Got Your Back?
- Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis says as long as the actions of his police officers are reasonable, he'll be there for them. WBBM'S Jennifer O'Neill asked Weis about his perceived image problem among some of the rank-and-file and a feeling by some that he might not have their back, as he addresses a recent increase in violence five months into the job.
Which (as has been stated here, elsewhere and by people far wiser than we) is exactly when we don't need a supervisor to have our backs. We got a letter along with this story quote from an anonymous copper:
- I don't need a boss when I'm right. I barely need a boss when I'm 99% right. I need a boss who's willing to stick it out there on the line and defend me when I'm 93 or 95% right and my intentions were good. I'm not looking for absolution for sins not yet committed. I'm looking to keep my house and my car and my job when some bloodsucker comes looking for a big payout because I did what cops have done for generations - kept decent people safe from assholes.
We tend to agree. The world isn't all black and white - there are a lot of gray areas out there. Bosses understand that. J-Fed, being a supervisor/manager, obviously does not.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
133 Comments:
That is why a reasonable person answers jobs, backs up each other, writes reports & goes home after 8hrs.....
I understand totally police work has a lot more gray than black and white. You fly by the seat of your pants most of the time unlike a FED who rarely has to fly by the seat of their pants. FEDS can plan for weeks and request what they need to achieve their goal and almost 99% of the time stay out of the gray area. Working police officers may have a few minutes, poor equipment and no back up on certain jobs that occur daily if not multiple times a day. Many times these police officers have to tread in the gray area more often than not under extreme circumstances. JFED will never get it because he only sees black and white. Da Mayo will never get it because he is arrogant and does really not care about the police or really anyone in general if you you are of no importance.
A Supe who wears a white shirt but bleeds blue and
will always be a patrolman thru and thru.
To Late Jody! Ive learned from the other coppers that have got sent down the river. I am not doing anything other than answer my calls! Mayor mnumbles now has the department he always wanted.
Ahhhh Do I miss the old days of refusing jobs- Remember when caps started? Beat Integrity?
Squad thats not my beat
Squad thats not my sector
Squad What about beat integrity?
Why do we even bother with beats?
Todays sheets in my district showed 3 beats cars downed. The wagon and 2 cars were 10-4.
This is pathetic. Ive attended to many Police funerals, and I dont want to go to anymore. Seriously Doffyn, Fountain, Strouse, Knight, Ceriale and others all testaments to the Citys gun laws at work.
Ignorance is bliss- Citizens of Chicago please wake-up soon
No SCC, he doesn't and will never understand that b/c he's never been the Police. And especially never had to deal with the shit we have to deal with every day. He has no clue what it's like to chase guys with guns around corners, get shot at, get beat up, all while trying to protect people and attempt to do good. Sometimes things just don't go text book, and exactly as the 1000's of general orders state. You sometimes need to improvise to save your life, or to let these shitbags know that you mean business and they can't walk all over you.
No matter what anyone says, you cannot police exactly according to those general orders. It's impossible. There's heat of the moments and sometimes emotions and adrenaline run so high that things just happen. That's when we need him to have our back!
When caught on tape giving someone a smack, let the public know that he just took a shot a police officer or whatever the situation and that's why he got hit. It's such a shame that it's not like that anymore and prob never will be again.
More scams in patrol. Good thing some idiot came up with back to the streets for the inside people because that really helped in 010 on 3rd watch. 1 Sgt and 2 PO's are now being detailed off the watch to headquarters so they can go work back to the street and come in with some sort of numbers while the back to the street police go out as some call number that is not part of the watch and doesn't have to respond to radio calls. Who knows how many other districts had to detail working PO's to back to the streets from their watch also to pad numbers?
More smoke and mirrors... Meanwhile now they have been denying people time off again in 010 because of this bullshit...and they have been averaging 7/9 cars down a night. Whats up with the lawsuit FOP?
And then the Commnander has the nerve (i'm sure ordered by Supt) to come to roll call and preach how the department has your back, PLEASE!!! DO AGGRESIVE WORK!!!
Well commander if you have our back get all those detailed people back into 010 to man the cars. Maybe crime would go back down. Last time I checked if I wanted to be agressive and do work I get jobs non-stop all night anyways. What that ain't work? That ain't aggressive? Responding to my hour old calls as soon as I get them knocking out paper promptly and returing to service for another one.
You and the other bosses have to be aggressive and find people to work the pre-determined man power needs of the districts. That would be the beat cars/rapids/wagons. ( and not 99) Until those are filled every night you should not even have to be heard from complaining about how aggressive or not we are. You and the rest off the inside people (back to steets clouters) should be filling those beat cars/ rapids/ wagons. Or I forgot you guys are above that kind of aggressive work cause in your eyes that aint aggressive work.
The days of real bosses are long gone. Fat Phil politicized the CPD beyond recognition and tossed aside some of the best talent we had to appease all of his cronies.
The real question is why did Mayor Richard M. Daley permit this?
J-Fed is the biggest liar ever! His actions speak louder than words and his actions toward Cozzie showed us what he will do behind our backs! What this department has become is truely sad. How can we respect a leader who was never a Chicago Police Officer or any type of police officer? This is so simple, it's a no-brainer! He wears the uniform of many who died wearing it and that is wrong! Wear a fucking suit J-Fed!We all know bosses will never back us because they are out for themselves and always will be. Of course they want us to be aggressive because it's about them and their numbers. Our hard work only makes them look good and they know if we screw up they are off all paper and have total seperation from us. Hell, when we miss court or some other small infraction the bosses have the paper done immediately with-in days and put it in our file. But if we do something good they may get around to putting it in our file in a year or so if at all! Sometimes they even say, "it's your job."
It's no concern to them if we are out of a contract once again as long as they keep their spot and bring in the nice check. Unfortunately the damage done to this department can not be reparied. No trust, poor leadership, no backing, double standards, back stabbing, lies, clout, corrupt politicians and much much more! Oh, and once again no contract for over one year now. They think the police are slowing down now. Just wait til the city screws us again on our next contract. That's whenever they feel we're important enough to give us one! Get ready guys their going to give us less and take more away. This will be the worst contract ever! How could even a stupid person expect us to be motivated?
i was catching up on my daily bullitens today when i saw a copy of THE ADVOCATE.
o.k. WTF ?
