10:00 AM
You talk crap about us P.O.'s letting J-Fed know how we felt when you said
"You can bet that they also (correctly) anticipated the ignoranant, juvenile rants of a few coppers who resorted to thug-like tactics to be heard. Few logical or legitimate concerns were voiced that weren't followed by "boos" or other idiotic drones of disapproval."
But you go on to say
"We need to formulate a plan of attack for the next meeting(s) with the poster boy for Fetal Alcohol Syndrome."
Heres a suggestion to you...Go get yourself a glass of SHUT THE FUCK UP and drink it all you uppity prick!
Please post the 007 jagoff's initials that fucked with the coppers from 006.
He needs an attitude adjustment.
The copper from 007 that pulled that stunt is a real tool. We don't care for his race-baiting ways in 007. We're not all goofs.
-Englewood ranger
Morale we have morale? That is raelly a word that the bosses could careless about as they continue on the same path as they did years ago! Now we have a more educated police force (No not me but i am in the KMA club), and these kids are not allowing all the shit that was heaped on us to go unoticed! No more all the bullshit from the fatass bosses, at least not as prevalent as in past years! Hey does j-fed even have a college education?
Trust J Fraud I dont think so. He has proven that he doesnt follow the rules. We are subject to rules and regulations but he feels he is above them. Jfraud and the mayor can explain why we dont care anymore. ill writethe report when someone gets killed in this cesspool of a city but I will not try and prevent anything. I take my lunch get a personell and even a park check but not arrests movers or parkers kiss my ass daley and jfraud.
Because today you cannot be the police.There is no incentive to do anything.
Here is a morale boost!
City of Chicago garbage workers starting salary $60.153
http://redeye.chicagotribune.com/red-051508-garbage-side2,0,1719745.story
What is a police officers starting salary?
My morale improves tremendously when I get home to my family, that is all that counts. I do not get my sense of self worth from how this department treats me, if I did I would have ate the gun long ago.
The job needs to be done, I do it as best as I can and that is that. If I help someone during my tour, all the better. what my Sgts or Lt's or Capt or D/C think of me and my work doesn't mean jack fucking shit to me. I am grown enough to know I am needed on the street and that there are citizens who would be very fucked without me doing my job.
Fuck morale, fuck the CPD and fuck those silly colored ribbons they pass out at phony baloney ceremonies. Do the job because it needs to be done and tell them to shove their awards, shove their M4's, shove their promotions and shove their special units. Patrol and Detectives do most of the heavy lifting, same as ever.
OT) Morale in 007 must be REALLY low, because one jagoff copper from there got into it with two highly professional Gresham 006th dist officers.
The punkass actually demanded a sgt on scene and threw his star at the po's. All they wanted was to see his driver's license. Needless to say, the po from 007 is now fucked. Good riddance asshole! All he had to do was cooperate with his fellow boys in blue, but instead he chose to play the race card and act like a thug from Grand Theft Auto the videogame.
Have a nice day in Callback nimrod!
5/16/2008 01:11:00 AM
If he showed you his star why did you want to see his license ???? I vant recall ever asking a P.O. for his license after stopping him, all I said was have a nice day ofice
ABC is airing the interview with J-Fed and releasing the tapes from the Jefferson tap tonight on 20/20The topic is surveillance cameras and police culture.
POst this in 017th District!!
"Loyalty is a two way street, don't screw with working cops; don't do anything to screw up a good boss.
There are busy districts where they still have watch parties and outings; and make sure everyone gets home safe. There are districts where the WC and the desk crew will say thanks by buying the watch pizza or putting out a buffet lunch once in a while. Some very busy districts don't have scandals and they never seem to have openings either.
Stay safe, good luck and before you rag on this post, I do work the street in such a busy district.
5/16/2008 10:45:00 AM
(OT) Morale in 007 must be REALLY low, because one jagoff copper from there got into it with two highly professional Gresham 006th dist officers.
