Thursday, July 31, 2008

City Quick Hits

Bad news all around for citizens, courtesy of Daley and his merry band of thieves:
  • The City Council agreed Wednesday to dramatically expand Chicago’s Big Brother reach — with surveillance cameras on street sweepers and a revolutionary hook-up that adds private-sector cameras to the city’s vast video network.
Ah yes, more cameras peering into every single aspect of life on the public way. Not to make you safer, oh no no no. To generate revenue. Daley doesn't care if you live or die in acid attacks, gun fire or beatings. But if you park where they put up street sweeping signs, run a red light to your doom or any other fine-able offense, Daley is going to demand he get his cut.

And how about this?
  • Motorists with just two delinquent parking or red-light tickets would face the dreaded Denver boot, under a revenue-generating plan introduced by Mayor Daley Wednesday that infuriated Chicago aldermen.

    Under the mayor's proposal, 208,273 vehicles would currently be eligible for the boot.

Aldercreatures are reacting warily to this plan. But we're pretty sure the mayor will force it through anyway. Nickels and dimes. And the reason for all this?
  • Struggling to close a $400 million budget gap, Mayor Daley on Wednesday nixed non-union pay raises, offered cash buy-outs to entice resignations and took the unprecedented step of postponing the city’s preliminary 2009 budget until Sept. 30.

    Like the mayor’s mandatory furlough plan for non-union employees, the new cuts turn up the heat on union leaders to agree to similar concessions.

The FOP responded thus:
  • Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue was asked whether rank-and-file police officers still waiting for a new contract would be willing to take a pay cut or unpaid days off.

    "If the city can convince my members of the dire necessity of such a move, the membership would be willing to listen," Donahue said. "They’d be willing to consider anything the city can convince them is necessary."

It'll be a cold day in hell when that happens. Trust us.

Poor Daley. Evidently he never studied Econ 101. Continue to raise taxes, impose fees and make it difficult to afford to live here, people will shop elsewhere, be more careful about incurring fines and finally, move out of the City. Cut taxes, pare down government and cut wasteful programs and spending and people (and businesses) will flock to the City and your tax cuts produce more revenue. It's called a Laffer Curve and it is proven to work.

In the meantime, Detroit looks across the lake and sees it's past in Chicago's near future.

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56 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I've posted earlier................."THIS CITY WILL NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER GET ANY FREE TIME FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" You Mr Mayor and Donahue can bank on it!

7/31/2008 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CITY BUDGET 2008
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7/31/2008 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TERM FUCKING LIMITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7/31/2008 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those PODS are a really useful tool for us.Just the other day i read the nutritional information off of the back of a Dorritos wrapper in the gutter. My oh my have i been eating my way to a heart attack.


SRT(*knocks on wood*)

7/31/2008 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would have been nice to hear Donahue say something to the effect of "Hell no they wouldn't take a pay raise. They are forced to live in one of the most expensive cities in the country. They are overwhelmingly underpaid compared to suburban departments. They are undermanned, outgunned, and are operationg with equipment that is years past its effective date. On top of this taxes and everyday necessites are at an all time high. If the the alderman 'deserve' a raise, the members of the Chicago Police Department certainly do."

7/31/2008 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The BEST way to save the city's monies would be possibly to cut out paying on frivolous lawsuits, quit paying for pot hole damages, and perhaps re-map the city making less wards getting rid of a few aldermen, and making the police districts bigger or smaller as need-be.

Heck cut back ten aldermen, and that should put the city right on budget!!!

7/31/2008 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what you basically saying here is that a goverment can not tax itself into prosperity?? That makes total sense to me, but then you say-
It's called a Laffer Curve and it is proven to work.

GOOGLE here I come. Gotta read up on this Laffer Curve.

Can I get an explaination of what the J-Fed Curve is? How about the Daley Curve? The Car 47 Curve? I do know what a Hanging Curve Ball is! I could hit one of those back in the day!

7/31/2008 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the yuppies are trapped due to being upside down on their realestate investments (houses and condos) and now they can't leave.
time to tighten the vice (increase taxes, fines and fees) to just under the breaking point.
they will barely notice if the beer keeps flowing and the cubbies are playing.

7/31/2008 02:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pay cut... I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO!!!

TRY LIFTING THE RESIDENCY RULE AND I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT LITTLE MAN... WHATEVER YOU WANT.