THE ADVOCATE appearently advocates the harshest puneshment of police who embibe at all.
it occurred to me, while reading this document, that police in chicago are second class citizens.
we have rules regulating where we can live, who we can associate with, our off duty conduct and how much we can drink.
i am o.k. with some of this......just let me live where i want......I CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE IN THIS CITY !!!!!!!!!!!
J-Fed should consult his "Think Tank" suckholes what to do about morale. I'm sure they got his back!
When do we start passing out blows for pistols? To all the civilians out there,blows are heroin packets.
Chicago is truly "Out of Control":
CHICAGO -- A Chicago liquor store owner is offering $125 to any person who turns over a gun to city police.
Raymond Figueroa says he believes he has to raise consciousness.
The owner of La Borinquena says his message might look like a contradiction because he runs a liquor store.
But the 60-year-old former alderman says he wants people to keep the community safe. He's offering the money to any person who turns over a gun to police in the city's 14th district.
HI! I'm JFED, your fair weather friend! When you're doing good, I've got your back one hundred percent. When you screw up, I'll have your ass. Now go be aggressive so I can have your ass. That way I can hang you and tell Shortshanks that I'm worth my salary and doing what I was hired to do in the first place.
Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis says as long as the actions of his police officers are reasonable, he'll be there for them.
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WE DON'T NEED YOUR F-ING HELP IF WE ARE IN THE RIGHT!!!
Scc, have you seen "The Advocate" yet?? It is a newsletter from Weis, Burst and Skahill detailing the Rules and Regs and how they are going to shove it up our a$$. It definately deserves it's own thread!!
How does any managerial house mouse knwo what is reasonable? Circumstances and situations dictate police response. Look at how the boys in blue responded in Peoria when the savages acted up,they didn't allow a Taste of Chicago fiasco to occur.
The Revuns wouldn't stand for the real police response here though,too bad,so sad...
Keep stripping,suspending and firing working coppers...
All the bosses have your back,to the wall...
How many more coppers will be unjustly stripped,suspended,tarred and feathered by the media and fired until Lady Justice Reigns???
Even when you are 100% right and there is clout involved they will fire you.
There once was a very corpulent Superintendent that had your back with two daggers inserted into it if you questioned him or his meritoriously appointed regime.
Maybe they can incorporate the ISP and the NG into the CPD to fillin the void of 3,000+ missing officers???
At least the ISP and the National Guard will be familiar with Chicago when it burns during the Obama '08 Riots.
Didn't Fat Phil say he had Sgt Clifford's back when he stopped the Rev???
A few days later he was dry humping and hugging the Revun to death. Imagine all 375lbs sqeezing up on you in his Make Belief Church.
This shit only happens in Chicago and would be good material for a satirical comedy.
The coverup is on with the Ricky Hendon grants,the media spin machine is in full effect. The Tribune is paying homage to the political spinmeisters again.
They wonder why people don't purchase their rags anylonger...
I can't wait until the political action committee launches 50 city workers in each ward for alderman. Grass roots at its best.
The Advocate has been around for years, probably a decade by now. Catch up with the times whippersnappers.
More smoke and mirrors... Meanwhile now they have been denying people time off again in 010 because of this bullshit...and they have been averaging 7/9 cars down a night. Whats up with the lawsuit FOP?
We need manpower in TRU for the dog and pony show. Lets all go there, ducks, free time
That is precisely why many coppers have slowed down. We don't need a Supt who is there for us only when we are being 100% correct and "reasonable"
We need someone who will cover us when we are slightly less than 100% correct and a bit unreasonable. That is why CPD born and bred Supt. are preferred, they understand, at least, that police work in Chicago is an inexact science requiring one to occasionally to get one's hands dirty.
This is not FBI investigatory work, this is rough and tumble policing in the big city and occasionally people need to be pushed around a bit. that is just the way it is.
This has always been the unwritten rule. Most Supt's know when this line has been crossed, they know because most have spent years doing the job right there along side us. That is the only way to know.
Jody wants us to adhere exactly to the rules and always be reasonable, that is what he will get. Show me one place in the General Orders or Rules and Regs where it says anything at all about being aggressive. It doesn't. Nowhere does it say aggressive.
This is what you get J-Fed, we now follow the rules, you asked for it, you got it. We don't trust you, period. We will get our own backs thank you very much. Enjoy your stay here. Then around the time our contract is settled or slightly later you can pack your bags and get the fuck out.
Didnt stupidintendent terry have our backs too? Trouble is, even if its true, he and the others cant control the whore media who are pimping for the lawyers who are going to bring the civil case to court years later. Like they did for that football hero who got killed(justifiably) on the expressway after ramming cars and resisting arrest.
Holy kick em' untill it hurts Batman!!!
This is the first time that I'm aware of the media ever asking this type of question to a Chicago Superintendent of Police.
J-Clown ain't misbehavin' in the office or in the gym. So he and the public "media" thinks police work is clean, spotless, and professional.
Sorry to dampen your belief people. Humans are by far the most dangerous creatures to walk the earth. Unless you have seen this human cruelty up close with your very own eyes with a nose in it you really don't know why that uniform officer is taking care of business.
When you see a copper beating up on an idiot. Your first reaction should be that the "idiot" must be a real asshole to get his ass kicked by that nice policeman.
If you think I am full of shit! Eliminate the entire criminal justice system in the country and free all the inmates! It would be interesting to see if da mayor will ask for the National Guard?
The Advocate is actually very informative and entertaining. It merely outlines some of the idiots we have on this job. Not paying parking tickets or falsifying reports will always get you in trouble. Having cocaine in your house will get you fired, providing info to your gangbanger boyfriend will get you fired and now getting drunk will get you fired. Thanks Anthony Abbatte!!
Most of the department rules make sense but the most recent article about drinking and being under the influence is bullshit! The FOP should be fighting the city's new discipline proposals tooth and nail otherwise everyone on the CPD will be treated like they are drinking underage.
"The days of real bosses are long gone. Fat Phil politicized the CPD beyond recognition and tossed aside some of the best talent we had to appease all of his cronies.
The real question is why did Mayor Richard M. Daley permit this?
7/22/2008 01:24:00 AM"
Are you really asking that question? Did you take stupid pills or where you born a moron?
There isn't a move made in this department w/o the Runts final approval. The politicization of the Department to the degree it is today is wholly the working of the Micromanaging Mental Midget
The commander in 010 wants names of guys screwed over by the department for doing their jobs. He says whenever he asks nobody gives him a name. So that is just lies he says the department has your back.
Please give him some names.
Anonymous said...