The punkass actually demanded a sgt on scene and threw his star at the po's. All they wanted was to see his driver's license. Needless to say, the po from 007 is now fucked. Good riddance asshole! All he had to do was cooperate with his fellow boys in blue, but instead he chose to play the race card and act like a thug from Grand Theft Auto the videogame.
Have a nice day in Callback nimrod!
Wow! When did this happen? I'm rdo so I've in my basement, under the steps drinking. I figure they won't find me there if I'm suspected of getting drunk. I been in 007 for 5 years now, and most (not all) of the po's there are decent people. That goes for black, white, hispanic and anything else there.
What watch did this happen on? Name of this particular nimrod?
If he showed you his star why did you want to see his license ???? I vant recall ever asking a P.O. for his license after stopping him, all I said was have a nice day ofice
**Do you know how many stars are lost/stolen? Ask for work ID and DL. Verify!!!
OT) Morale in 007 must be REALLY low, because one jagoff copper from there got into it with two highly professional Gresham 006th dist officers.
The punkass actually demanded a sgt on scene and threw his star at the po's. All they wanted was to see his driver's license. Needless to say, the po from 007 is now fucked. Good riddance asshole! All he had to do was cooperate with his fellow boys in blue, but instead he chose to play the race card and act like a thug from Grand Theft Auto the videogame.
Have a nice day in Callback nimrod!
5/16/2008 01:11:00 AM
If he showed you his star why did you want to see his license ???? I vant recall ever asking a P.O. for his license after stopping him, all I said was have a nice day ofice
First, you could show me all the stars in the world, but you better have an ID to go along with it. Too many fake stars and badges going around out there.
Second, there is absolutly no reason to give a P.O. a hard time, especially being a P.O. himself. I would never write a P.O. knowing he is in fact a P.O. But if you want to give me shit for doing my job pulling over someone driving like a jag, well now its out of m hands. Let the white shirt decide.
Third, don't they got camera cars in 006? If this is true, and this guy was acting like a jag, then I'd love to see the video
what up with the order from wanna b a lawyer kirby!
SH HAS POSTED AN ORDER SAYING THAT NO OFFICER CAN SPEAK TO THE MEDIA ABOUT THE ABBATE CASE.
AT ANY TIME EVEN OFF DUTY!!!
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT WEIRD THING CALLED FREE SPEECH? WHO IS SHE TO DRUM UP ORDER LIKE THAT!
ITS POSTED IN THE CO BOOKS!
i have said it before and i'll say it again on this blog-- j-fed fucked himself forever when he jack potted billy cozzi on the bullshit hospital beef. you mr ppo weis are persona non grata at my house and with my family. i could care less what you want to do or how you want to do it. are you a friend of the super spy fbi guy hansen. i'll bet you know him well. you might be a spy as far as i'm concerned-- you should be stripped and sent to call back because you may be crooked like your fbi buddy. hey jagoff, how about sitting at call back for about five years until the professional investigators we have find you innocent. you are such a mope i wouldn't let you walk my dog around the block. fuckin silly putty head idiot savant drag queen.
There are busy districts where they still have watch parties and outings; and make sure everyone gets home safe. There are districts where the WC and the desk crew will say thanks by buying the watch pizza or putting out a buffet lunch once in a while. Some very busy districts don't have scandals and they never seem to have openings either.
Stay safe, good luck and before you rag on this post, I do work the street in such a busy district.
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Well said brother! There are still places like that but as you said they fly under the radar because the people there don't want it to be screwed up. I'm in a place like that now, as a sgt and there are good coppers here doing a good job. We try to work together, we attempt not to take shit personally-in both directions- learn from what happens and move on. It makes a long day shorter when you can have a few laughs and lock up some jerkoff now and then. Event numbers, missions, take them for what they are worth-nothing at all but a few BS numbers on a piece of paper. Just try to separate the unimportant from the important.
Unimportant: missions and shit. Doing them is out of your and my control.