7/31/2008 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you Donahue! How about a flat out "NO!" Try doing your job protecting the blue shirts from this fucking cocksucker of a mayor instead of lining your pockets on easy street you spineless fuck. The membership would be willing to listen? For that sentence alone, I wish you a slow painful lonesome death you unskilled politician. Fuck you and your board.

7/31/2008 02:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the FOP is reading this, then get this: FUCK YOU. No way in hell will I give up three days without pay for the fucking Daley midget! FUCK you.

No contract, no work. Daley and his fuck buddies really screwed this city up and now he wants to fuck the police even more. FUCK NO!!!!!

7/31/2008 02:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For a start why not cut the City Council to 25 members. It's not like that actually do anything except suck up tax dollars and shake down people for driveway permits and tavern licenses.

7/31/2008 02:45:00 AM  
Blogger Murphy40Pct said...

Obamanomics at work.

7/31/2008 02:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SSC, we can’t take all the credit for the city’s shortfall on traffic ticket income. The Crook County Board has a large part in the revenue fall off. For those of you who haven’t been to traffic court in the last couple of months, there are now $135.00 in mandatory fees that are collected for every supervision or finding of guilty that is assessed by the county, on top of any fine. The traffic judges are giving out fines of $10.00 per ticket instead of the usual $35.00 to $55.00 per ticket. The city is collecting less per ticket while the county is making a killing. Thanks toddler. (Hey John does your brother know about this?)

7/31/2008 03:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The idea of renegotiating the contract that is in place for years is to give us the percentage increase that will allow us to keep up with the rising costs of living in this city.

Take a pay CUT? You must be out of your minds. Have Daley cut his pay, his aldercreatures pay, and waste like bodyguard details around the clock and out of state first. I'll listen to what you have to say and respond with a, "Fuck you."

Stop pissing away our tax dollars on your bullshit dreams and start taking care of the people who keep this city running. Screw your fountain facelifts, new museums (where it's not supposed to legally go, but you didn't care about Meigs either, did you) and start taking care of running the city without kickbacks to family and mobbed up friends. Why don't you have your son return the cash he made on the sewer deal?

7/31/2008 04:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is totally out of his mind. Won't show how much the deficit is? Bet after 4 yr contracts are signed it won't be as much as he thought, then he will have money to give back the raises to the non-union people, his buddies, his pals and you guys and girls will be stuck for 4 years with sh*t. Do not give in. Your life is worth more than 1%. Stay safe, a wife.

7/31/2008 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ill easily make those days back on the medical. go ahead try it! i see longers weekends in the future.

7/31/2008 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I propose a camera in every city worker's bathroom and bedroom, I believe sedition is occurring.

7/31/2008 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where the fuck did this FOP come from? What a mistake. Mark must be lining up his city job for after retirement at this point. If that asshole accepts these furlough days, we should sue him personally. The feds ought to be looking into what he's doing, too. Let em fire people...contract says they start with civilians, doesn't it? So good bye district managers...who cares?

7/31/2008 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They want us to take a pay cut and unpaid days off?? Didn't the alderthieves recently vote themselves a nice pay raise?? Mr. Daley, a big FUCK YOU!! And Dumbahoe, if you agree to this, I hope you find where Hoffa's at.

7/31/2008 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you F’n crazy, Donahue? There is no way in hell I or any other self-respecting copper is going to give any free time or anything else to this asshole mayor to help him with his budget, screw him! Here is a thought, how about you cutting your commanders pay back to P/O pay and giving Mayor Mummbles the difference to help him with the budget. And if you’re really feeling generous you can give up that take home car that we pay for and give that savings to the midget also!

Next time you see the midget be sure to ask him how his trip to China went to see the Olympics. I’m sure he paid for that out of his own packet. Yea, right!

7/31/2008 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If the city can convince my members of the dire necessity of such a move, the membership would be willing to listen," Donahue said. "They’d be willing to consider anything the city can convince them is necessary."



Yah, that was our elected Daley puppet blowing off ANY culpability for the consideration, acceptance or denial of any city proposition to cut our pay or take free time off.

What we'll see now is more of the FOP's famous bullshit in house votes where 99% of whoever bothers to show up and vote against ANY cuts or free Daley days gets told "tough shit, you lose anyway" by the puppet following.