Scc, have you seen "The Advocate" yet?? It is a newsletter from Weis, Burst and Skahill detailing the Rules and Regs and how they are going to shove it up our a$$. It definately deserves it's own thread!!
7/22/2008 03:51:00 AM
30 days for not calling the medical section? I know a guy who is taking a day (from old rule) for not calling because he was incapacitated in the hospital. He wrote sevetral to from's and they still gave him the day.
The department really has your back.
Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis says as long as the actions of his police officers are reasonable, he'll be there for them.
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WE DON'T NEED YOUR F-ING HELP IF WE ARE IN THE RIGHT!!!
7/22/2008 03:47:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc, have you seen "The Advocate" yet?? It is a newsletter from Weis, Burst and Skahill detailing the Rules and Regs and how they are going to shove it up our a$$. It definately deserves it's own thread!!
7/22/2008 03:51:00 AM
I love the part where it says intoxicated on or off duty doesn't have to be .08! IT CAN BE WHAT EVER THEY SAY IT IS
Off topic.
I hear all district managers postitions are being elimnated.
Any truth?
"his shit only happens in Chicago and would be good material for a satirical comedy.
7/22/2008 05:15:00 AM"
You mean a 'black comedy'?
"The real question is why did Mayor Richard M. Daley permit this?
7/22/2008 01:24:00 AM"
Give Burge a couple of hours alone with daley, then you'll have the answers to all of your questions.
Who has jfed's back ? Seems like the only one fucking up lately is him. He should take time or get sparred for taste, homoicide and agg batt increase. Than he dumps half his work load but still gets full pay. Cozzi slapped a drunk and went through hell . The ceo's screw up at taste got someone killed. Im aggressive all right, aggressive about taking care of my family and getting my pension.
WE DON'T NEED YOUR F-ING HELP IF WE ARE IN THE RIGHT!!!
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and if you are not in the right?
See where the fed went to "question" some guy in schiller park regarding minority contracts. For no reason he begins hitting the FBI agent. It was broken up by bystanders who had to take the guy off the agent.
Hey at least this agent got a small taste of what we deal with unlike Jfed and Bristy boy.
bad guy fights with police, trr is done, w/c interviews offender, offender says "police beat me" w/c says to sergeant "initiate a cr#" those are the rules, are those rules changed?
Anonymous said...
J-Fed is the biggest liar ever! His actions speak louder than words and his actions toward Cozzie showed us what he will do behind our backs! What this department has become is truely sad. How can we respect a leader who was never a Chicago Police Officer or any type of police officer? This is so simple, it's a no-brainer! He wears the uniform of many who died wearing
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Very nicely written and said!
Anonymous said...
HI! I'm JFED, your fair weather friend! When you're doing good, I've got your back one hundred percent. When you screw up, I'll have your ass. Now go be aggressive so I can have your ass. That way I can hang you and tell Shortshanks that I'm worth my salary and doing what I was hired to do in the first place.
7/22/2008 03:25:00 AM
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LOL! So god damn ture its funny. He knows it too, mumbles and Fed know.... we quit
L. G. 017 30 pending he got stripped because he bitch slapped that street peice of shit at target that had a razor in his pocket.
I would a beat that fucker unconcious. Thats why I dont do Police work. When I was a kid if the Police said leave I ran. I was scared of them and respected them.
Now I wont even lay a hand on anybody. I fear if someone fights me and and I defend myself I will get jammed. Answer your calls and thats it. They cant do a damn thing to you if you have a set a balls and know how to play the game back. Stand up for yourself and once they counsel you for activity put in writing asking in writing to be shown how they are basing this lack of activity.
Then ask to be coached daily, weekly and monthly on how much activity is expected and how they will set you up for success in achieving those daily numbers.
I guarantee they will never bother you again!
HAHAHAHA...Great job by all! Answer those calls, write paper, be professional, back up fellow officers, and go home safely.
SPREAD THE WORD!
J-FED had my back,......when he put a knife into it. The only back any boss is interested in is your backside when they try to stick it in your ass and break it off.
GRAND CROSSING GUNSLINGER
See COPS SOUND OFF (NORTHLAKE)
Chief Koletsos who fucks his Officers........
Blue Shirt
The only thing being hardworking and aggressive ever got me was midnights in 003............hey boss, BLOW ME!
GRAND CROSSING GUNSLINGER
mr j-fed sure had bill cozzi's back. and to all you hard chargers out there who think that it can never happen to you-- wake up-- you could be next in line for j-fed and his 200 percent bs when you catch a bad beef. the only back j-fed has is his own. why are all the recommended suspensions being sent up from ops and iad to the sup's office being added onto. simple, because he's got your back-- like a shark chewing on a piece of bloody meat.
FEDS can plan for weeks and request what they need to achieve their goal and almost 99% of the time stay out of the gray area. Working police officers may have a few minutes, poor equipment and no back up on certain jobs that occur daily if not multiple times a day.
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FEDS fight the battles they want to fight. Cops fight the battles that need fighting.
The white shirts have completely ruined this dept. They are to blame for the low morale and low activity.
This shit only happens in Chicago and would be good material for a satirical comedy.
Something along the lines of "The Office" would be perfect!
SCC can you please post what is being said in this "ADVOCATE" I'm on furlough and would love to know. Besides I think it would be great for all of us to know. We need to be educated on anything J-Fed is doing so we can watch our own backs. Thanks
I will never trust a fed turn cop. he doesnt know anything and never will. im in for a long and rough ride...only two years on...28 more to go.
He did say, as long as the police officers actions are REASONABLE... Which to me means 93% or 95%, or even 75% right per general order but the necessary thing to do at the time to restore order or protect a citizen (or himself).
Anonymous said...
The Advocate has been around for years, probably a decade by now. Catch up with the times whippersnappers.
7/22/2008 06:57:00 AM
hmmmm maybe no Supe before was dumb enough to distribute it out to the districts.
"The Box Chevy Phantom" says...
Hmmmm... "Reasonable actions"?
Is that the cloak the feeb is wrapping himself in now? Is he saying that he won't hurt a hard working police officer if that officer's actions were reasonable?
Reason by whose standards? Typical feeb fuckery advanced as some semblance of coherent policy. Police work by it's very nature (in a socialist setting such as ours) flies in the face of reason.
Unlike our federal counterparts, we don't have the luxury of lengthy planning and legal consultation when we roll up on these very dynamic and fluid situations on the streets of the West & South Sides. Dynamic and fluid when introduced to the belt driven circular cooling device tends to be on everyone in close proximity. (making sense yet?)
