Rumors of St. Jude
Dear Superintendent Weis,
I was reading the Lieutenants Association Newsletter and was very happy to see Lieutenant Robert Stasch's article about the Saint Jude March. He is absolutely right in wanting the Saint Jude March back on Michigan Avenue.
Last year I sent an E-Mail to Superintendant Cline expressing the opinion of myself and several other officers that the Saint Jude March should be on Michigan Avenue. I received a polite respond and that was the end of it.
The decision to move the Saint Jude March to the Memorial was made by a small group of people. I think that the entire department should have been polled on this matter.
The bottom line is that we get so much negative press and I feel that when the Chicago Police Department is doing something so wonderful as honoring their fallen members that they should be in their full glory on Michigan Avenue for the whole world to see.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and thank you in advance for any consideration given to this matter.
Lieutenant Maureen E. Ziegenhorn
The letter from Lt. Ziegenhorn was sent to the Superintendent on 21 May 2008. The Superintendent has responded since then to her that he is working to ensure that the St. Judes March will be held next year back on Michigan Ave. where it belongs.
18th District
Labels: general
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
53 Comments:
I'm not a cop but I do agree with you that it should be on Michigan Ave for all to see. I admire what you guys do and believe that the good guys should get to be front and center on display.
Maybe if J-FED does that it could help boost morale a little.
Thanks for ALL that you guys do and STAY SAFE PLEASE
Yet another example of why 18 is fantastic!
They built that lovely memorial and dedicated a park back there! Of course some PR flack thought that's where you'd want to march...
Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity (or ass-kissing by bureaucrats).
SCC, its pathetic to march in the new location. And the finale just ends nowhere now. Whether you are Catholic, Baptist or Agnostic the fact that it ended at Holy Name invoked the "POWER" of who we are and what we represented. It was symbolic and emotional. The new ending is anti-climatic and sends the message to us members and the public that we are insignificant and forgotten.
No can do! Next year GD's will have been allowed and have been able to secure permit for Michigan Ave.
This City and Society is half-ass-backwards!
And they wonder why crime is up... stop glorying these pieces of shit in the Media, and allow the police and good citizens to take thier streets back!
Dear SCC and Other members of CPD, as a member of another police department, I congratulate you on all that you do. I also commend those men and women that wear the blue in this city. Last night I had the fortune to drive along side members of the CPD SWAT team as they made way to Belmont and Clyblourn along the kenndey. I was very proud watching my brothers in blue and gave them a salute and a thumbs up to let them know that the community is still behind them. Although my badge belongs elsewhere, I adore each member of the CPD as bretheren. Please know brothers that although morale might be low within your ranks, your brothers in blue support you and know that it is only a few who have spoiled the splenders for the rest. We all fight the same battles "Daley" and in each other we will rise.
It has become a PARADE not a memorial.You cant show off your Bullshit Medals at Memorial Park so why not Michigan Ave. Isnt this to Honor the Fallen?We forget our purpose
The march right now is just a plain waste of time and no one sees us!
I didn't bother to go, last time!
Let's go back to Michigan Ave. where tradition belongs!
The GD's will be allowed to march on Michigan ave, before the Police!
That is how fucked up Chicago has become!
S.W.A.T. = CLOUT
Dear Father Pfleger,
I am Catholic, white and female and will no longer be making any donations of my hard earned money to the Catholic Church.
Holy March Madness Batman!!!
Why don't we reverse March on Michigan Ave and walk to the Memorial? This could serve both as our annual fitness test and inspection that J-Fed wants.
18 is fantastic, How do I get assigned there. Oh I forgot I don't have any clout
I say move it back to Michigan Ave. for sure. I would like to include one more change. Have it on a Saturday and see if the Stutering Little Prick shows up. Then the command of eyes right or left could be changed to "extend middle finger."
Baseally that's all I have to say. PS: for those of you who don't know "baseally" is in the Daley dictionary replacing the word "basically."
About ten years ago, as we were lining up for the march on Michigan AV, a couple from Scotland approached my partner and myself and asked what was going on. We explained to them that this as the St. Jude march to honor our fallen officers. The husband, after looking at all the officers lined up down Michigan says with a thick Scotish accent, "Good lord, who's watching the rest of the city." When we explained that this was not the entire police force, they were amazed. This was back when I was still proud to tell strangers I was a member of C.P.D. Alot of tourists would come out of their hotel rooms to watch the parade and you felt a certain pride having people cheer as your district marched past them. Now, not so much.
st jude also belongs on a fri pm or sat at noon. no one sees us at 0800 on a sunday morning. the city allows the biycles nuts to block LSD on fri pm rush hour, the city let the GD's and the mickey cobras have their events. but why do we have to settle???