Important: everybody goes home safe.
The end. Stay safe. Please.
If he showed you his star why did you want to see his license ???? I vant recall ever asking a P.O. for his license after stopping him, all I said was have a nice day ofice
5/16/2008 02:59:00 PM
I have stopped a few coppers over the years. When I see the star I always asked if they had an ID to go with it. If they started to reach for a wallet it was have a nice day & stay safe....
I understand that the reason we recieved new stars was that so many had been lost or stolen. I seem to remember that you suppose to carry you ID along with the star.
Did anyone actually believe that this so called meeting ended positively for any CPD officer. Cmon people. Wake and smell the gasoline. One person should have been at that metting. ONE. BELLA. And that's it.
Don't show your stupidity by going to the next one, and the one after that, and so on and so on. JFED doesn't give a rat's ass about your concerns. Did you all forget he makes 6 G's a week for 156 weeks. He's the highest paid AXMAN in the history of corporate America.
That dog and pony show was only put on to appease the masses. To make the appearance that he actually cares. LOL. The herd is what he has been hired to thin out people! It's time to use your brains. Don't be stupid.
It is better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt.
"the day of giving people passes is over"
qoute JFED 20/20 16 MAY 2008 2130HRS
IM OFF TO A FUN RAISER TO GET HAMMERED.
ANYONE SEE THE CRAPPY STORY ABOUT DRUNKEN COPPERS ON 20/20 TONIGHT?
OT) Morale in 007 must be REALLY low, because one jagoff copper from there got into it with two highly professional Gresham 006th dist officers.
The punkass actually demanded a sgt on scene and threw his star at the po's. All they wanted was to see his driver's license. Needless to say, the po from 007 is now fucked. Good riddance asshole! All he had to do was cooperate with his fellow boys in blue, but instead he chose to play the race card and act like a thug from Grand Theft Auto the videogame.
Have a nice day in Callback nimrod!
5/16/2008 01:11:00 AM
probably the same idiot who got locked up on 008 for fighting with the police, say hi to corey flagg when you end up in prison
what up with the order from wanna b a lawyer kirby!
SH HAS POSTED AN ORDER SAYING THAT NO OFFICER CAN SPEAK TO THE MEDIA ABOUT THE ABBATE CASE.
AT ANY TIME EVEN OFF DUTY!!!
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT WEIRD THING CALLED FREE SPEECH? WHO IS SHE TO DRUM UP ORDER LIKE THAT!
ITS POSTED IN THE CO BOOKS!
5/16/2008 07:17:00 PM
this was the judges' order not kirbys. the dept. was just following what the court had ordered.
but kirby is still a hack
SCC that was a great post. It brought back memories of a roll call where the watch commander said "He was right behind us in all our actions as police officers." I was a PPO then in my first cycle and was being trained by a seasoned FTO. The watch commander seemed sincere and I was moved by what he said. I spoke to my FTO about it. My FTO said "Right kid, he's right behind us so we get the bullet first. He should of said he was beside us." J-Fed was not beside Cozzi but right behind him before he pushed him under the train.
The camera cars in 006 don't apply to the nimrod 007 copper. The guys who pulled him over were a late rapid. No camera.
Just look at CB Rhein who made the merit list for sgt. Like to sign supervisors names to his own transffer to swat.Gets caught and nothing happens.Thats why morale is is the sewer.
010th District has the best bosses!!!!!!!!!!
If he showed you his star why did you want to see his license ???? I vant recall ever asking a P.O. for his license after stopping him, all I said was have a nice day ofice
Doesn't matter. When you are stopped off duty you are in the wrong. Get off your attitude and pay respect to the on duty officer, just like you want the public to do to you, and you will be on your way sooner. The license has nothing to do with this, it's the person and the attitude. Earn respect MF!
Maybe morale is down partly because while the patrol division is working, we have over priced secretaries working short days in jeans and t shirts. Why in some districts do the office workers and caps, wear uniforms and most dists. they wear jeans and collect the same pay check I do? Are they the police? Where are their guns?