These fuckers shit on us every day in every way and then think we're supposed to do this shit job for shit bosses for LESS fucking money just because that fuckstick Daley and his aldercronies have pissed away the citizen's tax dollars on their friend's contracts and idiotic bullshit?

FUCK YOU DALEY, never in a cold fucking day in Shitcago hell will I EVER let you piss my taxes away on your fucking friends and then take a pay cut or free days off so you can pay for it with MY fucking wages!!! You fucking arrogant ignorant FUCK!!

7/31/2008 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We go through this same "budget crisis" bullshit every bleeping year. Will it ever end??

7/31/2008 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can somebody, anybody, please wack fuckin' Don-a-whore? Why do we have a union??? This is the definition of a union: labour union is an organisation of workers who have banded together to achieve common goals in key areas such as wages, hours, and working conditions, forming a cartel of labor.

When and fucking where has our union completed any of these tasks? Why do I pay dues every fucking month? Why is it that My Union (the one that represents me) wants me to sign a piece of paper saying that what the department did to me by placing me in the B.I.S. was OK? After the city admits wrong doing, the union says well that is OK just go with it. You didn't lose anything. I
didn't????

Well, let me name a few: 1. I was kicked out of my unit (yes, I was in S.O.S., and yes I worked my ass off, and yes I was a good fucking cop) 2. I was told that I could not go to TRU 3. I was told that I could not work in a tact or gang team in not one but two different districts 4. I was told that I could not work with a PPO (who wants to, but it is money that was denied to me), and the list goes on.

After all of these things, though, the city gives me a West Side "My Bad, Office." I am then suppose to say, "Hey no problem homie. Here is my signed letter indemnifing you." R U FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!

Don-a-Whore, you are about as worthless as that West Side "My Bad." You were voted in by these same blue shirts that continuously rake over the coles and stick in our asses. Thank you F.O.P.

7/31/2008 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Welfare reform:

stop rewarding ghetto fabulous momma's to have more children while they are already on welfare.
If you go on assistance with one child then that is it. Don't keep giving more money every time an additional kid is popped out.
Taxpayers shouldn't have to support all these kids. That was not the original idea of assistance-to support generation after generation on the backs of working tax payers. You can save money right there alone.

Also there is not a justification for Jody Weis to make the amount of pay that he does. Take a pay cut. You have not worked your way up the ranks. As a citizen I don't care if you were FBI or not. Means nothing to me. Fancy suits.

These men and women of the CPD may have chosen to sign on for their job but they did not choose to get crapped on and unappreciated by a department of crooks. The biggest crook Mayor Daley.

Oh, let Meek's kids go to New Trier and let these rich spoiled kids of the North Shore and their parents that are so liberal see what their school and neighborhood will become. A crap whole. The new Englewood of the North Shore.

7/31/2008 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it about time that someone, The Better Government Association, The "News Media" or even the unions, file a freedom of information request to actually look into the city budget. Using a competent independent accounting firm? Maybe a U.S. Attorney with an accounting background?

There has to be someone that will be able to look into this repeated nonsense! Considering that it's not just the citizens of this city who are being squeezed, there are also federal dollars in that budget being used to pay for programs in that budget. Which means that they are screwing us with all of our taxes!

The nerve of the alderpeople to exempt themselves from the "furloughs", saying that, (even though they voted themselves a raise), the amount of savings, if they were furloughed, would be insignificent!!!!

7/31/2008 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey marky mark and the fucked up bunch the answer if you were a man would be "NO" but then again your in bed with the city making big money, going on many trips that we pay for with your "crew"! What are you smoking? To much alcohol? Guess your another daley "puppet"!

7/31/2008 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone seen the pictures of Mussolini after the citizens got a hold of him? Just asking.

7/31/2008 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should all be screaming, "We want the same deal the Aldercreatures get."

Nothing else will be accepted.

You always vote for a cost of living raise for yourself...Well we demand the same thing.

7/31/2008 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all i can say regarding the budget is .who messes it up. the mayor he is the man in charge. where is the money, that over a billion dollars from the skyway sell. saving it for the olympics ,he won't even be around then. take the 400 million from the skyway money let us start anew. you wil still have plenty left over

7/31/2008 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY FOP! I'm listening, and no. They can't convince me. Now do your job and reject that bullshit. Tell them we want them to sit down at the table and offer more than one percent.

Oh, yeah. Kiss my ass Daley.