Anonymous said...
S.W.A.T. = CLOUT
5/31/2008 06:41:00 AM
If clout means excellent physical shape, expert marksman and desire to accomplish the mission, then it is worth it. SWAT is essenatil function to support officers on the street. Without political infulence, they can become a elite unit. Too much politics and ineffective leadership.
thank you, Lieutenant Ziegenhorn
get em ziggy!!
Thanks Lt. ! It took balls and we are glad that someone told it like it is, otherwise we'll just march in Jewel parking lots around the city far away from any observers
The reason St. Jude was moved, was that Cline wanted to show off what he had done.
He moved the parade.
And as for officers showing off their bullshit medals as written by Mr. Anonymous 5:43 am, you are a do nothing and don't have any.
The medals are a part of the dress uniform and are to be worn at such an event.
And in most, yes most. THOSE MEDALS WERE EARNED.
So on behalf of all those with medals, GO FUCK YOURSELF, YOU JAGOFF.
anonymous said...
Dear Father Pfleger,
I am Catholic, white and female and will no longer be making any donations of my hard earned money to the Catholic Church.
5/31/2008 06:59:00 AM
I'm amazed that people are shocked that the Catholic church will do nothing....it is just as corrupt now as it always has been... a while back, this german guy nailed a list of 95 complaints to a door.... not a whole lot has changed since then, so now is a s good a time as any to try the Lutheran church....
Dear SCC and Other members of CPD, as a member of another police department, I congratulate you on all that you do. I also commend those men and women that wear the blue in this city. Last night I had the fortune to drive along side members of the CPD SWAT team as they made way to Belmont and Clyblourn along the kenndey. I was very proud watching my brothers in blue and gave them a salute and a thumbs up to let them know that the community is still behind them. Although my badge belongs elsewhere, I adore each member of the CPD as bretheren. Please know brothers that although morale might be low within your ranks, your brothers in blue support you and know that it is only a few who have spoiled the splenders for the rest. We all fight the same battles "Daley" and in each other we will rise.
5/31/2008 05:22:00 AM
Now that's the best damm post I read all week. Thanks brother, always remember we are all brothers and sisters, and that where ever we work we are all the real police.
Rumor had it there were supposed to be snipers at the last St. Jude. There police in position on roof tops throughout the area. I kind of like the isolation from the public at the lake front. Keep St. Jude at the lake front. Parking is a lot closer, too. It could be worse, look at where the Firemen's memorial park is located. Very Shitty and hard to access without a car.
I am not a cop, but I think the St. Jude parade should be on a busy Monday right down State St. at 12 in the afternoon so everybody can see it, it should not be hidden behind Soldier field on a Saturday where NOBODY can see it
Anonymous said...
Dear Father Pfleger,
I am Catholic, white and female and will no longer be making any donations of my hard earned money to the Catholic Church.
5/31/2008 06:59:00 AM
This has to be the most ridiculous post I have ever seen.....You heard about priests stealing church funds and still you donated to them. You heard about priests raping children and still you donated money to them. You heard about the church assisting the Nazis escape from Germany after WW2 and still you donated money to them but this idiot says bad stuff about Hillary Clinton and you are offended to the point that you will no longer donate money to them.....you need help!!!
I don't care if you give them your money or not but your reasoning defies all logic!
Cardinal George and Father Phleger,
I'm a white male, Catholic Police Officer and will no longer contribute to the Catholic Church, until that time when it is straighted out of its Liberalism, priest scandals, and anti-white sermons being preached by racist priests, which you Cardinal, have done NOTHING about.