What if they get called out, Do they go in jeans?
Many of these secretaries came on this job to work inside. Ill bet most have more time behind the desk than in a car. Hire civilians and put the "secretaries" back on the street.
BLINDERS. KEEP THE BLINDERS ON...
Anonymous said...
Maybe morale is down partly because while the patrol division is working, we have over priced secretaries working short days in jeans and t shirts. Why in some districts do the office workers and caps, wear uniforms and most dists.
Why are PO's filling civilian positions? Double the salary and one less PO on the street. Amazing system. Every unit especially 35th street has PO's in civilian sopts. Do an audit, JFED. Then the young females inside might have to work! Bosses daughters working the street?
The only thing that happened to the jagoff copper from 007 is a CR#. That's it. End of story. Fuck all y'all bitches in Greshams!
You wouldn't know how to handle a simple domestic in the real GHETTO...Ennnnnnnglewoooood!!!!!!!
FOP is showing some very WEAK leadership. Not dealing with the important issues, and not worthy of our full support. Time to get out of bed with City Hall boys, or get out altogether. Hope you grow some balls by the next meeting with the Supt; but I doubt it
Yeah City and FOP, quit teasing us with the 10 hr. workday, just do it, we're sick of hearing you talk and bicker about it for the last 5 years. What a bunch of DORKS!
Once Osama Obama is in, everything will be fantastic, cuz he's a genius, even though he's never had a legit job .
Doesn't anyone see that the po from 007 could have really screwed up his job? We will probably have to have a benefit for the po in 007 now. He should have never been pulled over by fellow coppers. He wasn't speeding that bad. The asian cop should have let the star be enough. Now agood man has to get a pointless cr# initiated.
At least in 007, we take care of our fellow po's. Sounds like 006 is good at fucking over cops!
010th Distict USED to have the best bosses. Not no more!!!!
"010th District has the best bosses!!!!!!!!!!
5/17/2008 12:01:00 AM"
Agreed! 010 is Bea Cuello's old district and she was an excellent commander, always looking out for the troops. She must be going nuts trying to teach Jody about the real police. That meeting was a start.
It must be like trying to educate the autistic without benefit of large doses of drugs. I would suggest that she try electro-shock-negative-reinforcement techniques or just use her baton.
Morale is down because Richie Daley still micromanages this department. Period.
Anonymous said...
Doesn't anyone see that the po from 007 could have really screwed up his job? We will probably have to have a benefit for the po in 007 now. He should have never been pulled over by fellow coppers. He wasn't speeding that bad. The asian cop should have let the star be enough. Now agood man has to get a pointless cr# initiated.
At least in 007, we take care of our fellow po's. Sounds like 006 is good at fucking over cops!
5/17/2008 01:37:00 PM
The star is NOT good enough. A lot of fake/stolen stars out there. Be a fuckin gentleman when you get pulled over and give the police what they ask for. You do not have I AM A P.O. tattooed on your forehead. People on this job amaze me with their arrogance and stupidity sometimes.
Morale is down because we are sick of this 6 and 2 schedule and are getting teased of 10 hour days by FOP and 12 hour days by J-Fed!
5/16/2008 08:29:00 AM
Are you fuckin' kidding me? Sorry - no offense...
10 hours - not what I want to do when we're in a backlog all night, all over the place handling assignments. What about those days you have court? Yea - thanks but no thanks.
12 hours? NO FUCKIN WAY! 12 hours at work an hour getting ready & going to work, another what 20-30 minutes to get back home. Again, what about court days? And those with families - with school-aged kids? 'I'll see ya in 3.5 days kids! No, wait check that 4.5 because I have to get some sleep' Oh, wait no - 5.5 days cause I have court.' Sidejobs? There's alot to consider.