If my partner and I on-view a goblin shooting a group of ghouls with a fully automatic weapon and attempt to flee on foot, would I be reasonable (given the totality) in restraining my partner from giving chase on foot and running the goblin over with the department vehicle, thus causing his demise? Dead ghouls? Yes. Dead goblin? Very yes. Recovered weapon? Retrieved from the goblin's grasp after the car is jacked up. Injured police officers? Absolutely not and worth the ink on the paper in my opinion. But will my actions be viewed as "reasonable" according to the head feeb? In short, no. What if the alternate scenario played out and myself or partner pursued on foot and one or both of us were injured or killed in the sure to ensue gunfight? Well, that's ok if we are to follow the feebs thinking on what is reasonable. Policemen are injured or dead but he has their back.
This poor excuse for a leader apparently never encountered life or institutional adversity and has never gone toe to toe with anyone who would rather flee or kill (when cornered) than be returned to incarceration or face legally enacted sanction for breaching his contract with society. But he has the luxury in hindsight to review a police officer's actions and determine whether it is politically expedient to have an officer's back... Mr. Weis, we don't NEED YOU when we're %75 to %100 right... it's when we MUST MAKE A PLAY on a 50/50 that we need backing... Oh nevermind, that's a finely nuanced shade of gray you're unable/unwilling to see...
As it is, there is no Police Officer in this city who is in their right mind willing to risk their homes, families, livelihood or FREEDOM because you and your exempt members are begging us to "be aggressive". You sir have set the tone as you are here to wage open warfare against the rank and file of this department. Being aggressive will get police officers suspended, stripped and imprisoned on a whim. I won't risk ANYTHING of mine for you, this department or this city. Anyone who does is properly marked as a fool and deserves what you will no doubt give them.
We will continue to answer calls, back one another up, document crimes and fulfill our role as preliminary investigators and such but getting in people's faces, doing dispersals and enforcing public peace laws without a complianant or in violation of constitutional rights or arrests without a signed complaint by a citizen? You and your exempts can cease with all the "rah-rah i got your back, take back the streets" noise... It's annoying, an insult and an affront to the fine men and women who have sweated, cried and died in this uniform... You sir are on your own.
My apologies, SCC...
God Bless the blue shirts in Patrol... too few, led by the incompetent, expected to do the impossible for too little, for the ungrateful...
Anonymous said...
At least the ISP and the National Guard will be familiar with Chicago when it burns during the Obama '08 Riots.
7/22/2008 05:01:00 AM
Who cares about Nov 08 after election? If riots occur, why worry? Give it a break.
The days of real bosses are long gone. Fat Phil politicized the CPD beyond recognition and tossed aside some of the best talent we had to appease all of his cronies.
The real question is why did Mayor Richard M. Daley permit this?
Are you smoking crack? Cline put people in place he trusted(which every Supe does and always did)(except First Dep, which is the Mayors pick) all the people launched by Weis and Petersen were Cline people, who had the ecperience to get things done. Now we are in dire straits and they wonder why? lol it's a joke that will only get funnier..
Didn't Fat Phil say he had Sgt Clifford's back when he stopped the Rev???
A few days later he was dry humping and hugging the Revun to death. Imagine all 375lbs sqeezing up on you in his Make Belief Church.
This shit only happens in Chicago and would be good material for a satirical comedy.
Nohting happened to Clifford if you followed it, Cline played the game. Clifford got a reprimand at the worst(if he even got that.)Cline went out his way to try and help the working copper, maybe too much in some instances...
The advocate has been around for years
in the last 10 yrs the CPD has been without a contract for 6 yrs. Rumors have it that the stuttering midget doesn't want to settle on a contract before the olympics are decided?? i feel the ill. it may be "the blue flu?" Golly i hope not. just need a date.
just reviewed the contract negotiations on the FOP website and didn t see anything about time and a half to work rdo so we can get an occasional day off on a summer weekend. i ve become tired of being denied because of man power needs. dispatchers get it and we deserve it. Also, i'm so glad about the lawsuit we won stating that it wasn t the police officers' duty to ensure adaquate manpower on the street only to find out that it is. fuck 'em all.
ok, lets give jfed the benefit of doubt.....lets assume that he and all other bosses 'have our backs' (work with me here lol). now officers are out there being aggressive. BUT..dont forget what the city is offering for our raise for the first year......1%.
If any street cop believes that J-Fed will be there for you when the going gets tough and the beef comes in, I have oil well and gold mine stock to sell you.
Did anyone see Channel 7's interview at the COPS Cycle Ride this past weekend of Cline. The reporter asked him if he thought the new Superintendant was doing a great job, his answer was, "The Chicago Police Department is doing a great job."
NEWS FLASH.....
That is why a reasonable person answers jobs, backs up each other, writes reports & goes home after 8hrs.....
This is precisely all you are required to do. By doing the above you place your life in harms way 100% of the time and still do your job 100% of the time. The officers whom take it upon themselves to go above and beyond do so at their own peril!!
P.S. A fed is a fed is a fed, even if he wears a different costume, the rational, thinking and perceptions do no change.
Guys like Special K don't have to worry. CAUSE J-FED GOT HIS BACK!!!!
Thats why he can keep fucking up.
Special K= This is his exact title Patrolman, Sgt. Deputy Chief James Keating.
Sounds more like a military position. Then a position on CPD!!
"I don't need a boss when I'm right. I barely need a boss when I'm 99% right. I need a boss who's willing to stick it out there on the line and defend me when I'm 93 or 95% right and my intentions were good"
I say this all the fucking time when these two-bit fucking clout baby Sgts give that speal!!!!
Great fucking way of puttting it. IF I'M RIGHT, WHY THE FUCK WOULD I NEED YOU TO BACK ME????
isnt this the sup that said there is only right and wrong, no gray area, and now hes saying that hes got our back if we are reasonable, hes giot to make his mind up about that gray area, because with him there is only black and white
Great letter whoever wrote it.
Wish he would have talked about what uncivilized creatures some of the 'people' are.
So fucking easy to second guess and pass judgement. But get your ass out there and work a beat car for a weekend (nights) in 007, 011 or 015.
This video is the same kind of shit dude was doing at the Taste to us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLgtNPvQtCE
Being a PPO, I wonder how I could deal with something like this without getting fired?
To any Civil Rights attorneys reading this blog I have a question. How much can a employer infringe on a employees constitutional rights and civil liberties as part of employment? Can an employee sue?