NEW ROUTE....HOW ABOUT STARTING MARCH AT THE MEMORIAL (TO PAY RESPECT), TRAVEL NORTH UP COLUMBUS DRIVE, (WHICH WOULD BE IN PUBLIC EYE BUT NOT CREATE SUCH CONGESTION AS MICHIGAN AVE) THEN MARCH TO MILLENIUM PARK BAND SHELL, WHERE OFFICERS AND FAMILY ALIKE COULD GATHER IN A BEAUTIFUL SETTING. END CEROMONY WITH BLESSING BY CLERGY, A FEW MEANINGFUL COMMENTS, AND A TRIBUTE BY EMERALD SOCIETY IN THE FRANK GEHRY PAVILLION. NOT ONLY DOES THIS PUT TO USE THE 500 MILLION DOLLAR PARK FOR A GOOD CAUSE BUT OFFERS BENIFITS TO THE PUBLIC, OUR FAMILIES, AND TO THE HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS DEPT. WE WANT TO HAVE ONE DAY WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST "FEEL" LIKE WE ARE PROUD OF THE JOB WE DO FOR THIS CITY AND ARE APPRECIATED. ASIDE FROM THE MEMORIAL, TUCKING US AWAY BEHIND SOLDIER FIELD JUST DOESN'T DO JUSTICE FOR THE SACRIFICES WE CONTINUOUSLY MAKE FOR THIS CITY AND OUR FAMILIES.
Of course!!
More people can see the J-Fed in his uniform!!
After all, he looks so good in it. (at least someone tells him that!)
S.W.A.T. = CLOUT
5/31/2008 06:41:00 AM
im in unit 141 and let me tell you clout has nothing to do with the guys on swat. all of them made it on their own. mr anonymous if you are swat material you made it period. Dont hate the player hate the game.
Who would have thought to send him a note, he would read it and possibly act on it! Well done Lt.
Anonymous said...
"The march right now is just a plain waste of time and no one sees us!
I didn't bother to go, last time!"
There where a bunch of guys who didn't go either..the fallen officers that we are marching to remember. The march isn't about you it's about the memory of those who made the ultimate sacrafice for this city and department. It should not be a "bother" you little brat it should be an honor. There are homes filled with children who would love to march with their fathers but can't, and I guess a few are filled with dickheads who can but choose not to. I agree it should be on Michigan, but unlike you buddy it's not because of my ego,it's because I believe that the fallen should be honored in a fashion that befits their sacrafice.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
S.W.A.T. = CLOUT
5/31/2008 06:41:00 AM
If clout means excellent physical shape, expert marksman and desire to accomplish the mission, then it is worth it. SWAT is essenatil function to support officers on the street. Without political infulence, they can become a elite unit. Too much politics and ineffective leadership.
5/31/2008 09:17:00 AM
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SWAT is not all CLOUT-----just ask danny mcguire jr who's fatass couldnt pass the physical. but a postition was created for him and he made merit sergeant. now he's back in SWAT (spec functions) as a sergeant. WAIT,,, nevermind i guess SWAT is clout
You nitwit coppers feel that the location of the march is soooo important. Why? 8am on a sunday and who is there to watch? Coppers families. The ones that really matter. Stop with the "I NEED the whole city to stop and watch in wonderment as I march". Guys, this march is not for you. It's for the officers killed and their families. I for one could care less if some "citizen" was there to witness the mass of blue. I will go and march anywhere and at any time to show respect to officers killed. The location is not important. The idea of the march is.
Hats off to the Lt for raising the issue. Although retired I always questioned why we marched on Sund AM. Can't begin to imagine how demoralizing it is to go down the bike path. I always felt we should march down Mich Ave. or State St. at noon time on a Friday afternoon. Just like they do in Cleveland and other places.
u mean i wont have to sit in the long parade of cars on lake shore drive to get to the parade, while waiting for the tma's to direct traffic
I won't hold my breath, but Lord willing we get some respect back.
THANK YOU LT. ZIEGENHORN!!
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE LEAD.
Sorry but I do have to agree with the poster who said St Judes has become a parade and stopped being a memorial. St Judes is a wonderful thing and great for the families of the fallen. I for one though would love to see it move back to a more solemn march in memory of those who've made the ultimate sacrifice and less of the who came-who didn't, get out of Spring Inspection that it has become. We need to concern ourselves a bit more with the purpose then the location.....
anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"The march right now is just a plain waste of time and no one sees us!
I didn't bother to go, last time!"
There where a bunch of guys who didn't go either..the fallen officers that we are marching to remember. The march isn't about you it's about the memory of those who made the ultimate sacrafice for this city and department. It should not be a "bother" you little brat it should be an honor. There are homes filled with children who would love to march with their fathers but can't, and I guess a few are filled with dickheads who can but choose not to. I agree it should be on Michigan, but unlike you buddy it's not because of my ego,it's because I believe that the fallen should be honored in a fashion that befits their sacrafice.
5/31/2008 05:10:00 PM
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Without a doubt the best post on the subject I have read.