7/31/2008 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'LL GIVE UP THE PAY, AS LONG AS I DON'T HAVE TO COME INTO WORK FOR THAT DAY.....

7/31/2008 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just say NO!!!

7/31/2008 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how long will the northside yuppies keep the blinders on?? Crime and taxes. Crime and taxes.

7/31/2008 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The BEST way to save the city's monies would be possibly to cut out paying on frivolous lawsuits, quit paying for pot hole damages,




How else would the mayor and aldertheives get their kick backs????

7/31/2008 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New Hires to the PD are postponed indefinitely to help close the deficit.

7/31/2008 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey FOP how come the last pres was all over the news and speaking out. Didn't he leave you any reporters numbers. simple, no pay no work and never 3 days off voluntary.

7/31/2008 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI -

My 5 years at DePaul paid off...for something:


The Laffer curve is used to illustrate the concept of "taxable income elasticity", which is the idea that government can maximize tax revenue by setting tax rates at an optimum point and that neither a 0% tax rate, nor a 100% tax rate, will generate government revenue.

The curve was popularized by Arthur Laffer (b. 1940) and described how increasing taxation past a certain point might lower revenue and vice versa.

7/31/2008 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you get the unit reps to start doing some union work in the districts. Please draft up a petition for those who are willing to take a pay cut &/or free time off and have it signed & sent to FOP! Whatever happened to those days?
We have unit/watch reps that don't do shit. The only way we can be heard is if they do their job and let the union know how the rank & file feel about things.
You should be doing petitions for everything that is up for contract negotiations, eliminating 6th day, residency, pay increase, health benefits etc...
Do something reps!

7/31/2008 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ECONOMICS
Q. How do you attract businesses that create good jobs and who pay substantial fees and taxes?

A. Offer a well-educated group of prospective employees who want to work.
B. Create a safe place for a business to operate.
C. Lower the tax rates to make it more profitable to do business. Results: Lower taxes promotes capital investment and ends up resulting in higher overall tax revenue. Businesses, employment and income grows.

OBAMANOMICS
A. Create a group who feels entitled to free housing, free food, free transportation and free education.
B. Increase dependence on government by disarming citizens.
C. Raise taxes on "the rich" to pay for the above entitlements. The rich is anyone not a member of group A.
Results: Businesses close, cities die, unemployment skyrockets, and dependence on government rises.

7/31/2008 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would have been nice to hear Donahue say something to the effect of "Hell no they wouldn't take a pay raise ...

---------------------------------------
Um? I think you mean pay cut.

7/31/2008 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How's this for and idea? Instead of any Coppers taking unpaid days off, how about the city Cancelling the Bud Parade, and any other thug fests that will require a shit load of over time be paid out......

7/31/2008 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Donahue says the colective we are willing to listen to Daley.

WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING, for 13 months and I haven't heard anything. Oh yes I did hear a few things. 450 million for mill. park. 100 million for the chillens museum. I almost forgot 15 BILLION for O'Hare. 8 Million for some goofy crosswalk acorss the river that was doubled from 4 million.
Eddie Burke could pay for this himself with his 8 million in funds that he's hiding.
If this hillbilly Supt. thinks "I'll just give these dumb ignorant un-educated coppers SUVs and a few rifles they will be happy little idiots and they will play cops and robbers again, accept a 1 percent pay raise and all will be fine".

To Mr. Supt., I have my own SUV and more rifles that you could give me. Give me the raise and benifits I deserve, Let me go back to being a policeman, stop your nervous twitch evey time I stop for a drink, and yes, sometimes I have to punch out an asshole because some people are assholes. Oh yes, stop promoting kindergarden boys and girls. Someone should have an idea what they are doing before you put idiots up there to supervise men. This is a 24 hour a day job and it last 7 days a week, not like your previous 9-5 weekends off and taking the comuter to "Naperville" every night.

7/31/2008 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While Chicago burns...

Daley off to China for Olympics
July 31, 2008
(AP) — When Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley heads to China next week for the Olympics, he wants to see more than the sporting events and lavish opening ceremony.

Daley is especially interested in checking out Beijing's public transportation to pick up any tips Chicago might use to refine its bid for the 2016 Summer Games.

"That's the key, how you move people in and out of different facilities," Daley told The Associated Press in an interview in his City Hall office....

7/31/2008 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey just a thought but if they have to lay off civilian employees first, how many of them have less seniority than j-fed? Maybe this is mayor midget's way of getting rid of him.