I don't mind dictating rules of conduct while I am at work but once I am off the clock get your nose out of my personal life.
had a dope arrest, was in the processing room, The processing room is small, one table, the prisoner is on a bench a few feet away. a disturbance was outside the door, I stepped to the door to ensure the police were ok, as i stepped away my prisoner grabbed the dope from the table, yes he was handcuffed, and swallowed it. we took the prisoner to the hospital to try and get the dope out but he refused treatment. went to the 3rd watch w/c, told him, the paperwork was done. he had us put it in the report, and said he didn't see anywrong doing only bad judgement so there was no need for cr#. here is a guy who used his judgement and obviously his balls and looked out for us. the easy way out would of been to get the cr# and let us deal with it, but he stepped up, and this from a new lt whom i had never met and actually from a different watch. This is the kind of boss we need when we make an honest mistake.
Cozzi's back has Jody's size 6 all over it
All you jerk offs on here who cry about the scum of society who sponge off our tax dollars and how we have to protect them all have this sick sense of entitlement. You either knew what you were getting into when came on this job, or you are incredibly stupid. I understand that the brass is shoving it up a lot of asses to protect their own asses, but what do you expect when you work a government job. I'll say what you all say to the people who don't like the laws of our country. If you don't like it, leave. Get a new job. Go to college and become another Gordon fucking Gecko and when you lose your shirt you will realize how good you had it.
I am all for our union when they work for the good of all of us, not the good of the union reps. I also know that there are plenty of times coppers have been screwed for doing their job. But don't act like this is all Wies and the people he put in charge. If there was internet access in the late 70s and early 80s, this same shit would have been spewed back then. This shit has been going on forever.
Now he finally got what he wanted by getting rid of D/C Chasen. Every boss that had a clue is gone. Chasen night have had his quirks, but he was decent and knew what he was doing. Now all we have is the blind leading the blind.
How many of the "Meritoriously promoted" officers were aggressive? From what I have seen, NONE. They took no risk at all, sitting behind a desk or driving someone around until their turn came.Never saw one in felony court, never seen them at 26th st., yet now they wear stripes and are our supervisors. How many aggressive officers will be stripped? Guys that actually risk their lives working. Now ask yourself, Have I ever seen a Cloutbaby get stripped? The answer is a resounding NO.
The only person who has my back is my partner..*looks at sheets* who went to days huh....hmmm now i dont know what to think...
SRT
i was catching up on my daily bullitens today when i saw a copy of THE ADVOCATE.
o.k. WTF ?
THE ADVOCATE appearently advocates the harshest puneshment of police who embibe at all.
it occurred to me, while reading this document, that police in chicago are second class citizens.
we have rules regulating where we can live, who we can associate with, our off duty conduct and how much we can drink.
i am o.k. with some of this......just let me live where i want......I CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE IN THIS CITY !!!!!!!!!!!
7/22/2008 01:54:00 AM
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I'm with you except I'm not ok with any of the rules because none of them apply to anyone else in the country. What would Jesse and the ACLU say if the government told anyone where they need to live. Police employees are second class citizens and the violations do not stop at residency rules. Probable cause, due process and objective investigations do not apply to us as well.
However, as I always say, Daley almost has his dream come true; pacifist police letting the democrats run the city and driving out all those who will never vote for him. Everything done is to cultivate votes.
Wies has our backs yeah right. He will give you a nice shove in the back, as the bus is approaching to make the media and politicans happy. Daley and the city council are to blame for the rise in the crime rate ie no manpower, no contract, clout, but wies is a joke who cant be trusted.
Hey commander since you got my back can I get some time due on 09 AUG? I want to go out with my family. Oh thats right no time due ever on the weekends well dont worry I will be there giving it my all boss just for you. Can we get another pep talk I loved the last one. Squad can I get an event # for watching the city burn.
Anonymous said...
More scams in patrol. Good thing some idiot came up with back to the streets for the inside people because that really helped in 010 on 3rd watch. 1 Sgt and 2 PO's are now being detailed off the watch to headquarters so they can go work back to the street and come in with some sort of numbers while the back to the street police go out as some call number that is not part of the watch and doesn't have to respond to radio calls. Who knows how many other districts had to detail working PO's to back to the streets from their watch also to pad numbers?
More smoke and mirrors... Meanwhile now they have been denying people time off again in 010 because of this bullshit...and they have been averaging 7/9 cars down a night. Whats up with the lawsuit FOP?
And then the Commnander has the nerve (i'm sure ordered by Supt) to come to roll call and preach how the department has your back, PLEASE!!! DO AGGRESIVE WORK!!!
Well commander if you have our back get all those detailed people back into 010 to man the cars. Maybe crime would go back down. Last time I checked if I wanted to be agressive and do work I get jobs non-stop all night anyways. What that ain't work? That ain't aggressive? Responding to my hour old calls as soon as I get them knocking out paper promptly and returing to service for another one.
You and the other bosses have to be aggressive and find people to work the pre-determined man power needs of the districts. That would be the beat cars/rapids/wagons. ( and not 99) Until those are filled every night you should not even have to be heard from complaining about how aggressive or not we are. You and the rest off the inside people (back to steets clouters) should be filling those beat cars/ rapids/ wagons. Or I forgot you guys are above that kind of aggressive work cause in your eyes that aint aggressive work.
7/22/2008 01:08:00 AM
Don't forget about the watch secretary who downs a car to have someone input contact cards leaving a beat car 99 in the area they just read out of the CO book as an officer safety alert for a hit ordered by a certain gang. You really have our backs boss.
Do you think the Loevy Law Office is handing out free video cameras to westsiders? Go to YouTube and look up:
Chicago Police vs. Derek off 16th.
The city is shot!
"....detailed out of the 016. Never to be seen again." Or my question, how about the waste of space "love birds", Rambo and dwarf whom do nothing except eat, shop and get their freak on in Billy C's love forest? Do they count?
7/18/2008 04:07:00 PM
This is funny stuff. Its gotta be really funny to the people who are assigned to 016 and have to deal with it every day that they are on a car together and doing more to pick up the slack for these two.
7/21/2008 09:38:00 AM
What beat is Rambo and Dwarf?? I haven't seen a beat car in years here..wtf is 016 doing about this???
The Advocate has been around for years and all of the issues are available on the intranet.
The commander in 010 wants names of guys screwed over by the department for doing their jobs. He says whenever he asks nobody gives him a name. So that is just lies he says the department has your back.