SWAT is not all CLOUT-----just ask danny mcguire jr who's fatass couldnt pass the physical. but a postition was created for him and he made merit sergeant. now he's back in SWAT (spec functions) as a sergeant. WAIT,,, nevermind i guess SWAT is clout
Asshat,
McGuire has nothing to do with SWAT. He is not on a team nor does he wear our uniform. You shoot off your mouth and you don't know. Typical female on this job you are
Way to go MOE!!!!! Even as a Sgt. you had bigger balls than most bosses!
To Rock: Way to go, So many people do not know anything about SWAT but think everyone just walks into the unitwith a phone call and goes right to SWAT. Listen up people, If you don't keep up your skills in SWAT they will remove you. It's a tough firearms course.
quite a few guys have been side lined for not passing the tests.
And at least Danny McQuire is trying to undo what Serb messed up . Joe didn.t have his stuff together and is still blaming everyone else for his demise. Thanks Rock, whoever you are.
This was back when I was still proud to tell strangers I was a member of C.P.D.
5/31/2008 08:53:00 AM
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Isn't that the truth.
"Baseally that's all I have to say. PS: for those of you who don't know "baseally" is in the Daley dictionary replacing the word "basically."
5/31/2008 08:48:00 AM"
That might be fun, compiling a translation dictionary from English to Daley-speak.
Anonymous said...
SWAT is not all CLOUT-----just ask danny mcguire jr who's fatass couldnt pass the physical. but a postition was created for him and he made merit sergeant. now he's back in SWAT (spec functions) as a sergeant. WAIT,,, nevermind i guess SWAT is clout
Asshat,
McGuire has nothing to do with SWAT. He is not on a team nor does he wear our uniform. You shoot off your mouth and you don't know. Typical female on this job you are
5/31/2008 11:30:00 PM
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obviously you'te T-bagging jr's nuts
Anonymous said...
18 is fantastic, How do I get assigned there. Oh I forgot I don't have any clout
5/31/2008 08:42:00 AM
you dont need clout to go to 018 they have been dumping ppo's right before they get off their status to 018 for about a year now..the only thing is you will work midnights
Yes she should know about Mich Ave. I think she has had that detail or the rush street detail since she was a Sgt. I say why not march down King Drive. Now that takes Balls!!
It's funny that both units mentioned in this post, 018 & 141, are nothing but handjob associations for guys with waxed eyebrows. Keep talking yourselves up.
It's funny that both units mentioned in this post, 018 & 141, are nothing but handjob associations for guys with waxed eyebrows. Keep talking yourselves up.
6/01/2008 11:59:00 AM
Wa,wa,wa...lets see your on a beat car and im totally backlogged...been there done that...oh no wait your on tact or gang and your still superman makin pinches and other bonuses that come along...been there done that too...im in a unit that makes arrests...guess what hotshot I did that also.well speakin of 141 were not REQUIRED to make arrests but if its there then we do it. Come on down to homan and we will explain our function to you...Its a different day and age in policing when you have that lawsuit in front of you, you will be changing your tone on whos a handjob. those of you in 141 we dont need to explain ourselves we know what we were before.
I can understand the argument that the parade should be on Michigan Avenue. One factor that should be considered, however, is the feelings of the Gold Star Family members. I talked with several of them and they love the change. It gives them the opportunity to visit the memorial and show the name of their fallen loved one and hero to the young children. I believe the feelings of this special group should be considered because isn't that what it is all about?
AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN EVERYONE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE SACRIFICES OF THE POLICE AND ALLOW THE MARCH ON MICHIGAN AVE.
IT IS ABOUT TIME THE POLICE GOT TO "INCONVENIENCE" SOME SHOPPERS JUST LIKE THE ILLEGAL MEXICANS WHO GET PERMITS TO INVADE THE L0OP DURING BUSINESS HOURS
Are you kidding me? You all want to walk down Michigan Ave just to be seen by the public?
ST. JUDE IS ABOUT Honoring our Fallen Heroes and reflecting on there lives and what a better place to do that then at Memorial Park, where the names of our Officers are in stone. Yes, the parking situation is not the greatest, but deal with it, this day is not about us or who see's us, it's about our own who gave the the ultimate sacrifice. Stop and think when you bitch again about someting so stupid, anyone of the 520 officers who died would trade where they are at now to be where you are. It's one day out of the year....STOP complaining and thank God that it's not you we are marching for.
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