7/31/2008 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some simple advice: Don't park illegally. Park in garages: Much cheaper than a $75.00 pop. It costs the City much more than you pay in taxes and fees for you to drive your car. Someone has to maintain the infrastructure. Move to Central Illinois where it is a ghost town and nobody has any jobs. You can drive your car down there without fear of a ticket.

By the way, buy using the f-word and personally attacking Daly, you show your ignorance.

7/31/2008 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Grand Central Tom said...

TALK ABOUT ARROGANT!!!

The Scum Times today published the amount of money each Alderasshole had in their campaign funds. None other than Eddie Burke led the field with a reported $8 Million dollars in four separate funds.

Lets see if I have this right - an Alderman who sent threatening letters to himself - one who has around the clock bodyguard detail - one who has a city provided car (new one every two years - too bad beat man in 011 riding around in a 145,000 pool junk) - one who has nothing more to add to society than banning goose liver crap that only assholes like him would eat anyway - has 8 million dollars available to him.

Shitty of Chicago at its best. The thing that bugs me about this man is how he portrays himself to be an ex-police officer. Never was anything more than another Chicago birth rite clout baby.

Memo to Eddie - get rid of your suck ass coppers/personal valets - buy your own car and gas - stop claiming to be one of us.

I'm done.

7/31/2008 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, buy using the f-word and personally attacking Daly, you show your ignorance.
7/31/2008 04:09:00 PM

Um, speaking of ignorance, you misspelled "buy" (by) and Daly (Daley).

7/31/2008 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some simple advice: Don't park illegally. Park in garages: Much cheaper than a $75.00 pop. It costs the City much more than you pay in taxes and fees for you to drive your car. Someone has to maintain the infrastructure. Move to Central Illinois where it is a ghost town and nobody has any jobs. You can drive your car down there without fear of a ticket.

By the way, buy using the f-word and personally attacking Daly, you show your ignorance.

7/31/2008 04:09:00 PM

_________________________________

And by spelling "by" b-u-y, you show your intelligence?

Oh, and if you meant the mayor, THAT'S spelled "D-a-l-e-y".

Twit.

7/31/2008 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just remember this when you see POOKIE driving around with the fake temp plate,no city sticker,no insurance,no license and a warrant.Being RESPONSIBLE IS THE BIGGEST TAX IN THIS CITY.No revenue is the ONLY WAY the city will deal with us.They want anarchy,we'll give them anarchy.

7/31/2008 09:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IS THIS THE BEGINNING OF A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT...AND THE END OF THE UNITED STATES?


WHAT A DISGRACE!!!
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:18:58 -0700

Obama The Patriot - Removes American Flag From His Plane

The Patriot Room
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:11:07 AM by Bill Dupray

Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. And as part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail...
What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with it with a symbol of himself...


Please forward this on if you're not ashamed of your country or it's flag & think this is a disgrace!
!

7/31/2008 10:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, buy using the f-word and personally attacking Daly, you show your ignorance.

Then call me ig'nant.

Fuck that lying, corrupt, theiving, stuttering, dumb, short, fat, greasy criminal Daley.

8/01/2008 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"By the way, buy using the f-word and personally attacking Daly, you show your ignorance.

Then call me ig'nant.

Fuck that lying, corrupt, theiving, stuttering, dumb, short, fat, greasy criminal Daley.

8/01/2008 10:50:00 AM"



So, using the 'f-word', (presumably meaning the word 'fuck', in all it's various forms), leads the first poster quoted to conclude that the poster he/she criticized is ignorant?


Since when is an accurate description of anything or anyone ignorant or an indicator of ignorance?


Other than in the above referenced poster's ignorant perspective?


If you can't take the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.

8/01/2008 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barack Obama Bin-Laden says---

Yes, of course I removed the sickening American flag from my plane. Soon, instead of the special Obama insignia, the crescent moon will be proudly displayed. Allah will be pleased.

Change you better believe in.

8/02/2008 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, using the 'f-word', (presumably meaning the word 'fuck', in all it's various forms), leads the first poster quoted to conclude that the poster he/she criticized is ignorant?

Think you're jumping to conclusions about whether 'f-word' means 'fuck'. It probably means 'festus'.

8/03/2008 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"8/03/2008 09:51:00 AM"


You give me too much credit.

8/09/2008 12:58:00 PM  

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