Please give him some names.
7/22/2008 09:29:00 AM
Ask him if bt. 1012 PO Danny Ward sounds familar.
Off topic.
I hear all district managers postitions are being elimnated.
Any truth?
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Our district manager is a
"huuuuge stroooooooooke!"
You must be kidding "boss",there are a litany of good coppers that were crucified and we won't casually surrender names to someone who doesn't know or who was never a copper. Some of those guys were viewed very highly by the working police. If you were a working copper you would know...
Anonymous said...
The commander in 010 wants names of guys screwed over by the department for doing their jobs. He says whenever he asks nobody gives him a name. So that is just lies he says the department has your back.
Please give him some names.
7/22/2008 09:29:00 AM
This video is the same kind of shit dude was doing at the Taste to us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLgtNPvQtCE
Being a PPO, I wonder how I could deal with something like this without getting fired?
SHOCKING DISCRACEFUL AND ABOUT THE SADDEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN I can't tell what happened that she felt a need to get out of the car and go after him. If he had the camera so what. I hear him saying "How you doin" Obviously trying to intimidate. She should have realized that and reacted accordingly but to go after him and then retreat that way.... just sad letting this asshole do that. UGGHHH
Did they say no time due for the South Side Parade or the world's largest block party? I can't wait for the city's appeal to the FLSA law suit to end. I would love for every copper in the city to ask for that day off and see the city have to explain to the Federal judge why the marathon race pays for the police but this simple parade draws sooooo many police and the city eats the bill every time?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLgtNPvQtCE
This is a disgrace,this is the "new" CPD. Just wait until the Obama '08 Riots occur,Chicago will burn.
The elected officials know that the riots are coming and are attempting to stem the tide by getting the ISP and the Illinois National Guard up to speed to avert complete anarchy.
I do not believe that it will be contained,they let things go too far upside down on the CPD.
Is Rambo and the Dwarf the goofy looking guy with all the guns and the little chick who left her Sgt husband for him? They been banging in the car for years already if so.
7/22/2008 12:52:00 PM
Great sumnation,you my friend see the truth and are right on the money.
Fat Phil threw more coppers under the bus than JFed ever did. Fat Phil started this trend and the reprecussions of his poor decisions have yet to be felt.
JFed threw Cozzi under the bus but this would never have occurred had Fat Phil left Cozzi's Police Board decision stand.
Holy dip shit commando Batman!!!
Yes...
"The commander in 010 wants names of guys screwed over by the department for doing their jobs. He says whenever he asks nobody gives him a name. So that is just lies he says the department has your back.
Please give him some names."
Tell the commando to read the blog...Cozzi and the that Detective working the Film Detail is a good place to start.
Tell smart ass with political clout and no leadership qualifications to call the Dept Advocate and the Superintendent's Office for more names never mentioned on the blog.
Tell that fool to contact the call back unit and ask around there who's been waiting for years without a resolution to their situation.
Tell numb nuts to call the Academy and ask the former SOS commanding officer how many recruits he fired for bull shit domestics and off duty drinking that resulted in nothing worth mentioning here. While he's still on the phone ask about those candidates who failed the Chicago sit up because of their race?
The commando's ignorance is just another example of an out-of-touch incompetent police manager who is not aware of what is going on in the department.
A real leader wouldn't even ask a stupid question like that unless he's talking to the midnights who have less than three years on the job and just learning how to do real police work.
As your reading this there's a stack of suspension/termination papers sitting on the Supt's desk waiting to be signed.
I know Weiss with his Chemistry degree knows more about management, leadership and communication then that knuckle headed commander who graduated with a criminal justice degree from the "Jerry" Lewis University.
I feel a case of Billikenitis coming on! My feets swole, my tongue is dry and my ass is sore. Anyone got a cure for this?
How many of the "Meritoriously promoted" officers were aggressive? From what I have seen, NONE. They took no risk at all, sitting behind a desk or driving someone around until their turn came. Never saw one in felony court, never seen them at 26th st., yet now they wear stripes and are our supervisors.
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LIAR ! ! !
I know for a fact Deputy Chief WYSINGER was VERY aggressive!!!
He was promoted meritorious sergeant in 1998.
Meritorious Lieutenant in 2002.
Appointed Commander in 2005.
Appointed Deputy Chief in 2008.
He worked his ass off as well as sucked cock of many politicians.
He was really a great guy.
He would talk to you like a gentleman before he stabbed you in the back.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
More scams in patrol. Good thing some idiot came up with back to the streets for the inside people because that really helped in 010 on 3rd watch. 1 Sgt and 2 PO's are now being detailed off the watch to headquarters so they can go work back to the street and come in with some sort of numbers while the back to the street police go out as some call number that is not part of the watch and doesn't have to respond to radio calls. Who knows how many other districts had to detail working PO's to back to the streets from their watch also to pad numbers?
More smoke and mirrors... Meanwhile now they have been denying people time off again in 010 because of this bullshit...and they have been averaging 7/9 cars down a night. Whats up with the lawsuit FOP?
And then the Commnander has the nerve (i'm sure ordered by Supt) to come to roll call and preach how the department has your back, PLEASE!!! DO AGGRESIVE WORK!!!
Well commander if you have our back get all those detailed people back into 010 to man the cars. Maybe crime would go back down. Last time I checked if I wanted to be agressive and do work I get jobs non-stop all night anyways. What that ain't work? That ain't aggressive? Responding to my hour old calls as soon as I get them knocking out paper promptly and returing to service for another one.
You and the other bosses have to be aggressive and find people to work the pre-determined man power needs of the districts. That would be the beat cars/rapids/wagons. ( and not 99) Until those are filled every night you should not even have to be heard from complaining about how aggressive or not we are. You and the rest off the inside people (back to steets clouters) should be filling those beat cars/ rapids/ wagons. Or I forgot you guys are above that kind of aggressive work cause in your eyes that aint aggressive work.
7/22/2008 01:08:00 AM
Don't forget about the watch secretary who downs a car to have someone input contact cards leaving a beat car 99 in the area they just read out of the CO book as an officer safety alert for a hit ordered by a certain gang. You really have our backs boss.
7/22/2008 09:12:00 PM
And I am sure the Commander wants her out there being aggressive while 99. What a joke.
Hey 6:35, that's not an honest mistake. That's called not properly securing evidence, I would have gotten a CR# on your ass. Now, the nice guy LT. who wants to be your friend is gonna get jammed right along with you. By the way, great idea puttin that story up here, if it's true.Lets bring some attention to yourself.