I have NO desire to handle 12 hours of baby mama drama & the 10 year old is disrespecting mama (b/c somehow this is a police matter?). For a longer span of days off? It'll be like midnights. You'll spend the 1st day just trying to catch up on sleep.
Remember - is brain-child was J-Feds idea to 'keep us out of the bars'.
Our illustrious FOP has admitted that they haven't even researched other possible work schedules to bring to the City for contract talks.
Folks - this is about officer safety. 10/12 hour shifts is too long to be on top of your game when being on the streets. It's not like we're office urchins plopped behind a desk all day. I am NOT trying to be the Doom & Gloom police here, but honestly - we risk our lives everyday when we hit the streets. Even more so in the climate of the City right now.
I am sick of the 6 day work weeks as well. Hell, by day 4 I start to feel the drain - by 6 most often I feel like a wrung out dishrag. I know we all feel the same.
I do recall quite sometime back (2 yrs maybe) there were posts regarding other departments reasonable work schedules.
There has to be a better way.
I think morale is low because our Superintendent has made it obvious that he will not back us up. He has every intention of kissing ass to the media, phony Reverends, Daley, and any other political hack that can further his own agenda. If you're a worker you are the one who has everything to lose.Please Jody, grow some balls and realize our job is stressfull enough without a Superintendent that doesn't have our backs.
You would have to be an absolute fucking moron to do any type of pro active police work in this sort of political environment. You could lose your job, your house, pension, deferred comp, money that you saved and spend time in jail. So the remedy to this as beat cops is to answer your calls for police service and if you see anything on view take care of it. Other than that try to make it though the day and do what you have to do to stay safe and go home to your family.
There's alot of good pinches out there. You just have to know how to avoid them.
Morale is down because you have the holyer than thou like Mikey Meahler in 17th district that couldnt stand up for the rules and fire one of Tobias boys.You know the guy(CB) that likes to sign your name for swat application.How Mikey can you live with yourself?Moral or morale it is all BULLSHIT!!You just helped the currupt and criminals amongst us get ahead.Must be nice to be a commander of police.40 pieces of silver was enough for you to sell out your soul for more prestige and money.Pride cometh before the fall.
Anonymous said...
Maybe morale is down partly because while the patrol division is working, we have over priced secretaries working short days in jeans and t shirts.
Return of the mad shitter says....
No, ASSHAT. That is not why morale is down.
What an idiot!
Anonymous said...
Cozzi and no other cop is my concern, nor is a pay raise or pension. I just want to make the slum a better place to live.Even if I make a mistake and get fired or charged with a civil rights violation, Im gonna do my bestest for the mayor the sup. and the chicago voters that gave them their power. While Im at it Mette must have deserved his plight since a judge of the court found him guilty. You whiners are starting to sound like those trouble makers that founded this country. Trust the system boys its there to protect you. Gotta go Im callin iad about some guys in a unit that have been on lunch for over an hour.
The Return of the mad shitter says....
LOL! That was very funny. Sounds like an excellent satire of ASSHATS that actually exists on this department.
...Because we have the Fat,Lazy,uneducated amongst us and Bosses who arent leaders and want to be something they are incapable of becoming(wannabe war heroes)and they dont take care of their peoples and this job isnt what it is intended to be-arrest the shit heads.You work you get jammed.Thats why morale sux and the city is going down the tubes
Return of the mad shitter says.......
Sounds somewhat valid.
Anonymous said...
Here's the thing - J-Fed admits he called the FBI Civil Rights people or US Attorney or whoever on Cozzi. He brought in outsiders to circumvent and bypass an established disciplinary process and an agreed upon penalty levied against Cozzi. J-Fed betrayed the Rank and File of the Chicago Police Department to such an extent that he can never be trusted. Ever. Trust is a two way street and unfortunately, we cannot trust J-Fed to have our backs in the face of an established procedure.
SCC: Can you do us a huge favor? Post this on your "Home Page", some of us might suffer from short term memory.
Return of the mad shitter says....
YES SCC. PLEASE POST THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!!
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