What a joke,the Tribune printed a story about the Chicago Mob making a combined total of $20,000,000 since the 1960's.
Do these people really think we are that stupid? Multiply that by 1000 and that would be conservative. The average tip can pull down 30-40K a day.
Report: Mob made $20 million since '60s
Federal authorities in the landmark Family Secrets mob case estimate the Chicago Outfit has raked in more than $20 million from illicit activities since the 1960s.
In paperwork filed Monday in the sentencing of the first of five defendants, prosecutors are seeking the forfeiture of some of the illicit gains. Anthony "Twan" Doyle, a former Chicago police officer who was convicted of passing information to the mob, is scheduled to be sentenced by U.S. District Judge James Zagel on Oct. 1.
In documents filed Monday, the government estimated the Outfit made $20,258,556, to be precise, chiefly through gambling. Calling the figure "very conservative," authorities said it was compiled from all the witnesses at last summer's trial.
How many guys did Fat Phil raise the suspension time on,make thirty pending,over rule the IAD recommendation and in the Cozzi case reject the Police Board decision???
The tide and direction of the CPD was forever changed for the worst under Fat Boys's Rule of Clout,Corruption and Meritocracy.
7/22/2008 10:02:00 PM
Wow,how out of touch are these guys? Is this DC for real? If so this guy has got to go,he is NOT a cop.
TO: The copper bitching about being 99 while "her" partner inputs contact card info...
Be careful! You've pretty much just identified yourself to us who know. And some of those who may be smart enough to figure it out are crybaby homos ready to report all to the good Lt. Can you say T/S??
phat phil did more to phuck us than any superintendent:
BIS and Personnel Concerns Program
Disbanded SOS and fucked the cops
Lts needed on Seach Warrants
TRRs
Chronies and hacks and scandals to boot.
time for the Clout-Clowns=Merit Promotees to take up the slack. Have the Merit position holders carry extra ticket books, and handle more assignments, after all, they get more money for free, didn't pass the tests for their positions, so, now it's time for all of them to Pay the Piper "Daley" Get out there and get some revenue for the city, Merit Sgts, Lts, etc. start carrying ticket books and use them to pay back your political favors granted, you dumb-asses.
Nohting happened to Clifford if you followed it, Cline played the game. Clifford got a reprimand at the worst(if he even got that.)Cline went out his way to try and help the working copper, maybe too much in some instances
WHY IS IN 002 NOW?
Got my back? Yeah, riiiight.
Squad, can I have an event number for a transfer to Naperville?
"I feel a case of Billikenitis coming on! My feets swole, my tongue is dry and my ass is sore. Anyone got a cure for this?
7/22/2008 10:39:00 PM"
I could help you on the first two, but you're on your own with that last one.
"and if you are not in the right?
7/22/2008 09:56:00 AM"
Then there won't be any 'help' forthcoming, will there?
7/22/2008 11:20:00 PM
thats your way, but since it happened a pretty long time ago, and i'm retiring/forced out shortly guess it slipped thru the cracks.
"Then there won't be any 'help' forthcoming, will there?
7/23/2008 04:56:00 AM"
Not sure...do you know?
It seems no one gets it when referring to bosses! "He's a good guy! He's a jagoff! Majority of them moved up on the job by knowing someone or major asskissing! Police work = 1% maybe!These exempts are or will be getting major pensions and ridiculous sell back checks! Most of them have been at every "incident" putting in OT slips (usually this abuse started when they were tact sgts or Lts earlier in their career claiming to be on every arrest since Lee Harvey Oswald!) 6000+ hours and never missed a family get together, holiday etc. Not to mention all the "honorable mentions, dept commendations, etc. they never were involved in! It a close knit group and 99% of us are never allowed in. I knew I should have moved into the 11th or 19th wards years ago. Someone should do a CPD family tree showing how all of them are "connected!" Even today. Weis didn't touch the "anointed ones!" HDO LAPA etc.
How many of the "Meritoriously promoted" officers were aggressive? From what I have seen, NONE. They took no risk at all, sitting behind a desk or driving someone around until their turn came. Never saw one in felony court, never seen them at 26th st., yet now they wear stripes and are our supervisors.
---------------
LIAR ! ! !
I know for a fact Deputy Chief WYSINGER was VERY aggressive!!!
He was promoted meritorious sergeant in 1998.
Meritorious Lieutenant in 2002.
Appointed Commander in 2005.
Appointed Deputy Chief in 2008.
He worked his ass off as well as sucked cock of many politicians.
He was really a great guy.
He would talk to you like a gentleman before he stabbed you in the back.
7/22/2008 10:44:00 PM
Deputy Chief Keating didn't work aggressively and is at the top. Kissing ass works well. Society should start teaching this technique in grammar school that way everyone can be on the same playing field. I've never had kiss ass training. Now I'm lacking those skills and have to be a blue shirt aggressive copper. Hoping that someone recognizes my talents. Unlikely......
Can you say 30 years of Affirmative Action, and promoting unqualified people because of their nationally or gender. These are the people who have your back,it has finally cause the Deptment to crumble. Anybody have any armour plating I can borrow.
hey Grand Crossing gunslinger;nobody wants to hear from you Combs!EVERYBODY knows u are an idiot!!!!
7/23/2008 12:35:00 AM said:
phat phil did more to phuck us than any superintendent:
BIS and Personnel Concerns Program
Disbanded SOS and fucked the cops
Lts needed on Seach Warrants
TRRs
Chronies and hacks and scandals to boot.
Hey nitwit, BIS and personel concerns has been around for as long as I have been on. Phil may have enforced it more than his predecessors but he didn't invent it.
SOS was disbanded by Dana after Phil took his retirement.
Lt. on search warrants I will give you, but when is the last time you did a search warrant?
As far as chronies and hacks? Every top level copper on this job since it's inception in 1865 has put his or her people in. It is the Chicago way and it is contagious. Jody has taken care of all his old time feeb buddies and put them in place and even created spots for them.
So do us all a favor, hair gel asshat, check your facts before you open your mouth and get dippity doo in it.
phat phil did more to phuck us than any superintendent:
BIS and Personnel Concerns Program
Disbanded SOS and fucked the cops
Lts needed on Seach Warrants
TRRs
Chronies and hacks and scandals to boot.
7/23/2008 12:35:00 AM
Holy shit, youre 110% RIGHT, Let us not forget Supt Cline was also responsible for the holocust, locusts, the fucking plague, eating pizza so hot it burns the roof of your mouth, rain on nice days, sub-zero weather....
"BIS and Personnel Concerns Program"
UUUMMMM, Can you say "HILLARD"?
"Disbanded SOS and fucked the cops"
This decision was made from outside the Dept (ie. City Hall), Cline, Im willing to bet, was not even in this state at the time SOS was disbanded. Guess what, HE WAS NOT THE SUPT. AT THAT TIME! Starks was, he got the order from City Hall, handed it to Chizewski(sp?) and Risley, and told those two goofs to "handle this any way you want, dont touch Marine, Mounted, K-9, or SWAT"
"Lts needed on Seach Warrants"
Because a handfull of blueshirts were fucking it up for the rest of us!
TRR's-
Ok, you got me on this one!
"Chronies and hacks and scandals to boot."
Read your history books; Greeks, Romans, all the way on up till now! This is still Chicago, and "THATS the Chicago way" (to quote a movie). Aint never gonna change!
Hillard tossed more cops under the bus in the last few years in his office than Cline ever did! Dont get me wrong, Cline was no where close to perfect, he did promote some real inept people, and some fucked up shit went on under his reign, but when you start pointing the finger, at least point it at the right people, at the right time!
I GOT YO BACK "BOO"!
A Supe who wears a white shirt but bleeds blue and
will always be a patrolman thru and thru.
I'm a blue shirt for many years. Thank you, You made my day.
Nohting happened to Clifford if you followed it, Cline played the game. Clifford got a reprimand at the worst(if he even got that.)Cline went out his way to try and help the working copper, maybe too much in some instances
WHY IS IN 002 NOW?
Because he bid there to get out of 005, you blame him?
Anonymous said...
All you jerk offs on here who cry about the scum of society who sponge off our tax dollars and how we have to protect them all have this sick sense of entitlement. You either knew what you were getting into when came on this job, or you are incredibly stupid. I understand that the brass is shoving it up a lot of asses to protect their own asses, but what do you expect when you work a government job. I'll say what you all say to the people who don't like the laws of our country. If you don't like it, leave. Get a new job. Go to college and become another Gordon fucking Gecko and when you lose your shirt you will realize how good you had it.
I am all for our union when they work for the good of all of us, not the good of the union reps. I also know that there are plenty of times coppers have been screwed for doing their job. But don't act like this is all Wies and the people he put in charge. If there was internet access in the late 70s and early 80s, this same shit would have been spewed back then. This shit has been going on forever.
7/22/2008 07:
aFTER YOU ARE DOWNING CLEANING DALEY's SHIT BOWL.. MAYBE YOU WIPE THE ASS OFF YOUR FACE !!!
had a dope arrest, was in the processing room, The processing room is small, one table, the prisoner is on a bench a few feet away. a disturbance was outside the door, I stepped to the door to ensure the police were ok, as i stepped away my prisoner grabbed the dope from the table, yes he was handcuffed, and swallowed it. we took the prisoner to the hospital to try and get the dope out but he refused treatment. went to the 3rd watch w/c, told him, the paperwork was done. he had us put it in the report, and said he didn't see anywrong doing only bad judgement so there was no need for cr#. here is a guy who used his judgement and obviously his balls and looked out for us. the easy way out would of been to get the cr# and let us deal with it, but he stepped up, and this from a new lt whom i had never met and actually from a different watch. This is the kind of boss we need when we make an honest mistake.
You were very lucky. Prisoners are never to be left alone. That
boss took a hell of a chance on you. I wouldn't have posted it here, I would have learned from it, though. Oh, and by the way,
drugs & evidence are never left
within reach of arrestees either.
All I know"is get rid of those coppers who where on the bis program.like cooter.he was on the bis and was on the list of 662 and he was in sos.its coppers like him that gave us a bad name.he was number 15 in the city in crs.get him jfed
If my partner and I on-view a goblin shooting a group of ghouls with a fully automatic weapon and attempt to flee on foot, would I be reasonable .....
Goblin..that is fucking hilarious!!! Had me laughing for 5 minutes
The days of real bosses are long gone. Fat Phil politicized the CPD beyond recognition and tossed aside some of the best talent we had to appease all of his cronies.
The real question is why did Mayor Richard M. Daley permit this?
7/22/2008 01:24:00 AM
Hillard started it by making individuals with less than 15 yeras experince bosses.
A great boss will have your back.
J-Fed will have your ass.
Jody & The Exempts said...
"We have your back so we can stick it in your ass sideways, now get out there and do some aggressive police work, ya bunch of whiners! The clock is ticking and we gotta fire and imprison a couple hundred blue shirts before the year is over."
After reading all thess posts and going to roll call and listening to the commanders pep talks. And sweeing our contract progress. I / We know where we stand with the city.
Game on!
Hey 07/22 3:47 AM,
"We don't need your help if we are in the wrong?" I hope you don't get help if you are "in the wrong", goof!
If your intentions are "in the right" you may need help! But if you are "in the wrong", no pity from me!
If the city had our backs it would idemnify us for punitive damages like it did until the State passed the Illinois Tort reform Act effective June 1986. We have not been covered since. The City can exercise Home Rule and choose to indemnify us. Eugene Sawyer offered this to us in our contract which FOP turned down without a membership vote. They waited for a better deal from Daley. We got the exact same contract from Daley, minus indenification for punitive damages.
The more successful that you are in your personal life, the more at risk you are. Punitive damages are are determined, in part, by what you have. Now you stand to lose everything at the hands of a jury that does not like you because you are the police.
Hey Jody, lobby for this change, you might just see an increase in effort.
Anonymous said...
Can you say 30 years of Affirmative Action, and promoting unqualified people because of their nationally or gender. These are the people who have your back,it has finally cause the Deptment to crumble. Anybody have any armour plating I can borrow.
7/23/2008 11:02:00 AM
No,but I have a spelling book for you.
Do the thugs and bangers play by the rule??? Hell no. They fight, they throw shit at you, they run, they lie. They don't stop their felonies acts when we approach them or demand that they stop, they actually turn it up a notch or two.....so tell me sir Jfed, what is reasonable???????? They break the "rules", i.e. laws all the time, we have to do what is necessary to stop it, even though it is not in black and white in the GO's. That's the difference between the real police and the wanna-be who doesn't have a clue police.
This is what you get when you vote democRAT.
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